"Mutineers" How unintentionally fitting.

Hey firstsies. These moonbats ought to be shipped out and shaped up. This is treason and in WW2 would have been unthinkable. What has changed that?

God help us all. Really.

I hate to repeat myself, but:

Are they unpatriotic...yet?

I wonder how peaceful these idiots would be if someone kicked their ass and proceeded to beat their families. I wonder if they would think that they had a right to defend themselves and their families... or would they just sit and take it?

I would very, very much like that asshat with the "Avenge Yassin" sign to run into some ex-IDF personel, somewhere, anywhere, and knock that f*cking grin off his ugly mug.

B*stards. All of them.

I´ve posted it before I believe, but these words sent to me by a friend needs to be repeated over and over again just to know what is going on in those left-wing demonstrators mind, here is their complete programming, even simpler than an old Commodore computer:

It´s always the Christians or the Jews fault if the non-Jews and non-Christians make errors. The non-Jew, non-Christian is never to blame for his or her actions.

Nationalism is OK, but only if the nationalists are not Christian or Jewish.

War, even terrorism is OK just as long as the terrorists are not Christians ,Jews or anti-Socialists

Islamists are always free to do what they want, if they do anything wrong ít´s the fault of the rich Christian or Jewish people.

All evil and misery in this world is the product of rich, Christian or Jewish heterosexual men.

Jews, Christians and anti-islamists shall shut up and behave if they want to continue their sorrowful existences, otherwise they shall be exterminated

This is treason and in WW2 would have been unthinkable. What has changed that?

Forty years of Political Correctness.

Blast beaten again!

Why do these people do these terrible things? Do they think they are "helping" ? They only show their ignorance and stupidity.

Regardless of what they say, this course of action is the right one and frankly they should know it! To just sit back and preach peace with no action will only get thousands more of our citizens killed. Do they want that? Does that make it any easier for them to sleep at night...thought not. They don't give a shit!

This cannot be 1st amendment protected speech.

Can it?

Does zombie have more pictures that Thom™ can put on his server like last time?

No pink cardboard tank? BTW, came across a good expression for these folks on another blog, I think it was Emperor Misha's-- "thughuggers."

It occurs to me we give these dolts too much credit--they don't have to think--they have signs!

Or maybe I should not have another Boddington's. Or maybe I should.

Friday I had a delicous Dirty Dick's.

The English are funny.

But whatever you do, don’t question their patriotism.

And never question their Idiotarianism.

#10 Thom-it wouldn't have been, to the founding fathers, who would have prosecuted treason and sedition. Stupidly, to us it's free speech.
Charles, zombie: un bee lievable.

Jaffar (#6)

I would very, very much like that asshat with the "Avenge Yassin" sign to run into some ex-IDF personel, somewhere, anywhere, and knock that f*cking grin off his ugly mug.

I think AG in Houston or Mr Pol would do quite nicely, don't you?

Reprehensible, ignominious, degenerate scum.

#5 Kix

I wonder how peaceful these idiots would be if someone kicked their ass and proceeded to beat their families. I wonder if they would think that they had a right to defend themselves and their families... or would they just sit and take it?

You don't get it man. We ARE blood-thirsty. For Jewish and American blood, that is.

The "avenge Yassin" guy needs to have his face re-arranged with my hockey stick.

I can't quite make it out, but it looks like the fine print on the bottom of those posters reads:

"Paid for and authorized by John Kerry for President, Inc."

#18 Sorry I forgot. When are you going to figure out bulldozers don't bleed.

If someone were to come attack them, it would be further proof they were right. There is nothing that can be done to change their way of thinking. They're cast-in-stone anti-Americans.

There's nothing patriotic to supporting the murder of civilians and soldiers.

Those people are absolutely disgusting.
I could vomit at the sight of their grins.

#16 zulubaby

Heh. Perhaps we could arrange a little...visit.

"they're not anti-war, they're just on the other side."

16 May, 1918
The U.S. Sedition Act

---
United States, Statutes at Large, Washington, D.C., 1918, Vol. XL, pp 553 ff.
A portion of the amendment to Section 3 of the Espionage Act of June 15, 1917.
---

SECTION 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall willfully make or convey false reports, or false statements, . . . or incite insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct . . . the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, or . . . shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States . . . or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully . . . urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production . . . or advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both...

Don't need to question their idiotarianism. It's obvious, isn't it??

Q: How do you know a peacenik is an idiot???

A: Read the signs!

But, unfortunately, it is free speech. The key is to have plenty of willing countercommentators. Even a little common sense can drown out a whole lot of falsehood. Citizen Smash is doing just that by having a presence at "anti-war" rallies with truth-tellers.

Where'd they get their slogans? From Kos? Sounds like a lot of what he has written.

I have been saying that some of this signs would make a great Billboard in the battleground states on the major Interstate highways like I-75 here in Ohio, say right up around Wright Patterson AFB

there is so much to choose from like the one that says the only way they will support our troops is if they shoot their officers

several of those type signs with a Billboard heading of "These folks are supporting John F. Kerry, can Mr. Kerry count on your support also"

goodbye Battleground State support for Kerry

They're not anti-war. They're just on the other side.

If they love Iraq and the muslims so much, why the hell don´t we see to it that they get there?

It would fill my heart with joy to give a couple of those bastards a one-way-ticket to Baghdad and see if their cocky smiles lasted for very long when the islamic nutcases found out that those guys are actually American.

I know I'm out of the loop with hippy culture but what is this "thumb ring" dealio? Is it supposed to mean something? Is it the latest craze?

Anyway...

"Avenge Yassin! Kill 5 yr old Israelis on buses! War is evil. Violence isn't the answer! Kill kill kill! Smile for the cameras! Wanna come over to my pad for a bong hit? Doesn't being a radical make me intriguing? "

#25 beat me to it...

add:

let´s send them over there on the "Idiotarians heading for Iraq" rescue mission!

Globular Custard,

Taking the risk of being labelled homofobic the thumb ring over here means you´re a fag...

# 7 Per Johnson:

Well, look at it this way, if you are a white, christian or jewish male and you ever get a bit depressed feeling like you haven't really accomplished much in life, you just need to realize that you are responsible for everything wrong in the world such as AIDS, poverty, war in Muslim lands, lack of clean water in Africa, malaria, lack of hospitals across the Arab world, etc. Now you may get depressed thinking you are responsible for atrocious stuff but, hey, when you realize that you alone are responsible for all the worlds ills you can only conclude that you are an extremely powerful figure.

Ahh, liberals, I don't think I shall ever undrstand them.

Here Piggy,

That´s right, it´s always a good thing for the liberals to have the good ol´Christian or Jewish scapegoat to hide behind in times of need...

#34,

So, does he prefer to get thrown from the highest building in town, or buried alive under a toppling wall?

Maybe he can get the San Francisco City Council to inplement sharia?

I have no idea about the thumb ring as a statement - I sometimes put my ring on my thumb because my ring finger swells up when the ambient temperature is high.

Maybe I am part of a fashion trend after all. And didn't know it. This will amuse my friends from high school, who voted me least changed at our 20 year reunion. (The main difference is in where the body hair has migrated to. Someone explain to me the need to lose hair on the top of your head and gain it in your ears and on your back. This proves evolution how?)

