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Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 8:39:00 pm PST

Get a load of the utterly outrageous bias in the caption of this AP photo, showing Australian Muslims mourning the execution of a mass murdering terrorist:

Members of Sydney’s Muslim community hold posters of murdered Palestinian Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin as they pray before marching through the center of Sydney to condemn the killing, in Sydney, Sunday, March 28, 2004. The peaceful march was also to voice their anger at the brutal murder of Yassin and to call for ongoing and a peaceful resolution to the situation in the Middle East. (AP Photo/Mark Baker)

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1 Barbara Skolaut  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:42:40pm
The peaceful march was also to voice their anger at the brutal murder of Yassin and to call for ongoing and a peaceful resolution to the situation in the Middle East.

"Brutal murder?" What a crock.

Stuff a sock in it, you traitorous wankers.

Any chance you've like to follow in your hero's footsteps?

2 militarybrat  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:44:20pm

I know it says "peaceful march", but that is usually a euphamism for "well, no one actually died THERE."

Any reports on the actual activities? Anyone knocking old ladies down and running over them? Windows smashed?

3 Zwicker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:44:31pm

This ranks up there with the headline in the Detroit Free Press yesterday in an article about the Palestinians using that kid the other day for a bombing. The headline read something like this:
Use of Children in Suicide Bombings Pushes Limit

I guess killing children with suicide bombs is within the limits.

4 Happy4LA  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:44:53pm

Where's the reaction to Kid Dynamite? People talk andwrite about the "Root Causes" of terrorism. How about STUPIDITY? That seems like a good one to me. Even those that aren't oppressed in totalitarian countries mourn the loss of murderous vermin. Unreal, again.

5 SoCalJustice  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:45:50pm

Ah yes, the brutal slaying of an elderly, frail, blind, quadrapaligiac, wheel chair bound, moderate Islamic spiritual leader.

I've heard now that he's gone, all that's left of Hamas are the extremists.

For shame. Now they'll probably even be against peace with the Zionists.

6 Scooter McGruder  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:48:31pm

Hmmm. Killing is an act, while murder is a crime. I guess Israel has tried in absentia and found guilty in the court of AP.

I had no idea the AP had such wide-ranging jurisdiction!

7 facts of life  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:50:03pm

Can something be done about AP - Associated Palestinians? Why should they get off scot free with such blatant bias?

8 aaron  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:50:53pm

Brutal my ass. It was a good clean hit. From the look of things the top of his skull went straight to heaven. As for the rest of him...

9 Yehudit  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:50:57pm

Update on York U, via email:

I just spoke to Talia at York U. who told me that as a result of outrage by Jewish communities and other steps, Hillel was reinstated on York campus.


More to come.

Plus, the SF Jewish community seems organized: several pro-Israel op-eds in the SF Chronicle plus 2 letters to the editor on the boy sent to blow up the checkpoint.

10 tsu  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:51:03pm

The word "horseshit" comes to mind when I read about people lamenting the demise of that poor, crippled, decrepit terrorist.

Give me an effing break.

11 big L  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:52:15pm

who does all that neat printing on what looks to be a cut-out sheik pic? Prob not a printer from their world,huh?

12 Bubbaman  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:53:10pm

Notice that they are holding pictures of Yassin over their d*cks? I guess that's where a bunch of as*-holes belong.

Though, the Shiek would make a good match with St. Pancake - in all dimensions.

13 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:54:10pm

Brutal murder?? The sucker was GONE before he knew it - he didn't "suffer" the way he should have.
When the auditors get done with the UN/Iraq kickback situation, I wish they audit AP - I'll bet my own money (and I'm not a gamblin' man that we find our "friends" the Saudi's have enormous control/ownership of AP.

14 Ed Moran: Abu 'Hasof bah'  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:56:39pm

Is this the last thread of the night? Will all the cool people hang here tonight?

SNL is a re-run, again.


Wouldn't be so bad, if the rerun wasn't only a month old.


I'm glad the AP just gives us the facts, ma'am.

15 USF  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:57:23pm
the brutal murder of Yassin...

Strewth, I think the Aussie 5th column have roos loose at the upper paddock, mate...

16 militarybrat  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:57:24pm

When will the billboards with a picture of this waste of space surrounded by some of his victims and the title "murderer" show up?

Oh, I'm sorry, that's RACIST. But killing Jews is peachy keen because they asked for it.

Garrr!

I'm going to pay more attention to A Knights Tale, which we are all watching right now. This idiocy of making a martyr out of a baby murderer is raising my cancer risk to entirely new levels.

17 Spiny Norman  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:57:25pm

Brutal? Brutal, my ass! The bastard got off easy: he never knew what hit him.

