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Moonbat Endorses Kerry

Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:39:44 pm PST

THIS JUST IN!

Malaysian moonbat Mahathir Mohamad endorses John Effin’ Kerry!

And he throws in an antisemitic remark to seal the deal!

PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia - Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad endorsed Democratic contender John Kerry in the U.S. presidential race Thursday, saying he would keep the world safer than President Bush.

“I think Kerry would be much more willing to listen to the voices of people and of the rest of the world,” Mahathir, who retired in October after 22 years in power, told The Associated Press in an interview.

“But in the U.S., the Jewish lobby is very strong, and any American who wants to become president cannot change the policy toward Palestine radically,” he said.

Mahathir, who was one of the most outspoken leaders in the Islamic world, also said the March 11 train bombings in Spain demonstrated that the Iraqi war has aggravated international terrorism and raised hostility toward Washington and its allies.

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1 andrew  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:41:32am

Hee hee - that's almost too perfect.

2 Ronnie  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:42:00am

They deserve each other

3 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:42:08am

OT:

Puttin' the smackdown on al-Arabiya.

4 marek  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:42:31am

I guess ayatollahs are not far behind. And who knows, maybe Assad will pledge too. Godd luck Kerry!

5 Laxmi  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:42:39am

Birds of a Feather?

6 split lip  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:42:53am

Can anyone remember an earlier presidential race where a candidate used the endorsement of foreign leaders as a reason to vote for him? I can't. I'm 28, so haven't been paying attention for long, but it is amazing that J F'n K tells the American voters to vote for him because ... foreign leaders want him to be President. Can any of you recall a presidential candidate who adopted a similar strategy?

That is all.

7 DocJeff (aka Bob abu E.)  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:42:53am

Time to make my "Antisemites for Kerry" t-shirt!

8 Laurence of the Rats  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:43:39am

Bush needs to run this endorsement as one of his ads.

9 Avi W  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:44:29am

Kerry could become the first US president with Jewish roots -- [Link: www.nypress.com...]

10 dartkick  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:45:05am

Well, one election comes to mind, although in that one, the candidate didnt come out and say that foreigners wanted him elected, he jsut took their money insead. Anyone remember the Clinton-Gore china connection?

11 dgd  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:45:21am

I guess that's one of the foreign leaders JF***K was talking about. My guess is Arafat will be next followed by what'is name in Syria. A man is known by the company he keeps.

12 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:45:56am

When does Mahathir die?

13 m  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:46:11am

With friends like Kerry's, who needs a 'right-wing smear machine'?

14 Yehudit  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:46:28am

Just FYI - Tomorrow is the one year anniversary of the beginning of the war.

Also don't forget to vote in the latest internet poll: Should Spain withdraw its troops from Iraq? (Right margin of page.) Every vote counts.

15 Lickmuffin  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:46:51am

So... is there a tally anywhere of which leaders are endorsing Kerry?

If there isn't one, there should be. Would be nice as a link in somewhere at LFG, for handy reference when you need to pummel an asshat.

Just a thought!

16 BIG  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:47:42am

You see. Kery wasn't lying. He does have the support of world leaders.

Chirac, Schroder, Arafat, Assad, Mubarak; the list goes on and on.

/sarcasm (Is this tag really necessary?)

17 Ronnie  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:48:01am

#3 RoP really chappin' my hide

"Puttin' the smackdown on al-Arabiya"

WOW! That's great, TWO pieces of good news. Think they were going to film the next blast?

18 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:48:09am

Avi W (#9)

John Kerry was a card-carrying Brahmin just a few months ago, and now the whole country seems to be shepping nachas over his refound ancestry.

Not quite.

19 Montaigne's Cat  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:48:15am

If the Iraq war escalated international tensions, then why was Al-Qaeda operating in Spain before the Iraq war??

20 Mississauga Matt  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:48:20am

With friends like those...

Actually, Kerry has been going around shooting his mouth off about all the foreign leaders who want him to win. He's been under a lot of pressure to provide names, and now he can do so, with a name any left-leaning goofball would be proud of!

21 Lickmuffin  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:49:34am

#14:

About that poll -- if you want to... ummm... place a vote for each member in your household or something, you will need to clear your cookies after each vote. With cookies in place, after you vote you get the vote results on the page when you next visit it.

22 Rang1995  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:49:55am

can't fight the tape..those endorsements keep rolling in

:)

23 Unmutual  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:49:57am

Nice to know that a pundit in Malasyia, halfway across the world, is concerned with the fate of Israel as his primary political issue.

That's like a governor in Oregon being concerned with the fate of elections in Peru.

Meaningless, right? Wrong. It's the usual Islamic diatribe against worldwide Jewry and yet another prime example of the return of a worldwide "master race" menatility.

Only this time, it's the Islamic "race" instead of the Aryans.

24 Alfred E. Neuman  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:50:28am

Why do these foreign leaders think that Americans give a rat's ass who they endorse? It also amazes me when a foreign media source, such as the BBC, promotes a candidate for an American election. They seem to think they are vastly more important and influential than they actually are.

25 rebTEX  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:50:38am

I like it!!!
It just lets you know which pod this kerry pea fits into.
We only need a few more morons to endorse him and it'll be a BUSH LANDSLIDE!

27 Y  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:50:54am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't around 70% of American-Jews usually go with the democrats, making Mahatir a complete retard (which we knew anyway). What a disgusting Islami-nazi, Kerry must be so embarassed to receive support from such a scum bag.

28 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:51:32am

#10 Darktick

Anyone remember the Clinton-Gore china connection?

Funny you mentioned that, I was just looking at some books on Amazon:

Year of the Rat

29 FreakyBoy  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:52:10am

Bush is getting some stellar endorsements as well:

The statement tells American voters that Abu Hafs al-Masri supports the re-election campaign of President Bush: "We are very keen that Bush does not lose the upcoming elections."

The statement said Abu Hafs al-Masri needs what it called Bush's "idiocy and religious fanaticism" because they would "wake up" the Islamic world.

Parts of the statement were released Wednesday night by the editor of another London-based Arabic newspaper, Al Hayat. The editor read parts of the statement to The Associated Press in Cairo.

Link

30 Dave the.....  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:52:21am

#6....

Let's see. Perhaps if we look at newspapers from 1940 we'll see the joint news conference. Hitler, Goebbels , and Beneto M. announcing their support for Wendel Wilkie, the peace candidate.

I was doing research recently for a histoical society. Part of it involved reading newspapers from September 1939. It's amazing how naive people were then, just as now. There were large rallies against US involvement in the war. There were even calls for cancelling Armistice days parades because the peace activists didn't want people to get exposed to anything related to the military. Meanwhile Hitler was on his way to preparing the Final Solution.

31 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:52:39am

17 Ronnie

I'm just waiting for the press release showing some Fedayeen getting caught along with their AFP propaganda team. Would love to see some of these "press" teams with hoods over their heads.

32 AddictedLizardoid  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:52:39am

This ALSO just in:

Pakistanis May Be Near al-Qaida's No. 2

Apparently the US is sending in choppers because the goons are better armed and trained than expected.

Go get 'em, guys.

33 SoCalJustice  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:53:21am

Someone should write an op-ed piece about the shadowy, all powerful, Islamic cabal that runs Malaysia...

34 Lucile  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:54:10am

"Kerry will be...much more willing".... to appease.

p.s. Check out jihad watch to see what our "peaceful" muslim brethren are up to in Kosovo. Such honest, straightforward people.

35 Y  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:54:49am

Pakistan's got someone very important in Al Qaede boxed in. They say is Zawarhi, the Egyptian no 2, and the brains of the organisation. This could be big. Very, very big, Inshalla!

36 rebTEX  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:55:00am

BTW...I found a "blow off steam" site that lets you help GW fight off terrorists. Relaxing and fun.
[Link: www.miniclip.com...]
go to bush shooting2
I think you will be amused!

37 debriefed  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:56:19am

truly amazing!

are any other lgfers worried that kerry is going to have a premature election-ejection and the dems might actually have time to come up with a more palatable candidate? i'm scared, this is too soon. the polls are modulating also. kerry bashing is sort of becoming too easy for me to enjoy it. it's unsportsmanlike.

who could an alternative be? any thoughts?

i don't think kerry can fix this with a miracle choice for vp-- i imagine he's already asked colin powell.

Bless the Blogosphere. May It Ever Increase.

38 Idi Amin  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:56:37am

I, Idi Amin Dada Oumee, endorse John Forbes Kerry for the Office of President of the Unites States. He will make the world a safer place for my four wives and 45 children.

39 Bonnie  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:57:02am

#6 split lip

As if I needed one more reason not to vote for Kerry. This will be the first time in my life I will be voting Republican -- the Democratic party has left me behind, and I can no longer pretend I agree with the direction its going.

The fact that "foreign leaders" want Kerry elected is, to me, scary. The last thing we need is foreign governments telling us who to vote for. It's like they're saying "this guy is going to roll over and do whatever we want, so vote for him."

In this election, Bush has my vote. I don't necessarily agree with everything he's done, or all of his policies, but I know that he won't roll over and surrender to the terrorists and appeasers.

40 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:58:05am

Oh come on people, it was a transcription error (more leaders) versus (foreign leaders).

/sarcasm

Yet, as we all know, foreign leaders do have a preference for who they'd like to win (the short list):

Pro Kerry:
The Moonbat;
Assad;
de Vellapin;
Schroeder; and
Chirac (channelling Marshal Petain)

41 Nancy  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:58:15am

Got to love it. Many of Kerry's endorsements thus far are a plus for Bush.

Muslims, Fascists, Socialists --keep on endorsing Kerry!

42 jr2  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:59:02am

OT

Mel Gibson May Develop Maccabees Film

According to Entertainment Weekly, Gibson said the story "fired my imagination." Recounting the story, which occurred in biblical times but is not recounted in the Bible, Gibson said: "It's about Antiochus, the king who set up his religion in the Temple, and forced them all to deny the true God and worship at his feet and worship false gods. The Maccabees family stood up, and they made war, they stuck by their guns, and they came out winning. It's like a Western."

