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Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 9:54:36 pm PDT

The Crown Prince of the Saudi entity sets our minds to rest about that whole terrorism thing: Islam Is a Religion of Peace, Says Abdullah.

RIYADH, 21 April 2004 — Crown Prince Abdullah, deputy premier and commander of the National Guard, yesterday reaffirmed that Islam is a religion of peace and moderation.

The crown prince was delivering the inaugural address at an international conference on Islam and terrorism, organized by Imam Muhammad ibn Saud Islamic University.

“Islam condemns all forms of terrorism and we must strive to correct wrong perceptions about our religion,” he said. “This is my vision.”

More than 200 experts on terrorism and academics from European, American and Asian universities and think-tanks attended the event, titled “The Stand of Islam on Terrorism, Violence and Extremism.”

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1 FH  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 7:55:23pm
Islam condemns all forms of terrorism and we must strive to correct wrong perceptions about our religion,” he said. “This is my vision.”


I feel better already...

2 Oktober  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 7:57:42pm

Really? Well, then, no need to have our troops in Iraq. Pull 'em out!

3 Oktober  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:00:27pm

Not only is it the religion of peace, but its also the religion of AIDS BOMBS.

4 Ken  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:00:34pm

Islam condemns all forms of terrorism and we must strive to correct wrong perceptions about our religion,? he said. ?This is my vision.?

He hits the nail right on the head. Terrorism is wrong and against his religion. But of course killing Jews is not terrorism.

5 AB  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:02:43pm
“Islam condemns all forms of terrorism and we must strive to correct wrong perceptions about our religion,” he said. “This is my vision.”

This isn't a wrong PERCEPTION. I don't think my eyes and ears and sense of smell are lying to me when I see, hear and smell muslims in my own University say, "violence is justified" and "Islam will finish you".

I think I have the right perception. Maybe instead of instructing me to close my eyes, how about instructing your followers to stop learning how to make bombs over the Internet.

6 Jono  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:10:55pm

Islam condemns all forms of terrorism perpetrated by Jews.

These acts of terrorism include breathing.

7 dany belinfante  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:13:18pm

Just so long as we're clear on the term "terrorism". It's NOT anything where violence is committed by Muslims. Because if it is committed by Muslims, it is resistance. And if it is committed by Muslims against Jews, it also earns you a place in paradise.

8 h.f.mudd  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:17:51pm

Where is this "Islam" that condemns all forms of terrorism? It doesn't appear to be the Islam that is actually practiced. He's going to have a hard time correcting "wrong impressions" as corpses continue to pile up in the name of Allah.

9 davic  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:18:10pm

Wow..

THis changes everything. What were we all thinking.

How much does a think tank wonk get paid to attend one of these conferences and listen to this vacuous dribble? I hope the hour devours were good, like sheep eyes with bagel and cream cheese.

10 Orbit Rain  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:27:08pm

Abdullah, put your money where your mouth is. Yes, you must declare war on your brothers. From what I hear, you are the guardian of the the land of that religion or somesuch...or do you not have that much sway? And I'd like to hear more than one line from you.

(anyone have a link to a translation of whatever he said?)

11 Cooper for President  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:27:26pm

Yeah. The religion of "peace."

I'm a 'tard, and even I don't buy that one.

And here's the Tard of the Week - Jermaine Jackass.

I'm glad that a guy who sold five albums and personally lined the pockets of the Jehri Curl fatcats feels that he's smart enough to lecture the rest of us on the error of our ways. He couldn't even join Islam properly. He joined the "Nation of Islam."

Bwahahahahaha!

Tard of the week, my friend. Tard of the week...

12 Cooper for President  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:32:25pm

(#8) h.f.mudd,

You wouldn't happen to be THIS H. F. Mudd, would ya?

:P

13 Mr. Pulpo  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:33:29pm
“Islam condemns all forms of terrorism and we must strive to correct wrong perceptions about our religion,” he said. “This is my vision.”

Hmm...Must be blind in one eye and can't see out the other.

14 Cooper for President  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:38:00pm
an international conference on Islam and terrorism

"Islam AND terrorism?"

Hello? Department of Redundancy Department!

15 patrickafir  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:39:08pm

You know, Abdullah, you Saudi crude exuding, sneering, backhanded lowlife, I think I'll just go by the words of your noble prophet.

16 Allah's disciple  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:53:33pm

You all misunderstand.

Allah brings you the Car Bomb of Peace.

