re: #79 Petero1818

Rarely have countries made peace in midst of war that was undecided.

This is just totally untrue. I can give you hundreds of examples of countries that made peace in the midst of war that was undecided.

Once one admits defeat, the path to peace becomes more clear.

What the hell are you basing this on? In ye bad old days, prior to the UN, when you invaded a place you just took it the fuck over. There wasn’t any ‘peace’ to be talked about because you just grabbed it. You might later then give it back by treaty to somewhere or another, or it might get inherited by succession to somewhere else. Otherwise, you just fought until the point where one side said “I give” and they arranged tribute or whatever, but that wasn’t after fighting to exhaustion.

There aren’t any Palestinians, I don’t think, who think they on their own can militarily defeat Israel. No serious person with an ounce of military knowledge could think that. They might think that a coalition of Arab states and themselves could defeat Israel, and they might be isolated enough to believe this was a real possibility without touching off a huge conflict, if not WWIII.

People keep talking about this as Israel vs. Palestine. It’s not, either in the mind of Palestinians or in the mind of the rest of the Middle Eastern Muslim world. There are many ways the Arab states are working to prolong the conflict, and they are obviously a key part of resolving it.