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Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 7:37:09 am PDT

The Associated Press continues their shameless whitewashing of radical Islam, with a blatantly misleading headline: Saudi Cleric Denounces Suicide Bombing.

Grand Mufti Abdul-Aziz al-Sheik, the kingdom’s highest religious authority, denounced the bombing in a statement carried by the official Saudi Press Agency.

“God revealed the criminality of this wayward group, which harms Islam and the nation,” al-Sheik said. “Instead, it aims at destabilizing security, terrorizing the people and killing Muslims.”

“Whoever kills an (Islamic) believer on purpose will be punished by being burned in hell, punished by God’s anger and will be cursed and suffer great pain,” he said.

Note: the Grand Mufti of the Saudi did not condemn suicide bombings in general. He denounced this suicide bombing, and only because it was targeted at Muslims. You didn’t hear one word from the Grand Mufti when Islamic suicide terrorists struck in Bali, in Israel, in Istanbul, in Madrid, or in New York City.

And the oil ticks’ Interior Minister is even more up-front about it:

While visiting the wounded in a hospital, Interior Minister Prince Nayef said the “terrorists are not targeting foreigners; they are targeting the nation.”

UPDATE: Allah informs me that the Grand Mufti did issue a half-hearted condemnation of the 9/11 attacks, a few days afterward when the Saudis were in serious butt-covering mode.

“Firstly: the recent developments in the United States including hijacking planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood, constitute a form of injustice that cannot be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts.

“Secondly: any Muslim who is aware of the teachings of his religion and who adheres to the directives of the Holy Qur’an and the sunnah (the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad) will never involve himself in such acts, because they will invoke the anger of God Almighty and lead to harm and corruption on earth.

“Thirdly: it is the duty of the Muslim ulema (religious scholars) to make facts clear in this respect, and to clarify that Islam never accepts such acts.

“Fourthly: the media which try to defame Islam and Muslims in order to rally against them the feelings of various nations, should immediately stop this unacceptable and unjustifiable practice, since all reasonable and just people know that such biased accusations have nothing to do with Islam.”

UPDATE: Here’s a more complete account of the Grand Mufti’s condemnation of the Saudi bombings; compare the following to the post-9/11 statement above: Riyadh bombing attack condemned by Grand Mufti. (Hat tip: Abu Maven.)

“God has promised wrath, damnation, painful torture and an eternity burning in hell for he who deliberately kills a Muslim... Unjustly killing a Muslim is the gravest crime which cannot be atoned,” said the kingdom’s highest religious authority, Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz bin Abdullah al-Sheikh.

“I tell all Muslims that this act is a sin, it is one of the greatest sins,” he said in a statement. “Aiding, calling for, or facilitating the murder of a Muslim is tantamount to involvement in murder and all who do so will be thrown by God into the flames of hell, for so dear is the sanctity of Muslim blood.”

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1 V the K  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:39:01am

They have sown the wind and they shall reap the whirlwind.

2 Sgt. Mom  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:42:21am

Yeah, my heart bleeds, when those who dish it out to other people get a taste of it themselves...

3 Allah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:43:16am
You didn’t hear one word from the Grand Mufti when Islamic suicide terrorists struck in Bali, in Israel, in Istanbul, in Madrid, or in New York City.

Lies! More of the Zionists' lies!

4 confuzzled  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:43:26am

Grand Mufti --- what are these guys Shriners or something?

5 SoCalJustice  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:43:51am
You didn’t hear one word from the Grand Mufti when Islamic suicide terrorists struck in Bali, in Israel, in Istanbul, in Madrid, or in New York City.

Well, you heard words of praise. Especially for the brave mujhadeen of Filasteen, fighting the wicked, criminal Zionists.

6 Ayatrollah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:44:09am

The crocodile is eating itself!

7 sefton  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:46:13am

Yup, Sheihk Abdulard no-Salami must be shittin' his pants about now.
" Don't be killin' us, just keep on killin' them."

