re: #60 Mich-again

Really? How do you theorize they might have survived if the bomb detonated as intended?

The point I was making was that the shoe bomber also had PETN and tried to ignite it. I do think the passengers played a role. As far as what Obama said about them being “far more resilient than an isolated extremist”, yes I totally agree that this was stupid. But to say that the credit goes to incompetent bomb making is just not the total story here.