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Search Enhancements

Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 3:34:58 pm PST

I’ve been doing a little work on the LGF search feature. If you click the search button at the top of the page without entering a string to find (or click the “Advanced” link), you’ll go straight to the search page, where you can now choose to search only the entry text, or the entry and comments (everything). Searching entries only is quite a bit faster than searching everything.

If you choose to search with Google, these buttons don’t do anything; they only work with the built-in LGF search function.

UPDATE: And now, by popular demand, I’ve also added a feature to limit the searches by time. The popup menu labeled “Search previous:” lets you limit the search to the last day, last week, last month, last 3 or 6 months, or the last year. Anything more than that and you get the whole shebang.

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1 scaramouche  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 1:37:32pm

Just another reason to be proud of LGF--your continual refinements, Charles, ensure that it's a state-of-the-art website.

2 greenmamba  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 1:46:41pm

I agree with #1 Scary.

Any chance of supporting some Boolean functions and " " in the future? LGF is a great research tool in my private battle against the unjust and the search function is a key element.

3 Thom  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:00:45pm

Woo hoo!

For people like me (the type who inadvertently chose a nick that renders the search function useless) a "match whole word" feature would be a blessing.

4 Zaide  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:00:50pm

Charles, I posted this yesterday.
I don't mean to harangue; I'm just not sure you read it.


#323 Zaide 3/27/2004 01:43PM PST
Charles, pardon my obvious lack of computer skills but I'd like to know if it would be possible for you to build a function into LGF (call it "the anteroom") where trolls could be relegated after, say 5 - 10 inane posts, and where LGFers would be free to go to try their skills at teaching pigs to tapdance.
I think that might result in less wasted effort, on your part, in trying to provide us with worthwhile subjects for discussion.


Postscript:
It would also disarm the DU/IM types who accuse you of stifling dissent and, just possibly, convince some of the more pollyannish LGFers that not everybody responds to logic, truth & fact no matter how long you persist.

5 zombie  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:02:21pm

Since the topic is fiddling with LGF's code, I'll again put in a request I posted a while ago: Would it be possible to remove (or strongly discourage) the "Link" option (as opposed to the "Link (New)" option) in the comments window? I say so because linking to outside sources is common on LGF, and when someone makes it merely a "Link" then no new page opens, and the browser takes the viewer away from the LGF site. This is extremely frustrating for people like me because most of the comments sections on each thread take an especially long time to load, particularly if there are more than 100 comments or so. Every time I click on a link that opens a new window, I breathe a sigh of relief. Every time I click on a link that DOESN'T open a new window, I groan in agony, because then to continue reading the thread I have to go "back" and reload the LGF page, which can often take up to 2 or 3 minutes (don't ask me why). The flow is seriously interrupted.
People have said that I can use various keyboard and mouse-button combinations to always open a link in a new window, and I know that's true. In fact, I now have to do my mousebutton-keyboard trick to open EVERY link in a new window, since I don't know ahead of time which ones are the "bad" non-new-window links. Which becomes a real hassle after a while.
Simpler would be to make it such that every link from a comment on LGF opens a new window, unless the user somehow overrides it intentionally. I say this because I'd be willing to bet that 99% of the people who do a non-new-window "Link" aren't doing so on purpose -- they're just doing it accidentally because "Link" is the first of the two options available. I can see no reason why someone would WANT their "Link" to take the reader away from the comment and off LGF, when it would be so much more convenient for everyone if the link just opened a new window that then could be closed, and we're all right back where we were before.
Charles, everyone: agree?

6 Engineer  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:03:56pm
Any chance of supporting some Boolean functions and " " in the future? LGF is a great research tool in my private battle against the unjust and the search function is a key element.

Please!

Also, a two part search, one for the poster and for the search string i.e

"Zulubaby" (the poster)
"Yassin" (posted by Zulubaby)

would find all posts where Zulubaby used the word "Yassin" but not any other uses of the word "Yassin"

7 Thom  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:05:11pm

"match whole word only", I mean.

8 greenmamba  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:05:29pm

I agree with zombie woof - I mean zombie too, also. (I AM agreeable today.) I hate losing the page.

9 Engineer  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:08:13pm

zombie

It has become a habit to right click and select "open in new tab" (Window for non firefox users). because I hate it when I lose the LGF window.