8 scaramouche  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:47:06am

I wouldn't be surprised if AP was secretly on the Wahabi's payroll.

9 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:47:39am

I know I'm supposed to feel bad when people are murdered in cold blood and all, but after these two little gems today, I don't feel a damned thing. If you willingly fund and support terrorist operations around the world, you get what you deserve.

10 TalkinKamel  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:49:23am

If you throw open the door to a pack of wolves, you've no right to complain if they take a few bites out of you while they're attacking your enemies!

11 Solomon X  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:49:49am

Well, technically AP is right, he only denounced the one suicide bombing, not suicide bombings. Frankly I am in favor of Al Q inciting internecine conflict.

OT but AP is also reporting

As many as 3,000 people were killed or injured Thursday when two trains carrying oil and liquefied petroleum gas collided and exploded in a North Korean train station, South Korean media reported.

Link

Didn't this same thing happen in Iran a few months ago, involving similar catastrophic damage? Veeery curious . . .

12 Clark Golem Kent  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:49:50am

I'm still waiting for the [bigoted word] civil war to break out. You know, the one with the peaceful ones fighting against the violent ones. Oh wait, maybe it's the one with the reform-minded ones against the radicals. Oh wait. Mabe not.

13 CPatterson  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:50:23am

Nothing about children going to school either.

I normally wouldn't take joy from any terrorist action -- but in this case -- My heart bleeds purple piss for the Frauds.

14 papijoe  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:50:37am

*gasp*

did Charles call them oil ticks?

Why that's blatantly racist culturally insensitive an outrageous generalization actually pretty damn accurate, but not very nice

my knee has stopped smacking into the underside of my desk.
Nevermind.

/?

15 Mr Pol  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:51:46am

The victims of this bombing were neither members of the Saud family nor clerics. In other words, once again, terrorism strikes innocent victims.

16 Abu Maven  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:52:24am

For the record, if I am not mistaken, this Muft did speak out against the attacks in NYC. According to a book I just finished, he is more "moderate" than most of the other Saudi clerics. Ironically, even though he is Grand Mufti, he is less influential.

I did agree with Charles' interpretation last time when the Mufti condemned bombing against only Muslims and non-Muslims given sanctuary in Muslim lands.

17 Abu Jimbola  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:53:29am

OT UNSCAM single purpose blog

Through Mark Steyn, found a link for a blog dedicated to the UNSCAM story.

[Link: acepilots.com...]

18 Clark Golem Kent  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:54:35am

#15
When does terrorism not strike the innocent?
Of course, when Israel or the US defends itself, that is also branded terrorism. The woid, it mean nuttin'.

19 sefton  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:54:36am

Instant Karmas gunna get...them.

20 Ed Moran:Abu Arafat's Citroen  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:57:26am

Man, I could have been a psychologist in Riyadh, I know how these people think.


#90 Ed Moran:Abu Rantisi's Subaru 4/22/2004 07:44AM PST


Let me explain this for you, the bombing in Saudi Arabia yesterday was terrorism because Muslims were killed, but no infidels.


The bombing in Basra was not terrorism because all, or at least, most, of the dead were Shi'ites, and we all know the Shia are apostates.


Bombings in Israel, by definition, are not terrorism.

Publicly, the WTC/Pentagon attacks are called terrorism. Privately, there weren't, because other than an Indian waiter named Mohammad in "Windows on the World", who was a Muslim but not an Arab, almost all the dead were infidels.

Thank You

/Prince Bandar

21 Judith  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 5:59:25am

Saudis are rushing about trying to do major damage control. Series on Saudi Arabia doesn't do us justice. wirtten by Dr. Mohammed R. al-Hussaini al-Sharif is Saudi Arabia's Ambassador to Canada.

It's not working.

In case that link doesn't work here's some highlights.

