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-RetweetMujahideen for Kerry

Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 4:12:07 pm PDT

In a story at UPI about foreign fighters in the Iraqi “resistance,” a 20-year old mujahid gives his endorsement to John Kerry: Fallujah resistance vows to continue fight. (Hat tip: Andrew Coulson.)

In another interview the previous day, a wounded fighter told United Press International about the role of the foreigners: He was wounded helping them and had to be evacuated to a friend’s house in Baghdad.

Calling himself “Abu Freedom” or “Father of Freedom” — a wry joke pointed at the Americans — the 20-year old fighter was hit while trying to save two Syrians that had been fighting with his men, also in the Army of Mohammed. ...

When asked why he fought, Abu Freedom is clear.

“Because I hate the Americans and hate the invaders,” he says. “I don’t want to see Americans in charge of my country.”

In the other house on Monday, Ahmed is more eloquent on how the fighting can end and peace can come to Iraq.

“God willing Bush will fall down by the hands of Fallujah,” he says, combining military and political rhetoric. “If John Kerry wins the election and withdraws the Americans troops from Iraq, and maybe just leaves a few in bases, then we will not fight. But Bush we will always fight.

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1 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:13:38pm

Yes, but is he a foreign leader?

2 Hmmm  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:15:22pm

good riddance abu a-hole!

3 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:16:57pm

#1 RIP Ford-he will be if we elect Kerry!

4 iowahawk  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:18:27pm

"More eloquent"?

Yep, them there's some dandy eloquence.

5 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:18:51pm

"I don’t want to see Americans in charge of my country.”

Right - you wanted Saddam. But that day is past. So now we're here -- **but only until you get that fact through your thick skull and work to begin a real, viable government**. as soon as you rage-blinded hicks can figure that one out, we will leave!

What's Arabic for "putz?"

6 Rayonic  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:19:23pm

Oooo... Kerry is picking up endorsements left and right. Bush ought to be quaking in his boots. ;-)

7 Colt  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:20:59pm

100% of the remaining axis of evil endorse Kerry, not to mention axis wannabes like Syria and Hezbollah, and today a throw-back from Saddam's days joins the chorus. Charming.

8 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:23:35pm

#3 evariste

he will be if we elect Kerry!

{shudder}

9 follow the money  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:23:39pm

Is there any way that the doctors who are treating the local and foreign fighters, (syrians, iranians, etc..) could just give their patients just enough morphine to hasten their trip to the 72 virgins.
I would also advocate contraceptives in the water suppy.

Better living through science.

10 Bill Roggio  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:31:01pm

Senator Kerry should create a new catagory of foreign endorsements:

Jihadi Cannonfodder for Kerry.

This answers the question of "who would Osama vote for?". Let's hope our fickle electorate doesn't pull a Spain come November.

11 pennywit  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:34:28pm

John Kerry needs to get his Iraq/terrorism plan out front, and he needs to do it now. I honestly don't think that he plans to abandon the war on terror or to abandon Iraq. But the longer he waits to release his plan, the more people will believe that he's going to open the country to terrorists.

--|PW|--

12 Luigi  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:36:15pm

I thought Ted Kennedy was "Abu Freedom".

Reprise of earlier email: Threaten to BRING BACK SADDAM HUSSEIN. Just say he can't get a fair trial in Iraq and needs to go to The Hague. Make then choose between us and Saddam.

13 Jimmy the Dimmy  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:39:44pm

OT

Our solidiers in Iraq aren't heroes - Andy Rooney

"Treating soldiers fighting their war as brave heroes is an old civilian trick designed to keep the soldiers at it. But you can be sure our soldiers in Iraq are not all brave heroes gladly risking their lives for us sitting comfortably back here at home."

"...we should not bestow the mantle of heroism on all of them for simply being where we sent them."

Maybe it's not so off-topic. After all, this dirtbag is no doubt for Kerry, too. Like the mujahideen, Kim Jong Il, the Spanish shoe man, the French, etc.

Funny how those Democrats are always closer to America's enemies. They try to deny it, but there is an unmistakable symbiosis there...

I wonder what Kerry would have to say about this if he were asked...

14 Rayra Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:41:42pm

a curse upon RIP-Ford's mustache, for stealing the low-hanging fruit!


btw, read a snippet on fallujah today, spoke of a fedayeen team setting up a machine-gun in the street, getting put down by Marines, and when a red crescent ambulance stopped and tried to collect the weapons, that culprit was dropped too. Expect it to be spun as 'Marines fire on Ambulance' anytime now.


/have to go 'oppress' myself by doing some gardening, gone for a while, save some Roast Morlock Haunch for me!

15 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:41:55pm
“If John Kerry wins the election and withdraws the Americans troops from Iraq, and maybe just leaves a few in bases, then we will not fight. But Bush we will always fight.”

Gordon sighting in 5...4...3...2...1...

16 Judith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:42:25pm

I sure hope move.org picks that one. Jihadis for Kerry! That ought to really bring in the aL cubed votes, eh? Tomorrow-Corrie family for Kerry and why Arafat endorses the Democrats.

17 evariste[deleted]  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:42:39pm
18 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:43:32pm

↑↑↑↑↑Do not discuss, the dreaded you know what!↑↑↑↑↑

19 Bill Roggio  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:43:45pm

#11 Pennywit: Senator Kerry has alreasy stated he wants to return to law enforcement operations and working intimately with the UN, which of course means doing nothing.

I think that speaks volumes about his policies towards terrorism.

20 ShiksaGrrrl  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:44:56pm
btw, read a snippet on fallujah today, spoke of a fedayeen team setting up a machine-gun in the street, getting put down by Marines, and when a red crescent ambulance stopped and tried to collect the weapons, that culprit was dropped too. Expect it to be spun as 'Marines fire on Ambulance' anytime now.


I already heard today that several Arab stations such as Al Jazzerra and the like are reporting that American soldiers are set up as snipers and are aiming in particular for women and children.

After JENIN you would think people would learn not to trust the Arab media...but they will.

Jenin, here we come!
Again!

