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Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 3:00:32 pm PST

Capping off a busy day for the Religion of Peace™, a Moroccan nutball tried to blow up a McDonalds restaurant in Brescia, Italy: Bomber dies in blast at Italian McDonald’s. (Hat tip: Bruce.)

Witnesses said a man, later identified as Moustafa Chaouki, a native of Casablanca, drove his Fiat Tempra into the queue of cars waiting at the restaurant in Brescia, 100km east of Milan, at 10 pm. His car contained four cylinders of kitchen gas, each with a capacity of more than 70 litres.

Police believe he opened the taps of the cylinders, filling the car with gas. Witnesses said he then suddenly opened the driver’s door, and the car detonated into a fireball.

A woman in the car directly behind the Fiat, told the daily, Corriere della Sera: “I had just said to my boyfriend, ‘Don’t you smell something strange?’ Then there was the blast. That man didn’t even try to get out of the car. He stayed there, immobile in his seat, with one leg out of the door.”

About 20 customers were inside the restaurant, and a firefighter told Corriere: “We arrived within three minutes, and it was fortunate that we did because we succeeded in containing the explosion, chilling some of the gas cylinders inside the car.”

Otherwise, the unnamed officer added, the cylinders could have exploded, firing lethal metal fragments through the restaurant windows and possibly igniting other cylinders of carbon dioxide belonging to the restaurant which were close to the burning car.

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1 Athos  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:02:31pm

When will the WoT be properly classified as the War on Radical Islam?

2 Whosoever  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:03:44pm

ho-hum
another Fiat blows up...

3 DWD  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:05:22pm

Thank God for extremist incompetence.

4 judd  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:05:42pm

the "other cylinders of carbon dioxide" would not have ignited. Exploded from physical damage or heat maybe, but not ignited.

5 Brian Tiemann  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:05:53pm

My favorite comment over at Tim Blair's was: "I just keep picturing the Hamburglar in a suicide bomber belt..."

"Rubble rubble!" BOOM!

6 Colt  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:07:31pm

OT - Sky News reports a possible link between one of the British Muslims arrested today and a man suspected of involvement in the Madrid train bombings.

7 FreakyBoy  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:07:54pm

MacDonald's burgers a fried, Burger King's are chargrilled...moron.

8 FreakyBoy  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:08:31pm

Er...are fried.

9 Deathberg  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:10:08pm
‘Don’t you smell something strange?’ Then there was the blast.

Silvio, ya gotta lay off the onion rings!

OT: I'm SERIOUSLY strapped for cash. Anyone in the greater Toronto area have any leads for general labour positions?

10 Maine's Michael  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:10:19pm

Let's not jump to conclusions this was a terrorist act.

He could have been protesting the 1 sauce per 6 chicken nugget regulation . . .

11 Ral  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:10:20pm
A woman in the car directly behind the Fiat, told the daily, Corriere della Sera: “I had just said to my boyfriend, ‘Don’t you smell something strange?’

At a McDonalds...surely not.

12 Doug  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:10:47pm

See, I always said eating McDonald's would give me painful gas!

13 zulubaby  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:11:21pm

Lots of bombs and bomb threats today. Kinda creepy.

14 Gary Bruce  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:11:38pm

Athos:

When will the WoT be properly classified as the War on Radical Islam

We should ask Charles to start a new contest with serious overtones--name this war.

I think your suggestion has two positives, in that it's concise and qualifies the nature of the religious enemy.

My entry would be the Global War on Islamic Fascism.

I say we make it overtly political and let everyone know we're all involved in the fight.

15 Abu Akmu  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:11:42pm

Are these islamonutzis going to destroy the art in Italy if they get the chance? I remember they blew up those Buddhas in Afghanistan. Do they have a history of destroying other art in places they conquer? My art-major-daughter wants to go to Florence this summer. Yikes.

16 Colt  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:12:47pm

#14 Gary Bruce

WW4 suits me fine. While not technically true, what with this being a 1400 year old war, it's punchy and direct.

17 Flloyd  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:13:27pm

He probably got upset when they didn't smile at him

18 dgd  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:13:51pm

Maybe on his last visit to MD's he spilled some hot coffee and...naaa

19 Matt from Oz  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:14:30pm

Another one for the Darwin Awards:

Congratulations for taking yourself out of the gene-pool!

