OT: Sorry to go OT on number 1, but there is a very interesting guest on the Saudi thread...Charles, if you're there, take a look. Mary Martini.

I'm guessing all those military supporters are right over there next to the foreign leaders...

Oh Bullshit, there is no way Kerry is that close among vets. I don't know a single vet, serving or not, who would vote for that asshat.

wait, wait

didn't he serve in vietnam????

John Kerry has more positions than Paris Hilton.

We shrinks call Kerrys condition "Delusional Disorder "

All evidence to the contrary Mr. Kerry. The Vetrans whom you spit on, by your words won't vote for you. The Vetrans who lost their limbs because of the encouragement you gave the enemy won't be voting for you either.

Just a few pages of scrolling down the comments on [Link: www.vietnamvetsagainstjohnkerry.com...]
and you'll see that there are a lot of SANE Vets, and they'll ALL be voting for Bush.

Also many other sites like that one.

I'm a Minnesotan and doubly outraged since he claims support from vets, and did so in my backyard!

Well, didn't Kerry say that "many" foreign leaders have "privately" told him that they wanted him to win? (Actually, I don't doubt that - I'm sure Castro, Arafat, Assad, Chirac, etc. are rooting for him - we already know Hans Blix is).

It looks like Kerry is prone to having lots of "private conversations" with many imaginary friends. If Dr. Irons was in the house, he could give us a diagnosis and perhaps write a prescription for the poor dolt.

and as decades-old fat cells start to break up they release minute quantities of illicit drugs from long-ago abuse, leading to the well-known “acid flashback.”

LMAO!

You should be a writer for Jay Leno. I can hear him telling that one.

reaganite, I was going to ask you that. I can't believe that he would be able to get 30%, much less 40%.

#10 FH
I'd be hard pressed to find 2%. Kerry is more despised than slick willy.

Not that it isn't spin, and not that he's at all popular overall with active duty or vets, but he did say "many", and didn't say "a majority" or "most". 40% is "many". Not enough, but many. Even 30% is "many", when you consider how many active and retired military personnel there are. And of course he's going to spin any numbers his way; any politician running for office would, including W.--it's just how the game is played.

Charles, you and I know what a Serotta Orrott will set you back. About $5k, frame 'n fork.

The real question is: Did Teresa buy it for him?

P.S. screw the polls. President G 'till '08

After he gets thumped in November, he'll tell himself that, privately, many more people wanted him to win, but.....

CBS poll = bullsh*t.

No way, no how.

I will ask this question once again since there are a lot of new folks here:

Has anyone ever been polled by ABC/NBC/CBS, hell, even FNC ?

Please don't elect him.

I can respect President Bush - who is acting is the best way he knows how in defence of America's interests, -but it would really gall me to see an American President defer to the UN.

I'd be hard pressed to find 2%. Kerry is more despised than slick willy.

I wonder why...

The Communist Chinese military. The North Vietnamese military. The Islamofacists military. Kerry is an idiot and keeps making statments so, more and more.

Isn't the democratic humor party a wonderful thing!!

What the fu*k is Kerry's 'Modern Military'?

Does it have anything to do with the blue helmeted fuc*s.

Haven't read through the site, but you gotta admit the name is funny as hell:

http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhima nyway.com/

Please, no ketchup baroness as First Lady.

John Kerry makes Caligula seem like a regular guy.

well, this is one active duty soldier who will not be voting for the commie lover.

Well, we know that he's popular among the Viet-cong veterans.

I remember my first Presidential Election I could vote. I was living in beautiful Saratoga Springs, NY, and voted absentee for Ronald Reagan, a guy I was proud to have as my CinC

Kerry- he is a weasel and a doofus.

OT

Valle de Oro/Amarillo area in Potter county-tornado warning.

Raining at my house, but I got the lawn mowed before it hit. Two hours of thunder/lightning, some quite close, before rain started. Cool clouds. IAH airport reporting hail, although nothing in immediate HOU area big enough to dent sheetmetal.

Not so up around Abilene. Interesting, as scattered severe storms near Midland, up near Amarillo, near Abilene, south of Dallas, and even a few marginally severe near Houston. The whole state is cool today.

BTW, the models tend to be wrong out past 5 days, but GFS shows
ominous lowering of pressures in the Bay of Campeche mid-late next week.

I am a Life Member of the VFW and a regular member of the American Legion.

NO ONE I now of at either post, no veteran I know will vote for Kerry. None I know can say his name without a lemon sucking face.

There's a lot of Ted Sampley's "I Support Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry" stickers on a lot of cars around my AO. And I'm proud to say I caused 'em to be there.

They'll have to do until the " I Wouldn't Piss On John Kerry If He Was On Fire" stickers become available.

Call me a baby-killin' war criminal you silver spoon French Massachussetts Kennedy DemoSleaze POS liberal/commie/progressive shit-eatin' cretin.

Please - lock me in a closet with this guy for three minutes - problem solved.

I promise.

Charles:

sounds like you know a little too much about "decades-old fat cells" and "acid flash-backs".

what are you - some jazz guitarist?

Kerry addreses veterans at Portsmouth on Memorial day (cartoon)

#25 struan al kufr

NO ONE I now of at either post (VFW), no veteran I know will vote for Kerry.

"Ditto" in my corner of the world.

#30 Rayra

Exactly.

I want to post some sobering immigration reading. I might as well post on this strand since both Kerry and Bush (the Dems and the Republicans) are CONSPIRING to ignore the immigration problem. Don't laugh. They conspired in '92 to ignore the national debt, and it took the Perot candidacy to make it an issue. As sure as shootin' the next third party will be anti-immigration. No, I don't mean 'immigration reform', and I don't mean 'the undocumented worker problem'. I mean Anti-Immigration. I would vote for that.

[Link: www.azconservative.org...]

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

Before I left to come back to the States I got in a conversation with our Command Chief. He was amazed that I thought Kerry was a bigger POS than Clinton or Carter. I showed him a few things about Kerry's voting record.I'm pretty sure I made an impact on his view of Kerry (who he already held nothing but contempt for).

Another immigration horror story I'll post here since it reporsents a Kerry failure -- and a Bush failure.

How fast are they colonizing us? Mario Obledo, founding member of the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), (the most anti-American group in the US today), and former California Secretary of Health/Welfare, speaking on the Tom Leikus radio talk show said, "We're going to take over all the political institutions in California. In five years the Hispanics are going to be the majority population of this state." Caller: "You also made the statement that California is going to become a Hispanic state and if anyone doesn't like it they should leave - did you say that?" Obledo: "I did. They ought to go back to Europe."

[Link: www.washingtondispatch.com...]

#32 You mean Danforth?

The guy that headed up commisar Reno's second ''investigation'' of the murder of American citizens at Waco and BATF / FBI coverup of the acts? The guy that rubber stamped the FBI's version of events and proved that republicans, like democrats, in the federal government will always protect the government and over the citizens.

Very Beltway, very establishment, another liberal internationalist to the UN. Isn't he a an ordained Episcopal priest?

All I remember about him is that he was "Mr. Affirmative Action". I always thought of him as a rich white boy (from Purina I think) who got his and decided to be noble and volunteer little white guys to get passed over/not hired so he could be a media darling.

I despise people like that. He's no better than a Kennedy, just has an "R" after his name.

But who cares - who listens to the UN anyhow?

#25 struan al kufr,

I've got one of those bumper stickers. Dude who gave it to me was MACVSOG Special Forces, is a 9th Dan.

Most dangerous man I've ever known (including myself), and I've spent a lifetime consorting with dangerous people. As you say, he wouldn't piss on Kerry if he were on fire.