10 Zaide  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:08:14pm

#5 Zombie
Well, bless my cotton socks!
I've never used "link(new)" 'cause I didn't know what it was for. But I HAVE experienced the reload problem you mentioned. I've also inadvertantly clicked the red X instead of Back & then, had to re-load LGF.

See? You did a mitzvah!

11 Zaide  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:11:58pm

Oh, and Charles, could I get real leather instead of the velour. AND the power-assisted 4-way positioning driver's seat, while you're at it?

12 Geepers  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:12:29pm

Zombie, greenmamba,

Two hints, First set you preferences to make links open in a new window, for Charles links. And use shift-click (hold the shift key down when clicking a link) which will open any link in a new browser window.

Charles, I'd like to see a "search within results" and a time block to search within, like just the last week say for recent, (but unremembered) entries.

Oh yeah and, You da man!

13 CastorOil  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:29:30pm

#5 zombie - I was about to request the same thing: remove the darn thing called "Link" - I know how to open new links in a new window, but why not make it standard?
I never know if a link is going to replace the current window, and have to practise every time the right-click and "Open in new window".

If I had a penny for every time I went to a link in the same window and after I read it, I closed it, just to realize I cant't go back to where I was on the thread...
Go to Favorites, LGF, look for the thread, scroll, scroll, scroll, find the last post you've read - curse the poster - etc.

Please, Charles, remove "Link"!

14 evariste  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:38:19pm

Charles-what if we could specify to search only the last say five days of threads or a similarly arbitrarily small number? I often search for my own nick to see if someone's asking me a question on a thread I haven't visited and I'm sure others do the same; there's no reason to search the entire lgf archive when all I'm interested in is recent entries. It'll save processor time and bandwidth too.
Thanks for doing some work on search, it needed it! :-)
I disagree with removing "Link"; I need it if I want to link to a specific comment's anchor on the same page as I'm on. Otherwise my link'll open a new thread with the same contents as the one I'm in, instead of just jumping the one I'm in up to the right spot. A waste of bandwidth and a pain in the tuchis to close.

15 Max Darkside  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:38:25pm

SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG

I entered "Clinton was great" Search results had (0 matches)

/liberal searching for truth

Bwahahahaha !!!!

16 evariste  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:46:12pm

Charles-remember how I thought you didn't have a favicon because my Opera browser wasn't showing it? I'm now using a preview edition of 7.50 (pr3) instead of the 7.20 version I was using then, and it's showing it just fine. So it was Opera's fault.

17 Paladin  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:49:49pm

#15 Max Darkside

Put in "Clinton was a great Asshole"

You'll get planty of hits.

18 T. Jefferson  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:55:56pm

I very much agree with zombie on this one. This has happened to me so many times, that I learned to right click and select open in new window.

19 Charles  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 2:58:36pm

And now -- you can set a time limit for the search. See UPDATE above.

20 evariste  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:00:54pm

Yay! Charles owns.

21 evariste  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:02:01pm

Sweet! It's much faster now that I can choose to limit by time. Thanks, Charles.

22 bad elvin  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:02:29pm

Did anybody watching the Ed Bradley interview of Condoleeza Rice on 60 Minutes? I am less and less convinced as time goes on that there is any reporter that is willing or capable of conducting an objective interview. Tough and/or unpleasant questions are fine, but subjective, loaded questions are another matter. With every question he asked Rice, you could sense his ideological bias...Richard Clarke good, Bush bad. Particularly offensive was his point he tried to make that there have been more attacks in the 30 months after 9/11 than the 30 months prior, so naturally our response post 9/11 is wrong. what the hell has happened to the backbone and character of a large portion of this country. Bradley wanted Rice to apologise to the victims' families (which she did), Rice said (and I agree) that the best way to honor the families and the memories of their lost loved ones is to win the war, and to do everything we can to prevent future attacks.

23 George P. Burdell  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:03:06pm

Nice work, Charles.

This will save lots of precious time.

BTW, GT is in the Final Four!!!!

Life is good!

24 bad elvin  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:03:49pm

that should read "Did anyone watch". sheesh.

25 E. Nough  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:03:54pm

The new search engine will make Charles THE ENEMY OF GOD!

