Dang... just in time to make my comment #27 in the Unlikely Alliance thread look late to the party.

Gaza = "sister city"?

What, are they questioning the masculity of that city???

Oh, the seething and whining that will result...

You've got to be f'n kidding me. Next we're gonna hear that French politicians wanna give nukes to...oh; never mind.

Shucky Darn. If I had know that my previous comment was going to be #1, I would have said something more substantive. Okay, let me try to make up for it.

I think this picture of a billboard for Madison's largest daily newspaper should tell you everything you need to know about the mentality there.

Madison is the only city to have elected a Socialist party mayor.

I was unfortunate enough to spend 3 yrs in that PC swamp. a nice place otherwise...

OT: Read this - time for a major fisking offensive against Admiral Zinni: The Protocols of the Elders of Zinni.

Maybe Madison is able to identify with Rafah as a haven for smuggling drugs and weapons.

Keep liberals out of college towns! They're destroying great places such as Ann Arbor, which I love.

"..devloping green space?"

Oh, right; for the olive trees. How could I forget?

Oy va voy! I would have expected more from a town named after Oscar Madison!

By the way, since Sontag says "...the pictures are us.", does anyone know where I can find those web photos of Sontag being led around naked on a leash? The blurry ones, that is.

There's a whole bunch of people in Rafah who need new homes. I guess Madison is planning to take them in, right?

#5

I believe Burlington Vermont is on that list!

Let's build a security fence around Madison.

V the K,

I was about to go find that picture.

the mission statement of the municipal government in Rafah reflects a democratic vision that corresponds to the values of Madison’s political leadership...

Note that they stress the "statement", not the reality. This was true in the Soviet Union, where the constitution was teaming with democratic ideals but the reality was the worst police state the world has ever known.

...and make the vision of our people a reality...

The vision of their people is the destruction of Jews and the state of Israel. Not much to add to that.

Madison, if I'm not mistaken, is the hometown of the University of Wisconsin. It may as well be called Berkeley-Wisconsin.

Does this mean that Madison too will set up bomb making clinics, terrorist training camps, and build tunnels to help smuggle arms into Illinois?

What a bunch of f*cktards.

...would foster deeper understanding of the traditions...

LMAO! As soon as the Rafah residents understand the "traditions" of the Madison hippies and rug munchers, the residents of Madison can learn about the Rafah tradition of rock throwing.

Can we swap Wisconsin for Alberta? Fair trade?

Madison is a town where people protest just to protest. Now that they are sister cities, perhaps we can move all of the LLL's to Rafah?

#5: for all its dippy politics, I don't believe Madison has ever elected a mayor from the Socialist Party. You must be thinking of Milwaukee:

[Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

Aw, let's cut Madison some slack. It's tough trying to style yourself as the intellectual capital of The Land Behind The Cheddar Curtain.

WHEREAS, the communities of Madison and Rafah, despite many differences, share such common goals as developing green space, improving the environment, balancing urban growth with the preservation of farmland, and enhancing transportation networks... strapping explosives onto the bodies of our brainwashed children and watching them blow up Jews in their schools, malls and pizzerias, smuggling weapons into our Arab brethren (inspite of our anti-gun laws) to further the holy Jihad, seeking a Judenfrei land where all forms of Islamo-fascism can prosper...

I ate grits for the first time in Wisconsin. No offense to grits-eating-people, but grits should be declared WMD.

Maybe that has influenced my opinion, but I think the Madison City Council is a bunch of idiots.

"would foster deeper understanding of the traditions, values and cultural heritages among citizens of both cities"

Let's see, Madison can learn about building
tunnels for the smuggling of
arms and dope; suicide bombers; jihad;
shooting one's own citizens
in order to make "atrocity" videos; repression
of women; and other intrinisic cultural values
of Rafah.
Can't wait. . .

Check out the list of endorsements.

What the hell happened to that town?

Madison, WI -> Home of University of Wisconsin -> Headquarters of Midwest Progresslave Movement

Sister City, Rafah, Hamas, Arms tunnels? Yep, sounds about par for the progresslave course.

Anyone note who is amongst the advisory committee? No one other than Noam "I hate myself, Jews, and America" Chomsky.

'nuff said.

I believe that a Senator from Wisconsin called Madison "Ten Square miles surrounded by reality" back in the 60s. Rarely were truer words spoken.

Like many major university towns Madison is filled with people who never grew up, left college and joined the real world.

My sister (relatively liberal) moved to Madison from Chicago. When she and her husband (Seriously liberal) started their family they immediately left Madison and moved to a farm town outside the city. When I asked why she said "They are crazy in Madison... I want my child to grow up in a real place - not fantasyland"

#13 Ringo

Let's build a security fence around Madison.

LOL!

I'm trying to remember...during Gulf War I, didn't the UW school newspaper publish an editorial, "Support the President" -- referring to Saddam Hussein? And wasn't this paper considered too far to the right by most students?

A long time ago, I went to college in Austin, a town with many similarities to Madison (largest state college, capitol city, liberal atmosphere, nice lake...). But Austin sort of swerved back toward the center while Madison just kept spiraling. I guess it's because the Austin metropolitan area has exploded with growth, high-tech industry, and outsiders working tech jobs while Madison is still sort of sleepy.

We're working on it:

http://www.jewishmadison.org/

Click on the icon for our monthly Jewish newspaper. It's a .pdf file and may take a while to download.

On the positive side, my Madison shul will sponsor a lovely Shavuot celebration with minhah and ma'ariv, cheesecake, and lots of study and discussion through the long evening.

Tziporah

How about Rafah and South Central L.A.?

You know what this means midwesterners?

We need to call Caterpillar, get some D9 bulldozers and go find a few Professor's houses and turn them into rubb...mount...dus...nature preserves. They shouldn't support terrorism like this.

I there something about large amounts cheese that rots otherwise sane peoples' brains? Look at the French. Now the Wisconsonians. Someone somewhere should commission a study on cheese exposure and deranged political views.

#23 zorkmidden:

I ate grits for the first time in Wisconsin

Speaking as a Jew who is a native North Carolinian:

Whut thuh hail wuz you thinkin', you geographical-gastronomically challenged Yankee fool? Grits is not to be taken lightly, and anybody whut wants the axual grits experience ought not be tryin' em up whar the hot dogs is WHITE!

That Graham Usher character from Charles' Hamas link has a long association with antiwestern Middle East 'reporting' as well as with the BBC, as revealed in this Google:

[Link: www.google.com...]

my point exactly, Seahawk

Are there (Canadian prescription) drug smuggling tunnels leading into Madison?

OT

If anyone can stand listening to NPR (or really PRI), their show "The World" is doing a piece this hour on soccer hooliganism - in Israel.

[Link: www.theworld.org...]

Hooliganism

Team pride often gets out of hand at soccer matches. In Israel, hooliganism is becoming a problem for the sport. Especially now that the number one spot belongs to an Israeli-Arab team. Hear how an anti-racism goon squad is trying to keep mid-east politics out of the game.

Gee, I wonder if that's going to turn out balanced. (BTW, "The World" is co-produced by the Beeb).

...from the holy city of Madison....

Read the letter against:

Dear Mayor Cieslewicz and Alders:

Actually the city harbors much anti-Chirstian hate also. So if you're Jewish or a Christian, you're not welcome in this one f*cked-up town.

I don't know how many times I can say this, but the ignorance and bigotry that many right wingers (read KKK and their sympathizers) had in the first 60 years of the twentieth century exists, but is now in the LLL's of the north.

When you have a large city with nothing but college professors and government employees (no disrepect to any civil servents on the list) you have a lot of shelter bigots who don't have a clue.

#35 The Dread Pirate Gryphon

LOL! Ya mean, I gotta try them things again???

Well, Dundee is twinned with Nablus - another contribution from George Galloway.

It was an unlikely union that saw the PLO flag flying over the Gothic splendour of Dundee's municipal buildings, but it quickly took on a farcical air when, as part of the twinning ceremony, the Mayor of Nablus was presented with a crate of whisky and a kilt by the Scottish delegation. What use a strictly teetotal Muslim, both of whose legs had been blown away in a terrorist explosion, would have had for whisky and kilts was never made clear.

OT

We could have used this guy a few threads ago....