For that matter, neither would I, though I might consider adding gasoline.

(Gotta be careful what you say about a Presidential Candidate, if you are on the Right. Although I gather that the Secret Service ain't too enamored of our haughty, French-looking friend :-)

#37 Iron Fist

(Gotta be careful what you say about a Presidential Candidate, if you are on the Right. Although I gather that the Secret Service ain't too enamored of our haughty, French-looking friend :-)

I'll let you know for sure when I go back to work! My teammates don't have much good to say about Kerry trips though.

I usually read, but I have to say this. My daughter and son-in-law are in the Air Force, they and their base would vote Nader before ever voting for Kerry. He's a traitor.

#37 Iron Fist

Although I gather that the Secret Service ain't too enamored of our haughty, French-looking friend :-)

A good friend from childhood did a DC gig for 3 years when Clinton was POTUS. He was military, but attached to the White House and worked close with the secret service staff. They loathed him from what he said. Hillary has alot of skeletons in the closet as well.

#37 Iron Fist

Nothin' fancy 'bout me - just a Mud Marine that could align the front sight blade in the aperture with pretty good regularity - ran when he could, fought when he had to.

Musta done somethin right -I came home after 26 mos with all my pieces - all the physical pieces.

Only dangerous when I've got be. Been around dangerous people my whole life too - best kind to be around - don't have to 'splain yerself. Civvies don't understand that it's the safest place to be.

My belt is in M1911A1 - never seen it fail. Loved the M-3 - nasty little piece of scrap iron. Remington Riot works just fine, too.

Iron Fist: So, is that you on the voice over for NIN "The Perfect Drug" meatbeat manifesto version? I swear it sounds just like you-- It's never Trent!! :)

/ANIHHILLATE

#13 Nukes of Hazzard: Wuv your nic! It works on so many levels! :)

Bush supporters rally before Kerry appearance

With John Kerry in town to court Minnesota's veteran vote, backers of President Bush are making sure their message isn't forgotten

Andre:

Yo! Pick a name yet?

Iron Fist:

Up here we say "I wouldn't piss in his mouth if his gums were on fire."

;-)

Myself:

Should have been "Andrew"

PIYF, ye stupid git.

Bush Leads With Veterans as Kerry Campaign Challenges (Update1)

The Bush campaign has 39,635 active veteran volunteers, spokesman Scott Stanzel said

#38 Reganite: When I still worked as a defens-con, the clearances I held forbade criticising a sitting president-- is it the same in the military?

twistarella, is this where the girls have migrated? ;-)

Before any more of you go off on the deep end regarding the CBS poll. I find the whole veteran portion of the results bogus.

Of 1,100+ people poled by telephone, 170 self identified themselves as Veterans. Veterans of what?

The detailed question results are not in the ballpark of any specific polling of serving and or served within the last decade Armed Forces members.

I believe any polling of post all volunteer armed forces, veterans and current serving personnel, would show well over 60% support for the President and way over 50% support for Iraqi war.
Mike

#48 twisterella
POTUS falls under the same rules as any other military superior. You can criticize, you surely can't slander or be insubordinate.

Hi Cam! Just so's you know, this is where the party is moving to-- Swampwoman and I can't deal with the dialup issues on the giant thread!
How I loathe John Kerry-- look, I can curse him in french and really screw up LGF Watch! Tete du merde, ecouler ta mere, cannard!!!

Who takes polls seriously?

The purpose of polls is to mold public opinion - not measure it.

They are occasionally fun to kick around.

#52 twisterella:

Yo twist! How's it going girl? I had to go downtown today and thought I was being smart by stopping in at the peeler bar and dodging the rush hour traffic. Man was I wrong. Spent an hour getting out of town. In a city of 300,000, I'm pretty sure every resident and their cousin was on the road at the same time...

BTW, I am drinking on all of the threads, so no-one feels left out.

;-)

#50 Mike Daley

Before any more of you go off on the deep end regarding the CBS poll. I find the whole veteran portion of the results bogus.

You're comment number 50, and you now deem to impart your wisdom on us before we "go off on the deep end"?

Pardon me for asking, but who the fuck are you?

I believe any polling of post all volunteer armed forces, veterans and current serving personnel, would show well over 60% support for the President and way over 50% support for Iraqi war.

Are you a vet? Do you know any?

Sorry, I guess I'm just supposed to be awed by your wisdom.

logger phd-- Gosh, I was right behind ann and armytramp-- mebbe they got lost? Swampwoman went for a stretch, but should be in transit.

reganite, no, no criticism. We couldn't even do it at work. I do think the compartment clearances we held were special, becuz some of the mil-customers said the military would love to recruit us.

#48 twisterella

Seeing as how this is the first day you met reaganite and he is being a gentleman (wait until you get to know him :-P )

I guess I will be the one to point out that it is 're A ganite.'

No biggy there gal, just don't want you to start getting suspicious packages in the mail or something ;-)

#56 twisterella
We're allowed to criticize our superiors, we just have to be real careful of how we do it. Insubordination is a crime...

we need to build a modern military,
******************************
Isn't that what Kerry spent most
of this time in the Senate voting
against?

Texas newspaper asks that Kerry apologize for use of vets' photos

"My father was a strong Bush supporter," Frank Lemos Jr. said in Thursday's editions of the Caller-Times. "If he was alive today, he wouldn't have done this."

twisterella,

Check yer mail, Dolly :-)

RWC, LOL! You of all people know why I was driven into the ignoble profession of mathematics!! My spelling sucks! :)

Yes, I got lost.

I am ok now.

Sniffle. Grin.

Twist:

Where the hell is everybody?

Cam,

Here!

(I had to log off --printer not working)

However, I will need to split soon to refuel. No food, no brew.

# 64 Cam

The freaky dude in the next thread over must surely be driving more than one to have a sceond over there (or third, or whatever ... )
:-)
:-)

#62 twisterella

It's OK girl :-) I just wanted to point it out to you in the most public way possible :-P

when that happens, just blame it on the alkeeehall

Top Ten Reasons Kerry Will Lose In '04

10. He shot dogs for fun in Viet Nam.

9. Channeling Herman Munster.

8. I didn't fall, that asshole knocked me down.

7. Hillary in '08.

6. He voted for everything, before he voted against it.

5. His picture is in the Viet Nam communist Hall of Fame.

4. Ted Kennedy, Al Gore and Howard Dean, yeearrrrgh!

3. German, French and UN troops rule.

2. Viet Nam Veterans Against the War.

1. Bush = Hitler.

#67 Buckaroo:

Still at work, bud?

#58 Reaganite

We're allowed to criticize our superiors, we just have to be real careful of how we do it. Insubordination is a crime...

I guess it counts even if you do qualify the criticism by prefacing with a "bless his heart" as in "bless his heart, when they wuz handin' out brains, he thought they said 'pains' and he said he didn't want any."

Kerry isn't delusional or disfunctional or on drugs, He's just lying. It's an ancient and honored political tactic when you have problems. Hitler did it, Stalin did it, Clinton did it.

Jeez. First Kerry claims some "unnamed" foreign leaders privately support him. Now "unnamed" veterans privately support him too.

I wonder if all these unnamed people privately get together and have big private I Love Kerry orgies.

Well, I read through about three quarters of the "You've Got Mail" thread, scratching my head and wondering what in the hell MST3K signified, feeling very out of it, and too embarrassed to inquire (didn't want my LGF CQ* to drop still further), when it dawned on me everybody was quoting lines from "Mystery Science Theater 3000!"

And then Google led me to this!

Standing at a window blankly staring out at nothing in particular, Martin Balsam asks himself:

"Am I still in this "Mitchell" movie?"

