re: #660 shmuli

#643 Sharmuta

Yeah? What church of Deism did they go to? They were practicing Christians who belonged to Anglican and (a few) Catholic churches. They knew the liturgy and their Bibles, as you can find quotes from Scripture throughout their writing. You just want to call some of them Deists because that is how you interpret some of their writings, oh, some 220 years later.

Ludicrous. Just because they said some Deistic things does not make them Deists. You take these people at their word, which was that they were believing Christians, not impose your own beliefs on those upon whose shoulders you stand. Besides, even if a FEW of them met YOUR definition of Deism, they did not parade about in such a manner and the REST of them (hey, 13 colonies and many different state charters, most of them religiously based, remember?) were clearly believing Christians. You can tell this by the Churches they built, their gravestones, their protestations, their friends and their lives. Their communities and existence were not what you want them to be, but what they were, which was, in the VAST majority, believing Christians.

Sorry if the facts bother you. Nice try yourself.

Why does it matter that the founding fathers may or may not have been practicing Christians. The foundation they chose to build our nation upon was one that was explicitly secular. Having fled England and the persecution of the Anglican church, they sought above almost all other goals to ensure freedom from religious tyranny. And yet here you are today advocating for theocracy simply because they were Christians?