Political correctness at its ugliest.

Sounds like a total Asshat. I think his son got his brains and balls from his mother's side of the family.

There is nothing so pathetic as someone who does not know who his enemy is. How blind is the hatred. And now we know that the difference between east and west is slight, for we have here a man who, if he would not actually sacrifice his son on the rock of his hatred, would aim his hate not at the ones who held the knife, but at the enemy of the knifemen.
Rationality is so easily lost.

GOOD LORD, THE DELUSIONS OF THIS MAN!

I am sure, knowing my son, that somewhere during their association with him these men became aware of what an extraordinary man my son was. I take comfort that when they did the awful thing they did, they weren't quite as in to it as they might have been. I am sure that they came to admire him.

What a fool!

Charles, maybe compassion is still not a bad idea. He's completely unhinged.

It's just sad. Very paleo of the guy to use his son, killed by Arab jihadis, against the west. It actually seems he actually prefers his son's killers to his president, because they did it up close and personal. Sick, sick, sick.

This is NOT a man unhinged.

This is pure, platinum EVIL.

I don't care how heartsick you are, grieving parents do not climb up on their dead kid's corpse and regurgitate this mindless, scummy, sick SHIT.

Evil, evil EVIL.

The Guardian's publication of this rant makes me ill. Yes, I do understand that the Guardian wants to publish as much anti-Bush material as possible, but to publish a rant by the grief-stricken father of a man who has just been decapitated on videotape seems beyond the pale of civilized behavior. The media should leave him alone so he can cope with his grief.

Yes, I read it this morning.

Amazing... a father's extremism so vituperative that its expression poisons his son's memory.

And he has the unmitigated nerve to call himself a father?

There is something about this situation that just does not add up. Has anyone seen or heard a word from the mother?

Daddy dearest is a sleazoid and a user. Charles is spot on re the despicable a.n.s.w.e.r connection. The sign from the movement that was ready, planted into the lawn, for the press when they interviewed the 'grieving' father? Who in hell could prepare something like that, after hearing that their son was so hideiously murdered?

This is almost like the child who murders his parents, and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan.

It's not just the media. You can be sure the ghouls of International ANSWER are also pressuring Berg to do things like this.

Michael Berg defecates on all the good his son tried to stand for.

This has been talked about on Michelle's (asmallvictory.net) and Jeff Jarvis's (Buzzmachine.com) blogs as well.

I said before this is sad and pathetic. So I'll repeat myself.

Poor Nick. Not only did he die in the most vile and violent way at the hands of bloodthirsty barbarians, but his own father has to shamelessly defile and insult his memory. Sickening.

How incredibly warped do you have to be to not only sympathize with the monsters who cut your son's head off, but actually believe they had affection for him before decapitating him?

For Mr. Berg's sake, I hope his son's death fried his brain...the alternative is just too disturbing for me.

Yes, #15. That is truly the most chilling part of the entire column.

This type of twisted empathy with savage murderers- of one's own CHILD!- is truly just evil and mindless.

I have absolutely no pity for him. Whatsoever.

Mr. Berg has just demonstrated the possibility of posthumous child abuse.

Charles,

I don't think he requires any pressure at all. He will do it willingly.

Odds on the 'grieving' father either being on every chat show, and then getting his own? How about a run for political office? I bet that he turns up on air America

Thank G-d he is a retired teacher. Would anyone want him teaching kids???

I think this is still too fresh a wound for the family. They are still whacked out to the max. The anguish they must feel. Perhaps in a years time if he is still spouting this stuff I may comment negatively. I also recognize that the media leftists are going to capitalize on this and use him. Perhaps when he realizes that they are using him as a prop to further their agenda he may come back to his senses. The anguish...

Hi, NY Nana!

Thanks for the e-mails. I have just been too busy to reply to everyone, but all has been appreciated.

Do you know if there is a "festive" thread tonight? You were the only "usual" suuspect I saw posting recently!

People like that, well, they shouldn't be allowed to breed.

But then, there would have been no Nick Berg.

The mind reels.

Anyone want to place bets this guy gets invited to the Democratic Convention? Perhaps as a speaker?

#22

I'd say odds are excellent

Jclenman #15

For Mr. Berg's sake, I hope his son's death fried his brain...the alternative is just too disturbing for me.

Could be, so we ought to cut Mr. Berg some slack. Supposedly that's the worst loss a person can face. And in the most horrid possible way.

But somehow I get the impression Mr. Berg's been making wacked-out-crack-smoking-Charles-Manson-Eating-Fro ot-Loops-on-your-Front-Porch statments like this for a long time. What amazes me about this statement is it totally sums up the dangerous yet wacky political correctness of the left.

Berg paints the terrorists as "noble savages" not quite responsible for their wittle-moral failings:

I am sure that these murderers, for just a brief moment, did not like what they were doing.

Then Berg blames ALL evil on the West:

George Bush never looked into my son’s eyes. . . . let alone that of the Iraqi people his policies are killing daily.

Islamic terrorists play upon westerners' overblown sense of guilt. Berg is an example extraordinare of this.

Fuck that fucking bitch. I defended that cocksucker too. FUCK!

@12 Nekama Johnson

Hey, have you talked to realwest lately? None of us here has had any contact with him since last Saturday.

Well, folks, I'm sure Marvin Gaye's dad also meant well.

/sarc

OK. It's Friday night and after a few Red Dogs I'm gonna let all you non-Jews in on a little secret. A secret that you have already half way figgered out anyway. Many Jews have a crazy streak. We have a lot of Nobel Prize winners, a lot of geniuses, lot of top chess players, but the flip side of the coin is we have a lot of crazies. Such as Nick's dear old dad, a retired teacher.

My warning to Islam is that Jews can play the ultimate crazy role if you push us into a corner. Jews can out do your crazy Jihadis. Some crazy ass "rogue" IAF pilot will deliver a nuclear smack down on Mecca and wipe that dumb ass smile (one billion strong and growing) off your mugs. Permanently. Forever. You will crumble and be dispersed, holding your heads in shame. Forever 'till the end of time. Mohammed's legacy to y'all.

I agree with Charles...I was willing to cut this guy all the slack in the world consider, BUT, he has gone too far...by sucking up and kissing his sons killers butts,he is no better than they are...

#28 matamoros

Wow, what the hell is in those Red Dogs?

#28, by all means, PLEASE proceed.

Sincerely,

Good Protestant Girl

I read the whole thing. It's disgraceful. It's also an insult to Nick, who supported this war because he was a good man who cared about freedom.

#24

"we ought to cut Mr. Berg some slack. Supposedly that's the worst loss a person can face. And in the most horrid possible way."

Agreed. I'd like nothing more than to cut Mr. Berg all the slack in the world. He must be beside himself. As you mention though, chances are these thoughts of his are nothing new.

His self delusion is simply breathtaking, heartbreaking, and disgusting.

Is it possible that a man can hate another man so much (Bush) that he'd rather side with savages?

The Psychologists are going to have to look into a new mental illness...let's call it "George W. Bush Hatred Syndrome". From I can tell so far the symptoms include...

1. Irrantional and misdirected hostility

2. Extreme Self-Delusion

3. A need to blame all ills of the world on one person (preferably the President of the USA or Prime Minister of Israel, or both)

4. A compulsion to sympathize and/or befriend those who express a desire to harm you and those you care about.

...I'm sure I missed a few...maybe others can fill in the blanks for me.

I just don't understand how a father can hate a man more than he loves his own son.

This is like the ravings of many of the 9-11 families, only magnified.

#24 This is so true :

Islamic terrorists play upon westerners' overblown sense of guilt.