Colt

The "avenge Yassin" guy needs to have his face re-arranged with my hockey stick.

Too kind. With your hockey skates!

Based upon #34, I am moving my ring back to my ring finger even if it makes my finger go gangrenous. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

There is no curse in Entish, Elvish, or the tongues of Men for such treachery!

/Treebeard

OK. Lazytart has just returned from her parents' abode for Easter holiday. Lazytart was scolded by her mother for being "obsessed with terrorists and geopolitics" at the dinner table in the manner of a four year old.

Meanwhile, Lazytart has returned to computer after four day hellhole-type hiatus from computer and LGF to find the world is even more FUCKING INSANE than when I left it.

Lazytart has commenced drinkintg heavily.

#39 evariste

Different kind of hockey.

You would not believe how much the composite sticks hurt.

Why don't they just convert already? Why keep us in suspence?

Those "End the Occupation" signs ...

Do they mean Lebanon, maybe Tibet?

Hell no! Iraq, Afghanistan, "Palestine", and ... wait for it ... Haiti.

steve miller,

I have that problem too I usually keep the ring in the breast pocket of my shirt to avoid getting invitations from certain types of men...

Colt, I see! OK :-)

OT: Belarus Sharia watch?

These are pictures of pathetic failures who would like all of us to become pathetic failures. They like to see others fail, so that's why they "feel" for failed states, failed dictators, failed philosophies, failed [fill in the blanks].

Free Nelson Mandela!!

Wait. They already did.

Dammit.

Those people sure make you wanna move right on over to the bay area. Gawd what a bunch of loons. Having grown up playin hockey in the land of 10,000 lakes, I can think of a more appropriate place for the other end of a hockey stick in relation to these bastards.

#47 Iron Fist,

Oh, yeah, it's not moonbat season. I can't wait for moonbat season.

I intend to bag my limit.

You can mount their heads too, but I can't imagine that you would really want to display them.

#48 evariste

I'm not exaggerating - I walk with a slight limp because some asshole thought my knee was a hockey ball.

#54 bigel

Actually, some do. I don't though (see #43).

Note: See the update to the thread. They're saying mean things about us over at "Screw Them" Zuniga's hole again.

Actually these people are examples of the ones that wouldn't have made it under the "21 Burn Theory". For those of you that never heard of the 21 Burn Theory... it's the fantasy concept of a world wide tribunal that everyone on earth would have to appear before on their 21st birthday and be able have proven their merit for continued existence, otherwise, they are burned right then and there for their caloric content. By the way Boddington's is nice, but I prefer Mackesons with and without the Woodpecker cider (making it a black velvet).

"Avenge Yassin"

"Anti war movement"

?

OT: Command Post quotes Xinhua as saying that seven Chinese have been kidnapped in Iraq.

O/T but the Masters finish was awesome. We're calling

it Hooties revenge here! No comments from Howell

Raines or Martha Burk yet.

One of the Kossacks thinks COINTELPRO is spelled Co-Intell.

#54 bigel

Actually the Brits won the Olympic ice hockey gold medal in 1936. Of course, almost the entire team was Canadian.

Sign expressing desire for vengeance for the death of a terrorist: $1.95

Thumb ring: $12.95

Surfeit of self esteem: 1 wooden nickel

Emptily malevolent grin: 1 nickel bag

My fist going through the dirty smelly hippy's face:

PRICELESS!

Interesting that maha over at Daily Kos linked to the photo on LGF instead of linking to it at Nazimedia. I wonder if maha has an agenda. Could it be true!?

#60 bigel

Yes, I do. But they have something called MEN'S hockey here. There are more deaths annually in MEN'S hockey than in rugby.

Charles:

They're saying mean things about us over at "Screw Them" Zuniga's hole again.

Mean people make me cry.

I like the "this will have a bad effect on the election but I don't really disagree" people the best.

still nothing like a hockey game outside at night under the lights when it's 20 below without the windchill applied.

a gilas girl says

Which message don't you like? (4.00 / 4)

Solidarity?

Or the fact that the LGFers can turn a decent message into something they can criticize?

There were a series of demonstrations against the occupation and against the US crackdown in Fallujah, where over 600 Iraqis have died, (I believe that's the latest number released).

If you want to do something about the "decline of discourse" in this country, you could stand up and correct the purposeful and bad faith actions of the LGFers (and point out how it is good for everyone including the US soldiers to show solidarity with the people of Fallujah) or you can contine the same kind of wrong-headed thinking that the only possible way to show solidarity with US service personnel is to deny any possibility of solidarity with the Iraqis who are suffering.

Solidarity with the insurgency in Fallujah is a decent message, and we're in bad faith for pointing at it. Wow!

All four top editorial in the NYTimes today were anti-Bush in Iraq--the lead editorial, Tom Friedman, Maureen Dowd, and Bob Kerrey--Bob Kerrey wants us to "swallow our pride and appeal to the United Nations for help in Iraq.". MoDo is as ncoherent as always. Tom Friedman calls on the President to ask his old man --and to cut off the Kurds at the knees and give full dominance to the arabs in Iraq. And the lead editorial is all about how Iraq is Vietnam

This is why I only buy the NYT on Sunday (for the puzzles and magazines) and read the Sun and Post during the week.

#70 Colt

I was going to post something like that ... their main concern is not that these scumbags are calling for the deaths of American soldiers. No. Their main concern is that these demonstrations could help Bush get re-elected.

What disgusting, soulless creatures they are.

Speaking of hockey, I'd better go watch my Bruins kick Montreal's collective. I've had enough outrage for now. "Avenge Yassin..." A guy in his early thirties shouldn't get high blood pressure like this. Ugh...

nota bene offers some great advice:

P.S. An object lesson for everyone here: think about your sign being on LGF.

Aw c'mon guys, please don't spoil our fun like that!

#75

correction: kick Montreal's collective ass

What no arts and crafts?

No pink tuttu, clown costumes or paper mache?

If they can't be ridiculous ==we are not amused!

Thought experiment in light of my #63:

If the Chinese Peoples Liberation Army joins us in the struggle against Islamofascism and sends forces to Iraq to rescue their hostages, where does that leave the grinning bearded one in the photo above?

Wildly OT, but OMG funny.

Don't know why this hit me so funny, but there is little difference in the method used to make the chicken dance, whether in SF as a "solidarity" movement or on the web.

It is interesting to see the "anti-war" signs advocating violence.

Very ironic.

What is more interesting is reading some of the prior comments advocating counter-violence.

I guess no side, even some of you little green football bloggers, is for "anti-violence".

The latest column from self-identified moderate Muslim and cba-identified anti-idiotarian Salim Mansour: Chaos in Iraq is new test of wills

There can only be one response to the ongoing chaos in Iraq that began with the barbarity of displaying the mutilated bodies of Americans at Fallujah.

It must be crushingly hard, unsparing and resounding in its message: America is committed to the long haul of bringing civilization back into the land of Abraham's birth.

Americans must put down this revolt -- sparked by a radical Shiite cleric's call for rebellion -- mercilessly.

In this test of wills, any sign of weakness will only embolden the dark forces ruthlessly opposed to Iraq's progress towards freedom and democracy.