#6 Scooter McGruder

Killing is an act, while murder is a crime. I guess Israel has tried in absentia and found guilty in the court of AP.

Are we surprised?

18 militarybrat  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 6:59:41pm

And where the farg were the people marching carrying Daniel Pearl's picture in Pakistan? HUH?

I was watching the movie, but it cut to a commercial for Brother Bear. , and now half naked guys drinking cranberry juice.

20 Right Wing Conspirator  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:08:15pm

#18 militarybrat

Woo hoo !! An excuse to post some more pics :-)

What does Lil' Fighter Pilot Princess think of this girl.
(if she says she is cuter than my dog, I don't want to hear it. ;-)

ps - she is only about 15 months now. Damn they grow quick.

21 Nim Chimpsky  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:10:36pm

Here we go again with the blind, crippled cleric mantra. One wonders what AP would have said about Hitler after the assasination attempt by von Staufenburg, maybe, "partially paralyzed and ailing German leader shaken by surprise murder attempt?"

22 Ed Moran: Abu 'Hasof bah'  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:14:33pm

I saw somebody else on another thread mentioned it, but Debka says Hamas HQ in Damascus ordered, via Hezb'Allah radio, that Hamas in Gaza attempt single wave of many suicide attacks simultaneously in Israel. Debka also says Hamas, Hezb'Allah and Al Qaeda are indeed working together planning terror attacks in Israel.

23 Abu Babboon (Drunk monkey eatin' a HAM sammitch)  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:16:45pm

#11

No it was not one of the paleosimians printers as there are only 3 and they only use crayons.

24 Paladin  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:19:29pm

Since when do six people constitute a "march?"

25 ted  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:21:52pm

"He (the boy) was playing near the window," the boy's mother, Lina, said. "Suddenly, I heard shooting, and saw my boy drop from the sofa to the ground. I saw the (army) jeep from the window. The jeep was 10 meters (yards) from the house." Video footage showed a line of jeeps being pelted by stones as troops drive through one of the camp's alleys. At one point, a bullet hits the top right fender of the lead jeep, and moments later, screaming is heard and several people carry a boy into the street.


A militant also was ripped apart when explosives blew up prematurely in his car on Friday in Balata.


Hamas on Friday delivered new warnings of retaliation for Israel's killing of its leader. But Hamas and other militant groups have had trouble carrying out the threats.


Soldiers foiled a seaborne attack on a Jewish settlement in Gaza Thursday night, shooting dead two attackers who emerged from the Mediterranean in wetsuits and flippers.


Earlier in the week, soldiers stopped a 16-year-old Palestinian, Hussam Abdo, with a bomb vest strapped to his body at a crowded West Bank checkpoint, setting off a tense encounter with soldiers.

TOUGH WEEK FOR PALEOS

26 Elle Plater  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:23:08pm
and to call for ongoing and a peaceful resolution to the situation in the Middle East

Meaning, if the rest of the world just helped in preventing Israel from defending herself we could peacefully exterminate the jews.

27 militarybrat  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:26:19pm

RWC:

I should actually have the Princess Fighter Pilot in bed right now, but she is being quiet and sweet, so I'm letting her stay up. I swear, her reactions to your dogs lower my blood pressure by the tens. It's so cute!

quark2 emailed me some pictures of her foals. PFP wouldn't even let me erase them from the computer. I sense an animal lover...

28 realwest  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:31:29pm

#24 Paladin - since the AP says so!!! See my #13.
Those mfs.

29 Connecticut Yankee  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:34:58pm

A column by Prime Minister John Howard over at OpinionJournal: "Stand Firm: Australia's government is committed to finish the job in Iraq."

[Link: www.opinionjournal.com...]

30 Kix  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:38:03pm

Outrageous. The only thing more despicable would be the murder of Bin Laden.

What the fuck is this world coming to. I have never been much into guns, but I am seriously thinking about getting one, because when the shit hits the fan here I am going to start blasting.

31 Max Darkside  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:41:47pm

Maybe we should do an email and phone campaign to the AP every time they blatantly distort/judge/convict. Maybe the silent majority needs to speak up.

The Associated Press
Headquarters
50 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, N.Y. 10020

Main Number
+1-212-621-1500

For general questions and comments;or to contact a specific employee: info@ap.org

32 Frank IBC  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:42:12pm

#12 Bubbaman -

Yes, I noticed that too. Verrry interesting.

33 Alexis Z  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:46:11pm

Remembering History, Part 1

Palestinians Threaten Worldwide Attacks on U.S.
By MICHAEL GOLDSMITH, Associated Press Writer

February 5, 1986

Passengers on U.S. and Israeli commercial airliners risk becoming targets of reprisals for Israel's interception of an Libyan plane, a group of six hardline Palestinian movements said Wednesday.