If you don't get how peacefull we are, it will happen again.

How many jooos/infidels/children must die before you understand how commited I am to Peace?

Excuse me, I have to go beat my wife, she is mouthing off again ruining my Peace.

Peace out.

17 FH  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 8:54:43pm

The Saudis try their hand at American national politics, by attempting to sabotage Bush's re-election.

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

Nice. Wonder what they will do next.

18 SoCalJustice  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 9:01:45pm

FBI Chief Warns on Terrorists in China

And are these finally the Buddhist and Taoist terrorists we've been hearing so much about?

Nope.

BEIJING - FBI director Robert Mueller said Wednesday that China was home to Islamic fundamentalists who may want to further their ideological agenda by staging terror attacks.

[snip]

In 2002, the United States identified the Xinjiang-based East Turkestan Islamic Movement as a terrorist organization — a classification some believed was a diplomatic bone thrown to China in exchange for its tacit support of the American-led war on terror.

Washington has been mostly reluctant to back Beijing's claims of Muslim extremism in Xinjiang and has told Beijing that anti-terror efforts shouldn't be abused to target those with legitimate grievances against China's heavy-handed rule in the province.

19 brian  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 9:12:12pm

is there any such thing as a religion of peace?

20 Austin  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 9:15:08pm

Repeat after me, islam is the ROP...

And again, islam is the ROP...

SAY IT.

21 Julia the Horrible  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 9:19:33pm
Islam condemns all forms of terrorism and we must strive to correct wrong perceptions about our religion,” he said. “This is my vision.”

Islam = who? I thought it was a what.

We = who? Islam? which is a what...WHAT?

My vision = WTF?

This guy makes absolutely no sense.

His vision is probably clouded by sand on his Ray-Bans.

22 transferthem  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 9:21:05pm

Now let me guess what turns out to be the 'stand of islam on terrorism, violence and extremism'.

They'll conclude:

1. It's all the fault of the Jews;
2. It's all the fault of the Americans;
3. It's all the fault of the Zionists;
4. Muslims are the sole victims of terrorism, violence and extremism;
5. If only Israel were destroyed and all Jews were killed then there would be less terrorism, violence and extremism although it would be a good idea to knock off the Christians, Buddists and all other non believers in Islam to ensure a complete end to terrorism, violence and extremism.

23 patrickafir  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 9:40:25pm

#19   brian

My religion is peaceful, but then again, I have no religion.

24 SoCalJustice  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 9:40:45pm

Australian Arrested for Preparing Act of Terror

Lutheran? Druid? Falun Gong?

Nope.

The 34-year-old man, from Sydney's western suburb of Lakemba, was charged with seven offences that included preparing for a terrorist act, collecting or making documents likely to aid a terrorist act and recruiting for a terrorist organization.

He was due to appear in Sydney's Central Local Court later on Thursday.

Australian Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty said the arrest was part of a counter terrorism investigation, involving spy agency the Australian Secret Intelligence Organization (ASIO), into the activities of Brigitte and linked to the arrest of a 21-year-old man in Sydney last Thursday.

A university student was charged with being trained by the Pakistan-based Kashmiri separatist group Lashkar-e-Taiba, banned in Australia as a terror group. The offence carries a jail term of up to 25 years.

Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said at the time the court was told the man, who arrived from Pakistan in 1998, trained with Lashkar-e-Taiba for two months in early 2003.

Brigitte, an Islamic convert, believed to have links to Lashkar-e-Taiba, was deported from Australia to France last year.

25 DarthMaulrulesok  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 9:53:06pm

Re. no. 19, brian.

Absolutely. In fact, there are numerous religions of peace, where violence against innocents is strongly condemned. Judaism and Christianity to name just two. The only religion that preaches jihad (holy war) constantly is Islam.

By the way, how do you like LGF?

26 Planet56  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 9:59:39pm

#15
You know, Abdullah, you Saudi crude exuding, sneering, backhanded lowlife, I think I'll just go by the words of your noble prophet

It amazes me how the Islamic religion has their calendar upside down. What comes last comes first.
Whoever wrote the 'Star Trek" series with the "Ferengues" had to have been thinking about the Arabic mindset.

Thanks for the link and don't forget to praise the Ferengues !

27 HalfEmpty  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 10:11:38pm

ima always thought islam mean peace

28 SA  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 10:44:12pm

#18 SoCalJustice,

One can only hope that these assholes would stage an attack of terror on Chinese soil! They will come to realize how good they had it while only Israel and America where responding to their terrorism.