The islamists also seem to have perfected their exploitation of most westerners' thought patterns and processes and realize more and more how it fits the definition of what dhimmis are according to their warped sacred texts. They know how westerners are reviled and repulsed by pure horror, and they are using pure horror in the hope to demoralize and conquer.

So George Bush should cut some Arab's throat so he could get to know how human he is, then he will be as good as the scum who killed Nick. This man is on his way to the loony bin!

#33  Jclenman
Agreed. I'd say it's some kind of variation on Stockholm Syndrome

#35  Frank_Mtl
We are winning militarily. The terrorists are kicking our ass in terms of Psy-Ops.

Of course, the terrorists couldn't do it without a big helping hand from their buddies, the American media.

present company excluded of course ;-)

#35 Frank_Mtl
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It's Islamic generated Stockholm Syndrome. Their "call to prayer" in Hamtramck is designed to have the same effect. Brainwashing bit by bit over time. A wearing down. A grinding down.

NONE of you holier-than-thous have walked in this man's shoes.

"This is like the ravings of many of the 9-11 families, only magnified."

Shame on all of you who have no compassion for the grieving, those who have lost loved ones due to the errors of the politicians!

So what were we to do when we in America were attacked on September 11, that infamous day? I say we should have done then what we never did before: stop speaking to the people we labelled our enemies and start listening to them. Stop giving preconditions to our peaceful coexistence on this small planet, and start honouring and respecting every human's need to live free and autonomously, to truly respect the sovereignty of every state. To stop making up rules by which others must live and then separate rules for ourselves.

Even More contemptible than Charles's quote!

#39 Lilith

Was that sarcasm? If it was, it was exquisite!

#39 Lilith

There is plenty of compassion.

But there is little patience for anyone who would blame anyone but terrorists for terrorist atrocities.

39 Lilith
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Fuck off. I'm waiting for such people to irrationally lash out at those who actually deserve it. In this case the Islamic scum who hack sawed Nick's head. Until then, FOAD.

#38 dennisw-matamoros

Speaking of grinding down, I'm tired of grinding my teeth in sheer frustration over the sleep engaged we have in this country.

#39, I don't have to walk in anyone's shoes to know that, had this happened to my son, I would need drugs and physical assistance to get my ass out of my bed in the morning. Period.

Much less zooming around on my bike whilst casually throwing out disgusting lies and wallowing in my pathetic, sick regard for the very savages who fucking cut his FUCKING HEAD OFF WHILE HE SCREAMED.

Nor would I have the fortitude or hate-fueled energy level to pen treasonous, poisonous, psychotic columns for a foreign newspaper.

Period.

These are not the actions of a man who loved his son.

In fact, I will venture to say that this man's son meant a great deal less to him than his politics do.

And I find that both sad and revolting.

#39

I think most of us have plenty of compassion for a man whose son was decapitated because he was a Jew and an American. However, we do not have compassion for a man who hates George Bush more than he loves his own son. We do not have compassion for a man who believes that the people who cut his son's head off were touched and impressed with Nick's personal talents. Nick Berg was not killed because of George Bush. To think so and state as much is perfectly in line with the aforementioned syndrome.

Sleep?

"Fairness? Decency? You expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people?" ... Gurdjieff

For many people, their attachments to their political beliefs are deeply psychological.

Look, guys, the father is not unhinged.

Nick Berg supported Bush and supported the war in Iraq -- so much that he was willing to go there. There is obviously a good deal of anger at his son for doing what he did. My opinion is that they were not on great terms about his going.

Of course, I have no idea, but that is my suspicion.

@39 Lilith

GAK !

Sorry but we've already had our limit of mothballs for this session.

This man has lost his son. Cut the man some slack.

If I was in his position, I'd probably be irrational also.

My comment is not meant to be nasty, or to trivialize Mr Berg's loss of his son. I am truly sorry for his loss.

No.

I refrained from comment for days.

No longer.

I have no more sympathy, and I won't be refraining from calling this man out on his hatred any longer.

Thanks anyway.

So essentially what he's trying to say is that Pres. Bush is evil because he isn't a psychopathic killer who knows what it's like to personally cut off an innocent man's head?

Jclenman,

'Round these parts we call it Bush Derangement Syndrome or BDS. We've seen lots of it.

#51 Jerkpork,

Cut the man some slack.

Cut
Cut
Cut
Cut
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the man some slack.

#54

Ah...I had a feeling it already had an official name. Thanks!

Mr. Berg,

Your son was not in the military. He was not working for the U.S. government. No one forced him to go to Iraq. He went on his own volition. The people responsible for his murder were the killers in the video, not George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld.

#55,

Thanks for the great reply to my comment.

Fuck You, very much.

Michael Berg disagreed with his son about Iraq when he was alive. He has taken a dump on his son's memory, which makes the elder Berg is a contemptible coward. Nick may have been motivated to tempt fate all the more due to having such a sh*tsack for a father.

Jeezus christ. What a pathetic loon. The sad part is he actually believes this.

Maybe he needs to go meet up with the men who "came to admire" his son so much they sawed his head off while he was still alive.

These clowns live on another planet. (With apologies to planets everywhere.)

I agree with Michael Berg. He's a brave man and has my deepest sympathies.

#33 Jclenman says:

I just don't understand how a father can hate a man more than he loves his own son.

My God - Daddy Berg is a Palestinian!

Lilith, don't you have a Fair to go to or something?

#39   Lilith

Shame on all of you...

No, shame on you for killing this poor man over and over through your insipid, enervate pusillanimity.

They were celebrating, dancing and yelling 'allah akbar' or whatever it is they say. They enjoyed what they were doing whether he wants to believe it or not. The man is deluded, and it's so very sad.

Zev Chafets on Michael and Nick Berg: Who was Nick Berg and why was he killed?

It was Michael Berg who told the world his son had been in Iraq supporting the war. Maybe. But there are some questions. The biggest is, how did 9/11 suspect Zacarias Moussaoui wind up with Berg's computer password back in 1999. It could be a coincidence. The chances are approximately 1 in 6 billion.

Early reports on Berg himself lengthen those odds even more. He traveled around the Middle East studying Arabic. He had a mysterious "relative" in Iraq. He was busted by the local police and found to be carrying a Koran and an anti-Zionist tract in his suitcase. He had a business that nobody knows much about.

It's too soon to know who the real Nick Berg was and why he was killed. He may have been a naive, luckless kid who stumbled into a trap. Or he may have been up to something a bit less innocent.

I guess that this is now the "drunken brawl" thread"? Logger, we're drinking over on the "Stop the presses" thread

fuck him--how many fathers of dead gi's have come out with anti-american hate bush rants--how many fathers would let their sons go unaccompanied and unarmed into a war zone--the whole family seems to be dysfunctional from the--"oh look at the towers" son--to the moonbat father--where's the mother--she's probably sad as fuck--and not getting on a soapbox--yeah the jihadis looked at him lovingly before slitting his throat--six million jews died because the imposed reparations of the treaty of versaille engendered the rise of hitler--ergo the villain of the holocaust is...woodrow wilson--this is the most articulated example of LLL guilt and self hating world view since fisk "understood" his thrashing--loss or no loss-mr. berg is a pathetic putz and a disgrace to his misguided son's memory

Again, I think it's high time that President Bush apologizes for the Declaration of Independence.

Isn't that the moment were everything started going wrong?

/sarcasm off

"It's too soon to know who the real Nick Berg was and why he was killed. He may have been a naive, luckless kid who stumbled into a trap. Or he may have been up to something a bit less innocent."

I made an early assessment that Nick Berg was more than naive and luckless but less than guilty of mischief. I think the truth is less surprising. I think he was probably as clueless of a moron as his father. He should not have been in Iraq because he did not uderstand the people he was dealing with.

