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Fri, Apr 9, 2004 at 8:46:20 pm PDT

The pro-Arab, anti-Western agenda of al-Associated Press has never been on display more nakedly than in the caption of this photograph, showing Palestinians exchanging weapons and money with Hamas terrorists in a mosque.

Palestinian Hamas activists gather around the money, military clothes and other items that were donated by Palestinians during a Hamas donation campaign to help Jihad and the resistance in Palestine following the Friday prayer at Kholafa mosque in Jabaliya refugee camp northern Gaza Strip, Friday April 9, 2004. Hamas elements including armed military wing members called on the people to participate in the honor of Jihad by giving money or gold to help the fighters to buy weapons and supplies. (AP Photo/Adel Hana)

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1 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:48:46pm

Islam: Religion of Peace and Large Caliber Firearms.

2 Allah  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:49:11pm

Even Allah finds that one a little slanted. But in a good way.

3 FH  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:50:08pm

Shakes head in disgust...

4 zulubaby  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:51:02pm

The Palestinians are mental and the media is even worse. It's disgusting. And to think that the world supports these people and hate the Jews. I'll never understand.

5 Paladin  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:51:18pm

Are those bills Greenbacks or Euros?

6 Lawrence of Great Neck  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:54:11pm

It's an AP photo not Reuters

7 evariste  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:55:16pm

Why isn't Palestine bold?

8 evariste  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:57:16pm
Hamas elements including armed military wing members called on the people to participate in the honor of Jihad by giving money or gold to help the fighters to buy weapons and supplies.

What is this, Everquest or something?

9 evariste  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:57:50pm

Yay ;-)

10 transferthem  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:57:56pm

Time to flatten another terrorist mosque, I think? I know...the lefist mantra...hit a mosque and you'll alienate all the terrorsits gathered inside so they can plan more genocide. Bright, those leftists, huh?

11 CastorOil  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:58:21pm

"Two kings!"
"Two queens and two Jacks!"
"Flush!"

12 Yngwie  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:58:35pm

Great! So brainwashed Palis impoverish themselves further by funding terrorism which will, in turn, bring more economic hardship. One can hope that when they're reduced to eat cockroaches that they'll give up terror. One can only hope...

13 NTropy  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:03:19pm

Gee, makes my Good Friday service look sorta bland.

14 NTropy  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:04:48pm

I mean, all we got to do was sing, listen to the message and take communion. They got all kinds of fancy new toys and other gear.

15 Bill Roggio  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:05:37pm

Some of you may be interested in my post on Palestinian leadership's willingness to sacrific their own children.

How Europeans and others can call the Palestinians honorable is beyond me.

16 Model4  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:06:04pm

We need to put GPS beacons on AP, Reuters and BBC reporters in the region. No matter what time of day, you're assured of taking out a terrorist or terror supporter. And that's not counting the reporter.

Lovely lesson the children there are learning. That's not accidental.

17 kristina37  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:07:30pm

OT: Interesting article: "Iraqi minister speaks with "Zionist entity" newspaper -- but says official links "not on agenda"
[Link: www.maarivintl.com...]

18 Oktober  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:09:41pm

I think its really nice of Hamas to let the AP reporter in to take pictures of them. Unless...of course...the AP reporter is one of the ones that will be using the guns later...

19 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:12:01pm

Along the same lines...

Palestinians to U.S.; Give us money!!

And it is possible that we have agreed to this...

"The Americans told us...that provided the Palestinian Authority (news - web sites) proves able to maintain full security and end violence, the U.S. will lead a major effort to provide financial aid not only for relief and reconstruction but also for major development and job creation in Gaza," Shaath, seen as a moderate, said.

grrr...

20 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:17:38pm

And in related news:

Temple Mount renamed "Al Aqsa Mosque Compound" by AFP.

Because Al Aqsa was there first, and those crazy Jews went in at night and slipped the remains of the 2nd Temple under it while the waqf wasn't looking...

21 ördög Johnson  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:18:54pm

#19 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier

Like they are inclined to fullfill these condition. Yea, when hell freezes over!

So the money is as safe as in an imprevious vault.

22 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:22:48pm

#22 ördög Johnson

Heh. If Hamas ends up becoming the 800 lbs. gorilla in Gaza after the pullout, I wouldn't be surprised to see the administration give aid money to them.

23 Baldy  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:24:05pm

It is maddening to see this. It so plain, it's in the caption, it's in the photo - they aren't afraid. In a more perfect world, they would be afraid. They allow photographers in because they know no one will do anything about this "jihad-drive."

24 john  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:24:51pm

hi guys,

Sorry for the OT.

