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Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 6:23:24 pm PST

British Muslims in Derby are really really upset about plans to restore the historic Florentine Boar statue (boar==pig==haram==must destroy!), and they’ve managed to cow the city councillors into cancelling. Veiled threats were issued, as usual in cases like this: Muslims angry at plan to bring back historic statue of wild pig. (Hat tip: bull.)

FOR more than 100 years it stood proudly as the centrepiece of England’s oldest public park before being decapitated during a Second World War air raid.

Now a row has broken out after plans to replace Derby’s historic Florentine Boar statue were abandoned for fear of offending Muslims, whose religion considers pigs to be ‘unclean’.

A replica of the statue, a crouching wild boar, was intended as the jewel in the crown of a Pounds 5 million National Lottery- funded restoration of the city’s Arboretum Park.

But councillors have called for the proposal to be scrapped amid sinister warnings that the statue would be vandalised or stolen.

The Florentine Boar statue stood from 1840 until 1942 when it was beheaded by a German bomb. But it was last week branded ‘offensive’ during a meeting of Derby Council’s minority ethnic communities advisory committee.

Councillor Suman Gupta, a Labour representative for Derby’s Derwent ward, told the meeting: ‘If the statue is put back in the Arboretum, I have been told it will not be there the next day, or at least it won’t be in the same condition.

‘We should not have the boar because it is offensive to some of the groups in the area.’ The park is in an area known for its large Pakistani community.

Shokat Lal, a community leader, said at the meeting: ‘In Normanton the majority of residents are Pakistani Muslims.

‘I’m not saying we have to lose the boar, but we could put the boar in the city centre so it does not cause offence to people.’ Local historian Christopher Harris told The Mail on Sunday: ‘We are living in a multicultural society and I hope that would include English culture.

‘If the boar had never been destroyed in 1941, these people would have grown up with it and would not have noticed it.

‘Activists have jumped on the chance to make a statement. It is one that damns English culture-But the wild boar is part of Derby’s culture.’ He said a small minority of Muslims with extreme political views had issued veiled threats to the council over the statue.

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1 Powderfinger  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:26:08pm

Where's the Beef!

2 Masonic Islmazoid  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:28:47pm

The heckler's veto wins again. What a sad sad world this is becoming. Coming soon: Nationwide bans on pork, sexy dames, and ... nonmuslims.

3 fred from AL  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:30:04pm
‘If the boar had never been destroyed in 1941, these people would have grown up with it and would not have noticed it.

These people?

That's a racail slur! We demand an apology!

4 SoCalJustice  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:30:35pm
Councillor Suman Gupta, a Labour representative for Derby’s Derwent ward, told the meeting: ‘If the statue is put back in the Arboretum, I have been told it will not be there the next day, or at least it won’t be in the same condition.

Why, adherents to the RoP™ would never vandalize anything, would they?

5 Abu Oink Oink  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:31:00pm

Suddenly, all I want to do is put up statues of pigs all over the US. How 'bout some pig shaped blimps in the skies over our cities (like the barrage balloons the Brits used during WWII over London)?

6 Abu McKinney  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:32:40pm

OT: Newest Mark Steyn.

7 Norwegian kafir  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:34:10pm

You just beat me to it, Charles. I posted the link in the prevoius thread.

I suppose this is how muslims define "mutual respect"?

8 PostalWorker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:34:32pm

This makes me even more anxious to get and ride a HOG!

9 PostalWorker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:35:50pm

Why can't we launch a payload of pig shit into orbit and have it accidentally land on a certain black stone???

10 Piglet Allah  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:36:26pm

Aba dee aba dee aba dee, that's all folks.

11 Abu Oink Oink  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:37:24pm

Is it permitted to go into a crowded mosque and shout "suey"???

12 big L  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:38:31pm

Heck I'll send them 10 bucks towards restoring it.
come to think of it...as abu oink said, where are the pig dirigibles and statues??

13 Orbit Rain  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:39:25pm
Shokat Lal, a community leader, said at the meeting: ‘In Normanton the majority of residents are Pakistani Muslims.

Funny, I thought British subjects lived in Britain.

14 PostalWorker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:41:15pm

#11 Abu Oink Oink

Is it permitted to go into a crowded mosque and shout "suey"???

Only if you have a herd of hungry pigs on hand to back it up.

15 Papertiger  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:44:19pm

That barrage balloon idea got me thinking. Doesn't Pink Floyd still have their giant balloon pig sitting in a shed somewhere?

You realise that this knot of Muslims were probably very highly aware of the statue pig in the town square. They must have had tons of giggles, thinking how it got decapitated (a long standing Muslim tradition barred to them due to their being located in the Kafr Kingdom) by the hand of Allah, via their fellow jew haters from Germany.