PLEASE SOMEONE...Remind this SHIT HEAD of the travel restrictions that were in place when his kid left for the middle east!!!
Obviously,the boy wasn't raised with enough common sense to heed that warning!
Sadly, this moron's statements go to show just how low a democrat will stoop to try to make a senseless point!
I greive for this boy's mother.
As for his father...he deserves the private hell he now lives in!

'Night all.

"And I am sure that these murderers, for just a brief moment, did not like what they were doing."

But they did it anyway, didn't they Mr. Berg? I'm deeply sorry for the loss of your son and the obvious loss of your mind.

As for you Lilith and your "due to the errors of the politicians!" comment, pull the string again mon amie and see what tired line comes out of your maw next.

What the hell is wrong with these people! Does the whole world have Stockholm Syndrome?!

In hindsight, Nick Berg is lucky. The horrible death he suffered was nothing compared to the disgrace of living with such a stupid, cowardly, treasonous quisling eunuch for a father.

Well at least he didn't cozy up with an Iranian spy. Bush put our country in the hands of Chalabi, a back-stabbing madman.

Now we are all paying the price.

Thanks a lot!

#70 Lawrence Schmerel

I think you are exactly right. A navie young Jew roams Iraq, alone with no sense of danger, taught from childhood, that there is no evil in the world. Michael Berg would never admit his failings to his son. Now, he won't admit it to the world. I will make sure my grandchildren are better taught.

And what price are you paying simon?

tommoon, what price?

Well the Iraq fiasco is costing my country billions upon billions of dollars.

Our military is stretched thin.

We have abandoned Afghanistan.

We have created more enemies.

The price is being payed by all of us.

Thanks for cozying up with an Iranian spy/conman!

Bush and Chalabi's plan for peace is the peace of the common grave.

I'm sorry simon, I thought you were a human being, but you are only a troll. None of those arguments you just presented are valid. I don't feed trolls so good bye..

What, if any, is the connection of Nick Berg of Philadelphia, and Philip J Berg, Philadelphia lawyer who is suing the administration (see here) over 9-11? Moussaoui apparently links the two, at least by coincidence. Note that Moussaoui is a defendant in Philip Berg’s case and used Nick Berg’s email address at the University of Oklahoma according to FoxNews. Coincidence, or could something else be going on? I found this unexpectedly while searching for “berg moussaoui” on Google.

Also found on google that Philip J Berg is apparently a big Democrat activist.

I am not a conspiracy theorist by any stretch, but doesn’t this seem a little odd? Are these two Bergs related? If the answer is yes there are a number of other questions that one might ask.

#39 Lilith/Lili/Shame on You/Sahara-- nya nya nya! I outed you with Joe Katzman, and showed him your troll scroll! Now FOAD, or I'll tell Trent and Kirk where to find you!

/snoring in agony, lololol!

Come on, lay off the man.

He's obviously a tool for people who skillfully take advantage of the impossible grief he must feel.

#78
Well the Iraq fiasco is costing my country billions upon billions of dollars.

So is Social Security, the Department of Education, etc.
I don't call $81 bn "billions upon billions". Asshat.

Our military is stretched thin.

You can thank Billy Clinton for the cuts to the defence for that.

We have abandoned Afghanistan.

No we haven't.

We have created more enemies.

Good, that means more target practice for the Marines!

The price is being payed by all of us.

If blood be the price of freedom, then Lord, we hath paid in full!

Thanks for cozying up with an Iranian spy/conman!

Thanks for wanting to suck off Saddam's dick.

Bush and Chalabi's plan for peace is the peace of the common grave.

So was Saddam's...it worked surprisingly well.

Please go find your mother, sit on her face, and wriggle furiously.

cheshirecat

I have a simple rule in interpreting justice. Where a crime occurs, blame its perpetrator. Period. The trouble with left wing secular interpretations of justice is that they always blame the victim, not the perpetrator. Civilisation itself was the victim of this cold execution of a Jew and an American. Blame the bastards to whom life isn't worth a grain of oil soaked sand. The nazi muslims killed him. If the Yanks had never imprisoned a single arab in Bagdad, they would still have killed him. They are medieval mass murderers trying to impose their evil creed upon all of us. No amount of blood is too great for them to spill, even arab and muslim blood.

So blame the killers. Bush didn't kill him. Nazi islam did.

Either his hatred has driven hem completely insane, or he is a complete idiot. Either way, I can no longer cut him any slack at all. He deserves all the scorn his will get, and more.

#45 lazytart

Much less zooming around on my bike whilst casually throwing out disgusting lies and wallowing in my pathetic, sick regard for the very savages who fucking cut his FUCKING HEAD OFF WHILE HE SCREAMED.
[...]
These are not the actions of a man who loved his son.
In fact, I will venture to say that this man's son meant a great deal less to him than his politics do.

You are so right. This nonsense "he's grieving" argument is patently ridiculous. Set aside the Bush hatred for a moment. Based on his incredibly dismissive statements about Nick in the hands of his captors, praise for them, etc., I'll go one step further: Michael Berg didn't give a damn about his son. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to find out he encouraged his son's death-wish "adventure" trip in the hope that something bad might happen so he could spout his ANSWER commie crap.

Any parent who can associate the killers of their child with "good" is the absolute lowest form of life. Call it psychological cannibalism; they eat their young.

I have a slightly different take on it:

When a person is faced with something that runs counter to every belief he/she has, cognitive dissonance can wreak havoc with the thought process.

My theory here? Prior to the murder of his son, Mr. Berg's was a far-leftist who hated all war, believed it was necessary only to "understand" murderous terrorists to cause them to change their ways, and hated Bush with a passion. His son who, on the contrary, believed in Bush and wanted to rebuild Iraq, goes there, and is killed in one of the most horrible ways imaginable. The act is videotaped by his murderers so that the father--and the world--gets to watch. It is awful beyond imagining.

So, what does Mr. Berg do? To admit the obvious truth-- that the murderers are cold-blooded fanatics who would like to murder us all, if they could, and that no form of "understanding" could change this--would threaten his entire world view. Mr. Berg has already lost his son; he can't afford to lose his belief system. So he clings to it with all his might. Doing so leads him to state the following: that Bush must be at the root of his son's murder, since "understanding" the terrorists would have turned them into peaceloving moderates, but Bush has refused to do so, and instead started a war for his own nefarious purposes.

In addition, Mr. Berg's idea that the killers, on meeting Nick, would simply have had to have seen how wonderful his son was, and that this would have tempered their hatred, stems at least partly (in my opinion) from Mr. Berg's love for his son. He believes that his son was so wonderful and lovable that he could melt even these hearts of stone. It is unendurable to him to believe otherwise--that the killers slaughtered him with no more regard than they would an animal.

His pre-existing far-left fanaticism combined with the extremity of his grief has caused Mr. Berg to become truly unhinged. I fault the media for not having the decency to refuse to publish his ravings.

Globular Cluster:

Look, guys, the father is not unhinged.

Nick Berg supported Bush and supported the war in Iraq -- so much that he was willing to go there. There is obviously a good deal of anger at his son for doing what he did. My opinion is that they were not on great terms about his going.

Yes, I agree with you that this doesn't add up. Someone who is this consumed with anti-Bush, anti-war sentiment could not stand being around any but the most likeminded person. If Nick was pro-war can you imagine how angry and betrayed this warped animal Michael Berg must have been?

Alternatively, how do we know Nick Berg supported the war effort, etc.? Michael Berg is the only source for this claim. I wonder whether his claim is true.

Instead of looking into Nick Berg's eyes, Bush was looking into that girl's who lost her mother on 9/11.

He wants to make us safe.