21 Judith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:45:12pm
and when a red crescent ambulance stopped and tried to collect the weapons, that culprit was dropped too

Damn Marines, no respect for ambulances.

sarcasm off/

22 ShiksaGrrrl  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:45:51pm

Are we NOT to discuss post #17?

LOL

23 Scott Ganz  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:46:10pm

I gotta say, guys, this is a bit of a stretch. The [bigoted word] is laboring under the delusion that Kerry's plan is to pluck our troops directly out of Iraq and bury our collective heads in the sand. I really don't think that's the case.

What these twits can never seem to understand is that, in American politics, there are shared values. In global idiot politics, every time the government changes hands, the nation's policies flip over completely. That doesn't happen here.

Kerry certainly isn't ideal, but he's not his pacifist self from 1970, and he's not going to abandon Iraq.

24 Judith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:47:31pm
Kerry certainly isn't ideal, but he's not his pacifist self from 1970, and he's not going to abandon Iraq.

We hope.

25 Right Wing Conspirator  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:47:39pm

I don't think we can keep TCWSNBN under wraps for much longer.

26 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:49:54pm

#14 Rayra Johnson

LOL

The fruit was within such an easy reach, and I so hungry for a First, that I took it.

27 Connecticut Yankee  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:51:33pm

It looks as if the Iraqi universities have their L3 student groups, according to Omar at Iraq the Model:

The American troops are now surrounding Al-Mustansiriyah University with armored vehicles and tanks; they announced through loud speakers that they have recognized a group of students who are supporting Muqtada. During searching the university, the troops found guns, ammunition and some documents from Muqtada in which he gave orders to his followers to kill the science department's dean, here I remembered one of my friends -who's a student there- told me about a month ago about troubles in the university between Al-Sadr supporters and the dean, the dean complained from their behavior as they covered the walls with their posters and slogans. They also started to disturb the students and even prohibited the students from attending their lectures. At that time, they threatened the dean saying that if he would continue being "anti Islam" they would have him kicked out of the university and hurt.

[Link: iraqthemodel.blogspot.com...]

Note that the dean who was threatened is in the science department rather than the humanities. The Al Sadrites don't have to worry about the local equivalent of Edward Said.

28 AIK  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:51:39pm

Perhaps this "foreign supporter" would best remain unnamed, also.

29 Rayra Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:52:25pm
#23 Scott Ganz 4/12/2004 04:46PM PST
Kerry certainly isn't ideal, but he's not his pacifist self from 1970, and he's not going to abandon Iraq.

...for at least 11-1/2 months. At least until Ted or Byrd can utter 'Peace with Honor'.

30 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:52:47pm

#23 Scott Ganz

Kerry certainly isn't ideal, but he's not his pacifist self from 1970

Are you sure about that? I haven't heard but the flip flopping of a fish out of water as of late.

31 J.D.  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:52:52pm

As long as you're anti-Bush, to the Kerry campaign you're A-OK.

...Some interest groups running ads say they're not concerned that they are in conflict with Kerry.

"Obviously since we can't talk (to Kerry's campaign), we can't be absolutely sure of being on the same page. But we're confident over here that we're on the right track in terms of message," said Jim Jordan, a Media Fund spokesman.

MoveOn founder Wes Boyd said his group's primary objective is not to sound the Kerry campaign's lines but to press its members' concerns about Bush's administration -- even if doing so doesn't help Kerry. "We let the chips fall where they may," Boyd said.

So far, Democratic strategists say there is no evidence that interest groups have diluted Kerry's message. And, the Massachusetts senator's advisers say they aren't concerned about it. "From what I see, they're raising very relevant issues," said Stephanie Cutter, a Kerry spokeswoman. ...

Liberal interest-group ads could muddy Kerry message

32 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:54:24pm

Hey, another ad! Cool!

33 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:56:20pm

LMAO at myself. "Another ad! Cool!"
What I'm really happy about is Charles getting support, not more advertising :-) I'll visit them and try whatever their product is, as a token of thanks. I'm not quite sure what they do, it looks like they're a magazine article clearinghouse.

34 DB  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:57:11pm

#23, Scott Ganz,

In global idiot politics, every time the government changes hands, the nation's policies flip over completely. That doesn't happen here.

What happened when Reagan first got into office?

35 Paladin  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:58:32pm

Put him in the cell with Saddam.

36 Right Wing Conspirator  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:59:04pm

Do you really think it would be all that bad with Kerry making the decisions:
Kerry Says U.S. Must 'De-Americanize' Iraq Policy

In some of his most detailed remarks on Iraq, Kerry told students at the University of New Hampshire he would be prepared to turn over authority for the political transformation of Iraq, and its reconstruction, to the United Nations.

NO BLOOD FOR OIL CONTRACTS !!!

Fu*k the UN

37 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 2:59:36pm

RWC, ugh.
The thought of it makes me sick!

38 Connecticut Yankee  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:00:01pm

OT: Another great Mark Steyn column: "Liberty and imperialism don't mix."

I was sorry to see Niall Ferguson, currently living high off the hog in the bosom of the Great Satan, reduced to peddling the Max Hastings bloody-ignorant-Yanks-blundering-around-the-world line in Saturday's Telegraph. He trotted through a brisk precis of the 1920 Iraqi uprising against the British and then wrote confidently: "I am willing to bet that not one senior military commander in Iraq today knows the slightest thing about these events."

I'll take that bet! What do you fancy? Ten thousand bucks per commander, rising commensurately as we go down the ranks? Last year, at a roadblock in the desert between Rutba and Ramadi, I spoke to a humble sergeant who, on discovering I wrote for this great British newspaper, said: "Wow! You guys got into some serious shit here, right?" On the passenger seat I had my copies of the Karshs' Empires Of The Sand and David Fromkin's A Peace To End All Peace. "That's a great book," he said of the latter.

Professor Ferguson's thesis is that the "ignoramus" Yanks are so hung up on theories of American exceptionalism that they decline to learn from the British experience. This accusation might more usefully be bandied closer to home, where London's governing class has, in little more than a generation, cut loose its imperial inheritance. If one were to pursue the parallel further, one might argue that the British Establishment is so hung up on theories of European exceptionalism it's shrugged off its own history.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

39 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:00:13pm

#32 e

Dude, that's been there for hours!

but yes, the service does look intriguing ...

