They think they can scare us opening a new front of the world war every day ?

Just waiting for you at my door, jihadopigs.
Or, maybe, I'm looking for you...
Who knows ?

bigel (#1)

Let's watch Belgium shut down the diamond district and round up the Jooooooooooooos for transport.

G-d forbid. My cousin lives there.

each day we are one day closer to bombing the ka'ba back to hell.

In their jihadi glee, its good tto see the cockroaches coming out.

My belief is that as a matter of their own survival all Jews in Western Europe outside of Britain (maybe) should leave while they still can. They can come to the Israel, the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand and would be welcomed in all these countries. To think there is any future for Jews in Western Europe is as dangerous as thinking in Germany in the 1930s that Hitler and the Nazis were just a passing fade! Western Europe may not go under to the Islamic fundamentalists for a generation or two, but even so it will be a very unpleasant and dangerous place for Jews to live.

You mean the Belgians are waffling on their disadain for those who try and defend themselves against Arab agression?

You have NO idea how totally lost those people are.

Their military is unionized. No jok.

Unionization of Belgian Military

#6 bigel

Western Cannibalism -- VDH

We did not ask for this war, but it came. In our time and according to our station, it is now our duty to end it. And that resolution will not come from recrimination in time of war, nor promises to let fundamentalists and their autocratic sponsors alone, but only through the military defeat and subsequent humiliation of their cause. So let us cease the hysterics, make the needed sacrifices, and allow our military the resources, money, and support with which it most surely will destroy the guilty and give hope at last to the innocent.

#8 David All

You are very very very optimistic, aren't you ?

Canada?
Where they burn Jewish schools and put bombs in Jewish cemeteries ?

A generation or two for Eurabia to go down ? Let's make three years...if you don't live in Paris, where it happened last year or so...

#12 Mr Pol

{Prays for Minimis and Islamic rioters...}

But surely, expulsion is not the answer!
I'm afraid expulsion is the only answer.

bigel, fine. I'll deal :-)

I still thinking about this. On one hand, the Belgian Jews should move to the Anglosphere. But on the other, isn't that just one more retreat? Maybe they should organize themselves to resist these aggressors.

I hate the idea of Jews still running from Europe.

['twas worth a try]

#12 Mr Pol

Baseball bats are good !!!

People, People, People

This islamahorseshit stuff is working, in Europe, hell it's working here, the good old U.S.A.

Taken a good look at the latest polls?

#18 Promethea

I hate the idea of Jews still running from Europe.

Instead, I would like to see an Army of European Gentlemen saying

NEVER AGAIN

I know I am dreaming, but Europe, once, centuries ago, had been the heartland of the resistance against this low thing, this evil.
The Jews have no fault in saving themselves...

#20 Poitiers-Lepanto

Meeus said the Arab European League was "importing" the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians into Belgium.

Actually, they've been doing this for years. You might recall Oxfam Belgium's Bleeding Orange campaign to boycott Israeli produce. It's my understanding that when Oxfam America found out about this campaign they prohibited it and severely criticized Oxfam Belgium. But that's one example of many.

Ironically, this isn't the first time a Belgian fifth-column has imported foreign politics into the country. During Passover in 1941 Antwerp collaborators--not Nazis, but homegrown Belgians--torched the city's main synagogue and destroyed several other buildings in the Jewish section, including another synagogue and a rabbi's home. By 1945, the city's pre-war Jewish population of something like 50-60,000 had been decimated to just several thousand. Today it's at about 20,000, and is sometimes referred to as the last schtetl in Europe.

The main synagogue was eventually rebuilt and rededicated in 1954. There will be a 50th anniversary celebration (1954-2004) of the rededication in the fall. Yet 50 years later, Jews are still being harassed.

One good thing, though, is that the Antwerp Jewish community is on very good terms with the police force. There's lots of contact and cooperation, and pre-emptive measures are certainly being taken.

More shari'a in Europe - this time the Netherlands

The highly controversial statement on circumcision comes from a pamphlet "Fatwas of Muslim Women" provided by the El Tawheed mosque in Amsterdam for its open day. A fatwa is an official statement or order from an Islamic religious leader.

Expatica

I would say Jews should stand and resist Islamofascism in Europe, but it's hard to stand alone. They should chose someplace where a reasonable part of the populace is of the same resistance mind.
BTW, anyone catch the reason why France told Turkey no entry to the EU for the time being?