This war against terror in Iraq and elsewhere cannot be only America's burden. It should be the shared responsibility of all free and democratic nations.

Please read it all--it's worth it.

#75, #77 patrickafir

Thanks for the reminder! Did you ever get to see the Bruins play in the old Montreal Forum?

#62

"Avenge Yassin"

"Anti war movement"

?

You STILL don't get it.
War = Jooos + non-liberal, non-commie Americans
Therefore
Anti-War = Anti "Jews + non-liberal, non-commie Americans"
Therefore
Pacificism = Encouraging the destruction of Western Civilization, and the mass-slaughter of Americans who lack dhimmitude. And all Jews. ALL JEWS.

Simple.

Just Check our record. Stalin, Mao, Lenin. National-Socialism. Did I mention Hitler? A Second Holocaust?

Peace, brothers, Peace. Rest In Peace!

#76 evariste,

We have ways of fixing their signs.

Dean's World posted a photo that reminds me that the L3's haven't totally taken over the Northeast:

[Link: www.deanesmay.com...]

(Photo shows a woman rushing to welcome her brother at the Greenwich train station. She's holding a large American flag.)

D-Berg #49
If Belarus accepts this order of things, then it's sharia.

If you lived here in SF -- and saw "people" of this every day, thousands of them, mouthing off at every opportunity -- I guarantee you would be possessed by an unquenchable loatheing which can easily erupt beyond language. I've found the lot of them to be physical cowards, morally bankrupt, unspeakably arrogant, and incapable of reasoned discussion. These folks are equivalent to the bohemian pre-Nazi arty/intellectual degenerates who filled German cafes in the Twenties. Calling themselves "progressive", they're actually close-minded racist reactionaries who've aligned themselves wholeheartedly with Islamic fascism. Without exception, each and every one I've engaged has been united with a loatheing for Israel and George Bush which is mind boggling. However, I'm grateful to the looney left of the Bay area for one thing: learning to move amongst them with icey serenity and glacial calm. This has been extremely difficult to learn. It's made me a better fighter and a healthier man.

Colonial Zionists and Imperial Crusaders impose religious tolerance in Jerusalem, the 17th holiest city in Islam.

Where are all the pictures of Ashcroft's jackbooted thugs™ suppressing the free speech rights of these "peace" protestors?

Suppressed by the Zionist-controlled media, no doubt...

#91 freedomsound

But who could the Zionazis be protecting the Christians from?

First Fallujah.

THEN San Francisco!

From Al-Ahram Weekly, Galal Amin, a professor of economics at the American University in Cairo,

Egyptian Professor at American University of Cairo Reacts to U.S. Reform Initiative & Claims there is 'No Conclusive Proof'' Arabs & Muslims were Behind 9/11 - U.S. ...Many writers, American and European, as well as Arab, suspect that the attacks were carried out by Americans

[Link: memri.org...]

Thanks to Horsefeathers for picking this up.

So there you are. This is what America gets for kindness and generosity, and in not responding to the 9/11 attacks in the same manner as America did after Pearl Harbour.

I was standing at Broadway and 9th with a big piece of posterboard that said "HAIL TO THE THIEF!"

(It was windy and I lost the sign for a minute in the street...I jumped out, grabbed the sign, and a cop started screaming at me. About ten seconds later the motorcade came over the hill at about 70 mph. If I'd been in the street then there was a reasonable chance I could have gotten arrested because I didn't think to put a handle on my f@#%ing sign.)

Umm ... no. There's a reasonable chance your stupid ass would have got run over by the motorcade.

LMAO! I don't know how much more of their profound insights I can take ...

{phew} deep breaths ...

My God.

You guys sure these aren't photoshoped frauds?

The poison coursing through the hearts of those people will probably never be eliminated. Ten years ago, if you would have told them they were destined to be the screeching voice of hatred they might have been innoculated. Now, I think they are beyond any hope of self-reflection. They have sunk so much spirital capital into this investment of hatred they will never be able to bo back to normalcy.

#95 DP111 (DP)

Stupid question, but the employees who work at American Univserity, Cairo (or Beirut) are paid by the US, right?

Once again, I'm not opposed to protesting, but people need to THINK about the messages they put on their signs and the impact those messages might have on swing voters.

I wasn't prepared for the concern to be about *swing voters*. Silly me.

This is going around the Internet as an email:

Viet Nam 1966

Richard, (my husband), never really talked a lot about his time in Viet
Nam other than he had been shot by a sniper. However, he had a rather
grainy, 8 x 10 black and white photo he had taken at a USO show of Ann
Margaret with Bob Hope in the background that was one of his treasures.

A few years ago, Ann Margaret was doing a book signing at a local
bookstore. Richard wanted to see if he could get her to sign the
treasured photo so he arrived at the bookstore at 12 o'clock for the
7:30 signing.

When I got there after work, the line went all the way around the
bookstore, circled the parking lot and disappeared behind a parking
garage. Before her appearance, bookstore employees announced that she
would sign only her book and no memorabilia would be permitted.

Richard was disappointed, but wanted to show her the photo and let her
know how much those shows meant to lonely GI's so far from home. Ann
Margaret came out looking as beautiful as ever and, as second in line,
it was soon Richard's turn.

He presented the book for her signature and then took out the photo.
When he did, there were many shouts from the employees that she would
not sign it. Richard said, "I understand. I just wanted her to see it."

She took one look at the photo, tears welled up in her eyes and she
said, "This is one of my gentlemen from Viet Nam and I most certainly
will sign his photo. I know what these men did for their country and I
always have time for 'my gentlemen.'"

With that, she pulled Richard across the table and planted a big kiss on
him. She then made quite a to-do about the bravery of the young men she
met over the years, how much she admired them, and how much she
appreciated them. There weren't too many dry eyes among those close
enough to hear. She then posed for pictures and acted as if he was the
only one there.

Later at dinner, Richard was very quiet. When I asked if he'd like to
talk about it, my big strong husband broke down in tears. "That's the
first time anyone ever thanked me for my time in the Army," he said.

That night was a turning point for him. He walked a little straighter
and, for the first time in years, was proud to have been a Vet. I'll
never forget Ann Margaret for her graciousness and how much that small
act of kindness meant to my husband.

I now make it a point to say "Thank you" to every person I come across
who served in our Armed Forces. Freedom does not come cheap and I am
grateful for all those who have served their country.

To paraphrase Barry Goldwater's classic comment about the Northeast, the rest of the country should just saw off SF and let it float out to sea.

And some really interesting stuff on

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

1. Spencer on People for the American Way Enemies List - US academia and its indoctrination of Americans.

2.Dhimmitude at college: Academics 'harming' efforts to combat terrorism - Even the Gurdian is getting it. Just.

3. RC Archbishop back Anglican Archbishop on remarks about Islam. Maybe the Church is getting it.

you know, i went and read the whole thread at daily kos and one thing was very, very clear: most of the commentators are disorganized, spastic ideologues who are only too happy to fall on each other's swords. from the looks of the home page, it seems that the owner of the blog is of a mind with his devotees. my advice: ignore 'em.