***

(Even more OT - A prize to twisterella if she can identify the provenance of these lines:

Who asks for me, the Shelley of my age,
Must lay his heart out for my bed and board.

;-)

Jamie Irons

(*Coolth Quotient)

Jamie Irons:

I'm no poetry expert, but a shot in the dark:

Snoop Doggie Dogg?

;-)

#74 Jamie Irons

Lord Byron

By any chance at all ???

ps - John F'in Kerry's new ad. At least it's truthful.

#71 SwampWoman

I guess it counts even if you do qualify the criticism by prefacing with a "bless his heart"

LOL, I'm an EOD Tech, my "criticisms" usual start "sir, you're full of shit..."

Twisterella:

You of all people know why I was driven into the ignoble profession of mathematics!! My spelling sucks! :)

And then there's some of us sad people who suck at both.....

Slightly OT, but has anyone else noticed how Andrew Sullivan's "The Daily Dish" is becoming dog chow? Yesterday, he tried to surmise why Bush's poll numbers have dropped among rural voters and he came up with -Iraqi prisoner abuse! Apparently, the images will haunt Andrew til the end of his days, so he thinks they're also haunting Bubba and the Midwest Farmer's Daughters.

Well, even though I am a Midwest Farmer's Daughter, he wasn't farming any more by the time I came along and I grew up in the city, so I don't pretend to have my finger on the pulse of rural America. But somehow, I think I know it slightly better than Randy Andy does. I seriously doubt that Wisconsin dairy farmers, the cotton growers of Alabama, and the ranchers of Wyoming are fretting overmuch because of pictures of Iraqis with panties on their heads.

I don't think it's occurred to either the conservatives or the libs inside the Beltway that maybe Duyba's poll numbers dropped off in May because plenty of people thought he was being too wussy. I damn near puked when I heard he was going to apologize to the friggin' King of Jordan. They'll be having snowmobile races in hell before I'll vote for Kerry, though.

OK....not Lord Byron by any stretch of the imagination.

But I know who it is......I know who it is ....:-)

Why Kerry Will Never Get the Veteran Vote.

Veterans understand the importance of histiry, of a record.

A Texas Soldier's Letter to Senator John Kerry

Oh yeah, and reaganite, my story is in the now-abandoned "We've Got Mail!" thread (to which I'm too lazy to link).

Luigi, if I pour you a double grappa, could you forget the pain of immigration and help us make fun of Kerry??

#77 Reaganite

LOL, I'm an EOD Tech, my "criticisms" usual start "sir, you're full of shit..."

I was wondering about y'all lifers fer a little bit. In My Day we purty much constantly criticized everybody but you wouldn't be a Murican if you didn't bitch and moan but then go do what needs to be done.

All right, time to get some grub. I expect lots of pithy badinage to savo(u)r when I return. . . .

Where is Iron Fist and grayp?

Oh, Jamie, I am so sorry-- I lost the last one and now RWC has beaten me before I've even begun! Could i have another, please?

Jamie Irons:

Darn you, now you have me going crazy trying to figure out who would have thought of themselves as the Shelley of their age,..., hmmm,..., Auden by any chance?

(If it is, I'll be disheartened, because I don't recognize the line:-)

#84 SwampWoman
We (EOD techs) are old school. Go figure, it's a Navy school. I once had a 2 star general so pissed off I thought he was going to have a coronary. Many officers aren't used to enlisted telling them "NO"!

We all bitch, some of us know how to bitch and win!

#79 Donna V.,

I've noticed that, too. I've even considered e-mailing Sullivan, and letting him know that he is as out of touch with "flyover" country as Howlin' Howell Raines is, but I didn't see any point.

Sullivan's a Brit, and doesn't really understand Americans to begin with. And the Americans he's around are all Damnyankee Liberals, for the most part.

He understands the culture of most of America about as thoroughly as I understand the culture of Ulan Bator.

He's aware we exist.

And that's about it.

#86 Ann,

I'm here, hon. I was just off writing a post to Donna V. :-)

# 70 Cam

Yeah -- actually doing this and that before wrapping up very soon ...

#79 Donna

Well, even though I am a Midwest Farmer's Daughter, he wasn't farming any more by the time I came along and I grew up in the city, so I don't pretend to have my finger on the pulse of rural America. But somehow, I think I know it slightly better than Randy Andy does. I seriously doubt that Wisconsin dairy farmers, the cotton growers of Alabama, and the ranchers of Wyoming are fretting overmuch because of pictures of Iraqis with panties on their heads.

Well, speakin' from my neck of the woods, most of us rural-type folks are laughin' about the whining about "torture" (not really thinking that lingerie on head qualifies and are thinkin' more in terms of torches applied to skin) and are purty pissed off about any apologies.

I don't think it's occurred to either the conservatives or the libs inside the Beltway that maybe Duyba's poll numbers dropped off in May because plenty of people thought he was being too wussy.

Exactly! Although somebody in Kerry's campaign apparently did and is tryin' to get him to butch up. Even if he appeared at rallies with testicles that he had to have pushed around in a wheelbarrow, I can't see me crossin' over to the Dark Side.

#91 Iron Fist:

Ok. This is the right bar. Twist, RWC, reaganite, logger phd-needing-food and a bunch of other good folks. Ok, it's all good.

#79 Donna V.,

Below is a reprint of a comment left on Econopundit (www.econopundit.com) some time ago by a correspondent. It concerns Sullivan and I find it to be quite on the mark:

I have to agree with [Bezowsky]. I only majored in economics in college before getting my JD, so I don't have the background of professional economists, but I find his stuff [Sullivan's] increasingly unhinged. I have read him since before the 2000 election, but find that I spend little time there anymore. Lately, it is just a quick scan to see if there might be one post worth reading out of the 4 or 5 he puts up and I'm gone.

As for his ethics, you got to be kidding. He has the strangest, most self-serving ethical and philosophical structure I have ever seen. He is a Catholic, except for the fact that he disagrees with the Church on almost everything. He is a conservative, except for the social and economic issues that he disagrees with.

I think he is the ultimate modern man per C S Lewis. Andrew puts God in the dock and judges Him. Sullivan likes drugs, so he decides they are morally acceptable. He succumbs to the temptation of unmarried sex with serial partners, so he decides it isn't sinful. He enjoys homosexual sex, so he decides that it isn't sinful. What he ends up with is a god who is nothing more than a deity who reinforces all of Andrew's rationalizations. Andrew has constructed his own god for his own reasons.

Sullivan apparently doesn't repent. He merely redefines sin to accord with his own earthly desires.

We read him for the same reason we read the papers and monitor the networks. He has influence and it is important to understand how other people are thinking.
- Stan Brown

re--74: from google-- I had to cheat-- Robert Lowell-- words for Hart Crane--

Since this appears to be a FNDT (at least the latest..), does anyone else think that Ann Coulter yearns for companionship...

NOT!

Hey, Iron Fist!

I asked the other day about what type of self-defense/offense courses you teach, just out of curiosity, but you had already left the building. (I ain't in no hurry to get my ass kicked, thank you very much.)

#97,

FNDT?

97 grumpy:

Why do you ask?

(:

#93 SwampWoman:

LOL. I'm heading to rural Ontario to visit my folks next week (or, as we say it "rurrrrl Ontario") and so called a friend to let him know. This friend, who - no word of a lie, sells crop insurance- and I started talking about the war etc., and I mentioned Abu Graigh, and asked what the folks back home were thinking about it. He pondered for a while, and then said, "Well, I guess most folks figure it's no worse than what happens when you send your kids to a college that isn't agricultural.". I laughed my ass off. I don't think people that actually work for a living could give two shits about it.