Have you seen this medacious NYT's article?

Give Peace a Chance.

As it's been said, "The Media is the Enemy."

25 Connecticut Yankee  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:29:15pm

#24 john

They must have rehired Jayson Blair under an assumed name. Guy has to fund his coke habit somehow.

26 pacito  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:35:02pm

I'd like to see the reaction among Westerners if the same media organizations started referring to Al Qaeda as a military organization, and to 9/11 and 3/11 as military operations.

27 ördög Johnson  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:35:57pm

#24 john

As it's been said, "The Media is the Enemy."

Well, for the most part, it seems to be populated by imbeciles. They do not know it that they feed the crock. Some do, but the majority does this "come kitty, kitty, kitty".
Crunch!
Reminds me of the Alien flick.

28 Model4  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:41:56pm

OT: Woohoo!

The two men, Randall Todd Royer, 31, and Ibrahim al-Hamdi, 26, were among nine men who either pleaded guilty or were convicted of charges related to their participation in what prosecutors called a "Virginia jihad network (search)." Two others who faced charges were acquitted on all counts.

Royer got 20, al-Hamdi got 15. Haven't heard to much from Royer's flock of admirers lately, even though massive apologies are in order.

29 ylreveb  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:48:05pm

HFS...

Time to cough them up like a hairball.

More seriously; Passover and Easter are a good time to read Psalm 97: q.v.

30 Cornholio Ay oh whey oh, ay oh whey oh  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:50:54pm
to participate in the honor of Jihad

WTF? I guess the AP is now the official press release service of the bad guys.

31 ploni  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:52:38pm

This should come as no suprise. These Semi-Tribal Islamist revolutionarys are fighting for something they really believe in. That's what's so scary about militarized religion.

The Hamas have been reduced to this...passing the plate. It's also bad PR. IMHO, they are feeling the hurt put on them in the WOT and this photo only supports Israeli policy, i.e. Yassasination™.

Year 54 in the War for Jewish Independence. Am Yisrael Chai! Hag Sameach. Peace Out.

32 The Gimp  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:53:20pm

As a Lefty, allow me to Shock and Awe you with my shared disgust at the way the AP did this. Yes, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, but I've yet to see a country or people attain freedom in rebellion by blowing up the oppressive teenagers who have the audacity to shop in malls.

If Hammas attacked the IDF directly, hey - call 'em soldiers. Soldiers target soldiers, not civillians.

Still, this is why I think Iraq was a big mistake. If we were determined to stir up the hornet's nest by beating it with a stick, why not pick an actual, threatening hornet's nest?

Like Syria or Saudi Arabia, for example. Hell, Iran, even.

But Iraq?

Saddam's cheesy beefcake moustache wasn't /that/ bad.

33 Powderfinger  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:53:30pm

The question the media will never ask:

Is this Islamic?

Jesus chased the moneychangers out of the Temple.

Will anyone in Islam confront the killers in the mosque?

34 ördög Johnson  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:57:14pm

Dale Franks sez Ignore the Critics

Criticism can, of course, have useful results. It is helpful if it prompts honest reappraisal of the country's goals and methods, and increases the effectiveness of its policy. Unfortunately, criticism -- especially the constant, and, at times, extreme criticism the Bush Administration has faced -- can also prompt timidity, and an unwillingness to take necessary risks. It is the latter effect that appears to have led us into the current situation in Iraq.

Go read it.

35 Powderfinger  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 7:58:46pm

#32 The Gimp

Still, this is why I think Iraq was a big mistake. If we were determined to stir up the hornet's nest by beating it with a stick, why not pick an actual, threatening hornet's nest?

Get a map. Look for Iran. Look at the countries that neighbor it. Consider the situations in those countries. Consider the possible tactical opportunities of the US in the region.

Get it?

36 Marudkhai  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:00:00pm

So, who do we call and email to complain?

37 gymnast  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:01:45pm

You never know what you're going to win when you start rolling dice in a mosque. That looks like a bold shooter in the white cap, looks like he gonna'shoot it all. He looks lucky enough to win the spokes off a wheelchair.

38 zulubaby  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:01:59pm

The Gimp (#32)

Saddam's cheesy beefcake moustache wasn't /that/ bad.

If we are going to bomb countries based on bad moustaches then I'd like Geraldo Rivera to be expelled from the US immediately.

39 The Gimp  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:02:56pm

#35 - Powderfinger

So attacking Iraq was to give us a platform into Iran?

Just trying to clarify your intent.

