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SF "Insurgence Solidarity March"

Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 10:12:32 pm PDT

The Morlocks at Nazimedia have their own photos from the demonstrations in San Francisco.

Titled: Pictures From Insurgence Solidarity March.

But whatever you do, don’t question their patriotism. Dude.

More photos from the San Francisco Moronic Convergence here and here.

Lots and lots of Palestinian flags and kaffiyeh in evidence. The radical Islamic bloc is definitely growing stronger in the heart of idiotarianism.

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1 Lewis: Little Green Goofball  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:17:06pm
I had several angry drivers and shoppers call me expletives and throw things like candies at me (strange that these capitalists would part with their products so easily, but they seemed overwhelmed with their anger that anyone would disagree with their imperialist interests).

Can this guy possibly be for real?

It's like Iowahawk and Zombie teamed up to make this display.

2 Ms. Andi abu dime size hail  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:18:09pm

A nightmarish parade of jackasses.

3 Julia the Horrible  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:20:06pm

"In solidarity"? What does that mean? Does that mean that stupid old man is willing to mutilate dead bodies? I've never seen so much stupidity in one place. I am so glad I do not live in a city that tolerates that kind of bullshit.

4 California Observer  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:21:55pm

American Fifth Column.

5 Mr. Pulpo  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:22:08pm
I had several angry drivers and shoppers call me expletives and throw things like candies at me (strange that these capitalists would part with their products so easily, but they seemed overwhelmed with their anger that anyone would disagree with their imperialist interests).

People still talk like that? That is soooo 60’s.

6 Spiny Norman  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:22:36pm

Isn't it the wrong time of the year for the Doo-Dah Parade???

What a bunch of maroons...

7 someone  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:22:48pm

Beyond parody (or even comment, really).

8 Thousand Sons  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:23:34pm

Nice shirt, old man.

Glad burning the flag is constitutional, eh! Where's my zippo?

9 Raoul Ortega  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:23:46pm

Is that Jerry Garcia in the photo? I thought he'd gone and joined Elvis Presley's backup band.

10 Darleen  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:24:47pm

Is that Alexander Cockburn?

Wonder if the old fart cashes his Soc. Sec. checks and uses his Medicare benefits.

11 Ken  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:26:12pm

If the US is at war and under attack in Iraq, isn't it treasonable to support the enemy ?

12 FH  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:27:10pm

Don't forget Ken, we aren't at war, no congressional declaration of war, and Bush's war is illegal!

13 Beagle Johnson  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:27:21pm

I think this means that America is beginning to realize that we are in this all the way. If the shoppers outnumber the protesters, we're winning.

Did the lead Communist ever stop to think that he's the one obsessed with material wealth? His whole philosophy is based on class, violence, and theft. I'd buy a crate of candles to throw at Communists.

14 transferthem  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:28:01pm

If they are so keen to help the arab nizis, send them over so they can fight with them. /and hopefully die with them too.

15 Thousand Sons  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:29:15pm

#11 Ken

Treason is our right Americans, doncha know.

Whatever you do, dont call him unpatriotic!

16 Spiny Norman  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:29:45pm

#11 Ken

If the US is at war and under attack in Iraq, isn't it treasonable to support the enemy ?

The Dems (or most of them anyway...) do not believe we're at war or under attack, so no, it's not treasonable.

17 FH  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:29:53pm

Yeah. They talk of chickenhawks, what about chickeninsurgens... ugh, I mean chickenfreedomfighters.

18 FH  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:30:09pm

Oh wait... That isn't going to last...

19 zulubaby  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:30:14pm

I want to see what happens to #17.

20 Model4  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:31:28pm

Is that Zuniga's dad?

21 Charles  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:31:48pm

zulubaby: didn't you know? We try not to mention the dreaded comment #17.

22 Model4  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:32:29pm

Which comment?

23 zulubaby  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:32:34pm

Sorry. But it's still there!

24 Charles  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:33:52pm

What is?

25 dee  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:34:09pm

That photograph almost made me vomit. I'll bet that useless waste of space did exactly the same thing during the Vietnam War, except then his 'solidarity' would have been with the VietCong who were torturing and killing his own countrymen.

Now he feels 'solidarity' with Islamic savages who are threatening to burn non-military personnel to death.

If there is ever a terrorist attack in SF (God forbid), I sincerely hope he and his friends are among the victims. Then his barbarian friends in the ME can dance in the streets and celebrate his death - I'm sure they wont stop to wonder about his 'solidarity' or whose side he was on.

Nothing is bad enough for these traitors. May they burn in hell.

26 Mr. Pulpo  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:34:10pm

For mini second I thought the sign said “Solidarity with the Insurgents of Fajitas!”

27 bashir  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:35:34pm

Salaam

In any case I ask all our friends not to be too emotional and weak stomached, and above all not to help the enemy in what he is desperate to achieve, i.e. defeatism and despair.

The Mesopotamian

28 Spiny Norman  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:36:37pm
Sorry. But it's still there!

LMAO!

29 PDM  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:39:41pm

He seems to be standing kind of strangely.
(Sorry I couldn't come up with something better.)

30 Alexis Z  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:41:11pm

[Link: www.indybay.org...]


Same page, scroll down to the comment section.

Charles, you should feel honored-they photoshopped you!

Does this mean an official fatwah has been issued? Just remember, the angrier they get, the better a job it means you are doing!

31 Alexis Z  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:43:08pm

[Link: lgfquiz.blogspot.com...]


They made a quiz!

Post your scores everyone!

32 Tasty Beverage  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:44:58pm

#29 PDM

I think I just shat my pants

LOL

Happy Pesach by the way!

33 qüark2 ♥  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:45:03pm

Not for long. :)

5....4.....3.....2......1.......`

These people who so freely protest freedom are such tools.

34 Glen Wishard  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:45:20pm

The slogan "Solidarity with the Fallujah Resistance/Insurgents" which is seen in several of these photos is from the Iraqi Resistance Solidarity Network - their hate-drenched site also calls for

"Victory to Iraq in the War of National Liberation!!!
Death to US Imperialism!!!
Long Live Palestine, FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA!!!
Death to the Zionist Entity!!!"

Here is their sick page on Fallujah, promising "Link to Canadian Video News Footage of the Mercenary Pigs Getting What They Deserve!!!"

You can bet that the nice old man watched it with the same smirk on his face; likewise the yuppie bastard carrying a similar sign in the Indymedia photos.

35 zorkmidden johnson  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:46:11pm

#31 Alexis Z

I took the quiz yesterday (see Polka Dot thread) and scored a proud and lizardly 92%.