29 Omega  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 10:59:04pm

Islam is a religion of peace*

* ONLY if you are a Muslim

30 pantat  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 11:05:56pm

Sucks when bombs aren't going off on the Zionist Pigs or Americans.

Just what I always thought, terrorists would see how successful thier tactics were and try to dethrone even Muslim governments that support them.

Once again power corrupts even the mosque.

31 SoCalJustice  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 11:11:22pm

(#28) SA

One can only hope that these assholes would stage an attack of terror on Chinese soil!

They already have. The author of the article I posted is clueless.

One Killed in Bombing of McDonald's in China

In February, 1992 at least 6 people were killed in a bus bombing in Urumchi. In the summer of 1993, a bomb blast in a hotel in Kashgar killed 3 people.

32 pantat  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 11:15:18pm

OT

referring to the Jermaine Jackson article:

There is a now defunct company that you can look up called Landmark Entertainment in North Hollywood. Michael owned a part of it in order to design this theme park he always dreamed about.

Jermaine was one of the employees along with Jackie. Lots of infedel activities going on there.

the company is closed but I think you can google it and find some crap on Jermaine "useless" Jackson and see how he occupied his spare time. I think he hired his "muslim wife" (herum) to work there.

Cheers

33 SA  Wed, Apr 21, 2004 11:55:46pm

SoCalJustice,

But nothing on the scale of WTC or Bali. I think, the Chinese will respond quite differently if muslims were to touch a major finance center or a a more intenationally visible city.

34 SoCalJustice  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 12:09:50am

(#33) SA

I don't think the Uighurs have the resources for something that big - and probably can't pull sometihng like that off in a police state like China.

You never know though.

35 Jeremiah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 12:11:39am

ROPMA

/obligatory

36 SoCalJustice  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 12:16:18am

Some more angry Arabs, of the Palestinian variety:

Arafat Forces Fugitives to Leave His HQ


RAMALLAH, West Bank - Yasser Arafat forced 20 fugitives hiding in his West Bank headquarters to leave the premises early Thursday, fearing the Israeli army would invade the complex to grab them, one of the departing fugitives said.

The fugitives, all members of the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade, a militant group linked to Arafat's Fatah faction, have been hiding from the army in Arafat's headquarters for months. Israel has repeatedly demanded they be kicked out.

Last week, Israeli security officials summoned Ismail Jabber, commander of the Palestinian national forces, and told him if the fugitives were not forced out they would invade, and if necessary, pull them out of "Arafat's desk drawer," said a fugitive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Following that, five of the fugitives left voluntarily. Overnight, at about 3 a.m., Arafat — under pressure from his aides to get rid of the fugitives due to signs Israel was preparing to invade the city of Ramallah — personally told the 20 remaining men to leave, the fugitive said.

He said they had left but were angry.

37 pantat  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 12:20:31am

33

Muslims are not stupid enough to attack Chinese.

Not only are Chinese very concious of the way they were treated by Muslims in the 1995 genocide in Indonesia (watched a lot of Chinese media with my girlfriend), they also have no mercy on any extremist religion.

Take for example Falun Gong religion. My friend was telling me his neighbor's father was yanked from his home on the thought the he belonged to Falun Gong.

take also for example the border with Afghanistan. Arabs seem pretty content with thier neighbor in China. I think that they know to stay well away or they could get the ass whipping of thier life.

Sometimes I pray that our friends in China get involved in this. If they do you will see none of this seething and crying from Arabs, there won't be enough of them around to do so.

The ones that will be left will be so afraid of the mongol warriors they encountered they won't make a peep.

Please Arabs spread jihad to China if youre so f*cking tough, or are you afraid Allah will get slapped in the face by one billion chinese shoes.

38 Rayra Johnson  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 12:42:55am
#36 SoCalJustice 4/22/2004 02:16AM PST
Arafat Forces Fugitives to Leave His HQ

Eggselent.
Hopefully one of his own will return with a homicide vest and use it on him.

39 SA  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 1:18:51am

#37 Patat,

Exactly!

Another people that who would have been a match for islamists were the Japanese before WWII. I wish, that they had not becoming so civilized. Otherwise, they could have been sent to the sunni triangle and the famous insurgents would be a pile of bones right now.