"In response to this unwelcome attention, Riyadh began circulating boilerplate lists of Saudi achievements as a means to convince the world that the country is actually a rosy place. The essay that appears on this page under the byline of Saudi Arabia's Ambassador to Canada is a product of this public relations operation. The upbeat tone and statistics will be familiar to any journalist who has had dealings with Saudi officials since 2001."

"In many other respects, however, the Ambassador's account doesn't mesh with reality. Space does not permit a paragraph-by-paragraph rebuttal. Instead, I will focus on the three areas where the departure from fact is most glaring: terrorism, the treatment of women and the compatibility of Saudi values with our own."

"The Saudi stance on women is but one example contradicting the Ambassador's denial that there exists "any conflict between Western modernism and militant Islam." At the heart of the Western political creed is due process, freedom of expression and -- most importantly -- the separation between church and state. As the abysmal treatment of Canadian Bill Sampson shows, these values are absent in Saudi society: The Koran is the national constitution, and courts there mete out justice according to the principles of Shariah.

"The Saudi stance on women is but one example contradicting the Ambassador's denial that there exists "any conflict between Western modernism and militant Islam." At the heart of the Western political creed is due process, freedom of expression and -- most importantly -- the separation between church and state. As the abysmal treatment of Canadian Bill Sampson shows, these values are absent in Saudi society: The Koran is the national constitution, and courts there mete out justice according to the principles of Shariah."

"In coming years, we may even see Crown Prince Abdullah, Saudi Arabia's de facto ruler, take some baby steps toward democratization. But as things stand, Saudi Arabia remains a bastion of intolerance and extremism."

22 Islamophobe  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:01:08am

Since #1 beat me to the post, I shall add that "They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind" is a passage from Hosea 8:7. To this I add that since the Saudis raised and nourished this monster, it is only fair that they share generously in the consequences of their actions. May Allah make their share a large one.

23 realwest  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:02:02am

#14 papijoe - started the new job already or is that your
home office desk?!!

Glad to see ya out here, bud!!

I've been trying to "hold the fort"* but a number of "regs" have been out having a "life" (ya know, trying to earn a living and what not) and haven't been posting as much.

*But someone's gotta do it!!!

Hope things are going well for you.

24 Judith  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:04:59am
Zionists' lies!

This is an ironic joke of course.

25 WriterMom  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:06:57am

#14 papijoe

You're baaa-aaack.

We've missed you!!! Why did you just slink back in? You shoulda made a grand announcement. If it wasn't 11:00 we could have a drink!

26 Mr Pol  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:08:45am

#25 WriterMom

If it wasn't 11:00 we could have a drink!

It's 6 pm in Israel. Hope it helps.

27 papijoe  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:09:25am

#23 realwest

Tomorrow's my last day at the old salt mine.

I start the new one on May 3. Will probably take off the week in between. Unfortunately my DSL connection is hosed.

Trying to prepare for the withdrawal symptoms.

28 realwest  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:09:35am

#25 WriteMom - "If it wasn't 11:00 we could have a drink! "

Whadda ya mean?

Um, the bars in my neighborhood are open!!

:>)

29 realwest  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:12:18am

#27 papijoe - I don't understand what you mean that your DSL connection is "hosed".
I'm still running (well, ok, walking quickly) on dial up (covers head in shame!) and I can still "internet" or whatever.

30 Powderfinger  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:12:36am

Has anyone else seen the TV ads for the "Kingdom Holding Company" explaining how it "reaches out" from it's headquarters in SA through investments in Citibank, Disney, etc...

Capitulating News Network has been swamped with them. I wonder what they're trying to warn us about tell us.

31 papijoe  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:17:03am

#25 WriterMom

I missed y'all too. It's torture to have a few minutes to check in but not time to post.

Once I settle into a groove and get my sales mojo working at the new company, I should be back to normal.

32 realwest  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:19:10am

#31 papijoe -"I should be back to normal."

uh oh.

