What the . . . what?! What is WRONG with people?

Arent these turds ANTI-2nd Ammendment?

They'd miss.

Too short-sighted from extensive masturbation over Chomsky's greatest hits.

No link to the ad? No pic?

And why is LFG so slow lately? Seems like about a warp 2 today ...

Never mind.

Why WOULDN'T they run ads like this? If Bush = Hitler, and Rumsfeld = Hermann Goering, they why wouldn't you want to kill them. This is simply the logical extension of the current thinking in the DNC.

Isn't this incitement to murder ?

and suprise suprise...they have close ties with John "let's kill gov't officials" Kerry

Bah! They are as evil as the ROPMA. Both want to destroy America; they both want to destroy Christianity.

I am a Christian. I believe in redemption. Even these guys are not beyond redemption. Remember what the Apostle Paul used to do before he became a Christian? Murder Christians.

But -- If God Himself were to appear to me, ala Paul's experience on the road to Damascus, and told me to vote for a Democrat? Man, I'd really have to think about that.

During the Florida 2000 election recounts, the filthy, lying Demoncrats in charge did everything they could to ensure the ballots from overseas military members were not counted. I once challenged the head of the Bexar county, TX Democrats about this on the radio. His response? He was "proud" to have been one of those who'd gone to Florida and helped his party in the recount.

A pox upon them!

Quick OT: Typically disgusting poll from CNN, with typically disguting levels of support from their readership: Who is responsible for the current crisis in Iraq? The coalition or the insurgents?

Thom™ - There is a .gif of the ad now - here.

And the comment "We're getting raped" is offensive beyond words. You are not getting raped, you revolting piece of shit. (SOOO angry right now, even though it's not even my country - I can't believe people dare compare politics to rape, except in countries like N Korea and Saudia Arabia where politics often involves rape.)

DoS DoS !!!

Whooop whooop whooop !!

/whatshername

Abhorent doesn't quite cover this one. Of course, when someone from within the Administration will respond to this in tempered words, the same folks who uttered this depravity will claim that they're misunderstood, misquoted, or that their 1st Amendment rights are being infringed.

GRRR

Not murder, assasination.

The Party of Peace on jihad.

Holy frijoles!! Much as I despise Bill (ptooey) Clinton, I would never sink that low.
I am dreading this Presidential campaign.

All we are sayyying... Is give peace a chance!!!

Kumbay -ya my lord! Kumbay - ya!

(pictures of daisies being put into rifle barrels)

Saddam deserves a fair trial!

Rumsfeld should be murdered! I'll pay someone to do it!

***now the bratty one speaks***
Sheesh, the thing that gets me is that they don't even realize their own hypocrisy! I'll be the person who said that about Rumsfeld has one of those bumper stickers that says, "Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?"

It's coming, fellow Lizardoid minions! These guys are soon going to be pushing for the armed revolution they wanted, but didn't get, back in the 60's.

I hate to say it, but this could, possibly, turn into a shooting war right here, as well as in the ME.

This is not treason ... how?

I wonder if the media will jump on this or if it will get burried!

I hope the Secret Service is crawling up their asses right now.

#10:
Spiderman; Threat or Menace?

Time for the typical Democrat "cover your a$$" attempt. Ok, try to explain away incitement to murder in a paid ad published in a local paper.

Oh, we only meant it in a metaphorical sense. But the rape part is literal.

/LLL reasoning

GAAAHHH!!!

OFF TOPIC but...

Even the Baboons in Kenya have Mother Nature killing of the despotic males within the tribe, therefore ensuring peace and stability amongst the rest...

It could also apply to all terrorists throughout the world.

Sorry, one needs a password to access the article so I will have to quote it all here

No Time for Bullies: Baboons Retool Their Culture

No Time for Bullies: Baboons Retool Their Culture
By NATALIE ANGIER

Published: April 13, 2004

ometimes it takes the great Dustbuster of fate to clear the room of bullies and bad habits. Freak cyclones helped destroy Kublai Khan's brutal Mongolian empire, for example, while the Black Death of the 14th century capsized the medieval theocracy and gave the Renaissance a chance to shine.

Among a troop of savanna baboons in Kenya, a terrible outbreak of tuberculosis 20 years ago selectively killed off the biggest, nastiest and most despotic males, setting the stage for a social and behavioral transformation unlike any seen in this notoriously truculent primate.

In a study appearing today in the journal PloS Biology (online at [Link: www.plosbiology.org),...] researchers describe the drastic temperamental and tonal shift that occurred in a troop of 62 baboons when its most belligerent members vanished from the scene. The victims were all dominant adult males that had been strong and snarly enough to fight with a neighboring baboon troop over the spoils at a tourist lodge garbage dump, and were exposed there to meat tainted with bovine tuberculosis, which soon killed them. Left behind in the troop, designated the Forest Troop, were the 50 percent of males that had been too subordinate to try dump brawling, as well as all the females and their young. With that change in demographics came a cultural swing toward pacifism, a relaxing of the usually parlous baboon hierarchy, and a willingness to use affection and mutual grooming rather than threats, swipes and bites to foster a patriotic spirit.

Remarkably, the Forest Troop has maintained its genial style over two decades, even though the male survivors of the epidemic have since died or disappeared and been replaced by males from the outside. (As is the case for most primates, baboon females spend their lives in their natal home, while the males leave at puberty to seek their fortunes elsewhere.) The persistence of communal comity suggests that the resident baboons must somehow be instructing the immigrants in the unusual customs of the tribe.

"We don't yet understand the mechanism of transmittal," said Dr. Robert M. Sapolsky, a professor of biology and neurology at Stanford, "but the jerky new guys are obviously learning, `We don't do things like that around here.' " Dr. Sapolsky wrote the report with his colleague and wife, Dr. Lisa J. Share.

Dr. Sapolsky, who is renowned for his study of the physiology of stress, said that the Forest Troop baboons probably felt as good as they acted. Hormone samples from the monkeys showed far less evidence of stress in even the lowest-ranking individuals, when contrasted with baboons living in more rancorous societies.

The researchers were able to compare the behavior and physiology of the contemporary Forest Troop primates to two control groups: a similar-size baboon congregation living nearby, called the Talek Troop, and the Forest Troop itself from 1979 through 1982, the era that might be called Before Alpha Die-off, or B.A.D.

"It's a really fine, thorough piece of work, with the sort of methodology and lucky data sets that you can only get from doing long-term field research," said Dr. Duane Quiatt, a primatologist at the University of Colorado at Denver and a co-author with Vernon Reynolds of the 1993 book "Primate Behaviour: Information, Social Knowledge and the Evolution of Culture."

The new work vividly demonstrates that, Putumayo records notwithstanding, humans hold no patent on multiculturalism. As a growing body of research indicates, many social animals learn from one another and cultivate regional variants in skills, conventions and fashions. Some chimpanzees crack open their nuts with a stone hammer on a stone anvil; others prefer wood hammers on wood anvils. The chimpanzees of the Tai forest rain-dance; those of the Gombe tickle themselves. Dr. Jane Goodall reported a fad in one chimpanzee group: a young female started wiggling her hands, and before long, every teen chimp was doing likewise.

Original Study Information found at this URL:

[Link: www.plosbiology.org...]

Mother Nature certainly has a unique method of wheeding out despots, even in the Baboons of Kenya.

If only such a form of Tuberculosis could strike throughout the species known as Terrorists and sympathisers! ;-)

"We're getting raped"

I'm sorry but isn't Kerry leading Pesident Bush in the polls?

This isn't just sick and evil, it's criminal to the best of my knowledge. Time for our justice system to grow a spine and/or stop making liberals "more equal than others." The people that submitted the ad and the people that ran it should be arrested and charged immediately. That includes the leader of the Dem group and the paper's editor.

Keep pussyfooting around behavior like this, and you're telling the populace "Anything goes. Take it into your own hands." Even though that actually favors my side, it doesn't seem the way the country ought to go. Are we going to be a nation of equals governed by laws, or do we really want class vs. class engaging in thuggish warfare?

What the GOP and Dem leadership do about this is going to be very important. Neither side should run from this issues.

#17 TalkinKamel - If Mr Bush wins a second term and if he pursues the WoT aggressively - maybe opening another front - there could well be civil war.

The DUers are already getting ready to complain about electronic voting machine fraud.

Area Code for St. Petersburg is 727.

Thus, from the ad that the club's president's ("Ken's") number is 727-343-7921 and the vice's number ("Edna") is 727-525-4586.

Contact page for the John Kerry campaign is HERE

Enjoy the calls, folks.

The redfascists are attacking more and more directly: some days ago I asked if we must consider ourselves already involved in a civil war ... and this is another sign that we are.

#17 Talking Camel

I agree.

We could even think that there is a conspiracy at work here.
First the attack to America,
then the Demonrats in the hands of the far left...