21

how do you mean it's working? what are the polls saying?

These sons of bitches are just south of the border and they intend to move some of their activities to the Netherlands as well.

When is the belgian government gonna kick this abu jahjah bigmouth out of their country? The guy was a member of hizbullah for God's sake.

I guess now we know why they tried to indict Ariel Sharon.

#22 Poitiers-Lepanto

As Mark Steyn put it, the prevalent attitude is "Neville Again".

#28 FormerMuslim

The guy was a member of hizbullah for God's sake.

Yes, and they do very good charity work...

Yah know... All of a sudden our mexican immigrants don't look so bad.

#23 Mr Pol

You are right, the "heroes" jihadopigs fight from a distance: the longer distance they can put between themselves and us. Running away.
They go for short distance combat when they have to do with children and old people and families of civilians.

#29 Colt

LOL
Unbelievably good.
Neville again.
Unbelievably good.

So, we're going to hear the Europeans condemming this hate speach on the part of this Islamofacist scum, right?

::crickets chirping::

#18 Promethea:

I hate the idea of Jews still running from Europe.

I can think of worse.

Maybe they should organize themselves to resist these aggressors.

They have, but further south.

This sucks beyond belief. I'm normally against running, but it isn't as if fighting's an option. Just wait for the firebombs to come, the murders in an alley to happen, and call the police and hope the individual perpetrator is caught and sentenced to 3 years in jail. Not acceptable.

"The AEL calls upon the Antwerp Jewish community to cancel its support for Jewish policy as fast as possible and distance itself from the state of Israel. If not, attacks in Antwerp are nearly unavoidable,” Ahmed Azzuz, one of the group’s leaders, told the Belgian weekly Knack in an interview."

The call for Jews to denounce their beliefs on the threat of violence is both very old and very new. Very old, as wth Inquisition. And very new, as the demands from leftists newspapers and politicians around the world.

In England . . .

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

"If Israel persists with its current policies, and Jewish lobbies around the world continue to express solidarity with repression of the Palestinians, then genuine anti-semitism is bound to increase."

In South Africa . . .

[Link: archive.mg.co.za...]

"Though relatively small in number, South Africa’s Jews have historically been an important source of financial and moral support for the state of Israel. If their representatives began to speak out against Sharon’s policy of mindless reprisal, and to press for peaceful solutions — beginning with formal Israeli recognition of the 1967 borders — they might have some beneficial influence."

. . . and in the United States

[Link: 209.157.64.200...]

"He said he will stop [the protests] only if Beth Israel holds weekly sessions on his list of topics or signs a draft resolution by Ann Arbor's Human Rights Commission to suspend military aid to Israel until it ends its occupation of Palestinian territories."

Remind me again...Belgium didn't send any fighters to Iraq or Afghanistan so...why are they being targetted? Oh, that's right...they kept their heads down and made 'nice-nice' with the jihadis and said all the right things so they looked like a bunch of pussy pushovers. Right!

#30 Colt

I am from an (turkish) immigrant family as well altough I was born in the Netherlands. And until a couple of years ago well... see the nick.

What I don't understand why of all immigrant groups in europe the arabs had to have their own 'league'. Why is it that they find themselves so damn important? This whole victim culture attitude of the ael is really annoying me.

Charles, thanks for the heads up. I'll look things up in the dutch media. IF you want anything translated let me know.

How wonderful that a Belgian weekly allowed him to use their pages to make terrorist threats against Jews in their own country. Incredible... Belgium has become a cesspool of anti-Semitism. Decent people must be horrified.

#38 FormerMuslims

What I don't understand why of all immigrant groups in europe the arabs had to have their own 'league'. Why is it that they find themselves so damn important? This whole victim culture attitude of the ael is really annoying me.

Tribalism + dhimmitude. They have to be in charge.

BTW, I'm interested to hear why you went apostate - would you mind telling me? By email, if you'd prefer privacy.

#27 dan-

The polls are showing this Iraq Sadr fiasco, a 'jittery' coalition, and the islamadems are taking a pound of flesh seemingly everyday from Bush.

I will have to say, just did see a new poll reported on Fox, indicating that more Americans, at this point that is, want the Shi`a 'uprising' "crushed".

