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Mon, May 24, 2004 at 6:36:03 pm PDT

Here’s the latest news in the court martial of Hasan Akbar, accused of rolling a grenade into an officer’s tent during the Iraq War: Witness: Soldier Admitted Attack on 101st.

FORT BRAGG, N.C. - A prosecution witness testified Monday that a soldier charged with killing two officers in a grenade attack during the Iraq war confessed to the crimes after his arrest, saying he feared the wartime deaths of Muslims.

Sgt. Hasan Akbar, 32, of the 101st Airborne Division, faces the death penalty if convicted in the attack. Monday’s hearing was held to resolve legal issues in advance of Akbar’s court-martial.

Sgt. Eric Tanner, a brigade legal assistant, testified Akbar told a major that he attacked his fellow soldiers and said after he learned of his right not to incriminate himself that he was “ready to talk.”

When asked why he committed the attack, “Sgt. Akbar stated ‘I did it because I’m Muslim. They were going to kill Muslims and rape Muslim women,’” Tanner said.

Akbar’s lawyers have said there were no witnesses to the crime and Akbar was accused because he is Muslim. They want Akbar’s statements kept out of evidence during his trial.

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1 Oktober  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:37:38pm

how did this fucker even get in the 101st?

2 Powderfinger  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:38:01pm

Just die, Hasan.

Can DOD still hang traitors?

3 Oktober  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:39:50pm

#2 Powderfinger

hang? no
guillotine? hopefully

4 Iron Fist[deleted]  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:40:16pm
5 Seahawk  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:40:30pm

Think his trial will take longer than that of the
soldiers at Abu Ghraib?

Think the fact that he is from the RoP will have
any effect on his sentence?

Think if a Mormon or a Methodist had killed
his fellow soldiers in time of war, on behalf
of the enemy, he would be treated the same
way as this member of the RoP?

6 Globular Cluster  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:40:58pm

So is he gonna get off scot free? They can't admit his statements as evidence? There were no witnesses?


Aargh.

7 Oktober  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:44:10pm

#5 Seahawk

I wouldn't mess with mormons during a time of war, could get ugly

8 Sol Roth: Abu the needle is too good for Akbar  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:44:22pm
When asked why he committed the attack, “Sgt. Akbar stated ‘I did it because I’m Muslim. They were going to kill Muslims and rape Muslim women,’” Tanner said.

Wait a minute. Nah, just filet this barfbag and feed him to corral full of pigs.

9 Paladin  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:46:19pm

If he gets stockade time he won't last long.

10 ted  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:52:12pm

When asked why he committed the attack, “Sgt. Akbar stated ‘I did it because I’m Muslim. They were going to kill Muslims and rape Muslim women,’” Tanner said.

kill muslims yes...rape muslim women ?Knowing what i know about muslim hygiene...doubt it ...

11 hello_infidels  Mon, May 24, 2004 4:54:57pm

Gen. Patton would have had him tied to a post and shot, like we did to the Wolverines after the fall of Berlin.

My question... where the fuck are men like George???

12 Ben  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:03:19pm

These "converts" irritate me even more than real Islamists. Hang him high.

13 Rayra abu hangover  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:07:40pm
#1 Oktober 5/24/2004 06:37PM PST
how did this fucker even get in the 101st?

iirc, by being part of an Engineering Battaliion that was attached to the 101st, AND by being such a muttering nutjob that his fellows LEFT him 'in the rear with the gear', when 95%+ of the unit crossed into Iraq during the opening hours of the war.

101st as cognizant command at the time of the incident retains the Court Martial authority / responsibility.

Here's to a short trial and an even shorter rope - Allah Ack/...

14 Paul  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:15:17pm

I've been watching "Band of Brothers" on the History Channel. It deals with the exploits and heroism of the 101st AB in WWII. The 101st is more than 60 years old and several generations have served with it. Sgt. Akbar, if he is guilty as charged, has betrayed and insulted every man who ever served in that division.