It's happening, we are going to meet a long long battle against the subversives, allied with the islamonazis.

BTW it is so slooowww todayyy

So they have direct contact with the Kerry campagn. When is Kerry going to be held responsible for all of this hate?

This was a call to murder, they need to get hit for this, and hit hard.

I find this lacking in nuance.

Donald Rumsfeld is a hit in himself, and as such, his kung fu is much greater than that of the hatems... eh, haters (pics of his kung fu are all over the web).

All Rummy has is to state the obvious: "your betters have tried this and failed on 9/11, at the Pentagon."

Isn't this incitement to murder ?
#10
YES!!! It IS!!
These assholes don't like the way the election went so now they are calling for the assassination of public officals!!!
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AMERICA GOD DAMMIT!!!

And did you catch this lovely (and illiterate) statement second paragraph?:

The Iraqis aren't insurgents. They're Iraqi patriates [sic]...

I never thought I'd see the day when a branch of one of the two major parties would call for the assassination of the Secretary of Defense.

Now can we question their patriotism?

They're getting raped in the sense that the Repubs are gearing up to steal the election again.

Implied in the above is that the election was stolen the first time, that the Repubs still have a mechanism in place to steal again, and that this particular group of Dems is off the chart in all whacked categories...

Wow! To me it seems like hate literature and incitement to murder and treason, but what does this little Canadian know about US politics.

Sheesh, remind me not to go to Florida anytime soon. they are NUTS down there.

Ease up on this talk of civil war, if there is one thing the Left enjoys it is talking. It impresses the (lefty) chicks with their bravery and seriousness, and impressing chicks is what half of everything is about.

St. Petersburg Democratic Club

Senator Edward Kennedy is absolutely right when he called Iraq "Bush's Vietnam". But it's not only Bush, it's his whole damn Bunch Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove and Ridge.

They've tried to blame the Iraq war on intelligence, on Al Qaida, on terrorists, on foreigners from Iran and Syria. Bush doesn't even know who in the hell we're fighting. The Bush Bunch calls the Iraqis insuregents. Did you know that Britian called the American revolutionaries insurgents and traitors? The Iraqis aren't insurgents. They're Iraqi partriates who want us the hell out of the country, and we should get the hell out of their country now!

We have Marines and soldiers being killed by the dozens with many more wounded. How many have to be killed before the Bush Bunch is satisfied? How many burial services for our Iraqi dead has Bush attended? Any? How many military hospitals has Bush visited to talk to our wounded who have lost arms, or legs, or their eye sight or combinations of these - how many?

And then there's Rumsfeld who said in Iraq " We have our good days and our bad days". We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say "This is one of our bad days," and pull the trigger. Do you want to salvage our country? Be a saviour of our country? Then vore for John Kerry and get rid of the whole Bush Bunch.

Please make a donation of ANY amount of money you can afford and send it to John Kerry for President, Inc 901 15th Street, N.W. Suite 700, Washington, DC 20005. Do it NOW. Thank you.

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If someone found a better link, Charles, please delete this.
Note: Not all spelling errors are mine.

Are they crazy?

OT, but also seen on Drudge:

US moving troops out of Korean DMZ.
[Link: www.worldtribune.com...]

BTW, how does one submit link suggestions to LGF? I know this isn't the right way...

Let us not forget the paper that accepted and agreed to run an ad calling for the murder of a public official!

News@theGabber.com
Advertising@theGabber.com
Publisher@theGabber.com
the Gabber • 1419 49th Street South, Gulfport, FL 33707-4301 • 727-321-6965 • fax 327-7830>

LINK

What is the advertising policy of the paper that ran this gem? Shouldn't they have seen the contents before it ran? They've got culpability on this too. They knowingly ran an advertisement that called for the assassination of a public official. Most papers have an advertising policy similar to that of the NY Times:

[Link: www.nytadvertising.com...]

The New York Times maintains an Advertising Acceptability Department whose function is to examine advertisements before publication to determine if they meet the standards of acceptability The Times has developed over the years.

The Times may decline to accept advertising that is misleading, inaccurate or fraudulent; that makes unfair competitive claims; or that fails to comply with its standards of decency and dignity.

If an advertisement contains statements or illustrations that are not deemed acceptable, and that The Times thinks should be changed or eliminated, the advertiser will be notified. The Times will attempt to negotiate changes with the advertiser; however, if changes cannot be negotiated, the advertisement will be declined by The Times.

In addition, an advertisement must sometimes be declined because of the applicability of laws dealing with such matters as libel, copyright and trademark, the right to privacy, the sale of securities, the sale of real estate and political advertising.

The New York Times maintains clear separation between news and editorial matter and its advertisements. Accordingly, ads that include elements usually associated with The New York Times editorial matter will not be accepted (for example, but not limited to: Times-style headlines, bylines, news-style column arrangements or typography). Additionally, The Times reserves the right to label an advertisement with the word “advertisement” when, in its opinion, this is necessary to make clear the distinction between editorial material and advertising.

The Gabber doesn't appear to have a similar statement on its advertising policy, or if it did, this is a clear violation of that policy. In any case, we're talking about some serious questions of judgment at that paper, not to mention the numbnuts who sent this in to the paper in the first place.

It's good that the Democrats are the Caring Party - ortherwise they wouldn't have omitted torture.

There are A LOT of muslims in the Tampa-St.Petersburg area.
CAIR has just opened new offices there.

They must love their demonrat friends.

Maybe they work together to destroy America.

Rip this is link to a photocopy of the addNo wonder the JackAss is there mascot

They're getting raped in the sense that the Repubs are gearing up to steal the election again.

Implied in the above is that the election was stolen the first time, that the Repubs still have a mechanism in place to steal again, and that this particular group of Dems is off the chart in all whacked categories...

If that's the case it is indicative of individuals with a terrifyingly precarious grip on reality. Such individuals are very capable of violence, IMO. These threats should not be considered idle.

And people ask me why I'm no longer a Democrat...

What I don't get is exactly what the people who paid for this ad thought...did they think it would HELP Kerry, or Democrats in any way? Did they think it would bring more people to support their position? Are they f*cking crazy? (I know, the answer to the last question is undoubtedly "yes")

The DUers are already getting ready to complain about electronic voting machine fraud.

Everytime someone says "DU" I get all confused betweenn Democratic Underground and Depleted Uranium. At least the latter is basically harmless.

See how the Democratic party is the party of love, and tolerance and all that jazz?

One of the greatest ironies, in my mind, is how so many of these socialist revolutionaries are anti-second amendment. How they intend to stage a revolution without guns, I don't know, but its safer not to give them the idea.

This is getting vicious, and it seems to be getting worse the closer to the election.

Off-topic: On a side note, Human Rights Watch seems to think that Bush should prompt Sharon on human rights violations. Ridiculous. (I then commented on it in my blog).

Of course, FL Democrats being as stupid as they are, they'd assassinate Buchanan by mistake instead.

When asked if the ad was a challenge to inflict violence on Rumsfeld, McCall explained: "'Pull the trigger' means let Rumsfeld know where we stand, not to shoot him!"

In what language? Nice try, Edna. It's too late to backpedal on this one.

This what the VP Edna McCall told the Drudge Report.

"We are getting raped, and they are planning to steal the election again."

Raped? Good lord get a hold of yourself woman. There are people that ARE actually raped and the use of that word to describe politics is asinine. It undermines the importance focused on people that are actually raped.

Someone at the Kerry camp is probably calling these people right now to tell them to SHUT UP.

Uh, hold on y'all.
I shouldn't even have to say this, but the ad is disgusting, vile and maybe constitutes a criminal threat.
But:

a. The "Grabber" is a for free handout which folks use to advertise yard sales, etc. It's not a "newspaper" in the commonly understood sense of the word.
That this lunatic woman feels the way she does is, terrifying and sad.
Guess what ? any of you can be "in contact wth the Kerry campagn" just send an e-mail (I'm sure they'd prefer a donation, but just an e-mail do).
Please everyone calm down. I don't even know if the "club" which posted the ad consists of anyone other than her.
All of our nerves have been raw and exposed lately (for longer than that, maybe) but let's not go beserk over this. Investigate it as a threat? Absolutely. Believe this is "evidence" of Democratics literarlly wanting to kill Rummy; no. Frankly, Drudge is pandering with his text:
Florida Democrats (one by name; no followup or investigation of this Democratic Club) place a "newpaper ad" - in a for free, throw away, which way to the flea market "paper" and this is HEADLINE NEWS AT THE DRUDGE REPORT.
For shame, Matt.

#40 Jeff

That format works, but typically people hit the "link" button over the comment box and copy/paste the URL into the first pop up box that comes up. Then, you can give it a title in the second pop up box. Hope that helps

Ha! Don't you realize Karl Rove is behind that advertisement?