From everything that I have read about Nick Berg, it was felt by most that knew him, that he was non-political. I can also see myself as a young 26 year old, never thinking that death would ever catch up to me and doing as Nick. I have gone into places that I should have never gone into. I have done things that I should never have done. I survived my youthful indiscretions, Nick did not his. Whatever his reason for being in Iraq, I do not think it was of a malicious content. No conspiracy, only a young man with incredible bad timing and bad luck. I do not judge the father, I only hope that he would start to grief and pray that he will shut up. He raised his son much better than he could have imagined.

Sometimes a parent really feel their child's pain. His son has lost his head and his father has internalized it.

They looked into his son's eyes and still cut off his head and he believes they must have felt his humanity.

And I am sure that these murderers, for just a brief moment, did not like what they were doing.

I'm dumbfounded.

In Nick Berg, International ANSWER now has a martyr in someone who no doubt detested them and everything they stand for. Not that it makes any difference to the Stalinist pricks.

Do y'all want to know why Michael Berg hasn't had a good cry with Katie Couric or Larry King yet? Because the asshole Leftists running Big Media know that he's a total propaganda tool and that, if they put him on, they'll wind up with the proof of their complicity spitting blood at the President on their sets.

A.N.S.W.E.R.'s got their hooks into this idiot and playing him for all he's worth. Let him marinate in their bile some more and then watch him go nationwide with one of the Bigs. Instant poison, but the smack's too good to let it go to waste. As soon as he opens his mouth, Comrade Couric won't be able to stop it.

You have to be a complete piece of shit to use your son's death like this man has. Disgusting!

Ordinarily, I wouldn’t hesitate to look askance, and perhaps even despise the visceral comments made by Michael Berg. However, after having viewed the incomprehensibly savage murder of his son, I cannot begrudge Mr. Berg for his comments, no matter how misguided they are.

I still can’t extricate Nick Berg’s screams from my head, even some two weeks after having heard them. I can’t imagine the horror and inconsolable sorrow with which his father, Michael Berg, viewed that video.

Perhaps I’m just a “jelly-leg” by nature, but Nick Berg’s family can have as many free passes on this issue as they need. After all, is there any rational way to come to terms with such an irrational and barbarous murder?

Godspeed to Nick Berg’s family.

After reading this I have a suspicion that Nick inherited enough of his father's naivete to get himself killed, that it wasn't a coincidence that Al Qa'eda got his password years ago...

His dad taught him to trust to the goodness of every piece of garbage walking the earth. Teach your children well.

Ari T

Michael Berg has no God, he is a communist, so you cannot wish him godspeed. His son was seeking God, we can only hope he found him. I do not give free passes to those who sacrifice their family members to political causes and wish to to the same to my loved ones.

#37 Cornholio

The wierdness is that I think WE are winning the liberals of the Arab world, and THEY are winning the so called spoiled idiot liberals of the west.

When this is done, the only real liberal will be oppressed Arabs, or maybe thats already the case.

#60 Barbara Skolaut

They came to admire his esophagus.

I just wanted to cry when I saw it this morning. This is total madness. He absolutely refuses to acknowledge, even to himself, the truth which is glaringly obvious to everybody else. Had it been World War II, he probably would have refused to believe in Nazi atrocities while being led to his death, because 'the Germans are civilized people'. I wish he'd internalized the fact that the murderers of his son would not think twice before slitting somebody's throat. I wish he really understood that these monsters are not his sons, and that he owes them nothing, but they, on the other hand, are guilty before his murdered son and before him too, and nothing can expiate their guilt.

No, I don't believe that Michael Berg is 'using' his son's death to advance some stupid cause. I believe that he is insane.

#99

Absolutely, well stated. But is he insane? Hundred of thousands of Jews in NY think just as he does ( Michael Berg ), are they also all insane. Something to ponder.

You are all missing the big point. Bush betrayed our country for an Iranian spy!

Stupid fucks on here will clown on me without actually refuting my points. So be it. I don't care, I've come to expect irrationality from the right wing.

But I want this to be known: I consider you the enemy.

There will be no quarter given, no compomise offered. Your ideology will be destroyed. It is happening as I write this.

simon

As a Vietnam vet, anytime any place. Let me know where you want to meet. If you come in here and threaten people. I can assure you we will respond. So put up or shut up.

Simon, I'm still waiting. Why no respond.

If you wish to destroy someones ideology, then you should learn what war is really all about. Do you think that the marines in Iraq are kicking ass because they are lucky. No, they train daily and they train hard. All US military fighting units train hard and they beleive in what they are doing. It is called discipline. Something you will never have.

I'm going to bed, if the brave simon leaves his address, I'll retreive it in the morning.

FOAD simon

#101 simon

We're not all right wingers fuckwit.

I have been reading the Koran lately and I discovered that Mohammad himself (PBUH) not only advocated torture but personnally directed it's use. In this case it was to discover the location of a hidden treasure, i.e., money. He also practiced murder, ethnic cleansing, rape, slavery, banditry, thievery, war, religious persecution, and racisim. Also, 'Heaven' is a reward for all Muslims, even if they are child rapers, murders, thieves, etc. 'Hell' is for non believers regardless of their moral purity. One more thing, Heaven contains not only 77 virgins, but 22 'smooth boys' for each male Muslim. Heaven is for pederasts and Allah is a pimp. Well, at least it is a "peacefull" religion.

I am sure that the one who wielded the knife felt Nick’s breath on his hand and knew that he had a real human being there. I am sure that the others looked into my son’s eyes and got at least a glimmer of what the rest of the world sees. And I am sure that these murderers, for just a brief moment, did not like what they were doing.

I am sure they then cut his head off. I am sure they would do the same to Michael Berg in a heartbeat, no hesitation. I am sure they want to repeat their horrific act against every infidel on the planet. And I am sure that anyone who doesn't know this is a fool...even if they didn't just bury their beheaded son.

see terror tracker site [Link: www.neildoyle.com...] or [Link: www.islamic-news.co.uk...] for info on new book.

#49 Globular:

Nick Berg supported Bush and supported the war in Iraq -- so much that he was willing to go there. There is obviously a good deal of anger at his son for doing what he did. My opinion is that they were not on great terms about his going.

Good point. That makes Mr. Berg's words all the more odious. A normal, balanced father would at least have the decency to say something like, "I don't agree with my son, but here's WHY he went to Iraq...here's what HE believed in..."

One gets the impression that Nick was disowned by his father. Nothing Nick Berg believed or stood for mattered.

And let's keep in mind something else that Michael Berg appears to be ignorant of. For all practical purposes, the same filth who decapitated Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg were prepared to do likewise to an NYT bureau chief James Bennet until they found out their captive's views are compatible with Michal Berg's jihad.

Simon,

Bring your own toe tag.

LGF has hit a new low. Well done

Bob what age do you think the "Virgin" Mary was when God impregnated her without her consent? The phrase 'jail bait' springs to mind.

Elle,

They looked into his son's eyes and still cut off his head and he believes they must have felt his humanity.

What gets me is that this...father...is willing to impute all the virtues of humaniy to his son's killers, but none to Bush.

Hell...Michael Berg's placing of a halo on Nick's killers is de facto vindication for all, no matter the crime or intent.

Simon (troll),

This right winger isn't impressed by your pathetic little threats.

I've said elsewhere, the MSM wouldn't have even covered Nicks murder save for the juicy anti-Bush invective his father so willingly spewed for the camera.

Charles is right. Folks have cut Berg's dad alot of slack. I was willing to cut him some slack too, but it seems every time the fool opens his pie hole, he vomits out the most disgustingly indulgent anti-American bile. I have cut Mike Berg infinitely more slack regarding sympathy for his tragedy than he (or anyone on the left for that matter) cut the President after the terrible events that befell America on 9/11/01.