...just thought I'd warn everyone. Carry on.

26 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:05:14pm
27 bad elvin  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:15:40pm

related article to my post in #22, signed by many victims' family members...
NO THANKS, MR. CLARKE

28 justdanny (zoloft is not for everyone)  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:33:13pm

I'd like a feature where every time an islamist is sent to his raisins, theres a button that can be clicked which plays a simple midi of Eruption by EVH.

And when a troll posts removable hate bile, instead of removing it, just smear it as if the palm of your hand had run across fresh ink, making it completely unreadable.

Also, when respected regulars post, a wav of you/Charles plays that says, "I am Charles, and I support this message".

Every wednesday from 8 PM to midnight temporarily change the name from Little Green Footballs to Little Green Stratocasters.

Alright thats all for now.

29 evariste  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:39:19pm

justdanny, LMAO!

30 cba  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:40:27pm

#28 justdanny:
LOLOLOLOL!!!!

31 cba  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:41:10pm

And I'd like a feature whereby LGF cleans my house, does my laundry, and checks up on my teenager.

32 Paladin  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:42:13pm

I'd settle for turning on the coffee pot 1/2 hour before I get up.

33 cba  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:44:27pm

Charles, you are too good to me--I just saw New World Odor as the rotating title! My life is complete.

34 cba  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:45:14pm

Oh, and the new search features worked bee-ooo-tifully!~

35 Skookumchuk  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 3:50:31pm

Meanwhile, everybody go read Barbara Amiel in the Telegraph.

36 Paladin  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:09:21pm

#35 Skookumchuk

Buy a firearm.

Learn to use it safely.


There is a bloodbath coming.

37 Skookumchuk  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:24:56pm

Firearms are great for sport and pleasure, but they are not what we really need. What we need is the will to prevail, as she says. Do we really have it?

38 Skookumchuk  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:29:31pm

And further off topic, now Condi says "I'd really like" to testify publicly.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

39 josh  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:29:56pm

Very useful!

Awesome work!

40 zulubaby  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:39:07pm

You're so fabulous, Charles. I ♥ LGF, it's really the most sensational website.

41 torchy  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:41:43pm

#22 bad elvin

Bradley wanted Rice to apologise to the victims' families (which she did),

I watched Bradley badger Rice for her reaction to Clarks "apology" but I don't rememeber her making one herself (unless you're referring to a Rice statement prior to this interview). She did sympathize with the survivors losses and suggested the best way to honor them is to do everything possible to win the war and prevent future attacks as you stated. I admire her resolve on the issue of apologies and don't believe she made one in this interview. Our enemy. by disregarding int'lly recognized rules of military engagement made every American a soldier on 911. The gov't doesn't apologize for a soldiers death in combat unless it was a clearly preventible accident (friendly fire, etc) and only after an exhaustive inquiry. Congress is in the midst of that investigation now and Clark had no place apologizing to anyone (except for his own failures perhaps) for the gov'ts actions leading up to 911. The only apology of any substance should only come from the perpetrators and enablers of those atrocities.

42 Geepers  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:48:46pm

Excellent. Definitely the best looking, best working blog in the sphere.

43 CastorOil  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:50:31pm

#35 Skookumchuk - excellent article.
Interesting how one reporter became "radioactive" and no one wanted to hear about Jihad in America. And interesting facts about Yigal Carmon and MEMRI.
I wonder, as Barbara Amiel says, if it would take another 9/11 to make America listen to the Daniel Pipes and VDH's of today.

44 realwest  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:50:58pm

What a bunch of ass kissers. Really. I have NO IDEA what the big deal is. I guess most of you let facts get in the way of a good argument!!!! LOL!!
NIce, VERY nice improvements, Charles.
I hope these didn't prevent you from doing your cycling thingy - you know, those 50 mile rides from (as Thom put it) from point A to point A!!!

45 dexter green  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 4:51:56pm

OT

#23 George P. Burdell:

BTW, GT is in the Final Four!!!!

Life is good!

Congratulations to Tech & its fans--you surely deserve to be there. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for an all-ACC final. :)

-dg

46 J.D.  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 5:34:34pm

Very nice!

47 Skookumchuk  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 5:49:04pm

And, yes, thanks Charles!