15 Joshua Scholar  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:15:31pm

Why do I suspect that he actually said, "I did it because I’m Muslim. They were going to kill Muslims [long pause while he realizes how traitorous that sounds] ... uh and uhhh rape Muslim women, yeah that's the ticket. They were gonna rape Muslim women, yeah."

16 Powderfinger  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:16:00pm

#6 Globular Cluster

So is he gonna get off scot free? They can't admit his statements as evidence? There were no witnesses?

Key phrase: "Akbar’s lawyers have said..."

In other words, Hell no. Remembering that he was firing upon those who were escaping the tent he'd just fragged, there are witnesses. At least one of them put a bullet in him, IIRC.

17 Radian  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:16:15pm

Death by firing squad. I'm sure Abazaid (sp) has command authority to order a tribunal. That POS deserves it. Muslim, makes no difference. He is a murderer and deserves death. G-ds law.

18 John Lennon  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:16:57pm

I wish people would take what he says more seriously:

When asked why he committed the attack, “Sgt. Akbar stated ‘I did it because I’m Muslim. They were going to kill Muslims and rape Muslim women,’” Tanner said.

To the rest of the world, this could be a real insight into the mind of a Muslim, and into the nature of Islam as being more of a cult than a religion.

It could be...

It should be...

But in this world of PC where people fail to see what is staring themselves right in the face, it won't be.

19 Oktober  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:19:16pm

#14

IMHO, greatest movie ever

20 Donna V.  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:24:08pm

Er, of course they were going to kill Muslims. They were at war in Iraq.

Death by firing squad is what he deserves but will he get it? Doubtful. The word "treason" seems to be unfashionable these days.

If by chance he was convicted and sentenced to death, I wouldn't be surprised if the "Free Mumia" types rally to his "cause."

21 EE  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:27:06pm

His statements should definitely be introduced into evidence, because they bear strongly on the question of whether he committed this act of murder, and the question of motive, and the question of whether this was an act of treason in wartime, and the whole issue of appropriate punishment.

I think a wartime standard has to be used, not a standard that is designed for peacetime use. We are at war. We didn't choose to be, but we were dragged into a war. And if we are to win that war, then it is important that wartime standards be used.

22 Cornholio - Perhaps Marshall is French?  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:27:31pm
Akbar’s lawyers have said there were no witnesses to the crime

That would be because that S.O.B. murdered the two witnesses.

Get a rope!

23 PostalWorker  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:28:53pm

I'd say that the military won't kill anyone. They executed people in WW2 for what they gave that Mejia guy did. They gave him one year.

Cowardice in the face of the enemy. THey gave him a way lesser charge then he should havev gotten.

Now they'll say this Koranbot was just expressing his concientious objection to Muslim casualties.

He deserves at least life without parole. One life sentence for each charge. He should have been tried on the spot and executed if found guilty.

24 PostalWorker  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:30:24pm

crap - preview is my friend.

25 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:32:27pm
26 Bigsmoke  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:40:52pm

Akbar's statements, the same, were publicized right after the crimes.

I doubt the standards for admissibility of confession are the same at courts-martial as they are in civilian courts.

At a civilian pre-trial suppression hearing, the government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the confession was voluntarily made. This is usually done by showing defendant was read Miranda warnings and waived silence, counsel, etc.

I doubt the military has a Miranda-like rule. Even in civilian situations, pre-Miranda blurts are admissible. The key is that the confession is not coerced.

The confession, if admissible, together with proof of actual death and injury ought to be sufficient.

27 Paul  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:42:36pm

Donna V., #20

"I wouldn't be surprised if the "Free Mumia" types rally to his "cause".

No, I wouldn't be surprised either and that's what's so depressing. Another bankwagon for Tim Robbins to jump onto---along with CAIR, A.N.S.W.E.R., Indymedia and numerous other weasels.

28 PostalWorker  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:43:12pm

#25 ploome hineni

Now that's a pair to draw to. I bet the collaborate and write a book and screenplay based on media coverage of the WoT.

War novel author and retired General fired by the Administration.