40 ördög Johnson  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:04:11pm

32 The Gimp

Sure, Syria, Soddies... I have no doubts that they are a target, down the road. But attacking them directly would create a mess that you would not like to see. Trust me on that. Satrting with Iraq was a good, sound, same strategy.

The only thing that may derail it is the Administration's timidity. It is still time to turn things around, though, despite I am can't find my pink glasses at the moment.

41 Powderfinger  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:06:15pm

Attacking Iraq was for a multitude of reasons. That's one of them.

Truth be told, the fact that Saddam tried to whack Bush #1 was another.

But, we're in Iraq and we're in Afghanistan. Iran was noted as a member of the "Axis of Evil".

If you're running Iran, what are you thinking right now? Other than that you'd like to hurry up and get some nukes built?

42 Powderfinger  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:09:25pm

My #41

...and that the last thing you want is to have democracies on either side of you?

So, what would you do? Would you encourage and fund an insurgency?

Would you hope that sending lots of Americans home in body bags would make the American public lose it's will for the fight?

43 ördög Johnson  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:10:25pm

#39 The Gimp 4/9/2004 10:02PM PST

So attacking Iraq was to give us a platform into Iran?

Well, yes. Beside other factors like removing a regime that could have been a big trouble down the road, that supported terrorist structures directly, and not the least, the humanitarian aspect of it (not exactly machaivellian, then, but I don't mind, the chances that a democratic society could be established there -- even if it may prove to be impossible, was too tempting not to attempt it, because it would eat as rust at the fondations of the oppresive regimes that surround Iraq).

44 Belize042  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:11:20pm

Should I ever wind up in an al-AP photo, I want the caption-writers to know I belong to the political wing of the Republican party. Completely separate from the military wing, ya know.

45 Ms. Andi  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:11:34pm

No ammo or gold was exchanged at my Good Friday prayer service.

#38 zulubaby

If we are going to bomb countries based on bad moustaches then I'd like Geraldo Rivera to be expelled from the US immediately.

LOL! We can dream

The Gimp

Though I respectively disagree, I appreciate that you were courteous. Thanks.

46 The Gimp  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:12:03pm

#41 - Powderfinger

If I'm running Iran, I'm thinking, "I'm damn lucky they didn't come for /my/ ass, because I have masses of people ready to overthrow me, too. Oh. And thanks for giving Iraq to the Shiites."

However, I'm not running Iraq.

I can't help but think that, if we REALLY want to destroy radical Islamic terrorism, that cutting a deal with Saddam and mellowing him out while using him as a platform into Iran would work better.

And no Shiite radicals in charge of Iraq would be a bonus.

It's not like we never cut deals with Saddam before.

47 ördög Johnson  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:12:06pm

Don't tell me... preview. :-)

48 Marudkhai  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:16:56pm

Their email box is:

info@ap.org

Be firm, be sarcastic, but avoid swearing, etc.

Be a credit to the Great Lizardoid.

They won't admit anything, of course, they are liars and cheats -- but pressure is pressure, and it has a telling effect.

49 ördög Johnson  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:17:00pm

#46 The Gimp

...cutting deal with Saddam...

That was a typical course of action during 20th century. It seemed to work for a while, but in the long run, created whole bag of blowbacks.

The current overall strategy is good. What sucks is the tactics are not yet in sync and are, to some degree, a rudiment of the previous era.

50 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:17:18pm

#46 The Gimp

I can't help but think that, if we REALLY want to destroy radical Islamic terrorism, that cutting a deal with Saddam and mellowing him out while using him as a platform into Iran would work better.

Interesting idea. Whatever kind of sweetheart deal we could have made with Saddam's Iraq, the stationing of American troops there to serve as a launch pad to attack other states would not have been an option. Iraq was chosen for a multitude of reasons, among them being that it was the most 'doable' in the military sense, after the first Gulf War and a decade of sanctions.

BTW, I have to echo Ms. Andi's comments: It's nice to have a contrarian voice here who isn't a flaming troll. Your courtesy and willingness to debate the issues is much appreaciated.

51 gymnast  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:18:38pm

#38, Zulubaby. No need to worry about Geraldo. At the rate he's going he gonna' get his "Johnson" blown off sooner or later.

52 Powderfinger  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:32:22pm

#46 The Gimp

I can't help but think that, if we REALLY want to destroy radical Islamic terrorism, that cutting a deal with Saddam and mellowing him out while using him as a platform into Iran would work better.

Saddam had 12 years post GWI to cut a deal. It wasn't going to happen. He saw himself as the second coming of Saladin, and he was completely fucking insane. Advisors who dared to question his position tended to get shot. The man was severely deluded. He was not going to mellow out, and what was coming down the road behind him was one of his two psychotic sons.