It seems to me that there's another part to this picture. If the Jewish community leaves, so does the lucrative diamond cutting industry. This should have some impact on the Belgian economy? Ultimately they would be the ones to suffer-- "Cutting their nose to spite their face"...

Does anyone on the left *really* believe that if the Jews would just go away, the radical bloodthirsty crazies out there would settle down and go 'Thanks. We'll stop hating you."?
I don't know about anyone else, but it's obvious the Jews are just the first in a long, long line of targets. Targets that probably include everyone who posts here. Our only hope is to stop it before it starts.

bigel, quit using the "ooooooooo"!

LOL! OK bigel, now zulubabe, Colt, and NY Nana have joined my chorus of "gah! my eyes!" :-)

bigel, quit using the "ooooooooo"!

Yes please.

Spelling "Joooooooooos" instead of "Jews" is a Zionist conspiracy to use up all of the o's and leave the rest of the world to make due with 0's.

Holy crap, you've got to check out the AEL's webpage.

They've even got the classic propaganda picture of the little Palestinian punk who pissed his pants.

PDM, L0L!

#44 Randomizer

Does anyone on the left *really* believe that if the Jews would just go away, the radical bloodthirsty crazies out there would settle down and go 'Thanks. We'll stop hating you."?

Worked for the Nazis.

#49 PDM

And now the JOOOOOS are all in deep dooooo-doooooo.

LOL!

And don't get him started on the Moooooooooooslems.

#49 PDM

Except that bigel is very PC

LMGDAO

tomme, I hadn't seen that "other" photo of pants-pisser boy, thanks!

bigel

If it wasnt for Britain there would be no European Jews left at all and no Israel either, and none of the descendents of the survivors as a consequence. Or for that matter, hardly Jews in the US, as the US was not too keen on allowing Jews in at the time. Moreover, there would have been no Jews left in Europe to go the US, if and when, the US freed up immigration.

It was Britain that stood up to the Nazis and deliberately went to war with Germany, even though Britain was not attacked. The US didnt bother coming in until it was attacked.

I'm afraid your post are getting increasingly racist. I dislike racists as much as I dislike religious bigots such as Islamists. This was one of the main accusations in Winds of Change, that LGF was a race hate site. Charles J and others on this forum, spent considerable effort in trying to refute this charge.

By such posts as yours, you deliberately damage the one influential forum that is fighting the scourge of Islamism. I sincerely hope and pray, that you will pause a fraction before you hit the post button.

#51 evariste,

It's nice to see you conserving resources.

#56 Mr Pol,

Except that bigel is very PC

L0L. I think that's the first time I've ever seen "bigel" and "PC" in a sentence together. Thankfully he is not one that we can label PC. :)

I think Bigel meant "Rooooooomania."

No sweat, Evariste, but that's Mr. pants-pisser boy, to you. ;p

Let me get this straight. Belgium has a group of hard-working tax-paying Jews. Belgium also has a group of belligerant unassimilated, welfare sucking Muslims. Who do they want to get rid of? The Jews?
I really don't think so. An honest bigot would want to get rid of both groups. But would they not want to get rid of the bums first?
Maybe it is a matter of first we get rid of the Jews and then we get rid of the Muslims
In any case, it makes no sense to me to get rid of a quiet tax paying minority and keep the obnoxous minority.

Mr Pol (#56)

LOL!

*ahem*

Here's the correct spelling:

j00z

lowercase j, two zeros, and a z.

Gawdammit people, get it right! ;-)

Evariste

Saw your comments on winds of Change. Good onya.

I'm afraid expulsion is the only answer.

Expulsion is ethnic cleansing and would be difficult to accept. But exchange of populations is not considered illegal in internationl law. In fact the UN has just blessed one in Cyprus.
---------------------------
Daniel Pipes writes in his forum that just as the EU fudged the report on anti-semitic acts in Europe by blaming it on skin-heads with Muslims playing a minor role, so did a prof in the US on the moderation of Muslims in the US.

[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

#44 Randomizer:

I don't know about anyone else, but it's obvious the Jews are just the first in a long, long line of targets. Targets that probably include everyone who posts here. Our only hope is to stop it before it starts.

OK. So when, where and how? And are the Juice supposed to just hang around 'til we figure out which way is up? That didn't work out so well the last time.