16 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:44:50pm

Why don't you Brits grow some balls and tell these animals to shut up or GO HOME?
I get offended when I see a [bigoted word] at Wal Mart. I don't appreciate the arrogance they exhude. Why is a RoP being allowed to change an aspect of a country they didn't help build?
It's time we all said "That's ENOUGH!"

17 teacake  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:45:01pm

What doesn't offend them about western culture? They need to go back home.

18 Jheka  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:46:04pm

Don't make the mistake of thinking that this is a small matter. It is precisely these battles that must be fought and won. They are not, in the end, attacking people so much as they are attacking culture and history. They look to remake the world in the inage of their creed and part of doing that is destroying what came before. The Dome of the Rock was a sign of things to come.

19 Nekama  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:47:11pm

Get an Israeli Apache to Yassinize all statue hating jihad monkeys.

20 Paladin  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:49:54pm

Today a statue. Tomorrow a church?

21 Jheka  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:55:34pm

#17 teacake:

Their nature and the nature of their philosophy prevents them from "going back home" and staying there. Look at the history. No. Islamism, like Naziism before it, must be confronted and eradicated. We will not have peace until it is or it wins.

22 piglet  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:56:16pm

My favorite pig in Europe: THe Pink Floyd Coffee House.

[Link: www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com...]

[Link: www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com...]


[Link: www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com...]

23 Allah=Porker Pecker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:56:54pm

Ah yes, allah loves tube steak!

24 Allaah FUBAR!  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 4:57:23pm

Easy to solve this problem.

Place head scarf on head of boar statue, label it Arafat's wife

25 Nannette  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:00:48pm

#13 Orbit Rain

Most people would think that the British live in the UK, but you're wrong... walk down the Edgware Road in Central London and you think you're walking in Saudi... the women wear the full headgear and the men wear their nightdresses... they have no intention of assimilating, and in many cases, they don't want to learn English...

Obviously they're waiting for the Caliphate of Europe...

26 eieio  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:01:04pm

I'm pretty sure it would cost the Brits less to deport protestors to an Arab country than to alter the statue.

Speaking of such; I think there are lots of "angry folk" in Michigan that need to go back home to Iraq. I am highly supportive of people that want to work; but if you came here for welfare, GO BACK HOME!

27 Spiny Norman  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:06:10pm

#20 Paladin

Today a statue. Tomorrow a church?

Not so far-fetched: the recent pogrom in Kosovo resulted in the destruction of a dozen 14th- and 15th-Century Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries.

28 Spiny Norman  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:08:31pm

Oh, check that. Should have been: recent UN-observed pogrom...

29 Moonbat_One  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:09:36pm

If they dont want to be offended by un-Muslim statues, why don't they go back to whatever shithole country they came from?

30 transferthem  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:10:35pm

Put a replica of the statue in every mosque. Then they all be pigs together. Let's face it, your average muslim (and they're all pretty average) praying in a mosque spends most of teh time with his nose up the tuchus in front, so having a pig in there won't be totally out of place!

31 Infidel Pig  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:11:50pm

That statue must go up, along with a cctv system to protect it.

32 Nekama  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:11:50pm

The Brits are grabbing their ankles and begging "please don't stick it in too far, Mohammed"

Instead of Jack Straw whining against Yassin's date with the 72 year old virgin, he really needs to buck up and take a stand against those who will return us to the 14th century.

33 quark2  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:12:13pm

I read this and my patience just snapped. These shit heads come into some one else's country and then start telling them what they can or cannot do. When is someone going to have had enough and get in their faces? If they don't like looking at the boar, don't go where it's placed.
It won't be long before they start attacking the way churches look and complaining about church bells ringing and their signs they have up showing worship schedules.
Besides, the boar has seniority.

34 freedomsound  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:12:17pm

What's next?

'Velvet' toilet paper that urges consumers to 'love your bum', and G-string and bikini bottom billboards have provoked an outcry in Bradford, home to thousands of Muslims originating from Mirpur in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

..."It is not because they are near mosques and it is not just the Muslim community which is offended," [Bradford Council of Mosques President] Azam said. "They are degrading to women wherever they are located and it is sad in this day and age to find we have come so low.

...Azam's statement follows damage caused to a billboard close to a Bradford mosque that featured G-strings on four women's bottoms. Anonymous protestors have also slashed another billboard elsewhere in the city that advertises women's underwear

Underwear ads hurt Muslim sentiments in Bradford

35 m  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:14:47pm

These comments from readers are pretty digusting. Since when was Muslim synonymous with terrorist or Islamic fundamentalists.

The ignorance and religious anti-tolerance is blinding.

Grow up.

