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Reports: NYC Cops Rode With Bikers Who Beat SUV Driver

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Stoatly10/07/2013 12:04:18 pm PDT

re: #8 GOPHostage#25698724

65,000 times a year firearm defense works out just fine.

So thatā€™s why the US has such a low murder rate compared to less armed societies? Oh wait,
Maybe adding more guns means more gun related outcomes - some good, some bad but overall not positive

re: #8 GOPHostage#25698724

Why would the gun have to come out in an instant?

To be useful it has to be assessable near enough instantly in an unforeseen situation - yet secured well enough to prevent theft/accidental discharge/child play discharge.
Thatā€™s actually really difficult, in the home it may well be possible (and should be required - gun nuts love to point to Swiss gun ownership without acknowledging the requirements on secure storage)
But as the Washington Navy Yard shooting showed, even the military has issues keeping weapons close enough to hand but simultaneously out of harmā€™s way.

re: #8 GOPHostage#25698724

Lets not call reality fiction.

Letā€™s not call fiction reality - guns are not fucking magic

re: #8 GOPHostage#25698724

If it were all like the movies our cops could be unarmed like the bobbies in Britain. Not realistic at all.

Iā€™m a Brit - the ā€œbobbiesā€ do not all ride bicycles two-by-two
I think the restrictions on guns imposed after the Hungerford massacre here went too far - typical politicianā€™s knee-jerk populist move - but in truth itā€™s had no effect on me and my liberties, though a gun-nut friend had to give up his hand-guns
(Actually remembering how we used to run around with a .303 as kids that we ā€œborrowedā€ occasionally, maybe the tightening of rules on gun lockers isnā€™t such a bad idea after all)

I grew up in a rural area around guns, and enjoy shooting - but even if I owned one now the idea of carrying it around everywhere would be a pain - Iā€™ve got enough crap to cart aboutā€¦ā€¦.

ā€¦.anyway Iā€™ll stop now because one thing Iā€™ve learned is that arguing about gun control is a mugā€™s game on US sites - either way - itā€™s a little too ā€œTruthyā€ of an issue (hope this doesnā€™t come over as patronising) my #7 post wasnā€™t serious for that reason

BTW it now seems that several off-duty officers (5-8!) may have be involved in some way with this incident, so even more WTF