Wow I bet it would be a fair and balanced view of the last few years.

Heh heh.

29 LtTw  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:43:54pm

#18 John Lennon

Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw this "kill and rape" mentality.

Although I regret to say the morality and ethics of US soldiers (and Allies, for that matter) isn't as strong as it was in prior wars.

I've heard survivors speak of the relief to know that it was US, not Soviet soldiers, taking their town in WWII.

BTW, you wouldn't believe the cynicism of third-world white collar workers in the USA. Don't believe G.I. Joe was welcome in WWII Europe, didn't believe the guy who murdered the poor Sikh guy after 9/11 would be convicted. (Got the death penalty--so now it is "They'll get him out on appeal." Doubtful, except to these cynics.)

The world is ready for an Anti-Hero--and they will soon get one, I'm sorry to say.

30 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:47:51pm
31 zombie  Mon, May 24, 2004 5:53:38pm

#20   Donna V.

If by chance he was convicted and sentenced to death, I wouldn't be surprised if the "Free Mumia" types rally to his "cause."

Donna -- they already have! Doesn't anybody remember THIS SIGN (scroll down to the fifth photo on the page) that I photographed at the April 10th rally in San Francisco? It said:
"Support Our Mutineers! Free Hasan Akbar!"
There are already plenty of people in this country who see him as a hero.

Think about it.

32 Scorched Earth 138  Mon, May 24, 2004 6:12:15pm

I'm a G.I. and it pisses me off to no end that they brought this traitor back on American soil. Should've put the fvcker on a live fire range in Kuwait & sent him to ala after serving him a pork MRE.

33 Brenda  Mon, May 24, 2004 6:40:45pm

#14 Paul --

I've been watching Band of Brothers too, and have been mesmerized, wondering where we went wrong since then. I'm also thinking a lot about what was sacrificed in WWII to keep America America, and how Congress is now pissing away everything those servicemen fought for, like the nation's sovereignty for one thing.

The borders are a joke, English is becoming but one language among many, entire industries have been sent overseas just to save a buck, etc. ad nauseum.

It's infuriating, too, that the military has become PC. Give the Muzhole a fair trial, then execute him.

34 doc Russia  Mon, May 24, 2004 6:45:42pm

IIRC, he was hit by shrapnel from one of the grenades he threw, and not shot by someone else.
I also remember when he was caught in a bunker shortly thereafter, and thinking to myself that they should have just shot him then and there. Field Justice.
It would appear that my fears are being realized, and my first reaction was correct.
Dammit.

35 Paul  Mon, May 24, 2004 6:48:07pm

#33 Brenda

Buy the DVD, it's a multidisk collection. a little pricey but well worth the expense. It's hard to believe that these men fought 60 years ago---but the 101st lives on.

36 PostalWorker  Mon, May 24, 2004 6:49:06pm

"Although I regret to say the morality and ethics of US soldiers (and Allies, for that matter) isn't as strong as it was in prior wars. "

I don't agree. What do you base that statement on? All wars have atrocities. These US military men and women in Iraq have shown amazing restraint overall.

It's easy you see to give in to your inner human savage and take it out on the SOB's responsible for your suffering to have to kick their asses.

It's a miracle that our people don't just go postal on their asses over there.

My apologies to the USPS.

37 theheat  Mon, May 24, 2004 6:50:18pm

Convert to Islam or hook up with the Klan - either group seems to be protected under the sanctity of freedom of religion and freedom of speech as they go around killing (or planning to kill) people they're intolerant of. (Because their God tells them to.)

Yeah, had he been a Methodist or a Mormon, or even a nice Irish Catholic kid, they'd have hung the SOB already, if not physically - in the media.

Now the puke will be some kind of martyr. How ironic.

38 PostalWorker  Mon, May 24, 2004 6:54:33pm

#37 theheat

Yeah he's a martyr of both inner and outer jihad. If he's guilty, may he burn up with fervent heat. Ahhh toasted raisins ...