36 Nekama  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:16:18pm

35 m

Since when was Muslim synonymous with terrorist or Islamic fundamentalists.

Since Mohammed had his first wet dream about virgins.

37 piglet  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:17:21pm

The protestors should be glad they don't live in Prague in 1696.

[Link: archiv.radio.cz...]

Act of Christian-Jewish reconciliation
Three plaques were unveiled on Prague's Charles Bridge on Wednesday. In Czech, English and Hebrew they explain the Hebrew text in gold letters above the statue of Jesus on the cross. Prague's Mayor Jan Kasl, representatives of the Jewish community and the Catholic Church were present, as well as Rabbis from 31 cities in the United States and Canada. Olga Szantova takes us to the event.

A huge audience braved the midday wind and rain on Charles Bridge to witness the unveiling of the plaques and to hear the visiting Rabbis sing in praise of the event.
The statue is one of 30, mostly of Catholic saints, located on both sides along historic Charles Bridge. Visitors have always tended to wonder about the huge gold letters above the cross. If they happened to read Hebrew they knew that it says Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of the Hosts. What they did not find out so easily was why that inscription, which runs contrary to the very core of Jewish belief was placed there. The fact is that the sign was put up in 1696 by a Prague Jew, Elias Backoffen, who was forced to do so as punishment for not taking off his hat when he passed the statue of Christ on the cross. While Pragites have more or less gotten used to the site over the centuries, it has been an eyesore for many Jews visiting the city, and some Rabbis have even refused to cross Charles Bridge because of it. Putting up the explanatory plaques was the initiative of Prague's Mayor Jan Kasl, who said:

38 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:19:11pm

This is a very good thread so far and I can't really add much except to reiterate: if you don't like what you find wherever you mf's go, LEAVE.
Jheka - you are absolutley correct, as is Paladin (isn't he always?!) this IS NOT a small matter. Put it back and put ARMED security guards around it with orders to SHOOT!
Fuck 'em all!

39 ralph  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:20:52pm

#35 m

The ignorance and religious anti-tolerance is blinding.

Yes I get the same impression about Islam.

40 Thom  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:21:08pm

End mohammedan immigration now. Kick out the ones who are here.

Their presence cannot be tolerated any longer.

G-d save the Queen.

41 Thom  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:22:52pm

Ah, shit. I had hoped to check into lgf and hang out for a while, but these fuckers just piss me off too much.

Good night, all.

42 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:22:59pm

#35 m - I know this may be premature, but ts:

*GAZE*

I'm not gonna let trolls hijack another thread!!!

43 Powderfinger  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:23:33pm

#35 m

These comments from readers are pretty digusting. Since when was Muslim synonymous with terrorist or Islamic fundamentalists.

Since we read the Koran, and watched it's adherents refer to the rest of us as either property, or conquests yet to happen. So, get off the pig, and um...quit killing infidels. Then we might change our minds.

In the meantime, I'm shopping for firearms.

44 Infidel Pig  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:24:10pm

And the muslim community should pay for the cctv system itself, as a gesture of goodwill. After all, muslim spin doctors are always telling us that islam respects the traditions and cultures of other people, so here's their chance to prove it.

45 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:24:28pm

#41 Thom - if you let the trolls run you off, so to speak, you're letting them win. COME BACK, THOM!!!

46 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:24:54pm

#35 m
What are you, some kind of whining ,seething moslim?
Terrorism has many faces! When you SUICIDE bomb unsuspecting people...You might be terrorist!
When you attack a country's history and background,just because you "claim" it's offensive to your MADE UP RELIGION...you might be a terrorist!
When your wife is sooo ugly that you pass laws to keep her body completely covered...you might be a terrorist!
Anyone else have any good "You might be a terrorist" lines?

47 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:28:05pm

#46 rebTEX - no but I gotta lot of you might be a redneck jokes (courtesy of Jeff Foxworth). Want some?

48 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:29:39pm

YOU BET!
unlike #35 m, I have a sense of humor!

49 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:32:25pm

If your camel is more appealing to you than your neighbors wife sunbathing...you might be a terrorist!

50 Nekama  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:34:55pm

When you shit your pants every time a helicopter flies by...You might be a terrorist.

When you wear a ski mask on 100 degree Gaza days...You might be a terrorist.

If you can write "Sons of Pigs and Monkeys" in 16 different colors of spray paint but can't spell your name...You might be a terrorist

If you recruit retarded kids to play "I'm a Grenade"...You might be a terrorist

If you're a [bigoted word]...You ARE a terrorist

51 NY Nana  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:34:59pm

#24 Allaah FUBAR!

What did that poor statue ever do to deserve that??? Being beheaded by a nazi bomb, and now verbally assaulted by nazimuslims?

