Hamas spiritual leader

After the missle attack that's all thats left of Yassin.

Let's give these sub-human animals their own state immediately!

Orwell was a prophet. Here's your two minutes.

Ah, calm spiritual reflection based on the Friday sermons for those who follow the Religion of Peace.

/sarcasm off

Check out the cool new Zionist weapon

[Link: www.haaretzdaily.com...]

The difference betwen the West and these cavemen...

#5 hippo

Can I put one on my Amazon wish list? I know what I want for Christmas...

Let's give credit where credit is due: the Religion of Terror (RoT) has been immensely successful invading, conquering, subjugating, brainwashing, and inciting indigenous peoples for centuries. They number somewhere between 800 million and 1.3 billion bots, control 98% of the real estate in the ME and Southeast Asia, and they are PISSED!

Is it any wonder the Zeropeans are terrified?

Jihad is just a peaceful, internal stuggle.

This solitary demonstration (of 3000 people) represents a minority of adherents to Islam, which incidentally means peace.

Having said that, how can you not expect even the most peacful sons and daughters of Allah to not lash out, scream and uulate at the top of their lungs, when the criminal, Zionist, murdering, thieving, sons of pigs and apes, brutally and savagely murdered the blind, crippled, frail, squeaky voiced, elderly, quadrapaligiac, wheel chair bound, democratically elected moderate spiritual leader of an organization that builds schools, hospitals and day care centers.

/Jack Straw

/getting a little old

Ah how I long for the days when americans can peacefully burn turkish flags in the middle of the street.

Go back to your shawarma you f'in apes.

#5

I saw that on Slash Dot just a little while ago!

Please oh please give me these and fill them with this and I will be like this.

Of course, this is just a tiny, fringe group of hard-line... ahhh, you know the rest.

(#9) Me

I meant to add this to the start of the third paragraph:

"Of course Israel has the right to defend itself, BUT..."

___

I really think that is the most insidious phrase in Western politics today, because it's inevitably followed up by a laundry list of things limiting Israel's ability to do just that.

And it's all too frickin' common now.

Iraqi cleric: 9/11 was a 'miracle from God'

OT -- parts of Clarke's book we should be talking about:
On Page 127, Clarke notes that it's possible that al-Qaida operatives in the Philippines "taught Terry Nichols how to blow up the Oklahoma Federal Building." Intelligence places Nichols there on the same days as Ramzi Yousef, and "we do know that Nichols's bombs did not work before his Philippines stay and were deadly when he returned."

What are they point at? Did they hear a helicopter?

#15 Forkum

Real deal Forkum. If so, you guys kick as* !!!

And they will more than likely be allowed to join the EU if/when Jack Straw et al have their way. How can I get a Green Card?

#12 RWC:

and I will be like this.

Please note that this is not your previously-approved snickering dog image. Be more careful with this in the future.

#15 Forkum

I saw that one and forwarded it to Charles. I think it's rather interesting that he thinks 9/11 was a miracle, because from where I sit it's a miracle that we've even heard of this cleric because as a result of 9/11, the US has radically altered its foreign policy to depose despots and theocrats so guys like this can spout their garbage without worrying about being fed to the plastic shredders.

Oh, and keep up the great cartooning work!

Thanks, RWC.

Great photo. The sad thing is that the vast majority of Americans (or Euros, I suspect) never see this blind hatred in action.

"Why, I'm so busy. I guess I'll just get my little bit of news from PBS."

/a quote from one of my more "enlightened" friends.

#20 Occasional Reader

Your right. Thanks.

#22 Forkum

Not a problem. Thanks for all the laughs.

Hey is that Rachel Corrie down there!

Just another beautiful day in Mordor.

Forkum,

You stuff rocks. It sickens me that crap like Doonesbury get's wider circulation than your work.

I wouldn't worry too much about that picture. Most ecucated Turks, expecially in the army, want to strangle everyone involved in Islamism.

"A Turkish islamist leader recently complained that 'the Jews founded two countries in twentieth century, Israel and Turkey...'

The reason is the general belief that Ataturk and much of the Turkish Republican leadership were of Donmeh descent -- the Donmeh being an obscue Sephardic Jewish sect founded in the 1600's...

The Donmeh were motivated by a deep hatred of the Greeks, who conquered their holy city of Salonika and burned it to the ground, and by a general sense of Turkish nationalism. (Ataturk was a blond native of Salonika, but probably not a Donmeh...)