40 ShiksaGrrrl  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:01:11pm

Healing IRAQ

Arab satellite channels reported today that Al-Mustansiriyah university was under siege by US troops. We have a neighbour who is a professor there, so as expected we raced to his house when we had heard about it. We congratulated him for his safety, but he looked significantly surprised and asked us what was up? We told him about the siege. He chuckled at us and said "Oh, you mean that". It turned out there was no siege at all, there was an American patrol in the vicinity of the university, and they had witnessed someone climbing on the clock tower trying to paste a large poster of Muqtada Al-Sadr. The patrol called for backup, entered the campus and hollered for the fellow to come down. They teared the poster and removed a few others close to the university's main entry gates. According to our friend, the whole process didn't take any more than 20 minutes. Just to show how the Arab media conveniently distort events.

Just to show how the Arab media conveniently distort events

41 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:01:17pm

Buckaroo-it only now showed up for me.

42 Connecticut Yankee  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:02:55pm

Not OT: American Digest brings you the Wizbang Kerry Sloganator for making your own Kerry plaque: [Link: www.americandigest.org...]

43 Judith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:04:01pm

OT-I occasionally find it hilarious to go have a gander at Al Jazeera.

"The situation is somewhat calm but the real problem is the presence of the US snipers in the industrial zones of Askari, Jolan, Shuhada, and Sinai," said the correspondent.

"There are scores of US snipers on the rooftops of high buildings," he added.

Translation-Marines whopped our sorry asses and we can't move without getting shot.

"Some Iraqi religious and tribal leaders have been trying to mediate a deal to end Sadr's uprising, possibly by getting the US-led occupation to agree not to arrest al-Sadr in return for him renouncing violence."

Translation-We think the Americans are really really really stupid. And why not think that? Look at what those human shields types we met just before the war actually believed coming from Saddam?

"Reporting on Falluja negotiations, Aljazeera correspondent Abd al-Adhim Muhammad said: "Residents insist that the Iraqi police and members of the local civil defence in addition to a number of trustworthy people should be the ones to take on the responsibility of their town's security." "

Translation- We haven't yet fully accepted that Marines aren't human shield type Americans who have just whopped our asses and taken control of the city.

44 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:04:40pm

#41 e

Really -- OK sorry. So the ads are differing by region or soemthing?

45 PostalWorker  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:06:24pm

I wonder whose resources the UN will utilize to accomplish what we have not. The UN facility in NYC would be better used as a giant Bed n Breakfast.

They could move their HQ to Bagdad for all I care.

46 AIK  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:07:03pm

Perhaps this is yet another "foreign supporter" of Kerry's candidacy who would best remain unnamed.

47 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:07:14pm

#43 J

LOL! You should be our offical al-j Fisker! I can't stand going to that site -- just viewing the header gives me the heebie-jeebies ...

48 Oktober  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:07:27pm
"But Bush we will always fight."

And Bush will always fight you, and you will lose mother fucker!

49 Elias Israel  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:07:47pm

Hey, no fair. I was robbed. :)

I mentioned this article soon after it came out.

50 Colt  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:08:29pm

#42 Conneticut Yankee

LOL! Here's Here's mine.

51 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:08:45pm

Buckaroo, LOL, I doubt it :-) Blogads probably ain't that sophisticated-or is it? What time zone are you in? I'm in CST.

What I was thinking is that maybe my ISP was caching the Blogads html chunk because my computer requests it a lot, and hadn't refreshed until now.

Or, maybe it's been there all day and I didn't see it. I doubt that though, it seems like I would notice a big orange thing and a crapload of blue text right next to the comments. I have a sharp eye for novelty, usually.

Also, I am the fellow that thought bunnies laid eggs.

((
(^.^)
(")")

52 piglet  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:11:52pm
There are scores of US snipers on the rooftops of high buildings," he added.

Has US doctrine realy, really changed?
Or do they
(the enemy)
call any marine with a rifle, a good hiding spot and good aim a sniper.?

53 Colt  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:12:31pm

I meant to do that.

#51 evariste

Also, I am the fellow that thought bunnies laid eggs.

Though that's not the limit of your past idiocy ;-)

54 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:12:50pm

#51 e

HST -- that would be why you tend to see more of me later!
:-)

55 Bill Roggio  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:12:59pm

#23 Scott Ganz: I'd prefer not to hope for Kerry to pursue the war. We know what we will get from Bush, and that's just fine with me.

56 Oktober  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:13:19pm

#5 Buckaroo

Thats every thing in a nut shell. good job.

57 Colt  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:13:38pm

#52 piglet

Probably Arab hyperbole, though he might have mistaken Aimpoints or similar for sniper scopes.

58 Connecticut Yankee  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:14:01pm

#50 Colt

Thanks for the link-- good job!

59 Mister Ghost  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:14:36pm

OT: Family in Northwest Indiana sees Jesus in a
Lava Lamp.

No really. Looks more like Abe Lincoln wearing a big rave hat to me, but what do I know. . .

60 Right Wing Conspirator  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:15:23pm

OT - But a good read by Tony Blair:

Why we must never abandon this historic struggle in Iraq

We are locked in a historic struggle in Iraq. On its outcome hangs more than the fate of the Iraqi people. Were we to fail, which we will not, it is more than 'the power of America' that would be defeated. The hope of freedom and religious tolerance in Iraq would be snuffed out. Dictators would rejoice; fanatics and terrorists would be triumphant. Every nascent strand of moderate Arab opinion, knowing full well that the future should not belong to fundamentalist religion, would be set back in bitter disappointment.

was this already posted? seems familiar.

61 Colt  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:16:15pm

#59 Mister Ghost

Tasos Katopodis / The Times Sherri Gehring of Lansing says an image of Jesus appeared in her 15-year-old son, Doug's, lava lamp Sunday night near midnight. The lava, she said, is normally black and is now purple tinged with red. They turned the lava lamp off to preserve the image.

