re: #500 Hhar

Ken Miller is a fine man, but why rely on anyone to tell you what someone else is thinking? Especially when everyone has their self interest at heart?

Note that both Ken Miller AND Behe are both religious Catholics: do you not think it possible that each thinks the other is trying to define the relationship of science to their Church? I am not saying that thery are of equal intellectual probity and authority: I am saying that there are personal issues at stake, and the judgement of one on the person of the other should not be acceoted at face value, especially when it is irrelevant to the point: ID IS crap. You can show that empirically.

Which is precisely the point. Miller can empirically demonstrate his contentions; Behe cannot. And Behe knows this, or should. So what is Behe trying to do, and why? All he can do; attempt to muddy waters, in a failed and futile endeavor to obscure the facts of the matter, because it pays him to do so.