OT: Good Job, Charles with the Iraqi Bloggers links.
Right now, Poor Zeyad seems to be suffereing from a nervous breakdown (never seen him so morose)
and there's a war going on in his comments section.
If you think the Moonbats proliferate here, you haven't
dealt with the English like Rachel or Moronic Mike Barker:

"Nope, gotcha figured out I do"
No offence young Lee, but judging from your poor ill calculated offerings predating this post, I somehow doubt you do.
Or ever could, and that I'm afraid is the real problem here.

Still as long as you Yanks have us to help teach you how to conduct yourselves in urban zones and minimise innocent casualties trying to mop up this big mess our big, but wayward, brother, has created.
All the better for you.

One thing the world and it's dog know the US are the kings of remote war, they can drop the most bombs, but they are absolutely useless at close range combat.
I believe bullet for bullet, even the French would beat you lot.
(the latter being light heartedgeneral yank/brit, sledging as exists today between our troops in Iraq)

Still, let this not detract trhat not one word I gave written in either posting is anything but the facts, Jack.
To coin a painful bastardisation of our language.
Mike Barker London | Email | Homepage | 04.11.04 - 8:01 pm | #

Seriously though, when do the rest of us secede from San Francisco again?

Don't worry SF LGF'ers, we'll throw you a life boat. ;)

Here's a real eye-opener: by my quick calculations, there are over 270 million potential suicide bombers in the Muslim world.

Makes these annoying leftie twits look like pikers, doesn't it?

Hey!! I don't have time to read all the comments here just yet. I merely emailed those photos to Charles as a few quick samples. I am right this instant trying to get the rest of them all online. I should be done within an hour!! I will post the URL here and inform Charles as well. Get ready for MANY MANY more like the ones Charles just posted here. Also, this time: movies of the speeches, with transcriptions! You truly won't believe what was said. Beyond mind-boggling.

Hang on everyone -- I'll be done with the whole site momentarily!

"Avenge Yassin" is the same message as "Kill the Jews". These days, the storm troopers wear Birkenstocks.

#104 Mister Ghost

It's easy to tell you've never even remotely been associated with the military of any country much less America's.

Levi From Quens

Once you have given up the crosword, the NYT is easy to let go. I check it out online to see what they're saying. As you say, Dowd is largely incoherent. I often begin letters to counter her arguements, but soon realize that I can't begin to understand what she thinks she is saying. I did get a few messages off to her, and the only one to which I got a reply was when I defended terriers as a group, when she attacked Bush for having a terrier. i guess she forgot that the dem icon, FDR had a similar terrier.
I'm with you: Post and Sun rule. (Sports coverage included.)

that persistently undermined the antiwar movement of the Vietnam era and maintained support for Richard Nixon.

It's fairly clear, he's not against it because it damages the country, he's against it because it undermines his cause.

It's all about winning with these depraved assholes.

They hate America.

These protesters remind me of this Haiku.
The epicurist ate his own feet.
Mmmm, they tasted good!

re #107

One step closer to Steven Den Bestes P2P journalism.

Interesting

Thanks alot.

From DailyKOS as a posting?: "Once again, I'm not opposed to protesting, but people need to THINK about the messages they put on their signs and the impact those messages might have on swing voters. "

I see. So the Kossacks can sympathize with the views...but it might be better to hide these core feelings from the malleable and easily tricked "swing voters" so the country can be taken over properly and the Left's true hatred for American "power" only then proudly uncovered.

I have to admit, these Kossacks are correct when they show exasperation with the way swing voters go up and down, up and down. My respect for swing voters is just about as low as the KOS readers have.

You really ought to know by now whom you are voting for...if you read and care about things...which most people don't.

At DailyKOS today they are describing the roller coaster of polls changing all the time and saying "Do we have to go through 7 months of this?" Many are getting demoralized. They are saying "Not even the burning of Iraq is changing these dolts from their love of Bush".

The Left's long awaited revolution needs to give them the results they want so badly...or they will just give up on Kerry and go about their lives. Another reason for our Marines, soldiers and airmen *and* "mercenaries" and allies and Iraqis to win this.

To see the Left's earnest desire to see this little Tet achieve pro-Kerry results, no wonder the other enemy got so motivated for this.

If this same kind of nonsense goes on in the streets of New York City during the Republican National Convention

It will; these clowns just can't control themselves. Of course, it's questionable whether the networks will report on them, though I suppose Fox will.

we can count on four more years of ... Bush

God, I hope so. As many arguments as I have with this Administration, we're screwed if the far-left Dems get control.

If I wanted to be European/socialist/whiner, I would have stayed in Germany rather than coming home after a couple of years.

#112

That is not a Haiku! Shame!

5
7
5

!

#216 zulubaby - I an'it neither; I'm former SF - Vietnan, and I"D LOVE to be there, if they can't make it (and, frankly, even if they can).

ENOUGH WITH THE BULLSHIT. I completey agree with everyone's right to "disagree" - I even believe in the "right" to burn the American Flag (just don't do it in front of me).

But this is WAAAYY over the limit. Americans are DYING (do you understand that) over there and this asshole, carries this sign? I'm sorry folks, I'm kinda losing it here. But if this jackass (apologies to jackasses everywhere) doesn't get it INTELLECTUALLY, either me, Paladin or Iron Fist (I'm sure I've got the seniority on them) should be authorized to have a "conversation" with him (them). Really. Honestly.

OT:

Terrorist threat involving Chemical Weapons greater than suspected.

Chemical Weapon Threat

#93 Colt

A tribe of indigenous stone-throwing people who's rich history can be traced all the way back to the beginning of the Pharaonic Dynasty of Arafatkhet. They are the same people who built the fabled stone piles of Al-Aqsa.

Paladin: Mister Ghost is a friendly lizard -- he was quoting a comment posted over there. Take another look at it.

I left my brain in San Francisco
High on a hill, where the lemmings play.
Got lost where little cable cars
Climb halfway to the stars
And the morning fog will chill the air.

Can't find my brain in San Francisco
Looked high and low, went marchin' then.
When I come home to you, San Francisco,
Your golden sun won't help me find my brain again.

#20 ajf . . .

I can't quite make it out, but it looks like the fine print on the bottom of those posters reads:

"Paid for and authorized by John Kerry for President, Inc."

The protestors are insignificant, and there's no reason to ban them from marching. However, I'm really interested in hearing more about any connections between Theresa Heinz's money and the funding of the marchers. Maybe there's no connection, but I think she should be watched more closely.

OT, but this really good; seething debates on the hijab ban in France..

"We demand of France, which boasts of being the mother of freedoms, to respect the faith of Muslims and their feelings throughout the world and to accept cultural and religious pluralism in French society, just as the Islamic culture has done by embracing various religions, cultures, and races

[Link: memri.org...]

Photos of Kerry supporters.

I was recently in D.C. and saw the yet-unopened WWII monument on the Mall. Pretty amazing and appropriately positioned. Let us hope and pray that we'll never another such monument. But with the way things are going in the world, I'm none too sure.

It's time that these "peaceweanies" get their faces slammed into the cold hard gray granite and lick every letter of the following:

Here in the presence of Washington and Lincoln,
One the Eighteenth Century Father and the other,
the Nineteenth Century preserver of our nation,
We honor those Twentieth Century Americans who,
took up the struggle during the Second World,
and made the sacrifices to perpetuate,
the gifts our forefathers entrusted to us:
A nation conceived in Liberty and Justice.