As a Wisconsinite I can assure everyone that Madison does not represent public opinion in this state. I lived in Madison for a couple of years back in the 80s, the city is dominated by two institutions: the University of Wisconsin and public employee unions (Madison is the state capital). Both institutions are run by LLLs, as is the City Council and the mayor's office. The local newspaper, the "Capital Times" reminded me of "Pravda" (with a wedge of cheese on its masthead instead of a hammer and sickle). Oddly, most people in Madison are not LLLs but the left wing activists pretty much control everything. Madison is not as bad as Berkeley (the long, cold winter discourages many loonies from moving in) but it's not for lack of trying.

Love the Madison billboard, lol.

Anyone in need of cheering up today, feel free to read my friend Faust's brief but cutting essay on the source of Arab hatred for People of the Book.

Enjoy.

They're laughing at us. They're holding their stomachs careful not to ignite their suicide vests and they are laughing so hard they may pass out.

The Red in Red White and Blue is turning to Pink.

Look out, Cottage Grove, Wisconsin! The suicide bombings should start happening shortly after ratification. That'll put an end to your occupation of Madison's birthright land.

So, how long before one of the college towns where I went to school --- Ann Arbor, Eugene, and Tempe --- feel obligated to do something even more idiotic radical chic.

Been to Madison. Don't remember that much.

"WHEREAS, the communities of Madison and Rafah, despite many differences, share such common goals as developing green space, improving the environment, balancing urban growth with the preservation of farmland, and enhancing transportation networks"

I think it's outrageous how everyone is mocking this proposal. If you had ever been to Rafah, you'd know that these subjects are among the most hotly debated subjects in that fair city.

"Yo Ahmed, how come you're still here? I thought you were shooting Jewish kids and pregnant women this morning?"

"That's this afternoon. This morning I'm thinking of heading out to that debate President Arafat is sponsoring on balancing urban growth with the preservation of farmland."

"Wow, that sounds sooo cool"

I'm sorry to be somewhat off-topic, but there was talk not long ago about a gathering for Chicago-based LGF readers.

If it hasn't already occurred, could someone provide me with more information?

Thank you.

Madison is just Berkely with winters.

#31,

Nice to hear positive things also happen in Madison. Have an extra morsel of cheesecake for us lgf'ers

Regards, JonathanD

#49 V the K:

I think you're safe with Tempe; the exploding belts in that town were always concentrated in the TeePee Tap Room's parking lot.

LOLOL! Young white privledged kids have so much in common with muslims who's daddy's don't have a dime to send the kids to college.

What particular values does Madison seem to think it has in common with Rafah?

A reckless disregard for human lives (Palestinian and Israeli)?

A steadfast desire to see one group of humanity, as constituted in a legitimate nation-state, destroyed?

A habitual and continual acceptance of terrorism as a means of doing business?

----
Top 5 reasons Rafah is not like Madison, WI or any other place on earth:

5) Rafah likes its Jews dead (okay, maybe not such a good start)

4) Rafah's residents love the creature comforts of underground smuggling tunnels (we haven't started searching Madison though)

3) Rafah residents claim need of government cheese (aka handouts), while Madison, WI is a leading producer of cheese (pork however, is clearly available to friends of the Madison politicians)

3a) Rafah doesn't produce much other than terrorists, smuggling tunnels, and great fiction

3b) Madison, WI doesn't appear to have any tunnels, terrorists, or even good fiction writers (again, maybe bad distinction since the resolution writers think they're somehow on the same page with Rafah's values and mission statement)

2) It was real easy to confuse acronym DCFM (Dane County Farmer's Market) with AAMB; and

1) Rafah never got the Packer Backers Cheese head hats as promised.

So, upon further review - Madison is really alot like Rafah.

I think the radical universities like Berkeley are getting more radical because of unchecked immigration. The usual constituency for moderation, the 'regular Americans', are overwhelmed by first generation immigrants who are focused on making money. This leaves a much smaller constituency for traditional civil and constitutional rights.

#43 Colt

Eek! Devastating news.

Will there be a Poet and Tragedian of Nablus? (Dundee's is here.) Abu Wilmhamed McGhraibigal.

Oh fair city of Nablus
Your unwashed streets a shambles
Now you’re twinned with Dundee
It’s three kalashas for tea
And you have to wear a kilt to gambles.

You ever notice that no matter how radical left-wing a college is, it never warrants any kind of social disdain, even if you can get course credit for going to strip clubs (a la Berkeley) or getting stoned and holding a Bush=Hitler sign social activism (Evergreen, San Francisco State). But conservative colleges, no matter how academically rigorous, are ridiculed solely on the basis of ideology.

Think about it. A degree from Berserkley or Evergreen State is considered respectable, but there are a lot of places where a graduate from Bob Jones or Brigham Young need not apply.

#52 Ted Engel:

Roughly, June 17th 3 pmish, at a bar in the Clark and Belmont area. Email me and I'll keep you informed as the specifics congeal.

RIP Ford, evariste, and yours blammo! are in so far.

#30 Lapsed Leftist

Austin's still very liberal, by Texas standards. That being said, Texas is pretty conservative in nature and our liberals don't campare to those beyond the Red River.

Madison and San Fran are in a league of their own.

Hmmm, the mayor has an email address mayor@cityofmadison.com - perhaps he is interested in our views?

http://www.ci.madison.wi.us/mayor/mayor.html

#61 andthenblammo!

Drinks are on me!

Ah Madison, the city that found the Star Spangled Banner too militaristic and banned it from public schools.

#60 V the K:

Jeez, you'll be claiming that the major media outlets have some kind of lefty bias next.

Me, I went to an institute; think how that looked on the ol' resume.

If you do write the mayor, please be civil. He has NOT supported this anti-Israel sister-city project.

#56
"Young white privledged kids have so much in common with muslims who's daddy's don't have a dime to send the kids to college."

Thats funny. I went to two other schools in the University of Wisconsin system (two normal ones) and much of Madison is that. Little rich white kids with soft lives. Perhaps if their hometowns had sucide bombers blowing up school buses, they would feel differently. But when your biggest concern is if you're going to get laid when you hit the bars on State street this weekend, you tend to not really have a clue about what really happens in Israel and the MidEast.

We don't call it the People's Republic of Madison for nothing.

Al Qaeda's got 18,000 personell ready to go

Check out this little cute presentation made by French Muslims on their vision of the future of France,

find it here.

If you click on the link I gave in #63, you get Study Circles with the following text: "Erase racism. Change begins with you ..."

#64 RIP Ford:

You may have just said something that may, like the aromatic smell from a White Castle bag, come back to haunt you in days to come. Good luck.

"Why yes, bartender, I do believe I will have another!"

#54 JonathanD

Thank you for your kind comments.

As I said on another thread, there are a lot of good people in Madison. The shul I belong to is exceptional - high marks in every way, due to a great rabbi and an involved congregation.

There are more than 200,000 people in Madison, so don't judge the entire city by a few individuals.

Absolutely unbelievable. I'm sure that the top priority in Rafah is the preservation of green space.

Also worth seeing: This london based group's video on "the spread of Isam", a must see. SIIIICK

Click here

(have your speakers on)

Did anyone tell those idiots in Madison that Rafah is not a city ,but a refugee camp for unemployed palestinian bums ?

OH WHY CAN'T IGNORANCE BE A PAINFUL THING ?

(#60) V the K

A degree from Berserkley or Evergreen State is considered respectable, but there are a lot of places where a graduate from Bob Jones or Brigham Young need not apply.

I don't think a degree from Evergreen State is all that respectable, or will open all too many doors, unless that door leads to a swank job standing on a street corner, holding a clipboard and harrassing passersby and asking if they have "a minute for greenpeace."

And I can't speak for the rest of the country, but BYU grads seem to do fairly well in D.C.

As someone who has lived in Madison AND Austin, I can say that:

a) Lake Travis really pales in comparison to the four lakes in Madison. Of course, you can't go tubing or frolic around nekkid in Madison, unless you enjoy frostbite in June.

b) both cities are fulla liberal dingbats, although I've never seen anyone parading down Guadalupe with the Pali flag...and there were never any rocks handy to chuck at those f*ckwits, damnit.