And, we had the goods on him. We had the UN resolutions that he laughed at and ignored. We had a populace that he brutalized.

Saddam was a cherry ripe for picking, and Bush had the balls to grab it. Whether it was a good idea or not remains to be seen. These things can't be judged in months. It will be years before we have the final answer.

I also will commend you for honest debate. Reference the LGF prayer, and know that unlike so many sites on the left, if you keep going the way you're going, you won't get banned or deleted here.

53 Marudkhai  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:34:29pm

In a caption about the Kohanim priestly blessing, AFP uses the obsolete and insulting term Wailing Wall for the Western Wall, and the term Al-Aqsa mosque compound -- as if the muslims had a bill of sale for it:

A general view shows the Wailing Wall and the golden Dome of the Rock at the Al-Aqsa mosque compound (background) as Israeli priests or Cohanim cover their heads and faces as they take part in a blessing for the Jewish people in Jerusalem during a mass prayer at the holy sight, part of the Passover celebrations.(AFP/Gali Tibbon)

AP/Yahoo

54 dave  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:41:15pm

Al-AP's sister webpage, Al-Jazeera.net asks, "A year after the toppling of Saddam do you think the US was right to lead the invasion of Iraq?"

In the spirit of democracy, I suggest that we all add our votes to their poll.

Al-jazeera.net

55 The Gimp  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:44:26pm

#52 - Powderfinger

In fairness, I have to say that a lot of sites on the left /don't/ delete courteous dissent, either. I find it funny that both sides (right and left) accuse each other of fascism and intolerance when by and large both sides are actually pretty decent, overall.

And to you and the others who have expressed gratitude - sure. Being a polite guest is the Buddhist thing to do, even if we disagree.

56 Powderfinger  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 8:54:36pm

The Gimp

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you. I've just recently begun to attempt venturing into left leaning sites, and I don't go in with guns blazing. I go in in much the same way you've come here, with an opinion on the issues, and a dispassionate attitude toward discussing them.

I've been banned 4 times, and had my comments deleted more times than I can count. I've had one site delete my commet, and replace it with a message that it was "bigoted or inflammatory", when it clearly was not, unless you find having your convictions challenged inflammatory. While I haven't posted there, I notice that DU states in it TOS that basically, if you disagree with the prevailing opinion, you will be banned.

I'm interested in exploring this, and perhaps making a study of it.

Maybe you can pick a lefty site, and I'll go in, debate in a civlized fashion, and see how long it takes me to get banned. Perhaps I could copy you on everything I post, and when I get banned/deleted we can come back here and you can do a post-mortem. In the meantime, we'll see how you fare here on LGF.

57 Rex the Dog  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 9:10:39pm

So much for the claim of "unbiased" reporting of the news by so called American press outlets. What a gross, biased, and completely slanted rendition of the facts. Completely in step with their other current project, Iraq. When the American command agreed to a 24 hour cease fire to allow noncombatants to leave, aid to be brought in, and the dead to be buried, what happened? The Islamist animals attacked the Americans anyway. How did the news report what was going on? A line of ass-wipe drivel that went "The situation is so out of control that the American forces resumed fighting after only an hour and a half". What they should have said was "American soldiers resumed combat action after the Islamist insurgents refused to honor the cease fire, and continued their attacks on American troops".

My other unfavorite spin is the news media's continue meme that American troops are bogged down because they have taken more than four days to pacify the resistance in Iraq. More shit-headed spin. Don't they realize exactly what the American forces are really capable of. How many "daisy cutters" have been dropped? How many B-52s are overhead, carpet bombing Fallojah, or the other cities, into rubble? Napalm? Small tactical nukes? Orders to kill everything that breathes? The American goal was to go in, and to arrest those responsible for the mob action against four men guarding a food shipment, who were set up and butchered. The American command made a very specific statement - they were there for the people responsible. If the residents of Fallojah stayed out of the way, they would not be targeted. If they decided to resist, they would be considered enemy combatants and killed. Instead of going in with the full might of America's military capability, the action has been focussed and restained to accomplish the task with as little collateral damage as possible. The news spin? American forces are "struggling" to overcome the "fierce" resistance. I really have to question the real motivations of these "reporters", and just what they think they are doing by their false and misleading spews reports. Such shit headed and irresposible spin only results in American dead. One can only guess at the actions/motives of reporters who have access to photo-ops of Islamist fighters waiting for the advance of American troops. Those reporters should be granted one way passage to what ever "utopian" dream world they truly support. They dishonor the troops, cheapen American ideals, and out themselves.