;>p

33 Abu Maven  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:21:03am

This is even more damning:

"God has promised wrath, damnation, painful torture and an eternity burning in hell for he who deliberately kills a Muslim... Unjustly killing a Muslim is the gravest crime which cannot be atoned," said the kingdom's highest religious authority, Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz bin Abdullah al-Sheikh.

"I tell all Muslims that this act is a sin, it is one of the greatest sins," he said in a statement. "Aiding, calling for, or facilitating the murder of a Muslim is tantamount to involvement in murder and all who do so will be thrown by God into the flames of hell, for so dear is the sanctity of Muslim blood."


[Link: newsfromrussia.com...]

34 little ramallah  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:29:35am

It's true the Gland Poofti condemned 9/11. And the use of suicide bombers. But I've found no condemnations of bombing in general or any individual terror attacks bar 9/11 and Saudi hits.

I guess that does make him a "moderate" in the Magic Kingdom. Here are some of his moderate words of wisdom:

On the arrest of Saudi liberals for, um, signing petitions calling for reform: "Those who cast doubt on the nation's leadership ... are the true enemies even if they call for reform"

On a woman addressing a Saudi business conference: "Allowing women to mix with men is the root of every evil and catastrophe. It is highly punishable. Mixing of men and women is a reason for greater decadence and adultery."

On Saudis demonstrating for human rights: "demonstrations are the behaviour of non-Muslims"

On the US: "the enemy has exposed its fangs and is fighting our religion and is doing its best to drive Muslims away from their religion."

On last year's drought in Saudi: "Saudi's top Muslim cleric, Grand Mufti Sheik Abdul-Aziz bin Abdullah al-Sheik, said God was holding back the rain this year because Saudi people had been "immersing in sin and forbidden acts. God afflicts people with drought and shortages of rain so that they can move closer to him with good deeds''

Last but not least, on why Muslims cannot make April Fools Day jokes (seriously!): "It is prohibited because lying is prohibited at all times and under all conditions except for three. Lying is permitted only when it brings reconciliation between people, occurs during times of war, or when a husband or wife must protect the honour of the spouse, he said."

What a smart and fun lovin' guy!

35 realwest  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:31:40am

Whoa Charles - posting at, what, 4:30 AM left coast time?

Must be trying to make up for your "cycling" absence the other day!

36 WriterMom  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:32:16am

#26 Mr. Pol

OK-you drink and say a l'chaim for us if it's happy hour in Israel.

#28 realwest abu-shared-birthday-boy, it's really too early for me...and I'm studying for an exam! It's WriterMom Beuler's Day Off.

#31 papijoe

I don't think we've ever discussed your mojo before-sales or otherwise :P

37 big L  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:38:15am

Maybe this bomb in Riyadh is a put-up-job.Ordered by the royals to show how they are getting hassled too and back off the other bombers, and show the new
euro-appeasers, hey werre bommbed too.Clever.
They are so good at PR and pay for the best firms here
is the US. I could see some flack say that now is the time for a 'situation' to happen to throw 'watchers-n-waiters' of the track. Kind of 'look over here,look over here' while the Sods are fiddling with the oil or providing
cover for splodeydopes in Iraq. IMO the sods are the
finance for the mob--money flows to the jihadis from them to intermediaries (buffers like in the Godfather)then to the perpetrators.
I wish we could interdict that route.

38 realwest  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:38:43am

#36 WriterMom - if you're studying for an exam, of course I understand.
But then what the hey are you doing talking to papijoe about his mojo?!!!

I never knew chicks, er, ah, girls (damn!) WOMEN could be as obsessed about these things as us guys are!

I know. Grammatically that should probably be "as are us guys", but it doesn't read as funny!!

:>)

39 papijoe  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:43:40am

#29 realwest

I don't understand what you mean that your DSL connection is "hosed".

I'm sorry, I forgot you are a layman and a lawyer, so I'll belay the technospeak. "Hosed" is a technical term that refers to modulation interference on an asyncronous TCP/IP connection resulting in non-recoverable packet loss. So in terms that even a lawyer can understand, it's FUBAR!