;-)

#99 addison

friday night drinking thread, although I haven't seen a funny picture of Rummy in a while and that used to be the true sign of the fndt.

“You’d be amazed at the number of active duty personnel ...

Ya, like maybe a number greater than 1.

OK, everybody's guesses are good ones (well, maybe not Snoop... ;-), but I'll narrow the field by saying both the poet referred to as "the Shelley of [his] age," and the poet who wrote the quoted poem, are twentieth century Americans.

And to narrow it still further, my father grew up in the house that had been built for the "Shelley," though, alas, my father's son is no Shelley...

;-)

Jamie Irons

# 99 add

F riday
N ight
D rinking
T hread

I presume ...

And to posit on grumpy's question -- I think Ann likes Ann a lot and likes the life of a pundit -- tho her hero is P. Schafly so you'd think she'd want a home life somewhere along the way ...

#99 addison

Sorry, I have to remember, PIMF. I meant to say FNDT™.

My bad...

#98 SwampWoman:

Anger and .45 ACP.

This is simply unbelievable. The New York Times are trying to block their sources.

"We seem to be moving to a potential conflict between First Amendment interests and those of national security," said prominent press freedom attorney Floyd Abrams.

The answer here is incredibly stupid and simple. Simply is thier a 1rst Amendment without a America?? My God were do these jerk offs make it possible to print what they want without Gov censorship. Have these people never heard the saying "God Country Family"? There is no Freedom without the US to shelter it.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

"We are supposed to be the watchdog of our government, not its lap dog, so we shouldn't be in bed with it testifying," Freeman said.

I wonder what above reference he would fit into if the Nazi's, Communist, or now the Islamist were in charge Hmmm?????

I hate to say it but old Putin in Russia actually maybe on the right track with his media. This just makes me sick that our education and training system for media and hollywood in this country cant even make people who at least have a little Biased in favor of the Country that invented founded protected then died to help spread in the world their beloved freedom of speech.

These kind of people deserve to live under a Dictator that will beat rape maim and kill them at the Dictators pleasure. Deport them now to somewere that knows how to treat such people. Sick really Sick our media today.

#97 Big Dog

Yep, I think that Ann Coulter is lookin' fer love and you just the one to fulfill her every desire. Go for it. It must be tough bein' all beautiful and not havin' somebody special to share it with.

Ahhhhh, love.

Um, wait a minute. Is there a Miz Big Dog that's gonna come after me with a meat cleaver for encouragin' you in your affections for Miz Coulter?

Well, Ann. If it is really you, you don't really need to ask.

But you can ask for my email addy, like whenever...

twisterella

What sort of maths do you do?

(We Brits always say "maths" as the singular, you know ;-)

Jamie Irons

SwampWoman,

I've been the most confirmed bachelor you can imagine for over twenty years.

I'm thinking of uncomfirming. Sometime soon.

Although I think if I was Ann Coulter, my biggest desire would be for a large medium-rare steak.

Well, you feed AC a good meal, she'll probably be yours. I'd back off the feed though once she reaches Oprah's "before" dimensions.

Addison: That's a great post. Yeah, I think Stan Brown nailed it.

Jamie Irons: Robert Lowell?

Sorry all but had to post:

Abu Graib Women's Prison

#101 Cam

Well, I guess most folks figure it's no worse than what happens when you send your kids to a college that isn't agricultural."

ROFLMAO! Cam, I could never top that. Never!

Iron Fist and addison on Sullivan

I'm glad you two brought this up. I find Andy very frustrating. I was reading his column today and he was going on about how Bush had the right idea about the WOT but he should "apologize" for everything he'd done wrong on Iraq, or words to that effect. That makes this quote

Sullivan apparently doesn't repent. He merely redefines sin to accord with his own earthly desires.

from the piece addison quotes all the more remarkable.

Can you imagine how the Dems would react were Bush to "apologize" for everything that hasn't gone excactly according to plan in a f***ing war!

And the other day some poll showed Sullivan's was the most widely read blog.

;-(

Jamie Irons

#116 Cam
You should be banned from all further drinking threads for that!

#116 Cam

Fixin' to put yer brand on them lil' heifers?

OK, I'm really goin' batty over this. Hart Crane????

#119 reaganite:

LOL. Sorry, couldn't resist.

;-)

Donna V.

You got it. It's from Lowell's "Words for Hart Crane."

(A lesser grade for levi from queens, who googled ;-)

My father was born in Hart Crane's house in Garrettville, Ohio. I was born across the street, which happens to be named "Freedom Street."

Jamie Irons

#120 SwampWoman:

Yee-haw! Just thought I'd stirr the pot a little...

;-)

Cam,

I guess I don't share the sense of humor. Right now I'm just still pissed about Abu Ghraib. Not because I feel overwhelming sympathy for those abused there, but because I can't believe that members of our professional armed forces were so incredibly stupid as to undermine our authority in such a shameful way.

Taking me to a porn site with stacked fat women and spread shot ads doesn't do anything other than remind me not to click on your links in the future.

[In case you haven't figured it out by now, I am pretty strongly against the objectification of women.]

The same mindset that minimizes the effect of the onslaught of porn advertizing scarcely cares about the wholesale slaughter of the innocents that continues unabated in the Sudan, while the UN promises to help.

Just as soon as they can get funding, of course.

I think I'll just drink for a while. When I need to piss, trust me - I'll find the target.

#107 Ann

Heh. I got the anger. No .45, though.

Cam can escape banning if he agrees to post some new pix to add to the "Thousand Styles of Rummy" collection.

#98 SwampWoman,

I teach Isshinryu Karate and a variant of Arnis (Filipino martial arts), as well as advanced cruelty and pressure-point (Kyushu jitsu) fighting :-)

I'm a mid-level instructor at one of the best dojos in the country. I hold a 3rd Degree Black Belt in Isshinryu, and a 2nd in Arnis. I also train in Tai Chi and Baugua (two Chinese internal arts; I am not an instructor for those arts, merely a student).

I also specialize in weapons, and can fight with varying degrees of skill with everything from the thigh bone of an antelope to belt-fed automatic weapons.

I teach one class every two weeks to kyu ranks, and on Sundays we have open-floor. I work with my serious students then, usually. If one of my real students (I only think of a very few people as my students; the rest are students at the dojo. There is a difference) needs extra help, I’ll make myself available when they need me, if my work schedule permits.

Does that answer your question, Doll?

I am what I represent myself as.

#110 Grumpy:

Well, Ann. If it is really you, you don't really need to ask.

No, Ann is not "The Ann".

It would be too cool if she would show up, though.

Maybe Ann Coulter is really Right Wing Conspirator...

#125 really grumpy big dog Johnson:

Apologies. I didn't realize that it would offend so much. I was trying to be light-hearted since this is the FNDT, and it obviously rubbed you the wrong way. If you peruse my posts about the Abu Ghraib issue from when it happened, I think you will find that I was as outraged as you are.

I will try to be more circumspect in the future.

However, I don't feel that amusing pics voluintarilt posted on a site neccessarily counts as a "porn site".

Regardless, my apologies.

Accepted.

OK, I swear I just now spotted levi from queens' post 96 - I honestly came up with Lowell and Crane all on my own.

Since I didn't use Google I should win the Friday Night Drinking Thread Poetry Award - a lifetime's supply of Scotch (which would be most appropriate for anything having to do with either poet. And in special honor of Lowell, I would like Dr. Irons to send me a prescription for Lithium - because I'll need it by the time this election cycle is over:-D

#129 Ann

Maybe Ann Coulter is really Right Wing Conspirator...

I've drank in person with RWC, he ain't near as pretty as Ann Coulter!