Anyone who's interested can go to CNN and vote in favor of Bush and the war in Iraq - it's running strongly against right now.War in Iraq "Quickvote"

#120 Charles

You're right, of course.

/wanders off by self muttering about discount speed reading course.

For some strange reason the term 'green as kos shit' comes to mind.

OT

This Anti-Cair site looks interesting. Evidently CAIR is now trying to sue the guy who runs it for $1.5 million.

[Link: www.anti-cair-net.org...]

OT

Now here is some Haiku :

"A good wine with SPAM?"
"None." But, the waiter suggests
A vintage Draino.

Spend the night with me.
We'll get some SPAM and do things.
Money's no object.

SPAM as tennis ball.
Hit it with a power serve.
Slimy pink "french fries."

So what? I like SPAM.
Girlfriend calls me a loser.
I can live with Mom.

Now, SPAM is enhanced
with Gene Modification.
Franken-franken-food.

SPAM Haiku Archive

#117 realwest Johnson

Don't be too sure about that.

#83 cba

Thanks for the reference. It's tough this weekend to find much positive perspective on events in Iraq.

Where did

vicious killer monkey thuggery

come from?

Stupid gets results, smart only gets smears, attacks and ignorance being paraded.

Dear God. How do you even try to have a coherent conversation with someone who says this?

You can't get through - it's pointless.

When are they going to colonize Mars? Will the last one off this rock please turn out the lights?

TV (Harry)

LOL, the Simpsons rerun on Fox that just ended started out with Homer, Lisa, Bart, and Rod and Todd at a theater, figuring out what to watch. The movie they wanted to see was sold out ("The Dingleberries") so Homer wants to see "Teenage Sex Wager". Rod or Todd (I can never tell them apart) says "but our church movie guide doesn't approve of that movie!" and holds up the church movie guide.
It says
What Would Jesus View
by Michael Medved
LOL!

#100 Jennifer Peterson That is one of the most, if not THE most moving posts I've ever seen. Really. I'm in fact more than "teary" eyed having read it.
I don't think that people who didn't serve can EVER understand what Bob Hope (a truly great, GREAT man)and his "troupe" meant to us. I never got to see his show (I was, ahem, operating off of the "approved" map at the time) and I just wanted to say "thank you" for such a GREAT post!
Sometime, when I stop crying, maybe I'll tell you (if you want to hear it) about Hugh Heffner and the Playboy's efforts to help us AFTER the war.
Thanks again.

Slightly OT, but related to the anti-war effort:

I found this webpage (I forget how), and it provides one explanantion for what we are seeing lately: " Behind the many maddening attacks on America's popular culture is Italian Communist theoretician Antonio Gramsci's strategy for achieving the total state."

***

"As evidence that the revolutionary left is winning the "Gramscian 'war of position,' " Walzer approvingly cited, among other developments: "The visible impact of feminism." "The effects of affirmative action." "The emergence of gay rights politics, and ... the attention paid to it in the media." "The acceptance of cultural pluralism." "The transformation of family life," including "rising divorce rates, changing sexual mores, new household arrangements -- and, again, the portrayal of all this in the media." "The progress of secularization; the fading of religion in general and Christianity in particular from the public sphere -- classrooms, textbooks, legal codes, holidays, and so on." "The virtual abolition of capital punishment." "The legalization of abortion." "The first successes in the effort to regulate and limit the private ownership of guns."

All of these developments, Walzer admitted, were imposed upon our society by "liberal elites," rather than being driven "by the pressure of a mass movement or a majoritarian party." These changes, Walzer observed, "reflect the leftism or liberalism of lawyers, judges, federal bureaucrats, professors, school teachers, social workers, journalists, television and screen writers -- not the population at large." [Emphasis added]

***

Kinda interesting. Here's the summary:

***

"However, those who love freedom should consider these besieged institutions -- the family, traditional religion, [Helleno-Christian] morality -- as "layers of strength" that have remarkable resiliency and must be restored. But the work of restoration cannot be effective unless a sufficient number of [people who care] come to understand the conspiratorial origins of our culture war. [Emphasis in original]

Such an understanding helps dispel the despair that besets good people when they succumb to the illusion that our cultural decline is somehow pre-ordained, and that nothing can be done to arrest it. Understanding the covert machinations of our enemies is also necessary in order to anticipate their moves and organize effective resistance -- and it is only through organized, principled defense of our heritage of liberty that the culture war can ultimately be won."

#50 CastorOil . . .

These are pictures of pathetic failures who would like all of us to become pathetic failures. They like to see others fail, so that's why they "feel" for failed states, failed dictators, failed philosophies, failed [fill in the blanks].

This seems to be the motivation behind many of the marchers. And, as a previous poster said, being responsible for all the evils in the world (as reps of Amerikka) makes them feel more powerful.

#137 ole southern boy

"However, those who love freedom should consider these besieged institutions -- the family, traditional religion, [Helleno-Christian] morality -- as "layers of strength" that have remarkable resiliency and must be restored. But the work of restoration cannot be effective unless a sufficient number of [people who care] come to understand the conspiratorial origins of our culture war.

Too true! Hence, the reason why we should all care that the EU has stripped from its charter any reference to its Christian roots.

I'm just glad I wasn't at this "rally"...because I would've been arrested for assualt. I would have taken the "avenge yassin" and the "mercenaries in fallujah" posters and tried my best to forcibly feed them to the assholes carrying them. I don't really hate anything...except for those people and anyone who stands with them. Scum.

Buy they still support the troops, right?

Right?

I would like to give that smirking, self-righteous prick a Timberland tattoo on his forehead. POS.

On a brighter note, #136 realwest Johnson - how is 35 treating ya :-p

Sometime, when I stop crying, maybe I'll tell you (if you want to hear it) about Hugh Heffner and the Playboy's efforts to help us AFTER the war.

Free porn for vets? Two minutes with a Playmate each? What? :-)

[2 minutes with a playmate beats the crap out of 72 virgins in burqas!]

#131 Paladin - Huh? Sorry I got so emotional over #100 Julia Peterson's post that I had to go off line (ok, call me what you want, but post like her's do make me cry).
I "know" you and Iron Fist (and others out here) too well to think you meant any kind of personal attack, but I really didn't understand your post.

Charles,

I just sent you the funniest protest photo I ever saw. Check mail.

98 colt

It wouldnt surprise me one bit that the US provides some subsidy in one form or other. Afterall it is the American University...

And some more from MEMRI- re Muslim Arab community in France and the hijab.

Since we live in neighborhoods in which the majority is Islamic and North African, let us create for ourselves a small North Africa, adjacent to the large cities."

Next will be Bradford, Leicester, Birmingham and finally London and then expand till finally linking up. The process is being illustrated in the Balkans and is now starting in the heart of the West.

Exchange of populations is the only way. Either that or we get used to the idea of a forthcoming religious civil war in Europe and America that will make the religious wars of Europe look like a pillow fight. The last one was between Christians but this one will be with Islam. Tens of Millions will die and at the end there will have to be separation anyway. In the interim though, Western states will be de-stabilised ie Balkanised. And civilisation will most certainly die. Hello Dark Ages.