36 Alexis Z  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:46:16pm

Ugh.

Sorry if I am ranting or talking about something that has been discussed, but that last link I posted is, well, frightening.

Obviously taking comments of random posters on an online blog is ridiculous at best, but the links to American eugenics and the Holocaust?

Shudder.

37 Thousand Sons  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:49:21pm

A solid 92% too. Wow.

38 PDM  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:50:02pm

#32 Tasty Beverage,

Happy Pesach to you too... and to all LGFers celebrating the holiday. :)

39 zorkmidden johnson  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:50:42pm

#37 Thousand Sons

Yeah, we really need to get out more...

40 uhhh  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:55:59pm

That's the guy who founded free republic. What's going on here?

41 marty  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:56:04pm

All you need is a five gallon can of gas. Splash it on these freaks and pull out a box of Diamond matches. Fallujah in San Francisco.

42 Thousand Sons  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 8:59:56pm

#39 Zorkmidden johnson

Bah. I've been outside before, its overrated. ;)

A littlegreenfootballs + a littlegreenbeer=complete awesomeness.

43 Rev. Jay  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:00:38pm

#31 I did pretty bad; I missed 3. Now I have to turn in my VRWC and IZC cards; One more and I'd have needed to turn in my RWC card.

44 qüark2 ♥  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:01:18pm

@31 Alexis Z

This guy is all for censorship. He's taken out of context
and tweeked it to his advantage.
And he's a coward, he has no comments activated. So he says whatever he likes and not worry about unpleasant responses.

My score was 77%

45 Allah  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:05:36pm
46 twistarella  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:08:08pm

Well, this pointless-- I've checked 5 times and it is STILL THERE! I....can't....find....a......pattern! Anomalous Behavoir! The Statistician's Curse!

47 Jimothy  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:09:13pm

Hmmm... it seems that the bloke in the pic was dragged out of his nursing home, plonked down in the protest, had a placard shoved into his hand, and was told to stay still for the cameras.
"Now, Daryl sweetie, hold this for me, won't you? There's a dear". Blank stare. "Uh, bugger. Just hold this, siddown, and shuddup".

The Left at work.

48 zorkmidden johnson  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:09:38pm

Allah

ROFLMAO!!!!!

49 qüark2 ♥  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:10:02pm

@45 Allah

rothflmao!

50 FH  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:11:32pm

Allah, truly you are the Creator of Worlds!

51 RightIsRight  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:11:54pm

OMG

The Old Irrelevant Brigade is out in full force.


We must all fear for our unborn.

52 Buckaroo  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:12:24pm

47 posts and no one brought up a Santa Claus reference?

We must be half in the bag ...
:-)

53 Thousand Sons  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:13:04pm

#45 Allah

Now that's serious awesomeness!

54 NTropy  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:15:28pm

Charles

If memory serves, doesn't your brother live up that way? How does he manage?

55 FH  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:19:00pm

OT: Debka is reporting that the 3 Japanese hostages have been released.

56 Egfrow  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:21:39pm

I know it may have been asked already. but I've been away from the PC all day. Can someone kindly explain what is going with remarks about comment #17?


OT:
The Left even hates Walmart also. This article reaks of lefist proganda BS.


Wal-Mart Hits a Wall in California

57 piglet  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:23:22pm

At work we have been indulging by buying great whole bean coffee and grinding it fresh. I found some wonderful coffee from Kenya (at Trader joes).

Drinking a hot sip, I commented "uhm, tastes like...colonialism." :-)

Actually, I was happy to be spending some money that might trickle back to help Kenya.

And I bought a metal trash can at IKEA.
Stylism, inexpensive, and made in Poland.

58 ajf  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:23:43pm

Are they unpatriotic yet?

59 Allah  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:24:53pm
60 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:25:17pm

We haven't heard too much from the warfaring peacenik cyberkamikazies lately...so much for the splodeydope sympathizers' schlock and bawl...

61 piglet  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:29:50pm

OT
I'm moving this week. Found a T-shirt I bought
in Denmark back in 1999. It's black with big white leters that read
"No fucking Nazis."

Maybe some of Europe can be saved.

62 Mozart  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:30:49pm

Intimidation and obstuction. That's what it is. The ballot box isn't working for them. Here's a tenet of Leftist religion: Democracy is good when it goes our way.

63 Jennifer Peterson  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:31:04pm

Online Poll Alert:

Go to [Link: www.aljazeera.net...] and put in your votes on various polls.

64 FH  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:32:32pm

#56

There is no comment #17.

65 Thousand Sons  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:33:34pm

Heres some ideas for captions:

-Will betray own country for food.

-Why lie? Its for the intifada.

66 SwampWoman  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:34:28pm

#61 Piglet

Where you movin' to, Piglet?

Reference those pictures. Damn, I hate to have people get in my way when I'm shoppin'. I'd have been stompin' on fingers all the way across the street if I'd been there. Dumbasses.

Now if there are any like protests around here (NOT likely) I have to decide whether spike heel shoes or work boots would be more appropriate for stomping on hands and kicking at asses...my thoughts are probably work boots. I'd hate to lose my balance on them spike heels and maybe defile myself by actually touching one (shudder).

67 Rev. Jay  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:36:40pm

My only complaint with the guy (from the LGF quiz) is that he missed some seriously good lines from several sources.

I was thinking about the comments around here and some of the commentors over the past hours, and I think I finally came up with a good way of explaining what actually goes on around here.

The comments around here reflect the breadth of opinion from the "center" to the "far-right" in our national political dicussions on national security and the relationship between Islam and the West. I cannot think of any non-troll regular poster that would be happily accepted at the Democratic National Convention in July of this year. The decision we have all made is this: our national security is more important than any other consideration in times of crisis, and thus the only way to survive is to confront the problem, since there is only one victor in war.

Because of the decisions we've made, anyone that does not subscribe to this decision will view us all as vile, disgusting and, generally speaking, less than human. There are many reasons people will not admit we are at war, but, regardless of their reasons, they are still wrong; our enemies declared war long ago and have acted in such a fashion for over 30 years. Thus the discussion in this forum is to question our response and discussion of the possiblities for further action.

The other issue involved in these forums is that there are people who argue bloody solutions to the problems with face, but, it is not death that is the contension, it is how much death will be necessary to win?

The only real problem the can crop up with some posters, myself included, is when something happens that makes us quite angry, thus we allow yourselves to say things we normally would not advocate due to the anger. Other than that, this is easily the most intelligent and humanitarian bunch of people I've never met but that I've been lucky enough to be a part.