#131 really grumpy big dog Johnson:

Accepted.

Thank you. Now DRINK. (but not so much that you have to, you know, pee...)

;-)

# 130 Cam

FYI I clicked out of idle curiousity and ran into my office's site blocker (!!!!!!!!)

No harm -- but a warning in the future would be best ...

OK, 1615 here -- as we are prone to say -- "Aloha!"

(Maybe be on later at home ... )

I cannot avoid the unavoidable, Cam. Let's really get down and boogie now.

The weekend is short, and the night is long...

#136 really grumpy big dog Johnson:

LMAO

132-Donna V. How much scotch is alifetime's supply?
X quarts * y years + ?

not + sb =

I see Coulter's name around these parts tonight........

Did anyone else catch her piece at Townhall via Powerline?Holy Guacamole*!!! I nearly hit the floor laughing so hard....

*spouse of Hazzard possess ultimate guac recipe. I am proud.

#133 reaganite:

I need to continue to deflect this... who haven't you got drunk with?

Cheers!

(I'm in the mood for my LGF song!)

#125 Big Dog

I dunno, Big Dog. I view porn and NFL football about the same way. They all makin' a livin' with their bodies, but the NFL players get bigger salaries. (Not that I am a fan of either NFL football or porn.)

I did feel kinda betrayed when I busted my ass and put myself through college while putting in 40 + hour work weeks and takin' care of the kids, only to find out that I would have earned more money AND gotten a better return on investment (ROI) if I had invested in some really scary-sized implants and went to work at Hooters. But my personality just ain't right for it.

#141 Ann
I've been drunk in a lot of places, with a lot of people. Trust me though, RWC is not a hot right wing chick!

132-Donna V. How much scotch is alifetime's supply?

Oh, levi, don't ask me to do math (or maths)! I was an English and History major. Math makes my head hurt!

I was thinking there would be no need to make any elaborate calculations. I would like to just be able to call an 800 number at any time and say "Let's see - next week is the Democratic Convention, plus I'm having a root canal done. Better bring over a couple of cases - I'll need a stash."

Donna V.

We'll have to discuss the lithium question in a more private forum; this Friday night drinking group is a great bunch, but I worry about their ability to maintain confidentiality.

By the way, in talking about lithium with my patients, I often point out to the more technically-minded that lithium, as an element, holds an exalted position, as it is one of only three (the others being H, with one proton, and He, with two), that was created in the Big Bang, all others being the products of later stellar nucleosynthesis.

;-)

You do win a case of Bruichladdich, that fine Islay single malt, for your fine efforts (sans Google, no less).

But you have to come to Napa to collect!

Jamie Irons

I'm listening to Derek and the Dominoes' Layla album right now, and quite honestly...

If a jihadi was to send me over to the next dimension, please let this one album be there to greet me.

Perfection is not a state of mind.

Cam, I thought it was funny as hell until my eyes melted and dribbled down my cheeks at the horror of it.

#128 Iron Fist:

Does that answer your question, Doll?

I am what I represent myself as.

Yep, when you was talkin' to Leah about self-defense the other day, hadn't caught your disciplines. My ex-sister-in-law had a 2nd degree black belt in some sort of Korean karate. She always wanted to give me lessons but we never got around to it and I've lost touch with her.

Dr. Irons:

Sir, I raise my glass of Drambuie to you:-)

Maybe Charles should post a disclaimer: LGF Drinking Threads may endanger your liver.

{Pops open a beer}

#143 reaganite:
Ok, busted on RWC.

I am trying to create a rumor about anyone else that you have not gotten drunk with.

Are you ready for some Toby Keith's LGF song?

#146 Big Dog Johnson

If a jihadi was to send me over to the next dimension, please let this one album be there to greet me.

If I get sent to hell by some jihadi, Barry Manilow AND Billy Ray Cyrus will probably be the only 2 CDs in my dimension.

One wonders where the 40% come from.

#151 Ann

Are you ready for some Toby Keith's LGF song?

What? You'll have to fill me in!

#151 Ann

I've seen short skirts, we got high-techs
Blue-collar boys and rednecks (yeehaaaa!)
And we got lovers, lots of lookers
And I've even seen dancing girls and hookers
And we like to drink our beer from a mason jar

#149 Donna V.,

Hon, ya should have some of what I'm drinkin'.

Anything under 100 proof is water.

[Growl]

SwampWoman

If I get sent to hell by some jihadi, Barry Manilow AND Billy Ray Cyrus will probably be the only 2 CDs in my dimension.

I don't know about his music, but I heard Barry Manilow interviewed, and he came across as quite intelligent, funny and self-effacing...

Kind of like some of the folks in this here swamp...

;-)

Jamie Irons

#153 its jake

One wonders where the 40% come from.

The words, thin air, come to mind.

152 SwampWoman

What, no Paul Anka? He slices like a f***ing hammer.

Peruse at your own [national] risk...

[Link: www.allofmp3.com...]

#157 Jamie

I don't know about his music, but I heard Barry Manilow interviewed, and he came across as quite intelligent, funny and self-effacing...

Well, I might not mind him talkin' to me for all eternity, but darned if I can listen to Mandy and Looks Like We Made It for the long haul.

I could listen to Patsy for a long, long time.

#160 really grumpy big dog Johnson

How much per song is it?
:p

RIP, it won't set you back as much as you might think.

#163 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Free? I couldn't find any info. And this dial-up connection makes it difficult to flip through the site.

All right, I'm back, and sated

(scrolling through thread now)

#154 reaganite

And all. I humbly nominate this song as the Official LGF drinking thread anthem:

I smile at the accepting spirit of the lyrics, and the accepting, inclusive spirit of LGF:

Yep. I love this blog (bar)

And there is this burly bouncer at the end of the song...

Ann

I agree, great anthem for the FNDT.

logger phd

Whoo-hoo, another drinker.

Awwww, Swampwoman, play the whole thang!

RIP, it is definitely not free.

But the price is pretty good and fair, IMHO.

Ann, you're in Fairfax? I have a couple of friends who live there: the husband teaches at Centreville, and teh wife at . . . Sunrise Elementary, I think it's called.

Iron Fist: I am afraid to ask what you're drinking. I took a swig of poteen liquor (Irish moonshine) in the West of Ireland once, and I saw the flames of hell, Satan and all of his 99,999 minions up close and personal in one big flash. I'm still amazed that I didn't rocket straight off into the Milky Way.:-)

Kewl

woo hoo its the FNDT!

shabbat shalom to everyone.

l'chaim!

/drinking tasty disarrono amaretto, and trying not to think of the frikkin' italians...

#170 lp:

So what did you have for dinner?

Yes, in Fairfax.

Football bat out.

Dang, look at the time! I haven't (hangs head in shame) fed the horses yet. Better run! Oh, I heard that the West Nile Virus is active in 19 counties again in Florida. I better get some prophylactic skeeter medicine before I go outside.

#174 Ann

Ummm, uhhh, I confess that it was unhealthy "convenience" food. I knew that if I went home that'd be it for the evening.

How long have you been posting at LGF? I don't recognize you, so perhaps you were dormant for a while --or emerged while I was recently dormant. (Cicada imagery rears its cute, red-eyed head.)

Hedge,

ID please.

{aint no minors allowed in this joint}

Just a soda water with lime for me please.

And maybe an advil...or two

RIP Ford

okay okay...I've heard you've been crackin' down on us for not ID-ing ourselves...is it really true that it is "rude" not to include your email?

#168: twisterella: Missed that. Swampwoman was right!

#176: lp: Not very long. Just a couple of months. I wish I had found these folks much sooner.

#177: I vouch for hedge. He may look young, but he is of age. Um, unless he is in law school at age 20...

