re: #56 Killgore Trout

I more or less agree with that. At the risk of dragging the Iraq war debate onto the new thread: Al Gore slammed Bush during the campaign for being too timid on Iraq. Obama also kept indefinite detention and the patriot act. As much as we all run around pretending our side is different from the other, the differences are actually fairly minor.

One of my constant refrains when Bush was expanding Executive power was that whoever gets in after him is not going to give it up, willingly or easily. The Bush administration set up some really shitty precedents in this area.

That said, I’m trying to think of an Obama example. The closest I can come to is maybe the whole “assassinate citizens who are terror suspects” that Holder tried to justify last month. May not be the best example.