Er, what was the 15 y.o. doing staring at a lava lamp in the middle of the night?

62 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:16:33pm

Colt, LOL! I'm never gonna live it down!

63 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:17:10pm

RWC-it seems like OpinionJournal had the same thing last month.

64 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:17:10pm

#52 p

Well, for a bunch of immature rage-blinded Arab youngins "Every Marine a rifleman" probably could easily be construed as "they're all evil snipers!"
:-)

65 Randomizer  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:18:14pm

"Kerry or Bust"? Is that what we've degenerated into?

Heck with it, I'll vote for Nader. :)

66 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:18:27pm

Buckaroo-so the time zone thing doesn't explain it; if anything, if it was that then *I* would have seen it first.

67 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:19:18pm

#56 Okt

Thank you -- that was just a type-from-the-hip deal!

68 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:20:49pm

#66 ev

Good point

"Well, I've done all I can" -- Principal Skinner

:-)

69 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:22:40pm
What's Arabic for "putz?"

Yes, that was rhetorical, but in the interest of bloodyminded literal-mindedness (are there enough mindeds in there?), I'll answer: shlook works pretty good. So does aHmaq, and ghabiyy. Feminine forms: shlookkeh, Hamqaa', and ghabiyyeh.

70 Judith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:23:42pm

OT- here's another AJ beaut:

"Many Iraqis, including some Governing Council members, have been shocked at the ferocity of the Falluja fighting. Fleeing civilians said they were haunted by the violence."

Translation - We need more Marine hauntings.

"The sight of US reinforcements flying into the area and the continuous sound of explosions and gunfire proves too much for my driver. He pulls into the village, unwilling to go any further."

Translation - Not all Iraqis are stupid.

"But Ahmad [who was going to go to Fallujah to help with fighting] and his colleagues will have their work cut out for them. Breaking news from Aljazeera on a nearby television shows fresh images from Falluja: scores of dead..[..]...The town has turned into a bloodbath."

"The images prove too much for Ahmad; he drops his face into his hands and breaks down. As he walks away, I call an Aljazeera cameraman in Falluja to check on his safety."

Translation - Marines are winning. Big time winning. Maybe this is a good time for Ahmad to stay in Baghdad.

"My colleague's voice is panic-stricken as he describes the scene, echoing the pictures that have shocked Ahmad."

Translation - His colleague isn't stupid either. No job with Al Jazeera is worth facing Marines. I want to go back to Quatar! Why oh why did I turn down the New York Times job?

""Back at our office the Americans are shooting at us. I walk out of the bathroom and a laser is pointed at my chest," he says, referring to US sharpshooters in the area."

Translation-Marines know who the enemy is. (Notice they didn't actually shoot him. They just let him know they could have if they decided to.)

71 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:26:09pm

#70 Judith

""Back at our office the Americans are shooting at us. I walk out of the bathroom and a laser is pointed at my chest," he says, referring to US sharpshooters in the area."

LOL!

He probably had to return to the bathroom to change his underwear after that.

72 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:28:01pm

Hidaa' (f.Hidaa'a) and SarSour (f. SarSoureh) also work pretty good.
There's no Arabic word that means exactly putz, but those are all pretty good put-downs.

73 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:28:59pm

Judith, LOL! Brilliant.

74 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:29:13pm

#69 ev

Thx. for the info. -- It's wasn't wholly rhetroical!
I think I still prefer putz to shlook ...

75 Dr. Know[deleted]  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:29:44pm
76 Judith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:30:23pm

My respect for the Marines is just going up and up and up.

77 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:31:33pm

#70 J

These are great!! You can becoem the "V the K" of al-j fiskings ...

:-)

78 Judith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:33:20pm

Dr. Know-popped in to get a few more quotes for your LGF=nazis quizz, eh?

79 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:34:27pm

#75

Uh, yeah, thanks for recycling out of context stuff from Friday ...


shlook!
(see? It just doesn't have them same "force" to it ... )

80 Judith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:36:41pm

Well since everyone is enjoying these AJ quotes so much I'll try to post a few more every so often. It's really quite clear the Marines are winning.

81 DoubleStandard  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:37:46pm

John Kerry (who does not deserve to be President and will lose this election) has never advocated a U.S. troop withdrawal. He has advocated “internationalizing” this failing war.

What both contenders for the White House fail to publicly admitted is that the numerous Iraqi factions are coalescing into a loosely linked nationalist rebellion with military, political and economic dimensions.

Simply calling it “bands of militia”, “bands of Saddam loyalist”, “bands of Baathist”, “bands of foreign fighters”, etc. is a simplistic appraisal of events.

Sadar will soon be irrelevant as the Iraqi Intifada grows.

82 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:38:23pm

Please do, Judith.

83 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:40:27pm

#81 DS

"Iraqi Intifada"

Aw, you had a decent post laid out there until the very end ...

putz!

(Yep -- nothin' like the classic ...)

84 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:40:34pm

#75 Dr. Know

FOAD Troll.


---

We now return you to your scheduled broadcast.

On a similar note, from samizdata:

SMCCDI
Student Movement Coordination Committee for Democracy in Iran

The SMCCDI Coordinator will be explaining the Movement's reasons for supporting President George W. Bush and why millions of Iranians are concerned by John Kerry's controversial position and statements in reference to the Tyrannical and Terrorist Islamic Republic regime.

It is an interesting read.

85 Sean II  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:40:37pm
86 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:41:48pm

#81 DS

I will agree that Sadr will soon be irrelevant -- 'cause he'll be **dead** or at least in jail ...

87 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:42:04pm

#75 Dr. Know

Right. Run along now little troll. Be a good girl and head on back to DU. That's a good troll... ;-)

88 Dr. Know  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:42:13pm

Thanks for noticing Judith.

Hmm. Here's what al qaeda said when it bombed the Madrid train:

The statement said it supported President Bush (news - web sites) in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry (news - web sites), as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."

In comments addressed to Bush, the group said:

"Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilization."

"Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected."

89 Sean II  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:42:34pm

Disregard, I did'nt see # 13...