"From this day on, we will not respect civilians who take such planes," said Ahmed Jebril, head of the Libyan-backed Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command.

"With yesterday's (Tuesday's) hijacking, Zionism and America declared war on us in the true sense of the word," Jebril told a news conference.

"We feel we have the right to retaliate as we see fit. It is true that we have neither radar nor a navy nor airplanes, but we just ask you to transmit our warning to the entire world" not to board American or Israeli planes.

Jebril declined to elaborate other than to say the threat was a joint decision of the six Palestinian movements, all of which bitterly oppose Yasser Arafat's mainstream Palestine Liberation Organization.

The five other movements represented at the news conference included Abu Nidal's Fatah Revolutionary Council, George Habash's Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Arabi Awad's Palestine Communist Party, Abdel-Fatah Ghanem's branch of the Palestine Liberation Front, and Abu Moussa's Fatah Provisional Command.

Habash's and Jebril's groups are among the eight guerrilla factions that comprise the Palestine Liberation Organization. But like the others at the meeting, they have denounced Arafat as being too moderate.

The Palestine Liberation Front also is a PLO faction, but it is splintered three ways and Ghanem heads an anti-Arafat wing.

Abu Nidal, whose group is blamed by the United States for the Dec. 27 Rome and Vienna airport attacks, and Abu Moussa broke with Arafat's mainstream Fatah and operate outside the PLO umbrella.

Representatives of the six groups attended a meeting in Libya's capital this week at which participants threatened to strike at American interests "within the United States and throughout the world" in the event of a U.S. attack on Libya or any other Arab country.

Abu Moussa did not take part in the meeting earlier in the week. His aides said he was seriously ill at an undisclosed location in Tripoli, but they gave no details. Libyan officials refused to comment.

Jebril alleged that the CIA and the U.S. Sixth Fleet collaborated to guide Israeli jet fighters to the Libyan executive jet that carried a Syrian delegation returning to Damascus from the Tripoli conference on Tuesday. U.S. officials have denied there was any American involvement.

The nine Syrian passengers on the intercepted plane included Abdullah al-Ahmar, deputy secretary general of Syria's ruling socialist Baath Party. They were questioned by Israeli intelligence agents at a military airfield in northern Israel, then allowed to go on to Damascus in the same plane.

The six hardline Palestinian movements who issued Wednesday's threat are known to receive heavy subsidies from Libyan leader Moammar Khadafy. They also are backed by Syria.

34 PostalWorker  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 7:54:58pm

Charles, c'mon that *can't* be AP's caption ... that would mean AP is reporting their *opinions* of the news and not simply the *facts*. Geez, ye of little faith.

/sarc

35 jimmytheclaw  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 8:01:24pm

on the subject of australia seems they are starting to get it read this pdf i found on dhimmi watch

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

soon islam in australia will be dealt with as a political ideology not the rop

36 Dead Ed  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 8:06:11pm

Here's an article from down here in Perth (Oz).

[Link: news.ninemsn.com.au...]
---

Australia out of step on Yassin's death

The Australian government's failure to condemn Israel's assassination of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin was shameful and out of step with international opinion, a rally in Sydney was told.

About 200 people gathered in Hyde Park to show support for the Palestinian cause and voice opposition to Israel's attacks in the occupied territories.

Yassin, the wheelchair-bound spiritual leader and founder of Hamas, was gunned down in an Israeli air raid as he left a mosque in Gaza City last Monday.


The international community condemned Israel for the assassination and tensions in the Middle East have escalated in preparation for the Palestinians' retribution.

Greens senator Kerry Nettle told the rally the federal government had failed its international duty by not immediately condemning Israel's attacks.


"It's a shameful act that the prime minister did not condemn these acts," Senator Nettle said.

She said the prime minister should have immediately condemned the violent assassination and made the government's position clear to Israel and the United States.

"Where is the voice of the Australian government," she said.

A spokesman for Australian Muslim leader Sheikh Taj Aldin Alhilali urged protesters to remain peaceful and asked that they not burn flags.

The president of the Lebanese Muslim Association Khaled Alameddine told the rally Australian Muslims wanted to show their support for their Palestinian friends.

"Brothers and sisters, we are here today to stop the aggression. Blood won't bring peace, so please have mercy on the innocent people," he said.

The protesters later walked to Sydney's Martin Place where the United States Consulate is housed.