It is one reason why many Turks, including the ruling secular nationalists, are favorably disposed to Jews and Israel.

Another is the history of the great Khazar Empire, a huge empire of Turkish Jews that ruled much of what is now Ukraine and southern Russia for hundreds of years until betrayed by the Byzantines and the Russians.

Secular Turks constantly refer the Khazars as a Turkish Golden Age, while glowing in the reflected glory of Israeli victories over the Arabs."

The UltraModerate

Muslim culture has contributed little for centuries, says former Archbishop of Canterbury - Lord Carey.

Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, launched a trenchant attack on Islamic culture last night, saying it was authoritarian, inflexible and under-achieving.

Further into the article -

Contrasting western democracy with Islamic societies, he said: "Throughout the Middle East and North Africa we find authoritarian regimes with deeply entrenched leadership, some of which rose to power at the point of a gun and are retained in power by massive investment in security forces.

"Whether they are military dictatorships or traditional sovereignties, each ruler seems committed to retaining power and privilege."

Dr Carey said he was not convinced by arguments that Islam and democracy were incompatible, citing the example of Turkey.

He urged Europeans and Americans to resist claims that Islamic states were morally, spiritually and culturally superior.

and

Dr Carey said that moderate Muslims must "resist strongly" the taking over of Islam by radical activists "and to express strongly, on behalf of the many millions of their co-religionists, their abhorrence of violence done in the name of Allah".

He said: "We look to them to condemn suicide bombers and terrorists who use Islam as a weapon to destabilise and destroy innocent lives. Sadly, apart from a few courageous examples, very few Muslim leaders condemn clearly and unconditionally the evil of suicide bombers who kill innocent people.

"We need to hear outright condemnation of theologies that state that suicide bombers are martyrs and enter a martyr's reward."

Christians, who shared many values with Muslims, such as respect for the family, must speak out against the persecution they often encountered in Muslim countries.

"During my time as archbishop, this was my constant refrain: that the welcome we have given to Muslims in the West, with the accompanying freedom to worship freely and build their mosques, should be reciprocated in Muslim lands," he said.

How different these comments are from the silence of the present leadership of the Anglican Church over Islam and suicide bombings / terrorism.

3000? All they could get was 3,000?

OT

A fairly tasteless moment from the Presdient at the Radio and TV Correspondents Dinner a couple nights ago:

Bush's Joke About WMD Draws Criticism

Bush provided amusing descriptions of photographs Wednesday night during the annual dinner of the Radio and Television News Correspondents Association. Some showed the president in awkward poses as he looked behind furniture in the Oval Office. For those photos, Bush told the audience, "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere ... nope, no weapons over there ... maybe under here?"

Laughter erupted from the crowd of journalists, politicians and their guests then and at other times during Bush's remarks. For years the dinner has featured political and topical humor, most of it playful if barbed at times.

It's no big deal - I guess. Presidents are always self-depricating at these things, but still, this was particularly unseemly, and how could they not know it would be used against them?

It just seems like a really dumb move.

Are we tired of dumb polls yet ?

No?

Then:

An MSNBC poll

#12 RIght Wing Conspirator - BE CAREFULL!!
If you fill your these with your first this, it'll eat through your these in nothing flat.
Don't ask me how I know that, please. Kay?

#15 Forkum

On your link, Al-sadr leads the "worshipers" in chants against Israel, Jews, and America, which includes "No, no to terrorism".

This instantly reminded me of the line:

"Dat word...I do not tink it means what you tink it means." /Indigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

#31,

Like the time when Reagan said that he signed papers outlawing the Soviet Union..and the bombings were to begin in 5 min?

It was a joke...I think it was kinda ballsy that Bush could actually crack a joke about the WMD. Yes of course the LLLs and Dems will criticize it as crass and unseemingly...but everyone who was present took it as the joke it was intended to be. Just like Reagan's joke about the SU.

#29 Athos

Archbishop Carey's remarks were not appreciated by the Muslim Council of Britain.

But Muslim Council of Britain secretary general Iqbal Sacranie said: "One is dismayed by Lord Carey's comments."

"One is surprised to find Lord Carey recycling the same old religious prejudice in the 21st Century."

One is surprised to find a lot of things still practised in the 21st Century, Mr Sacranie.

ot -

This cracked me up:

Palestinians: U.S. Veto Gives Israel License to Kill
Response 1 -
Well, duh
Response 2 -
Where are the Palestinian's getting all their licenses from?
Response 3 -
All Israel did was revoke Yassin's license.