90 The Real Travis  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:44:13pm

RE: #75

Definitely a MOBY. Note use of the term "vermin". Must have recently visited the Eva Braun site.

91 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:44:42pm

#85 SII

I skimmed it -- A.R. truly needs to FOAD -- well, I'll settle for retiring like Walter C. so we only have to hear his drivel once in a great while instead of every week ...

92 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:46:25pm

Not a Moby at all, The Real Travis. That's not quite their MO.
Just a good old fashioned derailing troll, who deserves nothing but a nice [deleted] crater, and a ban. Is it contributing a single thing to the conversation? No. Is it even on topic? No.

93 Buckaroo  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:48:18pm

#88

At least he admits it!

Oh Charles ...

(or, perhaps we just wait a few minutes for Mommy & Daddy notice the monitor glow in his bedroom ... )

94 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:49:41pm

#88 Dr. Know

If you believe that, I've got a nice bridge for sale. Hardly used, one owner and all the service records.
Trust me.

/salesman pitch

95 johnx  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:51:29pm

#9

" would also advocate contraceptives in the water suppy.
Better living through science."

Hah! What would Coffman think!

96 RedBull Junkie  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:51:42pm

#88 Dr. Know 4/12/2004 05:42PM PST

So now we know that AQ considers Kerry to be a liar. Soon we find out if reverse psychology works on libs.

-RBJ

97 jumpininhere  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:56:34pm

Rarely do I listen to Bill O'Reilly, but because of my own TiVo incompetence when I left this morning, he was on when I got home from work (yes, WORK! For a capitalist corporation!). But he did say something somewhat cerebral (a rare accomplishment for O'Reilly) -- if you Iraqis who have been subjected to the horrors of totalitarianism for the past half century don't get on the ball and start working to spread the word of freedom and democracy and start fighting for your own future, John Kerry will be elected and you can KISS ANY HOPE OF FREEDOM GOODBYE! In other words, if you Iraqis don't start fighting for your own freedom, with your own people, in your own words, with your own PROPAGANDA (Yes! propaganda!), the Left in America will prevail and we will pull out our troops and you will be left with genocide. Iraqis, think about it. If John Kerry is elected President of the USA and you are not in the loop (in other words, part of the establishment that will take over when the USA pulls out) you will be suppressed or killed. In that respect alone, if the appeasers have their way, you will see another Viet Nam. Or at least another post-Viet Nam. Millions of you will be forcefully controlled or, if not controlled, dead. Wake up. Smell the roses. Start your own coffee klatches. Start your own newspapers. Start your own political party. Don’t make this a losing proposition for us. Please.

98 Abu Maven  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 3:59:20pm

How did Kerry become known as "John effin' Kerry"? Is there a story behind that?

99 PostalWorker  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:00:12pm

#75 Get back on your goddamn meds before you hurt yourself

100 Captain Wrath  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:00:25pm

"Kerry certainly isn't ideal, but he's not his pacifist self from 1970, and he's not going to abandon Iraq."

You willing to bet your life on it? I'm not. At best this men is incapable of sustained concerted opinions, let alone actions. His election would signal a return to 'weak America', allowing the jihadists to regroup.

At best, he would remain in Iraq, but without any sense of mission or purpose. He would try to negotiate with the UN with the likes of Sadr, and when our troops are getting killed without shooting back, he'll get all wobbly and start withdrawing.

DO NOT underestimate the among of damage this man can inflict on this whole effort against radical Islam. Our enemies will hate John Kerry too, but they would much rather see him in office. What more do you need to know who to vote for?

101 Zone Alerter  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:01:18pm

#97 jumpininhere

Do the math:

Iraqis=lemmings

102 jumpininhere  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:05:03pm

#101

Being a lemming is not a biological given unless, of course, your are born a lemming. Iraqis were not born lemmings. As far as I know . . .

103 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:06:21pm

#98 Abu Maven, responding to the question in his Rolling Stone interview: 'Did you feel you were blindsided by Dean's success?', Kerry answered:
"Well, not blindsided. I mean, when I voted for the war, I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean to go off to the left and say, 'I'm against everything'? Sure. Did I expect George Bush to fuck it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did."
First time a presidential candidate cheapened the discourse with a vulgarity like that (I know, everyone cusses including Bush-I mean on purpose, as a form of posturing and pandering to his audience at Rolling Stone).

104 Zone Alerter  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:07:11pm

#102 jumpininhere


Are they not rats? Close enough to lemmings.

105 RedBull Junkie  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:08:03pm

#101 Zone Alerter 4/12/2004 06:01PM PST

I protest, there are a number of Iraqi blogs out there that are used by non-lemming Iraqis. I am disappointed that more of them are not speaking out.

Iraq the model

Healing Iraq (title echos liberalism, but it's a good blog anyway)

-RBJ

106 jumpininhere  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:14:02pm

#104

They are not rats. Your are mistaken or brain damaged. Or both. They are people. They have voices. Go away.

107 Zone Alerter  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:15:38pm

#105 RedBull Junkie


I protest, there are a number of Iraqi blogs out there that are used by non-lemming Iraqis


Where are they? Why are the good Iraqis letting the few evil Iraqis speak for them. Actions speak louder than words or so I have observed in my life. Evil only wins when the good are afraid to act...

108 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:15:56pm

#104 Zone Alerter

Jeebus man,.

I've read some of your posts here, and think you are more capable than these cheap pot shots. Am I wrong?

109 Right Wing Conspirator  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:20:49pm

#92 evariste

who deserves nothing but a nice [deleted] crater, and a ban. Is it contributing a single thing to the conversation? No. Is it even on topic? No.

Hey...let's watch them there guidelines pardner. I think you just summed up me :-p

well, I guess the anus/coke bottle x-ray was on topic

110 Islamophobe  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:22:38pm

Interesting story. My general reaction is a feeling that these people are truly stupid and lie so habitually that there is no way to know when they are telling the truth.

111 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:23:19pm

#109 Right Wing Conspirator

LOL

Hey...let's watch them there guidelines pardner. I think you just summed up me

It's my constant fear, as well. :P

112 Zone Alerter  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:23:30pm

#106 jumpininhere

They are not rats. Your are mistaken or brain damaged. Or both. They are people. They have voices.