©AAP 2004

---You might recall that when W visited Canberra last year there were 2 of our politicians who pulled publicity stunts and started shouting out Bush in the middle of his speech. Sen Kerry Nettle was one of those upstarts. The other was Bob Brown the leader of her party the Greens

37 Maine's Michael  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 8:15:19pm

"Yassinate", "Yassinated"

Def'n: To lose the top of one's skull; to lose the contents of one's skull; to have the top of one's skull removed; to have an unroofed brain; to undergo violent lobotomy; to have one's jew killing abilities terminated with extreme prejudice.

"Yassinatophobia"

Def'n: Psychological malady of early 21st century palestinian leadership.

38 Elle Plater  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 8:16:12pm
39 Ed Moran: Abu Adolescent (Horny, with Zits)  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 8:36:03pm
40 sweetpea  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 8:57:07pm

funny how the pic doesn't show the faces of the dickheads holding these posters... you'd find that they're the usual suspects...

41 rastajenk  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 9:08:21pm

It was brutal. Deservedly so.

42 Clem Snide  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 10:06:11pm

It's just worth mentioning that on Friday here in Sydney we had a rare taste of English style football violence at a major rugby league match on Friday between the Sydney Roosters and Canterbury Bulldogs. The Bulldogs are based in prime death cultist territory, and are currently in big trouble over pack rape allegations involving several players. After a Bulldogs try was disallowed by the video referee, the death cultists at one end of the ground began picking fights with Roosters supporters, which eventually turned into a major brawl. The vermin also started hurling full bottles and cans at rival supporters and players on the ground, and breaking seats. This held up play for a while. The final, richly deserved score was 35-0 in favour of the Roosters.

While we have seen football violence here in the past, it was mainly during soccer matches between the ethnically based soccer clubs, and mainly involved Balkan scum. Good to see that death cultists are enriching our culture.

43 mojo  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 10:17:59pm

My favorite, overheard at a local watering hole:

"He done killed a lotta people, and now he's dead.
Fuck him."

44 transferthem  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 10:18:30pm

I see that none of our media outlets has mentioned the overwhelming nazi arab and muslim element in the Bulldogs off field violence. I wonder why.

It is clear to me that the muslims in this country are, like their fellow nazi deathcultists in other democracies, a vile infection in a civilised society. And they are aided and abetted by the left. Where are the feminists who bleat about glass ceilings in corporations but ignore the foul way nazi death cultists treat their own women? And how does a violent bunch of terrorists supporting swill enrich our 'multicultural' society. They should be deported forthwith.

On a more optimistic note, we had about 10-15,000 out ofr the last pro Israel rally, not the pathetic 200 lumps of doggy do who are out there supporting a genocide murderer. May Hashem treat them to what they deserve.

45 transferthem  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 10:22:20pm

Just a thought. Why ar the muslim doggy do's holding the evil excretia's picture in front of their private parts? I'm sure there is a subliminal message there, probably involving sheep and arab sexual proclavities...

46 News  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 10:37:46pm

Nablus - Israeli soldiers respond to stone throwing youths with live fire - killing a 7 year old boy.

47 A  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 10:44:40pm

#42


While we have seen football violence here in the past, it was mainly during soccer matches between the ethnically based soccer clubs, and mainly involved Balkan scum. Good to see that death cultists are enriching our culture.

which culture? Australian culture or jewish culture...

oh, and "Balkan scum" - just a little racist don't you think?

48 Deathberg  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 10:52:18pm
Nablus - Israeli soldiers respond to stone throwing youths with live fire - killing a 7 year old boy.

Oh well. Stones one day, grenades the next. With the Palis, that's the one thing you can be sure of.

49 Clem Snide  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 11:03:41pm

A(rab):

Australian culture. Not muslime culture. That was a sarcastic remark, arab, I was just pointing out that muslimes have contributed nothing but disease to Australian culture. Irony is clearly beyond you. As for "Balkan scum", no that was not a racist remark, just an empirical observation. The Balkans do produce a lot of scum (I'm sure David Hookes would agree), though admittedly they're not as bad on the whole as muslimes.

50 Yadda  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 11:08:31pm

#47

Clem Snide, Im pretty sure as Jews 'ethnically based' would include ourselves also. and there are also Jews in the Balkans.

51 A  Sat, Mar 27, 2004 11:20:03pm

It is you have not understood Clem. Im not an A(rab) but an A(ustralian), fool!

as you represent jewish culture, it is not your culture [you wrote "our" culture] which is as you stated, 'enriched' or diseased as I had already understood the sacrasm, but Australian culture.

oh, and you are rather racist siting 'balkan scum' and assuming that any opinion contrary to seeing ALL peoples of the Balaknas of scum must be Arab. hahaha

I am fifth generation Australian!! and as a true Aussie of Australian culture I am against racist comments such as "Blakan scum"... It is you which 'enriches' (ie ficks up) MY culture with such racist attitudes!!