It's just too easy...

From the Times via Melanie.

#21 lawhawk
Good point. Now if we can prevent the new Iraqi government from being based on his theocratic garbage: "I seek the spread of freedom and democracy in the way that satisfies God," he said. He means sharia, of course.

#27 Dirk Diggler
Thanks for the compliment.

#34 rorschach
Good one!

(#35) Robert

Understood, but I still think it's different than Reagan's crack.

And I'm not so sure that everyone took the joke as intended.

You know, I can't think of one instance of anyone in the US burning another country's flag. Does anyone on this board remember any such incident? (Confederate not included.)

#35 and #31 - perhaps the best way to have diffused that situation would have been to show another picture with Saddam in a cell, with Bush voicing over - "Ah, there's my weapons of mass destruction."

#31 SoCalJustice - yeah, the effing New York Daily News (motto: we pimp for Kerry) had it as the front page today.
I'm voting for Bush, but he could make it an easier decision for me. It wasn't all that funny and it DID piss some people off.
Hey Dubya - you need a joke writer, a comedy maven who'll give ya some funny things to say, without pissing too many people off?
I'm avaiable and as my friends here at LGF can tell you, my sense of humor is just FABULOUS!!! Really.
c'mon folks tell him how funny I am.

(#42) lawhawk

I like that!

You should send your resume to the White House.

(#43) realwest

I just think there's plenty of stuff to joke about.

And I saw that front page this morning at a Newsstand in D.C.

Future wars are one thing.

A current war that is very controversial (and I am a whole-hearted supporter of the war) on several fronts, is another.

And to take the most controversial element of it - I'm just saying they should have known there was a potential it could backfire.

#41 nell

You know, I can't think of one instance of anyone in the US burning another country's flag.

The El Cubos like to burn that mythical country AmeriKKKa's flag sometimes.

Here's a future flag burner.A Palestinian boy rides his tricycle past Hamas graffiti in Jabalya refugee camp in the Gaza Strip (news - web sites) March 26, 2004. Palestinians accused the United States of granting Israel a license to kill by vetoing U.N. condemnation of its assassination of Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin.

42 Nell:

The Israeli flag has been quite flammable here in the US a so-called "peace rallies."

Muslim American Society should change their name to Muslim American Terroist Society.

What scumbags they are...

#39 Forkum, if you're still around, you guys are the best! People will look at your political cartoons decades later and laugh and see how right and accurate you were.

#47 J. Lichty - Sadly true, the American and the Israeli flags are burned here, and elsewhere. Great Satan and Little Satan. But you know that saying "better hated than ignored" - Pissing these people off means we're doing the right thing. When we'd start burning their flags I'd be worried, because this is an act of hopelessness.

#49 CastorOil:

When we'd start burning their flags I'd be worried, because this is an act of hopelessness.

So true.

Right after 9/11, I didn't feel the need to burn the Afghan/Taliban flag, or the Saudi flag. My moment of catharsis instead came when I saw the carriers leaving Norfolk on t.v. I'm much happier to be a citizen of a country that can actually do something about it.

#44SoCalJustice oh I lke that. Thank you so very much!
Lawhawk gets off an admittedly funny one (Lawhawk, did you post that same line on another thread? I know I posted to you that it was a really good line, but don't see my post here?).
Now for that smartass SoCalJustice - as I was saying before rudely interrupting myself, I'M the guy looking for a job at the White House as chief comedian/joke writer (see my post ##43) and YOU tell Lawhawk to send his resume to the White House! I mean, really. You've seen me post enough here to know that I can't stand ANY competition for the humor job!!!

Is it my imagination, or is Sheikh BBQ wearing a Toronto Maple Leafs shirt?

Go leafs go!

I know, let's make Turkey a member of the EU and *Nato !

*oops too late.

#29 Athos

While I agree with the majority of what the Archbishop says, . .

"During my time as archbishop, this was my constant refrain: that the welcome we have given to Muslims in the West, with the accompanying freedom to worship freely and build their mosques, should be reciprocated in Muslim lands," he said.

This is still too moderate for me.

We have been fighting these bloodthirsty savages for century after century. I say destroy the [bigoted word]s once and for all.

How many Jihads are too many?

#47 J. Litchy

The Israeli flag has been quite flammable here in the US a so-called "peace rallies."

Thank you. I apologize for the Israel flag oversight. I knew that and forgot.

