Shecky, can you actually answer anything in my #52, or do you just want to repeat your slogans over and over?

Repeating the fact that the ATF’s scheme resulted in violence is not a slogan. It’s what happened.

This implies that there would have been no murders had those specific guns not been available. That conclusion is implicit in your statement.

Nope. It’s possible that the killings might have happened anyway. But we can’t know for sure. What we can know is that the ATF’s actions did result in violence.