Was there talk of Civil War in the 1960 election when Kennedy was able to get the Presidency? Sheesh!

I'm not even An American...British/Canadian and I am absolutely appalled by all of the actions I have seen take place by the left wing in the past few years.

IF the war in Iraq IS ever lost...although I still dont believe in the end it will be, I will place all of the blame entirely on the Democrats.

No wonder Muslims hate the idea of Denmocracy after what they have witnessed in the US alone these past 3 years.

Its absolutely appalling.

Today if someone suggests to me that they are either a Democrat or a Left Leaning Liberal, here in Canada, I dont even want to be in their company and I despise them for making me so disgusted by them.

Granted, I havent a problem at all with some Canadian Liberal Hawks

Ralph Peters mentions:

(If the civilians in the Pentagon didn't have a plan, Sadr did.)

What makes it possible for some backward, pea brain ayatollahs from Stone Henge to move ahead of Pentagon?

Who is really the Think Tank for IRI?
As you may know their "grand ayatollah" Khomeini the sicko with an IQ of -20 dedicates the main part of his "great book" on how to have sex with horses and donkeys

Who's making the moves against Pentagon/ US here?
I think we have to take a look at these ayatollahs past and their Historic Masters. They've always been the longer hand of Britania in Iran. That is not a mistery to Iranians who know their recent history.

Britaina also knows that we Iranians KNOW our History! So their only chance of getting their dirty hands on Iran's Oil is through these ayatollahs and their grip in power!

There is NO WAY British Monarchy would loose this firm grip in Middle East to Americans. Afterall they are still bitter over US Independance. Mind you they've been working hard EVEN behind the scenes of US Politics to keep US under control one way or another.

There is NO WAY USA is fully independent unless this viscious circle ENDS. EXPOSE THE WEAK LINK TO BRITISH MONARCHS. NOW IS TIME.

SORRY I KNOW TRUTH HURTS. BUT WE HAVE TO FACE IT EVENTUALLY!

Shame on the UK, France & Germany for supporting a genocidal, terrorist, sexist, perverted, brutal and horrifying dictatorship and enemy of humanity and Democracy!!!

#35 Brent- don't say "whacked." Italian-Americans and Sicilian-Italian-Americans may find the term offensive...

/PoliticallyCorrect

#17 TalkinKamel

If it did turn into a civil war, it wouldn't last very long. Remember who has all the guns.

A Republican group calls for the murder of Al Sharpton. It's on every front page, every daily runs an editorial condemning them and saying how the Bush administration is connected to the ad. Al Franken and Michael Moore talk about it for days. There are speeches on the Senate floor calling all Republicans evil racists and College Republican's are banned from college campuses...oh, wait. It was a Democratic group calling for the murder of Rumsfield.

Umm, nevermind. I misunderstood.

Just as...I forgot her name, but the Democratic congresswoman who said to the Hispanic Republicans when told they were Hispanic, not white..."well, you all look alike to me." Hmm, never got covered like Trent Lott's little Gaffe. Nor will this get much coverage.

Side note. I've listened off and on to left wing radio to see what they are up to. Repeated theme...they keep talking about how bias the media is against liberals. I don't know if they really believe this or what...

TalkinKamel

It's coming, fellow Lizardoid minions! These guys are soon going to be pushing for the armed revolution they wanted, but didn't get, back in the 60's.

For some reason I'm picturing an AK 47 mounted on a geriatric walker

How much time do we have before one of the idiots who clap their hands at

Bring intifada to America
Avenge yassin
Shoot Rumsfeld

start organizing with some nut friends and begins shooting ?

The left is building this, the redfascists want this to happen.
See what they do in the campuses, listen to what Dean and Kennedy say.

Why the right wing of the old Democratic Party remains silent ? Why they don't stop the subversives ?

Biohazard unit to aisle 58!

This is a threat that needs attention from the Secret Service and law enforcement. I saw it on Drudge, and kept going back til there was something to copy.

I wonder when Hanoi john will speak up, and ask that all those involved should be removed from any committee, etc., associated with his run for the Presidency.

In all my 66 years I have never seen anything like this, and frankly, it scares me. This level of hatred is pathologic, and what is to stop them from calling for the assassination of the President? They so hate the administration that they are no better than a penny ante dictatorship. Anyone who does not decry this should be considerd a threat to our country.

DRUDGE REPORT XXX TUE APRIL 13, 2004 12:12:05 ET XXX

CAMPAIGN RAGE: FLORIDA DEMOCRATS PLACE NEWSPAPER AD CALLING FOR RUMSFELD HIT; FUNDRAISING FOR KERRY

Campaign 2004 turns extreme in Florida with the placement of a newspaper ad calling for physical retribution against Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld!

"We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say 'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger," the ad reads.

MORE

The call-to-arms fundraising ad, placed by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club in the current issue of the GABBER, a local St. Petersburg paper, asks readers to make an urgent donation to the John Kerry campaign.

Club Vice President Edna McCall told the DRUDGE REPORT Tuesday morning: "We want to get our country back. In Iraq, we're in deep trouble. If we don't try to get this situation cleared up, we are finished."

When asked if the ad was a challenge to inflict violence on Rumsfeld, McCall explained: "'Pull the trigger' means let Rumsfeld know where we stand, not to shoot him!"

"We are getting raped, and they are planning to steal the election again."

McCall said her club is in direct contact with John Kerry campaign.

"We're all working together."

The publisher of the GABBER says running the ad with the passage "pull the trigger" was a mistake that "slipped through" during the editing of this week's edition.

Developing...

If you go to the site Drudge Report

you will see some clickons.

BTW, not one single word here yet about it.

They're getting raped in the sense that the Repubs are gearing up to steal the election again.

So why are the Democrats even running a candidate? Because the only options are they lose, or the election is stolen by the illuminati /masons /zog /bigfoot, and they lose, right? They are delusional and in denial.

#48 Mike Silverman:

did they think it would HELP Kerry, or Democrats in any way?

Yes and yes. Remember, the mythology is that they have been losing for a decade now "because they haven't gotten their message out" and because "they've been too gentle." You can go to Dem sites and hear them argue about whether advocating murder, treason, arson etc will gain them more votes from the left than it will lose them from the middle. The notion "Hey, this just might be wrong" doesn't even enter the calculations, other than a "Well, we don't want to be too open about this and give the other side something to use against us."

This isn't just raw meat, this is blood they're guzzling. And it does bring in the donations. Money talks, and this is what animates the Left today. And we're obviously not talking about just the furthest fringe.

United States Secret Service, Tampa FL branch:

813-228-2636

Tampa is just north of St. Pete. They are "twin cities" like Oakland and San Fran.

#37 ruprecht: I agree about the lack of enthusiasm for a civil war, most of my family would be on the other side.

There is a poll on World Net Daily about whether all of this anti-American vitriol should be treated as treason. When I looked it was about 47% yes.

Also, Andy Rooney from 60 minutes has slandered our military in Iraq, saying that we can't call them heros. What a loser.

#56 Robert

Was there talk of Civil War in the 1960 election when Kennedy was able to get the Presidency? Sheesh!

Probably not, but then again, you didn't have people from one of the two major political parties taking out ads in newspapers advocating the assassination of prominent administration officials, either.

#28 Poitiers-Lepanto

You know, John Titor predicted that there'd be a civil war late 2004... Man, first he was right about the mad cow thing, now the civil war (potentially)...

I don't believe in time travel, but I may start stocking up on gelatin just in case...

#62 papijoe - "For some reason I'm picturing an AK 47 mounted on a geriatric walker "!
LMFAO!!

This ad is just another example of how George W. Bush has divided and polarized this country. If Bush had conceded to Gore in 2000, no one would be placing ads like this.

/moonbat logic

Dave The...: That was Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL). She later apologized for the comment but stuck to her argument that the Bush Administration's policy towards Haiti is "racist".

Coverage Link

#66 Model4

This isn't just raw meat, this is blood they're guzzling. And it does bring in the donations. Money talks, and this is what animates the Left today. And we're obviously not talking about just the furthest fringe.

You're right, it DOES bring in donations. I've decided I'm going to do something I've never done before - donate to a presidential campaign. I'll be cutting a check for $50, pay to the order of Bush in '04!

I'm not gonna say that this doesn't speak of a possible future civil war. I think the elements of one have been brewing since the 60s, simply waiting for the right spark. Will it be Dubya's second victory? I can't say, although I think if the election causes as much controversy as 2000, it might very well spark some violence. But, I think it'll take a very big event to start a second civil war, similar to how all the bluster prior to South Carolina's secession only hinted at the coming war. Perhaps another 9/11 event, which'll finally crack open the starting schism amongst the ranks.