A bit OT, but still necessary considering the Idiotarians assault on LGF of late.
To Charles and his minions- Not every soldier in the fight carries a weapon, not every line in the sand needs to be drawn 12,000 miles from home.

Rex the Dog

58 The Black Republican  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 9:12:40pm

Didn't I see a report somewhere that these guys were actually robbing their fellow muslims at gunpoint for this money and gold?

59 foreign devil  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 9:13:55pm

Wow! This picture says it all, doesn't it? It's all a big game to these guys; they don't work for a living; no matter how many kids they sire they flock off with the boys and go play at jihad. Because believe me, if they really were spiritual it would show in some way. Just kneeling facing Mecca five times a day doesn't mean you're spiritual. It's still hanging out with the boys after a rousing sermon to go and kill the infidel and after prayers, you go and dibby up the spoils from the poor suckers who brought their jewellery and what have you and then you exchange it for money and bullets and the whole game starts over. Until, that is, it's time to find a real war so you can go and raise some real hell.

And oh, by the way, these jihadis do drugs too. Sometimes it's ecstasy, sometimes it's coke. A lot of them do drugs to give them dutch courage; and then there's always the hash pipe. It's a great life for the boys and you never have to earn a paycheque or cook a meal. And you can rape all the infidels you like, boys and girls.

What's not to like?

60 Jimmy the Dimmy  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 9:16:43pm

These guys are running out of money. Plus, it puts the lie to the separation between the "military" and "political" "wings." Donations at the mosque are supposed to at least ostensibly be for humanitarian purposes, one would think. And when this collection is gone, they'll have to turn again to the same people for more. They must be farther down the line for "charity" funds than some of the others.

61 Rayra Johnson  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 9:30:25pm
#46 The Gimp 4/9/2004 10:12PM PST
... I can't help but think that, if we REALLY want to destroy radical Islamic terrorism, that cutting a deal with Saddam and mellowing him out while using him as a platform into Iran would work better.
...

Not acceptable.
He'd still be paying "Palestinians" $10-25,000 per shaheed.
He'd still be hosting a string of Marquee-name Terrorists.
He'd still be developing ballistic missiles in contravention of the Cease-Fire agreement he made in '91.
He'd still be playing games with UN WMD inspectors and still be failing to divulge what he did with the WMD recorded as missing in '98 and '00.
He'd still be funding, meeting, medically treating, and training Islamic terrorist groups.
Speaking of '91, we'd STILL be at 13yrs of the Gulf War, and Counting.
We'd still be spending ~$25 Billion / yr maintaining the No Fly zones over north and south Iraq.
He'd still be free to operate his 13 separate "Security" organizations, who collectively are responsible for ~1,000,000 murders in ~25yrs. - and btw, that's 40,000 a yr. What are the worst estimates the Left's propaganda sites are claiming GW2 has cost iraq? 10,000 "civilians"? So our action has killed 1/4 that saddam himself would have, in the last year. And we've STOPPED the murder of 40,000 next year? and the year after that?

And we taking care of the radical shiites.

62 J.D.  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 9:37:52pm

This brave young man was from my hometown.

LEXINGTON, Ky. -- A 21-year-old Marine corporal from Lexington has been killed in Iraq.

Nicholas Dieruf, of Lexington, died in an explosion.

The Marine's father, Charles Dieruf, said he was told of his son's death at 1:20 a.m. by two Marines who knocked on the door of his Lexington residence. He said the Marines told him the explosion occurred about 9 p.m. Thursday.


Charles Dieruf said when he asked his son what he personally thought about people badmouthing our country for being in Iraq, his only response was that he was fighting so they had the right to say what they wanted to say.

Funeral arrangements are incomplete.

Ky. Soldier Dies In Explosion In Iraq

63 Rayra Johnson  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 9:44:33pm
#55 The Gimp 4/9/2004 10:44PM PST
#52 - Powderfinger

In fairness, I have to say that a lot of sites on the left /don't/ delete courteous dissent, either. I find it funny that both sides (right and left) accuse each other of fascism and intolerance when by and large both sides are actually pretty decent, overall.

Far from it. I've been banned multiple times from DU, for doing nothing other than providing links to factual information debunking or contradicting a rant-in-progress.
My registration period is up, heading over to Kos this weekend, we'll see just how long that lasts.

If you can steer me to any central cites of the Left, of the size of kos or DU that DON'T bar non-leftists on sight, I'd be happy to go there. I haven't found any yet.


And Charles - hey you forgot to highlight "refugee camp", too.