Madison does have a history of terror bombings, one of the Sterling Hall murderers was released from prison and bought a sandwich shop on State St...he opened a bar above it called (wait for it...) CHE'S LOUNGE, replete with icons of El Che allll over it. Yeah, he's rehabilitated.

I was a freshman at the UW during Gulf War I, and yes, there were "teach-ins" against "the war" which was derided as being "for oil"...even though if the Canadian Army (har, har) was marching to "liberate" the "Oppressed" in Madison, I'm sure the students would have been all for that "unilaterism". Pathetic. Madison is still trying to relive its "glory days" as a hub of anti-Vietnam protestation.

I think Madison was also a sister city with Managua during the heyday of the Sandinistas.

If you think the Wisc. State Journal (replete with their socialist realism imagery on billboards) is bad, try reading their "alternative" weekly, The Isthmus. Their web forum is full of jew-hatin' arab-lovin', socialist nitwits. Check it out if you get bored clue-batting wayward trolls at LGF: The Isthums Daily Page

zorKmidden: how did you even find grits in Wisconsin? Don't eat grits in Wisconsin and don't order bratwurst in South Carolina or you're going to be terribly disappointed. (The Dread Pirate obviously has never had a real Wisconsin bratwurst. There are few things better than a grilled brat and a ice cold beer on a hot July day.)

What Paul (45) states is true. The only issue I have with Charles' statement "The lunatics have taken over the Madison City Council" is that he makes it sound like it was a recent thing. The lunatics took it over a long time ago.

We haven't all lost our minds here. In fact Wisconsin is a "battleground" state in this election and Duyba lost in 2000 by only 7,000. And at least a few of the Gore voters turned out to be Milwaukee street people who were being lured to the polls with free packs of cigarettes.

And don't forget, Madison is the city where a few years ago some people went to a cemetary the night before Memorial day, took all the American flags off the veterans graves, put them in pile in the cemetary and burned them.

To link to another subject, media bias. This will not get any play outside of Madison. Imagine what would have happened if a right wing town in the 1980's would have instituted a sister-city/state relationship with South Africa.

Look at how South Carolina is harrassed because they have a Confederate memorial on the capitol grounds.

The states of California, Vermont, Wisconsin and Washington are all lost.

#7 Yehudit

I already psoted that great article about Zinni on another thread.

OT -- who says that our media ignores events in Iran? They have Iranian protestors here.

#79 j-damn

Take any Pol Sci courses when you were here in '91?

Is that link on #4 serious?

Maybe it's a leftover prop from Red Dawn?

Has anyone in Madison ever studied communist governments? Anyone, ever???

#62 RIP Ford:

Austin's still very liberal, by Texas standards. That being said, Texas is pretty conservative in nature and our liberals don't campare to those beyond the Red River.

It's been over ten years since I lived in Austin, but these days when I visit, my impression is that even though it's still liberal, it's settled into livable social liberalism, as opposed to full-blown nutjob Leftism, which is where it might have been heading circa 1990 but didn't for some reason, thank goodness.

Agreed that even in its heyday Austin had nothing on Madison or NoCal. (For a couple of years I dated a woman from Santa Cruz -- the stories put Austin to shame.)

Ithaca, eat your heart out.

Sorry for the typo, the short video is called "the spread of Islam" - have your vomit bags ready and remember that this group is free to operate in Britain.

"WHEREAS, the communities of Madison and Rafah, despite many differences, share such common goals as developing green space, improving the environment, balancing urban growth with the preservation of farmland, and enhancing transportation networks..."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, like those Palestinians are improving the environment? What does slaughtering Jews have to do with typical left-wing environmental wacko ideals? Probably more than we thought.

Rafah I'm sure is a third-world sh*thole. Balancing urban growth with the preservation of farmland MY A$$!

A list of cities in the U.S. that belong in 'Palestine':

Madison, WI
Cambridge, MA
San Francisco
Ann Arbor, MI
Amherst, MA

Anybody have any others?

I am *SO* glad I didn't go to grad school there....

I saw this on the news the other night (I live near Madison), actually just 1 block outside an aldermanic district.

I can't complain to the city council about this, because of course, I'm not in a district. I was however, outraged. This is total idiocy.

PS: it looks like someone on [Link: www.plastic.com...] thinks we here actively promote genocide...

[Link: www.plastic.com...]

The post is number 181.

Donna V.,

As a transplanted European whose misconceptions of America were endless, I thought all Americans had eggs and bacon for breakfast every morning, every American had a swimming pool, and grits were traditional American food.

So I saw nothing wrong about ordering grits in Wisconsin. I have seen the light now. I shall not eat tacos in Nebraska!

;-P

I ♥ American food

As a native of Eugene, Oregon, now living in the Chicago area, I enjoy visiting Madison occasionally. It reminds me of home - in ways both good and bad. Both cities are fun to visit, and probably great places to live for the most part, but home to an odd political culture that probably wouldn't survive, much less drive local politics, in much of the country. Working (?) museums of hippie culture and late 60s campus radicalism.

#91 Norwegian Woody

Add Burlington VT. to that list as well as Seattle WA.

#71

Yeah, I took an intro to US government course when I was an Education major, as it was required. After I switched to History I also took a Rhetoric class to fill another requirement.

Many of the goofs in my dorm freshman year thought there were going to be HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of body bags streaming home during GW1...I got a good laugh out of that.

I also recall some students being horrified that we had supposedly bulldozed some sand over Iraqi foxholes...as if a round through the head made you any less dead. Sad, soft, simps.

During my grad work, my intro course in Information Science inexplicably included "Orientalism" by Said as a required text--you can't get away from the dingbat leftism no matter what your focus is in Madtown.

#88 Lapsed Leftist

Agreed. The dot com boom changed the demographics of the city pretty significantly, and very quickly.
As a side, I think that I'm moving there in couple of months. It's about the only place in the state that you will find the "redefeat Bush" bumber sticker in any sort of numbers. It should be interesting.

#35 The Dread Pirate Gryphon

They have white hot dogs in Wisconsin?

#70 JJ

Stratfor - Al Qaeda's Next Strike

# 97 j-damn

I might have been your TA in Intro to American Gov.

someone tell me do the people of madison go around burning palestinian flags and shouting death to palestine and arafat is satan.

do they go around denying the right of minnesota to be an independent state, and threaten that if they dont become part of greater Wisconsin then they will be pushed into lake Superior!

if the cities wish to link they should at least hold the same ideologies and principles. and all women have to wear cheese heads to boot!

Mary # 100

thanks for the link. Interesting analysis.

City of Madison Council Members - Phone numbers and Addresses

CITY OF MADISON
COMMON COUNCIL MEMBERS
2003 - 2005
(all numbers are area code 608)

Common Council Home Page

#76
JJ

Wow, that was truly disturbing. The last part looked liked a CDC epidemiological spread map. Does that make the RoP a plague?

Looks like they like to ride horses, though. Almost lost me on the endless gallop.

Anybody have any other (cities that belong in Palestine)?

Takoma Park, Maryland

#76

Shocking video produced by the disgusting barbaric followers of a desert cult. It's clear enough that they want war-- time to give it to them in a much bigger way.

How smarmy is this idea? Usually sister cities have some sort of similarity or relationship. I've never heard of cities using the sister city relationship to make nauseating, self-righteous leftist political points.

OT: Pictures showing armed Palestinians boarding a UN-marked ambulance with a UN flag.

Israel channel 10 aired yesterday Inon Maga'l item showing armed Palestinians use UNRWA ambulances to flee undercover.
Photographs taken at the Gaza Zeintun neighborhood about two weeks ago, on the same night the first APC was exploded, clearly show armed Palestinians boarding a UN-marked ambulance with a UN flag, and flee the scene.
The reporter stressed that this was not a Palestinian Red Cross ambulance, known to have transported armored Palestinians since the outbreak of events, but rather a supposedly neutral ambulance of the UN.

Armed Palestinians Use UN Ambulances in War against IDF

#99 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus:

Yeah, dey call 'em bratwurst, dere. An' dey don't drag 'em tru de garden dere, eeider.

At least dey don't put no goddam ketchup on dere brats, dere. Puttin' ketchup onna Chicaga dog will get your ass kicked from here to Toity- toid street.