52 Andjam  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 12:05:59am

The fifth column isn't just (some) Muslims, but leftists (Kerry Nettle is a dhimmi).

Some better news: Amongst people supporting the US's invasion of Iraq were Arabs, some of whom presumably were Muslims.

There may be an "us" and a "them", but it ain't along racial/religious lines.

53 norar  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 12:08:11am

It certainly looks like "Members of Sydney’s Muslim community" have Yassin in the place where a dick is due. Can it be a represention of all this Islamaniacs business as such - terror as the refuge of emasculated men? ... 72 virgin and all ...

54 dee  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 12:17:04am

This was how the Sydney Morning Herald reported this gathering of terrorist sympathisers. Two points:

The SMH is the voice of the left and very anti-John Howard.

There were only 300 people in attendance - maybe less, taking into account the sympathy of the SMH reporters for the pali cause. I notice that the report linked by a previous poster gives the number as 200.

[Link: www.smh.com.au...]

Marchers condemn Yassin assassination
March 28, 2004 - 3:44PM

Australian Muslims today urged the Federal Government to condemn the assassination of Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin as hundreds rallied in Sydney to show their support for peace in the Middle East.

About 300 people gathered in Hyde Park to show support for the Palestinian cause and voice opposition to Israel's attacks in the occupied territories.

Carrying Palestinian flags, placards and pictures of Yassin, adult community members were eager to ensure younger protesters did not burn flags or incite violence.

Chants of "Free, Free Palestine", "Sharon is a butcher" and "Shame, Shame USA" echoed around the city as the demonstrators marched from Hyde Park into Martin Place and back again.

The event began with prayers and then speeches from Australia's Mufti, Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali, Greens Senator Kerry Nettle and event organiser Lebanese Muslim Association president, Khaled Alameddine.

Sheik Alhilali joked that he would not speak for his community, pretending instead to translate what a little girl alongside him said - a jibe at recent media coverage which he said misquoted him.

Referring to notes, he said: "[Israeli President Ariel] Sharon is the biggest, most evil terrorist in the world.

"Those who support him are just like him. The time has come for Christians and Muslims to unite against Zionism and racism."

Senator Nettle told the crowd the Australian Government's failure to condemn Israel's assassination of Yassin was shameful and out of step with international opinion.

Yassin, the wheelchair-bound spiritual leader and founder of Hamas, was gunned down in an Israeli air raid as he left a mosque in Gaza City last Monday.

"It's a shameful act that the Prime Minister did not condemn these attacks," she said.

Senator Nettle said the Prime Minister should have immediately condemned the violent assassination and made the Government's position clear to Israel and the United States.

"Where is the voice of the Australian Government?"

Mr Alameddine told the rally Australian Muslims wanted to show their support for their Palestinian friends.

"Brothers and sisters, we are here today to stop the aggression," he said.

"Blood won't bring peace, so please have mercy on the innocent people," he said.

The protest did not, as had earlier been planned, stop outside the American Consulate in Martin Place.

Rather, protesters were kept moving in a bid to ensure passions did not escalate into violence.

In a poignant and coincidental conclusion to the march, protesters walked past the Salvation Army band playing Louis Armstrong's What A Wonderful World as they re-entered Hyde Park.

AAP

55 Andjam  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 12:43:12am

In a poignant and coincidental conclusion to the march, protesters walked past the Salvation Army band playing Louis Armstrong's What A Wonderful World as they re-entered Hyde Park.

The same music played by Mike Moore as planes hit the Twin Towers in "Bowling for Columbine". (how come he didn't get accused of exploitation? Life's little mysteries)

56 David 'Parisian Insider'  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 12:46:11am
Blood won't bring peace, so please have mercy on the innocent people

Bar when they are bloody kufr:
South Sudan
Kashmir
Philippines
Copts
Nigeria

57 Okie Dokie  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 12:52:39am

Apparently they couldn't spell "brutal murder of terrorist mastermind".

58 Monco  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 12:59:30am

what a wonderful world was put to much better use at the conlcusion of the television version of hitch hiker's guide to the galaxy

59 Elkajim  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 1:52:30am

According to the news the 6 year old killed by Israeli soilders was in his own home!! When the conflict is right out side your door it's hard to avoid.

But it is looking like it was a ricocheting bullet not direct fire


[Link: makeashorterlink.com...]

60 JohninLondon  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:32:43am

The dreadful incidence of crime, poor education record and general failure to assimilate among the Muslims in Australia suggests that it is sensible to resist any further immigration from their countries until present social problems are resolved. So many of these people are dragging Australia down that it is unwise to risk taking any more.

The same applies to the UK - drug problems, aimless unemployment and rejection of UK values are a serious problem among Pakistani communities in Britain. It is way past time for them to sort out their own seething and whining problems.