40 realwest  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:47:30am

#39 - papijoe - oh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me!!!

41 papijoe  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:47:38am

#36 WriterMom
#38 realwest

Mojo

42 Wanderer  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:52:16am

OT:

Bush Marks Earth Day, Talks of 'Progress'

I can almost hear the snide tone in al-AP's headlines on Bush these days ("progress"...ha). That on top of their shameless fawning over the ROP makes me feel like I'm getting my headlines from Qatar some days.

43 Geepers  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:54:38am

Realwest,

Um, the bars in my neighborhood are open!!

Followed by:

Whoa Charles - posting at, what, 4:30 AM left coast time?

Proves the first to be true. ;-)

[Sips beer with a satisfied smile]

44 pantat  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 6:58:05am

*Munson laugh*

(from Simpsons for you lizardoids living under a rock)

Munson: "You bombed your own selves. Ha Ha! You guys are sissies!"

For the first time I really mean it:

ALLAHUAHKBARRR!!!

45 WriterMom  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 7:02:17am

#38

realwest

This is neither the time, nor the thread for this kind of talk. Please check back with me when a Rummy picture is posted.

And, I've already mentioned that the temperature is going to rise in Toronto when Victor Davis Hanson speaks here next month.

OK-must get back to Europe (figuratively...didn't want to upset bigel).

46 Geepers  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 7:08:59am

WriterMom (#45),

This is neither the time, nor the thread for this kind of talk. Please check back with me when a Rummy picture is posted.

Rummy in the movies.

47 realwest  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 7:14:52am

43 Geepers - um, what? Do you mean I made an error with my math (lights in this place are SOOO low I might not have correctly seen my calculator's display)?

And how can you have a "satisfied" smile drinking your beer when you didn't order a round for me and WriterMom. Speaking of whom:

WriterMom - ignore Geepers' post at #46 - just trying to distract you from your studying!!!

Gotta walk fast to work, kids!!

See ya later!!

48 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 7:32:11am

Sorry about this again:

Any DC/VA/MD lizardoids who emailed me concerning the meetup, check your email.

49 AU  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 7:32:39am

In short, it goes something like this:

9/11 Condemnation by the Mufti:

Such an act is bad. Those who did it are not Muslim. They do not represent Islam. Western media should stop their propaganda against Islam. Bad. Not good.


Saudi Suicide Bombings Condemnation by Mufti:

Such people are sons of dogs and they will go to hell and rot like eggs in the sun...they will burn in pain and die a thousands deaths...they will live like pigs and be stepped on by my holy sandal...

50 Colt  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 7:36:20am

It's weird to think that, if the US were invading KSA, we'd have hit the same place with a lot more ordnance.

51 Dr. Leo Marvin, M.D.  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 7:40:57am

I'll take the baby steps approach towards condemnation of terrorism, but i still prefer death therapy for homicide bombing scum.

52 Yaffir Assahat, Unrequited Suicide Bomber Lover  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 7:59:53am

If G-d has "a hard-on for Marines," what do they do for Allah? Make him curl up in a ball in a corner, suck his thumb and wet himself?

53 papibob  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 8:17:25am

#51 Dr. Leo Marvin, M.D.

LOL! Is there a number I can reach you at when you're on vacation?

54 Austin  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 8:21:39am

Don't killl mooslims, you stupid son of dung beatle! Kill the JOOOS !!!

55 House  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 8:36:10am

WHY THERE ARE TERRORISTS

Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.
Let's see now...
No Jesus,
No Christmas,
No television,
No cheerleaders,
No baseball,
No football,
No basketball,
No hockey,
No golf,
No tailgate parties,
No Wal-Mart,
No Home Depot,
No pork BBQ,
No hot dogs,
No burgers,
No chocolate chip cookies,
No lobster,
No shellfish, or even frozen fish sticks,
No gumbo,
No jambalaya.