40 pantat  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 1:57:05am

39

yeh, but I am afraid the Japs have such a fetish with Europe they have adopted thier politics. for some strange reason they have a fetish about Islam too.

I think the designer of the WTC used a lot of islamic patterns in the design. He was noted as being extremely infatuated with Islamic culture. Much of Japan is this way.

It doesn't matter this century belongs to China. I am afraid they might have to be the ones to rescue us after arabs successfully convince every whacko and criminal that thier government is against them.

Islam loves inmates.

41 little ramallah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 2:09:48am

So Imam Muhammad ibn Saud Islamic University is going peacenik, is it? Bullshit! Three of the five "most wanted" KSA terrorists profiled in this article either taught or studied there. I could dig up more on this academy of hatred and death, but what's the point if I found this info in 30 seconds?

Bullshit!

42 Ed Moran:abu Bomb Syria and Iran  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 2:28:19am
43 scaramouche  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 2:36:02am

I really want to believe the whole RoP thing but there's this little matter of jihad that keeps getting in the way.

44 Jimmy The Clam  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 2:58:15am

#42 - Ed Moran:abu Bomb Syria and Iran

I'm so happy to see that uber-skank take a hit.
Last year she was saying pearls of wisdom like this:

"I think he is very proud of the history of his country. I think it's we Americans who don't know the facts about what anthropologists call 'the cradle of civilization.' When we watch the bombing on television, we really don't seem to understand or appreciate that some of these places are sacred. . . . I disagree with those who say that Saddam Hussein doesn't think about this. He cares about these places and their people."

She defines the term "peace creep".

45 teacake  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 2:59:50am

if only the islamists would convert to Buddism.

46 Alex Bensky  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:18:44am

Where's the hypocrisy? Resistance against the usurping Zionists is, by definition, not terrorism but holy war. Remember, those six month old baby girls grow up to wear the uniform of the Zionist army. Better get 'em while they're still small and relatively immobile.

47 Axiom aka Iron Chef Patton  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:32:11am

If Islam is truly a Religion of Peace then how is that Muslims are so silent in condemning attacks on civilians by indentifying the perpetrators?

48 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:36:55am

46 ^^^alex^^^ POS, FOAD

49 little ramallah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:41:51am

Man, these people are sooo predictable. Here's the conclusion from the first session at the Islam and terrorism conference:

The participants recommended that the US and Israel should know that their practices constitute terrorism in the political concept accepted by all wise people in the world. They also recommended that the Muslim countries have to stand firmly against the Israeli terrorism committed by Sharon government in the occupied countries with political and military support from the US

Wankers.

50 nonic  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:41:55am

#3 Oktober

re AIDS bomb

Just when you think they've sunk as low as they can, these freedom-fighter, peaceful and pious TERRORISTS slip down another level.

This is the meaning of DEPRAVITY.

51 pantat(ifada)  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:44:25am

46

thats right you scumbag, now say what you really want to say so we can Guantanamo your ass!!!

Go ahead, you hope for more "uprisings" and would take part in them yourself. If your so brave identify yourself and your cause you coward.

Looking forward to seeing you shackled and blindfolded in an orange jumper.

toodles

52 Lively  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:48:40am

#17 FH, from your link:

Bandar said the Saudi efforts are "not for the benefit of the president's political needs. I think reasonable prices particularly lower oil prices between $22 and $28 is good for the American people, for the American economy, for the world economy and of course for the Saudi economy."

I'm glad the prince knows what's good for the US and SA.

53 justdanny  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:50:59am

Islam is a political idealogy, it is not a religion.

/feeling like a broken record

54 Henry S.  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:54:35am

It must be a slow day for the Reuters propaganda machine.

But where was Reuters "journalist" Cynthia Johnston when this story was developing?

55 Jed  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:56:07am

I saw Crown Prince Abdullah say this in a movie, but I can't remember whether it was "Alice in Wonderland" or "The Wizard of Oz."

56 ittle ramallah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:58:58am

Yo, Spain! (They shall have war, chapter 967501):

A gunman killed a Spanish civilian in a Baghdad supermarket on Thursday in an attack that underscored the risks facing foreigners in Iraq. Police sources said a lone assailant in traditional Arab robe and headdress shot the Spaniard in the head and badly wounded his translator in the Sunni Muslim Adhamiya district. "A gunman came in and shot them both," Aslan Khalil, an employee at the supermarket, told Reuters television. "When the gunman came in, he told us, 'This is a Jew, how do you deal with him and sell to him?"'
57 nonic  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:05:23am

#42
#44

Why is it that the peace-niks are so damn VIOLENT?