Hopefully I wont be around to see it. The tragedy is that my kids will be in the firing line. It is not looking good. I really shouldnt be so pessimistic, today of all days, as it is Easter.

RWC,

I was thinking a face walk on him with my old calk boots.

#147 PostalWorker

Had to look those up. Ouch !!!

#141 RIght Wing Conspirator - LOL!!! (and thank you for that!!)
Except for the "news" of the day - this birthday is treating me as well as # 39 did!!!

I just don't really care anymore; POS like that guy deserve to have Timberland or,(frankly, honestly) Gerber imprinted on them (in them? whatever!!).

Thanks, bro' Now DRINK!!! (I hate to be the only one out here doing that!!)!

#132 bpolsky:

Thanks for the reference.

You're welcome. Salim Mansour has been one of my heros since I discovered him a month or two ago. I hope one of these days Charles will link to one of Mansour's articles on the front page.

#149 realwest Johnson

Yes sir. I will try to find some room to fit a couple of ounces in me.

no jokes, kids

realwest, check your email please :-)

#144 realwest Johnson

Don't be so sure about seniority.

Sorry about that!

#142 AND #143 evariste - e-mail me and I'll tell ya about it - I don't think it's fair to take up Charles bandwith to go into it. It's just too long, and perhaps too emotional for me to go into here. I respect you, and Charles, too much to take up otherwise usefull space aboout one, ONE, vet's experiences.
Thanks!!
Besides which (?) I don't want to take Charles away from the "current" fight with rememberances of the fight I fought nearly 30 years ago,

ALERT!

The site with all my photos and movies from the April 10th SF rally is ONLINE! Go to zombie's photo page.

A MUST SEE, especially the movies. Everyone: tell Charles.

Strictly OT, but not really in the context of the war of survival we are in

Why is the West losing the war on terror?

"[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

This is an absolute must read. Though most of the stuff is known to LGFers, there are many details that may not be. It also looks at the 9/11 committee investigating 9/11. Immigration is one key measure though that the 9/11 committee is not discussing. Thats comforting.

In Britain we have effectively lost the will to stop the tide of illegal immigration, for the most part Islamic. Why this is so I do not understand as Britain is an island, its borders easily defended.
In London, some parts are virtually indistinguishable from Karachi. Ditto Bradford.

The country that invented the invented the scientific and industrial revolutions I and II, and invented the model for the modern secular nation state, is in serious danger of vanishing.

God help us, for our leaders from Bush to Blair certainly are'nt. My only hope is that the guardians of the secular state will wake up. Official Christianity is no help in this war, as we are up against an enemy that exploits any compassion shown.

Zulubaby, any monkey thuggery may have come from IMAO.

Spain, like a good lover, knows when to pull out!

At first glance I thought it read good loser. LOL.

i haven't posted in a while and haven't posted often but i read every day. it seems that the recent ratcheting-up of attacks on you have made you a little nervous.

i posted earlier in this thread. the post had a link to a site created by an artist featuring a non-existant weapon called 'the i d sniper'.

evidently, seeing an image of a weapon, you panicked and deleted my post. a little more time and you would have recognized it as a parody.

god, things are getting weird.

#153 Paladin - oh YEAH?lll
Today's my 59th birthday, guy, BRING IT ON!!!

I don't really mean that, it's just that photos like that asshole just get me ready to fight (I'm not as good as I was 30 years ago, but for 30 seconds or so I'm as good as anyone every has been) and that's MORE than enough for asshats like the guy in the photo - probably not good enough for you or Iron Fist, but what the hell, you only live once!)!
;>)

His sign says, "Don't Follow Leaders." His shirt has a picture of Che Guevara. No further comment necessary.

LOL. zombie, you did a great job as usual. I don't know how you stand to be around those freaks but there you go. I notice in your other pictures of the Avenge Yassin dork that he's wearing a kaffiya. Why am I not surprised?

That avenge yassin dork has totally ruined my Masters
buzz. I'd like to put a 55 gallon drum over his mug and
beat on it with a crowbar for about half an hour- just
to see how he responds to aural stimuli.

136 Realwest- thanks for serving. Really. Can't say anything more profound but thanks to you and all the vets like you.

Zombie, these are great photos.

But how do you bear it? Some of these signs made me ill.

Arrest these morons and charge them with treason and sedition.

Does anyone know roughly the date when "Willing to defend America" became synonymous with "right-wing"? I missed that one.

#155 zombie

Ugh. Can we also get an alert for the man-titties next time.

ps - I would love to see what some of the Iraqi bloggers have to say about these folks.

Zombie, great job. There's one sign I agree with- "Support the Iraqi people."
Where did the sane person come from?

Since they obviously despise this country so much.Maybe we could give these demonstrators a surprise dream vacation to Iraq or the West Bank in fact, we could fly them firstclass to Fallujuah or the Gaza Strip.The whole time they would be blindfolded,and not knowing where their going.Then we could place a yamukee on their heads and drop them right out in the middle of one of their beloved insurgent or hamas rallys with a tshirt saying God Bless America and God Bless Israel.I am sorry I don't mean to sound so cruel but these people disgust me like no other people have in my whole life.

Jim in Virginia- send Al zawawri to Sedna

Um, you're not the first person here whose said that to me and I still don't know how to gracefully respond, Except for thank you.

I was NOT by anyone's standard, heroic. I just tried to do the best I could under some truly terrifying circumstances. Better solidiers than I didn't make it back to the World.

Even today, I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night with dreams - or memories - of those days.

Don't spend your time thanking me; donate your time to the guys and girl's over there now.

I can't posibly explain to Y'all how much "support" from home means to these warriors. It's NOT hokey; it's not bullshit. Its real. and it means a lot.

And to Charles once again, thank you for littlegreenfootballs.

Actually, it reads: Victory to the Iraqi people.

166- Addison- I'd say about the time Ronald Reagan was being criticized for calling the Soviets the Evil Empire- and then they shot down the KAL jet. The left couldn't take it anymore, they've been blathering ever since.

Just reading that site again reminds me how morally bankrupt he is.

Somone please tell me where the moderate and centrists Democrats are so I can remain one.

Kirk (#157)

any monkey thuggery may have come from IMAO

I don't know what that means.

Why aren't these useful idiots and fellow travellers seen as the traitors and preachers of sedition that they are?
Per #25 Mad As Hell's posting of the U.S. Sedition Act, well, it seems to me that the administration, the media, all the powers that be, are trying hard to not portray the country, indeed the western world, as being at war. Day to day life goes on pretty much as normal. The media refuse to show the shocking scenes from 9/11 at the WTC. I think they should be shown on a daily basis, to keep fresh the horror, to remind us of what we are fighting for. We're in WW IV, yet we're more worried about politics as usual, and who's on the cover of People magazine, and Big Tobacco, and whatever the flavor of the day might be.

#174 zulubaby,

Frank at IMAO (www.imao.us) has a thing against monkeys. Well, not exactly a "thing"; he professes to hate monkeys.

An inside joke, I suppose.

#172, Jim in Virginia

But one could blame Reagan for the guy with the "AVENGE YASSIN" sign being out in the street.

If he (Reagan) hadn't cut funds for those basket-weaving classes in state facilities, this grinning idiot would be inside, where he should be.