Anybody have any other (cities that belong in Palestine)?

Chapel Hill and Carrboro, NC

Pray for me, guys--I'm going to Mad-town in July for a family reunion (it's home to the left-wing side of my family, including my LLL uncle who ran for mayor of Milwaukee in the '70s, who had an "Impeach Reagan" sign in the front window of his house, and who once told me he feared a military takeover of the US)....

Two words Rafah-loving white chicks in Madison should bear in mind: honor killings.

Norwegian Woody

You can also add Portland OR. to that list.

#111 andthenblammo!

Oh, all the brats I've ever seen were kinda spotty brown (and wrapped in plastic with the name "Johnsonville" on them).

#101

Will, you may have...I can barely recall that course (was it in Ag or Bascom Hall?). I was an AP gov't student in HS so it wasn't new material, really.

Of course, the alcohol that soaks the UW campus factors into that hazy non-memory. I look at my transcripts and wonder "did I really take Honors Philosophy?"

Can Falls Church, VA be added to the "list of cities that should be in Palestine"? There's lotsa jihadis here and Nicholas Benson, who publishes the Falls Church "News"-Press hates Bush. He does a lot of seething/whining in between reprinted Friedman and Dowd columns.

#116:

Oh, youse don't wanna eat dose, dere. Dem could give youse Gloppner's disease or sumting, and de'll have to lock ya up an feed ya tru a tube. Happened to a cousin o' mine.

I was under the impression that Bratwurst was a brownish color, and that Polish Sausage was whitish in color.

They have plenty of both in WI.

I could be wrong about the colors though.

# 117 j-damn

Ag hall, I think. Course was taught by a terrible professor, by the way.

Here's the email for the Madison Chamber of Commerce so you can let them know how eager you are to visit a city that has chosen Rafah as its twin:
[Link: www.greatermadisonchamber.com...]

Letter sent to the Mayor and City Council...

Ladies and Gentleman,

You are without doubt some of the most moronic self-satisfied asses in this nation.

I have never read such self-important, grandiose and delusion talk since I worked in a mental hospital. You are collectively a perfect example of the rule that there is never too stupid an idea than some fools won't buy it.

Sister City with people who vow to make "their land" Jew and Christian free from the River Jordon to the sea.

Sister City that sends its inhabitants forth with the sole intention to murder Israelis.

Sister City to monsters who murder without trial their own people suspected of collaboration.

Pass the resolution and you will deserve, if not earn, the disgust of all who read history--which apparently excludes the utopian morons in your town.

I hope that after you pass your heinous resolution some of the fools in your town visit Gaza (expecting, in their dreamy state, to receive warm welcomes and sing a few rounds of cumbaya), who receive instead the treatment that their stupidity ensures. They will be taken hostage in 10 minutes by their "brothers and sisters."

You no doubt see yourselves as some kind of enlightened and humane beings. You are, sadly, pathetic clowns who have lost contact with reality.

Martin Kozloff

#106 nucleartinkerbell

did you spot the plane flying over the horse? pure evil.

#108 morgan

yup.

Someone somewhere should commission a study on cheese exposure and deranged political views.

Dude, I like cheese, big heaping piles of cheese.

No one gets between me and my cheeseburger!

#27 Bubbaland

"Noam "I hate myself, Jews, and America" Chomsky"

Actually, Chomsky and his ilk (Neumann, Finkelstein, etc.) don't hate themselves. They exhibit symptoms of clinical narcissism, a mental condition that causes them to feel superior to everyone else, especially members of their "family" -- e.g. Jews, Americans, etc.

Narcissists are so in love with themselves that can never admit that they are wrong about anything, and that anyone else is ever right. And, of course, no narcissist can ever admit that he is a narcissist.

Narcissism a well defined and studied mental disease, but alas, the ethics of the psychiatric profession prevent professionals from speaking up, allowing these dangerous egomaniacs to get away with it.

You know, both Ray-O-Vac and Philip Morris' Oscar Meyer division are headquarted in Madison (combined they account for 99% of the non-government jobs in that city). We should do the liberal thing and establish a boycott of these mediocre products.

Actually I guess I'm boycotting them anyway since neither companies products appeal to me, but you get the idea.

The Left in Madison always has enthusiasms; it needs them to survive and give meaning to their muddled lives. During the 60s it was Viet Nam, in the 70s it was feminism, during the 80s it was Nicaragua and El Salvador, in the 90s they discovered the Palestinians. They desperately need something or someone to be in solidarity with, petition for, march along side of, or chain themselves to. Madison is already "sister city" to half cities the Third World---the prerequisite is that the city be controlled by a communist/socialist or violently anti-American government.

But..but..but..Oscar Meyer had that cute commercial 30 years ago! We can't boycott the li' fishing boy!

Do people see why I prefer the Arboretum to the rest of Madison? Birds don't declare solidarity with Haman son of Hammedatha the Agagite.

Actually, if you're listing "cities that belong in Palestine" on the basis of being filled with over-the-top left-wing activists, run by corrupt liberal one-party governments, siding with Arab dictatorships over democratic states, and filled with academic parasites who contribute nothing and even retard the advance of Western Civilization --- you maybe should start with Washington, DC.

RIPFord

If you need some help when you move to Mad City, send me an email.

Chris Allen
Nothing to worry about. Enjoy the beauty that is Madison in the summer and check out the Saturday Farmers Market if you will be here on the weekend.

Kielbasa (Polish sausage) is usually dark. Brauts (pronounced 'brats') have a color that is based on the recipe and casing.

Excellent cheese is everywhere.

I posted well over a year ago about Olympia, WA making Rafah a sister city.

Why is anyone surprised that other cities like Olympia would do the same? After all, no one even noticed Olympia doing it.

Yes, #83, California is among the lost. As a resident of the SF Bay Area who dreams of getting out (but where????), I despair. I just despair. If anyone suggested making Rafah a sister city with Berkeley or SF the resolution would pass immediately and the green and red flags would flutter from every pole. They might as well be fluttering there already, what with the zillion "Free Palestine" stickers on cars and windows. These morons welcome terrorism, beckon it with open arms and trembling kissy-lips. Their beloved bridges could explode and they would blame GWB.

I fantasize about retreating to my basement, being a hermit and not coming out until "it" is over. What if it's ten years? What if it NEVER ends? I actually do not know how to proceed, where to find sanity, where to seek hope. I'm not religious, unfortunately.

Went to work yesterday and everyone in the office was acting perfectly normal, as always -- as if we weren't a nation at war, a nation overtaken by lunatics, a nation under threat, a nation attacked, a nation besieged, a nation hated. The threat isn't real to them. They think they're fucking immortal and that America sucks.

It seems our great mayor Cheezldick knows about as much about the pali scumbags "culture" as he dose aboout capitalism. His plan to get companies to move to Madison is to raise business taxes and the minimum wage! The newspapers and local news programs apparently did'nt see anything illogical about this because they havent said a thing about it. NO wonder Rayovak packed there bags for Atlanta when this moron got elected. I'm sure more will follow, rest assured this idiot won't rest until the last of us sane individuals and businesses get the hell out of this town.

the best part is that THIS is what they spend there time doing when this town has the biggest budget problem in its history! They really take on the tough issues. Im sure that after these brave individuals are finished bringing peace to the middle east they will have plenty of time to learn how to balance there checkbooks! what a bunch of morons.

Funny co-incidence about where this thread is leading.....I had a doctors appointment yesterday and my blood pressure was only moderately high. So I celebrated my Wisconsin roots by grilling Johnsonville brats and drinking Leinenkugel's beer for supper last night. It was most festive. Kind of my own little talegate party.

What I find incredible is that this group who distributes movies like this is still legal in the UK. You gotta wonder.

#119

It's easy to tell Polish from Bratwurst.

The Polish Sausage wears a striped bathing suit and sunglasses while the Bratwurst dons the lederhosen.

The Polish and the Bratwurst in their natural environment

As a Madison-area resident (Middleton-just west of Madison), I can say this tripe is par for the course with regards to the Madison city council. These are the same moonbats and asshats that wanted to award the keys to the city to the Dixie Chicks after they mouthed off in Europe. I thought they were too busy banning smoking in bars and restaurants and raising the minimum wage in the city ("How dare you call us anti-business!!!") to partner up with a hotbed of terrorism. There's not enough hours in the day when you're a "Progressive"!