68 zorkmidden johnson  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:36:41pm

#59 LOL!

Allah! Be Merciful!

69 ajf  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:37:45pm
70 PostalWorker  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:37:48pm

How much Night Train Express before that white haired bum would cary the sign.

71 Dianna  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:38:06pm

Somehow, Protest Warrior failed me, or I'd have been out counter-protesting these idiots. Oh, well. Mea culpa.

72 binza  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:44:41pm

#63

Check out the link to "Aljazeera exclusive in pictures: Fallujah"

16 pictures of dead, mostly infants. Gotta love their "exclusives."

Meanwhile, Haaretz: 09:10 Al Jazeera TV airs tape showing bodies of two men it says were U.S. intelligence officers killed in Falluja, Iraq.

73 Skookumchuk  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:44:43pm

Now some potentially good stuff. As I just posted over on Roger Simon's blog, via The Command Post we learn that the BBC Arabic Service - yes, the BBC - asked their Iraqi llisteners the following question:

Do you regard the pulling down of Saddam’s statue in Baghdad on 9th of April last year as the start of liberation of an Arab capital or occupation?

Two to one, they responded "liberation"

So this is good. I'm sitting up waiting for the Easter Bunny to come down the chimney at midnight, but my wife claims I have my holidays confused and anyway she wants me to come to bed. Happy Easter y'all.

74 Rev. Jay  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:46:34pm

#59 Allah, peace be upon us from your grace, this lowly kafir wonders if there are any fatwas prevent Allah, the great and merciful, from preforming stand comedy? This lowly son of a pig and monkey would gladly pay the tax to see the spectacle.

75 SwampWoman  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:46:44pm

Hee hee, I took the VRWC test and scored a 9/10. My poor husband only scored a 7/10 and retired to bed in humiliation (those years as a teacher have adversely effected his brain, apparently).

76 patrickafir  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:47:43pm

I used to hand out day-old sandwiches to these loons when I was cooking in Union Square (Crowne Plaza on Sutter Street) as I was walking home to my opulent abode in the Tenderloin. Ah, there just ain't no loons like San Francisco loons...

77 Buckaroo  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:49:23pm

#67 R J

That is an **awesome** post!!!!! Every troll should be made to read it and then decide if they still really want to wander in here ...

78 NTropy  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:49:36pm

Can I play the Photoshop game too?

79 dexter green  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:50:06pm

#55, FH:

Yeah, I posted about their impeding release a few threads back and nobody was interested then, either. But I am, especially in light of Japanese Reader's intimations that the whole thing may have been a set up.

-dg

80 Rev. Jay  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:51:18pm

#74 Preview, Preview, sleep!

"preventing" and "stand up"

81 Dianna  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:52:16pm

#78 Ntropy

Damn, you have that right! I wade through these folks every day on my way to work, and some of them would probably hold such a sign.

Better than the Street Sheet! I might even give them money to spare them the humiliation!

82 Buckaroo  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:52:55pm

#73 Sko

To you and anyone else who is celebrating it -- Happy Easter!

83 piglet  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:57:25pm

I'm just moving across town. buts me a little closer to work and "the action."

On TOPIC...

Maybe the few photos are not truely representative, but I notice that the people being held up are a diverse multiethnic group (as one would expect in LA) and even the huge capitalist ad on the billboard has diversity, yet the protestors seem uniformly white.

84 dexter green  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:57:26pm

#79, dumbass green:

Impending is spelled with an "n" between the "e" and the "d," ya dumb bastard.

They let YOU teach English to high schoolers?

-dg

85 NTropy  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:58:46pm

BTW

Zombie mentioned elsewhere that there would pictures forthcoming from that direction as well.

86 patrickafir  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:59:16pm

#78   NTropy

He won't get any more sammiches from me. (The guys I'd give 'em to really called them "sammiches.) See my post 76.

87 Barbara Skolaut  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:04:26pm

Allah - You rule, O Glorious One!

88 Mumblix Grumph  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:14:35pm

Oh my God...if we've lost Santa Claus, we've lost America!

89 Swampwoman  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:18:23pm

I've read both far and against the Japanese captives (who are either being released or are released) being LLL; haven't heard anything definitive.

90 SwampWoman  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:19:29pm

#89 dumbassedness must be catching.....

"for" NOT "far"!!!!

91 SwampWoman  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:22:17pm

3:30 a.m. here, and I need to make my pasture rounds and then off to bed because the closer it gets to dawn, the more incomprehensible I gets.

92 dexter green  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:25:34pm

#89, SW:

Did you see A Japanese Reader's post?

Regardless of their political leanings, I'm glad they're being (have been?) released alive.

And yes, DA Syndrome is contagious. So stand clear.

-dg

93 S  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:25:38pm

Arab TV Airs Tape of 'Two Dead U.S. Officers'

DUBAI (Reuters) - Arab television station Al Jazeera aired a tape on Sunday showing the bodies of two men it said were U.S. intelligence officers killed in the Sunni town of Falluja.

"The audio recording accompanying the footage said the two men were intelligence officers working in Iraq," Al Jazeera said.

The video tape showed the bloodied bodies of two foreign men lying on the ground, one shot in the back and another in the leg, surrounded by several Iraqi men.

It was not clear when the footage was filmed or by whom.

Several foreigners have been killed, kidnapped or gone missing over the past week, putting pressure on U.S. allies, including Japan, Britain, Spain and Italy.

Those missing include two U.S. soldiers, several contractors and two German embassy security guards.

Leaders in the besieged city of Falluja are calling on Iraqi guerrillas battling U.S. Marines to start a truce on Sunday morning to end a week of fighting that has cost hundreds of lives.

U.S. Marines launched a crackdown there last Monday following the killing and mutilating of four U.S. private security guards in the city the previous week.

? Reuters 2004

94 Morgan  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:30:39pm

These loons are offensive, but they are powerless. The real leftists loons we need to worry about are the ones in Congress.

95 Gary O'Brien  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:31:49pm

I thought the "quiz " was a set-up and marked every answer LGF.

After researching the fifty year history of the Jews
attempting to destroy the Vaterland through terrorism,I realized my error.Too late.

96 Let's Roll  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:33:57pm

Did you catch that link to "Enemy Combatant Radio"? Swell.