#45 Ralph

The El Cubos like to burn that mythical country AmeriKKKa's flag sometimes.

I'm not quite what you mean. Please explain. Thank you.

I have a zippo and a Palestinian flag.

*Oops, my bad, it's just dirty toilet paper.

(#51) realwest

Hey, it's a dog-eat-dog world out there!

Let's see some jokes about job creation, the skyrocketing national debt, and the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and then we'll talk about an endorsement!

BTW, Cheney's the one with the good joke writers...

Dick Cheney's Gridiron Remarks

Here's a better WMD joke:

Terry Hunt of AP wants to know, "Has Senator Kerry had Botox treatments?"

Terry, I have some guidance on that from Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz:

"The Administration takes this development seriously. Botox, of course, is related to the botulism toxin, which can be processed into high-grade biological weapons. We have dispatched Dr. David Kay . . . to search for the bio-warfare agents we believe hidden in Senator Kerry's forehead. If Senator Kerry has used botox as part of a wrinkle enrichment program, he is in violation of U.N. Resolution 752. Upon receiving Dr. Kay's report, the weapons of mass destruction that Senator Kerry so adamantly insists do not exist . . . may well be above his very nose." End of statement.

UPDATE: Are you wondering what was preached in mosques around the US today? I am.

Yes, Charles,

I wonder why we don't get regular transcripts from American mosques. I wonder why we can't get our own version of MEMRI working stateside.

I don't think a Muslim CAN be a citizen or give any allegiance to any non Muslim state.

Possibly OT, but for anyone in New Jersey, where there are hordes of members of the cult of islam, and mosques sprouting up all over the place, especially the northern part of the state:

[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

Why are Jews lending legitimacy to dangerous Muslim groups?

By Joel Mowbray

Will we never learn?

Sometimes, partnering with ostensibly moderate Muslim organizations in holding interfaith events can lead to a lot of trouble and controversy if proper homework isn't done in advance.

Just ask two Jewish groups in New Jersey.

The UJA Federation of Bergen County and North Hudson and the Jewish Community Relations Council of the Jewish Federation of New Jersey had both signed on to co-sponsor an interfaith brunch scheduled for this Sunday, March 28th, which was organized by the various members of a longstanding interfaith coalition.

When a large number of members of the two Jewish groups complained, the interfaith coalition uninvited the American Muslim Union, which was one of two Muslim co-sponsors and jointly listed along with the Dar-ul-Islah Islamic Center as the event's only two hosts.

But appearances can be deceiving. ...

#33 realwest

That is good to know. I always wanted to try it. Ya know, being in my invulnerable teens and all that. Might as well do it while I am untouchable.

Between this thread and the next one, I am so effing sick of these ungrateful people. I HATE, HATE, HATE THEM! If it weren't that they'd still come after us, I'd just say to hell with them and leave them to rot in their backward society. I would have thought that after Turkey suffered it's own terror experience they would have learned something but I guess that was too much to hope.

I'm waiting for some Act of G*d, like a terrible disease or something to come along and wipe them all out (one that doesn't touch the rest of us).

The jihadis all live in caves and run around the mountains in those nightshirts they wear; when do they ever bathe and change into clean clothes? Never?

Isn't there a law of averages or something that somehow someday all this unhygeniec living and their perverted sex lives will somehow catch up to them and they all get the horrendous creeping crudliness or something and DIE FINALLY! Please...from my lips to G*d's ears!

#63

foreign devil

Hate is the mindkiller.

Muslims hate the West and all its works and unbelieving people. Us.

You have to learn about them, that's the only way to fight them. You cannot hate; you'll become like them.

#46 PDM

That kid looks like he's about the same age as your little guy. Maybe one day when terrorism is dead and gone, they'll toss around a ball together, just like little boys ought to.

/wishful thinking on a Friday

Well guess what?! Muslim American Society is now a Google News source! No, I'm not kidding. Search Google News for Bush WMD joke draws criticism and there they are.
Ugh.
I'm really starting to dislike Google News.

#64 genard

I agree and disagree. Yes, you need to learn about them. But you also need to hate them. It doesn't kill the mind, it sharpens it.

I haven't yet discounted the possibility that there's going to be a serious dustup in the US between the muslims and their backers and the rest of us.

When they stop hating me so much, I will stop hating them. Until then, I'll keep my gun oiled and stay very watchful.

I tend to agree with #67 Monsterdog.
Emphasis on their hate for us, for Israel, for the Jews in general, for the Europeans in general...