The story ends with a miracle: When the victorious Jews cleansed the Temple of its sacrilegious, they found only enough oil to light the Eternal Flame for one day, but it managed to last eight days, until more oil could be rendered. Hence the eight-day holiday of Hanukkah, when Jews light candles on an eight-branch menorah each night.

43 Thom  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:00:29am

#36 rebTEX

That's even more fun than punting penguins! Thanks.

44 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:02:58am

rebTEX (#36)

I lost. For shame! I'm going to try again.

45 WriterMom  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:05:41am

#42 jr2

I heard Hutton Gibson does not believe there were 8 candles.

46 m  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:06:35am

What amazes me is how so many people who have risen to positions of power in the world have an absolute absence of any reasoning skills. These leaders may want Kerry to win. But do they actually think that telling the American people who they prefer will make it more likely? Don't they realize that any foriegn endorsement, especially from an anti-semitic muslim moonbat, will have the opposite effect to the one intended? Morons!

47 billhedrick  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:07:32am

ahhh doesn't he know John Kerry (Kohn) is jewish?

48 BruxellesBlog  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:08:33am

#40   lawhawk 


Pro Kerry:
The Moonbat;
Assad;
de Vellapin;
Schroeder; and
Chirac (channelling Marshal Petain)

And how can we forget,

The Spanish communist shoe shine boy.

49 Zionista  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:11:20am

Do we really want to play this game? Charles Manson digs the Beatles. And Dubya liked what he saw in the soul of Vladimir Putin.

Helter Skelter!

50 Renna  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:12:47am
But do they actually think that telling the American people who they prefer will make it more likely? Don't they realize that any foriegn endorsement, especially from an anti-semitic muslim moonbat, will have the opposite effect to the one intended? Morons!

Thus the AQ "endorsement" of Bush.
Linky

51 Dweller  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:13:22am

#26 Colt

That link is to a page from 2003 isn't it?

52 SoCalJustice  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:14:22am
“But in the U.S., the Jewish lobby is very strong, and any American who wants to become president cannot change the policy toward Palestine radically,” he said.

By the way, Tom Friedman agrees with Moonbat Mahatir, but would probably say that he's pulling his punches:

A Rude Awakening

In a February 5th column, “A Rude Awakening,” New York Times syndicated columnist Tom Friedman rudely awakens his readers to his apparent inability to write rationally and accurately about Ariel Sharon. He uses imagery and descriptions that are, in the familiar words of Harvard President Lawrence Summers, “anti-Semitic in their effect if not their intent.”

Friedman writes that Sharon has “had George Bush under house arrest in the Oval Office. Mr. Sharon has Mr. Arafat surrounded by tanks, and Mr. Bush surrounded by Jewish and Christian pro-Israel lobbyists, by a vice president, Dick Cheney, who's ready to do whatever Mr. Sharon dictates, and by political handlers telling the president not to put any pressure on Israel in an election year — all conspiring to make sure the president does nothing.”

As well as unfairly impugning the integrity of President Bush and Vice President Cheney, Friedman uses age-old themes commonly associated with anti-Semitic canards: Jews “conspiring” to control the government, Jews “dictating” to compliant government officials.

53 someone  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:15:14am

debriefed (#37): I'm wondering about a Hillary-led surprise myself. Hope Rove has a plan for that.

The Dems have an early convention (late July) though, for what it's worth.

54 Frank IBC  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:16:05am

ahhh doesn't he know John Kerry (Kohn) is jewish?

And not just a run-of-the-mill Jew, but a COHEN.

55 abc  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:16:14am

blah, blah, blah

Oh yeah, and damn the Jews!


What a bunch of nuts.

56 SoCalJustice  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:17:47am

(#52) Me

I forgot to tag the end of my post thusly:

Tom Friedman, Moonbat.

/although his column today was not horrible:

Axis of Appeasement

The notion that Spain can separate itself from Al Qaeda's onslaught on Western civilization by pulling its troops from Iraq is a fantasy. Bin Laden has said that Spain was once Muslim and he wants it restored that way. As a friend in Cairo e-mailed me, a Spanish pullout from Iraq would only bring to mind Churchill's remark after Chamberlain returned from signing the Munich pact with Hitler: "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war."

He's still a Moonbat.

57 Charles  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:18:21am

(...I'm just counting the minutes until the first troll says, "what's antisemitic about that?"...)

58 Lewis Can't Lose  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:18:31am

#47

Good point. What do y'all think would become of his endorsement were he to be informed that Kerry was one of teh j00z?

It's just amazing that the leader of an Asian country with a near zero Jewish population, a zillion miles from the Middle East, could be so freaking psycho about Hebrews.

Or, maybe a thorough reading of the Koran might provide a little in the way of explanation. ROPMA!

59 Ronnie  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:19:30am

#31 RoP really chappin' my hide

"Would love to see some of these "press" teams with hoods over their heads."

Nope, not me. Just shoot the bastards. And whatever happens, make sure it's fatal. A corpse is a lot better example to their buddies....of course I'm speaking of a well displayed corpse; maybe with a deadly wound right in the forehead.

60 someone  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:19:44am

SoCalJustice (#56): When you realize that Friedman's job is to feed painful truths to lefty Times readers by wrapping them in an anesthetic dose of Bush- and Sharon-hatred, his columns make more sense.

61 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:21:04am

Where's Gooooordo with his latest whiiiiiiiine? He's late!

62 Moonbat_One  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:21:49am

Wonder if dumbfuck knows Kerry is a Jew who changed his name?

63 BruxellesBlog  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:21:50am

49   Zionista 

Do we really want to play this game? Charles Manson digs the Beatles. And Dubya liked what he saw in the soul of Vladimir Putin. Helter Skelter!

As far as I know, Charles Manson didn't say he should be president because the Beatles supported him. Nor has Bush made Putin's suport an election issue.

As J F'in K has TOLD us that he has the support of international leaders, I'm very grateful that so many of them are stepping proudly forward.

I can hardly wait for the campaign video of the endorsements, K. Rove must be laughing his ASS off right now.

64 SoCalJustice  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:22:18am

(#45) Writermom

Did you know that the Macabees didn't actually kill any Greeks?

Rather, they 'simply got up and left' and went to the Bronx, Brooklyn, Sydney, Australia and Los Angeles.

65 Stop Hillary  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:23:12am

Folks, it get worse. John McCain is defending Kerry's voting record on defense matters, slams Cheney and tell us that Kerry would be a strong President on defense.

With members like McCain, the GOP doesn't need adversaries. The Kerry-McCain ticket is looking more likely.

I never trusted McCain since he sold our First Amendment rights out in the McCain Feingold bill that is designed to put elections into the hands of the mainstream media and to enshrine encumbents. Shove it McCain -- cross the aisle now why don't you. Just be done with it.

66 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:23:47am

So Madhatter Mohammed supports a Presidential candidate with Jewish roots who supports the continued occupation of Iraq (at least in stump speeches) and the War on Terror (albeit as a law enforcement issue)? Beam me up Scotty, this planet sucks.

67 Ronnie  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:23:49am

#37 debriefed

"easy for me to enjoy it. it's unsportsmanlike."

LMAO!!!

Yeah, it's great isn't it! Have you ever been fishing with dynamite or spottlighted deer? It fills the freezer!

68 erik in I.C.  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:25:10am

I kept clicking the "back" button on my browser and tried to vote repeatedly, I think it worked, but now that I left the site and went back it won't let me vote again. I am going to go delete my cookies and try again.

69 addison  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:26:46am

Charles,

This is just another of your smears. You should be ashamed of yourself.

70 Catbert  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:30:17am

#42 jr2

There are quite a few martyr stories from the "Abomination of Desolation" days, too. Lots of opportunities for gore that'll make The Passion look tame.

71 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:31:11am

Point made in the comments over at Allah's:

[Link: people-press.org...] Here's an interesting old Pew Report immediately after 9/11. 70% of non-US respondents felt it was "good for U.S. to feel vulnerable". Proof that the US's dominance erodes support regardless of Iraq and that Kerry is wrong in courting "foreign leaders".

Check out the link. Very interesting.

72 Nora  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:32:04am

Did Kerry ask for this guy's endorsement? Can any candidate control who endorses him? What if Charles Manson endorses George Bush for president? Should I not vote for Bush because some crazy murderer endorses him?

Should we pick our president by examining the candidates' endorsements?

What about this endorsement from the last election:

[Link: www.amaweb.org...]

73 Mr Kufr  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:32:11am

#47 #57 #58
Ya'll know where this is heading? No matter who wins in Nov, the asshats will still whine that the 'Zionists' (with scare quotes) still control the govt.

74 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:32:55am

70 Catbert

Ugh, I just imagined Gibson doing a remake of "Masada" a la "The Passion". I do NOT want to watch infants getting killed.

75 Valentine  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:33:07am

OT:Please let this be true. Hang em high I say.

76 The Real Travis  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:33:29am

John Frankenkerry:

Endorsed by antisemites and appeasers everwhere.

77 SoCalJustice  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:34:38am

(#57) Chares

Exactly Charles.

I mean, how can the truth be anti-Semitic?

After all, only 1.3% of the U.S. population is Jewish, yet:

1) Israel still exists;
2) there are 12 bagel shops in Nebraska; and
3) Pauly Shore had a career.

The evidence is irrefutable.

78 noob  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:36:10am

OT:

Movies


Movies

Born to be a "Shahid" (Martyr)
[Link: www.idf.il...]

Exploiting Ambulances for the Smuggling of Explosives
[Link: www.idf.il...]

The Use of a Donkey to Transport Explosives
[Link: www.idf.il...]

The Exploitation of Palestinian Children by Terrorist Organizations
[Link: www.idf.il...]

I got the links from:
http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=20130

79 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:36:22am

Not so far OT:

An AP tally of suicide bombing attacks in Iraq now put the death toll there at 660 for attacks since Saddam was deposed last year.