As to this ad, my God, what kinda people actually consider this sh*t? What happened to friendly rivarly and believing that the government was chosen by the people for the people? Suddenly the Dems are the ones advocating violence and murder. Oh, wait, maybe I've got it all wrong. Maybe it's just the 1/2 of 1% of Dems who're like this. Just like their ideological brethren in the Islamic ranks. That's gotta be it.

/rant off

All your yardsales are belonging to us!
All seriousness aside folks I'm not sweating this nutjob. Sounds like she's been nipping the jug a bit.
Now if you'll excuse me I have to go back and fix a leak in Iran for them.

There are probably a lot of local papers where treasonous and hate-filled speech slips through in the ads and letters to the editor.
If only Drudge heard about them all, he could have an entire site on the subject alone.
Or if not Drudge, then someone.
It would be a most enlightening exercise to gather egregious examples from local, small media.

How has questioning ones patriotism become worse than using a four letter expletive? At what point can you call someone unpatriotic? Is it when they cheer a Berkeley speaker calling for an American Jihad? Can we call those liberals unpatriotic?

In congress it manifests itself as partisanship instead of unity on issue where it should not be. How many times does Bush have to reach across the aisle only to be bitten? It’s one more example of why appeasement doesn’t work in any form with people who are obsessed with power.

Listen, I'm not saying that all libs and dems are traitors or unpatriotic, but this type of rhetoric they use reaches a whole different level than just me ranting about how unpatriotic they are. Calling for Rumsfield to be killed? Come on! I think a blind deaf mute could see that difference.

Predictably, liberal and democratic Americans will turn a blind eye to this. Republicans don't do this kind of crap. And if they did we (conservatives) would work heaven and earth to make sure whoever it was that said it, would never earn a voice again. Look what happened to Trent Lot when he made flattering comments about Strom Thurmon. Chris Dodd says almost the exact same thing a couple weeks ago about Robert Bird (x-KKK) and nothing comes of it. How hypocritical!

Truth, proof, facts, honesty is not a virtue in the Democratic party at this point. If it were, Kerry would be taken to task for all his waffling, Democrats would be united on the fight against terror, and America would be unified in our resolve to keep us safe.

what a bunch of turds the Dimowits are . They will only support our troops when they shoot their officers and now wanting Rumsfield to be shot

They were using this as a fundraiser, I can tell you it is working as I just sent more funds to the GOP and if you are as upset as I am over this I would encourage you to

donate also

I once met an LLL fool who tried to make a citizens arest of president Nixon, He walked up to the Secret Service guys and said, "This man has violated the constitution by invading Cambodia, as a Law enforcement officer, would you help me in placing him under a citizens arrest?"

Needless to say, his LLL ass was the one grabbed and dragged away.

#50

Of course, FL Democrats being as stupid as they are, they'd assassinate Buchanan by mistake instead.

hahahaha..

This will not be investigated and it will not be punished. Why? Because either way the republicans or President Bush deal with, these nutcases win.

If the FBI talks to her, it is harassment. If she is prosecuted for incitement, it is The Man clampin' down on a "patriate". If her local democratic group, or the DNC, censures her, it's doing so to placate the as-yet-undecided / swing voters.

Nothing's going to happen on this because there's no way it could work out well for Bush. That's how screwed-up this country has become. We're in a fight for our lives, and the democrats are still fixated on 2000.

Next the Dems will be calling for "hanging Chad".

I understand Florida has recently upgraded their voting system, yep this election the Democrat voting precincts are allowing Colored Crayons.

Oh my that's probably not P.C., Crayons of Color.

The Kerry campaign already has operatives in Florida, in particular the same Counties in which people had so much trouble putting a sharp pointy implement into a very tough piece of paper.

Also much, much military in Florida and issues have been raised by the Dems, about absentee military ballots.

So hang on U.S.A., 'chad', is coming again only this time around it's electronic 'chad'.

This is just the tip of the iceburg, I'm afraid. I'm a former lifetime Demo who just left the party because it is so rabidly anti-American in its anti-Bush hysteria that I expect we will start seeing terrorist collaboration soon.

This kind of party above country treason didn't start here. The GOP tried to do it against Clinton, as he fought his wars.

But now its to the point that I fully expect to see marshal law on our own shores before this is all through.

Americans have become so spoiled and undisciplined by the freedom to hold wild opinions that we are coming apart at the seams now that we have deadly enemies who are willing to exploit this. It looks like many of us will be helping them to defeat us.

Don't sweat it. They're the Dems. They'll get a free pass on this one just like everything else.

/cleaning up the puke

I should order t those S.O.B.'s face up on the floor, say 'This is one of bluemerle's bad days,' and bludgeon them repeatedly with a heavy rock.

When asked if this was a self- challenge to inflict violence on idiotarians, Bluemerle explained: "'bludgeon them repeatedly with a heavy rock' means let them know where bluemerle stands, not to hit them!"

More fun!

Where and when do these idiot meet?

Our Next Meeting will be at:

Piccadilly Cafeteria
1900 34th Street North
St Petersburg, Florida

Date : The last Wednesday of every month.

Dinner start time: 6:15PM
Meeting Start time: 7:00PM

LINK

Now, Yellowpages.com says:

PICCADILLY CAFETERIA
1900 34TH ST N, SAINT PETERSBURG, FL 33713
Phone: (727) 328-1501

So -- why does this resturant host a group that calls for the assasination of high public officials?

The Lilly-Livered, Left-Leaning, Lenin-loving, Liberal Liars want to play rough? OK--Let loose the dogs of war! I wonder where these anti-American nut-jobs work?

Nobody should get a free pass on advocating assassinating a public official.

I don't even think that Jesse Helms, who only slightly less directly threatened Clinton's life, saying he should worry about his life if he came to his state, should have gotten a pass.

It is a serious erosion of our nation's security to allow such illegal intents to threaten death of an elected official to float around.

Vern and Edna must be the same stupid Floridians who complained that they were confused by, or couldn't read, the ballot.

Did you know that Britian called the American revolutionaries insurgents and traitors?

Did you know that anyone with even the most basic knowledge of history should be able to realize that the Revolutionary War and the Iraq War have exactly nothing in common?

On the other hand, maybe the ad is referring an entirely different war. I've certainly never heard of any country called "Britian."

This time, there is an almost fool-proof new Florida voting machine!

New Florida Voting Machine for 2004

referring=referring to

Today is not my day.

I may (if I'm damned lucky) get to meet Rummy next week at a luncheon. Will let you know how tight security was, assuming I go of course. Fingers crossed. (Met Bernard Lewis for the second time last week.)

/name-dropping

Jeb Bush: Give illegals licenses

April 7, 2004

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Associated Press)-- Gov. Jeb Bush endorsed a bill to allow illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, saying they are in the state anyway and officials should accept that fact.

The bill he is backing has enough safeguards that it would ensure terrorists are not getting licenses, Bush said Monday.

''We shouldn't allow them to come into the country to begin with, but once they're here, what do you do? Do you basically say that they're lepers to society? That they don't exist?'' he asked. ''A policy that ignores them is a policy of denial.''

Bush, the president's brother, said he ''would prefer to have our borders be secure, that we deport people when they are found to be here illegally.''

The issue comes up after California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger fulfilled a campaign promise by repealing a law to allow illegal immigrants to begin applying for licenses.

AP

#90 NY Nana

LOL! The other ballots are also very funny.

Imagine for a moment if the same a directed at, say, Ted Kennedy or Hillary Clinton was run by the St. Petersburg Republicans. The outrage would be epic and there would be a new commission to explain how Bush is responsible.

There is a line in the civilized discourse of campaigns that keeps it "civilized discourse." Often that line is approached in heated campaigns. This ad pole vaults over it.

Ya know, I've been lookin' at stuff like that for the last two years.

Of course, it's usually in Arabic...

# 67 unmutual.

Tampa and St. Pete, twin cities? Nah. More like two sisters, one dumpy, the other prissy, who don't like to talk to one another.

The St Pete Times BTW sptimes.com maintains LLL editorial content. Something of a NYT clone, and even has its equivalent Maureen Dowd in writer named Diane Roberts, a sort of quasi-MoDo, now teaching English at University of Alabama but still contributing occasional pieces to the Times.

Imagine for a moment if the same a directed at, say, Ted Kennedy or Hillary Clinton was run by the St. Petersburg Republicans

As I pointed out above, nothing much was done when Jesse Helms said Clinton should worry about his life if he came to South Carolina. It was a bit more artfully evasive than the Floida statement. But the intent seemed clear and illegal to me to threaten the life of a president by proxy.

It will be a mistake to let this Florida piece go unprosecuted, First Amendment protections notwithstanding.

RufusLeeKingL

This is just the tip of the iceburg, I'm afraid. I'm a former lifetime Demo who just left the party because it is so rabidly anti-American in its anti-Bush hysteria that I expect we will start seeing terrorist collaboration soon.

