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Changelog: On Torture

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Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)11/04/2010 7:17:36 pm PDT

re: #765 researchok

You need to visit Auschwitz. It was a killing FACTORY- far more efficient than killings in the fields. Read Davidovic.

I have visited Auschwitz. WWII is a passion of mine. I am Jewish. Stop lecturing me.

It was not more effiicent than killing in the fields. Coming across a Jew and shooting them then and there— that was the most efficient want to kill them. Not the camps. The camps were the obscenity. They were not an efficiency.


I will say this: A couple of years after we were in Afghanistan, we had intel that all the big Al Qaeda mucky mucks would be in attendance at a funeral of a ‘colleague’.

We knew when and where they would be. A decision was made not to take out the entire Al Qaeda leadership because some of their families would be in attendance.

Do you approve of that decision.

You keep deflecting. Over and over. You keep demanding I answer random questions that have nothing to do with the very, very simple fact:

Your support for torture has no basis in logic. You have no reason, at any point, to trust that what a terrorist says due to torture is the truth, or what they communicate to someone else due to torture will not involve a trap or a lie. You might torture a terrorist to find out where a bomb was and have your agents sent right to a trap. You might torture a terrorist to stop an attack and have them communicate that they were being tortured to their aides. You might bomb the camps and use up resources that should be used on the Romanian oil fields, so that the Nazis are able to fight on and delay longer and the death tolls rise higher.

You do not consider any part of the narrative except your desired outcome. And you pretend that is a reason.

Saying “But I need to do something” is not a reason. It is a cry of the heart. It does not mean it is wise, reasonable, good, or moral.