What amused me at Kos' site was the folks who have "issues" with ANSWER but don't seem to have the cojones to do anything but whine about it.

addison (#176)

Thanks. I still don't understand the reference but so it goes.

Thanks again, zombie, for casting the light of objectivity on the cockroaches that our freedom allows to exist—they've got the right to be repugnant morons, I guess. Also, your captions are always hilarious, and make me laugh when I really want to cry or scream.

Check out this overwrought polemic from the NYC rally today.

I got a email from Protest Warrior about it, but I'm moving this week and busy packing. I'd love to hear if any of the PWers made it to the scene.

#179 zulubaby

Thanks. I still don't understand the reference but so it goes.

Told ya to lay off that devilish vino :-p

RWC:

Told ya to lay off that devilish vino :-p

I thought you said to stay away from the tequila, I didn't hear anything about wine! ;-)

#156 DP111 (DP)
Official Christianity is no help in this war, as we are up against an enemy that exploits any compassion shown.
Excuse me? Which kind?

Every one of America's mainline denominations as well as the RC Church have historically and officially endorsed Just War.

#173 Cog--Somone please tell me where the moderate and centrists Democrats are so I can remain one.

A lot of them are right here.

The deluded leadership of America's mainline churches do not represent any kind of "official" Christianity anymore than the idiot parade in zombies pictures represent "official" American Democracy or John F'in Kerry, Howard Dean, and Al Sharpton represent "official" Democratic Party beliefs.

"Kill the WABBIT!"

/Elmer Fudd

What in the world is up with the clueless guy with the bunny ears on?

That is as disturbing as any of the "hate the USA" & "love terrorist islam" signs.

God help us if these nut-jobs ever get a real following.

The tie-dyed bunny-eared tweaker reminds me of that guy that dances in Beverly Hills, the one that's always playing Michael Jackson songs full ball.

#182 zulubaby

I thought you said to stay away from the tequila, I didn't hear anything about wine! ;-)

Alrighty then, perhaps I should lay off the rum and bourbon.

OT - Revealed: militants plotted Iraq anniversary rebellion in London

A secret meeting of senior Islamic activists held in London last month took the decision to “stir the the Iraqi Shiite resistance” against the US-British led occupation of Iraq which led to the major escalation of hostilities over the last week to coincide with the first anniversary of the fall of Baghdad.
Delegates with affiliations to militant Islamic groups from across the Middle East, including many that are banned as terrorist organisations, travelled from all over Europe for the confidential closed-door sessions at various Islamic centres in central London.

Why the hell are people who are known to be members of terrorist groups allowed to travel, or for that matter, to live.

Thanks for the pictures, Zombie. I was particularly amused by the poster that featured the word "America" with sneer-quotes around it. Are they denying its existence now too?

The red-bearded pro-Pal troll in Zombie's photo is a Berkeley regular. His garbage is spread out on Telegraph Avenue and he makes a point to show up with vile signs outside the door at Israel Day celebrations in Yerba Buena Gardens. This obsessed freak, literally, has a demonic face, ravaged by a constant doses of Jew hatred. Many of the others are also "regulars" at these rallies -- leftist goofballs and eccentrics. However, the really dangerous ones - unquestionably - are the Arabs. Thank God for the Patriot Act! I mean, if they're not under *somebody's* surveillance, then we're in a lot more trouble than we are. My gut feeling, though, is that they're *not* being watchrf, at least not here in SF Bay area, where they claim to have 200,00 Muslims in residence. Yesterday the LLL SF Chronicle rab a sympathetic piece about how the local Muslims were "fearful and angry" about American actions in Iraq. If there's a way, any way, to attack Israel or the Bush policy after 9/11, the Chronicle will find ut... Arabs have begun to essentially take over and infiltrate various neighborhoods, like the Polk Street and 19th Avenue (a Palestinian stronghold), forming martial arts clubs, gathering in Arab owned coffee shops like the Royal Ground chain, opening small tobacco and food stores, replacing burritto joints with Arab restaurants -- strangely popular with young leftists and bohos. Few of them seem to work: mostly they hang out, smoke, and talk excitedly about Israel. You hear the name quite clearly emanating from the gutteral rage. I find it troubling, to be frank. So I no longer frequent certain coffee shops because when the subject of the Jewish homeland comes up, they explode with rage. As for physical responses, I've found (after several vivid experiences) that the best way is to confront these characters immediately - be it in coffee house, at a demo, or on the street - speak bluntly and clearly, and then let their eyes bulge as they shriek. Only if they put their hands on you can one respond as the heart desires! And to what end?!
To be totally honest, northern California appears like a staging ground for how far, how wide, and how deep the jihadists can grow in America -- and how many alliances they can make in the process. As for the local Jews (also around 200,000), they're "led" by liberal fools and cowards. If you're a conscious Jew or an American patriot - hopefully both - SF is super alienating.

San Francisco's priorities

Engineering Is Expendable

San Francisco State's president, forced to cut the budget, is threatening to close the School of Engineering, writes Debra Saunders in the Chronicle. Raza Studies, Recreational and Leisure Studies and Women Studies would remain, preparing students for...Well, leisure studies will come in handy for the permanently unemployed. The Institute on Sexuality, Social Inequality and Health is not threatened. Saunders writes:

It makes you wonder if the guys in Engineering should rename their discipline. You know, call it The School of Engineering, Structural Inequality and Disparity Dynamics. Even better: The School of Social Engineering.

Some 700 engineering students would be out of luck if SF State dumps the department.

Zombie . . .

Your photos are terrific. What a bunch of morons. Definitely a moronic convergence.

Spain, like a good lover, knows when to pull out.

That helps explain the European population implosion.

Darn it, I was all over SF today and I didn't see one of these dumbf***s.

If this is the best the left can do, then they are finished as a force outside of a few enclaves. I'm sorry, the Arab cause has about zero resonance with Main Street America cause they can't hide their backwards, barbaric ways anymore!

F'ing idiots with those stupid signs!

Good to see a fellow leftie putting those a$$holes in their place in the quote at top.

I support our troops. Just send them a bunch of cigars and books and will do all I can to keep their moral high. In return I received pictures of them smoking the cigars against a wall that states "NO SMOKIN". They claim it applied to cigs only and not cigars...

cigars, I like that :-) Where do you send them cigars? And I have hundreds of books I loved reading once, but will never read again.

the photo . . . eeewww

Stop, hey - what's that sign?

Good to see all of you
Jen

Men of Gondor and Rohan, my brothers! --

I am writing a wakeup call for the blogosphere.

I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails... when we forsake our friends, and break all bonds of fellowship...
as if the contest between Bush and Kerrey was of greater significance than the battle between fascism and democracy
Well…hello!... it’s not
but it is not this day.

An hour of wolves and shattered shields when all hope comes crashing down, but it is NOT this day! This day, we fight! For all that you hold dear, stand, Men of the West!
It is the job of the blogs—freelance, unfettered and (mostly) unpaid—to keep the focus on what’s really consequential, the future of civilization.

Arise Lizards!

Oh, never mind. Somehow this wound up on the wrong thread.

Go watch Lord of The Rings, read Roger Simon ands eat a marshmallow peep.

I'm going to bed now.