#65 QueenEsther,

That kid looks like he's about the same age as your little guy. Maybe one day when terrorism is dead and gone, they'll toss around a ball together, just like little boys ought to.

Now how is it possible to toss a ball over the Jordan River?

Thanks for the hat tip!

Every picture is angry and violent. We know how bad the Friday prayer sermons are but this week they must have been especially vicious.

Is the FBI monitoring Mosques in America?

Is it illegal?

Is it another politically correct decision not to "attack" the religion of peace?

What's going in this area, if anything?

Thanks.

#71 Skeptic

"What's going in this area, if anything?"

Oh, nothing.
Mainly cleaning guns, oiling, drying, shooting at ranges, keeping an eye on neighborhoods...the usual...

When the world war really starts. Rest content that you did your part to hasten the fighting.

Bite my splintery, wooden ass.

Speaking of humor...heard this one on the radio yesterday morning...

President Bush and the Pope were out sailing on the Potomac. A big gust of wind blew the Pontif's hat into the water. The Secret Service went to launch a dinghy to fetch it. President Bush waved them off. He steps off the boat and walks across the water and retrieves the hat and then walks back and steps back onto the boat...

The New York Times headlines the next morning reads...

BUSH CAN'T SWIM!

#69   PDM  

Now how is it possible to toss a ball over the Jordan River?

touche. Allow me to rephrase:

That kid looks like he's about the same age as your little guy. Maybe one day when the Messiah comes, Transfer occurs, and the Arab nations lift their ban on international sports competition with Israel they'll toss around a ball together, just like little boys ought to.

/still wishful thinking on a Friday (Shabbat Shalom, PDM!)

Friday sermons of hate from the Middle East are easy to find. I want to find text of sermons preached to Muslims in North America, to Muslims in the United States and Canada. Do anyone know how to find out? Do we send the Imman a self-addressed envelope with a donation the way we often do to get Christian tracts? Are there American Friday Prayers Summaries websites out there anywhere? Inquiring minds want to know.

#62 Right Wing COnspirator - please check your e-mail!

#75 MszPhit

ROFLMAO!!!

Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh!

Monsterdog,

Yes, but stronger than hate we must learn
them. The West is science, the quest for examined truth. The Muslim believer is for the unquestioned Word.

Anybody else disturbed that so much of the burning stuff was coming from the supposedly moderate, modern, secular Turkey?

"He has committed this dirty crime and killed one of the greatest of Islamic mujahedeen," al-Sadr told hundreds of worshippers at the Kufa mosque. "This was once again a dirty crime against Islam."

So now self-defense is a crime against Islam? Fighting back in a war that the Islamists started is now a crime against Islam? Hush! I know the A.N.S.W.E.R. to that.

"I seek the spread of freedom and democracy in the way that satisfies God," he said,

Mutually exclusive in that little political system called Islam. Just like the commies of old, he knows the right words to say. 'Nother "People's Republic" or "Social Democracy".

"As we say, 'The rain starts with a drop,' " he said.

Indeed; Afghanistan, Taliban, Iraq, Hussein, Yassin. Dropping like flies.

#41 Nell

Dunno bout flags of other countries but the SCOTUS interpretation of the First Amendment ensures that we'll have plenty of people burning our own flag.

#58 Martel-Sobieski

You mean like this? (patience grasshopper - slow loading)

I'm so pleased about all the 'moderate' muslims who have flooded the phone in programs and the letter pages in the west to reiterate that they don't want crap like yassin f***g up their lives and reputations. I'm sure we've all been impressed by the 'moderate' muslims...haven't we?? They HAVE been flooding the phone-ins and the papers...err...haven't they?...

#41 Nell:

You know, I can't think of one instance of anyone in the US burning another country's flag. Does anyone on this board remember any such incident?

It is an act of impotence. Rather than waste effort burning a flag, we can fire up the Stealth bombers, carrier groups, Marine Expeditionary Units, and Mechanized Infantry Divisions. Burn their damn countries and f their flag.

These terror preaching mosques are legitimate targets for JDAMs.

Kneel down and get some serious rug burn.

Then get a 72 year old virgin for your troubles.

Allah Akbar!

Do the sermons at U.S. mosques sound like the ones in Mecca, Medina, Al-Aqsa, etc.?

If so, we may want to consider, ahem, grumble, cough *rounding them up and putting them somewhere* sputter.

I didn't say that.