20 Buckaroo  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:15:39pm

#14

"Global War" is redundant IMO. I like War on Islamic Fascism (or WIF for short!)

21 McKie of BuSab  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:18:11pm

Flame grilled berber.

22 FreakyBoy  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:18:13pm

Mayor MacCheese on CNN right now with an official statement.

23 soy_yanqui  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:19:32pm

Please tell me that this dude was affiliated with some shadowy well-connected Islamist group and that they're at the point where they choose their operatives based on willingness to die instead of intelligence.

24 PDM  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:21:19pm

Europe will change the name of all McDonalds restaurants to Mohammed's.
Topping the menu will be the Big Mecca hamburger. French fries will still be called French fries.

25 Gary Bruce  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:23:38pm

Colt:

WW4 suits me fine. While not technically true, what with this being a 1400 year old war, it's punchy and direct.

LOL! I think you're right--it describes the situation and it's to the point, but might need an intermediary classification to get the politicians and public aboard.

A while back, another lizardoid described the enemy as The Crescent Menace, a good synonym for the Islamo-fascists.

26 its jake  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:24:39pm

Aside from the fact that it is impossible to ignite CO2, the article was pretty good.

27 levi from queens  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:25:28pm

I go for WWII. The PLO was started in alliance with the Nazis. The islamofascists have the same ethic of worship of the strong, and the cruel, and the proud, and the hard. There is the same Antisemitism, the same belief in limiting all political discourse to a single line, the same corruption, and the main allies remain the countries of the British Empire, Poland, and the United States. France has resumed its status as vichy water. Spain has returned to a Francoite neutrality. Other than losing Canada as an ally, we are immeasurably stronger. Another big difference is that the communists have resumed their sympathies with the Nazis of pre-June 22, 1941.

28 big L  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:25:50pm

was he the Islamburglar? Or al-Ronal'McDonal'?

29 David All  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:26:27pm

These Islamic Terrorists have gone too far! Attacking the World Trade Center and the Pentagon are one thing, but trying to blow up a McDonald's is Sacrilege! This means War! (Satire)
(Further Satire) Another good reason to go to Wendys'!

30 levi from queens  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:29:05pm

whoops--forgot Russia a main ally (also the Filipinos and the non-communist Chinese)

31 Powderfinger  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:29:24pm

OT, but not really...

Someone call Ripley's!!!

A splodeydope goes BOOM! and no [bigoted word]s are involved.

Suicide bomber kills 3 in Bolivin Congress.

32 Gary Bruce  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:29:38pm

Buckaroo:

"Global War" is redundant IMO. I like War on Islamic Fascism (or WIF for short!)

Good point, though I think we need Charles to get the word out to solicit more nominations.

33 bpolsky  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:30:08pm

Expressing disapproval with the fryolator flavor of his Big Mac, a disgruntled MacDonald's customer decides to flame broil his own hamburgers.

34 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:31:22pm

Mmmm. Crispy critters!
And a side of kous kebab with that, please.

35 Gary Bruce  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:32:40pm

Levi from Queens:

I go for WWII.

That would confuse too many people.

36 H-Town  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:33:01pm

Hold the pickles
Hold the Lettuce
F**k you Islamabots
You upset us!

Have it your way! Have it your way!

Er... wait.. that's Burger King. Sorry.


* I just aged myself with that little ditty

37 Colt  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:33:09pm

#25 Gary Bruce

[We] might need an intermediary classification to get the politicians and public aboard.

You're right. Though, if "it" happens (ie, the "when" in Athos' question), I think most Americans will conclude that this is indeed WW4.

A while back, another lizardoid described the enemy as The Crescent Menace, a good synonym for the Islamo-fascists.

I like it.

38 Morgan  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:35:21pm

Nothing funny here. Thousands of young Muslim men in Western countries spend their days deciding how and when to best kill their neighbors. Soon they may have poison gas and radiation-based weapons. And for the most past we know who these men are, but we are just too cowardly to confront them or strike first. Already in New York, aside from the WTC attacks, an Arab has shot up a van full of Hasidic jews, synagogues have been firebombed, a subway bomb attack was foiled, an Arab opened fire on tourists atop the Empire State building and dozens of Muslims have been arrested for financing terrorism.

