re: #857 Jimmah

No. The fact, not the argument, is that variations in output do not match the recent trends in either Earth or Mars climate. The observed changes in Mars climate are explained here.

[Link: www.realclimate.org…]

Ugh. Don’t promote that site. They censor posts and do not let anyone including scientists they bash post to question their “explanations” and if they do let one through, they edit it, make comments in it, and then not allow that person to reply again.

Dr. Michael Mann’s profile, look at his “in the press” web page where he links to NPR and The Daily Kos.

BTW 50 yrs of data (from “The space age”) is pretty much ZERO data for “real” scientists to say something “un-natural” is going on about a planet. People who buy into this nonsense have no concept of time and how vast the geological record is for this planet including climate scientists. Climatology, as a branch of Science isn’t even that old and its origin is in statistics. If it were not for geology, climatologists would not even know the climate on Earth could change at all, yet any thing we know from geology is passed over in every debate by believers in AGW. You just think about that.