As a previous poster stated, Madison proper has always been dominated by the counter-culture left, the State government, and the University. All in all, they talk big but seldom deliver. Most of their antics are symbolic gestures that make good fodder for the leftwing birdcage liners published here (Capital Times, Isthmus, etc.). The majority of the Madison metro area and other state residents expect this crap, so we just laugh at them and go on living our lives in the real-world. If nothing else, it sort of keeps things interesting. If you can keep this perspective, the area is a great place to live. Very low unemployment, growing economy (especially in biotech), great outdoor recreation, family-oriented, excellent restaurants and some of the best craft-brewed beer in the country.

#30 Lapsed Leftist

I'm trying to remember...during Gulf War I, didn't the UW school newspaper publish an editorial, "Support the President" -- referring to Saddam Hussein?

Yes, that would be the Daily Cardinal. The editorial admitted that Saddam wasn't a nice guy. But the important thing was to oppose American hegemony.

And wasn't this paper considered too far to the right by most students?

No, that's the Badger Herald. It's so far to the right that it has made Fayyad Sbaihat a columnist. He's the one who wrote the loopy editorial claiming that Israel killed Yassin just to distract attention from Sharon's legal trouble. He's also a leader of Al Awda and has been reported to be tied to the terrorist group PLFP. He denies that last part, of course.

Incidentally, Sbaihat is given a fawning writeup in Madison's "alternative weekly", The Isthmus. I can't find the story online, but I could transcribe some excerpts if anyone wants to be naseated.

Gee, what will President George huwa alethi Yark'a amam hamil al-saif Bush do about this?

Anything?

The official Madison, Wisconsin slogan:
Madison, Wisconsin: A great place to raise your family (if you hate Jews and like to wear giant fake cheese on your head in the freezing cold).

Actually Wisconsin does have another crackpot enclave; it's the East Side of Milwaukee around the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee. It's not nearly as bad as Madison and the loons don't control the city government.

Hamas provides governance in ruins of Rafah by Graham Usher

Ah yes Graham Usher, dhimmi of the year, spokesman for Palestinian jihadism. Fine man.

Alas, ladies and gentlemen, I was a student at San Francisco State -- I lasted five semesters.

My friend stayed, even though he was shot at, attacked by the university president -- in public -- and the dorm tried to bill him for a new door to his room after radicals torched it.

OT: Holy city, Batman!

Its no secret that some of the holy shrines in holy city of Najaf (one of the holiest of all holy cities in Iraq) are holier than other holy shrines, but the holiest of the holiest of all the holy shrines in the holy city of Najaf now has holes. Who made them?

The Kuwaiti representative of Iraq's most powerful Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani, accused al-Sadr's militia of deliberately attacking the shrine "to agitate world opinion against the coalition."

#118 andthenblammo!

LOL!

#124 Les

Dude, I like cheese, big heaping piles of cheese.

Mmmmm.....64 slices of American cheese....

What will Michael Feldman have to say? (What do ya know?)

Seeing as Madison is now a SISTER to Rafah, the entire city is hereby forbidden to go in unveiled in public, to go anywhere without a male by its side, and is required by law to weep and ululate in front of an AP cameraman for at least 5 hours a day.

Go Packers!

#145 Luigi

Sorry, that's from Wash Times

[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

Longtime Wisconsin residents (and ex-pats) have known about the LLL ways of Madison for a long time. This does not suprise me in the least. This is one of the few counties that went for Nader in 2000.

Never been drunk in Madison, but I have been drunk in Kenosha, Milwaukee, and maybe Lake Geneva.

Also been drunk in Austin, which, as mentioned before, is also an LLL haven/college town and state capital.

I've been drunk in Berkeley (great brew pub back in the 80s, w/ awesome snack foods about two blocks from BART station, plus I've eaten good Ethiopian, Cambodian, and of course, sushi there). Of course, Sacramento is the state capital, I've never been drunk there except in the back of a car drinking beer while roadtripping from Alameda NAS to Reno/Tahoe (multiple trips). Yep, drunk in Reno, Tahoe, and mildly buzzed in Vegas (my wife was with me that time).

Since Houston is home to perhaps the single most successful combination Jewish furniture salesman/amateur rodeo cowboy, and IDF vets have treated me to beef fajitas (with guacamole) perhaps Houston should become sister cities with some Israeli beach city.

I've been drunk in Gainesville, and ate at a pancake restaurant beneath an autographed photo of Tom Petty eating pancakes at that very table. Never been to Tallahassee, but I have also been drunk in Baton Rouge, which is also a combination capital/college town.

Useless trivia, based on location of capitol buildings, the four southernmost state capitals in the US are Hilo, Austin, Baton Rouge and Tallahassee. AUS and BTR are close. I think the Floridians should move the capital to Palm Beach, Daytona, or Orlando, as I have been drunk there. They would also move up to #2 behind Hilo for being southernmost.

Been drunk in Boston, another college town/capital.

Oh yeah, for the non-tribal among us (ie, me) what Jewish holiday is today, and what does it celebrate, and how can we have it made into a Federal holiday?

#138 Badger

You're right about Madison, it is a pleasant place to live
with great amenities. The problem is that you have to somehow filter out the endless bullshit coming from the True Believers who would turn the city into Havana on Lake Mendota.

WHEREAS, the communities of Madison and Rafah, despite many differences, share such common goals as developing green space, improving the environment, balancing urban growth with the preservation of farmland, and enhancing transportation networks...

I'll have what they're drinking. Party on!

#152

You're late for your clan meeting. Don't forget the torch and hood.

#131 Tziporah

I appreciate the offer, but I was talking about Austin. Whoops. It's too cold, for too long, north of the Mason Dixon for me. Thanks.

Guffaw!

Ooops, sorry.

Thank you, Madison, Wisconsinites (?), for tying up Rafah before our nutty city council (greenspace, farmlands, smoking ban, etc.) decided to take them on.

[Wonders how many "towns" there are in the Gaza Strip]

155 JJ

Calm down, JJ, its a fair question.

#80  ploome hineni  

who are brought up to feel empathy and to give to the less fortunate

and they aquire guilt for what they have recieved effortlessly..

forgetting the sweat and tears of their parents and grandparents who give them everything

and freedom also

A very good point. Sometimes it seems we are looking in horror out the window watching our children run into the street because they assume that the cars will stop for them.

#125 Marudkhai

Narcissism a well defined and studied mental disease, but alas, the ethics of the psychiatric profession prevent professionals from speaking up, allowing these dangerous egomaniacs to get away with it.

Nice post, but what "ethics".

"WHEREAS, the communities of Madison and Rafah, despite many differences, share such common goals as developing green space, improving the environment, balancing urban growth with the preservation of farmland, and enhancing transportation networks..."

Ummm, aren't these some of the things we're doing in Iraq ........along with working on women's rights and restoring the wetlands in the south?

Gee, I wonder why they aren't establishing a sister city in Iraq? Oh, wait, it's because they are dumbasses.

#155 JJ

Whoa.
Friendly fire.

Actually Wisconsin does have another crackpot enclave; it's the East Side of Milwaukee around the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee. It's not nearly as bad as Madison and the loons don't control the city government.

Ah, yes, where I sit (at home, sick) right this very second. Well, not exactly the same area, Paul - I'm closer to the Art Museum and Veteran's Park. It's funny, those few blocks do change matters a little. There are actually people who have American flags hanging in their windows around here - that disappears and the peacenik signs turn up the closer you get to UWM. There's some maroon who lives on Locust who still has a Dean sign in his window - either he/she is unwilling to face facts, or else has been stoned since before the primary and doesn't know Dean's out of the picture.

However, the East Side is friggin' Orange County compared to the lunatics in Madison.

Today is Star Wars Anniversary Day, Ed, although I doubt that could be made a Federal holiday, I can see lots of ways that drinking could be involved. It could also possibly be made into a Jewish holiday if I remember the requirements correctly from other posters: They tried to kill us, we won, let's eat.

It must've been a "hell" of a rally.