Are all the pork butchers in the UK supposed to close to satisfy the nazimuslims? BTW, I keep a kosher home, and if I touched a pig, it would not make a difference in Judaism. And to think that the Brits were the first to drop pigskins on dead muslims! PC should be outlawed.

All suha needs is a kiss from hil, and to don a designer burka, for the sake of humanity! On second thought, the frogs deserve to have to look at that face. I wonder if the poor little 'daughter' looks like her alleged Daddy? What the Egyptian arafart's squatters could do with the stolen funds that suha spends in Paris!

Can anyone Photoshop a suitable picture? :)

52 Arnold Ziffle  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:36:22pm

I have had about all the insolence I going to stand from these camel molesters. They don't know who they are messing with. I guess I can let the secret out, Hooterville is in Texas. And right after Mr. Douglas gets down from the pole, I'm calling an old friend in Washington D.C.

One honest porcine is worth a million Mohammadans. We are also better looking and smarter. These barbarians will rue the day they made me angry.

53 Geepers  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:37:14pm

rebTEX (#49),

If your camel is more appealing to you than your neighbors wife sunbathing...

Or she might just be french.

54 PostalWorker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:39:38pm

If your first chemistry lesson in school is how to make homemade explosives from ammonium nitrate and diesel, you might be a terrorist.

55 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:39:48pm

#53 Geepers
Well you got me on that one!

56 Model4  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:40:07pm
Local historian Christopher Harris told The Mail on Sunday: ‘We are living in a multicultural society and I hope that would include English culture.

That was pretty damn sweet. Expect Mr. Harris to find himself facing "hate" crimes charges though.

And no, don't protect the statue with armed guards and cctvs. Secretly station a sniper to protect them. That way any deterence will also have the effect of providing deterence at other landmarks. 'Cause you just never know.

57 PostalWorker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:40:37pm

Geepers ... I mean UGH!

58 Baldy  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:42:35pm

I don't know why, after all that Muslims have done and said over the years, but I find this so annoying. I want the Mother Country to act like an adult. Put the statue back up.

59 Model4  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:44:01pm

LOL! To rework an old classic...

Q: How many Muslims does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: That's not funny!!!

60 Infidel  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:44:23pm

Where's bigel? I'm actually in the mood for one of his rants after reading of this cowardly abortion.

61 Powderfinger  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:44:43pm

When your newest piece of apparel is probably your last, you might be a terrorist.

When Allah wants you to die, you might be a terrorist.

When your wife is required to wear a bag over her head, but you married her anyway, you might be a terrorist.

When your sister gets laid, and you've gotta kill her, you might be a terrorist.

62 Infidel  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:49:28pm

When you move to a country with the intent of destroying its culture, you might be a Mohammadan.

63 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:50:54pm

#61 PowderFinger
If you have to kill your sister because YOU did her...you might be a terrorist!
If it takes your mom AND 4 of her sisters to make a full set of teeth...you might be a terrorist!

64 okimutt  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:51:16pm

First the Zionist entity- now the Cloven Hoof entity. Are
they related? Are more out There? What about the lob-
ster with drawn butter conspiracy to humiliate the
ummah?

65 Infidel  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:51:34pm

Wups, my bad, correction: When you move to a country whose culture is superior to your own in every way, and you still want to destroy it, you might be a Mohammadan.

66 cba  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:52:37pm

This is just hysterical:

The ignorance and religious anti-tolerance is blinding.

since the topic under discussion is the "anti-tolerance" [sic] of some Muslims in Derby towards a statue.

67 cba  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:53:41pm

And I love the "you might be a terrorist" comments--very funny!

68 quark2  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:55:48pm

So on a seething/whinging meter, who is doing the most griping and complaining? The brits or the [bigoted word]s?
If the brits are not strong enough to get up and say what needs saying irregardless of how the stinking [bigoted word]s feel about it they are getting what they deserve.
If they think slinking around in silence is going to make it better it's not. It's just going to encourage the interlopers to push for further demands to be met. Maybe they need to have some of their shit pushed back into their faces. Like a resolution raising hell about noise pollution 5x a day.

69 Powderfinger  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 5:57:13pm
What about the lobster with drawn butter conspiracy to humiliate the ummah.

I want in on that.

70 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:01:21pm

#48 rebTEXAS - ok, here are a few (probably adaptable to you might be a terrorist, but I, uh, anticipated another drinking game tonight and started practice early and frankly can't be bothered trying to convert these!)

1. You might be a redneck* if you whistle through your tooth.
2. You might be a redneck if you go to a family reunion looking for a wife.
3. You might be a redneck if you work without a shirt on, and your husband does, too.
4. You might be a redneck if you think the last four words to the national anthem are: "Gentlemen, start your engines!"