61 zulubaby  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:35:59am

Elkajim (#59)

According to the news the 6 year old killed by Israeli soilders ...

Actually, the boy was killed by the Palestinians. I hate the media.

62 zulubaby  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:38:01am

Elkajim, um, did you not read your own link or what?

63 zulubaby  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:41:14am

News (#46)

Nablus - Israeli soldiers respond to stone throwing youths with live fire - killing a 7 year old boy.

Another genius. Read the news, News, the boy was killed by Palestinian gunfire, not Israeli.

64 Ed Moran: Abu Adolescent (Horny, with Zits)  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:41:52am

Zulubaby just dragging herself in from the clubs at 4:30 AM?


If you're still awake, drink a tall glass of water and take two aspirin or ibuprofen. Don't take Tylenol Acetaminophen can cause liver damage when alcohol is present in the system.

You're Welcome.

65 zulubaby  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:45:08am
Don't take Tylenol

Now you tell me, I just took two Tylenol, literally a minute before I read that! Oh man. Alright, I'm going to sleep now.

66 zulubaby  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:46:03am

I'll drink water and then sleepy. Night.

67 Ed Moran: Abu Adolescent (Horny, with Zits)  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:47:10am

For future reference, alcohol and Tylenol shouldn't mix.


If you're not blasted out of your skull (sorry) then I'm sure this one time Tylenol indiscretion will cause no serious harm.

68 Ed Moran: Abu Adolescent (Horny, with Zits)  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:47:48am

Back to bed myself.

69 Baldy  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:49:49am

OT: Pakistan to Install $6M Container Scanners (Daily Times, Pakistan)

The scanners are being installed to address the security concerns of foreign buyers. The number of scanners will later be increased until all containers holding goods can be scanned,

OT: Musharraf Vows to Rout Terror: No Issue of Muslims or Non-Muslims (Dawn, Pakistan)

"There are people who are carrying out terrorism, whether they are Muslims or non-Muslims, that is not the issue at all...As a result, he regretted, the vested interests are trying to create a divide amongst people, "divide of weak Muslims and better Muslims".


OT: Rawalpindi: 4 of a Family Killed [By a UN Jeep] (Dawn, Pakistan)

70 bailodor  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:08:56am

Keep in mind that Senator "Nutter" Nettle is a member of "BendOver" Bob Browns Greens.
This is what Andrew Bolt had to say about these "wanna be " hippies.

Check out their vision of "A brave New World".

Greens really are on the nose
By Andrew Bolt
23nov03

I WOULD like to think the Greens flopped in last week's poll because voters were finally told about their mad policies. I mean, how about a "non-violent" civil defence force?

How about helping people to take more drugs for "personal fulfilment"? Or paying loafers who refuse to work?
It staggers me how little interest journalists have shown in the true aims -- the frightening aims -- of a party with so much influence.

Just as well for Greens leader Senator Bob Brown that no reporter is rummaging in his policy drawers. Instead of being dismissed as a crank, he's hailed as a prophet.

Well, by the media at least. The public may have seen through him.

Last week's Newspoll showed the Greens stuck on 7 per cent support, down from last month's 8 per cent high.

And even that figure may mask the real disenchantment with green politics.

At the last election, the combined vote for the Greens and Australian Democrats, which compete for the tofu vote, was 10.4 per cent. Now, says Newspoll, it's 9 per cent.

It shouldn't be like this. Wasn't Labor supposed to have lost all its nicer members to the Greens? Wasn't the Iraq war supposed to have driven millions of peace activists into the Greens camp?

And wasn't Brown's heckling in Parliament of US President George Bush meant to have been a great coup? I remember a gloating Brown at the time dismissing his critics.

"The public supports human rights more than good manners," he declared.

Instead, it seems the public realises a man with bad manners is also bad on human rights. They go together.

But as I said, I wish the Greens were suffering because voters at last realised what they stood for -- and proved they knew the smell of crud. So let me test your sense of smell by presenting some of Brown's official policies.

His Greens want higher taxes for all, but particularly for business, whose taxes will leap from 30 cents in the dollar to "at least 49 cents". Bye-bye jobs.

But that's if those businesses are allowed to exist in the first place. The Greens want to ban smelters, end uranium mining, "phase out old coal-fired power stations", "dramatically reduce . . . use of fossil fuels for transport", stop genetic engineering and limit mining exploration.

Dams will be made to hold less water, and farms will be abandoned and roads dug up until the land they occupy is "below 1995 levels".

Who needs to work, anyway? The Greens plan to "contribute to altering community perceptions of work", by imposing a "four-day working week". What's more, they'll give anyone a Guaranteed Adequate Income "without the prior necessity to seek work". Without the necessity to seek work ever.