58 Mr Pol  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:08:01am
59 nonic  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:08:20am

Let's see...

Islam means Peace...

Peace-niks are typically violent sunsabitches...

?Maybe the rest of us misunderstand the word?

60 Darwin Akbar  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:10:14am

"Pay no attention to that heavily-armed man behind the curtain...The Great Oooze has spoken!"

#54 - great photo. It looks like that guy in the matching powder blue outfit is about to get kneecapped.

61 nonic  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:12:54am

#48 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Clue: look up the word "irony."

62 D. Edgren (the Merciless Infidel)  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:20:40am

1-RoPMA.

2-RoPMA, 3-RoPMA, 4-RoPMA.

5-RoPMA, 6-RoPMA, 7-RoPMA, 8-RoPMA, 9-RoPMA, 10-RoPMA.

[shouted at the top of my lungs]

RoPMA!

There, I feel better now.


D. Edgren

63 T. Jefferson  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:22:41am

Saudis Outraged by Riyadh Car Bombing

"God has promised wrath, damnation, painful torture and an eternity burning in hell for he who deliberately kills a Muslim... Unjustly killing a Muslim is the gravest crime which cannot be atoned," said the kingdom's highest religious authority, Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz bin Abdullah al-Sheikh.
"I tell all Muslims that this act is a sin, it is one of the greatest sins," he said in a statement. "Aiding, calling for, or facilitating the murder of a Muslim is tantamount to involvement in murder and all who do so will be thrown by God into the flames of hell, for so dear is the sanctity of Muslim blood."
64 nonic  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:24:05am

Let's see...

Islam means Peace...

Peace-niks are typically violent sunsabitches...

Maybe "peace" is an acronym, and it stands for

Propagate Extremism And Carnage Everywhere ?

65 Miss Trixie  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:25:16am

OT but...


Maher Arar suing Canadian officials


Maher Arar and his family have launched a 400 million dollar lawsuit against the Canadian government, CSIS, the RCMP and Foreign Affairs officials.

Words fail me.

66 pantat  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:26:09am

63

About the Article:

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa *breathing* HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!

I am sure it was either the buhddists, Americans, or Mossad.

67 little ramallah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:30:14am

66 pantat

Word on the Saudi street was that it must have been the Americans. They issued a KSA terror warning a few days ago, so they knew. And if they knew, it was them.

/Arab logic

68 T. Jefferson  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:32:21am

pantat:

No doubt it was those militant Episcopalians.

69 Smit  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:37:46am

Hmm, what did Abdullah know, and when did he know it?
Besides everybody knows that the Saudi royal family are Jews really

/Sarcasm

the link goes to a David Icke site.

70 Chuck Pelto  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:47:42am

TO: Charles Johnson
RE: Okay...

"“Islam condemns all forms of terrorism and we must strive to correct wrong perceptions about our religion,” he said. “This is my vision.”" -- Someone cited by Charles Johnson, telling us that Islam is a 'religion of peace'.

...can I get an "fatwa"? How about a simple "amen"?

Regards,

Chuck(le)

71 Chuck Pelto  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:49:52am

TO: nonic
RE: Veeerrry Good!

"Maybe "peace" is an acronym, and it stands for

Propagate Extremism And Carnage Everywhere ?" -- nonic

You are now the official acronym control officer here.

Keep up the good work.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

72 Chuck Pelto  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:50:32am

Or you SHOULD be.

73 pantat  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:51:28am

68 Jeff

No, if Episcopalians did it the crime would have been so stiff and boring no one would report it. (LOL) They may look like catholics but at least they can divorce!

69 Smit (your article)

That was the coolest conspiracy I EVER heard. F*ck that was so bizarre and scarry it was actgually COOL!

In the History Book of the Saudi Family pages 98-101, their private family historian declares that the Saudi dynasty considers all people of Najd blasphemous, so their blood must be shed, their properties confiscated, and their females taken as concubines; no Muslim is authentic in his/her belief unless he/she belongs (affiliates) to the sect of Mohammad bin Abdul Wahab (whose origins are also Jewish from Turkey.) His doctrines give authority to the Saudi Family to destroy villages with all their inhabitants-males including children, and to sexually assault their women; stab the bellies of the pregnant, and cut off the hands of their children, then burn them! They are further authorized by such a brutal doctrine to plunder all the properties of which they call renegades (not following their Wahabi sect.)