64 The Gimp  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 9:53:45pm

#63 - Rayra

DU is a joke, even to many Lefties.

dKos, for all the grief that gets heaped on it, lately, is pretty good about not banning dissent so long as it's courteous. Their ratings system allows a degree of self-policing.

Atrios is another I read a lot, but both dKos and Atrios are more Left than Center-Left.

I don't think there are any Center-Left sites of that size. Likely for the same reason there aren't (m)any Center-Right - most of us political freaks willing to spend hours blogging are pretty partisan.

65 J.D.  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 10:00:53pm
INDIANAPOLIS - A Marine from Indiana whose smiling, cigar-smoking image helped symbolize the fall of Baghdad a year ago suffered severe head injuries in fighting this week in the besieged Iraqi city of Fallujah.

Gunnery Sgt. Nick Popaditch, 36, of Terre Haute, marked Friday's one-year anniversary of the fall at a U.S. military hospital in Landstuhl, Germany. Surgeons removed a piece of shrapnel that lodged near his optic nerve when a rocket-propelled grenade slammed into his tank Tuesday in Fallujah, his wife said Friday.

"He had to have his right eye removed. He's very concerned about that," April Popaditch said from Twentynine Palms, Calif., where her husband is based.

"He is one of those Marines who has his hand raised anytime there's something overseas," April Popaditch said. "He says he goes for the people we lost on September 11."


Marine in 'Fall of Baghdad' Photo Injured

66 Adobe Photoshop  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 10:01:56pm

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67 gardenia  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 11:17:29pm

It yielded 120,000 NIS (new Israeli Shekels) according to the Jpost.
The next round of fundraise will be at gunpoint - mark my words.
Given the following (see below), I will not be surprised if Hamas (which in Hebrew means seizing/taking/confiscating) hasn't already used threats.

Gardenia


Apr. 8, 2004 21:01 | Updated Apr. 8, 2004 22:12
Report: Intifada costing Palestinians $11 bil.
By JPOST.COM STAFF


The Palestinian Intifada is costing the Palestinian economy US $11 billion, according to PA figures published in Gaza Thursday, Globes reported.

Unemployment in the Gaza Strip and West Bank stands at 50%.

The figures quoted by Globes also indicate that 84% of the Palestinian population lives in poverty.
The report's Palestinian authors call the present circumstances as the worst in history of the Palestinians in the territories.

Average per capita income for Palestinians in the territories is now only $2 per day.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

68 Trumpeter  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 11:40:52pm

#46 The Gimp

I can't help but think that, if we REALLY want to destroy radical Islamic terrorism, that cutting a deal with Saddam and mellowing him...


We now have a deal with Saddam, the only acceptable deal.

Most people here understand what it takes to achieve such a deal.

69 David 'Parisian Insider'  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 11:50:21pm

#20 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier

Temple Mount renamed "Al Aqsa Mosque Compound" by AFP


Actually, the AFP aka Agence France Palestine, was the first news agency to coin the expression 'esplanade des mosquees' (roughly Mosques' plaza) for the Temple Mount.
They used it first after the visit of the Temple Mount by Sharon which allegedly (another AFP canard) triggered the second intifada. The expression has been widely used afterwards, so good it was to strip the Jews of the historical ties to Jerusalem and Israel.

70 mike_hunt_muhammad  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 12:01:49am

Where were the halfwit children,that were given as donation,locked in a room with the light off showing them what paradise is like no doubt.

Or looking at the pictures in 'PLAY MUSLIMAH" to get a feel for the 72 dried rasins or virgins or what ever.

71 Ben B  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 12:04:50am

Just as Islam claims itself to be more than a religion, so it claims its mosques to be more than places of worship. Hence the fact that they are often built on the sites of prior churches, synagogues and temples. It's typical Islamic triumphalism. The mosque is seen as a bastion. Innumerable Islam poems go something like this: 'The mosque is my fortress / its dome is my war-helmet / its slender minarets my weapons.'

Ugh. Bring on the wrecking-balls.

72 Camel Prophet  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 1:22:05am

HAMAS and Hizbollah are uniting:

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Does that mean they share suicide belts?

73 BB Booey  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 1:50:40am

Is it my imagination or is there a myterious black boot suspended in the air?

74 Tamar  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 2:02:27am

What a beautiful, sunny, Saturday afternoon it is here on the coast of Israel (Herzliya).

The children are out playing, families are preparing food together and everything is how it should be!

Proof-positive that taking out the terror leadership is the only way to restore normality to this neighbourhood.

Peace!

75 Dave Brown  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 2:17:25am

Sent in response to an "adbusters" article titled: "Why won't anyone say they are Jewish?"