Rags for clothes and towels for hats. Constant wailing from the guy next-door because he's sick and there are no doctors. Constant wailing from the guy in the tower. More than one wife. You can't shave. Your wives can't shave. You can't shower to wash off the smell of donkey
cooked over burning camel dung. The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times. Your bride is picked by someone else. She smells just like your donkey. But your donkey has a better disposition. Then they tell you that when you die it all gets better!
I mean, really, is there a mystery here?

56 realwest  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 8:46:39am

#55 House - your post was extremly offensive. Really.

But funnier than sh, uh, you know what!!!

No football, no cheerleaders, no tailgaite parties, no BBQ, no hot dogs or burgers?

Bet they don't have any beer, neither!!!

WTF have they got to live for?!!

:>)

57 dla  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 9:07:50am

#55 House:

You listed "hotdogs" but not "dogs" : Muslems think* that dogs are 'unclean'-(which they usually are, but they mean it in a spiritual sense), so Muslems are forbidden to keep a sweet, softeyed playful beagle or dachshund or chihuahua or other example of love-on-paws to come home to.

*(oxymoron alert)

58 sefton  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 9:52:29am

I am sooo sick of these filthy murdering, devil worshiping, self rightious, stone age fucks telling us what G-d will do that I could tear my hair out.
Your blood cult of a religion has been taken over by Satan, you ignorant fu*k !
Islam is surrounded by death, murder , blood and hatred and your going to presume to tell me what is right and wrong?
Death, murder , blood and hatred don't sound like the calling cards of G-d to me. They are the calling cards of the DEVIL!!!
GO BANG YOUR HEAD ON THE GROUND SOME MORE ASSHOLE!!!

59 sefton  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 9:54:32am

-there, I feel better now-

60 Kevin Shook  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 10:03:22am

OT -

Israel uses 13 year old Palestinian as human shield

I was reading this stupid story and it hit me: The LLL and the Media have not respect for the Arabs and Islam and think that they are all animals. Why else would "activists" bemoan a Palestinian boy being used as a human shield and remain eerily quiet when the terrorist in Fallujah did the same? In fact, the LLL and the Media went as far as to blame that behavior on the US. It seems to me that their logic is that the Arabs are sub-standard, less than human, barbarian who can not be held to Western standards of basic human behavior and do not deserve any kind of freedom. It is this attitude on the LLL that has led to the mess in the Middle East and 9/11. Our troops are placing their lives on the line not because of Bush or the NeoCons, but because of the arrogant, elitist mindset of the LLL, the Media and the bureaucrats in the State Dept. Why the hell hasn't the 9/11 Commission called their butts to testify?

61 WriterMom  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 10:08:35am

#46 Geepers

Thank you! That was great. A little eye candy-
n i c e .

62 Paragon  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 10:22:06am

interesting

63 Rayra Johnson  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 10:41:10am
“Whoever kills an (Islamic) believer on purpose will be punished by being burned in hell, punished by God’s anger and will be cursed and suffer great pain,” he said.

...but if you kill some muslims unintenionally while blowing up some kufrs, well Okely Dokely, we'll call them 'martyrs'.

Foul murderous bastards.


#14 papijoe 4/22/2004 07:50AM PST
my knee has stopped smacking into the underside of my desk.

heh. knocked over my soda. I'll be doing that for days, now, thanks to my Compulsive Comedy Disorder™
Thankyouverymuch

64 Jollyman  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 10:47:30am

OT:

Our friends, the Pakistanis, think that Jihad is a favor they are doing for the West.

Money quote:

... West is being devoured by the Kufr (unbelief), and it is not a metaphysical claim, but a sociological assertion. In this context the Jihad (in all its spectra) is actually humanitarian aid, a rescue operation, for the main mission of Jihad is elimination of unbelief and spreading the firm foundation for moral norms.
65 zulubaby  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 11:02:12am

realwest (#35)

Whoa Charles - posting at, what, 4:30 AM left coast time?