It's already happened. Ever heard of Lynne Stewart?

Not surprisingly, a number of the attorneys who align themselves with CCR are noted for their anti-American ideologies and totalitarian sympathies. Lynn Stewart, for example, has not been squeamish about advocating violence and revolution as legitimate means of correcting the injustices of American capitalism. "I don't believe in anarchistic violence," says Stewart, "but in directed violence. That would be violence directed at the institutions which perpetuate capitalism, racism, and sexism, and the people who are the appointed guardians of those institutions, and accompanied by popular support." She once told a news reporter, "When the revolution comes to this country, it'll be as American as apple pie and baseball."

Stewart has legally represented Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, who, in his 1995 trial, was sentenced to life-in-prison for his role in masterminding the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Rahman is a purported leader of the Islamic Group, an Egyptian terrorist organization with ties to al-Qaeda, and which has been on the US list of terrorist organizations for several years. This very group took responsibility for the 1997 massacre of 58 tourists in Luxor, Egypt — an attack whose purpose was to press for Rahman's release from prison. Among the Sheik's other brainstorms were plans to blow up the Lincoln and Holland tunnels and the United Nations building.

The terms of Rahman's prison sentence severely restrict his communications with the outside world. Similarly, Ms. Stewart is forbidden to pass messages between Rahman and anyone else. Yet in April 2002 Stewart was indicted on charges that she had "facilitated and concealed communications" between the Sheik and members of the aforementioned Islamic Group. The charges state that when Stewart visited her client in prison, she knowingly permitted Rahman to give an Arabic translator messages that Rahman wanted transmitted to the Islamic Group — in essence allowing the Sheik to direct terrorist activities from his cell.

#94 PapiJoe

I wondr if even that will be too hard for them, and when President Buch wins re-election, they will cry out that the machine was too complex?

#95 Zheka

Great point, great post! I have yet to hear one, single word from the NY media re this.

From Edna McCall, as quoted in the Drudge Report:

"We are getting raped, and they are planning to steal the election again."

McCall said her club is in direct contact with John Kerry campaign.

"We're all working together."

#69 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

You know, John Titor predicted that there'd be a civil war late 2004... Man, first he was right about the mad cow thing, now the civil war (potentially)...

You know I first read about John Titor while checking out some DU wild comments... they seemed to think for some reason that his story was all true... and that the dems were the winners of that civial war...

Mike7411

We are also proud newly-registered Republicans. We left the dhummicrats when Carter was in his forst term, and thought we would just remain Independents. The unprecedented hate and inexplicable disdain that is shown to President Bush caused us to make a statement, and join the Republicans. We do not agree with every part of their platform, but with more than enough to call ourselves Republicans, with pride.

After seeing the dementocrats go to unprecedented lengths to attack the whole Administration, with some so delusional that they still do not recognize President Bush as President, we joined the ever-growing list of Jewish Republicans, and are proud to be called neo-cons by the dhimmi Jew haters.

I feel the saddest for those who are loyal Democrats for all the right reasons. They have been spit on by the party, which has veered so far left, that it seems unable to return to reason.

I would assume that the FBI, if they are not to busy testifying in DC today, is on the case. I would expect to hear about indictments later this evening. Maybe.

This is Bush's Vietnam. The election, not the war in Iraq. The RoE favor the reds, we won't match their methods with appropriate countermeasures for fear of escalation. Just like North Vietnam was in violation of the laws of war by infiltrating soldiers into south vietnam disguised as normal villagers, the Dems are in violation of the laws of the land by advocating extralegal* violence against members of the U.S. government. If we do not counter these illegal actions to the fullest extent permitted under law we will be stuck in a Vietnam style quagmire. The parties responsable for the ad in question and their accessories should by prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't know if their actions qualify as treason, but I do know that incitement is illegal.

*extralegal as in outside the laws: they're not advocating that rummy be executed in accordance with the law for crimes he has comitted. They do not accuse him of anything that is actually illegal under U.S. law, much less anything that carries the death penalty.

#101 Mike7411

they seemed to think for some reason that his story was all true... and that the dems were the winners of that civial war...

Ok, that was a pretty stupid comment... "they seemed to think" in other words that was bong smoke coming out their ears not brain cells burning...

And the "for some reason" part... when the hell has anybody at DU need anything near a reason..

./end self fisk

Mike7411

There are a few things people all over the United States need to remember:

1. Our military take an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and to bear true faith and allegience to the same". It says nothing in there about political parties, or governments at any level - just the Constitution. The rest of the oath is just about the chain of command - who has the right to give orders. Even those orders are ONLY LAWFUL if they are supported by the Constitution, and our oath was changed to reflect that (part of Nixon's 'legacy').

2. This nation has about two million active duty, national guard, and active reserve military, stretched all around the world. It also has about eleven million retired reserves who can be called to active duty by the president in time of "national emergency" with a simple executive order. Again, they fall under the rules above. Agreed, a lot of us (me!) are old and out of shape, but we can still handle weapons, and we were trained to do so. I can still put eight out of ten rounds in a three-inch circle at 300 yards, and did so again just last Thursday, bad back and all.

3. There are also laws which allow the President, with the approval of Congress, to recall anyone who has ever served in the United States military and who is still under the age of sixty to active duty for a period of two years.

4. I'm from one of the "red" states. Four-fifths of the kids in rural areas around here still get a rifle or shotgun for their twelfth birthday, and learn how to use it properly. Most homes have at least one long-barreled weapon, and quite a few have at least one per person.

The Democrats do NOT want to start a war. They couldn't even control the cities for more than three days. How long do you think New York would last if no vehicle moved into the city from anywhere else for three days? How effective do you think 200 people with high-powered rifles could establish a roadblock on each of the arteries into the city? Ships? I don't think so. The entire thing would fall apart in a week. Then the necktie parties would begin. Not a pleasant time in our history, but maybe a necessary one, what with the absolute refusal of the far left to face reality.

I'm still opposed to Bush almost 100% on domestic issues. But I'm voting for him because Kerry's dereliction in the war on terrorism would be catastrophic.

I wish people like Lieberman and Hillary, who I would find acceptable Commanders In Chief, will recognize their views will never be accepted in this Democratic Party and renounce it, forming a centrist party.

#27 Ranten N. Raven

LOL!

Calling for the Job.

Mafia Hit Man Voice: Yeahcupcake!, Am I to understand, you got a job available dere? So, howmuch you greasing the wheels wit here?

Edna: Umm... Sir that is just a campaign ad. It's not really a contract hit.

Mafia Hit Man Voice: Ahh, I see
dere den. You wanna  keep this under one kinda quiet den. OkToots, So, when ya want me to daliver da pizza and how much of a tip doI get for da delivery?.

Edna: No sir you seem not to understand. This is not a real hit.

Mafia Hit Man Voice: I taught you said you wanted to keep dis kinda quiet. Watcha bring up a hit for? Use people need to make up your mind..  I'll tellya whad I'll do. I go ahead and take care of dis clown for ya. Den we can work out da details later. Capeesh? You democrats should be good for dat. You always have some cash stashed around all da time. I'll stop by to collect when da job is done. A'ight.  "Click"...

Edna: Sir?, Sir? "Silence"...
oh dear lord!

#107,

Why insult Lieberman? He's a fine, honest man, the best hope of the Democrat party (unless Miller decided to run in 2008). Why tie him in with the sort of Hillary, who didn't know a thing about the criminal activities of all her relatives, nor how subponead papers mysteriously appeared in her possession, several years after she was required to produce them? Lieberman didn't screw up education and heath care royally. Come on, give the guy a break!

I called the Secret Service phone number referred
to by #67 Unmutual.

Spoke with Agent Harrington. Poor guy, he's getting
bombarded by phone calls.

I hope the Secret Service takes this to the max, press charges and make these freaks realize that free speech DOES NOT include death threats!

#102 NY Nana:

You'd think some Democrats would have taken the hint when they lost Ed Koch. Ed Koch for God's sake!!

Anybody who says that Koch isn't a real Democrat needs to have their head examined. And yet, he endorses Bush.

Anyone notice how the Dems have descended into their own version of Macarthyism?

It's time to turn the mirror back on them.

Why insult Lieberman? He's a fine, honest man, the best hope of the Democrat party (unless Miller decided to run in 2008). Why tie him in with the sort of Hillary, who didn't know a thing about the criminal activities of all her relatives, nor how subponead papers mysteriously appeared in her possession, several years after she was required to produce them? Lieberman didn't screw up education and heath care royally. Come on, give the guy a break!

I agree. If Lieberman became the front-runner instead of Kerry then the President would be even more worried about the election. I think the Democrats blew it by going with an even more liberal candidate.