On Monday, February 16 at 11:00 a.m., Senator Ted Kennedy and Teresa Heinz Kerry, John Kerry’s wife, will rally Madison voters to help John Kerry fight for every vote during the final hours before Tuesday’s Wisconsin primary.

OK, as long as we're bashing Madison today, I have a couple more items to add.

One 60's peace activist (i.e., rioter) named Paul Soglin got himself elected mayor several times. "The Red Mayor" made at least two trips to Cuba, where he gave Castro the key to the city. He still runs for office now and then, and is considered a moderate. Certainly he's nowhere near as socialistic as the current mayor.

In 1989, I was briefly in the student senate. The student association president decided to make Nablus a sister city of Madison. A jewish senator introduced a resolution reminded everyone that such a move required the approval of the senate. The president responded by throwing a screaming fit (literally screaming) in the middle of a student government meeting. She accused us all of being racist. She was black, so it had to be true. Sure enough, we were condemned as racist by the Daily Cardinal; all sorts of activist groups issued press releases expressing their indignation.

Luckily for my helath, that senate never met again; a week or so later, the student supreme court declared that all interim senate appointments were invalid because the senate didn't have quorum when it made the appointments. Since the whole purpose of the appointments was to get to quorum, the senate was unable to meet until the next election, and the president basically ruled as a dictator.

#82 Donna V:

Ah'll have you know Ah attended undergraduate skewl at the Yale of the Midwest. Ah says yall's hot dogs is white, and Ah says to hail with 'em.

(Actually, I'm quite partial to a nice crispy juicy Brat.)

Is this a picture of the mayor?

I've been drunk in Sacramento. Oh wait, I live in Sacramento.. Nevermind.

;-P

(#152) Ed Moran

Shavuot

Shavuot, the Feast of the Weeks, is the Jewish holiday celebrating the harvest season in Israel. Shavuot, which means "weeks", refers to the timing of the festival which is held exactly 7 weeks after Passover.

Shavuot also commemorates the anniversary of the giving of the Ten Commandments to Moses and the Israelites at Mount Sinai.

Madison is an LLL dumping ground. They come here to attend the UW never having the courtesy to leave. Most find public sector jobs, thus making the rest of our lives miserable.

Before having children, I had a typical LLL Madison worldview encouraged by my public school indoctrination. Thankfully, I was saved by some patient and conservative family members who knew when it was the right time to share some Thomas Sowell books (among others) that started my journey back into the real world. There are many good people here who have learned to tune out the antics of Madison's city council.

In addition to this ass hattery, the city council recently passed a minimum wage law, banned smoking in all bars and adopted an inclusionary zoning ordinance thus insuring more subdivisions in the burbs. Madison is extremely anti-business.

ESPN elected to hold their Great Outdoor Games in Madison this summer. Once the LLL alders learned about the shooting sports, (fully police approved, btw)they got a bad case of the vapors and were distraught for weeks at the thought of law abiding citizens shooting guns at targets for sport. It was just so icky for them.

The supporters of this horrible Rafah Sister City idea continue to deny, deny, deny that terrorism is the number one industry in Rafah. I have resigned myself to the fact that they will prevail. It's tailor made for the LLLs. They'll wear their out arms patting themselves on the back for being so noble and brave.

#152 Ed Moran

Here ya go, courtesy of WriterMom:
Shavu'ot

But since I myself am not Jewish, I shall be celebrating "The Unveiling of Hotness ;-) ."

#170 SoCalJustice

Darn it...your too quick for me.

But as you can see I had a good reason to get sidetracked ;-)

#170 SoCalJustice

Thanks for the info.

Dread Pirate Gryphon: LOL! And I'm partial to a nice bowl of grits with a bunch of butter and salt and pepper.

(Actually, that probably serves as a good marker for where the South begins - when hash browns are replaced by grits in the diners, you know you're not in Yankeeland anymore.)

(#169) zorkmidden

Oh wait, I live in Sacramento

I'd drink a lot too if I lived there. ;-)

#168 scaramouche

I didn't know you were LLL ?!? :-P

Donna V, #163

Sorry to hear you're under the weather, I wondered why you were posting at such an unusual (for you) time.

My friend's daughter just moved to the East Side, on N. Bartlett St., about two blocks west of the UWM campus.
I took a walk around the neighborhood with her father---two middle aged, suburban, white guys prowling through enemy territory. My polo mallet came in handy.

#153 Paul

As I said, if you can keep things in perspective...

No area is perfect (as far as I can tell); one usually needs to make a trade-off here or there.

We moved here about a year and a half ago from the Chicago suburbs. But I did grow up in the Milwaukee suburbs, and I went to school at UW, so I knew what I was getting in to. Chicago had Michigan Ave, Wrigley Field, Lincoln Park, great dining and night life. It also had significant crime, bumper to bumper traffic on Sunday at 2pm (90 minutes to go 15 miles!!!!!), very little sense of community, a very depressed job market,and your housing dollar sure did not get you much.

In the Madison area (not City of Madison, mind you), I got what I mentioned previously, along with a much bigger house and property, a comparable compensation package, a ten minute commute to work, and no Saturday road trips in fall to see UW Football games (season ticket holder). I also got exorbitant property taxes, and have to contend with the nutbags that call themselves "persons of conscience" and "progressive" instead of left-wing liberals.

As I said...trade-offs.

I wanna see what happens when they declare the Packers haram.

#152

You're late for your clan meeting. Don't forget the torch and hood.

I posted

Oh yeah, for the non-tribal among us (ie, me) what Jewish holiday is today, and what does it celebrate, and how can we have it made into a Federal holiday?

Well, oh-quick-to-judge-one, tell me what in that question qualified me as a Klansman (oh, yeah, they spell the word "klan" with a "k". Not sure why)?

#166. I remember that.

You'll recall the Republican takeover in the 1980's? A guy called......something Fehrman let it. And what did the evil Republicans do when they took over the Senate? They stopped funding these unknown Central American political groups.....no one could say where the money was going anyway. They took the savings from that and hired tutors for the students. They did other common sense work like this.

#171

Don't forget all the schools who can't come play at Camp Randall because their mascots are offensive or they use guns/artillery when they score.

Also, some students & administrators had a shitfit when the Air National Guard did a flyover before the first Badger football game after 9/11.

The City Council ensures that everyone moves to the burbs, true...their Section 8 policies surely don't help. Thanks to the City, one of my nice neighborhoods was transformed into a regular Caprini Green in no time. I did so love waking up to the sounds of 8 year-olds dropping f-bombs and pissing in my parking lot.

Total idiots, all of 'em.

#177 Right Wing Conspirator

Obviously, that's an American Scaramouche. The Canadian one--moi--is lower key, lower case and proudly on the right side of the issues.

A middle-aged white man with a polo mallet? (An obvious symbol of colonialism, oppressive, white male privilege, yadda, yadda, yadda)
A sight to make LLL's turn pale and wet their pants.

;-)

(#173) RWC

But as you can see I had a good reason to get sidetracked ;-)

Indeed. The Zionist Entity's entry this year is pretty cute.

(#174) RIP Ford

Cheers

#172 Right-Wing Conspirator

What? No Miss Pakistan? WTF?

#91 Woody: You can have Boulder Colorado if you take A2 off the list-- I'm related to fully half of Washtenaw and Saline counties!

That explains something to me that I wondered about in the Gospel. There is a passage where Jesus and the disciples do something after the Pentecost (and this is pre-crucifiction), and I always wondered what "Pentecost" was in the pre-Christian era.

The period from Passover to Shavu'ot is a time of great anticipation. We count each of the days from the second day of Passover to the day before Shavu'ot, 49 days or 7 full weeks, hence the name of the festival. See The Counting of the Omer. Shavu'ot is also sometimes known as Pentecost, because it falls on the 50th day.

Actually, upon further review I see that the Christian Pentecost actually occured during the Jewish Pentecost festival..

#186 SoCalJustice

Indeed. The Zionist Entity's entry this year is pretty cute

Wow. Indeed.

Somebody needs to notify the Corries quick...They can rename Main street Rachel Corrie Square and have the
"Rachel Stack" at IHOP served with Orange Jews...

#166 Jax
Isn't it ironic that in last fall's mayoral race Soglin was defeated because he wasn't LLL enough? Mayor Cheese Whiz, the current mayor, has never held a job in the private sector, much like most of the city council. Yet these geniuses love to micro-manage the backbone of America, small business.