Here's their mission statement:

We are a grassroots, collectively managed radio station dedicated to broadcasting the vibrant voices of the Bay Area community and beyond. Our goal is to train and empower youth, womyn, minority, working/lower class, impoverished, persecuted, queer and alternative voices to take back their airwaves and use them as a tool for radical change in their local and global communities. We are committed to researching the news and issues that are blacked out by the popular media and creating a space for them to be heard and utilized. Our very existence is a statement about our refusal to accept what is filtered down to us through mainstream TV, print and radio - we are disrupting business as usual by re-appropriating our lines of communication and speaking truth to power. We are the people, we are the media and we are dissenting from the ground up. Tune in...

The Left would be funny if they weren't so dangerous.

97 Trumpeter  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:41:03pm

Hey, give them a state! To whom? The peaceniks!

Somewhere near the border of an Islamic country, let them defend it with all their flowers, peace and love.

98 piglet  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:41:26pm
There has often been speculation about the names of IKEA furniture....
Thus bathroom items are named after Scandinavian lakes, rivers and bays; sets of bookcases after occupations;

Hey this "Vichy" bookcase looks even better than the
"Jenin" model that was sold last year.

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

99 Rayra Johnson  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:46:14pm
#58 ajf 4/10/2004 11:23PM PST
Are they unpatriotic yet?

lol
Absolutely.

#67 Rev. Jay Great Post

100 dexter green  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 10:51:14pm

#95, Gary O:

Really grumpy tracked down the sources for all the quotes and posted them
here in yesterday's "polka dot" thread. Scroll down to comment 137 for the part 2.

-dg

101 dan  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 11:05:22pm

great essay by tony blair about what's going on in iraq right now

tony blair on the iraq insurgency

seriously, what the hell is bush's problem? every time the shit hits the fan he says nothing. i've read several articles where the authors are begging bush to LEAD, to remind us why we need to stand firm here, and he's MIA. i honestly feel if he loses this election it will be his fault as much or more than the media's.

102 Buckaroo  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 11:20:23pm

#96 LR

"womyn"

OMG it's been years since I've seen that!!!!
:-)

103 bailodor  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 11:36:02pm

Is that Saddam out on day release?

104 dexter green  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 11:36:47pm

#101, dan:

But our greatest threat, apart from the immediate one of terrorism, is our complacency. When some ascribe, as they do, the upsurge in Islamic extremism to Iraq, do they really forget who killed whom on 11 September 2001? When they call on us to bring the troops home, do they seriously think that this would slake the thirst of these extremists, to say nothing of what it would do to the Iraqis?

Tony Blair gets it. And I agree with you that GWB could learn some things from him, like how to lead, visibly.

-dg

105 sweetpea  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 11:53:23pm

this is OT but.. i'm an aussie bloke who's going to south east USA (GA) in june and i was wondering if there'll be any LGF get togethers in that area while i'm there. I'm lookin' forward to meeting some good right thinking people and eating some of your excellent BBQ! I dont mind a beer or two as well.. i'll even drink that stuff you ppl call beer!

106 Buckaroo  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 11:54:59pm

#105 sp

No worries - several places in the SE will have Foster's -- sometimes even on tap!
:-)

107 abc  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:02:07am
Finally, I find San Francisco’s position ironic. The position this city has taken concerning military exercises puts it right in line with many of the extreme militia groups. These groups believe that military urban exercises in our nations’ cities are a cover for a United Nations (or other international or national organizations) plot to undermine or take over the United States. Their opposition is as stringent as San Francisco’s. Strange bedfellows.

General Krulak’s description: "In one moment in time, our service members will be feeding and clothing displaced refugees - providing humanitarian assistance. In the next moment, they will be holding two warring tribes apart - conducting peacekeeping operations. Finally, they will be fighting a highly lethal mid-intensity battle. All on the same day, all within three city blocks. It will be what we call the three block war."

INTEGER (IN-TE-GER) MEANS UNDIMINISHED

108 Azrael  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:05:59am

#105 sweetpea
Where in GA are you heading? I live about an hour north of Atlanta (which now a days IS living in Atlanta).

109 Eric Pobirs  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:08:07am

#98

'Billy' is an occupation?

110 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:10:26am

OT

Happy Easter

111 Eric Pobirs  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:11:59am

I've really got to wonder if the LLL has fully considered the consequences of their beleifs.

If the Islamofscists win they're all dead or enslaved.

If the conflict drags out too long (as their efforts make likely) the America that wins the war will be a much meaner and nastier place with vastly less patience for its perceived enemies, foreign and domestic.

Note the domestic part. That means you, moonbats.

112 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:19:40am

#111

You don't understand. What you are doing is called "thinking". The process of thinking leads you to conclusions that make feel one way or another.

What the LLLs do is called "feeling". They get an imediate feeling about something and then think of ways to explain and justify it.

What they are engaged in is a Pavlovian process. War is bad. Bush fights a war. Salivate. Think of smart-ass posters to make Bush look bad and reasons to hate him.

113 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:19:51am

OT - while all the backseat driving of the country and conflict in Iraq is occurring, a highly significant story is developing in Israel U.S. to declare Israel won't have to withdraw to 1949 border

This is absolutely wonderful news in my opinion but I must add the following warning, 'The Seething Threat Meter' exceeded operational safety limits and will remain pegged in the 'Middle-East and Persian - Tilt, Tilt, Tilt' zone for the forseeable future.

114 Andjam  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:27:59am

So much for being anti-war.

115 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:39:16am

#113:

From your article:


Israel also expects that the Bush administration will support the planned route of the separation fence. In exchange for such support, Israel has promised that no "enclaves" will be created that trap hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, and that the West Bank town of Ariel will not be connected to the main separation fence.

Call me ignorant, but I'm not quite clear on the bit about the town of Ariel. It won't be "connected" to the fence. Which means ... what?

-dg

116 Bay Area Hawk  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:41:48am

Did this happen today? I walked out of the Powell Street BART station a little before 4 PM the couple of blocks to my job at the Hilton, and saw no signs of any activity. I was at my other job at the corner of 14th and Broadway in Oakland from about 10:30 AM til about 2 and saw no signs of any activity. This is the first I've heard about this. Usually when something like this is going on, the BART Cars are jammed with Baby Boomer aged Groovy People from Montclair and Piedmont. No sign of that. This is complete news to me. No geeks on Cyril Magnin or Ellis Street. Was this a stealth demonstration?

117 sweetpea  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 12:46:14am

hey Azreal, i'll be be south? of Atlanta near Valdosta. i think it's about 3 hours away from Atlanta. Buckaroo, NO-ONE in Australia drinks Fosters! I think they stopped making it here in the late 80's.