#65

Just exactly who would be exchanged? Jewish settlers for Israeli-citizens-who-are-Arab? What a horror show. I feel confident that the last thing Arab Israelis want is to be governed by Arafat and his gang of thugs. And to force that on them would be a great injustice to Israeli citizens (who happen to be Arab).

Or have I got it all wrong? Whom are you proposing be exchanged? And where?

And another critical report on the EU report on antisemitism, from the DT where else.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Many Americans seem to be under the impression that their Muslims are moderate and nice. This seems to be the case even in LGF. The only reason that such a 'moderation' holds, is that Muslim numbers are still small compared to those in Europe. America's turn will come soon enough, unless she restricts Muslim immigration or better still reverses it. But getting Muslims to go back to dar al Islam is going to be a Herculean task. Even the illegal ones refuse to go.

I work with a Pakistani Muslim woman. She's nice.

All those stories coming out of Michigan and Florida, in areas where there are a lot of Muslims, though, I believe have clued most LGFers about the dangers of masses of Muslims -- the assholes always seem to end up in charge, intimidating any voices of moderation that might have existed.

Dp111: With all respect, you give Britain a heck of a lot of credit regarding Israel and Jews. From preventing European Jews from landing in Palestine to siding with the Arabists for much of the early Israeli's efforts to find a safe haven in the world, Britain cannot hold her head up high. She eventually did the right thing, but only in the face of running battles with Irgun and other Israeli resistance groups. I give Britain all the credit in the world for standing up to a seemingly unstoppable Nazi Germany at a time when the rest of the world was cowed. But to hold up Britain as a charter friend of the Israelis is too ironic to ignore.

67

The dreadful scenario, is what we have at the moment and it is going to get a lot worse. The trouble is that Muslims by and large, are unable to live in peace with anyone else. This is a historic truism in time and space. I just cant think of any where this isnt true. So we have a situation, that as Muslims populations grow in the West, civilisation will be subected to such stress, that it is very likely to collapse. Islam is pure poison to any civilisation.

At the same time Christians in Islamic countries are facing ever increasing murderous persecution. It would be just nice to see Christians in Islamic nations be exchanged for the quite obviously disaffected and unassimilated Muslims in the West. Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.

Difficult scenario, but certainly more rational then expulsion. But we are going to be confronted with far worse, in the fullness of time. I definitely see Bosnias, Kashmirs etc breaking out in Europe and America. This has happened throughout history and in every place where Muslims have got a toe hold. I see no reason why the West will be an exception. Civil wars of unimaginable ferocity are likely to ensue ie of the religious kind; the worst of them all. At the end of which, separation of populations along religious lines will take place anyhow, just as they have occurred and are still tking place in Bosnia, Kosovo, Indonesia, Kashmir and Cyprus. The only difference being that millions will have died in the interim.

As for Israeli-Arabs, they may not like to be governed by Arafat but the main reason they are in Israel, is that sooner or later these Muslim Arabs are going to mount a challenge to the existence of Israel from within. A civil war will start and the Ellon plan will come into action... if Israel wins.

70 mikem

No one at the time had any particular sympathy for Jews. In the big political game of crving p the worl after WWII, they were regarded as counting for naught. Britain had Big Game to fry, including all the ME oil, that was in Britains sphere of interest + the hundreds of millions of Muslims in the colonies. But despite that, it was Britain that committed itself to the Balfour declaration. Britain could easily have revoked its declaration, as it was not a committment. Instead it made it a committment.

I for one, cant think of any major power of real influence at the time, which was committed to the establishment of Israel. The US afterall changed its mind almost at the last minute, mindfull as it was then, as it is now, of Saudi concerns.

As for Irgun etc, if Britain really wanted, it could have stamped them out. But it did not, as there was considerable sympathy in parliament and in the Armed Forces for Jewish enlistment in the Allied cause.

DP111, that's so interesting!. Today Israel's strongest American support is in the Congress and among military folk.

This isn't the only threat AEL has made...