39 Carrie Wade  Mon, May 24, 2004 6:57:34pm

Have any of you read Nelson DeMille's "The Charm School?"

Maybe I am an an extremist, but has anyone besides me noticed that all the top dogs in our U.S. military are second generation Americans? Hmmm. . . . makes me wonder who really won the Cold War.

If these individuals had purposelfully set out to destroy the morale of our military and the will of the American people, they couldn't have done a better job.

If you haven't read the book, then I encourage you to do so, then take a very good look at who is in charge of our military and then draw you own conclusions. I have - and it's scary.

40 Paul  Mon, May 24, 2004 6:59:16pm

#34 doc Russia

Had it been with a line unit, Sgt. Akbar would be history. But, if I remember correctly, he was was back with division HQ and so escaped the field justice he richly deserved.

41 Pete(Detroit)  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:02:59pm

They want Akbar's statements kept out of evidence during his trial.

No shit.
"Hangin's too good for him, BURNIN'S too good for him; he should be torn into Little Bitty Pieces and BURIED ALIVE!!!" - Hannover Fist, Heavy Metal

42 Aisha  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:04:00pm

According to the Shari’ah, in normal conditions, when there is no declaration of Jihaad, Muslims are required to conduct themselves in a dignified and honourable way. Their sound character and conduct should leave an impression in the hearts of non-Muslims that Islam is a religion of submission and subjugation to the orders of Allah Ta’ala which invokes the peace of Allah Ta’ala on earth. Thus, Islam is a religion of peace and is against any act that impedes peace.

Even, when there is a declaration of Jihaad (by competent and reliable Ulama, after having studied the situation and substantiating the need for Jihaad with Shar’ee reasons), it is prohibited to target and kill women, children and old people. Hadhrat ibn Abbaas (Radhiallaahu Anhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) used to advise the army before dispatching them, ‘Do not deceive, do not disfigure, do not kill children and those in churches.’ (I’elaa-us-Sunan vol.12 pg.31; Idaratul Qur’aan).

Very often, world soldiers have been used as tools by the enemies of Islam to attack Islam, as is also the present situation in Iraq. The soldiers of the coalition
forces are being used as a tool by the enemies of Islam.

It is also well known that soldiers are often humilated by seeing other soldiers' private parts.The so-called mossad has been shrinking Muslims' private parts in Sudan. This is all a gross violation of Shari'ah.

Besides, Hasan's surname is on the Iraqi flag.

Therefore, we cannot be sure that Akbar did what he did.

Therefore, what Akbar did is blameless. Akbar Akbar.

43 C.T.  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:04:13pm

Why give him a firing squad? Hang the man - that is the fate of murderers and rapists, by the tradition of the US military.

Let see...Oh, he did NOT knock -off the camp power system, then roll grenades into the tents, and then waited outside with his long arm to ambush the people running out of the grenade blasts? Yeah, sure. Pull the other leg, it has bells on it...

C.T.

44 David  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:09:31pm

Millitary executionsare, if done by the book, carried out by lethal injection, nowadays.

45 Paul  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:15:12pm

Aisha, #42

Either you are a truly stupid person or you're on drugs.
Which is it?

46 PostalWorker  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:17:57pm

#42 Aisha

If "Akbar Akbar" means Aisha is a stupid ass twit that needs to get a real brain, then I agree.

47 hello_infidels  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:19:34pm

#43 Aisha

Their sound character and conduct should leave an impression in the hearts of non-Muslims that Islam is a religion of submission and subjugation to the orders of Allah Ta’ala which invokes the peace of Allah Ta’ala on earth. Thus, Islam is a religion of peace and is against any act that impedes peace.


well well well, tell that to the families of the men your hero blew up in that tent...

Therefore, what Akbar did is blameless. Akbar Akbar.

now thats proof you are STARK STARING NUTS!!!


someone give me a roll of ducttape so i can wrap my head up before it EXPLODES...

48 Paul  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:24:50pm

Aisha, #42

"The so called mossad has been shrinking Muslims' private parts in the Sudan."