#57

#111

Actually, I am a Democrat, a liberal/left-leaning one too. However, I am staunchly in favor of both the War On Terrorism and the liberation of the Iraqi people. (I admire Tony Blair's political courage.) I feel very betrayed by most of the Left after September 11. If right-wingers are unhappy with the Chomskoids, I am even more unhappy because I feel that I am getting shoved out of my political leanings and out of my party because I believe in America and I believe that America is worth fighting for.

I am utterly appalled at what the St. Petersburg Democrats are doing (although I am sadly not surprised).

Sure, I may not agree with President Bush on much of his domestic agenda, but I support him not only as our legally elected president but also as a man who is at least giving a good faith effort in protecting our country against terrorists. That's more than can be said for the ABB types.

One of the reasons I had supported the Democrats in the first place was because I regarded them as the party of LBJ, who went after the Ku Klux Klan with a vengeance. Now, some Florida Democrats are resurrecting the legacy of the Klan.

We are at war. The way things are going, the winner of the 2004 election won't be either John Kerry or George W. Bush, but Osama bin Laden.

I condemn in the strongest terms the St. Petersburg Democratic Club. If Senator Kerry does not immediately condemn this action, I will regard his lack of condemnation as tacit support for it. If he tacitly supports this contemptible action, my sentiments will shift from cold neutrality to hot opposition.

OT

More important news from Drudge:

U.S. to pull out most forces from Korean DMZ this year

So whatta ya gotta do in this country to be tried for treason?

You'd think calling for the murder of a leading government official for the purpose of lending aid and comfort to America's enemies would do the trick.

#97 zhombre

Oh yeah, the St. Pete Times might as well be Pravda. It is their special brand of BS that I have to debate with my father in law regularly.

I'd question which city is the "dumpy" and which the "prissy". Both are pretty dumpy and full of goobers as far as the eye can see.

# 109,

I'd say Hillary's electability and the mantle of Clintonomics would offset some of Joe's more sterling qualities. But I digress.

I fear that the majority of Demos would never allow this country to prevail in the war on terrorism. So the party has become a repository for American defeatists. And now it begins to smell of unlawful combatants, as well.

The new civil war will be sort and sweet and have all the "blue state" guys corraled already in the cities...

The "red states" have the oil, grain, minerals, major manufacturing...and real Americans that can shoot and defend themselves...

The "blue states", have bath houses, ethnic-y jazz joints, coffee houses, arteests, Hollyweird, and poofs..

They ain't got a chance in the "blue states"...

Or we can break it down by congressional district.

If the Democrats persist in this as they did in the lead up of the 1861-5 war, well then so be it...

After all they were the party of treason and slavery then...and now!!

I think the people who placed the ad will face some sort of action, and they should.

But can we cool off, just a touch, here? The reason the ad was placed in a free rag was so that they could whine, "Oh, poor us! Look how those wingnuts are persecuting us!"

Who tipped Drudge off about this, anyway?

#32

These assholes don't like the way the election went so now they are calling for the assassination of public officals!!!

What can you expect from the Democrats! They tried to steal the election in 2000 by analyzing the chads and wanting a recount. When that didn't work, they went to court. So, in 2004, since they can't win in a democratic election and can't win in the Courts, their only alternative is murder.

# 117 unmutual

Yo, buddy, I live in Tampa, in the undumpy, unprissy part.

26---Smit--How 'bout going back to paper ballots with an ink pad and a stamp with an 'x' in a circle. We used to just stamp the ballot. It wasn't that long ago in my town in So cal--20 yrs or less. What I hear is thart we need all this electronics because we have to know within minutes who won, instead of waiting a couple of days.

This just shows how desparate the Dems are. Their only chance on winning the White House is to be more of a hawk than Bush. This is what Sen. Clinton has done and Joe Lieberman tried. Unfortunately for the Dems, the looney left is in control of the Party - thanks in part to Howard Dean. Anything other than total subjegation of U.S. rights to the U.N., Europe, Barney is unacceptable.

I believe we won't hear much from Hillary this election. She wants Kerry to loose big time so that the looney left will be completely discredited. That way it will be her and her people in control of the Dem. Party and she will have no problem getting the nomination in 2008 and give the GOP a run for its money.

#39 La Shawn Barber

Yes, they are: Crazy. Wacko. Insane. Round the Bend. Candidates for the Funny Farm, waiting for the men in white coats, wackjobs, nutcases, loons, moonbats, fruitbats, etc., etc., etc.

#62 Papijoe

I love your image of aging boomers hauling assault rifles around on their walkers! LOL! I hope you, and Lizardoid Minion, #62, are right; that there's nothing really to worry about; the lefties of the 60's are getting old, and, as Lizardoid points out, we do kinda have kinda beaten them in the arms race, after all. . .

I think I have to agree with Poitiers Lepanto, #28, and Smit, #26 though: I'm afraid things may get deadly in the months to come, especially as the mass media seems to be so sympathetic to the anti-war movement, and so opposed to Bush, and the war in Iraq, and because so many leftists seem to be eaten up with anger and bitterness(ostensibly over the "stolen" election of 2000, but I think it must go deeper than that).

Also, they seem to have a deep and consuming hatred for the country of their birth: encouraging soldiers to shoot their officers, blaming 9/11 on Amerikkkan evil, instead of the terrorists who actually did it, running off to Irag to be human shields, carrying signs proclaiming their joy that the twin towers were blown up, claiming Amerikkka is run by some sort of "neocon" (i.e., Jewish) conspiracy. . . I'm sorry, any democrats or liberals who might be reading this, but these are not the actions of people who care about their country.

Oh, and Poitiers Lepanto---I think the reason none of the saner Democrats are speaking out against this is because most of the sane people fled the party long ago, and have now become Conservatives, belong to no party whatsoever, or are posting on LGF!

I'm afraid the upcoming months, and the November election itself, are going to be all to interesting!

#97 zhombre :

a sort of quasi-MoDo

Oh, that was good.

Still got to love that "We're all working together." quote. Directly opens Kerry up for some serious questioning, not that I'm trying to imply this was his idea or that he'd condone it. But just the act of disavowing it could generate coverage that makes sleepy Americans ask what the hell is going on with this party.

#120 Dianna . . .

But can we cool off, just a touch, here?

Do you think that if it had been the other way around, the LLL-Liars would let up? Not on your life!

They want to whine? Fine. I say we should give them something to whine about (the Bustards are going to whine anyway)! HAMMER them with calls and emails and letters to the editors. Pursue them where ever they are. Write their employers. Call the resturant where they hang out (said resturant is already unhappy, tee hee. I didn't even have to be anything but polite!) Harrass them at every turn in every way you can legally finagle. No threats; no violence; just lots of questions about them advocating murder -- i.e., the truth!

Make their lives miserable. That's what they want to do to us. Is this un-Christian? Perhaps, perhaps not. These people have advocated murder and they need to be brought to the bar of justice. Only when the masses recognize that need and cry aloud can it happen. Let this drop? NO! All that is necessary for evil to triumph... What good does it do to bother the resturant, for instance? Let's see if we can derpive them of a place to continue their conspiracy.

United States Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter 51, Section 1117:

Section 1117. Conspiracy to murder

If two or more persons conspire to violate
section 1111, 1114, 1116, or 1119 of this
title, and one or more of such persons do any
overt act to effect the object of the
conspiracy, each shall be punished by
imprisonment for any term of years or for
life.

Ten to life? Sounds like a goal to shoot for! (Sorry, counldn't resist.)

#120

#124

It may interest you that, on first inspection, the reaction of some Democratics is that the St. Petersburg advertisement must be a hoax, a dirty trick put out by Republicans to tar the Kerry campaign. However, I strongly suspect the advertisement is real because it unfortunately reflects the genuine feelings of a minority of Democratic activists.

Whether the advertisement is a hoax or it is real, the Democratic establishment and the Kerry campaign must quickly oppose this tenor of the political campaign.

I am well aware that some Spanish Socialists may desire to export their Spanish Civil War into the United States, but that we have more important things to do than plunge our country into civil war. That would be a victory for Osama bin Laden. A majority of Americans, including a majority of Democrats and a majority of Republicans, strongly oppose civil war. Let's kill the terrorists attacking us, not one another.

Wasn't Kerry party to another group that was planning the assassination of certain political leaders?

I can just imagine Tony Soprano saying to his goons,

"We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say 'This is one of [y]our bad days,' and pull the trigger,"

When the goons come back and say, "We whacked him, boss," What's Tony gonna do, cuff 'em upside the head and scream ...

"You dumb SCHMUCKS! ... 'Pull the trigger' means let [him] know where we stand, not to shoot him!"?!

Just took at look at the article, and the original add as it appears in the Gabber. If anything, the original is even worse than the article makes it appear, calling the Iraqi terrorists, "Iraqi patriots" who simply want us out of their country.

