I am coming in late to another conversation. But i am a Democrat who is very pro Israel. I hate saying i am pro Israel because there is no other nation i have to say that about. Even when apartheid South Africa-a truly evil institution-was at its worst, i never heard any one ponder South Africa’s right to exist, they just wanted apartheid over. I am not Jewish, but i too have been disappointed with liberals on this. One thing that gives me hope is that given the opportunity to explain to liberal friends the situation they start to understand. Even i probably wouldn’t have understood had i not been very close to someone for some time who was a liberal Jew who was pro Israel. That being said, i do not trust the intentions or longevity of the Religious rights pro Jewish stance. I know several too well and i know how pro-Israel they are when you are discussing needing the Jews for the return of Christ yet a very different side comes out when discussing the Jewish people under different terms. In other words, they don’t much care for Jewish people as individuals-and how they seem to destroy conservative protestant societies-but their bible tells them the Jews are needed. I also would like to add that i have read Jewish comments before where they state that they know that the religious right is just using them to fulfill a prophesy but that they are willing to take that because they need all the friends they can get in Israel. That makes me sad to read because no one should feel they need to take friends they can’t trust. The international community has let Israel down in that sense. Israel has always been everyones whipping boy. Israel has done everything all the super powers have told them to over the years. They have probably even done things that they didn’t want to do, or they knew might put them in danger but America or England told them to. “OK boss” And now everyone turns around and acts like they don’t know what time it is.