LOL! You are an imbecile.

49 Aisha  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:38:25pm

Paul, it is true - I read it in Al-Quds. A victim, who refused to give his name, said that while he was at the market, a man approached him, gave him a comb, and asked him to comb his hair. When he did so, within seconds, he said, he felt a strange sensation and discovered that he had lost his penis.". Sudan's Attorney General Salah Abu Zayed declared that all complaints about the missing penises would be brought before a special investigative committee.

Obviously, only the zionist entity could and would do that.

50 SA  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:39:03pm

Aisha,

'Very often, world soldiers have been used as tools by the enemies of Islam to attack Islam, as is also the present situation in Iraq. The soldiers of the coalition
forces are being used as a tool by the enemies of Islam."

So what enemy of Islam is "using" the muslims presently committing atrocities (enslavement, rapes, pedophilia, murders, etc) in:
Sudan
East Timor
Zanzibar
Mauritania
Pakistan
India
Phillipines
Thailand
Algeria
Nigeria
Saudi Arabia (atrocities against all non-muslims and second class muslims (Pakistanies, Bangladeshies, Indonesians, etc)?

Please, Aisha, go country by country and enlighten us on the enemies of Islam and how they are forcing muslims to behave in such barbaric way (and I am not talking about putting underwear on prisoners heads or pyramids of naked bodies).

And Aisha please, no more quoting form the Koran or Hadiths, I hear that shit five times a day. Real words and real thoughts are appreciated.

51 McNarsty  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:41:11pm

The so-called mossad has been shrinking Muslims' private parts in Sudan.

Good Start, I'm thinking...
Shrivel 'em up, they look just like rasins!

it is prohibited to target and kill women, children and old people.
Which is why they ONLY blow up the GUY'S barraks, the gay discos, and the 'men only' pizza places.
They would NEVER explode a schoolbus, or {perish the thought} use 'protesting' school children as shields.

Altogether - It Must Be The Jooos!

Dude, you blow so much smoke up my ass, you should use PrepH for chapstick...

52 Paul  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:47:39pm

#29 Aisha

Do you have a regular column in "the Onion"?

53 jms  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:55:50pm

#18:

" When asked why he committed the attack, “Sgt. Akbar stated ‘I did it because I’m Muslim. They were going to kill Muslims and rape Muslim women,’” Tanner said."

> To the rest of the world, this could be a real insight into
> the mind of a Muslim, and into the nature of Islam as
> being more of a cult than a religion.

I think that the real insight is contained elsewhere:

Akbar’s lawyers have said there were no witnesses to the crime and Akbar was accused because he is Muslim. They want Akbar’s statements kept out of evidence during his trial.

If I'm reading correctly between the lines, this idipt appears to be buying a first class ticket to his own execution by (and this is pure speculation) hiring lawyers versed in Islamic law instead of American lawyers with experience in American military law.

Those arguments -- lack of witnesses, the fact that Akbar is a Muslim who killed non-Muslims -- are very important if you are preparing a defense in an Islamic Shariah court. However, such arguments will most definitely not impress or amuse a United States military court.

54 Aisha  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:56:51pm

#50

Muslims in the countries you mention are generally fighting against oppression by Christians, Hindus (India and Paksitan), Animists (Africa). The situation in Saudia is different. Unfair discrimination against Muslims based on nationality, culture and creed is Haraam.

It is not necessary that all the practices in a Muslim country will always conform to Islamic rules and principles. Anything un-Islamic in a Muslim country cannot be justified and will remain wrong and deserves condemnation.

And we can only offer proofs by reference to the noble Qua'ran, and the Hadiths. That is the only truth.

55 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:58:19pm
'I haven't really followed Sudanese current events closely since, oh, Gen. Kitchener's victory over the Mahdi at the Battle of Omdurman in 1898. But a recent story from that benighted land happened to catch my eye. Last month mass hysteria apparently swept the capital city, Khartoum, after reports that foreigners were shaking hands with Sudanese men and causing their penises to disappear. One victim, a fabric merchant, told his story to the London Arabic newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabi. A man from West Africa came into the shop and "shook the store owner's hand powerfully until the owner felt his penis melt into his body."