--- Forwarded Message
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 04:08:57 -0700
To: editor@adbusters.org
Cc: info@adbusters.org
Subject: Jus’ regular Joes

AdBusters:

Gosh. You guys are jus’ regular Joes... not like those effete cosmopolitan neocon “Jews”.

So, you “have here a list”, eh? (Like Joe McCarthy?):

“Here at Adbusters, we decided to tackle the issue head on and came up with a carefully researched list of who appear to be the 50 most influential in the US (see above). Deciding exactly who is a neocon is difficult since some neocons reject the term while others embrace it. Some shape policy from within the White House, while others are more peripheral, exacting influence indirectly as journalists, academics and think tank policy wonks. What they all share is the view that the US is a benevolent hyper power that must protect itself by reshaping the rest of the world into its morally superior image. And half of the them are Jewish.” - Kalle Lasn
[Link: www.adbusters.org...]

Or maybe you plan on starting a list for a Canadian version of the “Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee”? (Like Joe Stalin’s?):

Uncle Joe said: "est chelovek, est problema, net cheloveka- net problemy." Or, "a person, a problem; no person- no problem." Then he compiled a list of Jews, and then they disappeared. No problem.
[Link: www.washtimes.com...]

Its a funny coincidence, but last year I had an online discussion with Canadian cartoonist Stephen (“Bob the Angry Flower”) Notley about “occupation”. He had posted a cartoon literally depicting Israelis as evil murderous slugs from another planet. Since I am a Jew (a contraction of the word “Judean”, i.e., “from Judea”), and since half of the world’s Jews currently live in Israel/Judea, I took offence, and so I wrote to Stephen.

In my e-mail I noted that regardless of one’s sympathies in the “Middle East” conflict, unlike most North Americans, one must recognize that Israeli Jews do at least have a real and demonstrable familial link to the disputed territory that they “occupy”. About half of Israeli Jews are “Arab Jews” who derive from societies that never physically moved far from the Judean state that they were driven from by Roman Imperialists (66-300 AD). After 1948 nearly a million Jews simply moved from one part of West Asia (Iraq, Egypt, Iran) to another (Israel). I made this point and asked “when he and his people, Canadian’s of European ancestry, would be giving up their brief but crushing occupation of North America to return to his native homeland in Europe”? On September 2, 2002 Stephen wrote back to me:

“It's true, we Europeans did paste the hell out of the Natives of America (and Canada, which is where I live) when we took over, and there's crime aplenty in that history, but at this time, we're not occupying because we're not facing any form of resistance from the Native population. “

In other words, “no person- no problem”. Dead men tell no tales.

Anyway, back to your little article. Perhaps you will soon be publishing the names of Catholic “Papists” who are subverting the government to the will of Rome?

Hey. Want to investigate something? Why not investigate the corrosive influence of a fascist, anti-humanist, fundamentalist, right-wing, misogynistic, movement? Try this:

“Over the last 30 years the Saudi royal family has contributed upwards of 70 billion US dollars to infiltrate worldwide institutions with propaganda against the West and Israel. This sum, it has been observed, makes the one billion dollars per annum spent by the Soviet Union during the Cold War for Communist propaganda pale by comparison”
[Link: frontpagemag.com...]
[Link: www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org...]

Better not, huh? Might be culturally insensitive (also, 70 billion US dollars must buy a lot of professorships and media space...don’t wanna upset those potential patrons) .

Guess its best to just stick with tried-and-true. Just keep on blaming the Jews. No harm’s ever come of that.

Seattle, WA 98103 USA

76 bolivar[deleted]  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 2:35:38am
77 GFL  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 2:40:37am

ummm I got a question.

how does the mere act of Photographing these activities make the AP pro Arab and Anti western?

I mean really ?

so when this same AP shows photographs of Sharon or Bush doesnt that make them pro Israeli and pro western?

78 GFL  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 2:48:16am

oh and you guys are wondering how it is BBC, ApP , reuters gets all these photos

well, it could be that unlike ABC,CBS NBC CNN MSNBC and FOX they actually get out of their hotel rooms and walk about the country. u know something called investigative journalism, reporting?

as opposed to staying in their hotels and parrotting the military/CPA presss breifings

l

79 Craig  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 3:00:45am

Tamar,
I'm glad to hear that Israel is getting a peaceful Passover, may it last and last!
Bless you and yours.

80 Lurch  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 3:23:36am

Just imagine the libs here in this country if churches were used for gun shows..

of course christianity isn't currently the violent religion that Islam is...