Yeesh even jewish muslims are bloodthirsty! But hey, isn't Ossama in someway related to Saudi family? Dothat make him a *gasp*???

74 Frank IBC  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:53:34am

#69 Smit -

In Saudi Arabia, archeology is pretty much banned because every time you dig more than six inches deep, you get Hebrew writing all over the place.

While Icke is obviously not the most reputable source on this subject, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Sa'udis had at least some Jewish ancestry.

Even the Pashtuns are rumored to have Jewish ancestry.

75 Ayatollah Ghilmeini- Believe in the Victory  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:55:26am

The Saudi bombing yesterday is evidence of the elephant in KSA's room: how can one of the most Islamic of all countries- stoning, wife beating, zero human rights, slavery, beheadings=100% Islam- be under attack by al Qaida? Can they possibly be more Islamic? Could their worldwide mosque and madrassas be more extremist in their teachings and advocacy?

Even Taliban Afghanistan had a couple of Jews and Hindus running around, KSA tolerates none.

Al Qaida beleives they can topple the kingdom and use the oil wealth for their ends. They may be right too; the princes have zero popular support. In a fair election, bin Laden would win every time.

Yesterday's hammer blow (ever seen a building that destroyed with only 10 dead? you know the casualty figures were much higher) hit the kingdom in the testicles- the internal security forces are the secret police that holding the kingdom together.

The house of Saud can not survive longer in this environment; it can't be any more Islamic, the people committing these attrocities will only accept abject surrender. The worthless princes won't fight for anything, and as the only real stake holders in the kingdom, are too few to hold up the sand castle.

Al Qaida's strategy is clear- using superviolence, they can mau-mau the entire world to its knees. The only thing that holds them back is the American superstate. So long as America keeps its resolve to see the war to victory, al Qaida cannot win.

76 Frank IBC  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 4:55:59am

Smit -

From your link -

a group of men from Al Masaleekh Clan, which was a branch of Anza Tribe, formed a caravan for buying cereals (wheat and corn) and other foodstuff from Iraq

Why the "help" with the meaning of the word "cereal"? Does Mr. Icke fear that we would think the Al Masaleekh were trading in Fruity Pebbles and Lucky Charms?

77 Smit  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:02:26am

Frank & pantat - Heh, I think David Icke's basic philosopy is that everyone in the world who is powerful is 'reptilian' or a Lizard ... hang on, who let him in on the conssspiracy?

78 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:15:05am

OT - The Aussies get one, Sydney man on terror charges

79 Frank IBC  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:15:58am
80 ShiksaGrrrl  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:18:43am

Isnt the Crown Prince of Saudi one of the Royal Family members that does support terrorism?
The same that runs the religious police force?

I am so tired of their bullshit!

81 WriterMom  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:20:03am

#79 Frank IBC

Please! Give me a break. I listen to "Barney's Greatest Hits" three or four times a night-and now he's invaded LGF. AHHH!!!

But seriously GOOD NEWS FOR TORONTO LIZZARDS: Victor Davis Hanson is coming, la la la la la...

It's at Holy Blossom Temple: May 17th at 8:00. Topic: Israel and the Defence of the West.

Someone pass me a fan...is it getting hot in here???

82 little ramallah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:21:57am

Silly lizards, of course the Sauds are a Jewish plot!:

Historically Arabs and Jews lived together in the Arabian desert, yet when Islam flourished throughout the Arabian Peninsula, many Jews converted to Islam, and some left the peninsula and immigrated to other regions of the world. Most importantly, some Jews did not want to leave their land and belongings behind, yet they did not particularly enjoy seeing Islam flourishing and they wanted to help stop its fast spread. Their only means of causing any harm to Islam was to mask themselves as Muslims and work from within. The remainder of those Jewish tribes can be traced to [Najd] the area where Abdul Wahab came from. Those tribes, in cooperation with other forces such as atheists, Sun worshippers, Idol worshippers,…. etc. joined forces in conducting a long term covert operation style to unleash a multi-front multi-scale warfare against Islamic doctrine and teachings
83 WriterMom  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:22:40am

Shiksa Grrrl

#80 Are there any Saudi Princes who do not support terror and the religious police?

Bwahahaha!

84 Abu Jimbola  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:23:00am

The creep has to say all this.