I know the feeling. The same thing happened to me after shaking hands with Sen. Clinton. Anyway, as Al-Quds reported, "The store owner became hysterical, and was taken to the hospital." The country's "Chief Criminal Attorney General" Yasser Ahmad Muhammad told the Sudanese daily Al-Rai Al-A'am that "the rumor broke out when one merchant went to another merchant to buy some Karkady [a Sudanese beverage]. Suddenly, the seller felt his penis shriveling."

The invaluable Middle East Media Research Institute, in its exhaustive coverage, noted that the penises of Khartoum were vulnerable not merely to handshaking. "Another victim, who refused to give his name, said that while he was at the market, a man approached him, gave him a comb, and asked him to comb his hair. When he did so, within seconds, he said, he felt a strange sensation and discovered that he had lost his penis."

Mark Steyn on Sudanese Pecker Theft

ROTFLMAO!

56 Grandma  Mon, May 24, 2004 7:58:44pm

Aisha is here to let us know that there really is humor in Islam. I find the little gal’s comments rather amusing. Especially all the Koranese blatherings. And now I know Allah’s real surname: Ta'ala. I thought it was Akbar.

57 Bigsmoke  Mon, May 24, 2004 8:02:15pm

49 Aisha

You have provided much needed comic relief.

You ought to sell that story to "The Man Show" on Comedy Central.

58 Stinky  Mon, May 24, 2004 8:04:10pm

49 Aisha

I can't stop laughing. That's perfect.

Damn, I had a Jewish suitemate in college. I never used his comb, thank God...

See the Zionists are smart to go w/ the Chemically Castrating Comb. If the Mossad came up to some stranger and said, "Here, swallow these pills" or "Here, cut your penis off w/ these hedge trimmers", their plan would never work. I'm thinking they move into the Gillette and Crest realm now. Rogaine Weiner Reducer.

59 islam is peace  Mon, May 24, 2004 8:28:25pm

Statement inadmissible? Last I heard, evidence related to motive-means-opportunity, is always relevant in Free World courts of justice.

60 Avi  Mon, May 24, 2004 8:58:01pm

The victims:

HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND: NEWS RELEASE

March 22, 2003

An unknown assailant or assailants attacked elements of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) at Camp Pennsylvania, Kuwait at approximately 1:30 a.m. local (March 23), injuring 13 soldiers. The wounded soldiers were medically evacuated to a Combat Service Hospital for treatment of their injuries.

The area has been secured and an investigation is underway to determine the circumstances of the attack.

United States Department of Defense: News Release

March 23, 2003

The Department of Defense announced today the identity of an American officer killed by a grenade when he was sleeping in a tent at Camp Pennsylvania, Kuwait, on March 22. Killed was Army Capt. Christopher Scott Seifert, 27. No home-of-record is available.

Seifert was assigned to the 1-101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky.

United States Department of Defense: News Release

March 26, 2003

The Department of Defense announced today the identity of Air National Guard Maj. Gregory Stone, 40, of Boise, Idaho, who died on March 25th from wounds received by a grenade in a tent at Camp Pennsylvania, Kuwait, on March 22nd.

Stone was assigned to the 124th Air Support Operations Squadron, Idaho Air National Guard, Boise, Idaho.

Screaming Eagles pay last respects to fallen brother

[Chris] Seifert was an infantry platoon leader, an Airborne school and Basic Infantryman Course graduate, and later attended the Military Intelligence Advanced Officer Course. He was a distinguished officer, hard working and well respected by his superiors and subordinates alike, [Maj. Kyle] Warren said. ...

The faces on some of the soldiers began to glisten as Warren talked about Seifert's family. His wife, Theresa, and baby boy Benjamin, residents of Clarksville, Tenn., were visiting with relatives in Morrisville, Penn., when they were notified of Chris' death Sunday.

