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Some thoughts on 'sex by surprise'

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Mad Prophet Ludwig12/07/2010 7:23:52 pm PST

re: #63 sizzleRI

The one clear advantage that women have always had over men is that many women can easily get most men to jump through all sorts of hoops with even just a hint of a promise of sexuality. Most women have figured this out. Most (if not all) straight women have exploited this basic aspect of human hardwiring to a greater or lesser extent in their own relationships. Many exploit it so casually that they do not even notice.

Yeah…flirting is part of human nature, we all do it. Doesn’t make us all manipulative bitches. And I’d give up that one “clear” advantage if it meant I could hang out with a guy, after making it extremely clear I am not interested (Hi, my name is Sizzle, did I mention my girlfriend?, or before that just not flirting, never letting a guy pay) and inevitably having the guy say sure sure, and then spring a move. I’m not ridiculously hot, just ordinary. It fucking sucks. The whole time you’re thinking “hey, this is cool we’re having a fun time, he seems to respect what I’m saying” and then its sinks in as the hand comes over (not for the first time, after pushing it off previously) “oh, he just thinks I’m a vagina. Great.”

Not most guys, thank god. But more than once. And I would guarantee most women would tell you the same.

So fuck that advantage, I don’t want it.

I hear that.

How about this. You are giving the other side of the coin of what I wrote.

You are taking the standpoint of someone who does not play games and simply wants the basic respect I think everyone should have without unnecessary drama.

So where does most of this drama come from?

Partially, it comes from the fact that men are stupid enough to believe a flirt is more than a flirt, or are easily swayed by it. Partially, it comes from women who exploit this fact.

Now here is the place where I hope we can bridge our views and see we are talking about similar things.

You say:

It fucking sucks. The whole time you’re thinking “hey, this is cool we’re having a fun time, he seems to respect what I’m saying” and then its sinks in as the hand comes over (not for the first time, after pushing it off previously) “oh, he just thinks I’m a vagina. Great.”

When it comes to intellectual or political things, I am just thinking wouldn’t be nice to talk about the issues. And then it sinks in as I notice the heaving breasts of the Fox broadcaster, (not for the first time, after being repulsed before by the mixture of sex and evil propaganda) that they think I am just incapable of controlling my penis enough to think.

The fact that many are that f’n dumb just makes it worse.

The fact that the Fox news woman is there precisely because of her sexual projection, doesn’t help any more either.

Doubt that last is true, then why isn’t everything that is said by the like of Beck said by a Chippendale?

Then I look at the whole thing and realize the way this is a doubly predatory cycle that sets women back ages and it pisses me off.

But I will be honest. What pisses me off the most is that I like women and I love sex, and seeing hot blondes say things that are utterly evil while dressed provocatively just insults me. It takes something I should like seeing, and channels everything positive about that, into disgust at the evil being said and the fact that people are trying to make evil sexy.