re: #70 tshinkle

If we can agree that AGW is three things:
1. The world is warming
2. The warming is predominantly manmade
3. The warming is catastrophic

And if we agree the solution is to damage the economy of the country that has been the greatest force for good in world history.

Then i would want empirical evidence that the world is actually warming (including taking into account for the urban effect). It’s out there. All you have to do is look for it. I would want empirical evidence that oceans are actually rising. That effect is pretty modest so far. I would want empirical evidence that arctic ice is continuing to disappear It is.

My understanding is the world hasn’t warmed in a decade, oceans have receded in the past two years, and arctic ice has grown my more than 200,000 square miles since 2007. There wasn’t on computer model that predicted any of the three. All false.

The amount of bad that happens in the world has an inverse relationship to the strength of the US, Got a cite for that assertion? so I would want us to be extremely careful to make sure the science is truly settled before dramatic changes are made. It is.

I’ll ask you the same. What would it take to convince you that AGW may be the same as past hysterical reactions such as the Population Bomb, the coming Ice Age, the impending Heterosexual Aids epidemic, the disappearing ozone layer, etc…you might understand why I’m a little skeptical.

Friend, if you are getting you science from the NY Post, you may very well believe this stuff. You owe it to yourself to check out something authoritative. Try, as a start, realclimate.org. The science there is a little heavy, but for a smart guy like you…