[Link: customwire.ap.org...]

and.... drum roll everyone, the first (and only) comparison is to.... Israel:

The cycle began nine days after fighting erupted, and has claimed at least 660 lives - far more than in 3 1/2 years of Israel-Palestinian suicide attacks - according to U.S. military officials.

The majority of victims are Iraqis, the U.S. military said. Iraqi officials and police put the death toll higher by at least 100.

In the past year, there have been at least 24 suicide bombings, including four where more than one attacker struck at the same target, according to an Associated Press tally and interviews with officials.

In comparison, since September 2000, 474 people - the majority Israelis - have been killed in 112 Palestinian suicide bombings.

Mind you that they're calling this a cycle of violence in Iraq, even though there was no precipitating act of violence on Muslims - it was all about deposing a murderous tyrant who killed more Muslims than any other butcher of the last 100 years.

80 militarybrat  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:37:21am

Perhaps we should start a pool on who will next endorse Kerry?

My money is on Hassad. Or has that already happened and I missed it while taking care of flu ridden kids?

One of my very liberal crazy family members actually HAILED these "overseas endorsements" as a sign that these people would come to the table and negotiate with Kerry, unlike W.

I don't think I want someone they will "negotiate" with. Some things are not negotiable.

81 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:37:52am

72 Nora

Not applicable...Bush's 2000 endorsement predated the WOT. What's sick about Kerry's (perhaps unwanted) endorsements by Kim Jong Il, Matahir, etc. is PRECISELY because these people know that they would have sway with the man.

82 Renna  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:39:17am

#79 - I guess they ran out of room for a comparison to the number of deaths per year when Saddam was in power. Honest mistake, I'm sure.

83 plutarch  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:41:14am

Well he was boasting about foreign leaders wishing he would be the next president.

Nice to see he is shoulder to shoulder with (*($(#*�%@$^@%#@& racist ex leaders.

The haughty french looking senator, who by the way served in vietnam, should, perhaps be careful what he wishes for, or lies about, or heckles american voters with legitimate questions about.

Next week, the Mugabe endorsement.

The the Kim Jong Il endorsement.

And I thought your poll was over the top.

84 JOEY  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:41:15am

I don't think the F'ing Moonbat realizes that Kerry, last year, discovered a Jewish element to his family history.

85 Ronnie  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 11:57:08am

#75 Valentine

"Hang em high I say."

NO! NO! NO! First a little torture and drug therepy, then perhaps a little emasculation with the results fried up in butter and garlic. THEN the rope!

86 Colt  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:13:54pm

#51 Dweller

Yes, you're right. Not sure where I got the Madrid thing from. My mind is playing tricks. Apologies.

87 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:15:15pm

LGF was down until a minute ago...What happened ? Morlocks ?

88 Mordred  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:15:37pm

Wow, Kerry has been endorsed by the Fraudis, Baby Kim and the Spanish Quisling. And now the Malaysian Moonbat!!

Who's next on the list of Kerry endorsers? Robert Mugabe? Charles Manson? John Wayne Gacy?

89 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:18:00pm

OT (ugh):

As if I needed a reminder about what a degrading view of women and children these people had. Can you believe the age disparity?!

90 Colt  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:18:06pm

#83 plutarch

The the Kim Jong Il endorsement.

Already done. Radio Pyongyang is broadcasting Kerry speeches.

Link

91 Kevin P.  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:19:53pm

DUmb-a$$eS are now commenting on this endorsment, some even welcome it!

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!

[Link: www.democraticunderground.com...]

92 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:20:03pm

WTF did they put in the water over at DU today. Here is a comment about this article:

I am sick of the religious fervour dividing our world. I wish both the radical Jews and radical Christians would cut the rest of humanity a damned break. I wish those radicals would face up to their own desperation and how it is inflicted upon humanity.

Mm-hmm. Riiiiight. Those evil Christians and Jews are against the nice and peaceful muslims I guess.

93 Colt  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:20:45pm

A long and dishonourable list of endorsements:

Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero
Howard Dean
Kim Il Jong & North Korea
Matahir Mohammed
Iran

94 Kevin P.  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:22:01pm

#92 RWC

I saw that and wondered what friggin rock that moron lives under.

95 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:23:14pm

OT again (sorry, busy day in the news):

Bahraini Islamist youths try intimidation tactics and find themselves on the defensive. Let's hope that next time they get roughed up a little more. BTW, with all the goings-on, is today an "up is down" day?!

96 Jimmy The Clam  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:23:45pm

We may be adding Poland to that list.
This is veryBAD!

97 Colt  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:24:23pm

From the DU thread:

Fortunately, most voters don't know where Malaysia is. On the other hand, the GOP might use this to give some people a geography lesson.

Uh-huh.

98 RIP Ford  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:24:41pm

#87 Poitiers-Lepanto

Yeah, I had a problem too.

99 DP  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:25:19pm

Churches burn in Kosovo as Muslims set about the ethnic cleansing of Serbs.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

100 beta Capricorni  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:25:37pm

KERRY: NO FOREIGN ENDORSEMENTS, PLEASE... Kerry Foreign Policy Advisor Rand Beers issued the following statement today: '...It is simply not appropriate for any foreign leader to endorse a candidate in America's presidential election. John Kerry does not seek, and will not accept, any such endorsements'...

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

101 fiery celt  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:26:00pm

From Drudge:


KERRY: NO FOREIGN ENDORSEMENTS, PLEASE... Kerry Foreign Policy Advisor Rand Beers issued the following statement today: '...It is simply not appropriate for any foreign leader to endorse a candidate in America's presidential election. John Kerry does not seek, and will not accept, any such endorsements'...

LOL

102 addison  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:26:11pm

#98,

Hosting Matters was having a proble, it seems. The other Hosting Matters-hosted sites I visit were down as well.

103 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:26:53pm

Regarding the WOT in Europe, BlackFive, The Paratrooper Of Love, really nailed it:

Europeans think that terrorists are like hornets. Don't antagonize them and they will leave you alone. The problem is that Al Qaeda is the most dangerous threat out there, not some distracted insect that will go away once it realizes that no threat exists.
104 curious  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:27:00pm

I'm just curious, does anyone have a guess as to what percent of the Jewish vote will go to Kerry?

105 NY Nana  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:28:01pm

#92 Right Wing Conspiritor

I wouldn't advise that anyone make a dinner reservation in Bahrain in the near or distant future. Ah, such tolerance! What on earth will happen to France and G-d forbid, England, when the muslims take over?

And this comes from the beeb-al jazeera? Seriously, I recall that there is an actual link between them now.


[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Islamists threaten Bahrain diners


More than 100 Islamists have invaded a restaurant in Bahrain and threatened diners with knives, say witnesses.

The youths stormed La Terrasse restaurant near the capital, Manama, on Wednesday night because it was serving alcohol, the owner said.

Customers said one diner managed to grab hold of a knife and he stabbed one of the youths with it.

Bahrain allows bars and restaurants to sell alcohol, but this has recently prompted protests by Islamic activists.

The owner of La Terrasse, Jahanshah Bakhtiar, told the Reuters news agency that there were about 40 customers in the restaurant at the time of the attack, including seven Westerners.

He said: "About 100 young men, shouting 'God is great', came to the restaurant carrying knives and shouted at the customers, 'Why do you drink?'"

The stabbed youth was taken to hospital and was reported to be in a critical condition.

The attackers also threw petrol bombs at cars parked outside the restaurant, damaging seven of them.

A Bahraini interior ministry official told local media that police had arrested a number of youths following the incident.


106 johnCV  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:29:44pm

Don't forget that little Kmmy was the first to stsrt the rush to endorse.

j effin k is building a true 'dream team' of world leaders - how could he lose?

NK loves Kerry

107 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:30:07pm

Anyone else out here have trouble connceting to LGF or was it my ole 56k dial up?

108 Thom  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:30:09pm

#96 Jimmy The Clam

{sigh}

The Polish head of state questioned the wisdom of pulling foreign troops from the strife-torn country saying such a move could have a counter effect.

"What would be the point of pulling the troops if it meant a return to war, ethnic cleansing and conflict in neighboring countries," he told a group of visiting French journalists.

"If we protest against the United States' dominant role in world politics and we withdraw our troops knowing they will be replaced by US soldiers, what would be the point of such a move?" he questioned.

He said he was disappointed by the new Spanish government's threat to withdraw its 1,300 soldiers.

"We cannot alter our mission to stabilize Iraq to one to destabilize the country," he said.

"Passiveness will lead us nowhere," he added.

109 Jimmy The Clam  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:30:53pm

Losing Poland is not good folks.

110 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:30:57pm

100/101

Yeah Kerry I think it's just a little late for that, after your little boast about foreign leaders. If it's inappropriate for them to endorse you, it's more inappropriate for you to brag about all your private endorsements.

111 johnCV  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:30:59pm

realwest

yeah me too....

not just here but other sites as well.

112 Stop Hillary  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:31:09pm

#72 Nora -- "Did Kerry ask for this guy's endorsement? Can any candidate control who endorses him? What if Charles Manson endorses George Bush for president? Should I not vote for Bush because some crazy murderer endorses him?"

Nora,

You are probably forgetting that Kerry put this issue in play by preposterously stating that he had endorsements of foreign leaders -- as a testament to his foreign affairs credibility as your next President. Then, when challenged to identify them, he refused. He reasserted that he had them but he refused and still refuses to disclose them.

What are we to believe? He is lying and never had them? It is just as credible to believe that he sought and received them from the parties who now offer them. While Kerry may be reticent to disclose them to the American public, the other foreign leaders apparently are not so reticent. I haven't heard Kerry reject any of the support or assert he didn't ask for it.

Kerry can clear it all up by leveling with us. Of course, to do that means he'd have to admit he was baldfaced lying about it, but coming clean is an option.

By contrast, GWB did not purport to claim silent nondiscloseable endorsements from anyone. So if Manson lines up with Bush, I can disregard that and so can Bush. Kerry made this an issue of his own volition. So, let the lying sack of fecal matter nuance his way out of it.