Swampwoman: Just got done with mine-- this year we had West Nile in the 4-way.

Ann, evariste is fine-- I gotta get his JC papers done this week-- I so want Smarty Jones to win the Belmont, but I'm afraid to want it too bad, cause I'll jinx him. *sigh*, I don't know if there can ever be another Triple Crown winner.

Has anyone else seen the "the-fang" photo of Sasha?

I have not seen it before just now? Is she back??!!

Cute as all get-out. . . .

#159 and any other fans of celebrity outtakes.

Buddy Rich. a**hole deee-LUX!!!!

And you can read along when he drops "F" bomb after "F" bomb. Good stuff.

hedge,

Rude, not that I'm aware of. At night, on my dial-up I have no webpage or email address. At work, I've got a web address attached that gives a history of were my nic comes from. I rarely give me e-mail address out. Trolls can do some nasty stuff with that. No worries.

Law school? Where? If you don't mind answering. Other wise, again, no worries.

Ann

If you say so, I think I'll take your word. But then again, aren't you a newby?

Waaaaay OT, but a coworker told me this past week that he read that Bob Dylan is going to do ads for Victoria's Secret.

Anyone else hear about this? If it's true, the times really are a-changin'.

Since commercials should be topical and Dylan is known for his songs of social protest, he could put a pair of VS panties on his head and sing "The Ballad of Abu Ghraib."

If he put Mary Travers' panties on his head, he'd look like he was wearing a burka.

#179 hedge,

Anybody got a problem with that's got a problem with me.

I'm pretty sure RIP Ford recognizes that.

I leave my email off for a number of reasons. It is cool to get "Rock on!" emails, and even "I hate your guts and wish you would die!" emails can actually be encouraging, but after a while, you get swamped.

I can't imagine being in Charles' shoes. I'll give my e-mail out to people I want to talk to backchannel, but that is it.

It ain’t cause I've gotanything against you Guys and Dolls, or even the Trolls.

Love me or hate me, I evoke strong responses.

The email gets overwhelming very quickly.

I’ve had it happen before on other forums.

logger phd

What are you talking about? What did I miss?

Donna, Donna, Donna...

So unkind, so true...

Donna V.

Bob Dylan and Victoria's Secret are so incongruent together, not to mention unsexy.

BTW, at this point I don't think you need to worry about being OT. ;-)

#187 RIP Ford

A photo of Sasha up top that I had not seen before. In fact, I kind of shuddered at first because she's supine, dead-looking.

Try several refreshes and see if she comes up.

Wow, just after I posted that, I got "the-fang" again! Eerie!

Thousand Sons, how are you doing?

. . . reminds me of my stepbrother's cat, Sophie. She likes being scratched under her chin.

Iron Fist,

No problem here, sir. :P
LOL

I was actually asking for a Driver's License form of ID, like the door guy at a bar. Whoops! That's what I get for making piss poor jokes.

Donna V

Are you going to be at the meetup on June 17th in Chi-town?

#188 big dog johnson:

Yeah, after a few drinks, I got this attitude coming on,...,:-)

185 donnav

yea, I heard that too...I vote for the ballad of abu g-rab.

RIP

I go to a private law school in L.A. with architecture by Frank Gehry. (enough clues?) I never ever give out my email precisely because of the troll hazard (so you better write it down now if you want it). and why'd you ID me? Do you think I'm a newbie? I actually have been around for a long time, I just haven't posted much until recently because school takes up all my time.

RIP Ford: yes, I am and I'm looking forward to seeing you and the other lizardoid minions there:-)

RIP, Iron Fist I guess my posts are too innocuous to get anyone to flame me. In any case, I like to keep the link open, since it gives me a rhetorical card to play with cowardly trolls who offer no e-mail addresses 9haven't had to do that yet).

So no one else saw that little photo of Sasha?

Very cute. . . .

RIP:

Yes, more of a newbie than hedge. Only a few months for me.

Grateful, though.

Well, welcome Ann!

Good to have a bigger LGF family.

Ummm, you single? ;-p

okay, y'all, I have a drinking thread story:

last night (well, actually it was this morning after the mormon thread) I had the strangest dream. It was an LGF party, we all went to Charles' place (RWC had the keys...imagine that!) and everyone was there: RIP, RWC, twist, zulu, zorky, SwampWoman, NYNana, even reaganite (there were like 20 of us or something). we were all way partying down, had a minor troll invasion, promptly hammered, continued to party down...charles had really cool toys...and a lizard...you guys were so much FUN! And I did nice and cleaned up charles' place 'cause we kinda trashed it.

#199 logger phd

I'm not pulling up anything, sorry.

#197 Donna V.

I'm looking forward to it as well. I would love to put some faces to these posts.

#196 hedge

I was just giving looking to use that line in the FNDT and you popped in at the right time... Gehry, yeah I know what you are talking about. I used to be an architect. We had to study him.

zorkmidden:

Yikes! It's true! Dylan's selling undies! Just when you thought the world couldn't get any weirder:

Tangled Up in Boobs

Logger phd: Sasha disappeared the day before Charles' big move. I think he's been going back to look for her at the old place, but no luck. :(

ha ha ha Swampwoman-- My chores are DONE!!

Ann: This is my Toby Keith song-

Whiskey Grrrl -- In the video, they even drink Jack Daniels Black, like me!

Arrrg! A drinking thread & I'm stuck at work! Time to seethe!

#202 hedge

What a dream! So was the lizard an iguana? Was Sasha there, bless her? How did the trolls get in?

"Troll in the dungeon!" --Harry Potter

hedge, LOL, is that why I'm dragging today? ;-)

Welcome, Ann!

#202 Hedge

You were not dreaming!

#205 twistarella

Yeah, I read that when it happened after the move. I am also expecting that she will get her own thread if/when she's reunited.

Seeing that new photo of her broke my heart.

#205 twisterella,

Still water, hon.

Checked your mail? I thought ya might be interested in seeing me in my native environment.

Goodnight, babe.

Time for me to feed.

#198 logger Phd

Yeah, I kinda figure the same way although on one of the agricultural forums, I did get a guy followin' me through cyberspace askin' for my hand (amongst other parts).

RIP

at first I really liked the campus, I thought the architecture created a soothing atmosphere...I'm very much a symmetry freak...

but the guy absolutely failed in terms of acoustics...there are several classrooms where you literally cannot hear a thing unless the professor has a microphone. there are these weird vaulted ceilings above the front of the room that somehow ensnare the sound and refuse to let it emanate to our ears....

Ann,

Welcome aboard. Mixed drinks at the bar and the keg it out back.

hedge,

LOL
I would love to hear you describe what we all look like in your dreams. I know I picture everyone by their posts, I guess I'll find out how close in a couple of weeks for some.

Donna V., from your link

But I think the most likely motive for Dylan is exposure. It's a real struggle for older rockers to remind the world that they still exist.

All he would have to do is recirculate the "Everybody Must Get Stoned" song (I forget the real title). It's always appropriate for westerners and the Arabs love it.

Hi NY Nana :-)

#208 Zorkala

You were hilarious! Remember the oath we all took not to reveal what went on?

I still am exhausted from taking the red eye! Oy! That damned pot of chicken soup I schlepped got quite a going over both at JFK and LAX. When I took out a copy of our lizardoid master's group photo, from that article, the guy at security was so nice! He must be an LGF fan.

Next time, you all come to the right coast!

By the way, Judith, cba, and anyone else apropos here: I hope we get to start Winnipeg meet-ups. They would be especially fun in the winter: comfort food, lots of comfort food!

Thorn Tree in the Garden

So painful. One of the stories of my life, alas.

