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U.S. Designates Israel as Country That Tends 'To Promote, Produce, or Protect' Terrorists

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Buck6/30/2011 12:41:57 pm PDT

You paraphrase and exaggerate what I said.

If you get an international driver’s license, you can rent a car and drive in the US as a foreigner.

Not at all relevant to the discussion.


An immigrant can obtain a driver’s license in the US and then overstay their visa. Overstays of visa are one of the most common ways for someone to be an illegal immigrant.

I don’t think the second part is true, and the first part is not relevant.

No. You lied in how you described it.

No I did not lie. You interpret it differently. You think of Hamas as simply a terrorist group. They are that and much more. There are members of Hamas that are social workers, and teachers. Like the former Soviet Union, membership has it’s privileges. There are others who call Gaza Hamasistan…. You don’t feel that way. Fine. But not a lie.


1. This policy treats Israel the same as Hamas, and Israelis the same as members of Hamas.


I explain that above. Yes, I think Gaza = Hamas. You don’t.


2. An Israeli citizen who was arrested for a crime would be subject to this policy.

I state that Israel is on this list, AND that would make Israelis subject to this policy.

3. The Arizona documentation law applied only to those who had committed a crime.

I stated that “persons must have committed a crime before they can be rightfully detained by police officers.” All of those words in place, yes I stand by that. It is not a lie. A lawful STOP, DETENTION OR ARREST made by a law enforcement official IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY OTHER LAW does not include stopping people on the street and just demanding their papers.

You said, “The law requires police officers, “when practicable,” to detain people they reasonably suspect are in the country without authorization and to verify their status with federal officials”. In fact a lawful STOP, DETENTION OR ARREST MUST be made by a law enforcement official IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY OTHER LAW first.