Well, we could make it nice. Really, a tropical resort in the Caribbean. It wouldn't be that bad. They'd hardly notice.

I'm mad, I vote, and MY country has MOABs.

85 rebmiami

If so, we may want to consider, ahem, grumble, cough *rounding them up and putting them somewhere* sputter.

How about prison?

Seriously, don't we have laws against advocating the overthrow of our government?

#86 Nekama,

I omitted a sarcasm tag, but the Caribbean resort I have in mind might seem to many to be very like a prison. It has extraterritorial jurisdiction too. Regular prison would do fine too, if we could lock em up without revealing classified information.

#60 Genard

Are you wondering what was preached in mosques around the US today? I am.

UPDATE:

Yes, Charles,

I wonder why we don't get regular transcripts from American mosques. I wonder why we can't get our own version of MEMRI working stateside.

I don't think a Muslim CAN be a citizen or give any allegiance to any non Muslim state.

Well, if the CIA and FBI are too busy going to these mosques to find people to give awards to, and the military is too busy trying to hire the radical Islamist clerics as military chaplains and the congregation as top secret intelligence analysts and linguists, maybe some of us (not me, I'm your typical blond haired gringo) may have to step up and do the "Terrorist Hunter" thing that brave Iraqi Jewish lady did. Great book.

Cheers,
REB

So sorry, #87 is me, responding to #86

Past my bedtime.
/seethe

More from the Religion of Peace.

Muslim Clerics on the Religious Rulings Regarding Wife-Beating

On pages 86-87, Mustafa states: "The [wife-]beating must never be in exaggerated, blind anger, in order to avoid serious harm [to the woman]." He adds, "It is forbidden to beat her on the sensitive parts of her body, such as the face, breast, abdomen, and head. Instead, she should be beaten on the arms and legs," using a "rod that must not be stiff, but slim and lightweight so that no wounds, scars, or bruises are caused." Similarly, "[the blows] must not be hard." [1]

Mustafa noted in his book that the aim of the beating was to cause the woman to feel some emotional pain, without humiliating her or harming her physically.

Cheers Reb. The Little Green Gang of Lizards has you and your missus in our thoughts.

#70 zulubaby

Excellent fucking link actually, I've bookmarked it, and thanks to Charles for runnning the After Friday Prayers series...quite useful in the war on evil...oh I'm sorry, war on idiocy...no, that's not kind...war on islamofascism?...nah, that's too accurate and so non-pc...

/europeon

Yes, I like to know what they're saying on Fridays. Pix are cool too.

Thanks Nekama,

that means a lot to me. The thoughts, prayers, kind wishes, and good vibes of all lizardoids are welcome.

and sorry for impersonating you, though I immediately corrected it. :)

past my bedtime but still poking around.

Everything on the home front will fall into the proper perspective and all manner of things will, I hope, be well. but it's tough. though the outlook is very very dim, we are going back on Monday to find out for sure, so perhaps there is some tiny hope.

But in the more likely event it's over, we will try again, we will succeed, we are clearly very fertile, but it is okay to be sad. We don't have to rush past it.

OT? THe other religion of peace, and a lesson of how much the world would love Israel and jews if we
gave up all forms of violence:

They `don't mix with us'

In Fennimore's lone supermarket, people in the town of approximately 2,300 complain about the body odor of the Amish, who tend to bathe infrequently. In the bars they curse about the horse droppings in the street from the buggy animals. On the roads they honk at the buggy drivers, who tend to take up quite a bit of the road while moving slowly.

"We have nothing against them, but they just don't mix with us," Napp said. "It's not like you see them at church or school or at barbecues or anything."

Sometimes animosity spills over into hate crimes, such as in northern Wisconsin, where police in three counties have been investigating several incidents since last fall of people shooting at Amish neighbors.

Harvey Jacobs, a professor of urban and regional planning at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, says despite negative perceptions, the Amish contribute far more than they receive.

"On the positive side, they take little," Jacobs said. "They take no welfare, no social services or [farm] assistance from county extension. ... The communities are mainly taking from them."

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

Charles:

Your little trade-mark symbol "tm" after every usage of the lying, conniving phrase "Religion of Peace" is an absolute riotous GEM.

How 'bout upping the ante a bit and tell the DEEPER TRUTH by nevermore using the term "Religion of Peace" and start here, now, and evermore using the most valid phrase possible:

"Religion of Death (tm)"

That is the TRUTH.

Bill from Maryland