re: #66 uncah91

Long time lurker, infrequent commenter.

I think all of the “tut-tutters” are off their rockers, but I think there are two “babies” in that bathwater.

“They did it so no one gets to complain when we do it” is never a good defense. Nor is “They did X so don’t complain when we do Y”. In addition, rage spirals are arguably what has given us the extremely unhealthy environment on the conservative side of the equation. And it is also the thing that drives the Susan Sarandons of the world. Being able to step back and think pragmatically is usually worthwhile (although not always).

Second, it’s pretty damn clear that the Trump admin is courting this shit. They WANT it to happen. Yeah, they can miscalculate, but it’s worth considering whether giving them what they want is the right call.

You have a point, actually two, BUT:

1. What is happening with the child separation/Red Hen matter is: They did X so we complain about X.

2. Yes, Trump loves to be hated. He does seem to be calling for an all-out (mostly political) war with his opponents (for instance, me, Babe, to quote Van the Man). He has given us no choice: Bring. It. On.

Trump’s popularity numbers are fairly stable but his negatives are going through through roof. Last I heard, 42% favored impeachment. That’s huge. We should not back down and we do not need to. He picked this fight and to save our own souls we need to win it.