No, I am neither mistaken, nor brain damaged, I am just tired of the b.s. from the appeasers and apologists who are afraid the "rat-bastards" who are wusses and without their wmds to hide behind are like lemmings.
And...like the Marines...I will never go away. :p

113 jumpininhere  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:30:54pm

Zone Alerter, we will never previal by giving up and conceding to the lowest level of human depravity. If we are to prevail, it will be with constructive ideas that can be exported to those you call "lemmings." Don't give up. The alternative may be comforting to you now, but will not not be comforting to your sons and daghters. At least try. That's the best we can do now.

114 DSmith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:32:18pm

I posted this in response:

115 Judith  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:38:34pm

Wow! The LGF=Nazi comment makers are certainly out in force this evening. I guess school is out then, eh?

116 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:43:01pm

Journalism 101 - before getting an interview from any one of these guys that are yapping all about how Bush is evil and that they'll go that extra yard to kill US troops, etc., ask them two simple questions:

1) Are you Iraqi?
1a) If yes, are you a Ba'athist or a member of Saddam's tribe?
1b) If no, are you a jihadist?

I'd be seriously surprised to hear if any of these yappers are anything other than jihadists from outside Iraq who decided that they'd play suicide by Marine or Ba'athists who are pissed that their Dr. Evil turned out to be Mini-me, a one calorie wonder who couldn't even get off a shot before being captured.

As it is, we cannot let these guys dictate what the policy is and its not just poor form to be negotiating a ceasefire with them, but suicidal in the long run since they should never be granted any means of legitimacy for their insurgency in the first place.

117 evariste  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:44:28pm

RWC-

Hey...let's watch them there guidelines pardner. I think you just summed up me :-p

LOL! Me too. Hmm :-)

118 Brian Scott  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:47:56pm

I feel like I'm in a twilight zone episode. In this creepy episode half of America sees no relevance when voting the same way as a terrorist would. There’s no waking up to safety on this nightmare train.

Logically speaking, If I'm an American, I would love voting for the guy they (terrorists) hate with all their being. It would be just one more show of strength and solidarity against them. Maybe they would start to get the point.

As for this 20 year old; I don't believe for one second that he would stop. The second someone of leadership quality stands up and says "Any American on our soil, needs to be destroyed" this 20 year old would have gun in hand and murder on his heart

If with Bush you will always fight, then with Bush you will surely die. And they know this.

Why can't Democrats be like Lieberman, John Kennedy, Scoop Jackson, and Zell Miller? Regardless of how you feel/felt about their domestic policys, these are men you could trust to act in America's security interests.

The modern Democrat has abandoned freedom for appeasement and even that will not stop the terrorists from attacking us again.

America please wake up.

119 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 4:54:18pm

#118 Brian Scott

Excellent post.

120 PostalWorker  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 5:42:49pm

#112

Some of the Iraqis are rats. Some aren't. Generalization wins no arguments.

I love kids. All kids are the same up to the age they begin to take on the imprint of societal norms from those who raise them. There are people in Iraq that have similar hopes and dreams as you.

It hurts me to see kids hurt. I guess that comes from raising 4 of them. I don't give a damn what color the kid is, they all deserve a chance to be something. War sucks and kids get hurt. It can't be 100% avoided. The US military does the utmost to prevent civilian and friendly fire deaths, but they are human and make mistakes.
I can live with that if I know right now that we will finish this shit and give them at least a choice of their own. Until we have an election in Iraq, we won't know the percentages of who is a rat and who is not.

(In reference to Falujah), I blame the jihadis for bringing this war to their homes. This doesn't make me think all of any set of people are rats or lemings. There are always those who see the truth and follow it. There are always those who seek power for various reasons. In this case I think it is religion tainted with greed and meglomania, reference OBL and Yessir Imafathead. (Notice I didn't say the Saudis or the Jordanians or Egyptians).


My youngest is going in the Army in June and from there supposedly to Germany. I wonder if he will get transferred to Iraq. It is possible. I want this shit over asap, but I don't want the government of the US to leave it to be dealt with by my grandson who is 4.

If you truely think that all Iraqis are rodents, then please keep that thought to yourself, because it only makes you look stupid to let it out. It isn't much different than hanging your ass out the car window at people.

It may be funny to you, but the point you are making is that you are rather obtuse.

121 Brian Scott  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 5:44:05pm

#119 Ali Abu Johnson

Thanks man.

122 PostalWorker  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 5:48:11pm

#116 Lawhawk

By the second question the reporter would already be shot as a spy. LOL Or is that the plan, heh heh.

123 Abu Maven  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 6:19:31pm

#193 Evariste

Thanks.

124 RoP really chappin' my hide  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 6:29:25pm

123 Abu Maven

No no, thank YOU.

121 Brian Scott

Back atcha...

119 RIP Ford Ali Abu Johnson

...you too.

LOL the "thank you" thread.

125 rabidfox  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 6:37:13pm

I think that part of the problem is that the Iraqis don't have much experience with a stable govt. Right now they're deathly afraid that the US will pull out and leave them with the nuts - in which case anyone who has supported the US will probably be dead meat. Given Kerry's stances - multiple - they just might be right. So the majority are keeping their head down and praying for the US to succeed.

126 Rayra Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 6:38:45pm
#38 Connecticut Yankee 4/12/2004 05:00PM PST
[re the linked article of continued Euro arrogance and distain of the American military]


I think most folks, and especially those across the pond, would be staggered to discover the levels / numbers of degreed troops are in the US mil, and the numbers of command-level officers (O-3, Majors and above) who have Masters or other post-doctorate educations.
This has routinely been the case at this level of the US Mil command structure since the Korean Conflict.
For that matter, serious Historical study is strongly encouraged at the NCO level as well.
and I haven't kept up on the situation in other services (than the Marines), but ever since Marine Commandant General Al Gray established the Professional Military Education program ~15 years ago, there has been a very large 'reading list' (this link is a non-mil copy) established for ALL ranks, with different reading guidance for different / increasing ranks of leadership / responsibility.