*redneck is used here to mean relatively unsophisticated people, not bigots or racists. And even if some of you are feeling smug 'cause YOU'RE not rednecks, I'll bet money your family has some rednecks in it!!!

71 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:05:47pm

As I've said MANY TIMES...
Don't judge me by the color of my neck!


/ha ha

72 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:09:25pm

If you accidently catch your pants on fire while burning an American flag...you ARE a terrorist!

73 okimutt  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:12:04pm

#69- I also like the mid-Atlantic conspiracy- steamed
crabs w/ Old Bay and cold beer. On the other hand,
when will CAIR and their lackeys try to make The U.
of Arkansas Razorbacks change their "extremely offen-
sive mascot?" Or maybe the offended ones will launch
suicide attacks on a bunch of retired Redskin lineman.
Piss off CAIR- Ride a Harley!

74 Baldy  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:16:53pm

G-d help us if they ever find out Porky Pig doesn't wear pants.

75 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:17:03pm

#72 rebTEX - ok, I'm gonna try one:
If you blow yourself to smthereens while assembling a bomb because you missed the "fold tab C into slot F" part of the instructions on assembling suicide belts, you might be a terrorist.

76 Frank IBC  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:19:39pm

I remember reading somewhere that wild boar, as opposed to the domesticated pig, is actually not "haram".

@$$holes.

77 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:21:08pm

#73 okimutt LOL
I'd like to see 'em try taking out the Hogs - even as "old" as the Hogs may be.
Hey RebTEXAS - how about you might be a terrorist if you walk into a Hell's Angels Motorcylce Club meeting complaining about calling bikes Hogs?
My bad, that should be: you might be a dead mf terrorist if you walked into...

78 PostalWorker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:22:36pm

If you have Quassam missiles rusting in your yard in various states of construction, you might be a terrorist.

79 Will  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:23:46pm

Jews who keep Kosher and most Muslims will not eat pork.
English Jews, however, do not go around telling other English citizens that they can't eat pork.
Muslims, most of whom aren't even English citizens to begin with, have no problem telling other people that not only can they not eat pork, but they must not even have public artwork which deplicts a wild boar.
In other words, you must learn to hate the pig because Muslims only know one emotion- hate.
Hate, hate, hate. Is there anything else one needs to know about the core belief of Muslims?

80 bull  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:24:37pm

hat tip: cool.

but the story is terribly depressing. here's hoping the english stand up for themselves, because it's only going to get worse, and sooner rather than later...

81 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:25:13pm

Well, I see the other redneck,PostalWorker, Has made it.

82 Frank IBC  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:25:16pm

BTW, I've actually eaten Wild Boar - a flavor like a cross between pork loin and a very good beef pot roast or Sauerbraten (I had it in a German restaurant). Yum!

83 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:28:21pm

#82 Frank IBC
I must be anti-terrorist because we eat wild hogs at least weekly!
When properly prepared it is great!

84 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:32:43pm

If you have to hose off the sidewalk to change your "spiritual leaders"mind...you might be a terrorist

85 Mary  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:33:45pm

I wonder if we could smear lard on the Capitol, and
the Sears Tower, or perhaps on the outside of all
planes.
And remember the bomb-sniffing pigs in Israel?
Does anyone know how that project is coming?

86 PostalWorker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:34:06pm

*nod* rebTex

I'd rather eat wild boar than cougar for sure. I wonder what the honey glazed bacon from one is like.

87 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:36:10pm

If you're asking abuot glazed hog bacon...marvelous!
Not having any north korean in me...I don't eat cats!

88 Elle Plater  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:41:16pm

I'm sure these same people were outraged though at the actions of the Israeli ambassador to Sweden when he pulled the plug on the glorification of a suicide bomber posing as artwork.

89 quark2  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:42:01pm

We trap wild hog on our farm. It's got a great taste to it.
It's really good when smoked with pecan wood. Yum. :)

90 packsoldier  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:43:13pm

These people cannot be assimilated into Western society and it is time they were deported back to where they came from.

91 PostalWorker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:43:23pm

I ate cougar at a forest service camp. Bear is better, and that isn't saying much. Is horse clean or unclean according to islam? Of course I'd have to be starving to eat ol' Dobbin. Heh heh.

92 rumcrook  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:45:36pm
‘We are living in a multicultural society and I hope that would include English culture.

oh boy he stepped in it with that remark, tolerance never flows toward the original/majority western culture, it is a one way street. and now he must be politicaly destroyed for the insolence of believing it should go both ways...

93 Abu Oink Oink  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:52:46pm

Who wants to tell Miss Piggy she's gonna have to wear a burkha?

94 siccari lurker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:53:55pm

I feel a million man march is in the works and

"bring back the boar!"

is its mantra.