Once again, the Democrats and the LLL act as the modern day version of the Copperheads of the Civil War era.

Of course, the Copperheads were aligned with the Democrats then too.

The more things change, the more they stay the same, I guess.

Zed:

It appears to be real. Esp. since the St. Pete Dem. Party website has had some changes in the last few hours. You can no longer contact the groups chairmen and the ad has been removed. Typical Leftie tactics - remove the ability to contact and remove the evidence. I bet Nixon could have learned a few lessons.

Can I question their patriotism now?!?

#111 Zheka

I have very strong feeling that a lot of Dems will vote for President Bush. Of course, what one says in public, and does in the voting booth can be very different things.

That said, there are a lot of Dems who would never voice publicly what they intend to do vis-à-is their Presidential vote, but who, I am confident, will vote for the President. A lot of Jews seem to be aware that the Dems are the enemy, and have been for years. Even individual union members will vote Bush.

Ed Koch has a lot of courage and decency to come out publicly for President Bush, and I feel he will have influence on quite a few voters.

Before I posted, I checked various media sources on line, and there is nary a word about this threat. I also held my nose, and checked Hanoi john's site. Nope, nothing there, either.

I, too, can only imagine what would be said if it had been the other way round, but I honestly would not expect this from the Republicans.

There are various racial terms which involve the different colors of certain fruits.

The term for a pinko environmentalist is a "Watermelon" - green on the outside, red on the outside.

So what to call these Reds who are Brown (-shirted) underneath?

The best I can come up with is Bloody Rectums.

(Sorry if I ruined anyone's lunch.)

It may interest you that, on first inspection, the reaction of some Democratics is that the St. Petersburg advertisement must be a hoax

Yes it's possible. But not terribly likely. The Bush campaign already got scorched when one of their own tried to plant a videotape of Bush's debate preparation on the Gore campaign, as if Gore illicitly spied on Bush. The campaign worker who tried that dirty trick went to jail.

The Demo spokesperson who put up the St. Petersburg ad answerd questions of Drudge, and should know she thereby subjects herself to a higher likleihood of conviction and focus on any supposed Bush camp ties.

I'd be surprised if any dirty trickster would be that self-sacrificing and/or stupid.

#134 NY Nana
I have very strong feeling that a lot of Dems will vote for President Bush.

Yeah, like me. I can no longer call myself a Democrat. By their standards, eventhough I'm very liberal on social issues, I'm a conservative. Go figure.

Amazing, isn't it! Consider me as switched also. I was raised demo, voted demo, supported demo, even when "king clinton" was getting a hummer in the white house. Things are serious now, after 9/11. This is treason, there is no two ways about it. I will never turn back to the democratic party, they are corrupt, anti-american, and lack any morals or clarity. If these fools would have just left their partisanship till after we cleaned up the middle east, that would be one thing...but to spew such hatred, death, and destruction as I see bandied about by the left, just amazes me.

You on the left have lost your way. America first, politics second.

I will fight for my right to be an American, free, and tolerant. I never advocated mudering republicans, but those around me advocate the death of our president. An American president.

You have stirred us with your hatred, lefties. You hide behind every "PC" tactic possible.

You are wrong, very simple. Blog for freedom my fellow patriots!!! Shine that light into every corner of the leftist world to root these liars and thieves out. Truth shall prevail!

The new civil war will be sort and sweet and have all the "blue state" guys corraled already in the cities...

The "red states" have the oil, grain, minerals, major manufacturing...and real Americans that can shoot and defend themselves...

The "blue states", have bath houses, ethnic-y jazz joints, coffee houses, arteests, Hollyweird, and poofs..

This must be a joke!

Considering that these days there are Starbucks franchises in rural Kansas... And all Americans, from the loony left to the radical right enjoy going to movies made in evvvil Hollywood and watching TV.

Fact is that no matter whether you go in America, 1/3 of the population is hopelessly liberal and 1/3 is rock-solid conservative. It's the middle third that make the difference between Berkeley and Boise something fun to talk about.

And it is fun to make fun of folks from other regions...but remember what civil war actualy is. It would turn America from the greatest country on Earth into Somalia. Last time we had one it killed 600,000 good men. It is not something to take lightly. People who preach civil war, whatever their persuasion, should be watched very, very carefully.

People wonder why the LLL support the Jihadist and the Islamo-facist although they are diametrically opposed. The answer is simple: Both groups feel that they are so superior that if anyone who questions them, they will encourage and condone the assassination of those poeple especially if they are political leaders.

The American Experience on PBS last night had a facinating episode on Emma Goldman. It was almost frightening to see the similarities between her and the An-Archists of her time and the Terrorists of today. It was also interesting to see the sympathy her biographers have for her - they were so impressed with your ideals that her methods were completely justified, even if that included assassination and murder. It is like the siren of Utopia is so strong that it blinds them as to the evilness of their actions.

Of course, Emma Goldman, lost many of her Utopian ideals when she was deported to the Soviet Union soon after the Russian Revolution. She then saw her Utopian ideals in action.

Now the Dems want to throw Rummy against a wall and "pull the trigger."

Remember last year when Bob 'the Hatchet' Mulholland promised to send "real bullets" Schwarzenegger's way during the California Recall?

And who can forget the LLL protest signs ...

We support our troops when they shoot their officers

LLLs have no problem with guns, so long as they are turned against America's own soldiers and leaders. They just don't like guns being turned upon America's enemies.

#99 re Lynn Stewart (Dirt be upon her):

This "woman" received a standing ovation from the mouth-breathers at NYU a number of months ago. This was shortly after she was indicted for aiding and abetting the blind Sheek in his plots to murder New Yorkers.

Too bad he didn't focus more of his malevolence on his fans at NYU. Cannibals.

BTW, you gotta wonder what Stewart gets out of all this: she's morbidly obese, ugly as homemade sin, and never fails to appear in public with greasy, stringy hair. Aggressively unattractive, no self-respect. I mean, at least she could wash her hair!

And this ain't entirely trivial: the shrinks say that lack of attention to personal hygiene is commonly associated with mental disorder...

#137 Bonnie

It is so much like 1984...

1984

The Dhummicrats, who once were for the 'little' man, etc., have morphed into a group of pod people. Somewhere within the shambles of the party, there are still decent, good people, who will have to try and rid themselves of the hate-filled,noisy majority.

I will stay a Republican now, for the rest of my life. Re-registering, after being an Indie since bubba drove us from the party, was a catharsis. Now I feel that my vote again stands for my principles, and I really am voting for President Bush because of who he is and what he has done, rather that holding my nose, voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

Forgive me if this has already come up, but is there any chance that this could be some kind of Karl Rove plant? I'm not saying that this sort of thing is beneath the Dems and the far left, but I thought they wouldn't be this overt.

Seems they can't even spell 'patriots', either.

It may interest you that, on first inspection, the reaction of some Democratics is that the St. Petersburg advertisement must be a hoax

See #136

I, too, am an Ed Koch Democrat. And good for him for having the b***s to come out in public, here in Moscow on the Hudson [g], and say he's going to vote for George.

I haven't left the Dem. party; they've left me. They, in their support (direct and indirect) of our enemies are now supporting the most virulently misogynist societies on Earth. The antiwar crowd are actively anti-American, working to undermine our country's efforts in war. The Israel-haters are morally in bed with the Nazis.

I came of age in the 1970s, and was never a knee-jerk pacifist. I had an argument with John Pike, a friend in those days, who was the president of Vanderbilt's Young Communist League. The YCL organized a large, angry protest of S. Africa's participation in the Davis Cup tournament on campus (their guy was a black man, BTW, but apartheid was still in place.)

I asked John why the YCL didn't ALSO protest the massacre of 2 million Cambodians by the Pol Pot regime, and he smiled smugly and said, "If you want to organize a march, I'll be happy to join the crowd." Wouldn't go near it. Wouldn't begin to admit that the Communists' murder of 2 MILLION people was a slight human rights prob...

Another thing. When I was writing for the UN, I saw how the Vatican and the Moslem mullahs joined forces at the UN Conference on Population and Development to block women's rights to birth control, etc. Now the "Left" is backing these guys?

Finally, the most sickening thing to me (and it's always chapped my ass) is the relentless vilification of America, and more specifically, the demonization of WASPs, which I am, dammit.

Enough! they no longer stand for much that I do. Except conservation [sigh].

The Democrats do NOT want to start a war. They couldn't even control the cities for more than three days. How long do you think New York would last if no vehicle moved into the city from anywhere else for three days? How effective do you think 200 people with high-powered rifles could establish a roadblock on each of the arteries into the city? Ships? I don't think so. The entire thing would fall apart in a week. Then the necktie parties would begin. Not a pleasant time in our history, but maybe a necessary one, what with the absolute refusal of the far left to face reality.