When I see Euros or the Left dis the US Mil as 'uneducated fools', I recognize them for the fools they are.


P.S. - if you want to see some hard bastiches

127 Rayra Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 6:51:50pm
#45 PostalWorker 4/12/2004 05:06PM PST
I wonder whose resources the UN will utilize to accomplish what we have not. The UN facility in NYC would be better used as a giant Bed n Breakfast.

They could move their HQ to Bagdad for all I care.

I've advocated many times that this is exactly the kind of thing the UN should be doing. It ought to be a giant floating crap game, relocated to ground zero of ANY world outbreak of mega-violence - put those diplo bastards right on the hot seat, remove them from their cushy environs - no more Tavern on the Green for luncheon - and tell the 'with your shield, or on it'. See how fast they get real about Peace and 'appropriate use of force', instead of passing 450+ non-binding resolutions against Israel.

128 Rayra Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 7:02:05pm
#52 piglet 4/12/2004 05:11PM PST
"There are scores of US snipers on the rooftops of high buildings," he added. "


Has US doctrine realy, really changed?
Or do they
(the enemy)
call any marine with a rifle, a good hiding spot and good aim a sniper.?

::Chesire grin::
'Outstanding! ...they showed what a Marine with his
rifle can do'
(dibs on the Book Suppository)

129 harry  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 7:04:55pm

bush will fight? fight like he has in afghanistan, where a mere 11,000 troops try to restore order to the seat of al Qaeda terrorism? fight like he has in iraq, where the nov. 15 agreement established a transfer of power well before realistic institutional standards could be established? fight like he did in liberia, where charles taylor escped to nigeria? fight like he has is saudi arabia, where the house of saud pumps money into radical islamic wahhabism? fight like he has in pakistan, where musharif placates extremists on one side and whispers nothings into our ears on the other? and fight like he has in uzbekistan, where karimov is set to establish totalitarian rule for decades?

color me profoundly unimpressed. his presidency is a failure. no candidate running cares one whit about justice.

130 Jess Passenthru  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 7:05:49pm

Are you folks here all kidding? Or just too young to remember 1980?

When a bunch of fundie nutballs took the American Embassy in Tehran hostage, and another bunch of fundie nutballs under the Ayatollah Khomeini were in control (and I use the term loosely) of the Iranian government, they claimed that they would support Ronald Reagan, that they would end hostilities if Reagan won the election, but that they would never stop fighting Jimmy Carter. Ever. Great Satan and all that.

Figure it out. This has nothing to do with Kerry, per se.

I don't even like Kerry, but to claim that any random in Iraq has the least bit of understanding of American politics is most laughable. They hate Bush because Bush is President now. They believe that any "regime change" would be a revokation of the invasion.

If you believe the same, you're as clueless as they are.

131 Fallujah Videos R' Us  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 7:17:36pm

See:

[Link: www.d3wa.net...]
[Link: www.d3wa.net...]
[Link: www.d3wa.net...]
[Link: www.d3wa.net...]
[Link: www.d3wa.net...]

Some interesting videos and materials from Fallujah.

132 Rayra Johnson  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 7:26:11pm
#75 Dr. Know 4/12/2004 05:29PM PST
Damn terrorists. How DARE they politicize the war. Nuke 'em all, I say. These subhumans have shown for long enough that they don't deserve a state. Not that they ever did. Kill 'em all NOW. And for you liberal pansies, I really don't consider it killing. It's simply the extermination of vermin, diseased vermin.

All hail Bush!

Run along you site-seeder, you.


#98 Abu Maven 4/12/2004 05:59PM PST
How did Kerry become known as "John effin' Kerry"? Is there a story behind that?

John Forbes Kerry. The more pretentious symbolic-LLLogic types like to use 'JFK'.
John Kerry tried being 'hip' during the early primary campaign by dropping the 'F-bomb' a couple times (round about the time he was Tooling around on a motorcycle at some of his appearances.
It started there, as a method of mocking his contrived schlock.
John F*cking/ Kerry neatly exemplifies most of our disdain for him, as well.
Contracted as F'ing, or 'effin'

133 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 8:21:40pm

Speaking of the devil Hanoi John, this, from a newspaper from my native Boston. Enjoy! There are other good links on the article.

Ritz cooks up wealth of puns poking Kerry

References to John Kerry [related, bio], Boston Brahmins, waffling and ketchup jokes aren't just coming from the Republican right anymore.

Thanks to one of Boston's swankiest hotels, they're now a selling point for Kerry's coming coronation - in his hometown no less.

The oh-so-swish Ritz-Carlton yesterday boldly announced its high-octane plans for ``delegates'' who stay at the hotel during the Democratic National Convention come July 26.

Among other punning attempts, the Ritz said they'll be hosting a ``Brahmin Buffet Brunch,'' that will feature ``Kerry Very Berry Waffles'' and said bartenders will hoist up ``Teresa Heinz Kerry Tomato Martinis.'' Local Democrats were abuzz with the public dissing, figuring only Kerry would be belittled in his hometown.

The Ritz pleaded ignorance.

``We didn't even think of that,'' Ritz spokeswoman Caron Le Brun said. ``Throughout the years, at conventions and inaugurals, the Ritz-Carlton hotels always do some fun things like this to keep it exciting.''

``Sen. Kerry appreciates all the creativity all Boston business establishments are going through in order to have a fun time during the convention,'' spokesman Michael Meehan said. ``If you can't take a joke you shouldn't run for office.''


134 grover  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 8:47:47pm

#129: This is what I call a game of "throw the rock at the leader"s or a case of the "you're doing it all wrong"s. Armchair generals need not apply.

135 patrickafir  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 9:04:11pm

I think he will likely get Rantissi's, Bandar's, and Arafish's endorsements shortly.

136 PostalWorker  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 9:12:03pm

#1

Think about that guy on Wild World of Sports. Tumbling down the ski flying hill out of control. Now that guy, he has more control than any leader in an islamic country.

This is what we are up against.