OT, wasnt the Sepoy rebellion, by muslim Indians, over the quite legitimate use of pork in the military? And how did that rebellion fair? The Brits once had the Minerals to see thing their way. Hopefully, this idiotic, yet insufferable, incident of disrespect will incite some people to their senses.

95 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:56:09pm

!!!POSTALWORKER!!!
Frence maggots ( that's pronounced mag-o) eat horses!
Also, the bear I've eaten was greasy and nasty. I won't try that again...Well, not in front of her cubs,anyway!

96 GoatGuy  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:56:18pm

Anyone have a counterpoint to this?...

The brits should simply put the porker back, and leave it there until such time as the Pakistanis raise a formal complaint.

Now let's see... instead of the ever "thoughtful" Brits preempting the supposedly incensed Pakis, for abrogations on their "cultural" sensitivities ... why not just wait it out? What will the Paki's actually complain about?

OK, so they can't -- in British society, under British laws - complain about a damned thing. BUT - they can throw paint at it, deface it, topple it over, etc. NO PROBLEM!!! Sounds like that old standby called "a Bellweather". Lightning-rod. Sacrificial Lamb.

A few well placed slow-scan high res TV cameras, and voila... a bellweather to find the local riff-raff and "smoke em out". Seems fitting that woggin' a hog would be such a convenient smoker. HAH.

Ah well, is pro'lly a stupid idea.

GoatGuy

97 Bubbaman  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:01:04pm
Councillor Suman Gupta, a Labour representative for Derby’s Derwent ward, told the meeting: ‘If the statue is put back in the Arboretum, I have been told it will not be there the next day, or at least it won’t be in the same condition.

‘We should not have the boar because it is offensive to some of the groups in the area.’

You Mr. Gupta are offensive to the community and if I had my way, you wouldn't be there the next day , or at least not in the same condition.

98 Powderfinger  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:03:47pm

#84 rebTex

ROFL!

Mmmm...bacon.

/Homer

99 Ol' Southern Boy  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:04:10pm

This article really chaps my ass.

I was stationed in the UK once; nice place, nice people. How the hell did they become such a bunch of freaking pussies?

I'm starting to think that "faster, please" is passe'. "Crusade now."

100 Abu Babboon (Drunk monkey eatin' a HAM sammitch)  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:05:36pm

#84

Awesome, this is coming from an okie. GO OU

101 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:10:16pm

#96 GoatGuy - it's not a stupid idea, it's just incomplete.
In addition to slow scan hi-res cameras they need either a few snipers or a bunch of us regular folk with baseball (sorry, Great Britain, crickett) bats. Use the cameras to tape that and broadcast it on the news every, oh hour or so.
The insolence of "these" people never, NEVER ceases to amaze me. Unfortunatley, neither does the cowardice of the Brits on their own turf.

102 Bill Jefferson  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:10:17pm

"We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile."

"We are Muslims. You will be eliminated. Your distinctive culture and superior technology upset us and must be displaced by our own. Democracy is futile."

103 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:10:36pm

/in my best Elvis voice
Thank ya ,Thank ya very much

104 Frank IBC  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:13:19pm

Sorry, I just betrayed my "Inside the Beltway" sensibilities by my assumption that my consumption of Wild Boar was somehow unique. :)

105 Frank IBC  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:15:46pm

Actually the Brits' backbone is pretty good compared to the Spaniards', these days.

106 rebTEX  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:16:36pm

Frank IBC
Hope...You've been a member of the Brotherhood and didn't know it!

107 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:21:39pm

#104 Frank IBC -"my assumption that my consumption of Wild Boar was somehow unique"

I'll bet wild boars wish it were true!!!

#81 rebTEX - I'm genuinely, deeply offended. Ok, so you didn't think my posts at at #75 and #77 were funny; regrettably some folks here at LGF are not impressed with humor either. But to say Postal Worker is the only other redneck; hey bro just cause I live and work in NYC doesn't change my Georgia and North Carolina roots. Once a redneck always a redneck.
A last final redneck joke (you can't really tell these, as Jeff Foxworthy hisownself says (he's from Georgia, too) if you ain't a redneck)

New worda in the redneck dictionary:

"Aorta" as in "Aorta cut the grass down by the playground so them kids don't hurt themselves"

"Initiate" as in "My wife ate two double cheeseburgers intiate two sides of fries."

Peace, out.

108 Amy  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:52:00pm

realwest:

And even if some of you are feeling smug 'cause YOU'RE not rednecks, I'll bet money your family has some rednecks in it!!!

How much ya wanna bet?

109 teacake  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 8:10:55pm

Every fire hydrant in England should be refashioned into pigs!