"He had a new baby boy, Benjamin, and anybody would have loved to have a child like that," Warren said. He went on to say when the war is over he will go to talk with Theresa about how she feels and the sacrifice she's made, and he feels confident in her strength to endure.

"When I talk to Terri, I'm sure she'll be the same woman, the great wife that she was when she said that she wanted to be a part of Chris' life," he said. "And I'm sure she'll want to tell her son about his dad. I'm sure she'll want him to be a man like Chris was."

Wyden Honors Oregonians' Sacrifice in Operation Iraqi Freedom

MAJ Gregory Stone Air National Guard ... was a 20-year veteran of military service. He was killed in the grenade attack at the base of the 101st Airborne in Kuwait. He leaves behind two young sons today, Evan and Joshua, as well as his mother in Ontario -- who I just spoke with -- and others across our State who loved him dearly. Major Stone graduated from Oregon State University, and from Benson High School in my hometown of Portland. He died far from the front lines, but again, called to sacrifice in war.
61 transferthem  Mon, May 24, 2004 9:21:56pm

Wouldn't do to keep moslems out of the defence forces would it? That would be discrimination. Better to let a few non-muslim soldiers get their brains blown out than discriminate against the enemy, huh?

The way I see it, the War on Terror...'It's Islam, Stooopid!!"

62 skyrocket  Mon, May 24, 2004 9:49:41pm

I cannot vouch for my source on this since he is merely a business acqaintence who works high up in the insurance Industry in Texas, but here is basically what he said...

Word in the industry in Texas has it that this guy was having an affair with another soldier's wife (and this soldier was one of his targets) and it was a murder for insurance.

Yes, it sounds far fetched - but I wonder if some day I will read about this.

63 zulubaby  Mon, May 24, 2004 11:02:53pm

Another thread faux trolled to death. Am I the only one who finds this irritating?

64 Jimmy The Clam  Tue, May 25, 2004 12:18:41am

#63 - zulubaby

Another thread faux trolled to death. Am I the only one who finds this irritating?

Sometimes, sometimes not it depends on my mood ZB.
You have to admit that some of the better faux trolls are well done. Whoever did Aisha did put some work into it, I kind of appreciate the effort. With no effort, they just look like a regular troll. To do one right is somewhat of an artistic balance. If you go too far you blow the joke. If you don't go far enough you just look like... well... a troll. True comedy in a faux troll is a zen like balance that lives only at the very top of that bell shaped apex.

The all-time gold medal champ of faux trolls were the Noam Chomsky ones. Those even had me scratching my head wondering if the dark one himself were here.

BTW: This Merlot is really good!

65 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, May 25, 2004 1:38:06am

Hey now,

I'm a simple man. IMHO, trolls, faux or not deserve a good ass-kicking.

Now excuse me while I go back to raising hell at San Diego Indymedia. No one there has the balls to kick my ass.

ugh, grrr.

66 Logic  Tue, May 25, 2004 2:16:38am

Re: #54 Aisha

And we can only offer proofs by reference to the noble Qua'ran, and the Hadiths. That is the only truth.

Anyone that actually believes that the stream of illogical garbage in the bleepin' Qua'ran and Hadiths is truth has to be dumber than a bag of hammers.

Drag your stupid ass out of the Middle Ages and open your eyes to some real truths: the moon never split in two; the Earth is not flat; and Mohammed (torment and curses be upon him) was a delusional, pedophiliac, murderous WACKO!

67 Pitiricus  Tue, May 25, 2004 2:21:49am

Is Aisha for real, or did the Zionist entity make her brain disappear?

68 Ranger's Dad  Tue, May 25, 2004 2:38:41am

That was a hard day at my home and the old news reports posted at #60 bring a lot of it back...

But believe me when I tell you, he will have a real hard time getting off. Let's just say that a lot of times, when you catch a rat, you also find that he has left a lot of droppings behind.

He hated all the officers. The Muslim thing was just his spur of the moment excuse...