137 Larry  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 10:34:59pm

This post saddens me, as do a lot of the comments. So, we're happy letting the "opinions" of some terrorist scum influence our elections, as long as they'll influence it OUR way? [And we're totally sure this was an "honest" mujahadin just speakin' his mind?]

Naturally, anyone who doesn't think too deeply will vote against anyone that our avowed enemies "endorse." That's pretty obvious. So noising about about that putative endorsement is silly and weak, and it's been done before (as Jess #130 points out).

So before we make a self-righteous noise about the "stance" of some American-killing a-hole who wants to take advantage of the press to influence American politics... maybe we oughta think about whether getting our guy in office is worth being a tool of the enemy.

In short (and I could be wrong, of course), to me, this post is shameful. This election can be won without opening up our discourse to murderous political counterinsurgents who just so happen to say what we want to hear.

138 PostalWorker  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 10:55:27pm
This post saddens me, as do a lot of the comments. So, we're happy letting the "opinions" of some terrorist scum influence our elections, as long as they'll influence it OUR way? [And we're totally sure this was an "honest" mujahadin just speakin' his mind?]

No, a lot of people are distracted with "reality tv" etc. but America is NOT happy.

The world is terrified of that. It's time we let the world know without a doubt what we want.

What do you want?

I want to retire
raise my grandkid
pan some gold
have some fun ... of my own choosing
I like beer, camping, crabbing and white water rafting and big motorcycles
I like to swim nude


My needs are not great

Allah is NOT my god, as KOS says, screw him.

Let the world know how you feel. It is freedom.

139 PostalWorker  Mon, Apr 12, 2004 11:17:11pm

Larry, yer joking, right?

Larry ... aw shit. I bet it's none other than Larry laffer

A true lizardroid fer shur. Lounge lizard ...


Wow.

Is that toilet paper stuck to your shoe?

Can I have your autograph???

140 insane_kufr  Tue, Apr 13, 2004 1:21:37am

This can't help the Kerry campaign.
I want to share a couple of salient quotes from the article.

"Nearby we found the Syrians," he continues. "The dead one, the Americans had desecrated his body. They cut off his hands, head and took his eyes out and left him in a bag.

O.K., why is this piece of information included in this article. Since when does heresay constitute fact?
Now listen to Ahmad, he is only 21, so take that into consideration but listen to his message:

We didn't care who the leader of Iraq would be, we just wanted the Americans out," he says. "We don't want the American's freedom, we don't want democracy. We prefer a dictator."

How sad is that?

141 rumcrook  Tue, Apr 13, 2004 3:45:25am

he prefered a dictater.

...of coarse he was also angling for a job in saddams rape rooms when we ruined all that...


3 out of 4 support Kerry

142 Billy Pickering  Tue, Apr 13, 2004 4:09:26am

#95 Hah! What would Coffman think!


Having received dozens of phone calls concerning what Bryan Coffman thinks, it appears that those that would be negative are a bit clearer now.

Though most of the phone calls and emails we've received have been positive, we have been subjected to not only hateful and derogatory comments via phone and email but attacks using worms and other goodies as well. (its not that easy guys)

When a negative call comes in, Bryan Coffman makes sure to take that call. Usually, by the end of the call, the conversation is amiable and polite. That's not necessarily because we've converted a voter, but because Bryan Coffman is able to find common ground with anyone and build off of that.

Hateful comments don't do anyone a bit of good. Finding the common ground and discussing the issues from the roots is the only way to improve relations with those who would villify you.

There have been many comments on several sites regarding Bryan Coffman, alot of them just silly personal attacks. This is not the way to solve our problems.

We welcome all those that wish to call or email us whether positive or negative. If Bryan is in, he will make every attempt to discuss the issues with anyone that wishes.

Let's find the common ground people. Let's make our country an even better place to live and work.

Billy Pickering
Campaign Manager
Coffman for Congress

143 Sergio  Tue, Apr 13, 2004 4:26:06am

In his naively unsophisticated, AK-47ish way, this young mujahid has joined the esteemed ranks of New York billionaires and socialites, such as Bruce Rattner (billionaire RE developer), Patricia Duff (ex-wife of billionaire), and an assorted army of believers too lengthy and insipid to list, who are spending this week putting on parties all over my (presently rainy and foggy) city to raise money for Kerry.

It's depressing how GWB has absolutely no organization in NYC (or if he does, then it is apparently cowering in a ballroom or cigar club somewhere). The spectacle - come September - of the RNC conventioneering behind 10,000 NYPD officers while the cameras of the world are trained on the protestors will give more aid and comfort to the enemy than all the recent attempted media putsches (the Ted offensive, the Clarke offensive, the Ben-Veniste offensive) put together.

So if anybody on this board has a direct line to one of those purported RNC "geniuses" who agreed to have the convention here, please ask them when (if) they will get their ground operation organized.

144 GodsHeavyArtillery  Tue, Apr 13, 2004 6:22:12am

More evidence of ignorance in Iraq

That Muj is going to be disappointed. Much as I hate Kerry, we ain't leaving even if Kerry wins!

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

145 Tlacolotl  Tue, Apr 13, 2004 6:55:49am

I for one find it reassuring to hear that it's not "anti-Americanism" that's fueling the insurgency, but "anti-Bushism". I mean, this is a guy who wouldn't even be angry if the US left a few bases in his country -- how would you Americans feel about having a foreign army's bases in our country? So obviously even the maniac killers out there are specifically fighting US-style conservatism, not Western philosophy, Christianity, or American culture: it's about Bush. He has made some pretty unpopular decisions for Iraqis since the fall of Saddam, and I got news for ya: it doesn't matter at all who was in charge of their country prior to Bush. What they have to deal with now, today, is a foreign leader who claims to be instituting Democracy for them, yet when asked when the next Iraqi presidential election will be, he answers, "well, we're working on that . . . just be patient . . . still a few bugs to work out on that . . . "

Face it: the war was good idea, but it was executed by a dolt.

146 Detached Observer  Tue, Apr 13, 2004 7:23:20am

Is this really a terribly convincing argument against Kerry? Terrorists have endorsed Bush before.


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