113 Colt  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:31:43pm

#107 realwest

Yeah.

#109 Jimmy the Clam

We aren't losing Poland. Not yet, anyway...

114 J.D.  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:32:17pm

realwest

It was gone for a short time for me, also.

115 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:33:26pm

Kevin P and Colt

Did you see the post. Ahhh hell I will just go grab it.

Once second..

step........step........step..

"Name those foreign leaders who want Kerry instead of Bush."

Okay, douchebag, they're starting to line up . . .


I can't find the original one I was looking for. It basically stated that Mahathir really wanted Bush to win, that's why he came out for Kerry. Like that spin ;-)

116 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:33:36pm

The Sanity Inspector (#103)

Brilliantly put.

117 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:34:47pm

95/105

Note that the customers weren't taking it like sheep:

Customers said one diner managed to grab hold of a knife and he stabbed one of the youths with it.

There's a good reason not to outlaw swords.

118 Neville Chamberlain's Ghost  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:35:13pm

John, John, he's our man.
If he can't do it nobody can.

119 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:35:19pm

#100 beta Capricorni and
101 fiery celt

How about that? It's not exactly like he "Kerryed" (newspeak for flip flop) but after he makes his statement about how foreign leaders have privately told me they want me to win, then he gets challenged to name names, now he doesn't think it's appropriate for foreign leaders to endorse a candidate in the US presidential election.
He is an abject tool. And those who support him are object fools.

120 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:39:15pm

#100 beta Capricorni

LMFAO !!!!!!! My gosh Kerry is such a fuc*ing tool. How can anyone vote for this imbecile.

#105 NY Nana

Well, I will gladly invite those youths over here. Ya know, March Madness, happy hour, I will even tell them the bars that have the best drink specials. This should be fun.

Kudos to that 'one' person who did something.

121 NY Nana  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:40:35pm

#62

Moonbat:

Kerry is not a Jew! Gee, haven't we got enough troubles already? His paternal grandmother and grandfather were born Jews who converted to Catholicism long before he was born. Judaism takes the matrilineal line to designate religion. Kerry has been a Catholic since birth. Ironically, his brother, Cameron, converted to Judaism when he married a Jewish woman.

The Boston Globe had geneologists do a search, and it was revealed. Sadly, it was also very recently revealed that some of his great grandparents' family went to the ovens in the Holocaust.

He almost sounds like another Madeline Not Bright, but her denial was all the more despicable, as she knew she had been born a Jew before she converted to 2 other religions. Her father had a diplomatic passport, and took his wife and kids to the relative safety of London, but he and his wife left their parents behind to also go to the ovens. I have seen many areas of London and England where the Blitz hit, and feel very blessed to have been born here.

I think that Kerry might have been aware of at least one of his grandparent's Jewish origins.

122 William  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:41:16pm

Senator John McCain's stock just dropped about 1000 points:

Associated Press
March 18, 2004

McCain Backs Kerry on Defense

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said Thursday he did not believe Democratic candidate John Kerry, a friend and Senate colleague, was weak on defense or would compromise national security if elected president.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Is McCain for real?
 

123 Neville Chamberlain's Ghost  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:41:33pm

My good friends, if you elect Mr. Kerry President, we will all return from Iraq, bringing peace with honour. I believe it will be peace for our time...
Go home and get a nice quiet sleep.

124 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:43:37pm

#105 NY Nana - a gang of utes (NY or at least brooklynese for "youths" - hat tip (!) My Uncle Vinny) -
maybe we should send 100 or so Bloods or Crypts over to show them how to really do a drive by - ya know, with Tech 9-s, uzi's etc. Then show them again, and again and................
BTW some of the NYC LGFer's are going to have a get-together on March 28th - love to have you come. If you're interested, click on my nick -i'tll take you to my blog then just hit the contact me feature to send me an e-mail.
Also, any other NYC LGFer's out there interested, contact me too!!!

125 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:43:40pm

#117 RoP really chappin' my hide

Wow. Some people are that dense I guess.

We must ban:

Assault Rifles
Hunting Guns
Swords
Knives
Baseball Bats
Metal Pipes
Rolls of Coins
Socks with Batteries in them
Sticks

Ahh, peace at last.

Dude, why did you punch me.

I propose a new law banning all appendages.

126 sefton  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:43:58pm

Ahh , the rogues gallery of Kerry's foriegn supporters grows.
Should make for a fun GOP campaign commercial.

127 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:44:40pm

#122 William,

McCain is about to lose his most favored senator status with me. First the business about the VP then this.

That and the Poland story have got me down. Oh well, a world turned upside down.

128 Neville Chamberlain's Ghost  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:47:26pm

That John Kerry--such a charming chap. Don't much care for the wife, though. Eerily reminiscent of Lady Astor.

129 DP  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:49:30pm

The Jihad starts in Kosovo. The few remaining Serbs are being ethnically cleansed from their ancestral lands.

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

I wonder when the US will apologise for its stupidity or mistake in helping Muslims in their Jihad.

130 sefton  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:49:56pm

Sen. Kerry , what was that you just stepped in?

hmmmm...looks like dog shit.

Well , smell it. What that smell like to you?

Smells like dog shit.

Taste!

Taste?!

Taste. What that taste like to you?

blech! Taste like dog shit.

Hmmmmm...good thing I didn't step in it.


Ya ,ya lets go eat.

131 Neville Chamberlain's Ghost  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:51:01pm

...or Lady Macbeth.

132 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:51:07pm

#127 John Gibbon

Oh well, a world turned upside down.


Don't worry. We may not be the only ones:

UFO streaks through Martian sky

Astronomers say it could be the first meteor seen from the surface of another world, or a redundant orbiting spacecraft sent to Mars 30 years ago

Scully !! Mulder !! To the Batmobile !!!!

133 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:51:17pm

#121 NY Nana - or anyone who knows, is Kerry Irish?

134 Stop Hillary  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:51:21pm

#95 Chapin' -- "Bahraini Islamist youths try intimidation tactics and find themselves on the defensive. Let's hope that next time they get roughed up a little more. BTW, with all the goings-on, is today an "up is down" day?! "

Talk about clash of cultures. Our adults consider it to be a social problem when our teenagers obtain alcohol, drink cocktails and drive automobiles. In the world of the Islamofacists, their teenagers use knives to assault adults, who are drinking alcohol, and then toss molotov cocktails at their automobiles.

On the whole, I think I'd rather deal with our teenager problems.

Some religion of peace.

135 SoCalJustice  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:54:45pm

(#93) Colt

You can add one more prominent world figure to that list.

And along those lines, here's another sign that the world is upside down:

conservativesforkerry.com

136 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:55:06pm

DAMN IT !!!!!

Mullah Aidid Eada Tha-Sheeta just claimed the UFO/meteorite as the 1,219th holiest place/relic in islam. Those crafty cats are always one step ahead.

137 NY Nana  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:55:35pm

#120 Right Wing Conspirator

As a sign of hospitality, so would I! Have you ever seen the tab for alcoholic beverages run up by visting muslims, when they take over whole hotels to party! Heck, they could feed their countrymen.

Uh, please don't send the invite c/o the Bahraini government! On the other hand........

Re voting for Kerry? With a clothespin on their nose, or perhaps a bit of money in their pocket? I grew up in a Boston where the Mayor, good old James Michael Curley, was in jail! Much like Chicago, the motto was 'Vote early and vote often!'. Ya gotta wonder!

Hanging chads, indeed. Since President Bush will win, we can all sit and watch Kerry self-destruct.

Regarding the Jewish vote, this article was in yesterday's New York Daily News, and it was quite a surprise, as Chafets is not a fan of the President, but he is a Zionist. His background is on the article. His viewpoint on Christian Zionists offends me, as I have found that as a Jew, we have no better friends, and sadly, the Jewish LLL wear blinders. Without our Christian friends, who would also lay their lives on the line for Israel, we would be very alone.

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

George W. Bush is born-again, too, but he also is the most pro-Israel President in history. Eckstein believes President Bush will get a significant Jewish vote, perhaps enough to make a difference in electoral battleground states like Illinois, Pennsylvania and, especially, Florida.
138 scaramouche  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 12:58:25pm

#133 realwest

Kerry is faux-Irish. His Jewish grandfather changed his name from Kohn:
[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

139 Haiku  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:01:34pm

OT:

I don't if somebody here already wrote about this but the city of Santa Cruz, California has proclaimed March 16, "Rachel Corrie day." The idiotic mayor of the communist city, Scott Kennedy, said that an investigation must be made to find out what really happenned to Rachel. I could tell him right now; Rachel fell in front of a bulldozer and was accidentally run over. It's not hard to figure out!
This is not the main story of the article but it's just as ludricious about everything else written. Note the last statement at the end of the article, it doesn't make any sense unless your a radical left-wing loony.

[Link: www.commondreams.org...]

140 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:02:24pm

125 RWC

Yeah, well, the way the LLL thinks, WORDS of disagreement can apparently be "violent". I saw a news report this morning about the Methodist trial of one of their clergy. Mind you, the worst that can happen is that the lady would be defrocked. Not even kicked out of the church, but removed from the clergy. One of the protestors said something to the effect of, "This is a form of violence. Not she's not being physically injured, but this is a form of violence." Say whaaaaaa??? Lock and load, baby, lock and load...they're coming for your tongue!

141 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:03:04pm

#137 NY Nana

Well, I must say your a little more good-hearted than I am. I just wanted to see what happened when some of these run in and yell at a couple of guys who just lost 500 on their office pool and are fairly sloshed at the time. :-)

142 Judith  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:03:23pm
Can anyone remember an earlier presidential race where a candidate used the endorsement of foreign leaders as a reason to vote for him?

Well there was Bush's delighted response to Rick Mercer's announcement that Canadian Prime Minister Jean Putin had endorsed his candidacy.

I recall him walking away and looking back with this "I think I've been had" expression.

Great moments in foreign endorsement.