118 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 1:00:51am

#117:

I know Foster's was still available when I was in Melbourne in 1999, though it wasn't popular. Vic Bitter and Carlton Cold were much bigger. In Queensland, it was XXXX (I think). James Boag in Tasmania. Of course, since I don't drink beer, I can't say how they compare. (I think that, as an Aussie Bloke, that's your department!)

Georgia in the summertime, eh? Are you a masochist or something? ;-) Have fun in the ol' US of A. You'll definitely be in the right part of the country for meeting right-minded people like yourself.

-dg

119 abc  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 1:29:43am

Ultimately, liars, lie to themselves.

Millions of Americans are looking on with a mixture of numbness, shock and revulsion as the US military carries out a bloody campaign to crush the uprising. The atrocities that are being inflicted on the Iraqi population take their place beside those of the Nazis during World War II and those committed by US imperialism against the anti-colonial struggle in Vietnam.

Socialists:Defend the Iraqi masses


The socialists never fail to give a very good real world example of a liar. They never really change.

120 big L  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 1:31:38am

#57--piglet--well I got a sweater as part of a uniform--it is made in USA!! How about that!--By Scholastic Apparel,iirc.
OT Charles was that picture really you, you don't look like a lizard at all.
But take Mary Travers of Peter Paul and Mary,on Larry King last nite----puhlease...

121 bull  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:08:36am

hey guys........the johnkerry.com portal is back up!!!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

charles,
new topic!

and once again, here is how the bull displays his love for jfk:
[Link: contribute2.johnkerry.com...]

122 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:24:50am

Okay, this is what you selfish Americans get for sleeping while I'm awake and bored: Summary of remaining JF'nK support pages #18550 - 18750.

-dg

123 abba dabba  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:26:39am
124 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:32:51am

#123:

See the Polka Dot thread from Friday.

-dg

125 Cybrludite  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:41:46am

Waaaaay OT:

You know you've been reading too much LGF when you wake up to steady thunder & a lightning strobe-light and consider checking in here to see what Ed Moran had to say about it before running around unplugging the computer...

126 shocked  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:42:04am

Great link! I love it Abba Dabba.

BTW lgf! Read NY times lately. Now your favorite government is lying under oathe too... You probably never saw that coming.

127 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:46:01am

Twenty bucks says #123 & #126 are the same person.

Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller?

-dg

128 Morgan  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:47:33am

THE PASSOVER STORY The cycle of violence between the Jews and the Egyptians continues with no end in sight in Egypt. After eight previous plagues have destroyed the Egyptian infrastructure and disrupted the lives of ordinary Egyptian citizens, the Jews launched a new offensive this week in the form of the plague of darkness.

Western journalists were particularly enraged by this plague. "It is simply impossible to report when you can't see an inch in front of you," complained a frustrated Andrea Koppel of CNN. "I have heard from my reliable Egyptian contacts that in the midst of the blanket of blackness, the Jews were annihilating thousands of Egyptians. Their word is solid enough evidence for me."

While the Jews contend that the plagues are justified given the harsh slavery imposed upon them by the Egyptians, Pharaoh, the Egyptian leader, rebuts this claim. "If only the plagues would let up, there would be no slavery. We just want to live plague-free. It is the right of every society."

Saeb Erekat, an Egyptian spokesperson, complains that slavery is justifiable given the Jews' superior weaponry supplied to them by the superpower G-d. The Europeans are particularly enraged by the latest Jewish offensive. "The Jewish aggression must cease if there is to be peace in the region. The Jews should go back to slavery for the good of the rest of the world," stated an angry French President Jacques Chirac.

Even several Jews agree. Adam Shapiro, a Jew, has barricaded himself within Pharaoh's chambers to protect Pharaoh from what is feared will be the next plague, the death of the firstborn.

Mr. Shapiro claims that while slavery is not necessarily a good thing, it is the product of the plagues and when the plagues end, so will the slavery. "The Jews have gone too far with plagues such as locusts and epidemic which have virtually destroyed the Egyptian economy," Mr. Shapiro laments. "The Egyptians are really a very nice people and Pharaoh is kind of huggable once you get to know him," gushes Shapiro.

The United States is demanding that Moses and Aaron, the Jewish leaders, continue to negotiate with Pharaoh.

While Moses points out that Pharaoh had made promise after promise to free the Jewish people only to immediately break them and thereafter impose harsher and harsher slavery, Richard Boucher of the State Department assails the latest offensive. "Pharaoh is not in complete control of the taskmasters," Mr. Boucher states. "The Jews must return to the negotiating table and will accomplish nothing through these plagues."

The latest round of violence comes in the face of a bold new Saudi peace overture. "If only the Jews will give up their language, change their names to Egyptian names and cease having male children, the Arab nations would be inclined toward peace with them," Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah declared.

129 Jed  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:49:06am

It is hard for me to fathom the amount of mental disintegration that has enveloped these minds. I keep asking, why? Can human brains be so defectively wired to produce such heinous venom? Is there any hope that reason and sanity will again emerge someday?

130 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:52:08am

#128, Morgan:

You write that? It's pretty good.

-dg

131 Trumpter  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:54:43am

Gentlemen, check out
Steven den Beste: Fog of War

132 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 3:04:21am

#131, Trumpeter:

Yeah, that's a good one. The Belmont Club piece that den Beste links to is good, as well. And, just for good measure, so is Wretchard's entry for today:
Good News, Bad News

-dg

133 Trumanite  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 3:09:10am

Kerry's Kids

134 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 3:13:44am

115 Dexter

I'm hoping Israeli's will tell us the pro's and the con's to this when all the details are known. However I believe Bush has finally thrown down the gauntlet to islamofascists, eurabia and un - essentially stating sd & stfu.

135 Morgan  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 3:29:33am

130 dexter

No, just found it on the internet. Thought the LGF crowd would appreciate it.

136 scaramouche  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 3:36:19am

Re: the photo--old dude did waaay too much mescaline in the desert with the Merry Pranksters back in the 60s.

137 Ed Moran: abu El Hijo de Juan Grande  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 3:54:06am
Iraq insurgents threaten to execute American

By DAVID IVANOVICH
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle



WASHINGTON -- Insurgents in Iraq threatened to kill and mutilate a captured Halliburton Co. truck driver Saturday if U.S. forces don't halt their offensive in the violence-torn city of Fallujah.

The insurgents released a video showing Tommy Hamill, a 43-year-old tanker truck driver from Macon, Miss., who is believed to have been abducted during a raid on a fuel convoy Friday.