I wonder if any LLLs would be so kind to warn the elder Berg that with his recent assclownery, he 'risks' 'squandering' any 'world sympathy' that may have existed for him due to Nicks being butchered.

While I feel sorrow for Mr. Berg's loss of his son, I on the other hand can't understand how anyone with any brains would go over there without protection.
As for Mr. Berg, wake up and smell the roses. Yes we have made mistakes in Iraq. Yes I feel President Bush has handled the situation wrong. ( If it were me I would pull out all of our troops and then drop the BIG on them real close to the Iranian & Jordan border, then only apologize once.) LOL This same action saved countless lives in WW2.
I will always support what our troops are doing over there. I will never degrade the leaders of this country. If I feel they are wrong I will elect someone else. ( Remember Clinton ?)
The people in the Muslim world do not value the life of a human being. They have demonstrated this time and time again through their actions or inactions.
Look how we are treating the misuse ( im not sure of the misuse yet )of the prisoners over there. I ask you this, Have we heard the other side of the story with reguards to the alleged abuse yet? I myself will wait for all the story before judging this.
Ok I'll quit rambling now! LOL

And I am sure that these murderers, for just a brief moment, did not like what they were doing.

What kind of delusions does this man have? The murderers probably felt climactic exhilaration at the moment of his death. Killing an American Jew is the dream of every Islamist fanatic.

We have to be most sympathetic for Mr. Berg, both for the loss of his son and the mental illness which he has.

Part of me suspects that this is a mixture of hating Bush in the first place, grief and people whispering in his ear when he is not totally with it, but another part of wonders how any father could write that.

When the Rapture comes a lot of you guys are staying behind. There's too much hate here. Let in a little light.

Amen
Rev D.P.

Re; Post #118

When the Rapture comes a lot of you guys are staying behind. There's too much hate here. Let in a little light.

Amen
Rev D.P.

Rev D.P. what do you propose the solution to the problem is ?

It is beyond me how anyone, 2.5 years after 9/11, can remain unaware of the goals of the islamists.

Only God can give you the answer you seek.

#121 Rev:

He has. After 2.5 years of study, some of which caused my heart to pound, I have learned that islam is of Satan.

Rev, I guess then the only thing left is The Crusades all over again. God willing.

Nick Berg was a self-hating jew islamist supporter. Read jtf.org. Nick thought by carrying anti-jewish literature and having a muslim uncle he could get away with anything in Iraq.

Personally I have my doubts about the story of a "wireless entrepreneur." This flake was being held for a reason. He probably came off like a jackass to US soldiers and that's why he was held.

It is not enough to take sides on the question of political slogans; it is also necessary to take sides on the question of an armed uprising. Those who are opposed to it, those who do not prepare for it, must be ruthlessly dismissed from the ranks of the supporters of the revolution, sent packing to its enemies, to the traitors or cowards; for the day is approaching when the force of events and the conditions of the struggle will compel us to distinguish between enemies and friends. It is not passivity that we should preach, not mere "waiting" until the troops "come over". No! We must proclaim from the house-tops the need for a bold offensive and armed attack, the necessity at such times of exterminating the persons in command of the enemy

From V.I. Lenin, “The Lessons of the Moscow Uprising” (1906) 

It really captures the present mood and pretty much sources Bush's famous "you're either with us or against us" pronouncement. Dubya is such a commie traitor sneaking his soviet ideas into this lovely capitalist utopia.

The Lord's message is in your hearts and he hears you loud and clear. With righteous belief we shall overcome these sinners and Christ haters. God bless you.

And you too REV.

Nick would have been proud of his dad's reaction. This man has understood who is the REAL terrorist. And the true responsible of the hate against americans is not the one that is holding the knife...

Charles, time to get up and take out the trash.

Any news on the kitty?

This man is PATHETIC.

#118 Rev Don Powers

When the Rapture comes a lot of you guys are staying behind. There's too much hate here. Let in a little light.

Yes. And those that that took the side of all that's evil in this life, or those that did nothing are going to hell. God will not look with pleasure on you "Rev" Powers when he come back with his "terrible swift sword"

To hate the enemy of God is to stand in his light.

Stupefying as they may appear, no one here should be surprised by Mr. Berg's ravings. He is merely being true to the creed of the L³: Politics Trump All. His statements are not a product of his grief. Michael Berg lost his mind long before he lost his son.

#124 Charles Martel

Personally I have my doubts about the story of a "wireless entrepreneur." This flake was being held for a reason. He probably came off like a jackass to US soldiers and that's why he was held.

I agree. I work in that business and we are hiring tower crews to go to Iraq right now. We hire them here, not in Iraq. Also, you don't put up towers with your bare hands. You need power winchs, gin poles and things you can't carry in your checked bags. Something is not right about this story.

Good Morning

Well, this thread brought out the freaks. Good Lord.

I agree with #87 blogaddict. I posted something similar yesterday, but he/she said it better. His father, like the Corries and the "Peaceful Tomorrow" people screaming at Giuliani (as if he could enacted a magical force field around the city) really can not bare to know who the enemy is and always was. I suspect they have never read "Milestones." They just want to desperately cling to a failed ideology and belief system and direct their anger to anyone but the true enemy to civilization.

We all know that if the victim was anyone other than Nick Berg, Michael, A.N.S.W.E.R. and Co. would claim he deserved it.

Up until now, I had a great deal of sympathy with Mr. Berg. After reading his latest, however, I really have to agree with NY Nana, #10: something is just not right here!

And his strange exultation of his son's murderers, his loving description of it, re-writing it into a little magical play, where the murderers look into Nick's eyes, and feel his breath on their hands (sounds almost like a romance novel) and, for a moment, they must not have liked what they were doing (as if that could excuse what they actually did).

This is. . . strange---and that's putting it real kindly.

I can only hope that the man is insane. Because the other explanation, as Lazytart suggested in #7, that he's stone-evil, is horrifying!

#125 Leprachaun Boy

No, no, no, you've got it all wrong! Bush is Bushitler, the evil Crusader/facist/Christian Fundamentalist/oil magnate, not a communist! Just go back to Indymedia---please! They'll "enlighten" you.

Now go eat a nice bowl of Lucky Charms.

Engineer and Charles Martel . . .

I agree. I work in that business and we are hiring tower crews to go to Iraq right now. We hire them here, not in Iraq. Also, you don't put up towers with your bare hands. You need power winchs, gin poles and things you can't carry in your checked bags. Something is not right about this story.

I also agree. Knowing nothing about putting up cell towers, still the story seemed very odd. Wandering around Iraq--a desert country with a war going on--doing odd jobs???

#124 Charles Martel
___

jtf.com is the best! It's way over the top but has a lot of truth there

You don't expect Michael Berg to throw away his entire wordview just because some Arabs cut off his son's head, do you?

In his mind, it's always going to be: straight, white, Judaeo-Christian American males are war criminals; everyone else is just reacting to oppression.

We can't let these people determine any part of our future.

#TalkinKamel

Leprachaun Boy?

I'm afraid Leprachaun's don't really exist unless of course you're an American tourist and you've been brought on an expensive historical tour of the magical Leprachaun Kingdom.

As for Lucky Charms, I suspect you're using a parochialism. I can say with all certainty that I have never eaten that fattening, sugar filled GM starch in my life.

Hey, Simon-

How TOLERANT of you to declare me the enemy because I don't agree with you.

How very typical. You can try to label people here and put them in your neat little boxes if you wish, but you know NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF US.

I think the days of putting people in little boxes "leftwing" or "rightwing" is over for the most part.

It's basically those who get it, and the rest.

You are part of the rest.

But you're right about the war within. It's raging. Thank God your side is so easy to defeat- you're unarmed.