#106 Old Patriot
Too true. I'm a blue state person, myself (NY). Even the most heavily populated cities probably wouldn't have enough guns (let alone effective ones) to sustain a revolution.

Thats why I am not particularly afraid of far leftists. What are they going to do, bore me to death?

#133 Techie

LOL!

re: #127

I think chapter 41 is more relevant.

Hey, check out Allah, at allapundit.com! The fun just keeps coming.

Nope, it doesn't look like a Republican hoax. I never thought it was. My sole point was that the Grabber is a free shopping rag, and how often do you look at a political ad in that sort of thing? I never have, except when an acquaintance was running for the school board.

All I can say, after reading Allah is, "Yow!"

OT, but just too much an indicator of the difference in character of the President and Hanoi john heinz kerry.

Bushes Pay Over $225,000 in Federal Taxes

President Bush reported $822,126 in adjusted gross income for last year, on which he paid $227,490 in federal income taxes - or about 28 percent, according to the president's federal returns released Tuesday by the White House.

Bush and his wife, Laura, listed as income his presidential salary, interest and the investment income from trusts that hold their assets.

The Bushes' income and tax bill was slightly lower than the previous year, when the First Couple reported $856,056 in adjusted gross income and paid $268,719 in federal income taxes. For 2002, the Bushes paid about 31 percent of their income in federal taxes.

The Bushes reported itemized deductions of $95,043, including $68,360 to churches and charitable organizations, including Evergreen Chapel at Camp David, Md., Tarrytown United Methodist Church in Austin, Texas, St. John's Church in Washington, D.C., the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas and the federal government's Combined Federal Campaign.

Kerry Releases 2003 Income Tax Returns

To: National Desk, Political Reporter

Contact: Michael Meehan of John Kerry for President, 202-712-3000; [Link: www.johnkerry.com...]

WASHINGTON, April 13 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Sen. John Kerry has made public his 2003 income tax returns, as he has for past 20 years.

In 2003, Sen. John Kerry had $395,000 in taxable income and paid $90,575 in federal income taxes. Kerry had $43,735 in charitable contributions.

Last year, Kerry wrote "A Call to Service," of which had $89,000 in proceeds. Kerry is paying the taxes on the proceeds from the book and is donating the balance to charity.

The tax return also shows $175,000 in capital gains, from the sale of one-half interest of a painting, which was reported last year.

For a copy of the tax return, email Adam Abrams at aabrams@johnkerry.com

Paid for by John Kerry for President Inc.

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Nowhere did Hanoi john give his gross income. Nor did he itemize the charities he and Thereeeza gave to.
Hmmm.

They are "twin cities" like Oakland and San Fran.

Just to clarify, OAk and SF aren't really "twin cities"; we're actually part of a "tri-city" area that includes San Jose.

At least James Taranto's Opinion Journal has the article from Drudge. So far, not one news program has said a word.

Florida Dems: Murder Rumsfeld, Give Money to Kerry
Matt Drudge reports on an ad the St. Petersburg Democratic Club has taken out in the Gabber, a local weekly newspaper in the Gulf Coast city:

Senator Edward Kennedy is absolutely right when he called Iraq "Bush's Vietnam." But it's not only Bush. It's his whole damn Bunch: Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove and Ridge.

They've tried to blame the Iraq war on bad intelligence, on Al Qaida, on terrorists, on foreigners from Iraq and Syria. Bush doesn't even know who in the hell we're fighting. The Bush Bunch calls the Iraqis insurgents. Did you know that Britain called the American revolutionaries insurgents and traitors? The Iraqis aren't insurgents. They're Iraqi patriates [sic] who want us the hell out of their country, and we should get the hell out of their country now!

We have Marines and soldiers being killed by the dozens with many more wounded. How many have to be killed before the Bush Bunch is satisfied? How many burial services of our Iraq dead has Bush attended? Any? How many military hospitals has Bush visited to talk to our wounded who have lost arms, or legs, or their eye sight, or combinations of these--how many?

And then there's Rumsfeld who said of Iraq "We have our good days and our bad days." We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say "This is one of our bad days" and pull the trigger. Do you want t salvage our country? Be a savior of our country? Then vote for John Kerry and get rid of the whole Bush Bunch!

Please make a donation of ANY amount of money you can afford and send it to John Kerry for President, Inc. . . . Do it NOW. Thank you.

Suppose a local Republican club placed a newspaper ad soliciting donations for President Bush and urging the assassination of a prominent Democratic official. Would it not be national news? Why have we heard nothing about this ad--which appeared last Thursday--until now, and only from the Drudge Report?

Source

NY Nana - CNN has CNN has this to say:

So a Democrat is calling for the assassination of an elected official? Must be one of Kerry's old buddies from the Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

Maybe Kerry will give him a job in his campaign, too.

I agree with Frank #135. Rectums is too clinical though, how about just plain Bloody Assholes? No, that sounds too British. I guess I'll just have to reduce it to F*%@ ing Assholes.

#154 Realwest Johnson

Thanks. I just went to post the following when I saw your post. It really is a mealy-mouthed 'excuse', and late in coming.

I imagine those involved will get boiler room jobs from Hanoi john!

#155 Good ol southern boy, you are right!

St. Petersburg Democratic club ad says 'pull trigger' on Rumsfeld

St. Petersburg Democratic club ad says 'pull trigger' on Rumsfeld
MIAMI (AP) — Florida Republicans are crying foul after a St. Petersburg Democratic club placed a full-page ad in a weekly newspaper, saying Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld should be "put up against a wall" and someone should "pull the trigger."
The ad, appearing in last Thursday's edition of the Gabber, a weekly paper covering the Pinellas County community of Gulfport, included a lengthy criticism of the Bush administration's handling of the war in Iraq and then singled out Rumsfeld.

"And then there's Rumsfeld who said of Iraq 'We have our good days and our bad days.' We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say 'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger," the ad read under a banner "St. Petersburg Democratic Club."

"Do you want to salvage our country? Be a savior of our country? Then vote for John Kerry and get rid of the whole Bush Bunch!" The ad then directs financial donations to Kerry's campaign headquarters in Washington.

The bottom of the ad depicts an American flag and reads: "Iraq. Killed 623. Wounded 4927."

State Republican Party chairman Carole Jean Jordan called the ad "deplorable" and urged Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe, Florida Democratic Party chairman Scott Maddox and the local party chairman to repudiate the group's statements.

"I am shocked beyond words at what amounts to a call for the assassination of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club," Jordan said in a statement.

A Defense Department spokesman declined comment.

The ad listed phone numbers for club president Ken Steinke and vice president Edna McCall. Both lines were busy during repeated attempts by The Associated Press to reach Steinke and McCall for comment.

Mark Kornblau, a Kerry campaign spokesman, said the club was not working for their campaign "in any official capacity" and called for an apology.

"It is outrageous and does not in any way reflect the position of our campaign. We hope that those responsible will retract the statement, apologize for it and move on to more productive pursuits," Kornblau said.

Maddox said in a statement that the ad was "reprehensible and in poor taste" and urged its immediate removal and a formal apology.

State party spokeswoman Allie Merzer said the group is a social club chartered by the state Democratic party but does not receive funds from the state party and did not consult party before the ad was placed. She said the state party was reviewing the club's charter membership.

Ken Reichart, editor and publisher of the Gabber, with a circulation of 13,000, said the club paid $175 for the ad and has advertised in the newspaper periodically for the past two years. He considered not running the ad but chose to publish it because he felt the reference to Rumsfeld was a "figure of speech."

"I didn't get the visual of Ken Steinke, the author of the ad, standing in front of Rumsfeld with an Uzi. I got the picture of the parent saying 'Boy, I want to kill my kid.' It's just a figure of speech."

In retrospect, Reichart said he would not have published the ad because of all the attention it garnered after it appeared in the Internet's Drudge Report. In addition to 300 e-mails, Reichart said it "cost me a day's revenue. We've spent all day answering phone calls from the media."

Is this guy's brain in the right place? His values are wanting.

UPDATE:

I don't know if I'm the first one with this. I was so outraged that I didn't read the comments since yesterday.

This is the headline for this story in the St. Petersburg Times:

Political ad helps Gulfport weekly find world audience

Read the whole thing.

Here is the headline in the Tampa Tribune:

Ad Draws Big Notice To Little Newspaper

Slightly better than the St. Pete Times, but still doesn't tell the story. People browsing the headlines would think this nothing more than a "special interest" story.

Media bias? Naaah!

This call for Rumsfeld's execution prompted another comparative quiz, since the Moonbats seem so fond of them.

#99:

I was a juror at a trial in which Lynne Stewart was the defense attorney-- she lost. I don't know if she's considered an effective lawyer or not, but she seems to have an awful lot of spare time for outside projects...

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Hillary Clinton belongs in jail.