"If you don't respond within 12 hours he will be treated worse than those who were killed and burned in Fallujah," the captors said on a tape sent to the Arabic news network Al-Jazeera, The Associated Press reported from Baghdad.

Link

Main cover of the Chron has picture of Halliburton driver

I'm saying a prayer now for this man, because I'm certain nothing but an act of G-d will save him.

138 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 3:58:43am

I took the LGF quiz and got a lowly

11 out of 14 for 79%


I was really surprised at the Iraqi blogger Alaa of "The Messopotamian" being included (#4), but I'll proudly claim him as one of our own. Since English is isn't his native language, that one kind of threw me.


I'm sure his comment is much more colorful in the original Arabic.


/irony lost on L3 asshats

For shame. I'll try to do better next time, O Lizardoid Massster...

139 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:09:41am

A criticism of American tactics

US tactics condemned by British officers

Note this casual smear:

The officer, who agreed to the interview on the condition of anonymity, said that part of the problem was that American troops viewed Iraqis as untermenschen - the Nazi expression for "sub-humans".
Speaking from his base in southern Iraq, the officer said: "My view and the view of the British chain of command is that the Americans' use of violence is not proportionate and is over-responsive to the threat they are facing. They don't see the Iraqi people the way we see them. They view them as untermenschen. They are not concerned about the Iraqi loss of life in the way the British are. Their attitude towards the Iraqis is tragic, it's awful.
"The US troops view things in very simplistic terms. It seems hard for them to reconcile subtleties between who supports what and who doesn't in Iraq. It's easier for their soldiers to group all Iraqis as the bad guys. As far as they are concerned Iraq is bandit country and everybody is out to kill them."
The phrase untermenschen - literally "under-people" - was brought to prominence by Adolf Hitler in his book Mein Kampf, published in 1925. He used the term to describe those he regarded as racially inferior: Jews, Slaves and gipsies.

ergo American's are Nazis.

140 Colt  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:16:20am

OT - BBC desperately tries to smear USMC.

When reporting on the Fallujah ceasefire, they said it had been quiet except for a few outbreaks of violence. The one example they gave was that two US Marines were wounded, one in the head, one in the leg, while attacking a suspected sniper.

!!!

Perhaps the Marines fell on bullets left by suspected insurgents?

141 bigel[deleted]  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:18:24am
142 bigel[deleted]  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:20:12am
143 justdanny  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:26:57am

#127 dexter green

Yes, I agree. Pretty sure its coming from metafilter. Tracked back links in the referrer logs and seems they're trying to launch a little skirmish this way.

"Damn those windshields", I read one of the moths over there say.

144 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:27:57am

#141, bigel:

Wow! If that turns out to be true ... just "wow."

-dg

145 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:29:42am

#141

I heard that story when it broke. The one question I have is: Were the files originals or copies of the original files? Does the government give out originals for FOIA requests?

146 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:32:30am

re #141

The one thing that makes this unlike Watergate is that Kerry isn't using presidential authority to impede and investigation. He will have to wait until after he is elected to do that. By then it is pointless, however.

147 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:36:21am

139 Dar ul Harbarian

The officer, who agreed to the interview on the condition of anonymity

Journalist translation: A high ranking militant spokesmen for the Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr stated:

148 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:41:26am

#142, bigel:

First showed up in this thread. Something to do with #17 being [deleted].

-dg

149 abc  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:41:42am

131

Fog of War.

This should be updated to something along the lines:

Media Mind Fuck of War

The writers of those articles may as well be slaughtering the Iraqis themselves.

General Principle: Media distortions about America increases the enemy death toll.


It's amazing when you think about it. The Iraqis are dying because the media is lying to them, the clerics are lying to them, those who claim America can be beaten, or is somehow weaker than the muslims, and they are lying to themselves when they try to take on the marines with an AK47 or an RPG.

Lying can cause death! Amazing.

150 [Engineer]  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:44:11am

Bigel

Comment #17 can't be discussed on orders from Charles.

151 Voidseeker  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:46:43am

#13 - Beagle Johnson

I'd buy a crate of candles to throw at Communists.


LOL!!! Maybe that will be a new national past time. We could even make special candles for the occasion. Sell them at half price with extra long wicks to swing them with.

152 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:47:04am

OT

Latest from the Belmont Club


The Wider War

How come stuff this good is never on the mainstream media?

153 cba  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:48:04am

#142 bigel:

but can someone tell me they story of why Comment # between 16 & 18 is now an unmentionable?

It all happened on this thread. Start at Innismir's comment (#7) and continue at least until #163--referably until #233 (you can skip the comments that don't apply).

154 WriterMom  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:49:29am

F*cking CNN.

Could the announcers look happier about the "chaos" in Iraq. It's like they put all their quarters into happy, vibrating chairs.

155 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:50:47am

re #17

Hunh?

/palm going over top of head gesture

156 Voidseeker  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:52:52am

#17 - FH
#18 - FH
#19 - Zulubaby
#21 - Charles
#23 - Zulubaby
#24 - Charles

Best. on. topic. inside. joke. for. off. topic. subject. matter. evar!!

[Have not gotten past 24 just yet, willing to bet it shows up again... =) ]

157 merav  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:53:38am

Regarding the photo of the man in solidarity with the Falluja "insurgents:"

Ignoring the fact that they are fighting against his fellow Americans, interesting how anyone could express SOLIDARITY with persons who mutilate dead bodies, hang them for public display and further humiliation, and then dance and sing in celebration.

And isn't Falluja where several US Marines lost their lives? How must Zuniga feel, seeing his precious active-duty Marines, who WERE there by military orders, disrespected by this man and his cohorts?

While the protesters certainly have the right to express their views, interesting what those views are: not so much "bring home our sons, this was a mistake," as "solidarity with the bloodthirsty mobs who killed those sons, (oh, and then had an orgy of mutilation afterwords with the corpses)."

It's one thing to be anti-war. It's quite another to call for solidarity with the enemy. Which, after all, would only PROLONG the war.

Happy holidays, all.

158 The Happy Dyslectic  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 4:55:45am

I can understand this one!

Teachers for Dumbing Down

Or a garage for every bike?

159 abc  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:00:06am

The Iranian Mullahs think themselves bullet proof.

This is a mistake. We can always attack them directly.

160 Free Speech Is Only For Uber-Libs  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:03:28am

Got this link off of Allah's site:

[Link: www.indcjournal.com...]


Notice the "He knew" sponsored by Move On.
They are still working the bogus lying Dean angle.
Good luck democrats - the stupid morally bankrupt people (such as that old man above) are on your side.