Check their website for this:

ISRAELI ASSASSINATION TEAM ON BELGIAN SOIL TARGETING AEL

Press Release 26 august 2002

Brussels- According to official sources, a team of 7 Israeli agents lead by an Israeli secret service officer are now operating on Belgian soil with a mission to assassinate AEL President Dyab Abou Jahjah. The sources said that the Israeli secret service wanted to take advantage of the controversy around Mr Abou Jahjah and the hostile attitude towards him among Belgian far-right sympathizers to liquidate him while creating the impression that the assassination was the work of far-right groups.
...

The Arab European League considers this development as a very dangerous Israeli adventure. Not only that assassinating mister Abou Jahjah would not weaken our will to keep pursuing our goals in defending our community and people and promoting their interests. It will above all import the middle-east conflict to Belgium , since every action has a reaction. Whoever will shed first blood will be responsible for the consequences.  
...
 

I just wonder who would have suffered the brunt of their "reaction" if JahJah had been capped.

I'm beginning to be convinced that the sick psychosexual tendencies of readical jihad have sown their own seeds (forgive me) of self-destruction.

Their sexual dysfunctions are now manifesting themselves in premature (forgive me) exhortations to jihad all over the West. They are thus failing to consumate (forgive me) their envisioned Caliphate.

If they wanted to succeed, they should have waited for their demographic time bomb to mature.

It all keeps coming back to their cultural / sexual immaturity

/spent

In case anybody wondered about the position of the Arab European League concerning the 2-state solution involving Israel and a Pali entity ...

The AEL shall keep on supporting the resistance until whole Palestine is liberated.

[Link: www.arabeuropean.org...]

In other words, their position is the same as that of Hamas -- the eradication of Israel, and undoubtedly the extermination of its population.

In terms of the annual numbers of antisemitic incidents, the countries leading in antisemitic incidents have been reported to be France, Belgium, and the UK.

[Link: www.adl.org...]

These are 2002 data, but I assume that more recent data would be similar.

However, I think that it is not as meaningful to consider the total number per country, because some countries are larger than others. Belgium is tiny compared to France, and has a much smaller population than France. It would be more meaningful, IMO, to compare per capita incidents of antisemitism. By that measure, I believe, Belgium comes out as the most antisemitic spot in Europe.

Perhaps this is correlated with the fact that the violently anti-semitic organization Arab European League was founded in Belgium. And although it seeks to spread to other European countries, it is headquartered in Belgium, where its leader Abu Jaja lives.

So the fact that the Arab European League is threatening the Jewish community of Belgium is not much of a surprise. What is surprising is that this violently antisemitic organization, which is now guilty of making terrorist threats, is permitted to continue openly, without having to go underground, without having to hide.

and btw - how many diamonds come out of the soil of Belgium & the Netherlands?? Zip.
The diamond trade can and should move from those countries.
Just as easy to ship anywhere else on the globe from So.Africa.
Let those countries suffer the steep economic price of their tacit approval of anti-semitism.

#77

It is the Europeans who are racist. Incurably so. I merely point it out.

Incurably??? That's as racist as anything posted by the LLL trolls. As difficult as it may seem, anyone can be disabused of ignorant prejudice. Even yourself.

#78 bigel
It is surprising because the Euros claim to be superior to Americans, more cultured, more elite, more sophisticated.

It turns out that the areas where the Euros are actually noteworthy are in antisemitism, in seeking to appease the jihaditerrorists, in collaboration with those who would destroy civilization; and they teeter at the edge of moral bankruptcy and total dhimmitude.

There are exceptions, of course. There are courageous people living in Europe. And they do speak out, and they do act.

But from a distance, the main thing that can be seen from across the pond is Europe's collaboration with jihaditerrorism, and its willingness to offer Israel to the jihaditerrorists in the hope that this will busy the crocodile and appease its appetite, and keep it away from their door.

But no, bigel, I am not thinking of the insane act of nuking Europe. Count me against such lunacy.

I am thinking that our State Department should be wise to the agenda of Europe, and give European thinking the contempt it deserves, and not fall under its sway.

oops, re #84, I am responding to your post in #79 bigel. But I would rather not discuss doomsday scenarios, and I stay away from the insane idea of nuking Europe. There is enough to deal with in considering the present times we live in.

European behavior is atrocious, I agree. And the conclusion that should be drawn is that our State Department should not be suckered into supporting the European agenda. The EU secretly (maybe not so secretly) envies the US, and seeks to become a counterforce to the US. The Eurabia concept involves their agenda for being a counterforce to the US. We should be very wary of their agenda and their actions and especially suspicious of their advice.