39 Internet Lawyer  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:36:12pm

#35 Gary Bruce

WWII, Director's cut ?
40 tbfromny  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:37:28pm
Otherwise, the unnamed officer added, the cylinders could have exploded, firing lethal metal fragments through the restaurant windows and possibly igniting other cylinders of carbon dioxide [emphasis mine] belonging to the restaurant which were close to the burning car.

Umm...Not to question the training of Italian firefighters, but since when is carbon dioxide flammable?

41 Colt  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:43:46pm

#40 tbfromny

I think it has to do with the gas being compressed.

42 Abu McKinney  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:46:21pm

#13 zulubaby

Unfortunately, I just checked the headlines and saw that there was threat in the US today, too.

43 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:50:14pm

OT - I have no idea who these folks are but the article is definately worthy reading: Europe's Old Disease Returns

44 J.D.  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:52:41pm

Another failed car bomb -

"We realize we're not going to win this war by killing individual terrorists, but by winning the hearts and minds of the Afghan people and helping reconstruct their country," Hilferty said.

The strategy is also aimed at gathering intelligence on militants' movements that the military hopes will help them snare fugitives including Osama bin Laden, Taliban leader Mullah Omar and renegade Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.

"It's paying off," Hilferty said, pointing to a string of tips about weapons caches, including three in the Khost area last Saturday.

"Generally, that's a result of intelligence. Often people lead us right to them," Hilferty said.

But attacks on U.S. forces continue, with the latest comprising of the attempted car bombing of an American convoy in eastern Afghanistan on Monday.

After a "pitiful explosion" in the vehicle, the assailant got out and ran toward the convoy with a pistol, Hilferty said. "He's dead now."


Troops scour Afghan border villages for weapons, information

45 zulubaby  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:54:01pm

Abu McKinney (#42)

I posted this one too. Quite the weird day.

46 zebeddy  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:57:43pm

How do you know that this man was an islamist? The evidence is terribly weak.

Because another mans car exploded near a syngogue 160km south?

Because an imman had terrorist links 50km away?

Because they are all muslim?

This is at best circumstantial, i think ill wait until islamist connections are proved or disproved before reaching a conclusion.

PS:
I feel its important to remember that there are a lot delusional people out there, and that many have no religious or ideological motivations for their actions.

47 aFriend  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:58:12pm

16 Colt

Hey, how about "The 1400-year war"?

Or "the unending war against imbecilic barbarians"? A tad too long, I suppose. :-)

All these thwarted attacks - must be the brilliant work of Clarke.

48 Colt  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:58:44pm

#46 zebeddy

Sarcasm, right? :-)

49 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:59:22pm

#38 Morgan
Most of the folks on this board have wept buckets of tears & know someone dear in Israel for whom they fear on a DAILY basis.
Some of us are down to a tissue thin stomach lining from constant over-secretion of adrenalin & gastric juices.
Please don't begrudge us a little R & R in the form of comic relief. It helps keep us sane.

Welll...most of us.

50 aFriend  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:59:36pm

#24 PDM

"French Fries" - LOL!!

51 Colt  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 1:59:53pm

#47 aFriend

Hey, how about "The 1400-year war"?

We ain't through yet ;-)

52 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:00:52pm

Oh, and Morgan, I posted something very similar to what you just did a few days after I found LGF.

53 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:05:23pm

#46 zebedy
Good point!
I guess the clop clop sounds I hear going by my house of a summer morn are from a passing pair of zebras.
I mean, I haven't seen them...it could happen.

Right?

Ever hear of Occam's razor?

54 Barking Pumpkin  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:06:02pm

Fiat = Fix It Again Tony

Er, not this time.

55 Colt  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:10:18pm
I feel its important to remember that there are a lot delusional people out there, and that many have no religious or ideological motivations for their actions.

Very true. When Arabs start trying to blow up symbols of Western civilisation like {shudder}McDonalds, using DIY car bombs, we shouldn't rush to judgement.

56 zebeddy  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:24:53pm

#53 zaide

Occams zazor states that:

"The simplest explanation is probably correct"
(this modern translation widely accepted as correct)

Note the world 'probably'. Occams zazor is simply a guide to analytical thinking not a solution. A fact becomes a fact when it is verified objectively, it is not verified by a probability.