NY Nana, LOL!! Ok, then, I won't mention a word about your bellydancing. BTW, the chicken soup was dreamy!

#192 zorkmidden Um feh!

Sorry...stepped away to tend the BBQ.

Doing better. Still a little hung over, but hangin' in there...

T: Dont jinx the horse..(I stopped using his actual name LAST TIME and he WON and so now Im superstitious and wont use his name) and I think Im probably in need of Meds..cause of this redic. Supersitition. I forgot what I was wearing when HE..won last time or Id wear it again..Geeze....

YOu all..Im a drunk or tispsy or whateveryoucallit. It takes one single real beer, which is what I bought and drank, to do it..and it ***all YOUR fault..that im so out of it right now...E Gad..NOW I remember why I dont drink...LOLOLOLOL

What kind of fa..cock..ta brain chemistry DO I have that one single drink does it for me?

Jeeze, another party and another good time that had to be retold to me the morning after. Damn alcohol.

Beer. The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.

#205 Twisterella

ha ha ha Swampwoman-- My chores are DONE!!

Well, you know how it is. I was hopin' maybe Aliens (space or central America, I don't care) would beam down and help unload the feed out of the back of the truck on account of those damn muscle spasms but noooooooo. Just had to suck it up but I only carried 100 # of feed out to the barn and put off the rest until tomorrow.

Good night All!

12:08 am here on the east coast. I normally don't see 10:00pm.

twisterella, hug that baby colt evariste, and I will be here to see the Belmont with "ya'll" tomorrow evening.

#222 Leah

"Back where I grew up, we had a saying about women like that. 'Let's date 'em!'" --paraphrasing Woody on Cheers

;-)

Iron Fist: I wuvved it!! You look exactly like I imagined !! But now Ann will be jealous, and want one too!

Jamie, I failed badly-- Iwent off into the LGF stacks to find the last poetest you gave me, and I can't find it!! Could you find it for me please?

I'm getting sick of Kerry, and the zombie is not around. Mebbe I can get into a pickup argument at WofC, or perhaps I'll head down to the Chompsy thread and see if Amritas is there-- later mes amis

Ann,

G'night.

Good Night, Ann!!!

#225 Ann,

Geezesus, hon!

You hit that nail on the head.

I'm outta here too, Guys and Dolls.

Love ya all.

See ya tomorrow.

John Kerry's Secret Fan Club:

'... active duty personnel were privately telling him, “We need a change.” '

Do we get a Decoder Ring?

I read somewhere this week that he went to a veterans' event and 90% of the men there turned their backs on him, protesting his vicious slander of our boys in Vietnam.

twistarella, i doubt that I look like you picture me! ;-)

Sheesh, everybody is leaving? Is it my perfume?

If anyone is still standing, cheers!

'Nite FeFist!

#220 zorkalah Um feh!

We'll just keep that a secret between us!

I am so glad you liked the soup.

#205 Twisterella

Thanks for the heads up on Sasha. Whenever I see her pictures up, I wonder...maybe Charles will have a wonderful bit of news for us? Oh, I hope so!

It takes one single real beer, which is what I bought and drank

Leah, I take it you didn't have a Miller Lite, then:-)

How do you make it though the Seder dinner - don't you have to have at least a couple of glasses of wine at a Seder?

"Why is this night different from all other --- er, somebody wake up Leah!"

:-D

g'nite to all the right-coasters...

nynana -- were you really in l.a.?? did I miss an LGF reunion?

zorkmidden Um feh!

Cheers!

Iron Fist,

G'night as well.

People are dropping like flies.

RIP Ford, LOL, this is pretty pathetic, a party of two...

Leah, you better be drinking that beer reeeaaal slow, we need more people here.

Donna V.

Any idea what time you will make it to the meetup? I'm supposed to meet andthenblammo! and maybe evariste around 3-ish, but I suspect that we will be the only ones there for a couple of hours.

#231 Lady of Shallot (ylreveb)

Speaking of the devil, here is something from one of his not so secret fans ,and equally odious:Soros: Abu Ghraib = September 11

Billionaire financier George Soros, the financial power behind a number of anti-Bush movements on the left, today directly compared the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal in Iraq with the terrorist attacks of September 11.

"The picture of torture in Saddam's prison was a moment of truth for us," Soros said Thursday morning in Washington at a meeting of the liberal activist group Campaign for America's Future.

"I think that those pictures hit us the same way as the terrorist attack itself," Soros continued, "not quite with the same force, because in the terrorist attack, we were the victims. In the pictures, we were the perpetrators and others were the victims."

"But there is, I'm afraid, a direct connection between those two events, because the way President Bush conducted the war on terror converted us from victims into perpetrators."

The audience, made up of left-wing activists from around the country, broke into enthusiastic applause.

Soros also outlined his theory that a doctrine of "American supremacy" took hold inside the Bush administration due to the influence of a group of "neoconservative" ideologues. Soros said the United States went to war in Iraq on false pretenses, "because there was no connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda" and "there were no weapons of mass destruction," but what he finds "most galling" is the idea that the United States "went to war in Iraq for the sake of the Iraqi people."

At the meeting, which was dubbed the "Take Back America" conference, Soros was introduced by Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who told the crowd that "we need people like George Soros, who is fearless and willing to step up when it counts."...........

What a piece of shit! If this was already posted, sorry! Too many threads, too little time!

OK, back to partying! :)

RIP Ford, (and all other interested) I have copied the aforementioned photo of Sasha (© Charles Johnson) and I can e-mail it to you if your like --'tis cute!

Well, I'm still awake (although not standing). After this drink, I'm calling it quits though.

My 21 year old self would be ashamed of me for not going the distance. On the other hand, my 21 year old self would have voted for Kerry. My 21 year old self was a knucklehead.

239 zorkmidden Um feh!

LOL,

It would not be the first time. I've made an ass of myself trying to keep a thread alive on a Friday night. Looks like I'll have to start trying/drinking harder.

Mission accepted.

Logger PhD, my mental image is one o' them Monty Python loggers with an eddication, although you is an XY, ain'tcha?

Iron Fist I kinda picture as a shaved-headed bulgy-muscled kinda guy.

NY Nana I picture as a very, very sweet lady grabbing people and saying "eat, EAT You're too THIN!" and taking care of everybody.

Cam....well, I can't get past that nekkid Twister thing.

Leah I picture as a petite little lady with great big ol' eyes.

I think that those pictures hit us the same way as the terrorist attack itself..

You think wrong.

#243 Donna V.

My 21 year old self was a knucklehead.

If I had access to a time machine, I'd go back in time and kick my 21 year old selfs ass.

"Aw , c'mon cheer up! Here's some vitamin C, heres a gun...get out there!!"

#237 Hedge

g'nite to all the right-coasters...

nynana -- were you really in l.a.?? did I miss an LGF reunion?

I'll never tell, and Zorkala is sworn to silence...if I said that St. Antonio was the furthest west I've ever been, and only to change planes from Mexico City, would that give anything away? Mexico City may be further west, but I don't know!

This right coaster will be up for a while.

Donna: Absoluetly do NOT make it thru a Passover Dinner in the regular way. ALWAYS ended up about 15 minutes after the first glass in the Living Room on the Couch...

We tried several ways for me to get thru Passover. ONE..way..Let the first glass be all four glasses. THAT didnt work. Ended up on the couch. Next, we tried..a sip or two each time..By the third sip..I was on the Couch. Last try and the only one that worked..Dipped my pinky into the glass and put a drop of wine on my tongue (Im not kidding..thats how I got thru Passover). Isnt that redic or what.