143 IHSoter  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:03:49pm

Re: Gibson Movie on "Maccabees".

I & II Maccabees are in the Catholic Bible, along w/ five other extra books.

Another good reason to be Catholic, more bible for your money. ;-))

I have been thinking that Gibson should do just this very thing. ~ It would go along way toward reconciling w/ the Jews who were so frightened by his recent "Passion" & it would present the Jews in a heroic light, that would serve a good propaganda purpose. ~ The Maccabees is a good story too, very heroic. ~ Though the Hannakah story doesn't appear in those books

144 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:04:20pm

#132 Right Wing Conspirator 3/18/2004 02:51PM PST

That's too frickin' scary...I'm beginning to lose it, McCain, Poland and now UFOs on Mars. What next, the end of the World?

I'm really hoping that was the Viking 2, or I'm curling up real tight under my sheets tonight! (after a few Jack 'n' Cokes)

145 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:05:23pm

#127 John Gibbon - try not to be too down; there are days like this. If it helps any, a new friend I made when I attended the silent demostration put on by the Spanish Consulate here before the elections called me today to tell me that her family and friends in Spain have been shocked at the reaction to the little shoemaker's promise to withdraw the Spanish troops.
Not shocked at our response, but most Spaniards were literally in a state of rage and shock after 3/11 and many voted for Zapatera because they were pissed off that Anzar's goverment was forcing the blame on ETA, when it was pretty apparent (she says to them) that it was Islamofacsits.
Apparently, BEFORE the 3/11 bombings a majority of Spaniards were pretty unhappy about troops in Iraq - not because they're not on board with the WoT, but for other reasons.
She said to me Zapatera would have been smarter to say the troops stay, because to remove them now would be cowardly and counterproductive.
She said there have been thousands of demonstraters in Spain protesting the removal of their troops (for whatever reasons) but you'd never know it by the media.
It may also help to look at it this way; AQ had a good inning; now we're up - could be a big inning for us with what's going on in Pakistan. And always remember, we're the home team, we get the last at bats.

146 fiery celt  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:06:39pm

realwest---

Kerry is not Irish, nor does he have any Irish Heritage

He lied about being of Irish descent to appeal to Mass. Irish-American voters.

"For those of us who are fortunate to share an Irish ancestry, we take great pride in the contributions that Irish-Americans" — Senate floor statement by John Kerry, 3/18/86

"(John Kerry) has never indicated to anyone that he was Irish and corrected people over the years who assumed he was" -- Kerry spokeswoman Kelly Benander said in Feb, 2003

JFKerry is a liar--- but We all knew that already-

147 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:06:42pm

#140 RoP really chappin' my hide

Gotta love the thought / no action LLL police. You may remember this, I think it was about a little more than a year ago where there was a state/county/city ? that was trying to pass laws against scornful/upsetting (you know the drill) facial expressions. I will see if I can find it.

148 Mardukhai  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:12:01pm

FLYING PIG MOMENT

Saudi Columnists essentially thinks like an LGF'er

The following article, written in the Saudi English-language Arab News by columnist Muhammad Al-Rasheed, criticized Arabs for blaming the U.S. for the terror attacks in Karbala and Baghdad. [1]

The money quote is the last part about blowing up office buildings. It's a direct reference to 9/11, calling a place of work the same as a place of prayer. That's a little much, even for an LGF'er, but still, the point is well taken.

Now, when is this going to appear in Arabic?

(Translated by MEMRI.ORG)

----

'The Creed that Sanctions Blowing Up Worshippers in Mosques ... Should Be Declared the Public Enemy of Humanity'

Terrorists in Iraq Are More Barbarous Than Saddam
"Just when we seem to have moved a step forward, something happens to make us take ten steps back. Sacrificial blood in Karbala and Baghdad is nothing new but the latest atrocity on the most sacred day for the Shia was a criminal act of monstrous proportions. The carnage and the spectacle were on a scale not seen since the last sacking of Karbala over a century ago.

"The perpetrators have an agenda more vicious than anything Saddam could have dreamed up. Saddam killed and maimed to maintain his rule by brute force. These people kill and maim to turn people against each other and to satisfy a bloodlust based on elitism in theological terms. In other words, they want to win in this world and go to heaven in the next. I don't think Saddam was that optimistic; otherwise, the Americans would not have found him alive in a hole."

'Arabs Blame Others and Shun the Facts'

"What is overwhelming, however, is the reaction while the blood is still hot and streaming down the streets of Iraq. A few Shia clerics, including prominent ones in Lebanon, have declared that America is to blame for this atrocity. How so, pray tell? 'It did not provide security,' is the answer. Mind you, this America is the one the same the Shia are now talking to so they can finally govern themselves for the first time in 1400 years. If I were a Shia and from Iraq, I'd pray to the Almighty that America remained in Iraq until the country was stable and on its feet again. Otherwise, the Karbala massacre will be just a trailer for the full version of an unbelievable horror show."

'Shia and Sunni Know Perfectly Well Who the Perpetrators [of the Karbala Massacres] Are'

"My point, however, is not America's role. It is something I have written about many times: the Arab tendency to blame others and shun the facts. Shia and Sunni know perfectly well who the perpetrators are. There might be 'foreign fighters' responsible for this, but foreign and Iraqi members of this group come under the heading of 'Arab.' They also come under the sub-title of 'theological elitism' – my own euphemism for what cannot be spelled out in print.

"Shouldn't the Shia clerics name names and point fingers in the right direction? We are sick and tired of this kind of behavior. We honestly have had enough of it and cannot blame the world for looking at us and wondering if we retain any shred of humanity. The creed that sanctions blowing up worshipers in mosques (or any other religious venue for that matter, including office buildings since Islam says that work is worship) should be declared the public enemy of humanity.

The UN should vote on that publicly and let us count the votes and identify those who vote against the motion."


[1] Arab News (Saudi Arabia), March 11, 2004.

149 Chuck  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:13:06pm

What right do you have, Little Foot, to be indignant about a perceived anti-semitic remark when you yourself write:

"A new play running in Cairo gives us a glimpse into the sickness and fascination with death at the heart of Arab culture."

If you're against bigotry, then don't practice it.

150 ShiplordAtvar  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:13:15pm

Ain't it funny - Kerry seeks endorsements among foreigners who want to do anything they can to undermine our power.

And yet Bush is the moron? Explain this to me please.

151 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:13:45pm

How Ironic,

Under Google Image search, type in 'moonbat' and see who you get on page 2, last row, 3rd picture.

Its rated 'G' so don't worry....I'm not Evariste!

I never realized the P-67 Moonbat was such a cool looking aircraft!

153 andrew  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:15:43pm

#149 Chuck

Little Foot, AKA Ned, is a truth addict, not a bigot.

154 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:16:36pm

#144 John Gibbon

Here is something that will cheer you up.

everyone else also, granted, some have probably seen this list already.

The 213 Things Skippy is No Longer Allowed to Do in the U.S. Army
Some of my favorites:

#7 Not allowed to add 'In accordance with the prophesy' to the end of answers I give to a question an officer asks me.
#15 Not allowed to train adopted stray dogs to 'Sic Brass!'
#32 Not allowed to let sock puppets take command of my post.
#54 'Napalm sticks to kids' is *not* a motivational phrase.
#58 The following words and phrases may not be used in a cadence- Budding sexuality, necrophilia, I hate everyone in this formation and wish they were dead, sexual lubrication, black earth mother, all Marines are latent homosexuals, Tantric yoga, Gotterdammerung, Korean hooker, Eskimo Nell, we've all got jackboots now, slut puppy, or any references to squid.


Hell, there are too many to list the funniest one.

Warning, monitor/keyboard covering may be warranted.

155 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:17:26pm
156 NY Nana  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:18:00pm

#124 Realwest:

I can even say 'terlet' in honor of Greenpoint of yore. I may be from Boston, but trained at Brooklyn Jewish in the last century :) Class of '61. What I can't say to save myself is " Pahk the cah in Hahvad Yahd' in Bostonese, as I have lived in NY most of my life, and my husband is from Brooklyn!

If all the LGF'ers in the area want to help us prepare the house for Passover, bring all your cleaning gear, and lots of lining paper. I guess some will be able to supply the aluminum foil from their hats to help, but can they ever have any fun? Oh, they can kasher the oven!

Party on! I hope to next time.

#141 Right Wing Conspirator

On second thought, you idea sounds like more fun! It also sounds like a great plotline for a TV comedy! Maybe on Fox?

157 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:19:11pm

#144 John Gibbon - now YOU'VE got me down!! Thanks a lot.
"Jack 'n Cokes" Jack and cokes!!!! You sir, are an absolute heathen. Jack should be drunk (drank? - shit!) either neat - sippin style - or on one ice cube. Jack and cokes, migod. The only booze I've tried that actually goes well with coke is Rum.

Course, if you try to become more civilized and drink several, um a few Jack's neat, I'd advise you to chug some gatorade before turning in.

Um, I see by the old clock on the 'puter that it's happy hour here, so I'll be taking my own advice now.

158 BulgarWheat  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:19:21pm

Time for Mahathir to go into the "Way back in time machine"

September 11th turned a page, and upsetting wack-jobs like this dweeb are not our concern. Not anymore, no pretenses, the gloves are off, the cat is out of the bag...

Hunting bad-guys or evil doers has it's own reward. And that is on Earth, no virgins are involved,.....

This bunch of carpet ticks lies to their young to get them to strap bombs on their bodies to kill the innocent, in spite of the fact that there will be no virgins, there will not be paradise, only Satan's fork banging against their skinny butts,... our young volunteer to server their country, maybe get a college education out of it and become productive members of society.

Sure, the western way is not as flamboyant, but it has worked in America, and God willing, it could work for the rest of the world.

These people are bugs, and as long as the world needs a Big Old Mick with a night stick, I guess we'll answer the call.

159 debriefed  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:21:36pm

john gibbon: gratitude! i haven't seen the old nato names in years! this is so cool! all this stuff used to classified-- i guess it finally made the timegate.