48 bad elvin  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 6:12:16pm

#41 torchy

this is the apology to which I refer...

ED BRADLEY:: Will the families of those people who were killed hear an apology from you? Do you think that would be appropriate? CONDOLEZZA RICE:
The families, I think, have heard from this president that - and from me, and from me personally in some cases in that field in Pennsylvania or at the World Trade Center, how - deeply sorry everyone is for the loss that they endured. You couldn't be human and not feel the horror of that day. We do need to stay focused on what happened to us that day. And the best thing that we can do for the memory of the victims, the best thing that we can do for the future of this country, is to focus on those who did this to us.

Rice Defends Pre-9/11 Readiness

49 zombie  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 7:47:51pm

#12   Geepers

Zombie, greenmamba,
Two hints, First set you preferences to make links open in a new window, for Charles links

I have always had my LGF preferences set to "Open Links in New Window." But it seems to have no effect. The links still fail to open in a new window anyway. Don't know if this is an incompatability issue with my browser (IE 5.1 for Mac) or if its a glitch in the LGF code. Either way, doesn't help.

#9 Engineer
It has become a habit to right click and select "open in new tab" (Window for non firefox users). because I hate it when I lose the LGF window.
#26   Rayra 
seconded. 'second nature' for me now, an easy workaround to your stated difficulty, zombie.

But why even have a laborious "workaround" for a difficulty when there is no need for the difficulty in the first place? It's like the old joke: "Doc, it hurts when I do this." "Then don't do that." That's a workaround. Not a cure.
I think Zaide's comment is the most telling:

#10   Zaide
Well, bless my cotton socks!
I've never used "link(new)" 'cause I didn't know what it was for.

I'd be willing to bet that 99% of the time this is the reason people use "Link" instead of "Link (New)": because they don't know the difference -- not because they really specifically want to link the user away from LGF. Aside from the rarely used "link to another comment on the same page" function mentioned above, I see little or no reason for the "Link" option to remain the first and most concise (and thus most appealing) option. It brings convenience to the commenter 1% of the time, and causes hassles for all the readers 99% of the time.

Oh, a few more things: Charles, could you provide a "scramjet" option so my computer runs faster? Also, I want to see tomorrow's news today, so I can make a fortune at the racetrack. Also, some wood paneling would be nice around here. Thanks.

50 torchy  Sun, Mar 28, 2004 8:48:44pm

#48 bad elvin

this is the apology to which I refer...

Apology
Noun
Inflected forms: pl.a·pol·o·gies 1. An acknowledgment expressing regret or asking pardon for a fault or offense.

........how - deeply sorry everyone is for the loss that they endured.

Maybe I'm splitting hairs about the meaning of apology but I think Ms Rice was expessing her sympathy for the victims loss and not expressing regret for a fault or offense of her own or a fault or offense of "everyone". I consider her remarks condolensces rather than an apology.

51 cba  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 3:07:10am

#50 torchy:
That's how I read it, too.

I guess it's one of the (many) peculiarities of the English language.

X: "I had a really shitty day today."
Y: "Oh, I'm sorry!"
X: "Why are you sorry? It wasn't your fault."
Y: "Um, I'm not apologizing, I'm expressing sympathy."

52 Frank IBC  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 7:10:54am

I'd also like to see an LGF feature which kills off the ant colonies that spring up around my computer desk due to the crumbs resulting from eating all my meals while on LGF.

And I'd also like to see someone diagram the sentence I just wrote. :)

53 zombie  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 10:56:28am

Charles -- you did it! You removed the "non-new-window" link option. THANK YOU!!!!!

54 Ben F  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 1:51:14pm

As papijoe notes here, the new search option provides an easy way to locate one's (or someone else's) hat-tips.

I count eight of mine between May 8 and November 28 of last year, plus two other mentions where I supplied a link to the official text for the subject of an entry.

But now it's been four months without a hat tip OR an honorable mention! Looks like I'm on a cold streak.

55 dexter green  Mon, Mar 29, 2004 2:15:07pm

#54 Ben F.:

But now it's been four months without a hat tip OR an honorable mention! Looks like I'm on a cold streak.

... but less so than those of us still clambering for our first.

-dg


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