80

"Antwerp is an obvious target. The diamond sector openly supports the Zionist regime,” he was quoted as saying."

Very ironic: the mostly Hasidic-run Antwerp diamond exchange is "officially" antizionist on theological grounds.

bigel, your genocidal Apocalypse fantasies are beyond any sense of reason. Your bigotry is manifest: in this post you went so far as to insinuate that LGF regulars that disagree with your bullshit are "pro-Jewkilling"

I am the major proponent of that idea here at LGF, but you have to be careful, there are some posters here (either American liberals or Europeans) who don't believe that Israel has a right to nuke her European enemies.

Since American liberals are of the same mind as their European counterparts, shouldn't America get nuked, too?

In the case of the Euros, I guess pure self-preservation comes into play, along with the fact that frankly, many Europeans, including some at LGF, frankly don't consider the murdering of Joooooooos to be terrorism, so in their mind, they can be pro-WoT and pro-Jewkilling at the same time.

Not only is that pompous arrogant bullshit, that is slander. You are a sick man, and in need of professional help. Do yourself the favor.

They think they can scare us opening a new front of the world war every day ?

Of course--after Spain, the Islamoids think the West, especially Europe, is on the run. And they want to capitalize on it during a year when a good number of countries are voting for new political leadership.

I think it's going to boomerang on them, though. They're removing the last veil that covers their evil, including the one worn by their Leftist allies in the West. Just look at the lunacies that are increasingly generated by the Democrats, including Kerry.

Their violence around the world, including the threats, are waking up a whole lot of people.

Eurabia!!

For what it's worth...this could be a long battle!!
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

#78 EE
If you go to the site of the report, there is a link for
updates, and also, here's the page where you can
join the ANTI-SEMITISM Update-listserv.

On a brighter note, those AE-ssholes have to make loud noises to compensate for their low numbers.

A better way to hurt them and likeminded organisations is in their pursestrings.

Sites like indymedia.be and kifkif.be receive government subsidies as well as additional money from charities:

kifkif.be, heavily infiltrated by AEL sympathizers gets money for computers:

[Link: www.kbs-frb.be...]

Leo Paepen, stalinist, gets money to host illegal aliens:

[Link: www.kbs-frb.be...]

indymedia.be, an islamo-stalinist group gets money to write a propaganda-manual:

[Link: www.fondspascaldecroos.com...]

indymedia.be also gets money to stage anti-American protests:

[Link: www.kbs-frb.be...]

you can contact Louis Michel, Belgian foreign minister, directly at

Tel. +32.(0)2.501.82.25
Fax. +32.(0)2.511.63.85
louis.michel@louismichel.net

and let him know what you think,

or route your concerns through your state department.

thx.

I am waiting for the time when Belgian Jews get blamed for inciting riots and threatening the local Muslims for supporting mass-murdering Palestinians. Then the Belgians will spring into action.

Last of the Belgians #92

Write to Mr. Michel? Are you joking? The man is a raving far-left anti-semite who wants to see Israel destroyed as much as the Islamofascists do.

Spiny Norman #88

In view of events since the start of the 2nd Intifada, especially since 9-11, I would suggest that you are the one who needs mental health counseling.

Bigel may be angry and a little over the top at times, but unlike you, at least he's not delusional and in denial about what is going on in the world.

93 comments and no one noticed how reasonable their demands are: "cancel support for Jewish policies."

With all due disrespect, what does this mean? First the poor Belgian Jews would have to do is figure out what exactly are Jewish policies, then somehow get everyone to agree to not support these policies.

In a different era, this would be denounced as totalitarian bigotry. But Europe will be silent, the cup of hemlock sits comfortingly next to their bedside as they denounce their Israel and slowly prepare to put themselves to sleep without a bleat of complaint.

To agree with bigel, I would say that statements such as:

"If Israel persists with its current policies, and Jewish lobbies around the world continue to express solidarity with repression of the Palestinians, then genuine anti-semitism is bound to increase."

have been used by a few French politicians as well. And these guys are not Mad Mullahs. And they don't seem to shock anyone

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testing....
Hmmm I guess if the moslems in Britain continue to support the English in their campaign of occupation against Cornwall - they may anger Cornish nationalists and bring upon some misfortune on their heads...........