This will help "people to fulfil their real . . . social needs", which the Greens believe may include taking drugs.

Yes, the Greens say drugs should be decriminalised, heroin handed out and softer drugs made "more freely available" because people need "the opportunity to achieve personal fulfilment" and that "may, for some people at particular times, involve the use of drugs".

But life won't be all dope and skittles. Sadly, car spaces will be cut and people made to "travel less by air". Instead, they'll be encouraged to "increase the proportion of bike trips to 20 per cent".

Even so, what a lure this land will be, especially when people smugglers learn that no asylum seeker will be detained for more than 14 days, even if we can't find out who on Earth they are.

The Greens will even "support the granting of political asylum" to "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex people and people with intersex condition", all of whom will be able to receive artificial insemination and free "transgender medical procedures". And have the new right to marry, too.

Mind you, I think the stampede will be the other way -- of refugees from Australia.

But suppose the worst. Even if foreign armies storm in to pinch our drugs and dole, the Greens will be ready. They plan to give "non-violent civilian resistance training" to a civil force which can help defend us should we be "militarily threatened".

I can see it now, Bob Brown leading the Fourth Regiment of Big Hugs into battle on their bicycles, while stoned citizens lazily cheer him from the rusted roofs of long-dead power stations.

And some people still vote for this man.

71 Elliot Fladen  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:10:09am

Why are we so afraid to make martyrs?

72 Baldy  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:56:32am

The Muslims have no heads. Why did the photog shoot them like that? It's a creepy photo.

73 Shira  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:19:33am

Where is the anger over all the brutal murders Yassin was responsible for?

74 JohninLondon  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:21:27am

#72 Baldy

No heads on the protestors ?Wishful thinking, maybe ?

75 Pro-Bush Canuck  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:28:57am

The challenge is to somehow distinguish between naive kids and professional terrorist supporters. In Canada some may recall an incident at Concordia University in Montreal. Netanyahu was scheduled to deliver a lecture. The cowardly administration had already allowed plenty of Islamists to use university facilities, so they had--and continue to have I'm afraid--the chance to get their "message" out.

During that incident a throng of Palestinian and other Arab kids went essentially into near-riot mode. There were threats made against Netanyahu, and as usual Jewish students were cornered and threatened. Police eventually waded in and dispersed the Muslim/leftist thugs. One of the "leaders" was a "professional student" who for some reason had attended almost no classes in the past 2 years. He was not permitted to live in campus housing because of past incidents and threats, but due to Canada's Berkeley-style love of "multiculturalism" he was allowed to remain at the university, recruiting for Hamas et al.

Hard-leftist kids who go on to maintain that creed into full adulthood--those who truly despise the West and "capitalism"--are just as dangerous, as many know here.

The problem is in separating out those who pose a danger from kids who have simply read a bit too much communist literature, but who are essentially just naive.

76 Jeff S.  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:39:25am

The irony is that Louis Armstrong was an unabashed Judeophile.

77 J.D.  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:41:23am

Here in the U.S. -

Social studies textbooks used in elementary and secondary schools are mostly a disgrace that, in the name of political correctness and multiculturalism, fail to give students an honest account of American history, say academic historians and education advocates.
"Secondary and college students, and indeed most of the rest of us, have only a feeble grasp of politics and a vague awareness of history, especially the political history of the United States and the world," says Paul Gagnon, emeritus professor of history at the University of Massachusetts.
Most textbooks, produced by a handful of giant commercial publishers, are exposing generations of children to cultural and history amnesia that threatens the very basis of American free institutions and liberties, warn leading historians who are calling for better-defined, more rigorous state teaching standards.
...

...Publishers followed with their own editorial anti-bias guidelines, which banned words, phrases, images, and depictions of people deemed unacceptable — such as "man," "mankind," "manpower," "men," said to be sexist. Also banned are "able-bodied," "aged," "babe," "backward," "chick," "fairy," "geezer," "idiot," "imbecile," "Redskin," "sissy," "suffragette" and "waitress." ...

Read the whole thing.

78 J.D.  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:44:05am

Uh-oh. Sorry Charles.

79 Pro-Bush Canuck  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 5:03:25am

Speaking of Marxists--and I include in that category all who follow various forms of communism--there is an old Russian proverb dating from the era when the Bolsheviks "liberated the proletariat":

A farmer has two cows and his neighbour has one. The neighbour is envious of the other fellow's seemingly better fortune, so he goes to the local authorities and pleads his case. "It's not fair!" he wails. The Party agrees that this unfair allocation of economic resources cannot be allowed to persist.

They ask the whiner: "Would you prefer that we give one of your neigbour's cows to you?"