Madison is more than a year behind the town of Olympia, Washington, which became a sister city to Rafah over a year ago

Oh, the pain of being a Midwestern LLL! We try as hard as we can butt we just can't keep up with the el cubos on the coasts.

/Madison dingbat

Do they have mosques in Madison ?
Do they have their daily five calls to prayer?
Do they dress their women with burqas only ?

I'm just trying to ease their way towards a full and real DEMOCRACY.

#152

Oh yeah, for the non-tribal among us (ie, me)

Julius Levinson: Well, nobody's perfect.

PS...tomorrow ill be calling all the mickey mouse council members of Madison...asking them to explain their postion in re to their sister act with the #1 terrorist slum in the ME....

madison is a fine example of how far the far left can go. I wont be a bit surprise to see the local(crazy)government
send food and building supplys to rafah, so the pales can save their money to buy bombs and bullits.

I guess JJ has gone.

I was going to hitch a ride to my "clan" meeting.

(Come to think of it, maybe he/she/it was accusing me of being )Scottish

I'm at work so I didn't read the whole thread. I grew up in Madison, and yes I was a young hippie I would like to move back some day but idiocy like this makes me not so sure I want to.... Wisconsin is a weird mix of 3rd & 4th generation farmers and factory workers and communists and hippie throwbacks. I remember when it was cool to like Jewish people - now I guess it's cool to hate 'em

You can still make it. They're waiting for you. They can't start the meeting without the leader.

200

Are you stupid, or something?

200
Pinhead -

I know reading comprehension is a problem for you, but try reading my question to you in 181 and then asnwering it.

SoCalJustice

RIP Ford

Clark: How could I ever like a girl like that? She's UGLY.

Ed,

Maybe pinhead didn't get your nom de guerre.

What is your name all about, first off??

#200 JJ

You're way off the mark.

#203 Right Wing Conspirator

Hmmm. I see a pattern here. Maybe I will be taking that trip to Israel sooner then I thought.

JJ try this
[Link: www.gwu.edu...]

Um, it means I suffered a painful procedure as a baby, but fortunately don't remember it. Thus, if Israel has nude beaches, I wouldn't look too out of place.

The nick tends to change. Even so, the nick wasn't exactly "abu ni**er" or "abu Hitler is my kind of Guy" or whatever, so I'm not quite sure what got your panties in such a tight bunch.

#206 RIP Ford

Looks like a beautiful city doesn't it.

Huh? No no no. Seriously. Look to the right or left in the picture, there is a city in the background. Honestly.

209

Austin, TX has a nude beach called "Hippy Hollow", unfortunately it has a disproportianatly high ratio of males to females, as it were.

#210 Right Wing Conspirator

Looks like a beautiful city doesn't it.

Yes, the scenery is quite stunning.

LOL

Note, changed to one of my old generic nicks so JJ doesn't give birth to a cow.

#213 Ed Moran:Abu al Kahoul

No worries, JJ must be new here.

212

Do I see the ocean in the background?

Is that Atlantic City?

Quitting time.

#188
twisterella

I used to live in Boulder! Lots and lots of granola there;D

Still, I miss it so much that I'll trade you the entire state of Rhode Island for Boulder. This state is an island unto itself. Evolution has forgotten Rhode Island.

#171

Madison is an LLL dumping ground. They come here to attend the UW never having the courtesy to leave. Most find public sector jobs, thus making the rest of our lives miserable.

I came to Madison for the partying in 1968, convincing my parents that I was there for an education. I was not an LLL when I got there but I was within a year. I ran a small business off campus when I graduated, and even though I made everything that I sold, and did so with no employees, earning a subsistence living, that was enough to brand me a capitalist pig in the eyes of some.

The recovery of my mental health began in 1975 when I left Madison and started law school in another city, where the professors actually encouraged -- in fact insisted -- that I think critically. Many thanks to them to them, and my apologies to what my classmates and I did to your city.

#8

Maybe Madison is able to identify with Rafah as a haven for smuggling drugs and weapons.

How odd. Soglin and his buddies have always been in favor of very strict gun control laws. I gues that's only true if you're in small arms range of Madison.

#16

Does this mean that Madison too will set up bomb making clinics, terrorist training camps,

In the early 1970s they had both. lots of drug smuggling too, just like the Palestinian territories.

Wait a minute. I think this Madison itiative is midguided. It says here;

***

"Madison and Rafah, despite many differences, share such common goals as developing green space..."

***

I never seen any 'green space' in Rafah...

Oh... of course, they're talking about the Hamas flag. Maybe Madison can put an upraised, fist-clinched AK-47 and some Islamic script on their municiple logo too. Since they're sharing so many commonalities, and all...

Uh, hello Madison... anyone home?!?!?!

199 whosoever wrote:

Wisconsin is a weird mix of 3rd & 4th generation farmers and factory workers and communists and hippie throwbacks.

That was true when I was growing up, but when I moved back to Milwaukee, I found things had changed a bit. My neighborhood now has a zillion Russian Jews (in fact, I just popped over to the Russian-owned mom-and-pop store across the street and it always makes me feel like I've just stepped into Moscow circa 1975 or so, except that there's more on the shelves than there would have been in a Soviet store then - musty smell, creaky floorboards, jars of pickled everything you can imagine, Russian music, Russian (and a few Hebrew) newspapers, and a old Jewish Russian grandpa - who's a sweetheart - sitting behind the counter doing Russian crossword puzzles.)

Things have gotten a bit more diverse (I've grown to hate that word) around here - there's actually some decent Thai and Indian restaurants. Unfortunately, it cuts both ways - there's also a fancy new mosque on the South Side.

# 152 Ed

Just to clarify, Hilo is not a state capital, it's the county seat for Hawai'i county -- thus making it the southernost **county seat**. Honolulu (approx. 200 mi. NW of Hilo) is the southernmost **state** capital ...

Zork: Forget about what you THOUGHT you ate up thar...(like he said) in Wisc. THe only place you can eat Grits (corn meal of a sort) is in the South. Eat em with butter or butter and sometimes sugar..or throw gravy on em..G-d must be a million ways to serveUP grits.

Zork: wanna go Crazy? go to Southern Living Magazine and go to the Food Section. and get ready to go NUTS. They can COOOOOKKKK down there...OY.

www.southernliving.com

I hope this is it.

Leah, LOL, thanks for the link. There's an Orange Dream Pie in there I'm just glued on, lol

Orange Dream Pie

I know I'll never make this, but a girl can dream..
;-P

I wanted to visit SC, since I read "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil", so if the grits are good, one more reason, eh?

Just think, a new generation of students is being brainwashed by these living-dead Marxists...it's sad.

Never seen the PseudoPsalms blog before.

So many cool blogs out there...

>Free Palestine" stickers on cars and windows.

Listen...I live near Berkeley and I destroy any and every "anti-war" poster I see on public property. If the above person is so wimpy that he or she wants to hide in the basement...then maybe California deserves to go liberal terrorist in the future.

The rest of us are helping Bush/Cheney win California (we are only 1% behind right now in the latest poll).

Get out and destroy an "Anti-War" poster near you. It isn't "free speech" that they deface public property with the message that our soldiers ought to be killed.

I cannot believe that LGFers are so wimpy. Please, somebody else admit to regularly destroying "anti-war" literature posted on public property!

#132 I`m a logger in rural Washington, today coming home from work, caught a bit of news on the radio, did`nt hear it all unfortunatly. Sounds like the city council of Olympia is mad at the US Navy for naming one of it`s submarines after Olympia, can`t have that, weapons of war kill children and living things, they want the Navy to name it something else. Anybody else hear anything about this? Rural and Eastern Washington wish Puget Sound could be towed away to say Massachusetts or the San Francisco bay area, take along Patty Murray and Jim McDermott.

I always thought cheeseheads were retards!