The Koran requires the muslim to lie to the kuffirs to advance the muslim cause.

85 pantat  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:25:27am

80

Apparently he's one of those self hating jews...that picnic bench cloth on his head is covering the fact that his real identity is Richard cabeza!

His father was jewish, but I don't think he is!!

:p

86 Earl  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:25:43am

#65 MT

Consider the worst scenario. The feds cave, and reach a settlement of the case, "on undisclosed terms". Maher uses the tax-free cash to support the extension of the ummah in Canada.

Meanwhile, his islamist wife Monia Mezigh (brought to you by the Jew-hater Svend Robinson's NDP) beats David McGuinty, and proudly (shurely, "triumphantly"?- ed.) takes her place in the House of Parliament. Whereupon she will sit on the Human Rights and Social Development Committees, and agitate to abolish the Canada-Israel Committee. All the while being lionized by the idiotarian, multi-culti press.

87 WriterMom  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:26:48am

#82 little ramallah

Sorry to disappoint you but this is the real secret Jewish weapon.

Don't tell anyone, OK?

88 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:36:09am

I'm late, I had no time and I read nothing. But I found this in yesterday's thread about the WP and the blog ads,

And I love it:

“This is the campfire that the partisans are gathered around”

Well, well.
I love it.
That's what we are.
The Partisans of the new War against fascism.

89 little ramallah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:42:22am

87 LOL! "Raisins, optional golden" is the giveaway, isn't it? Oops!

Princes and terror: clown prince Abdullah is widely billed as a "moderate". I think there may be something to that, well, as far as that horrifically abused word goes in the Saudi context, that is.

Nayef, the interior minister, is the real stinker. He's the one who said the Jews did 9/11. He controls security, the clergy and the media. Disturbing profile of Nayef here

90 Ed Moran:Abu Rantisi's Subaru  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:44:14am

Let me explain this for you, the bombing in Saudi Arabia yesterday was terrorism because Muslims were killed, but no infidels.


The bombing in Basra was not terrorism because all, or at least, most, of the dead were Shi'ites, and we all know the Shia are apostates.


Bombings in Israel, by definition, are not terrorism.

Publicly, the WTC/Pentagon attacks are called terrorism. Privately, there weren't, because other than an Indian waiter named Mohammad in "Windows on the World", who was a Muslim but not an Arab, almost all the dead were infidels.

Thank You

/Prince Bandar

91 WriterMom  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:53:03am
92 Leah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 7:51:08am

And these People know our Business BEFORE...WE ..know our Business. There is something radically WRONG with this..and there is something very dangerous to us in this. Weve got to break up this cozy relationship. Thats ALL there is to it. I thought it was limited after Bush Sr was there but apparantly it is NOT. The Saudis are STATE DEPT...East.

Not only is it dangerous to America..its dangerous to any ally that is with us. Britian, and Israel. The Saudis are NOT friends of the US really..and are simply selling their Oil and biding their time. Its the SAUDIS that have funded terrorism all these 20 years..Its the Saudis that have also funded and placed mega Mosques and Community Centers round the world..where their Clerics spout anti Americanism, AntiChristianism, and AntiSemetism. All under the charming "cover" of PR Trained Bandar.

Cant have thse people knowing all this stuff. Its UNEXCEPTABLE. We have to STOP this. They are active one way or the other in EVERY ADMINISTRATION. Sooo the stopping has to target both Dems and Repubs. But someone is going to HAVE TO SPEAK TO the Bushes. Hellooo.
Before you run to quickly defend...there is a HISTORY to all this. A very scarey one at that..DOCUMENTED...

93 aphex jim  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 8:20:05am

Imperial Japan, Facist Germany and Communism all had the same concept of "peace".

Just kill or enslave anyone who won't "submit" and when done all will be peacefull.

Islam means "submission" not "peace".

94 Jerry  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 9:22:54am

While condemnation is written, verbally expressing this is another matter to their own audience.

Another link on arab news states that two 'atomic experts' were arrested. Reading between the lines; the source of info from Iran's nuclear ambitions have been caught. Too bad. Link follows.

[Link: arabnews.com...]

95 Troy Sheer  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 3:21:50pm

Some of my research has shown that Islamists are to never harm another peaceful religion. I guess the middle east did not get that memo. If they wish to change the worlds toward themselves, they have an uphill battle. Out of the 30 or so armed conflicts around the world like 25 of them have to do with Muslims. Go figure.


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