161 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:05:05am

Since some of the more knowledgeable folks are here now: can anyone answer my question in #115?

-dg

162 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:15:31am

#161

I don't know about this but it sounds like a topologic problem. Connecting the town probably cuts through some Palestinian road or something.

163 EE  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:18:25am

#161
What I read was a plan to surround Ariel on three sides with a security fence. The fourth side would be open, but there would be some other means of protection -- maybe patrols by soldiers or something like that.

164 ShiksaGrrrl  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:18:32am

That man looks asif he would post any political sign, no matter the direction it takes, for the cheapest bottle of wine possible.

Idiot?
Yes!

Not someone that gets my anger up though!

165 ShiksaGrrrl  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:21:13am

# Mr. Pulpo Do people still speak like that?

ROFLOL

Unfortunately I hear that they do!

As someone who was born on the tail end of the boomer generation, in 1959 but who came of age during the 1980s punk era......along with all Islamists I propose we bomb the hell out of all remaining left wing baby boomers as well!


These 1960's boomers annoy me with their silliness

/sarcasm off

166 Jim Brown[deleted]  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:23:36am
167 ShiksaGrrrl  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:27:42am
#56 Egfrow

I know it may have been asked already. but I've been away from the PC all day. Can someone kindly explain what is going with remarks about comment #17?


Unless someone else has answered your question, I did see a funny remark the other day on a thread for #17 where someone wasnt really saying anything but claiming the spot for their own.

Perhaps this joke is just being carried on.

At least that is my understanding of it but I too havent been here much lately.


;-)

168 qüark2 ♥  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:29:48am

@142 bigel

Only the Shadoooooowwww knows. ;)

169 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:31:51am

#166:

Moonbat Alert!

170 EE  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:32:21am

#162
Yes, there is a topological problem.

Since there cannot be connectivity between Jewish and Arab parts on a single plane, I think that one plan could be to have construction of highways, which can be built without staying on one plane.

Or overpasses.

Why should that be such a big deal? Why is thinking being limited to a single plane?

There is the expression: "think out of the box". In this case it should be: think out of the plane, think multiplanar.

171 [Engineer]  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:33:07am

#166 Jim Brown

You want to put people in camps for their political views? Are you a troll hoping to get support for this dumb idea or just dumb yourself? I may not like what they say, but they have the right say it, to march in support of it, to build those pink tanks and all the other childish things they do.

172 EE  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:34:07am

#166
agent provocateur

173 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:38:59am

139 Dar ul Harbarian

There's an article from yesterday concerning the Telegraph at this site but i noticed one they've posted one concerning today's story Sunday Telegraph plays the Nazi card

174 Ger aka boo irs meanies  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:45:28am

#166-

SD, STFU, FOAD.

175 nvdoyle  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:51:53am

OT:

Okay, I'm really worried now.

We're having a 'unilateral suspension of offensive operations' against the enemy in Fallujah.

The FOXNews screen crawl said yesterday (paraphrasing, didn't write it down, darnit):

'Kimmit says we could have taken all of Fallujah if we wanted to'.

Karbala and Najaf are in enemy hands, and we aren't doing anything about it because of the religious pilgrimages going on now.

What. The. F***?

Have we lost our minds? Do we have -any- idea what this looks like, to the psychology of our enemies?

I'll try to translate:

Shia and Sunni forces have fought the most powerful military in the world to a standstill, and forced them into negotiations. They have cowed them into not attacking on religious holidays. They have tricked the most powerful military in the world into letting them fortify and resupply their positions. They have, by forcing negotiations, ensured that Sadr is seen as a power to be reckoned with; his face has increased, immeasurably. The most powerful military in the world has been prevented from even arresting Sadr, let along killing him.

How is this anything but a loss for us?

Am I missing something, or is Kimmit...misguided? What's going on here?

176 qüark2 ♥  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:56:33am

OT

If you haven't read BelmontClub's latest, it's important that you do. Very chilling and dangerous. The Wider War
[Link: belmontclub.blogspot.com...]

It will be interesting to see how CENTCOM has planned and will deal with the plans of Iran and Syria in debasing all the work done to rid Iraq of Hussein and his ilk.

177 Bubbaman  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:59:28am

Why don't these losers get some jobs? Ever notice that there is a class of "professional" protestors who seem to have all the time in the world to stand around shouting some rhetoric and carrying signs? It's a hell of a lot easier to mooch off of society than it is to be productive and contribute something.

Enough about the Iraqis, let's talk about the losers in S.F....

178 Steve  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 6:01:31am

Al hamdu lilah for the FBI! arrest those bastards!

179 dexter green  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 6:04:20am

Dar ul Harbarian & EE: Thanks for clearing that up.

-dg

180 bigel[deleted]  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 6:12:49am
181 Clem  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 6:23:48am

re: Allah's photoshops

Allah uses AOL???

182 ushie  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 6:44:47am

I forget already who posted this but: "Our goal is to train and empower youth, womyn, minority, working/lower class, impoverished, persecuted, queer and alternative voices to take back their airwaves and use them as a tool for radical change in their local and global communities."

Translation: We are white overprivileged Marxists who wax permanently indignant that society has not automatically rewarded us for our superior brainpower. Thus, we must foment faux class warfare, although we really don't give a rat's ass about any of the above allegedly persecuted people.

Sweetpea:Only Aussie joke I know: Why do Australians have a beer called XXXX?

Because they don't know how to spell B-E-E-R.

183 Bombarafat  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 6:49:12am

My rav made the blatant contrast between our behavior and the chayas of Fallujah, in reference to Passover.

They kill people, mutilate them, and celebrate.
We on the other hand are forbidden from doing so. When the Egyptians were drowned at the sea we were and still are forbidden from celebrating their deaths since they are also G-ds creations

This schmuck stands in solidarity. Wow, with those kind of citizens that city really needs to sink into the ocean.

184 Frisco Patriot  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 7:04:20am

I saw the vile old fart at the pro-Paleo demo on the Berkeley campus several days ago. He was flaunting a sign equating Israel with Nazi Germany -- the usual lame shtick around here. The guy's just a senile jerk. The Good News was how few demonstrators actually turned out for the Berkeley rally, no more than 120 tops, and they were vigorously countered by by a contingent of Jewish students - perhaps twenty percent of the total crowd. And this was on a campus that for years has been at the epicenter of leftist anti-Israeli and anti-American political activity! Their speech making had a desparate ring to it, and it's apparent their ability to make alliances with other purportedly "oppressed" groups is negligible. I mean, who wants to get in the same political bed with such savage killers? I mention this because last year the deluded ones turned out almost 1200 people for the same ersatz historic event, the Paleo "catastrophe" of 1948. The sense of everyone I spoke with was that our domestic 5th Columnists are becoming increasingly discouraged and depressed as the tide turns. It's vital to remember that the jihadists *are* being defeated physically, despite propaganda to the contrary, and their domestic Islamic "brethren" are feeling increasingly unwelcome and isolated here. This should be duly noted.