Therefore the zebras example:

They could be zebras! to disprove/ prove this you would have to ascertain the truth through obtaining an objective fact such as looking out of your window and seeing them(or not seeing them).

The problem in essence is this: your subjective epistomology = you beleive what you want to, regardless of objective fact.

57 Gary Bruce  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:27:24pm

This appears to limit the ecclesiastical reach of potential allies, but it also has that extra oomph that I think the war effort requires...

The Final Crusade.

58 Buckaroo  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:27:53pm

#32 GB

I hear ya -- Charles -- how 'bout collecting 10 or 12+ "top names" for a poll and/or a thread to allow write-in & discussion??

Plleease?

(Boy, I'm sounding whiny today, eh?)

59 Jeff S.  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:28:39pm

Why on earth does Italy need McDonald's? They have Italian food there.

60 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:30:47pm

I AM mightily impressed. Yessir. Impressed, I say!
Take your epistemology to Las Vegas.
Let the odds makers read the article & let's see where the smart money goes.

61 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:34:39pm
62 zebeddy  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:35:44pm

#60 zaide

What point are you trying to make exactly ? - it seems none.

Im just trying to start a discussion

63 RadioMattM  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:37:13pm

Now Zaide, be nice. After all, the DC Sniper turned out to be an Angry White Male, didn't it?

64 Jeff S.  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:39:18pm

Eating McDonald's in Italy is like making a move for Hanan Ashrawi when Elle McPherson is winking at you.

65 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:41:32pm

#46 zebeddy

Because they are all muslim?


Bingo. Give that person a cigar for its astuteness.

66 Buckaroo  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:43:59pm

#63 RMM

Speaking of that, when is Malvo going to get his true just desserts? Are the good 'ol boys in AL or LA going to take a crack at him?

67 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:46:22pm

Yeah, (sigh) and the Madrid bombing COULDA been done by ETA. I jumped to conclusions on that one, too.

That's what I get for not taking my mommy's money & going to collidge.

#62 Zebiddydooda
"Discussion"?
Please!
You're trying to initiate a DEBATE.
You know, one of those frat games wherein people like you practice the fine art of misusing logic to outscore an equally practiced sophist opponent rather than to elucidate a truth.

68 Internet Lawyer  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:47:54pm

#60 Zaide

A Moroccan Muslim blows himself up in his car, in a way that could have killed bystanders. Of course, we don't know why he chose that particular method of suicide: maybe he was scared of ropes or something. But the letter he sent to the Questura clearly states that he wanted to kill, and why.End of discussion.
69 Sparky  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:48:28pm

Pop goes the Weasle ...

70 ho hum  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:48:38pm

Hilarious thread title (and follow-on comments of course). Up to normal LGF standards of decency and compassion.

Note to Charles btw - those '50,00 supporters' visting LGF daily include a fair smattering of thoe of us who feel it's best to keep up with the latest outpourings of islamophobia. Avid reader here, but I don't subscribe to much of your outlook. Suspect I'm not alone in this.

Also note: Voting for socialists in France need not have ANYTHING to do with the 'war on terror', and voting against a patently spinning governing party in Spain has more to do with punishing political arrogance than any 'appeasement'. If Bush claimed that 9/11 was committed by Iraqis, and stuck with that line past the point of credibility, then I wouldn't hold much hope for his electoral chances either.

Roll on a new administration for year's end.

71 Sparky  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:52:57pm

#70
Dear Ho,
Thank you for elevating us. Now please FO.

72 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:53:47pm

#70 HoHum

Ho Hum

73 Buckaroo  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:54:16pm

#70 hh

"decency and compassion?!"

This guy deliberately immolated himself and his only current regret (OK, maybe he's also a bit peeved at the temperature & sulfur right about now) is that he didn't take any innocents with him. He's one less enemy we have to deal with and we're reacting accordingly.


One step from GAZE (at least you can spell and punctuate [mostly]).

74 PDM  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:55:19pm

#63 RadioMattM,

Now Zaide, be nice. After all, the DC Sniper turned out to be an Angry White Male, didn't it?

Hi Matt. NO.

75 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:55:24pm

Hey, Sparky...no AD?
Boy, you must be feeling mellow, today. LOL

76 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:56:16pm
77 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:56:40pm

PDM
Hey!