I'm going to be pedantic which usually annoys me, but ...

posted by Charles at 7:37 AM PST
66 Rayra Johnson  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 11:18:08am

#65 zulubaby
heh. 'LGF - the site that fact-checks your time zone.'

67 zulubaby  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 11:19:14am

Rayra, for some reason that was bugging me. No idea why :-)

68 deadman  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 11:30:54am

sorry this is way off topic but

Fox News - Stocks soared Thursday as investors welcomed a slew of strong earnings reports, led by construction equipment maker Caterpillar (CAT)

Sadly I'm stuck in Southern Mississippi and can't attend the Rachel Corrie hatefest.

69 papertiger  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 11:31:18am

Terrorist bombers in Riyadh.

Folks the plan is workin.

Let them boil in their own juice.

Destabilising the only Family run business with a seat at the UN is progress in the war on terror.

70 pantat  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 11:35:14am

Maybe the terrorist (should we call them this in this particular instance) were stupid and took a wrong turn?

If you you kill the people on your side do you only get 36 virgins? Or maybe in Muslim hell you get all 72, but they have all been deflowered by...Milton Bearle (jewish, american, and, um, well you know).

*heh*

71 andagain  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 11:43:38am

Charles trying to scare up a mountain of controversy from another molehill, is he?

The original AP headline fit the original story just fine, Charles. There was no reason, repeat NO REASON, to accuse them of "whitewashing" ANYTHING.

Geez, of all the silly nonsense...imagine the reaction here if a Lefty tried to squeeze political points out of nothing as you're doing here...

Imagine said reaction, and let it be Charles' answer...

72 Kevin Shook  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 12:23:45pm

#71

imagine the reaction here if a Lefty tried to squeeze political points out of nothing

Don't all LLL do that?

73 ShiksaGrrrl  Thu, Apr 22, 2004 12:26:44pm

What did the Saudis do to the Terrorists?

All we ever hear is that the US has meddled in Arab country's for years, and therefore is responsible for all of the terrorist attacks against it.
As is Israel.


What exactly did Saudi Arabia do wrong?
What did Bali do wrong?

Etc, Etc, Etc...

( the deaths in SA are understandable simply because they allowed some American Infidels on their soil then further desecrated it by allowing Female Soldiers with the Saudi Kingdom?


Maybe one day there will be hope and the LLLs of this world will begin to understand that one needn't look at the country bombed and rationalize why an attack took place...but might actually begin to put the blame exactly where it does belong, on the terrorists themselves.
If the LLLs ever wake up to this simple reality...terrorists will no longer be able to manipulate their propaganda and will all be finished, one way or another!.

The LLLs are all so short sighted.
They worry about Palestine.
They call for them to have their own state, yet they worry about an Iraq becoming another fundamentalist country...never once realizing that in its current state at the very least, it too will become one more Islamic fundamentalist nation.

I cant imagine what it will take for the LLLs to wake up and realize all of their misplaced sympathy only prolongs the life span of terrorism, therefore being complicit in the deaths of thousands.

74 andagain  Fri, Apr 23, 2004 5:43:58am
Don't all LLL do that?

I'm sure you think so, Kevin. How about addressing the actual point of the post, instead of asking silly rhetorical questions?

75 Truth  Fri, Apr 23, 2004 11:06:31am

#9 in Saudis to Al Qaeda forum

know I'm supposed to feel bad when people are murdered in cold blood and all, but after these two little gems today, I don't feel a damned thing. If you willingly fund and support terrorist operations around the world, you get what you deserve.

I'm afraid by that logic we should not feel a damned thing for September 11 either.

Do you have any clue about how many terrorist operations around the world the U.S. has willingly funded and supported? Who trained Osama against the Soviets in the first place?

Oh, or is it not the same thing when it happens in your country, to your people?

76 Smit  Tue, Apr 27, 2004 3:22:54am

#75 Truth - Please explain how fighting communism by proxy caused 9/11.


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