69 Knight who says Ni  Tue, May 25, 2004 2:47:26am

I would like to echo 35's comments re: Band of Brothers. Buy the DvD set (~$100) - it is simply unforgettable.


Re: 42

The so-called mossad has been shrinking Muslims' private parts in Sudan. This is all a gross violation of Shari'ah.


That has to be one of the funniest things I've ever read ... I'm going to be chuckling over that all day

Ni

70 Ranger's Dad  Tue, May 25, 2004 3:05:36am

I also have the "Band of Brothers" DVD set and highly recommend it. Among the bonus material is a video journal filmed by one of the actors that has some pretty funny moments in it, as well as some great interviews with some of those veterans of the 101st.

Best line: "Were you a hero, grandpa?" "No, but I served with a bunch of heroes."

If you enjoy that, you might also want to check out an old black and white movie that just came out on DVD, "Battleground". An account of the Battle of Bastogne that is very well done, and includes some real footage of the actual members of the 101st marching.

71 Asylum Aleikum  Tue, May 25, 2004 3:08:00am
I read it in Al-Quds. A victim, who refused to give his name, said that while he was at the market, a man approached him, gave him a comb, and asked him to comb his hair. When he did so, within seconds, he said, he felt a strange sensation and discovered that he had lost his penis.".

This is what happens when one combs his pubic hair too vigorously.

72 PDM  Tue, May 25, 2004 3:27:27am

#71 Asylum Aleikum,

Very funny nick (and it kind of reminds me of home).

73 Karly  Tue, May 25, 2004 5:58:35am

If they dont execute him (and I almost think death is too kind for him) he should be thrown into the worst possible prison that the US has to offer, with absolutly NO special protection from prison officals and the inmates should be told what he has done in fine detail(you know that he wants to kill Americans so that muslims can be spared)...one small pointer for mr. akbar...you may not want to be praying with your ass in the air while in prison...

74 Ratbert  Tue, May 25, 2004 7:00:45am

#12

These "converts" irritate me even more than real Islamists. Hang him high.

I agree, the homegrown variety of Moosleems in the U.S. seem to have a chip on their shoulders. Unfortunately, this combination makes for a rather unpleasant and perpetually unhappy person.

75 Nick Lauren  Sat, May 29, 2004 9:35:37pm

Symphony for the Guardian of Peace
By Adam Bom

I think every stinking Muslem should be forwarded this, as it is to be their end!

Sung to the tune, "Symphony for the Devil" the Rolling Stones.

Please allow me to introduce myself
I’m a thermo-nuclear device
I’ve been around since World War II
Designed to lay waste to enemy life

The Islamic world will vaporize
In my almighty burning flames
Extremist and Moslem innocents
Transformed into charred remains

Pleased to atomize you
Hope you guessed my name
But what’s puzzling you
Is how I got into the game

You invited me on from the Tyranny
Of your psycho Mullahs Vice
Who taught you that Jihad
Is every Moslems duty and right

What you should of known
You were brainwashed for their gain
They raped your daughters, right?
And your sons were offered fame

Pleased to atomize you
Hope you guessed my name
But what’s puzzling you
Is how I got into the game

I will ignite with a sunlike light
In Mecca during Ramadan
The Black Stone and a billion Moslem’s
Will burn in a pillar of shame

Your religion is a fool’s parade
Led by men who’s power grows
You live in misery and poverty
While they thrive upon your woes


Let me introduce myself
I’m a thermo-nuclear device
The message that I’m sending out
Is that you all will pay the price

Pleased to atomize you
Hope you guessed my name
But what’s confusing you
Is how I got into the game

Just like Islam is a religion of peace
And all the murdering martyrs saints
As black is white
Just call me Atom Bomb
Cause I’m in need of some restraint

If you’re in my vicinity
When my powers are unleashed
You have only a moment in time
To Plea for a place in eternity
Or change now and live in peace

Tell me terrorists, what are your names
Tell me Moslem innocents, what is their names
You have the chance to stop your apocalypse
I tell you one time, or you too are to blame.


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