Indulging in armchair psychology here --I would say Mr. Berg is doing a lot of faulting and blaming --scapegoating for his own guilt.

Father and son DID disagree and that certainly had to have some strain on their relationship when the father was actively involved opposing it and the son was actively involved supporting it.

They did not just "rhetorically" disagree in views, they each took actions which opposed each other.

The father's anger is excessive --beyond what the other family members are showing.

They're always after me lucky charms!

I can say with all certainty that I have never eaten that fattening, sugar filled GM starch in my life.

Lucky Charms are genetically modified?! Who knew General Mills was so scientifically progressive.

"Frosted Lucky Charms, they're magically delicious!®"

139---Leprachaun Boy

"I'm afraid Leprachaun's don't really exist unless of course you're an American tourist and you've been brought on an expensive historical tour of the magical Leprachaun Kingdom."

Don't need any tour, expensive or otherwise! The pixie dust in his posts convinces me beyond a doubt---I DO BELIEVE IN LEPRACHAUNS! I DO, I DO!

A grieving jackass is still a jackass.

911 Berg:
I am sure, knowing the stewardesses and pilots, that somewhere during their association with them those men became aware of what an extraordinary people they were. I take comfort that when they did the awful thing they did, slicing their necks, they weren’t quite as in to it as they might have been. I am sure that they came to admire them, before they crashed the planes into the buildings.
/911 Berg

Remember when Fisk was mugged by Afghan youths and then said he'd mug himself too? When we shred leftie asinine statments we call it fisking now.

The next time I see a something like this, I'm going to call it "berging:" tolerance and compassion and understanding for evil like HACKING YOUR SON'S HEAD OFF WITH A DULL AND RUSTY KNIFE, but dripping with contempt and sanctimony towards political opponents.

I believe that this man is possessed. By the devil himself. What kind of a parent says that sort of think about the savage murder of his son? It is more than insanity, it is malicious evil. But my favourite part:

I am sure that they came to admire him.

Yes... the look of admiration and love as they decapitated him was astounding.

God pity him, because I don't.

Promethea wouldn't you prefer to be Epimethea?

When Michael Berg hampered the war effort of one side, he automatically helped that of the other. That 'other' beheaded his son in the most gruesome way and now poor Michael has to overcome his overwhelming guilt by blaming someone else--is Michael a muslim? He sure acts like one--always appointing blame to someone else?

Iraq still has some kind of sovereignty,doesn't it? I don't know how the nuts and bolts of a country work but I 've seen Iraqi passports, new ones. They have aqua covers. The papers seem interim and are more like travel papers than real passports.So I think there is some kind of functioning departements that are not directly Co-alition Provisionals. My point is that if Nick was looking for work and/or power tower work and if these towers were owned by the Iraqi govt, he could face loss of U.S citizenship. In U.S. passports, the boilerplate says that accepting work from foreign govts are one of the bases for losing your U>S. citizenship.
Perhaps that was why he was checked up on by the U.S. authorities.

Simon

I'd offer to tear what might be left of your f**king brain out through your rectum,

but obviously someone beat me to that long ago

so I'll settle for your throat

Name the time and place, scumbag

Make your arrangements in advance

Keep eating those Charms and you'll grow up to be the big fat boy you deserve to be. Well, chances are you're probably there already. But keep eating anyway.

Bon appetite

The difference between two parents. In the following article by Naomi Regan, she describes her visit with the motherr of one of the five soldiers whos bodies were mutulated in Gaza.
Here you have a parent who was proud of her child, believed that what he was doing was good and right. Her only request is that we support Israel, in that way honor her son.
I pity Michael Berg, part of me has great contempt for him, the horrible death of his child, has brought out the worst in him. Another set of parents he could look to are the Pearls, they have set up a foundation to dialog and try to promote peace among people. I personally think it is somewhat lefty wishy washy stuff. but they are so dignified in how they ahve gone about it, more power to them
[Link: www.naomiragen.com...]

RECON I reckon Simon would hit you so hard the banshees would come callin.

Leah you say feel pity and contempt. That's nearly all that's required to become a well rounded LGFer. Well done. Your parents must be so proud.

#153

Oh, you know them both, then?

Just go away, loser. I'm sure there's a peace march or sit-in somewhere that needs your support.

#87 Blogaddict

That was thoughtful, compassionate, and made so much sense. I wish I could've put it so succinctly. I can't add to it. There can be no other explanation.

Fenian Boy--don't you have a koran to read , a head to bang, or a rag to wash? Have you made plans to blow yourself up yet? Got a vest to build? Don't forget to put in the nails. You do seem like a well rounded terrorist, so I'm just wondering. Get busy, boy--you wouldn't want to piss off mohammed.

Goesto11, why would I want to leave and miss out on your sublime wit?

I wasn't trying to be witty, freak. It was a sincere suggestion. You've made it clear that you have nothing worth reading to contribute here.

Kat if you had bothered to read the thread you would know by now that I am not from the Middle East. As TalkinKamel discovered with his excellent Googling skills I'm from Europe or as Dubya says "Yurp".

I'm from Ireland. If you don't believe me I could arrange for you to sit on my knee and play with my leprachaun beard (then again you'd probably think you were about to get some Taliban lovin).

By the way I hear the smart money's on Lyntee England's baby being born with a moustache. Gosh she is just sooo cosmopolitan.

Goesto11, you don't need to try lad, you don't need to try.

I'm from Ireland.

Probably a friend of that sly view from Ireland.

"Keep eating those Charms and you'll grow up to be the big fat boy you deserve to be. Well, chances are you're probably there already. But keep eating anyway"

And keep taking whatever it is you're on, and you'll be in Pixie Land before you know it! (I think you're already there.)

/I never said you were from Europe, Bucko, I said you're a leprachaun, though I'm now beginning to think you're actually a troll. Therefore, to all good Lizardoids, I say, GAZE! I'm going to stop feeding it any "Lucky Charms."

Your kind have infiltrated all countries. If I sat on your lap, I'd have to make fun of your little cocktail thingy, so don't temp me.

[sniff]

Thought I smelled Eurotrash.

Moving on...

Talkinkamel I creditied you with investigative skills that you clearly never had — though you remain the world's leading an only expert on non-european leprechauns. You're an inspiration to every McWorker here.

Now Kat you're never going to get yourself a husband with that kind of talk.

The father says that Nick was pro-Bush. Perhaps Nick’s father hated his son before the beheading. Maybe the father believed his son was ‘dead’ already like other dishonored parents. If the father is so anti-Bush it wouldn’t surprise me that he had disowned Nick. No proof, just my 2 cents.

LM your 2 cents is worth just that, 2 cents.

I'd like to nominate Fenian Boy as the lamest troll ever to disgrace the pages of LGF.

170 Geepers:

I second that. Like Gordon, only talkier.

#169 Fenian Blob: An insult from you is praise to my ears.

I don't see Fenian Boy around. Maybe when he put that bomb on the short school bus, he forgot that he would be riding in it...

Andthenblammo. Wrong again. Will you Americans ever learn?

Geepers, disgracing the LGF that's some achievement. You guys must be used to disgrace by now surely.

Fenian Boy. You make me ashamed of my Irish heritage. So during the Troubles who did you support?Like Mihail Berg, you are too wedded to your ideology to realize that your current ally, militant Islam, will slit your throat once your usefullness is done.

As for you Simon. Go ahead and try. To borrow from the Bible here is how I guess you will attack, 'you will come like a thief in the night' and you know what, you will die in the dark.

Now I'm off to go boozing with some hippie chicks. Some lucky lady is going to wake up tomorrow morning with a sore arse and a funny taste in her mouth.

Toicaigh ar la

Just one last thing. Your claim to an Irish heritage is a politically correct way of saying "I'm not black".

