re: #83 Bagua

I don’t think the pro or anti is even relevant. Beliefs and opinions are secondary to cold science which is based upon data and accuracy. The relevant question is quite clear, is the information that has emanated from the CRU Hockey Team valid? Can it be verified? If not, it is not even wrong, it is useless.

It is too early to have a firm opinion either way, but if appearances prove accurate then it appears that the CRU Hockey Team are wearing Green Helmets.

I don’t understand your sports references. But you are right in general about cold science, and in reference to what I am looking at, hard data. If I understand how they compiled the hadcrut3 dataset, then their method of collecting that data is bogus.

For any given grid on the planet, you can have had multiple locations with in that grid supplying temperature data to that grid since 1850, month after month, and CRU cannot tell anyone (or refuse to tell anyone) the actual physical location of each one of those temperature readings in that grid since 1850. There are also months where there is no temperature data for that grid. And on top of all that, for any given grid, CRU claims that the source of the data could have come from three agencies, and then, there is a total of 2 percent over all data reading totally missing from the dataset.

That is not a valid dataset to begin with. It doesn’t amtter what programs they have developed to query the data, it doesn’t matter what results they THINK they have gotten from that dataset. It appear to me that the raw dataset itself is flawed to begin with.

Like I say, I am going through the dataset and all the information available about it creation, history, caveats etc. There’s a good amount of study to be done here, but fist look, doesn’t look good.