110 'Splodey Owl  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 12:20:25am

Interestingly enough, thousands of British elite are converting to Islam. It turns out some of them are turned off about the "wishy-washyness" of contemporary Christian churches. It looks like some of these elites are somewhat anti-modern and are therefore drawn to Islam, natch.

111 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 1:33:20am

Sometimes a statue of a pig is just a statue of a pig. Nobody is forcing them to pray to it.

Then again, the pig probably has more wisdom to impart to them than Mohammed did, so maybe they should pray to it.

112 Lysol  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:04:57am

#5 said ,"Suddenly, all I want to do is put up statues of pigs all over the US. How 'bout some pig shaped blimps in the skies over our cities (like the barrage balloons the Brits used during WWII over London)?"

Actually the city of Seattle did just that a few years ago.
They had a Pigs on Parade art campaign and put nearly 200 pigs all over the city.

Pigs on Parade

I've gotta do a search on the web for the "Derby Council?s minority ethnic communities advisory committee."

I could send them that link with an e-mail stating "We're coming for you, beware of the pigs!"

113 J.D.  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:46:32am

Lysol (#112)

Indeed, pigs would be a timely choice.
Instead of pigs, they did horses here a couple of years ago.

Maker's Mark logos decorate this horse whose head is dipped in red wax just like a Maker's Mark bottle.

114 Lysol  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:50:18am

I just did a little websearch and found a link to the
"Derby Culture and Prosperity Commision"

Let's all e-mail this guy at david.romaine@derby.gov.uk

Here's mine...

"Dear Mr. Romaine,

I recently read an outrageous story on the LGF newsfeed here in the United States concerning your abandonment of plans to replace the Florentine Boar. Apparently some local Muslim residents were offended by the pig. Please tell me what has happened to England? You can't even put up public art in your own country?

Here in Seattle, we have a democracy and freedom. We still have the right to put pigs up in public and in fact had a public art campaign a few years ago called Pigs on Parade.

[Link: www.pigsonparade.com...]


How long will it be before your country is ruled entirely by Shari`ah?

You should be ashamed of yourself..

Seattle Jay

115 Jiving  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:14:22am

Muslims hate pigs because they have made more significant positive, contributions to the world than Muslims.

116 JohninLondon  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:42:07am

#114 Lysol

Thanks for finding the email address for complaints about Derby's treatment of the Florentine Boar. I have emailed the City guy - implying that I am Derby resident who objects to Derby being made a joke on the Internet.


Apropos the Brits v the Spanish, here are the results of an opinion poll about reactions to terrorist threats -

"Bombers must die say Brits"

[Link: www.newsoftheworld.co.uk...]


including a lot of support for Yassin's death.

117 Thom  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:28:39am

#45 realwest

I was talking about the fuckers whining about a pig statue.

118 niall  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:57:05am

Guaranteed to ward off [bigoted word]s! Big offensiveness in a small package!

No dear Mr Historian, I'm afraid that English culture just doesn't factor into the multiculti equation. In fact multiculturalism was created not to synthesize with English or Western culture, but rather to institutionalize a loathing of it, all dressed up as enlightenment.

119 Zack  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 6:02:31am

How ironic that a culture based entirely on intolerance, slander, genocide, and forced conversion would be so hypersensitive.

By the way, barbaric idiots: Unclean to eat does not mean unclean to exist. Simple logic is still too complex for those whose minds are constantly preoccupied with fantasies of butchering, massacring, and slaughtering infidels. Pure miserable demons. Shouldn't you return to your master? Won't you be happier riding the bus system back in your eternal home?

120 dsesq67  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 6:04:17am

These "people" really need to get over themselves. Jews have resided continuously in the UK since the 17th Century and never challenged the Christian or culturally offensive aspects of British society, unless of course those things were being unfairly imposed upon them. I find it galling in the extreme that these "people" would challenge the restoration of a hog statue because it offends their holy book notions on what are clean and unclean animals. The same restrictions are set forth in the Kosher dietary laws, and I can't recall a group of Jews protesting any similar thing. It's true, the Muslims are like the Borg: You will be assimilated...and any vestiages of your culture shall be obliterated, and subsumed into Islam. The dhimmi-fication continues across Europe, and these weak-kneed morons are sitting back much like the French did when Hitler decided his troops should take a stroll through the middle of Paris. Disgusting. These European appaesers have learned nothing from their own sorry history, nor how to properly assimilate different cultures into greater European society, unless of course surrendering to the minority (tyranny of the minority?) is their answer to assimilation. Again, disgusting.