I'd like to nominate Fenain Boy as the lamest troll to invade any blog. He's such a pathetic agitator, that he's making me laugh.

What is the media doing publishing the remarks of an anguished father? We may be having hundreds of apologies and numerous regrets from Michael Berg once the grief subsides. Let's not cause this man any more pain and withold judgement if/when he speaks at a later date.

Fenian Boy, now I understand why you like Islam so much. To compensate for your lack of skills with the other gender. So you side with Islam so you can have your harem of veield submissive, barefoot women once they conquer your land. FOAD

I'm not sure screwing camels isn't against the law, Fenie. However, read Ayatollah on the proper procedures.
A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.

Ayatollah Khomeini
(Quotes above are from Khomeini's book, Tahrirolvasyleh, vol. 4, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990, Source: Homa)

If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned.

Ayatollah Khomeini

(From The Little Green Book: Sayings of Ayatollah Khomeini, Political, Phylosophica, Social and Religious, with a special introduction by Clive Irving, ISBN number0-553-14032-9, page 47 Source: Homa)

Eleven things are impure: urine, excrement, sperm...non-Moslem men and women...and the sweat of an excrement-eating camel.

Ayatollah Khomeini

What a piece of work. I think that #87 blogaddict is probably right but that doen't change the fact that if Michael Berg was in a room with his son's murderers, he would likely try to give them a hug and express his sorrow at what Bush and America's imperialist agenda forced these good, desperate men to do to his son.

Nick Berg, by all accounts, was no moonbat. The fact that his father appropriated the fact of his murder for a cause and ideology that Nick did not support is shameful, as is the calculated exploitation of this atrocity by the ANSWER crowd.

Here's my question. When is the Berg/Corrie tour coming to my town, because I need to be somewhere else when that happens.

Behold

Fenian Boy = effimate VFI

Minions do I have to call up steve miller? :)

Or the iron heel of Iron Fist?

I still refuse to watch the video and now bordering on going back on my word, but this just popped up in regards to the video and has a bearing on my earlier questions.

Asia Times Forensic Experts Raise quesations about the Berg video

Comments please?

As Dennis Prager says: those who would defend evil will attack the good.

#184 Anna

Comments please?

Nick Berg's headless body was recovered.

Let it go.

Anna, what exactly is it you want? Much has been said on LGF re the Berg video and queries regarding its authenticity. Some here have even responded to you directly. Why don't you watch the video and make up your own mind? Believe as you see fit and be done with it. BTW have you noticed that AQ isn't denying it happened nor are Berg's parents?

What is occuring in this country is a battle of ideas, of values. Funny how several here got their dander up and want to try and kick my ass. Well, you don't know me, but trust me, you couldn't. But it's beside the point.

Your ideology is destroying itself. It's like a snake that eats its own tail only to find its own body unnourishing. Bush sold our country down the river for an Iranian spy. That is a stain you will never be rid of. There is blood on your hands.

The party is over, fucktards! The wargasm is finished.

#80 A noble vision

Great post! Worth everyone scrolling back, and reading it.

Here is the latest on the 'grieving' father:

Berg father backs anti-war stance

BTW, the mayor of London, 'Red Ken" Livingstone, is both a LLL, and hates the US and Israel, and is a schmuck.

The full speech is not yet available.

OT, but a fellow camper with Berg Père:

Moore Wins Top Cannes Prize

quark2 (#183),

Behold

Fenian Boy = effimate VFI

LMAO! Perfect.

Simon,

This party is FAR from over.

I'll wager it will be another 75 years at least before it winds down.

And if your children or grandchildren are around to talk about it, you'll have people who GOT IT to thank for that fact.

Fuckwit.

Simon--all it does it prove that one should not trust a muslim--after all the Koran does condone lying. So the guy just followed his cult. Are you surprised? I'm not.
Muhammad treated truth and deception according his own style of situational ethics. Muhammad condoned, and actually permitted, lying to further his goals--just like Chalabi. It is allowed in that ROP terror guide--. (Sahih al-Bukhari 5.369)

simon says:

What is occuring [sic] in this country is a battle of ideas, of values.

Close. It is a battle of ideas and values, but on a world scale. Islam against the rest of us. It’s pretty simple to figure out. Unless you’re too dense to understand what the muslim clutching a Koran and an AK shouting “We will drag you down by your beards” is trying to tell you.

Funny how several here got their dander up and want to try and kick my ass. Well, you don't know me, but trust me, you couldn't.

Yeah, that’s just brilliant. And you don’t know me, so just exactly what do you base your omnipotence on? Fairy dust?

But it's beside the point.

Then why did you bring it up?

Your ideology is destroying itself. It's like a snake that eats its own tail only to find its own body unnourishing [sic].

You don’t know what this means, but for everyone else, ^^Textbook example of ‘projection’ here.^^

Bush sold our country down the river for an Iranian spy. That is a stain you will never be rid of.

Oh, the dire predictions of a desperate debater.

There is blood on your hands.

NO, there is blood on your hands!

The party is over, fucktards! The wargasm is finished.

Is that the best you can do? Really. If your ‘ideological’ debate revolvers around calling people “fucktards” and debating the length of our “wargasm”s you’d probably be better off leaving the arguments to others and go back to dreaming about a reach around from Fenian Boy, although it might leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Geepers, you're the one reading homoeroticism into this, not me. A homo-obsessed winger like yourself can find a homo theme in any argument. It never fails to amaze me. Of course you are a desperately repressed individual, I suppose it is to be expected.

It is nothing but a way to avoid the issue. Bush has played right into Osama's hands. In fact, you could say he was tricked into it by a member of the axis of evil. What a dipshit. And you clapped your hands and cheered it on like a good monkey.

We had an opening in Afghanistan to get things right, and Bush fucked it up big time.

You think every Muslim is your mortal enemy. The way this battle witll play out is simple: the right wing violence memes in both societies will end up destroyed. The people will rise up and you will be flushed down the toilet of history.

History will remeber your types. History is going to spit all over your memory.

OOOHHHhhh,

Look out, folks! "The PEOPLE" are going to "rise up".

Oy vey.

The people rise up and shrug off fascism in all its forms eventually.

It's going to particularly fun watching it happen to you.

simon says:

It's going to [be] particularly fun watching it happen to you.

Watching? But simon, aren't you one of the 'people'? Aren't you going to "rise up"?

History will remeber [sic] your types. History is going to spit all over your memory.

Yeah, well, probably not. But you are probably good at spitting on graves.
Go for it.

Simon--I think this article describes you and other like idiots. Enjoy.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

[simple] simon

Please go play in traffic or, better yet, masturbate for peace. I would welcome your hands being busy, I won't go so far as to say full, so you can't type your tired tripe. Blah, blah, blah. Like Lilith, you should pull the string again and see what other worn line comes out. If you're going to make a pest of yourself at least have the decency to be entertaining.

#189 NY Nana

Good find there.
From the article you linked:

One of the march's organisers Chris Nineham told the BBC: "He [Mr Berg] feels that what needs to come out of the horrific death of his son is that a message has to be sent to Bush and Blair to say that the barbarity of war has to stop.

"That's his response to the terrible events that have happened to his son.

He continued: "I think the fact that someone has responded so thoughtfully to the death of their son is a message to the people of America and elsewhere to say that we understand that violence breeds violence. [Italics mine]

No, I would say the fact that someone (Michael Berg) responded the way he did shows an absolute lack of the instinct for survival. In my book, that not only is self-destructive, it's evil.

Grieving certainly gets a significant of license from us for oddball behavior. But this Michael Berg thing is utterly revolting. Keep an eye on this guy. We haven't seen the last of him.