81 daniel  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 4:31:15am

"money and gold"
That's cool how they've been split apart.
Only Gold is REAL money, and time will prove that true.

82 Seymour Paine  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 4:40:36am

From Merriam-Webster's On-line dictionary:

Main Entry: mosque
Pronunciation: 'mäsk
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French mosquee, from Old Italian moschea, from Old Spanish mezquita, from Arabic masjid temple, from sajada to prostrate oneself, worship
: a building used for public worship by Muslims


Perhaps the definition needs to be updated.

83 Tamar  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 5:04:38am
GFL 4/10/2004 04:40AM PST ummm I got a question. how does the mere act of Photographing these activities make the AP pro Arab and Anti western? I mean really ? so when this same AP shows photographs of Sharon or Bush doesnt that make them pro Israeli and pro western?

Most photos originate from the cameras of "Stringers", photographers that are LOOSELY associated with this or that news agency.

The fact that only certain Arab photographers can get in and out of the "hot-spots" alive should make any reasonable person question the objectivity of the reportage.

Offend the Jihadniks and you risk having more than you career finished.

84 gymnast  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 5:28:17am

#78, GFL. You are one naieve individual. Or a willing idiot.

85 Thom™  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 6:24:53am

#26 pacito

I'd like to see the reaction among Westerners if the same media organizations started referring to Al Qaeda as a military organization, and to 9/11 and 3/11 as military operations.

It's only a matter of time. In order to fight this war successfully it is essential to them to rewrite history and redefine words.

#53 Marudkhai

I didn't know that "Wailing Wall" was obsolete and insulting. There have been a few documentaries recently that used that phrase.

Why is it obsolete and insulting?

86 Nancy  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 6:29:51am

Yup --just like your Methodist Bake sale to raise funds to send some youngsters to summer camp! NOT

The depravity is so far-reaching that it is difficult for any sane person to even comprehend a "terrorists and religion" have the same ideology.

87 SteveMG  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 6:33:57am

Okay, you have any AK-47s?

No, go Fish.

SMG

88 Mr Pol  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 6:41:37am

#85 Thom™

We don't "wail": we pray.
89 Thom™  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 6:48:56am

#88 Mr Pol

This is what the Jewish Virtual Library says on the subject.

I need to make a habit of going there first when I have questions like this ...

90 Mr Pol  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 6:58:05am

#89 Thom™

See? "Wailing" is Arab. The kotel is the Western Wall.
91 Thom™  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 7:06:56am

#90 Mr Pol

I'm glad Marudkhai mentioned that. Learn something new every day ...

92 Mr Pol  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 7:09:22am

#91 Thom™

Just call it the Kotel. Muslims won't like it, but who cares?
93 Bill Paisley  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 7:09:53am

Where, oh where is an F-14 with a 2,000 lb JDAM when you need it.

94 Thom™  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 7:24:01am

#92 Mr Pol

Who cares indeed? They've been getting away with defining vocabulary for far too long.

Ha-Kotel it is, and has been for a thousand years..

95 Truth Dr.  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 7:34:30am

This picture should be on the front page of every newspaper in the world because it demonstrates truly the love and peaceful doctrince of the RoP. And if anyone questions why a mosque may be bombed during a war, the answer is quite clear.

There's plenty of room in hell for those Hamasniks, Islamic Jihadniks and the other noodniks who support them.

96 Marc Brainich  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:31:29am

I should think that, after 50 years, the term "refugee camp" would also get the scare quotes.

97 evariste  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 11:47:24am
Only Gold is REAL money, and time will prove that true.

Cuckoo! Cuckoo!
Mr Pol and Mardukhai, thanks for an education. I didn't know that about ha-kotel.

98 EE  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 11:02:24am

#78 GFL
In case you didn't notice, that was a propaganda picture, and the caption was part of the propaganda message.

Obviously there is a symbiotic relationship at least -- if not an outright alliance -- between the Hamas terrorists and the press that is alerted to events that need to be photographed for propaganda purposes.

It is win-win for the terrorists and their press affiliates. The terrorists get the propaganda coverage that they desire. Their press affiliates get a scoop. And if the press affiliates play ball, they have the assurance that they will be notified in advance when there are other events that are newsworthy.

This "honor of jihad" stuff is enough to make me retch, and it seems that it was written by Hamas itself. How does it differ in any significant way from the Hamas Covenant?

In other words, this was basicly a Hamas-made picture and a Hamas-made caption.

I think that anybody with his eyes open and who is thinking can see that there is a sweetheart relationship between the Hamas terrorist organization and their press affiliates who produce their propaganda.


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