78 Powderfinger  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:59:24pm

#70

It's funny because the only one dead is the splodeydope.

That will always be funny, and as much as I enjoy laughter I hope to read such stories again and again and again.

I have no compassion for (attempted) murderers without a shred of decency.

79 PDM  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 2:59:59pm

#77 Zaide,

Shalom. :)

80 PDM  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:01:39pm

#77 Zaide,

Shoot me an email so I have something in my mail box other than offers to increase my schkoinker.

81 Glen Wishard  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:04:19pm

This has rekindled my love affair with propane!

/Hank Hill


Silliest martyrdom ... ever!

/Comic Book Guy


I don't see how the incendiary demise of another brain-damaged Child of Allah furthers the cause of world peace.

/Jack Straw

82 Johnson[deleted]  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:04:31pm
83 Powderfinger  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:07:35pm

Is #82 the same troll that was posting the "censored" adl/usa links?

84 Martel-Sobieski  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:09:31pm

I vote for the "21st and Final Crusade"

Shoot me the shkoinker-increase mail :)

85 Zaide  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:17:53pm

Hey! A vaudeville show!
And now Ladles & Germs, coming to you straight from a 10 day, SRO sell-out in the Catskills...Schmuck, Schtoinker & Putz, The Flying Dick Brothers!!!

86 Glen Wishard  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:19:52pm

ho hum waxes sarcastic:

Hilarious thread title (and follow-on comments of course). Up to normal LGF standards of decency and compassion.

Yes, it's not very sporting to make fun of people who get hurt while attempting mass murder, is it? Gosh, we should be ashamed.

And I applaud your efforts to study "islamophobia". No smug, self-righteous lefty nitwit can be truly happy unless he has lots of "phobias" to fret over.

87 Gary Bruce  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:41:29pm

Martel-Sobieski:

I vote for the "21st and Final Crusade"

LOL! Well, it takes a lot of practice, don't it?

If Scrappleface can invent "Axis of Weasel", which was then immortalized the next day on the front page of the New York Post, and entered into the worldwide lexicon shortly thereafter, we LGF'ers can surely rename the entire war for the White House. After all, they lost their communications director (Hughes) and press secretary (Ari) and are in dire need of strategic communications talent. That's us.

Charles, we need your magical services.

88 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:42:40pm

I think the Islamoids have already proven their interest and ability in 'super sizing' their attacks.

Europe meet your new/old bed. Now lie in it.

Bigel...wherefore art thou Bigel? Surely you have something more subtle to add?

89 Zaide (Ed McMahon doing Bigel)  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:47:55pm

NyyyUKem!

90 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:49:02pm

I think Reporter in the SA thread is mouthing #82 Johnson.

91 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 3:49:07pm

#89 Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

92 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:03:04pm
93 cba (Ed McMahon doing Andrew B.)  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:09:57pm

FuuuCKem!

Sorry, Ma, Ed Moran made me do it...

94 cba (Ed McMahon doing Andrew B.)  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:10:24pm

Arghh...

I meant Zaide made me do it.

95 Geepers  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:13:35pm

bigel (#92),

Never forget that Shakespeare was a rabid Jew-hater.

Is there anyone in your book who isn't a rabid jew-hater?

96 D. Edgren (the Merciless Infidel)  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:23:16pm

#2 (and possibly others, I haven't read the whole thread yet)

I lived in Italy for several years...and have known since that those Fiats are just deathtraps, plain and simple.

Does the "Roach Motel" commercial come to anyone else's mind...

"Terrorists check in...but they never check out!"

B-wah, hah, hah, Charles- the "Fries" header line is one of the best yet.


D. Edgren

97 Zaide (Doing Carson)  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:26:02pm

#92 Bigel
"Never forget that Shakespeare was a rabid Jew-hater."

I. did. not. know. that.

98 cba  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:26:59pm

Zaide, you're cracking me up.

99 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:35:17pm

#92 bigel

Never forget that Shakespeare was a rabid Jew-hater.


Leftist speak out about Christianity.

Gender and Jewish Difference from Paul to Shakespeare provides the first extended examination of the linkages of gender and Jewish difference in late medieval and early modern English literature. Focusing on representations of Jews and women in Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, selections from medieval drama, and Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice, Lampert explores the ways in which medieval and early modern authors used strategies of opposition to--and identification with--figures of Jews and women to create individual and collective Christian identities. This book shows not only how these questions are interrelated in the texts of medieval and early modern England but how they reveal the distinct yet similarly paradoxical places held by Woman and Jew within a longer tradition of Western thought that extends to the present day.