160 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:25:10pm

147 RWC Why would I not be surprised if this occurred in either California or Washington?

161 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:27:23pm
162 militarybrat  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:28:31pm

RWC;

Oh my God! Hilarious!

I remember my husband humming #54 after he came back from army basic

OT: but like RWC's posting
Slate has an article that includes a recording of a ton of the grafitti around Iraq. My personal favorite:

SADDAM WILL RETURN
underneath that is written
THROUGH MY A*S!!!

163 Jheka  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:29:00pm

#149 chuck:

Is truth a defense against charges of bigotry or are any and all criticisms of a culture/religion de-facto instances of bigotry that must be avoided and criticized?

164 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:32:55pm

#162 militarybrat

Thanks. Has the hubby ever seen/heard of that list?

ps- hows the flu-ridden? Better?

165 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:35:09pm

#154 Right Wing Conspirator 3/18/2004 03:16PM PST

I read the entire thing, I get a sense that the real SPC Swartz was a female specialist (E-4) in one of the PSYOPs battalions stationed at Fort Bragg, who spent a tour in Bosnia.

All the references to lap dances etc, etc.

#152 The following items do not exist: Keys to the Drop Zone, A box of grid squares, blinker fluid, winter air for tires, canopy lights, or Chem-Light ® batteries.

All the things we'd send the newbies out to 'find', heh, heh.

166 Andrew Ian Dodge  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:39:34pm

Nice to have had a judenhass as the leader of such large country.

167 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:43:22pm

People, the "Chuck" troll links to a blog with this post. One of the commenters wrote:

Frankly, they asked for it. That will be terribly un-PC but I really wouldn't have any problem if every single idiot who went to Iraq to proselytise was shot. Proselytism is one of the things I despise the most in religions; saying it's obnoxious is beyond the point, it's arrogance, hubris and a form of racism.

LLL!! Wow, a group of missionaries sharing their faith and doing public-works projects are "racists". If it wasn't so sad I'd be bwahaha-ing. Remember to compare the LLL's saints (Rachel Corrie) with the Elliots.

168 Thom  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:43:50pm

#163 Jheka

Did you check out its blog? "Chuck" is an idiotarian turd of the lowest, vilest order (imho).

Second story from the top: "3 missionaries shot dead in Iraq . . . and I don't care."

"Chuck" has issues .....

169 John Effing Kerry  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:44:08pm

The news that Mr. Mahathir supports my candidacy proves that Bush is the wrong man to lead the war 'almost alone' into unknown vistas of opportunity...I stand by my principles on this; it could go either way.
Furthermore, I acknowledged Mr. Mahathir's support soon after I disavowed any knowledge of his claims of support for my.....blah, blah, blah...yadda...yadda....yadda

170 J.D.  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:44:23pm

OT
Geez. I haven't seen CBS news in a looooong time, but *someone* has been watching basketball. CBS is as biased as ever. They quoted a complaining Iraqi, so I was waiting for them to quote a non-complaining Iraqi.

Nothing

171 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:45:47pm
172 energyforcapital  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:46:45pm

J.D.

As you probably know. That's why they're known to some as, "See B.S."


efc

173 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:47:42pm

Oh, and what other troll did I find there but our beloved Meteor Blade with these sensitive comments:

To me, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Krishnas, et cetera, are all cultists. I'll put up with their carillions and muezzins and tambourines as long as they don't prance around my door. But, frankly, if they seek martyrdom among people who are willing to assist them, I'm not going to leak one tear.
174 Thom  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:47:51pm

Hey Chuck -

While you're whining about "the Chimp's" non-existent mental deficiencies, perhaps you should examine the scar tissue in your own brain pan:

"Stan Crock presents evidence that the the [sic] Chimp is dyslexic ..."

Dumbass.

175 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:48:08pm

#157 realwest 3/18/2004 03:19PM PST

The only bourbon I can take 'neat' is Makers Mark, ever try it? Smoooooooth.

Good Scotch can be taken neat by John Gibbon also. (who should not address itself in the third person)

176 funky cold medina  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:49:16pm

#129

I'm not holding my breath nor am I surprised.

177 J.D.  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:49:43pm

efc

That's why they're known to some as, "See B.S."

That's apt.
Thanks.

178 militarybrat  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:52:09pm

RWC:

Thanks for asking - all better here, AFTER they gave it to me, of course!

The three year old Minnie Mouse puppy lover was MUCH easier to deal with than the 1 year old huge boy. it must be a guy thing, she was a lot sicker than he was.

I'm not sure if husband has seen the list. I'll ask when he gets home. Our 11 year old is in CAP now, and he got her by asking her about "prop-wash" while she was studying for a rank test the other day.

179 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:54:35pm

#154 RWC - LMFAO!! and spilled/spit my first drink. You're right, there are so many funny one's (maybe 200 out of the 213 are really a scream, that it's hard to pick one out, but I do love
#6 Not allowed to play 'Pulp Fiction' with a suction-cup dart pistol and any officer.
#179 On Army documents, my race is not 'Other'
#180 Nor is it 'Secretariat, in the third and last but not least: #77 The MP checkpoint is not an Imperial Stormtrooper roadblock, so I should not tell them "You don't need to see my identification, these are not the droids you are looking for."

180 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:57:04pm
181 NY Nana  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 1:59:24pm

If the topic of waffles hasn't been exhausted, and I don't see it even resting as long as Kerry opens his mouth. November seems so faaaaaaaar away.

[Link: slate.msn.com...]

His waffles are very clear...not a drop of syrup on them, and these are not even up to whatever he waffled over since the article's publication 2 weeks ago.

The chart, with quotes and dates, is at the end of the article. Here is part of the article:


Here, then, since John Edwards was too polite to mention them (though President Bush won't be), is a guide to some of Kerry's other reversals on substantive issues. This list doesn't include quickly withdrawn gaffes, such as Kerry's recent suggestion (retracted after an uproar from Jewish groups) that he might make James Baker or Jimmy Carter his Middle East envoy. It doesn't include long-renounced youthful indiscretions, such as his proposal after returning from Vietnam to eliminate most of the CIA. It doesn't include less clear-cut sins of omission and opportunism, such as his stirring denunciations of companies caught in accounting frauds, even though he supported a 1995 law protecting those companies from liability. And it doesn't include the inevitable fund-raising hypocrisies that accompany all modern campaigns, such as his donations from some of the "Benedict Arnold" companies he routinely rips on the trail, or his bundling of contributions from special interests despite his high-minded rejection of PAC money. Even so, the list is long, and it isn't all-inclusive. Kerry's supporters cite his reversals as evidence of the senator's capacity for nuance and complexity, growth and change. His critics say they represent a fundamental lack of principles. Either way, we'll be hearing a lot about them over the next eight months.
182 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:02:29pm

181 NY Nana

Kerry's supporters cite his reversals as evidence of the senator's capacity for nuance and complexity, growth and change.

It's amazing how much you can grow as a person in the time it takes to utter one sentence.

183 Charles  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:02:41pm

Nope, "Chuck" and "Meteor Blades" are two different highly empathetic peace lovers. "Chuck" is currently enjoying the educational services of UC Irvine.

184 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:03:06pm

#179 realwest 3/18/2004 03:54PM PST

Realwest, for some more hoots, goto the Makers Mark website, (click the link 'yes I am 18') and read the 'legal stuff' Its hilarious!

Got to run some chicken fat off, but I'll be back in an hour!

185 debriefed  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:03:47pm

john gibbon: the Maccabees would be awesome! however, i heard mel discussing his doubts about gwb and the WMD on hannity the other day. i sure hope he's not going to spoil this (and all the road warrior movies) for me.

i went to see mystic river the other night, and the otherwise fine (i'm sure) performances of penn and robbins were corrupted by the double image of those idiots pretending to be politcos. i wrote to clint eastwood and asked for my money back so i could buy the book.

again, i truly do not believe there is anti-semitism (from Mel at least) in the passion. i have not seen the movie (but i've heard enough to know that i don't want to). it wouldn't work for me. i think mel is trying to replicate the penitential experience through film. history: (sorry) the penetenteagite were an italian schism sect (persecuted out of existance by the RC in the 1300s) that were transfixed by the suffering and passion of jesus, even to the point of replicating the wounds and scourging on their own bodies. it was their "approach to god". mel is attempting to treat viewers to a "virtual" penitential experience. of course this will not work for anyone without the christian background to be receptive to it (i don't think). and of course he can't explain what he is attempting, because (well, maybe fewer people would go, ok) he wants to have others experience the same epiphany he experienced. i think this is ok. this is my same attitude to most things-- (except for the suppression of scientific research!) against gay marriage? don't have one. not interested in a virtual flogging and scourging? don't see the passion. i personally think mel trying to share a religious experience is far more commendable than penn and robbins telling me how to vote.

186 RoP really chappin' my hide  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:03:55pm
187 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:06:07pm

#178 military

Thats good. Not totally a guy thing. I get sick, I am fine. My brother on the other hand can't get up for a glass of water. LOL about the 'prop-wash.' That is just cruel (but I know I am going to be doing the same thing ;-)


#179 realwest

Thought you might appreciate that also.

but, I am sorry to say I must side with John Gibbon here. Makers Mark is the way to go. (It could be that I have gotten so used to Jack that I needed a change)

188 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:06:45pm

that was '#178 militarybrat'

sorry 'bout that.

189 follow the money  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:09:27pm

From the corner.

See who's supporting Cair-y in your neighborhood.

[Link: www.billingsgazette.com...]

Just another way to follow the money!

190 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:11:56pm

One last comment about 'Chuck.'

He is an intellectual powerhouse:

Yes, the fact that most of us lead a sedentary existence now whereas our ancestors for the most part had to get off their butts in order to work goes undereported

Do you really need a report or a study to tell you that.
ps - I thought I struck gold when I had seen that there were an actual 2 comments in one thread. But gosh darnit, one of them was from you.

