re: #46 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yeah, guys like you and my friend on SWAT. Though obviously, he and you have very, very different ideas. He would really, really disagree with your assertion that home self-defense isn’t that hard.

I really don’t get why you think that showing that you can use a gun in an environment that tests the environment you’d use the gun in is a ridiculously high standard. It would seem to be more the exactly appropriate standard.

I’d love to have him in the chat and first, set some “givens”. By easy I don’t mean easy like folding a paper airplane or stand and deliver shooting. I meant easy compared to rolling up on a gunfight in progress or coming under fire first. You pull a car over and the guy bails out shooting at you and approaching your car fast. Shooting on the advance. Having all that gear on slowing you down. Complicated use of force policies.

Easy compared to the streets.

But my premise in the spirit of exploring your concept is finding that minimum starting standard for that guy at home.

Does your friend agree that a sleeping/wake up test to a certain accuracy and speed standard should be imposed on police that take the gun home and would use it if attacked? Would he correspond so i could communicate with him on this at all?

Oh almost forgot-easy with a gun compared to trying it with a different weapon or none at all. That accommodates the less than athletic in a fight. This frame of comparison is very different than “easy” like easy as pie.

Or would he contribute any outline of a minimum standard test to pass for civilians to take a gun home for protection?