As to my post #228 above, just did a Google,front page today`s TheOlympian say`s city council meeting 8 pm PST tonite to discuss this matter.Don`t want the sub to come to Port of Olympia citing "environmental concerns and opposition to nuclear energy", also mentions they want the navy to change the name of the ship.Navy has cancelled port visit. Neighboring town of Lacey is sending message volunteering their name for the ship and also welcoming sailors and all servicemembers to visit.I am disgusted and ashamed beyond words at the cretins in my state(NOT the good people of Lacey)

Jen- I do it all the time at work and I kept throwing facts at them until they couldn't take it anymore and stopped. The truth does win out in the end. Do put up with that garbage our country gives you the right to tell them that they don't speak for all of us. Also go to right wing stuff for gear to throw back at them and piss them off.

I got my BA in Madison, and I edited the opinion page of the 'conservative' paper while I was there. It was definitely a place of dingbattery back then, but much less so - the big issue was 'free East Timor!!!!!!' and 'end the UW t-shirt contract with Reebok because they exploit their labor!!!!!' (in countries where people line up for days to get the jobs, of course).

But it was pretty harmless. MadPAC, Madison's AIPAC, was active, and they'd bring in Israeli singers, speakers, etc. On Israeli Independence Day, they'd have a mock shuk, where MadPAC people would sell all sorts of Israel-made products in the central congregating area. Hillel events were always well-attended.

I am beyond disgusted at what's happened to that place. I remember hearing about that terrorist buffoon writing at MY old paper, and I hoped that would be the worst of it. You'd think a university with 40,000 people would manage not to be completed brainless.

oops, make that 'completely brainless.'

Free Palestine" stickers on cars and windows.

Why destroy when you can add:

Print up stickers that say:

Hundreds of houses are now available in the
Ariel Sharon Settlement near Rafah.

Put the sticker under or next to the Free Palistine sticker

For extra fun include a phone number (whoever you hate most.)

Please, somebody else admit to regularly destroying "anti-war" literature posted on public property!

Umm, I stuck my tongue out at some anti-war protesters. Just my small contribution to this movement.

#227 Jennifer Peterson:

I will confess to altering a few "OBAMA for Senator" signs in the last primary: a few Magic Marker strokes to match the background of the sign, and passerby start wondering why the Democrats are running bin Laden for Senator.

I'm easily amused sometimes.

I worked at the University of Madison and lived around there for three years. Great food, great ambience - closest thing to a fantasy socialist world imaginable. We pretended to work, and they pretended we weren't full of it. They had funkier street people wandering about than I ever saw in Burlington VT.

Worst. College. Politics. EVER. You could be a pederast and keep a job there as long as you toed the political line, step over it and you were in DEEP DOO DOO. They raised the art of backstabbing to a new high.

Other than that, great place. And if after a while you couldn't take all the ambience you drove out of the city and went to the nearest Butterburger joint to get a Cholesterol Gutbomb. Definitely not a pc meal.

Grits? In Madison? Don't think so. It's not the South.

#171 - Most find public sector jobs - uhm sorry 'bout that, I was guilty of that crime as you can see...

How long before a city just cuts the BS and declares a desire to become a "Sister City" with 1942 Berlin.

All this talk has made me nostalgic for Madison with its
fine restaurants and taverns. I think I'll drive out there this weekend and hit some State Street spots; I'll bring my polo mallet along in case I run into some hippies.

#239 Paul:

Hitting a hippie with a polo mallet is just so deliciously ironic, especially if you yell something like "Yoicks!" or "Look out, Buffy!".

Zork..just keep the Site..You dont have to make it...in fact..better just read it ---- Better for your Tush all around..lololol...

Just scrumptioius cooking down there.

Another one..I love Epicurious.com

www.epicurious.com

Yum stuff there too..just fun to read..and once in a while if you feel like it..you can try an easy one.

Zork..My favs are Cobblers..Peach and or Blueberry. These are easy to make..Fruit..throw in some better (bout a stick of it) ..throw in some flour..and sugar..and there you are. My G-d its good.

My beautiful gorgeous S. Carolina..And Savanah Ga. You cant get more beautiful than that..And YES I would be happy to give up IQ POINTS for the Columns.

I am reading Beech Music right now..all surrounded by the gentle and not so gentle South. "Beech Music"..Pat (Im comming to get you our next life) Conroy.

#145 Luigi

Our military has more respect than I would, personally. That's why I prefer to comment on war. Of course, I'd follow any "don't fire" orders right up until some fire came from the Mosque. I'm in Milgram's 40% I've gathered.

Our guys (guys and gals, quit mugging for pix) are clearly better people. Isn't that obvious? Maybe not on TV or in the rest of the media, sure. Let's say you try to keep some grip on reality and perspective. You scored the truth after some digging Luigi, that obviously wasn't for you.

I've begun to look at news stories like that old Clue Game. Hmmm, is there a candlestick? Col Mustard? [Homer]
......good on hot dogs..... Ohhhhhhh........

Anyway, the media cannot be parodied any more. I find it impossible to do a better job than what Charles does, show the article. Look at the bearded lady! Get yer tickets!

Actually, I have a talent for ridicule I should try to rein in a bit. It's wartime ridicule, I reason.

Omigoodness. I just Googled, and Honolulu is the capital.

Whoooo-Hoooooooooooooo!!!!!

I have been drunk in the Hawaiian state capital.

Behold...The Mallet O' Understanding.

Leah, Jheka could use some recipes in his blog too, he says. Let's throw some peach cobbler at him! LOL

Jheka's blog

Jennifer peterson-- I regularly--whenever I find them--destroy antiwar messages on public property.

And I will continue to do so as I have in the past.

(Happy?) I love doing it.

#246 Geepers

It looks more like a croquet mallet than a polo mallet but it'll do. Now, let's find some hippies.

share such common goals as developing green space,

Uhh, yes, but it's a different kind of green...

and enhancing transportation networks

Also true. Except I don't think Madison intends its transportation networks for smuggling suicide bombers. Well, at least I hope not.

OT but note that the city of Olympia, Washington's city council is looking to disinvite the US Navy's submarine of the same name from making a port visit.

#133 starofdavid

They think they're fucking immortal and that America sucks.

Great finish to a great post. I've visited CA, it's offbeat.

Should the Pentagon add Olympia and Madison to list of targets to be bombed in our next offensive against Islamic Terror? Along with Berkeley, which I hope is already on the list!

PS: Will Wonders never cease the NY Times has a story on Nick Berg and it is actually on the Front Page, just above the fold and below, of course, the latest story about Abu Ghraib.

OTOH, my favorite college town is Flagstaff, AZ. It's not everybody's cup of tea, but the town has a good college/working class/latino mix that keeps it from going to far over the edge, awesome scenery, perfect climate, a kick-ass brew pub or two. Maybe because NAU is not an "elite" institution, it's spared the excesses of bored spoiled white kids that make Madison, Ann Arbor, Berkeley, and other college towns such loony bins.

I notice nobody's mentioned Athens, GA. I've only been there once, so I can't comment on whether it's loony or not.

Got a reply from the Mayor:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the Rafah sister city resolution.
When I met with members of the Rafah sister city group earlier this
year, I expressed concerns about the resolution that I had heard voiced
from several members of the Madison Jewish community. I suggested that
they meet with representatives of that community to see if those
concerns could be addressed. Unfortunately, this did not take place
and
the resolution was introduced, prompting strong reactions both for and
against this sister city relationship.

A sister city relationship is an official action of Madison city
government. It is not as simple as an individual-to-individual
relationship. We would take this action on behalf of all Madisonians,
and many Madisonians feel strongly in opposition to this relationship
at
this time. Moreover, debate of the resolution will most certainly
involve the context of Rafah, prompting the Common Council and me to
explore issues of Middle East history and politics that we are not well
equipped to debate. Finally, we would be doing so at the expense of
what I would consider to be more immediate City issues. For all of
these reasons, I cannot support the resolution at this time. I do
understand the humanitarian concerns in Rafah, and I support and
encourage individual citizens to address them as they see fit.

Mayor David J. Cieslewicz
City of Madison

Thanks major. But wouldn't it have been more reasonable for Madison to take for a sister city an Israeli city as well as a Palestinian, even Gaza city? In this way, we continue to appreciate the two rights that have and will forever mark the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Such a solution would never appease extremists on either side, or on this blog site, but it would represent a more widely held political reality.

What political reality? That there is an actual nation called Israel and there is a collection of Jordanian and Egyptians classfied as so-called "Palestinians"?