re: #8 team_fukit

Messianics are mostly all Christians from an evangelistic background, with a sprinkling of actual Juice they have entrapped and wave around as trophies.

Reform consists primarily of actual Juice and they have a long history within Judaism.

Messianics will NEVER be accepted as a movement within Judaism, their roots are totally outside of Jews and Judaism except, as noted, for the few converts that they use as beards.