I read this article and immediatley saw that Nics' father is in deep denial...it is a way of dealing with his sons death...but...he does have a beef with the detainees of his son who let him go, instead of escorting out of Iraq, and left his son to the merciless hands of those bastards! Oh, and the detainees were the american military..a blunder that cost Nicholas berg his life. Actually, now that I have read it again, I find that he has to blame anyone for his sons death..I believe his son would be angry that his father is saying the things he's saying...but one question remains...why wasn't his company registered with the State of Pennsylvania? If he was thought of as a spy by anyone, wrong. No operative would be so stupid! That one glitch is probably what cost him his life..they saw it as him being on the government payroll and murdered him. I know there's more to this than meets the eye: I WILL BE POSTING THE LINK TO THE FULL TAPE AS SOON AS IT IS CLEARED...and it's a lot longer than 1:01 minutes, as is the one seen onine. The CONTRACTOR FILM FOOTAGE IN COMPLETION will be forthcoming also. HAVE A STRONG STOMACH, please. THE FATHER NEEDS TO BE LEFT ALONE..TO DEAL WITH HIS GRIEF. NOT GIVING INTERVIEWS WHILE HE IS LIVING ON DE-NILE. As far as "them looking in his eyes goes..they never do..nor did they have any admiration for his life. He would be alive if they had.
DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS SEE EITHER ONE OF THESE FILMS. AS MANY DEATHS AS I'VE SEEN THEY STILL MADE ME SICK!!

Simon redux:

WAHH WAHH...RIGHT WINGERS ARE MEANIES.

Do yourself a favour Simon. Pull your head out of your twat, since you're obviously suffering from oxygen deprivation.

Gabba Gabba Hey (#199),

LMAO. Ya done your author proud! One line better than the next. Rock on!

Berg's Dad Dishonors His Son

The best way to understand Michael Berg's comments is to put them into proper context.

The Cult of Self-Esteem claims another victim.

#203 Geepers

"Thenk ya. Thenk ya very mush." I wasn't going to feed the troll, but his blathering and asinine comments were getting to be a drag. My favorite was the one about several LGFers wanting to kick his ass but, trust him, they couldn't. I was really expecting his next statement to be "my dad is bigger than your dads."

#200 A Noble Vision

Sorry I missed your post...you are spot on. As a mother of 3 sons, a daughter, 2 granddaughters, and mother in law of 2 wonderful daughters in law and son in law, and as a retired RN, he gives me the creeps. As a Jew, he offends me.

No, I would say the fact that someone (Michael Berg) responded the way he did shows an absolute lack of the instinct for survival. In my book, that not only is self-destructive, it's evil.

Grieving certainly gets a significant of license from us for oddball behavior. But this Michael Berg thing is utterly revolting. Keep an eye on this guy. We haven't seen the last of him.

Revolting hardly describes it...no one who is a parent or who understands parenting could ever behave in such a manner. He somehow reminds meJohn Walsh, who at least has done some good, and did mourn his murdered child appropriately, and also of JonBenet Ramsey's father...

Berg senior is an LLL bastard. His crocodile tears do not impress. Coming soon to a TV/radical A.N.S.W.E.R rally/bookstore near you...

G'nite!

HI,

I am Iranian girl in Canada. I find your site throught activistchat.com a long time ago. I think there is more to this story that most people know. Iranian exile media (anti-regime) have some sources that most Western journalists never mention. I don't know how true this is but someone should definately inveastigate this. Here are some things that I hear from some Iranian Satellite Stations:

1) When Nick Berg was detained by Iraqi police he was carrying a copy of the Quran and anti-
Jewish literature. That why they arrest him. But when they found out he was jewish and an American, they think he is a spy and give him to the Americans. Americans wanted him to go home and told him it's dangerous but he refuses to leave Iraq.

2) There is a lot of talk that he knew the people who captured and killed him and even was friends with some of them.

3) I also read somewhere (I think it was Yahoo World News) that he was questioned in connection with that man named Zacarias Mussouai (spelling?) because Nick Berg's college computer password was found on Mussouai but the CIA didn't have enough to make a
connection between the two men and dismissed it as a simple coincidence.

I don't know how much of this is true, but everything is very strange about this whole story. I know that some unknown Iranian exile media broadcasting from Los Angeles are not recognized internationally but I trust them to report the truth more than other sources because they don't care about political correctness and they have lots of good sources. Also maybe American media are under pressure to hold the truth because they don't want to give out too many of CIA secrets by publishing the details. Maybe they want to keep it a secret to help them in investigation or something. Or maybe it's just political correcness. I don't know. But I think there is definately more to this story than a "grieving parent's misplaced anger" as some of you say. Someone should investigate.

Anyway, maybe I come back to visit your site again? Why don't you report more on iran? I didn't even see the activistchat.com link on your site. That is not good.

Hi, maryam-- please come back sometime.

OT. Aryan Nations is evidently auditioning for a role as a Saudi financed charity: AS FAMILY MOURNS, PENNSYLVANIA-BASED HATE GROUP GLOATS

Under the title "One Less Kike", the website of Aryan Nations founder 'Pastor' Richard Butler is running the video of the decapitation of the 26-year old American Jewish businessman by al Qaeda affiliated Moslem extremists in Iraq. Aryan Nations, one of the oldest hate groups in America, promotes an ideology that claims that Aryans are "the true Israelites". Its ideology is virulently antisemitic, anti-minority, and anti-immigration. The website of the Pennsylvania branch of Aryan Nations is running an article that labels al Qaeda as "freedom fighters", who "did all races and countries a favor by helping us with the plague we call the Jew". The same article celebrates Berg's murder adding, "...this Jew was executed like all Jews should be...".

Of course, the alliance between Nazis and Muslims dates back to the days Adolf Hitler and Amin al Husseini:

Bosnian Muslim SS Division Hanjar

Muslim Nazis

I'll bet money that Mr. Berg's friends would not hesistate for half a second to cut his head off.

I feel for this mans lost.Perhaps he is just as nieve as his son was.

Many have offered to pray for Nick and my family. I appreciate their thoughts, but I ask them to include in their prayers a prayer for peace. And I ask them to do more than pray. I ask them to demand peace now.

Iv prayed for Mr.Burg , I'v also prayed that the lord will enlighten him on the evils in this world.
What Mr. Burg does'nt understand is since the begaining of mankind, the good people who wanted peace, has had to fight for it. Peace is obtainable only if you overcome the evils of this world...

What kind of sick bastard uses his dead kid to make political smear? Maybe Nick went to Iraq to get away from Dear old Dad...

George Bush never looked into my son’s eyes

George Bush also never cut your son's throat with a knife, like an animal, and then held up his severed head for the camera.

The question arose as to why Nick Berg was in Iraq in the first place...
after reading his Father's comments following his brutal, sadistic murder, is it possible he was halfway around the world to get as far away from his Father as possible?

Simon, poor pathetic and disillusioned Simon...quoting
"The people rise up and shrug off fascism in all its forms eventually"

Regardless of who they are or how you label them, once these "fascists" (as you refer to them) are overthrown, who in your narrow minded and hubristic view of the world will make and enforce “better” decisions regarding governmental policies and procedures then?
The free world as we know it would regress into an abysmal pit the likes of which have never been seen or imagined.

Strangely enough, in such a dark and virulent environment, a sniveling weasel such as yourself would probably thrive. Often as an informant, the town "snitch". Or perhaps as a "brown shirt", who in the company of like minded pantywastes, bullies the weak and infirmed, but when caught alone and confronted, tends to quiver uncontrollably and then warms himself by pissing down his leg.
Democracy has it's flaws, but it IS the best sytem going on in the world today. America IS the best country in the world bar none, and the world's last best chance at freedom and justice for all.