In their jihadi glee, its good tto see the cockroaches coming out.

Rather simply stated but nevertheless, quite true!

I believe it is going to get far worse before it does get better.

Wonder how difficult today for European Jews to enter countrys such as the US if they so chose to do because they felt their lives could possibly in danger?

Obviously not all Jews wish to enter Israel.

Poitiers-Lepanto #14; When I mentioned Canada, I should have clarified that I meant English-Speaking Canada, not the People's Republic of Quebecistan!
Although I am not entirely sure of the rest of Canada given the number of LLLs on the web and elsewhere who have proclaimed their desire to emigrate to peace-loving Canada where the government keeps folks rifles under lock and key where they cannot hurt anybody!

As for how long before Western Europe goes under, I stand by a generation or two. It will take time for the Islamicists to have their way completely, but unless, like Hitler in 1939 in going to war over Poland, the Islamicists grab for total control too soon, it will happen.

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77 Bigel

I didnt say that you were racist. I wrote,"I'm afraid your posts are getting increasingly racist." When you post nuke Europe, then I'm afraid that is racist.

Bigel, your posts were actually sited on Winds of Change, with the explicit understanding that such was the common tenor of all LGF. Charles and many of us in LGF spent considerable effort in refuting the charge that LGF is a race hate site.

There are a large number of people who would dearly like to hurt LGF in one way or other and bring it down. This could take the form of getting LGF banned from Hostingmatters or getting it delinked from various other sites. It could also take the form of throwing enough mud at LGF in the hope that some of it sticks. Your posts give such people ammunition. I also read that there is a move to pressure Amazon and PayPal to refuse LGF business.

We are all in this to defeat the worst threat that Western civilisation has had to face. Dont sow dissension on both sides of the Atlantic.

DP111; the people determined to find fault with this site will find it no matter what bigel says.

I'll point this out: most of the time, bigel's hobby-horse is European Jew-hatred. Every so often he mentions the Samson option.
So what?
Europeans continue to prove him right, and the Samson option, while apparently heartless, isn't really all that novel an idea, and has successfully worked in the past. If the USA was nuked by the USSR during the Cold War, we were going to nuke the entire USSR until no one was left alive. We called it Mutually Assured Destruction.

The Samson option is just MAD for Eurabia. Israel is equally as entitled to an MAD fallback as a strategic deterrent as we were during our Cold War. In a sense, Israel's Cold War never ended-in fact, it's grown hotter, and the enemy's numbers are multiplying...Who would have thought that as a result of the fourth American bailout of Western Europe, the Cold War, Western Europe would grow decadent and weak and throw in its lot with Arabia against Israel?

Europeans are not a race, just as muslims are not a race. This doesn't seem to stop either from collectively hating Jews.
Just as Americans and Soviets aren't a race. bigel is talking about the strategic implications of Europe's continuing ideological and both covert and overt material support of those that are seeking to undermine and eventually destroy the Jewish state.

His language is inflammatory, I'll grant that. I wish he would take the time to be as eloquent and detached and dispassionate as I can sometimes be when I've smoked a j and I have the chill music on, instead of sounding like a man on fire all the time. But isn't the greater worry not bigel's inflammatory language but rather Eurabia's coldly poisonous, insidious, nearly ubiquitous bending of the truth in the service of their unholy pact with radical Islam? They drown the truth so thoroughly that I feel like I'm gasping for air when I'm reading some of the things they say. Bigel may sound like a man on fire but I'd rather get blistered by his heat than soothed and drowned by Eurabia's propaganda. Right now Europe's soothing siren song conceals a Jewry that is again under attack in their workplaces, communities, and synagogues, for the crime of Judaism. And once again nearly no one cares.
To me, a news article from a European journalist discussing casually the heroic leadership of Sheikh Yassin as if it were an unremarkable given is a hundred times more venomous than the most frothing-at-the-keyboard polemic from bigel.

I'm defending bigel, but a year or even six months ago if you told me I would be, I would have called you a liar and been pretty angry with you besides for suggesting such a thing. I was writing three paragraph long screeds against bigel nearly every other day. I was his persecutor. I hope this makes up for some of it :-)

I don't know, bigel :-) If I changed my mind, anything's possible!

101 evariste 4/9/2004

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