185 zombie  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 7:10:01am

STOP THE PRESSES!!!

I just woke up and saw that Charles has made a link about photos from the the SF rally yesterday. I know these look outrageous, but they are nothing compared to the photos and videos I took there yesterday. I was hoping to have them online by last night, but my cruddy Web skills have slowed me down again. They will definitely be up later today. I will post the URL here and notify Charles. I guarantee everyone with half a brain will have an aneurysm looking at my images.

186 John B  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 7:25:03am

Charles, thanks for telling me the protest was in San Francisco. At first glance I thought it was being held in Riyadh - oops sorry, the women weren't wearing tents and they were allowed outside without a male ralative and there were probaly gays in the mob. My mistake.

187 Buzz  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 8:53:42am

When I was a kid, I remember having to read a Poe story, "The Mask of the Red Death." It was about people having a costume ball while disease raged outside. One of the guests shows up disguised as a victim of the disease, the Red Death, and only too late do the partygoes realize that it is not a disguise, and they all got the disease.

Just wondering if something similar would happen if a real Islamic suicide bomber showed up at one of these "peace" rallies.

188 SwampWoman  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 9:08:02am

OT re cease fire comments: The cease fire will allow some noncombatants to be removed from the area. The "negotiations" by the governing council would be a good thing, showing that they are taking on some governmental responsibilities (in my view). The outcome will be the same either way. If the council talks them into all surrendering, fine, we win. If the council fails to talk them into surrendering, fine, we will kill most or all of the rest and we win.

What I do not understand is the Iraqi army unit bugging out. I'm not sure why they were going to be there in the first place. First of all, once an army gets in the habit of running, it is hard to break that habit (did anybody really think they would hold under fire?) Second of all, the last thing I would want at my back is troops of questionable loyalty. I'm not sure if this was more of a training exercise (stand there and look like an army) to gain some confidence, or whether this was a deliberate demonstration that the Iraqi army ain't ready for prime time.

189 firq krumpl  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 10:29:22am

i would like to see this used on this guy and his ilk

190 Larry[deleted]  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 10:31:04am
191 PDM  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 10:39:45am

#189 firq krumpl,

Well that is a nifty looking device. But I don't think being an idiot merits using it on the old guy.

192 Larry  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 10:41:56am

(#190) Sorry, never mind, I may be mistaken; Larry.
(Charles, maybe you should remove my #190; thanks bud!)

193 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 10:48:42am

I'm in solidarity with anyone who bulldozes the old white-haired bastard off the Bay Bridge. Also with anyone who hangs a jihadi doper-tool from the nearest lamppost. Solidarity with the enemy makes these tools legitimate targets of war.
Hey, free speech, doncha know.

194 trigger girlie  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 10:49:12am

I am really glad I don't live in SF and did not see that rally. Knowing my exposive temper, I know for sure that someone wouldv'e been really hurt.

PS #61 Piglet:
"I'm moving this week. Found a T-shirt I bought
in Denmark back in 1999. It's black with big white leters that read
"No fucking Nazis."

Maybe some of Europe can be saved."

Are you sure the shirt is not talking about the Jews?
/sarcasm on

195 Bombarafat  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 10:52:15am

#189
That thing is awesome!
But it's still second to this:

[Link: www.howstuffworks.com...]

196 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 11:08:49am
"(strange that these capitalists would part with their products so easily, but they seemed overwhelmed with their anger that anyone would disagree with their imperialist interests)."

So, shoppers are automarically capitalists? How does this jihad whore get food, pachouli oil and new birkenstocks, then? Steal them? Rely on Quaker food drives?

197 rumcrook  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 11:41:53am

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198 Julia the Horrible  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 11:53:11am

Nothing is quite so disgusting as an older person, whom you think should display the wisdom of the ages, cavorting about revealing his senility.

Dementia in seniors is often reversible with a correction in diet and a little hit of oxygen every now and then. Serious occupation is their main problem. This person would be better off finding a good sexual partner, or at least a dog or cat.

/psychiatric help 5 cents

199 Rebecca  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 1:23:59pm

I've been posting comments at SF Indymedia in response to the photos they put up from the demonstration. Take a look at the comments in reply for some truly rational (Not!) responses.

Keep up the good work folks.

200 Right Field  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 2:14:08pm

#25

Well said. Indeed.

May they all burn in hell with thier best friend, bin-laden, God willing.

201 brownmear  Sun, Apr 11, 2004 5:09:49pm

Just musings on the general state of things. "They are all idiots." I tend to believe this but sometimes I read some thing that tells me someone that doesn't believe as I do is not deranged but sees things differently. I keep reading here and elsewhere to try and connect the dots. I believe we are at war with a religion.

But in the end I don't know how someone sees something different. I have discussed some of these issues with americans of arabic descent, and I can't really see their point. One pointed out that Sharon is an indicted war criminal. After a moments reflection I asked if that were in a Belgian court allowing indictment of many world leaders without any standing. He admitted as much but said there was proof that he would provide me. He never did, I went to look at the investigation that led to his charge.

I didn't read all the way through. After about a hundred pages I understood the charge. He allowed Christian Arabs to murder Muslim Arabs. He allowed them by not stopping them. He should have known and stopped them. So he is indicted for not stopping people from killing, and the killers are indicted where? I guess they are not indictable (sp?) because no one stopped them.

Is that a crime? I have struggled with that crime for a long time. A long time ago I read about a man arrested for child endangerment. He was hiding behind children when his wife tried to kill him. I thought he was despicable, but I thought he was trying for self preservation and the woman shooting the gun was responsible. My fellow workers said I was wrong. I asked if my wife walked in and started shooting, and I got behind them, and she shot them, was I a murderer? But that was "different".

But I cannot say I support him so it is not a this is the good guy and that is the bad guy.

In the end, I say the rest is periphial (sp?), the one shooting is wrong.

I guess I don't know if either victims were protecting them selves legally. I do know the criminals are the ones shooting guns or blowing up buildings. It is disingeneous to suggest they are forced into this position. The man making a bad decision to try and protect his life is forced into a bad decision, the others are trying to kill.


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