Lisa Lampert teaches English literature and comparative medieval studies at the University of California, San Diego


[Link: www.upenn.edu...]

100 AB  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:36:14pm

#9 Deathberg 3/30/2004 03:10PM PST

Some plaza at the south west corner of Keele and Finch has a "Now Hiring" sign that is supposed to be for a small office that hires labour jobs.

101 Glen Wishard  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:38:43pm

#92 bigel (with creepy organ music in the background):

Remember "The Merchant of Venice"?

I hope this doesn't keep you up all night (or cause each separate hair to stand on end, like quills upon the fretful porpentine!) but according the Shakespeare scholar Sam Schoenbaum (Shakespeare's Lives) "The Merchant of Venice" is the most popular play in Israel.

Pretty scary, huh?

The Folger Library edition of MoV has a chapter on performances of MoV worldwide, with special attention to Israel.

There was a "Shylock Festival" in Jerusalem, with pro and con interpretations of the play, and a showing of the film version with Lawrence Olivier (perfidious albion!).

Obviously, Horatio, there are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy ...

102 Rayra[deleted]  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:38:48pm
103 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 4:39:08pm

#99 ralph
Forgot to add that little Eddie Said was a prof of english

104 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:14:12pm
105 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:16:23pm
106 Gary Bruce  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:21:13pm

Glen: "There was a "Shylock Festival" in Jerusalem, with pro and con interpretations of the play, and a showing of the film version with Lawrence Olivier (perfidious albion!).

"Obviously, Horatio, there are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy ... "

LOL! Didya know that the Anglicans of Shakespeare's time publicly abused the Puritans by comparing them to Jews? Of course, there weren't any Jews in England in Shakespeare's time, having been kicked out in 1290 by King John, and not invited back until 1648 by the Puritan dictator, Oliver Cromwell.

But what's a Shylock between friends?

107 Gary Bruce  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:28:55pm

Rayra:

#57 Gary Bruce 3/30/2004 04:27PM PST The Final Crusade.

Seconded. 1400yrs+. Had more than enough. Let's finish this thing.

To get people to back the whole effort, we have to open a communications office to supplement the White House operation cause they need mucho help fast.

We really need visual action. PDM can come up with some posters. Let's see: "The Crescent Menace" would be a suitable title. A variety of illustration ideas come easily enough to mind--the aftermath of a suicide bombing in Israel, the collapse of the Twin Towers, etc.

Then, the tag line--The Final Crusade.

108 Gary Bruce  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:33:50pm

Correction to my previous post:

The tag line should have read:

Join the Final Crusade.

109 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:41:58pm

#104 bigel

Outside of the USA and Israel, not many. That says something pretty sad about the state of the world, doesn't it?


Thank you Christian BIGOT

110 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:46:46pm
111 David  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:54:53pm

# 109 ralph

IIRC Bigel's definitely not Christian. Is that what you are suggesting?

Unless Bigel's converted in the last couple of days and not told anyone about it... :)

112 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:56:31pm

#110 bigel

What the f**k does that have to do with anything?


Kill the Christians in Europe for your political solution!
That's your gig.

113 cba  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 5:58:31pm

Someone lock ralph and bigel in a room together...

Sorry, that's not fair to bigel--he's been relatively laid back so far on this thread.

114 PDM  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:01:58pm

#112 ralph,

Kill the Christians in Europe for your political solution!
That's your gig.

play troll much?

115 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:02:45pm

#111 david

IIRC Bigel's definitely not Christian. Is that what you are suggesting?


Is English a primary language?

116 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:05:14pm

#114 pdm

play troll much?


Play someone who has a clue?

117 David  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:06:25pm

#114

Yes, but ordinary English usage, at least where I come from, would mandate the expression "anti-Christian bigot" if you were suggesting that Bigel is bigoted against Christians.

And for what it's worth, I, for one, do not think that he is.

118 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:11:47pm

#117 david

"anti-Christian bigot" if you were

Kill Europe. Kill n*****s. FOAD

119 PDM  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:15:36pm

#116 ralph,

Play someone who has a clue?
#112 ralph,

Kill the Christians in Europe for your political solution!
That's your gig.