191 Lansenkat  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:16:17pm

154 RWC
That is the best laugh I've had in ages.
There are too many favorites to count. That being said I have to say #43 #77 and #142 are especially good.

192 NY Nana  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:22:39pm

#182 RoP really chappin' my hide

Can I call you RoP for short?

Absolutely amazing! Let us hope that in Kerry's case, it will amount to shrinkage of major proportions.

One more re Kerry's heritage, and I promise no more! As someone who voted for the real JFK, it was assumed for far too long that this fraud was also Irish. He did everything to encourage the image, and his alliance with the regrettable Teddy only made it worse.

BTW, has anyone heard any comment on the tragedy in Spain from him? I caught the very end of what seemed to be the first one today, on the radio. He is shameless. To admit that President Bush is so right re terrorism would have made him waffle, but then he has it down to an art form!

[Link: www.kansascity.com...]

Kerry alternately pleases, befuddles Arab Americans and Jews

By JAMES KUHNHENN
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - Sen. John Kerry is a former altar boy with a Jewish heritage that includes at least two victims of the Holocaust in his family tree. His brother converted to Judaism. He supports Israel. So he should be a cinch with Jewish voters and donors, yes?

Not quite.

Over the past few months, wary leaders of the Jewish community have questioned Kerry's stance on the Middle East. Many were incensed when he told Arab-Americans in October that Israel's security fence presented a "barrier to peace."

They've urged him to clarify his position and warned that Jews, a reliable Democratic bloc in the past, are politically in play after President Bush's forceful post-Sept. 11, 2001, policies in the Middle East.

"The Jewish community has not been a battleground until now," said Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., who attended a question-filled session between Kerry and Jewish leaders last week in New York.

For Kerry, holding on to Jewish voters is especially important in states such as Florida. So far, Kerry has fared well with Jews as he has moved to secure the Democratic Party nomination, but the Sunshine State could be crucial in November's general election, and Jewish defections to Bush could cost Kerry the state.

The closely divided U.S. electorate, however, has led Kerry to perform a political high-wire act.

Arab-Americans are also becoming a political force and constitute a sizable voting bloc in states such as Michigan and Pennsylvania. Kerry has gone out of his way to appeal for their votes. He has scored with his criticism of Attorney General John Ashcroft, whom many Arab-Americans accuse of civil rights violations in the aftermath of Sept. 11.

"We feel closer to Senator Kerry than we did to many of the other (Democratic) candidates who were running," said James Zogby, founder and president of the Arab American Institute, an advocacy group for Arab-Americans.

Zogby pointed out that Ralph Nader, who is of Lebanese ancestry, received more than 13 percent of the Arab-American vote in 2000. More than 80 percent of those voters, Zogby said, chose Nader because of his pro-Arab stance on Middle East policy.

"There's something there (for Kerry) to be concerned about," Zogby said.

The Middle East thicket also could affect Kerry's ability to raise money. Jewish contributors have always been a staple of the Democratic donor base. With President Bush armed with a record-setting campaign treasury, any slippage in fund raising could be disastrous.

"Among the Democratic voter base for whom Israel is a seminal issue, there are many more who are writing checks to Republicans than I have ever seen," said Weiner, a Kerry supporter.

The Middle East also poses another problem for Kerry: It illustrates the criticism that he equivocates on issues.

This article requires registration. I tried the printer form, and hope the link works...it is a long article. Let me know if there is a problem, besides these newspapers gathering info on their readers!

193 AU  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:23:46pm

I know some history..do you>?
Mal-Asia (also known as bad-asia), is a little country with a majority of moonbats and a minority of non-muslim Chinese...and what a surprise...the non-muslim china men are the ones who control and drive the economy of the country while the illitarate moonbats pass legislation much like our own to help them compete against the chinese...this is a fact, now, I think I;ll have that chesterfield..

194 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:34:29pm

#154 RWC

153. I should not assign new privates to 'guard the flight line'.

We actually pulled that one a couple of newbies. "Fake alerts" at 0300 were always the best. Ah the good old days.

195 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:36:49pm
196 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:48:01pm

#195 Rayra

Please remind me never to piss you off.

Egad. Good work!

197 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:50:04pm

Chuck is a real POS.

Look at this:

3 missionaries shot dead in Iraq . . . and I don't care.

They're Baptist missionaries sent to Iraq to tell the Iraqis - who have just been bombed to smithereens by Christians, mind you - that the Arabs are a bunch of idol-worshipping heathen who'd better convert to (the Baptist brand of) Christianity . . . or else!!!

They're preaching this idiotically reactionary, colonialist, racist message in a part of the world that still discusses the Crusades like they happened yesterday, mind you.

Naive, condescending, and insulting. How do they expect their doctine to be received in a devoutly Muslim culture?

Remember that (otherwise forgettable) flick "Die Hard III" where Bruce Willis is forced to walk around Harlem with a billboard that reads "I hate ni&%ers!"

Well, at least Willis' character was forced.

Pure poison.

198 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:53:26pm

#196 Buckeye Abroad

I second that.

LMAO about the 'flight line.'

Never did military, but did some construction.

Go to HomeDepot and get a board bender etc... ;-)

199 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:54:01pm

#184 John Gibbon - I read the very funny legal stuff, then pissed away a half an hour or so reading the rest of the site. Interesting that the distillerary was started by the stepgrandfather of Jesse and Frank James.
I also noted that the "current" version of Maker's Mark is only 61 years old (for reasons best known to hisownself,
he set out to make a new bourbon whiskey and in 1943 burned the old family receipe and started out from scratch). That means Jim Beam, Wild Turkey and even Hiram Walker Ten High (the Walmart of bourbons) are all older and Jack Daniels is fucking ancient - established in 1866. Of course, the choice is all in the individual's taste.
I've tried Maker's Mark and I DO like it (pipe down, RWC, just because it's alcoholic DOESN'T mean I like it!!) but Jack just suits me better (I think Maker's Mark really expanded about 25 years or so ago when it's slogan "tastes expensive, and is" had the kind of snob appeal that was, well, appealing to many).
But whichever (I personally can't stand Wild Turkey and will only drink it with ginger ale or, yigods, coke) Jack and Makers Mark are meant to be sipped and enjoyed for their flavor and character, NOT to be chugged to get a buzz on. For THAT I drink Vodka - Finlandia, my preferred brand -usually mixed with OJ or frozen from the freezer.
All that being said, I honestly don't drink very much very often, but somtimes, well you know how it is! And, of course, I let RWC talk me into one of his silly drinking games here at LGF (the "game" was really just regular posting and discussion, with occasionally someone (glares at RWC) saying DRINK!
Wow, a long post - all this talking, er typing has made me thirsty so to you and to RWC:
DRINK!!

200 andthenblammo!  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:54:27pm

#195 Rayra:

Wow, this guy can watch "Das Boot" without subtitles!
That does command a little respect, nicht wahr?

201 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 2:57:18pm

#197 zulubaby

Exactly. Especially disgusting is the 'education' or I guess it would be indoctrination seeing as how with all his degrees and certificates my left nut is more rational and intelligent than that POS is.

202 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:02:03pm

RWC, no amount of degrees would make him a decent person. I see he came here to patronize us and then ran away. POS.

203 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:02:16pm

#195 Rayra - I second what Buckeye Abroad said and I hereby premptively apologize if I say anything that pisses you off as much as that twit Chuck did.
BTW - I teach Graduate Studies at NYU and am not one who considers teaching to be an "easy" way to make a living (first of all, if you're doing it right, you work long and hard, year in and year out, and secondly it ain't much of a living) but does your intelligence service reveal Chuck to have ever done any real work in his life?

204 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:06:18pm

#201 RWC, et al,

Man I just caught up on this Chuck fellow...he's real poison.

So I had to see if he was stupid enough to post a photo of himself online and...

Charles Hammond Jr.

he did!

I hope his son rebels against his father's poison!

205 The_New_Guy  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:08:23pm

Is anyone else besides me starting to feel like, after the news from Poland, that the Western World may actually LOSE this war against Militant Islam? Even worse, are peple starting to feel like maybe we DESERVE to?

Mind you, I'm not a leftist moonbat who thinks we "deserved" 9/11 like Comsky does, but dammit, it's starting to look like everything the Arabs say about us is true. They call us soft and lazy, without faith in anything and with no stomach for death in battle.

Now I'm watching one Western country roll over after the other and I'm starting to say, "shit, they may be right." We are NOT the generation of our parents and grandparents. As much as Republicans hated him, can you IMAGINE them running a campaign against FDR after Pearl Harbor like the one Kerry is running against Bush now??!? And what's sick is how much traction it's getting, and how ALL of Europe can't wait for Dhimmi Kerry, so they can all roll over together, and start hand in hand on the road to sha'ria.

I'm sick to my stomach now. I'm near crying. For the first time I feel like Western Culture has signed its own death warrant, and what's REALLY sad is that, the way things look now, it might just be for the best.

206 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:11:21pm

On 'Chuck'

How in the heck does one spend so much time in school? Does the man even have a life experience other than a blackboard?

I hate professional students!!! Contribution to society----ZERO!

207 Thom  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:13:47pm

#205 The_New_Guy

What news from Poland?? That, due to the pace of reconstruction, they might be able to pull troops out earlier than anticipated? That they will not back down in the face of terror? That they are committed to their role in Iraq?

Sorry, but that news does not fill me with dread for the demise of Western Civ.

208 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:14:02pm

#185 debriefed,

Hey, I'm not the one you were talking movies with...check to see who you were really addressing.

thanks

209 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:16:03pm

#205 The New Guy

Hate to say it. But it is more than likely going to get a helluva lot worse before it gets better. All the attacks so far have not had an effect on the slumber of the spineless. I don't know how many or how large it has to be to wake them up.

210 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:24:56pm

The_New_Guy, it's not great news but don't give up. I have my days where I feel overwhelmed by it all too, but we have to keep fighting -- we don't have a choice. I agree with RWC though, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

211 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:28:19pm

#210 Zulubaby,

I agree with RWC though, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

...yes, especially after those martians come get us!