I'm only guessing here, but I suspect the guy in the bunny ears is our favourite amyl casualty Mark "Captain Chaos" Morford

I do so love it when these idiots help Bush get another term.

A picture is worth a thousand words...how do you comment on something like this?

The only thing missing is Yassir, Larry Flynt and Ted Kennedy! The part that scares me the most is these people vote and nullify mine.

That's a man, baby! In fact, I'm pretty sure that's Ted Danson.

Hey, as much as I didn't like what Zuniga said about the killings in Fallujah and that "Screw them" comment, I feel that, to be fair, we should acknowledge that he disagrees with what these particular Moonbats did. Specifically:

As big a mistake as I believe the Iraq invasion was, as long as our soldiers are dying at the hands of those insurgents, I will not be claiming "solidarity" with them, and I am disgusted with any allegedly civilized person who does.

Yeah, we can disagree with him and say that invading Iraq was not a bad idea, but it's good to know he has limits to what he will go along with on that score.

Time to face some strange ch-ch-changes.

Doesn't dancing guy remind you of someone?

It's Lorenzo St. DuBois!

[Link: blog.spartac.us...]

zombie: I used the picture and provided a link to your site. Hope that's alright.

Yegods!

This SF mob makes me ashamed to be a Giants and 49ers fan!!!

The issue at heart here is sensationalism - their view of democracy is a reality show in which the barbs exchanged are more for an "ooh, good one" effect that having any basis in reality or rationlism.

Of course, the same could (and should) be said about some right wing party affliates (and I use affiliates loosely).

Democratic discussion and difference in opinions is not only to be expected, but is neccesary to help our nation endure...this kind of outright idiocy isn't.

I worry about our culture - between the die hard pro-lifers, the die hard pro-bushers, and then these morons above, the balance and forward nature of American society appears to be balancing on a razors edge.

We have met the enemy,
and he is nuts!

They were out in force (NOT - around 150) in Boston too. Too bad I wasn't aware until after. I would have loved to go down and vomit on them. They are traitors and deserve to be beaten severely.

Most likely I'd be calling them COWARDS. If they feel so strongly in solidarity with the "insurgents" then go to Iraq, pick up an AK47, advance on a squad of Marines and open fire.

I've heard that the so-called Black Blocs would be in town for the DNC. Man, would I love to wade into them.

Facism at the point of a gun cannot be answered by democracy at the point of a gun. One human being will not allow another human being to dominate him. At the point of a gun there can only be warfare because that is what those taking part have been equipped with and trained to use.

The US did not end the cold war through arms but through economics. Soon there will be no-one left in Iraq or on earth who does not equate the US with guns rather than the economic and democratic domination which is your true aim.

Mr. UK Observer, I might suggest you observe the history of your own nation which faced facism at the point of a gun some 60 years ago, and with a little help from your brethren here across the Atlantic, turned a hostile, expansionist fascist state into a pacifist (perhaps too pacifist?) social democracy.

Sometimes the only suitable response to armed fascism is armed democracy.

#71 ---

still nothing like a hockey game outside at night under the lights when it's 20 below without the windchill applied.

Throw in a six-pack of MGD and you just described the perfect date.

214 UK Observer

Facism at the point of a gun cannot be answered by democracy at the point of a gun. One human being will not allow another human being to dominate him. At the point of a gun there can only be warfare because that is what those taking part have been equipped with and trained to use.

Assuming you're not merely trolling but willing to think and debate, I'd say you're forgetting recent history. We forced democracy on Japan and Germany at the end of WWII. The key was that we backed it up with civility, the rule of law, and hefty economic help. If the US presence in Iraq is lacking in these key areas then we need to change. But the principle is correct.

The US did not end the cold war through weapons capabilities but through economics.

Wrong to discount arms. The two went hand in hand. The only reason economics could work was that a succession of US administrations insisted on a strong defensive posture toward the Soviets which they could not match due to their state-run economy. Why do you think that many of the quantum leaps in their arms (nukes, planes, etc.) came about through espionage? By and large, their system stifled competitive innovation.

Soon there will be no-one left in Iraq or on earth who does not equate the US with guns rather than the economic and democratic domination which is your true aim.

That depends as much or more on whether their society can adapt to ideas of personal and religious freedom, than on any governance methods we use. If they see we are using fair and just governing methods, while at the same time not being weak in our willpower, we will be respected and eventually emulated.

Good work, Zombie! It's always appreciated. but may I second the request for a man-boob alert?

Slogan on T-shirt at the H-E-B in Austin -
"Regime change begins at home"

Why, yes - it was being worn by an aging hippie...

Fr. Louie is a Franciscan - it figures.

the rest of the country should just saw off SF and let it float out to sea.

it's been said before...

(by my hero)

In addition to being thoroughly disgusting pieces of crap, these leftist losers are unbelievably BORING!

I'm so glad i don't live in the US... and that is directed at all of you

Speaking from somebody outside of US, from a country which is not a military ally with the US, from a country that has non-combat troops in Iraq... a country that refused to be part of the coalition of the willing, a country whose leader said that if al gore had won the election then there would be no war, a country that doesn't allow US warships in its waters, yet a country that was still on the list of countries that was allowed to bid for contracts... (if you haven't guess which country I’m talking about, I’m referring to that little social-democratic paradise in the south pacific called New Zealand)... well we don't really know what to do about you American’s ... just when we thought you couldn't be any stupider you surprise us, and do something even more idiotic ...I think it is indicative of your culture that everyone seems so encourage violence, the dichotomous view of either for us, or against us seems to permeate not only the right but the left. I’m not to sure if you people realise what the rest of the world thinks about you, but generally we think you’re all a bunch of hypocrites both on the left and the right… and generally we only hope that we can manage to say out of any problems that you may cause, because it really seems that everyone in your country is asleep at the wheel.

#222 --- zeitgeist

And, frankly, most Americans think the rest of the world are a bunch of "all-talk, no-action" wussies who do nothing but criticize while Americans actually work to advance civilization and preserve human freedom.

So, until you kiwis decide to get off your asses and actually take action to make the world safer, richer, or more free, instead of whining and criticizing those who do, I don't see why any of us should give a damn what you think of us.

Well, speaking here as a person who lives outside of the US, with two citizenships, one in a country which decided to support the US (Poland) and one in a country which did not (Canada), I only have to say one thing:

All those countries which opted out of helping, and are now trying to weasel their way to the benefits in the future can kiss my fat, hairy Polish ass, tongue and all. And I hope the Iraqis remember you as well. I know I will.

"For your freedom and ours." - a worthwhile motto.

If you really want to piss these guys off join the John Birch Society, which teaches you how to fight off socialism, which is where are country is headed.

If the guys with signs don't like the war, maybe we ought to let the terrorists bomb their university campus---then maybe they will get the message

I cannot believe the guy from New Zeland. What language do you think you would be speaking right now if us "stupid" Americans had not fought WWII ?

This is not a game, you can sit out and be peaceniks all you want and b*** and complain about us, but as soon as the first terrorists bomb falls on a building in your country, you'll be screaming for help to save your a**.

Or maybe not??? You would probably just roll over

Oh and by the way Zeitgeist, US BAD AMERICANS are glad you don't live here either.