121 J.D.  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 6:19:43am

Fouad Ajami:

... Whatever political architecture Europe seeks, it will have to be built in proximity to the Other World, just across the Straits of Gibraltar and in the grip of terminal crisis. There is no prospect that the rulers of Arab lands will offer their people a decent social contract, or the opportunities for freedom. It is a sad fact that the Arab peoples no longer make claims on their rulers. Instead the "drifters," such as the embittered terrorists who blew into Madrid, now seek satisfaction almost solely in foreign lands.

You can't agitate against Mubarak in Cairo, but you can do it from the safety of Finsbury Park in London. The ferocity of the debate in the Arab world about France's decision to limit Islamic headgear in public schools is a measure of this displaced rage. Spain may attribute the cruelty visited on it to its association with America's expedition into Iraq. But the truth is darker. Jacques Chirac may believe that he has spared France Spain's terror by sitting out the Iraq war. But he is deluded. The Islamists do not make fine distinctions in the bilad al kufr. ...

The Moor's Last Laugh - Radical Islam finds a haven in Europe.

122 Mike Boelter  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 7:15:25am

RE: 59

How many Muslims does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

None. Candles were good enough for Mohammed the Prophet of the true God, blessed be his name, they are good enough for all good Muslims and kafir.

123 FabioC.  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 10:06:00am

I often eat wild boar: there's a lot of them in the Appennini mountains of Italy, and my father is a hunter (he uses 12-gauge twin barrel rifle and lead slugs, for those interested). Usually we make a casserole of it with finely chopped vegetables. Also, you can eat fried wild boar's liver or kidney.

I asked a Moroccan acquaintance wether wild boar is halal or haram, and he said it's haram.

124 bigel[deleted]  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 10:52:37am
125 rebTEX  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:13:01pm

#123 FabioC.
We eat our boar FRIED! All of it.
Also,
I thought a haram was a bunch of chics laying around the tent, waiting for their man to get home!?

126 rebmiami  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 7:02:26pm

#71 rebTEX,

If you accidently catch your pants on fire while burning an American flag...you ARE a terrorist

Right. You must have been evoking this old classic.
Check this out.
Everyone remember this?
setting yourself on fire because you are a terrorist %$&*@

112, 114 Lysol

"Pigs on Parade"

LOL!!! Seattle may be LLL but it hasn't actually handed the keys to the enemy yet!!!

127 FabioC.  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 12:01:21am

#125

Well, our boars are definitely different from pigs: smaller but stronger, with a much leaner meat.
I guess it would become too dry on frying - and also, it's not italian tradition to fry meat.

Haram means prohibited, unallowed, impure; in opposition to Halal, that is allowed, pure.

The bunch of wives is Harem, but I guess there is some Arabic-English transliteration problem for these words.

128 Greg  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 3:50:50am

If the Brits in Derbyshire roll over for these Islamofascists, they deserve the beating they will get.

No European has the balls anymore to confrom the RoP (tm). This is what happens when you lose a certain percentage of good genetic material from two world wars, give up Christianity, adopt socialism and butt-f*cking and you have a Europe ready to be slaughter by 7th century Islamic hillbillies.

I think I will email Mr. Romain in Derby...afraid I won't get an answer.

129 PDM  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 4:02:14am

Perhaps doing nothing to the Florentine Boar would represent a nice multi-culti compromise.

The body of the boar can represent the English history, and the fact that it's decapitated can be a tribute to Islam.

Okay, maybe not.

Here are a couple of nice pages about the Florentine Boar:
[Link: www.derbyarboretum.co.uk...]
and
[Link: homepage.ntlworld.com...]

And here is my modest suggestion of the redesign of the boar to meet everyone's cultural needs.

For all I care, the Muslims can kiss this.

130 Greg  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 5:22:05am

That is a very nice little statue and the park from the postcards look civilized.

Such a place under enlightened RoP (tm) would not exist and would be replaced by scorched earth, a soccer ground where women are stoned...

This is the choice...civilization or back to the 7th century...personally I want to go to the stars in starships this century but will probably have to fighting the 7th century Borg/Islamic Hillbillies to save our planet!!

Remember RoP (tm) means not PEACE but SUBMISSION.

131 Kingstonian  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 6:57:45am

It is somewhat excessive to call the people behind the anti-boar campaign 'dhimmis' - the local press described it as plain political correctness. If this stood to offend black people or any other ethnic or religious group, they would have objected. From an editorial in the Derbyshire Evening Telegraph:

The majority of Muslims can see the stupidity of this decision just as much as anyone else. They have been left frustrated and upset at being cast as the villains ... A patronising effort to 'protect' Muslim sensibilities has backfired in spectacular fashion.

See [Link: www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk...]

By the way Suman Gupta doesn't sound like a Muslim name - I suspect he is a Hindu. Even so, it's reasonable to object if an offensive statue is put up in one's neighbourhood.


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