...Times turn bad, and the thread starts talking about brands of bourbon...

212 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:29:00pm
213 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:31:05pm

Now what? I just saw this on Ha'aretz but can't find any links about it.

South Korea cancels plans to send troops to northern Iraq, citing U.S. pressure to participate in `offensive operations`
214 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:33:35pm
215 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:34:23pm

Did a little pissy investigation of Chuck also. So far I learned that he has been involved with:

indymedia
Democracy Now

and a lecture series in the UK entitled -'Peacemakers and Warmongers.'

I don't think we will see him again. Ya know, because of our 'neocon fascist like suppression tactics.'

216 John Gibbon  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:36:35pm

#213 zulubaby 3/18/2004 05:31PM PST

With that 'great' news, I'm going to bed


it's only a bad dream...
it's only a bad dream...
it's only a bad dream...
it's only a bad dream...
it's only a bad dream...

'nite all, hope and pray for better tomorrows, no Kerry, less 'chucks', Poland's president 'wakes up!', no martians from Mars,..etc etc, you get the picture.

217 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:37:32pm

'night John Gibbon.

Pull those sheets up nice and tight.

218 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:38:11pm

John Gibbon, sleep tight.

219 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:38:30pm

#213 zulubaby

Here it is.

Haven't read it yet though.

220 fred from AL  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:39:52pm

New Guy

For an examination of the issue - The Coming Dark Age. Not that I completely agree with the idea, but I do believe we will be sorely tested. The coming peak of oil production will be rough.

No matter what the US will remain the best place on earth to be.

We live in interesting times.

221 realwest  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:41:46pm

#205 Th New Guy - If by "we" you mean here at LGF, I assure you that we are from different generations; no we are not those who came before us; and no we are not going to let the Islamofascits win, if for no other reason than some of us will not disgrace the memory of those who came before us.
Try hard not to listen to the doomsayers. If you look at them closely - I mean CLOSELY (might want to pinch your nostrils closed when you do) you'll see that collectively, they've never really accomplished any thng positive or constructive in their lives. They live to criticize others so much that they're afraid to try to do anything positive because in the back of their minds they can hear their "friends" criticizing them.

As I said in my post at #145 -It may also help to look at it this way; AQ had a good inning; now we're up - could be a big inning for us with what's going on in Pakistan. And always remember, we're the home team, we get the last at bats.
To which I will also add: not a few of us are already experienced bat wielders with all sorts of medals, doodads and pretty colored tags to prove it.
We will win by the courage of our convictions of what's right. They will lose because they only have convictions of what is wrong.
We Will Win.

222 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:43:00pm

RWC, thanks. Things are getting stranger and stranger ...

223 Claudius  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:45:59pm

#79 lawhawk -

"Mind you that they're calling this a cycle of violence in Iraq, even though there was no precipitating act of violence on Muslims . . ."

Well, lawhawk, that's not exactly true -
AND I say that as a supporter of the liberation. But there *were* 1000s of people killed.

To refine your point, there was no violence against Muslims *as* Muslims.

224 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 3:55:34pm

#221 realwest

Great post. Now Drink.


#222 zulubaby

Anytime. And yes they are. I forgot to remind John Gibbon about the 100 foot asteroid that is gonna buzz us tonight. Ooops.

225 zulubaby  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 4:04:39pm

RWC:

I forgot to remind John Gibbon about the 100 foot asteroid that is gonna buzz us tonight. Ooops.

It's alright, because remember you told him to

Pull those sheets up nice and tight.

So he's safe.

226 Stop Hillary  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 4:08:33pm

#205 New Guy -- "I'm sick to my stomach now. I'm near crying. For the first time I feel like Western Culture has signed its own death warrant, and what's REALLY sad is that, the way things look now, it might just be for the best."

Well it wouldn't be for the best. As for how you feel, imagine how Churchill felt as the Godless Nazis swept through civilized Europe, organzing mass murder on a scale only exceeded by Soviet Russia.

For me. I don't believe in Allah. He is no god and Mohammed is no prophet. He is a fiction of a alternating sadistic/masochistic death cult known as Islam. It is a pretext for creating a male dominated dictatorial society based on concentrated wealth for a handful coupled with poverty and fear of death for everyone else. If others peaceably want to follow it, I have no quarrel. I will never kneel and bow to Allah. I will never pay taxes to a Caliphate to practice my religion and allow my children to be trained as Islamic murderers. I will spit in the eye of the Jihadi that tries to force me by violence to do so. I will not submit even if it means that only one of us can walk away. If not, I'll die spitting in his eye.

I will vote for the Candidate best equipped to make certain that I will not have to be confronted with such choices.

Who would Osama vote for?

227 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 4:12:03pm

#225 zulubaby

;-) Your right. Good to know.


I am going to go find where the other kiddies are.

Gee. Couldn't be the Bean/Zapatero thread could it.

228 from Poland  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 5:01:47pm
229 debriefed  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 5:35:52pm

sorry john gibbon, i thought you originated the post about the maccabees-- dommage, et dormez vous bien.

"chuck" is giving academics a bad name. the comment about scott ellison's parents was unforgiveable. i don't know if anyone saw my post on that thread, but i was very impressed that the southern baptists weren't going to cut and run (heard it on tvnews). would that the spaniards and the un had that kind of courage.

zulubaby, it is a strange, strange world. Dr Krauthammer agrees that the passion is a disgusting, gore-drenched, anti-semitic polemic. i may be wrong in my analysis. isn't is sad that i have this huge intellectual crush on an old jewish married guy in a wheelchair?

230 John "Hindenburg" Kerry.  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 5:41:19pm

Ladies and gentlemen, the way that things are shaping up for Hanoi John with his endorsements from France (they're totally crazy about Johnny); Spain, and "many other foreign leaders (Kim Il Jong?)"; plus his voting record; etc.. etc...

I propose a new nickname for Hanoi John (actually this is not a bad one either) : John "Hindenburg" Kerry.

Because with all the balls and chains that he's dragging along, his candidacy is going to go down in flames like the Hindenburg. Of course, the press is protecting him but there is only so far it can go.

231 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 6:14:33pm

#229 debriefed

"chuck" is giving academics a bad name. the comment about scott ellison's parents was unforgiveable.

Exactly. I get sidetracked and start thinking, oh, what he posted here wasn't so bad. Then you just hafta think what he wrote on his own blog. Fuc*ing POS living through books. F him.

232 dexter green  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 7:24:52pm

Someone probably already posted this link, but: Kerry Rejects Foreign Endorsement

Kerry said last week that he has talked with several foreign leaders who said they want him to win the presidential election in November in order to introduce "new policies."

...

“This election will be decided by the American people, and the American people alone. It is simply not appropriate for any foreign leader to endorse a candidate in America’s presidential election. John Kerry does not seek, and will not accept, any such endorsements,” [Kerry foreign policy adviser Rand] Beers said.

I would imagine that you are all as shocked as I am that John Flip-Floppin' Kerry has changed his mind on this issue.

-dg

233 isayalotofthings  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 7:36:58pm

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

SEOUL, South Korea — South Korea canceled plans to send troops to the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk ,citing U.S. pressure to participate in "offensive operations," but still plans to send the forces to help rebuild the country, the Defense Ministry said Friday.

Looks like the ROK dosent want to be anywhere near the action, anyways i could care less who wants to send troops or not. Iraq will be free and prosperus with or without the international community. All they do is needlessly complicate things.

234 Promethea  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 7:46:47pm

#205 the new guy . . .

Whenever I feel despair for the future, I try to remember this simple fact:

If the terrorists create another really horrible terroristic deed like 9-11 or worse, the American people will demand revenge, and the terrorists will be hunted down like the animals that they are (sorry, "animals" you are actually better than terrorist scum "humans).

Since 9-11, many Americans and others have rethought their views on civilization, the future, Islam, "root causes," the Democratic party, etc., and are now much more willingly to spread violence and death to those who want to destroy us.

235 Promethea  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 7:53:12pm

#221 realwest . . .

I agree with everything you said. We will beat the Islamofascists. They do not understand the power of Americans and their allies. They have seen only the tiniest amount of our real power.

Remember, folks, today's the day that Americans saw a UFO on Mars! Think about it. That's amazing technology. We often take for granted what we're capable of.

236 transferthem  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 8:01:38pm

When the final page of history is written there will be one good thing to report upon in the life of of mahatir. His death. Everything else is garbage.

237 someone  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:08:49pm
238 someone  Thu, Mar 18, 2004 10:10:45pm

JHK (#230): The question is, who's waiting in the wings to pull a Lautenberg when Kerry's balloon pops? Could it be... Ungh.

239 insomniac  Fri, Mar 19, 2004 6:19:22am

a little something about Mahathir and Malaysia:

Malaysia stands out as a hot bed of anti-Semitism. Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamed wrote a book called The Malay Dilemma which attacks the Jews (their "stinginess and financial wizardry gained them the commercial control of Europe") and a Malaysian political leader announced on "Anti-Jews Day" in 1986, " our determination is to destroy the Jews." Perhaps the most peculiar instance was the Malaysian government's refusal to allow the visiting New York Philharmonic to play Ernest Bloch's "Schelomo: A Hebrew Rhapsody for Cello and Orchestra," leading to cancellation of the Philharmonic's 1984 appearance in Kuala Lumpur.
The Politics of Muslim Anti-Semitism by Daniel Pipes, Commentary, August 1981

In 1994, he banned the Steven Spielberg film Schindler's List, on the grounds that it is "propaganda with the purpose of asking for sympathy for one race [the Jews], as well as to tarnish another race [the Germans]."
The Mahathir paradox By MICHAEL DANBY JPost.com Oct 30 2003

wrt to Schindler's List, Mahathir was too wrapped up in his Jew-hatred to realize that Oskar Schindler was a German!!

240 Alex F  Fri, Mar 19, 2004 8:00:32am
241 Alex F  Fri, Mar 19, 2004 8:02:20am

how odd, and i used the link(new) button too


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