Say what? ralph, I think you're the one who could use a clue (and a Midol).

120 andthenblammo!  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:20:02pm

Me, I'm sticking to White Castles from now on. At least the weirdos one meets at Sliderville are only trying to create their deadly gases internally.

121 andrew  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:20:27pm

Bigel is not anti-Christian - he's against Jew-hatred.

122 David  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:21:08pm

Why did "ralph" have to drop the n-bomb? Bigel's problem is with European antisemites, not Christians per se and I've never seen him make a negative comment about persons of African heritage.

I'm guessing "ralph" is a 15 year old troll. Either that or he has some serious issues with anabolic steroid and alcohol abuse.

123 Ed Moran: Abu Michael Jackson as Mehmet  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:34:24pm

I think he may not have intended to die. Can't say for sure, but if the humidity was low, he might have arc'd touching the car door when he stepped out and ignited the gas.


(When I had Michelins on my 1993 Buick Skylark (just under 150k miles, and the inline 6 still gets 25 mpg highway, accelerates the doors of my wifes 2000 Ford Contour Sport Edition and burns no oil between the every 5,000 mile oil changes.) I used to get shocks all the time in dry weather. American tires have almost completely eliminated that problem (my current set of tires are Firestones, no longer American but still not French))

124 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:40:18pm

#122 david

Bigel's problem is with European antisemites, not Christians per se and I've never seen him make a negative comment about persons of African heritage.


Mr. Bigel wants to nuke Europe. He might eliminate a few Christians and Africans in the process. Bigel FOAD

125 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:43:39pm

#121 andrew

Bigel is not anti-Christian - he's against Jew-hatred.


True. Bigel wants to eliminate Europe with a nuke.

126 Ed Moran: Abu Michael Jackson as Mehmet  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:46:54pm

I think Bigel may suffer a touch of depression, but considering the state of the world, especially as it relates to his ethnic group, hard to blame him.


I don't agree with the nuke Europe stuff (maybe an exception for France), but Bigel is a good guy.

127 Ed Moran: Abu Michael Jackson as Mehmet  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:48:48pm

124, 125

Wow, thats as close as you can come to double posting w/o actually double posting.

128 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 6:56:30pm

Easier to plame(pun) Pius XII than the Nazis

129 David  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 7:02:13pm

I don't think it's fair to say that Bigel "wants" to nuke Europe.

His argument is that:

1. Europe is a seething cauldron of Jew-hatred and always has been and always will be;

2. Europe is a legitimate target if Israel is faced with nuclear annihilation and decides to bring the world down on top of her.

Now antisemitism has historically thrived in Europe and is on the increase, thanks mainly to the adherants of the Mohammedan faith. Much as this angers and exasperates me, I cannot bring myself to the conclusion that Europe is irredeemable. I cannot accept that there is something inherent in Europeans that makes them, inevitably, antisemites.

And I'm sure Bigel would be delighted to be proved wrong on this one, and see European Jew hatred all but disappear. The cynic in me, though, says we will always have some antisemitism with us.

And I have a problem with Israel (or any country) nuking anyone, except:

1. in response to a nuclear attack,

2. or as a matter of justified and proportionate pre-emption in the event of a crisis that threatened the country's very existance,

3. as in 1945, where it is clear that a nuclcear strike will likely lead to less carnage than would otherwise occur.

That said, I don't like it when Bigel's position is mis-stated, or spun into something that it is not. For all that he may get passionate and carried away when it comes to European Jew hatred, Bigel is not the seething hate-filled murderous loon that some people like to portray him as. And he's not a bigot.

130 DarthMaulrulesok  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 7:12:10pm

What to call our current conflict?

I vote for the "new hashasins" as the label of choice for these Islamic kamikaze terrorists, so how about a "war on neo-hashasin"?

What do you think?

On another point:

1. IF this is an example of "do it yourself" Jihad, with our terrorist basically acting on his own, perhaps with advice and encouragement from a local Iman, it is in fact a very dangerous development. Decentralized, autonomous terrorism would be very hard to defend against, short of very drastic actions.