No. Says the man. I want you to kill one of his cows.

Envy and jealousy are normal human emotions, but they are not qualities we want to encourage. Communism is premised on the notion that everything must be divided equally. Well that ain't gonna happen. People who work hard for a living have every right to keep most of what they earn. Even the Chinese recently altered their laws to acknowledge fundamental respect for private property.

80 Austin  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 5:50:59am

The peaceful march was also to voice their anger at the brutal murder of Yassin and to call for ongoing and a peaceful resolution

...AND peaceful? As if to imply Israel's actions break from the pattern.

Right.

81 Frank IBC  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 5:53:09am

"He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword."-

-Jesus

82 Zaide  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 6:11:38am

#79 Pro-Bush Canuck
A friendly quibble:

"Jealousy" & "envy" are, nowadays, interchangeable terms.
In fact, they are different.
The individual, in your anecdote was envious. He didn't want to have to assume the responsibility of tending his misappropriated cow. He simply wanted to prevent his neighbor from enjoying the fruits of his labor.
Jealousy, on the other hand, would have been a totally appropriate emotion for the rancher as soon as he even suspected the neighbor's animus.

I mention this apparently persnicketty detail because it is so descriptive of the mindset of collectivists everywhere and of the Arab's especially.
Can anyone doubt for a moment that Israelies would, given the least opportunity, do everything in their power to assist the Arab world in achieving prosperity, education, technology, etc. Hell, they do that now as much as possible, while being attacked by the very people they try to help.
Arabs may say they want more but, in fact, what really motivates them and, indeed, all anti-semites is the desire to cause the Jews to stop enjoying the fruits of their work, sacrifices, and just plain indomitable will to BE.
The problem with Israelies is that they are not "jealous" enough!
Of their lives and that of their children.

83 dr_dog  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 7:53:31am

AP letters to the editor can be sent to info@ap.org.

That's what I'm doing.

84 Byna  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 9:22:29am

In the name of Sauron, I beseech Saruman to protect my gonads!

85 aaron's rantblog  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 9:31:38am

#12, #32 & #45, concerning holding Yassin over genitalia...

See photos of Arafat and Yassin kissing young boys, here.

Rantisi is a "pediatrician". I think he's a "peddler in pedophilia" for a culture where young boys are commonly used for sex. Excerpt:

Socially segregated from women, Arab men succumb to homosexual behavior. But, interestingly enough, there is no word for "homosexual" in their culture in the modern Western sense. That is because having sex with boys, or with effeminate men, is seen as a social norm. Males serve as available substitutes for unavailable women. The male who does the penetrating, meanwhile, is not emasculated any more than if he had sex with a wife. The male who is penetrated is emasculated. The boy, however, is not, since it is rationalized that he is not yet a man.
86 Jakester  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 10:03:40am
and to call for ongoing and a peaceful resolution to the situation in the Middle East.


Not for the gates of hell to open or to praise Allah with dead Jewish skulls. What's peaceful to these farts?, that all the Jews quietly leave so they can steal everything they had!

87 Steve Young  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 11:09:38am

A good cartoon on Yassin nonsense:

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

88 Gordon  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 12:42:49pm

Sheik Yassin was murdered. He was brutally murdered.

Assassination is merely a subset of murder.
So is justifiable homicide.
Blowing a guy up in a wheelchair is pretty brutal too, any way you look at it.

Of course AP is using the words maliciously. But just because Sheik Yassin wasn't brutally murdered doesn't mean Israel wasn't perfectly justified in doing it.

89 Thom  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 1:18:31pm

What?

90 Sergio  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:17:50pm

Charles, if you put together a photo book - a collection of captioned photos from AP and Reuters - you could self-publish it and I'm confident it would be an enormous hit. You'll have to consult a lawyer, but I would think that there is some kind of 'hard news' angle, so you would not have to get permission from the photographers, but I could be wrong. A good compendium of what the AP and Al-Reuters do what help clarify where they stand once and for all.

91 Andjam  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 3:30:37am

I don't know if you can get the Sydney Morning Herald in your city, but on page 4 is a photo of some young kids (10 years or so?) with tea-towels around their heads and mouths. In AUSTRALIA. The child on the left looks scared witless.

(Headline: Anger at assassination spills onto streets

Caption: Show of anger ... protesters in central Sydney yesterday urging the Federal Government to condemn the assassination of the Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin, who was killed last week by Israeli forces. More than 400 people marched from Hyde Park to Martin Place in support of the the Palestinian cause and to oppose Israel's attacks in the occupied territories. Photo: Dean Sewell.)

92 Gandalf  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 4:58:38am

Tell me, "friend", when did Saruman the Wise abandon reason for madness?


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