2. Placing events in Italy in the larger context of recent events in England, the Phillipines, Uzbekistan and I guess elsewhere, it appears that:

A. Al-qaida is making a massive effort to attack our allies in the war.

B. They are failing. So far.

3. I doubt any of this is really coincidental. As we get closer to the US election and the establishment of the new government in Iraq, I expect a lot more terrorism to come, unfortunately.

4. Finally - can't all of us here at LGF agree to disagree on some things? We all obviously have strong opinions. Let's be civil. Please.

131 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 7:29:16pm

#129 david

I don't think it's fair to say that Bigel "wants" to nuke Europe.


Israel must openly declare Europe an implacable Nazi enemy, and break relations not only with the EU, but with most of its member nations.
bigel
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

132 David  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 7:44:33pm

Yeah, but he doesn't say "pre-emptively nuke 'em all". I think he's advocating a kind of Cold War with Europe although the "implacable Nazi enemy" part is ambiguous. And I dsagree with him. What would it achieve but more anti-Israel animosity?

133 Glen Wishard  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 7:45:33pm

Boy, tempers flared in here.

But then, I guess a man wouldn't be much of a man if he didn't have pretty strong feelings about Atomic Combat.

/Slim Pickens

134 ralph  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 7:57:32pm

#132 david

Yeah, but he doesn't say "pre-emptively nuke 'em all". I think he's advocating a kind of Cold War with Europe although the "implacable Nazi enemy" part is ambiguous.


I'd love for the French to fall to Islam, except for the minor matter that the fall of France would put nukes and ICBMs in their hands.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
thus spake bigel

135 uffa my loofa  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 10:25:29pm

I'd posted about this guy in another comment section here while asking if he would get virgins with that, since he failed to take out infidels on his way out. This is the second case of a "depressed immigrant" blowing himself up here. I'm thankful we seem to be getting the ones who didn't get their copy of the Terrorist How To manual..but wtf, I take the kiddo on a monthly excursion to MickyD's. Yeah, it's Bella Italia, why eat there blah blah blah but when you have a 4yo kidlet McD's is special. And you get a toy with your food heh. Yesterday I noticed there were armed carabineri outside of the main McD's, wasn't sure if it was to deter or if they were there for the caffe and donuts though...what was the purpose of the EU Anti Terrorism czar? It won't stop crap like this from happening and it certainly won't make France send us the BR guys they are harboring..mi pero.

136 Derby Pig  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 10:44:38pm

"Would you like fries with that?"

LOL.

137 Dominic  Tue, Mar 30, 2004 10:57:17pm
Are these islamonutzis going to destroy the art in Italy if they get the chance? I remember they blew up those Buddhas in Afghanistan. Do they have a history of destroying other art in places they conquer? My art-major-daughter wants to go to Florence this summer. Yikes.

Of course they do. They especially hate the fresco of Mohammed in Hell in San Petronio in Bologna. They have raved about that one many times - see my blog entry on the subject here. (If the permalink is messed up, go to the Archivi in the sidebar and choose Marzo 2004. It's the last entry on the page.)

The fresco is of course based on Dante's Divine Comedy, and Mohammed is thrown into hell for being a false prophet. Various Muslim groups have lashed themselves into a spittle-spraying fury over this, even going so far as to threaten to crash a plane into the church...

Florence is a bit better, thanks to Oriana Fallaci's efforts. It's a beautiful city, marred by being a hive of squishy leftist illlogic...

138 FabioC.  Wed, Mar 31, 2004 12:08:57am

Hey, I was the first one to bring this story into the light!

/joking

Anyway, it's important it finally has been exposed.

I'd like to know, how many Italians/Italian speakers are on LGF?

139 FabioC.  Wed, Mar 31, 2004 12:22:22am

And also, I have found the most successful form of resistance to the culinary genocide imposed by the Ziocapitalist, slave-exploiting corporation known as McDonalds*:

I don't eat in them!

*Bafore jumping at me, note that this is a pun to LLL speaking.

140 bigel[deleted]  Wed, Mar 31, 2004 1:15:53am
141 Seymour Paine  Wed, Mar 31, 2004 5:23:30am

The Europeans, Italians included, wanted Semites and now they got them. So, instead of quiet, law-abiding, intellectual, cultural Jews, they got subhuman, barbaric bombmakers. They invited them in; why are they complaining now?


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