I actually LIKE the taste of liquor..But..its hopeless...LOLOLOL...I must break down the drink really fast..Im soooo like OUT OF IT..right now. .With ONE stinkin drink of beer.

____________

Looking for girls like me for..YOU KNOW??? Thats no good. Girl cant even participate..and that isnt any fun. Shoooootttt...(so to speak--)

OH..Im getting silly which happens when I get tipsy......

RIP Ford: I'll be there at about 3 as well. I'll go to work for a few hours in the morning, but then I'll catch the train down there. I intend to have a few and I don't want to have to drive back to Brew Town.

I suppose other people will trickle in as their work day ends.

Zorkmidden I kinda think of as a character from my big fat greek wedding, although I'm not sure if she is the aunt from the travel agency or the buxom cousin.

Unless she is a he, yikes!

logger phd

Pass it along.

Thousand Sons,

LOL

If I may be so bold:
Would you mind telling the peanut gallery the meaning of your nic? If not, no worries.

#253 Ploome

Yeah, that was all over NPR today along with various "theories" most of which were not complimentary about one particular political party.

#245 SwampWoman

Nice try! ;-) E-mail me if you want a photo. . . . I'm too gentlemanly to send one out to anyone unless by request.

The "logger" refers to logistics, not forestry. It does humourously throw others off though. . . .

Leah, if it's any consolation, I could get easily, totally sh*tfaced on that Manischewitz. Love it!

SwampWoman,

I'm not sure if she is the aunt from the travel agency or the buxom cousin.

LOL! How terrible! Nothing like them, I assure you, even though I'm a girl. :-)

BTW, my image of you is that you keep alligators as pets.
;-D

Donna V.

Perhaps we'll be on the same train in from Milwaukee?

How come I never met a woman like Leah when I was single?

:-(

I picture SwampWoman as a suntanned FL gal weilding weaponry against crocodiles.

IronFist is definitley the shaven musclebound type

RIP Ford I picture as, well, damn I can't get Prez. Ford outta my mind.

NYNana is your nicest jewish grandmother type, always with a pot o' chicken soup.

RWC I imagine as a tall, dark, handsome, and wearing a very tasteful suit (in a dark tone -- much more presidential than that bannana blazer and pink tie Kerry was wearing the other day).

I always imagined charles as young with long dark hair, but in my dream he was much older (that was really weird, I might add).

Twistarella I imagine is a petite fiery blonde curly hair type who smells a bit like horses.

Ann I imagine fully locked and loaded -- Laura Croft in the flesh.

RIP Ford:

So it'll be you, andthenblammo! and perhaps evariste and me for a couple of hours? Hmmm, can't complain about the man-woman ratio there:-D

(Although I am looking forward to meeting my fellow lizardoid ladies too:-)

And then there's me, eyeballs pokin' up out of the water as I swim slowly along, cruising the waters for sustenance, then I climb out on the bank to get a little sun.

Gettin' Some Sun

I always have a big ol' smile.

Leah, you can use grape juice.....

SwampWoman I picture as an older version of the cover of Gator Bait II: Cajun Justice

Still recurring nightmares from my video store gig of '91.

#259 Hedge

I picture SwampWoman as a suntanned FL gal weilding weaponry against crocodiles

Hedge, I'm shockedthat you would even think of me as molesting one o' them big ol dinosaur leftovers in any way. That would be illegaland y'all know I operate strictly within the law. As I interpret it.

SwampWoman, you're actually one of the characters in a game I'm designing.

Swampwoman likes oatmeal and bourbon. Not necessarily together. Much to her husband's chagrin, Swampwoman insists on feeding the "poor, hungry, wet" alligators in the nearby pond. Townspeople have sworn that on many a dark and stormy night, they see lights by the pond and the smell of boiled goat hangs ominously in the air. They say that's definitely a good night for everyone to stay home and eat popcorn. Everyone except Swampwoman, that is...

Swampwoman-- I just looked at a picture of Iron Fist, and well, you are incredibly correct!!!
I see you as Gretchen Wilson (sings Redneck Womyn) with a billed cap and ripped jeans, swinging her leg over a mud-plastered ATV (yup, that's in the video, too!)
Logger phd said he'd send me a pic, but it is probably of Sasha, not him!

Did someone ask where Thousand sons' nic came from? From the Warhammer 40K Role-playing game-- too kewl.

I went down and threw rocks at Chompsky and I 'm not in the mood for WofC-- this place is like a giant playground!

Leah, d'ya think I'd hex Him if I look up his JC 5X (five generation jockey club pedigree)?

Woo hoo. Looks like most lizardoids are still chipper :-)

Whew,

I had some serious difficulty getting LGF to pop back up. I actually went to LGF watch out of boredom. Let's hope that never happens again!

Hell, RIP Ford, you'll be coming from Milwaukee too? Yeah, we could very well get on the same train, although I'm unsure at this point which one I'll be taking - depends on how much crap I can clear out of my inbasket that morning.

264 SwampWoman

I only picture you protecting your flock o' sheep from the hungry hungry gators.

leah

my husband has the same problem -- one drink and he's DRUNK. Always passing out on passover (that reminds me of my favorte beer, HeBrew's motto -- don't pass out, pass over).

I'm training him though...this year he managed to stay awake by drinking 1 glass of wine and 3 glasses of grape juice.

#268 RIP Ford,

It happened to me too. But I did not succumb to evil urges.

Ed Moran,

You never met a girl like that, because you went to UT.
:P

RWC

Damn, that dog is too damn cute to pass up. The timing could not have been worse. Oh well, I think I'm going to go for it.

hedge,

LOL
I'm a little younger then Gerald. I'm 27.

Donna V.

I'm really looking forward to this meetup. Now, if I could heard these cats that are my fellow Texians, I'd meet them too.

Just recently, Swamp Woman's gator friends have started invading Texas. I first noticed this about ten years ago when alligators started showing up in Dallas area lakes. The "experts" claimed they swam up the Trinity river. Your lizards block our roads

Then manatees showed up in Houston bayous.

Then the pink flamingos.

I know what it is. Florida has Palm Beach county (where I have been drunk) and confused voters, and dhimmicrap senators like Graham.

But you can't come here

Twisterella: Im so scared he wont win...that anything is a jinx to me. OH..I hope I didnt just jinx him myself..LOLOL...Im gonna be so crazy tomorrow.

YOU GUYS...SHAME on ya. Wanting to take advantage of a girl who is totally out of it. Geeze..Thats like doing it on you OWN. What fun is that..OR is it? LOLOLOL I dont know.....

RIP Ford, I have sent an e-mail, I hope. (Love the spam control device!)

#253 RIP Ford abu drinking thread is here

Would you mind telling the peanut gallery the meaning of your nic?

Well...I actually have one thousand sons. They all have paper routes and made me rich! HA HA!

Seriously tho'. Its meaning is two fold:

The short version is I used to play a lot of Warhammer 40k. and always liked the "Thousand Sons" chapter.

The long winded, intellectual version is from my love of Shakespere. I did Falstaff once in high school. The Bard had a great quote about sherry and on the drinking thread I think this quote is appropriate:

A good sherris sack hath a two-fold
operation in it. It ascends me into the brain;
dries me there all the foolish and dull and curdy
vapours which environ it; makes it apprehensive,
quick, forgetive, full of nimble fiery and
delectable shapes, which, delivered o'er to the
voice, the tongue, which is the birth, becomes
excellent wit.

IfI had a thousand sons, the first humane principle I would teach them should be, to forswear thin potations and to addict themselves to sack.

So drink! ;)

twistarella, I'd be happy to send you photos of both!

Yah: I dont know why in the world no one EVER thought to substitute Grape Juice for me. You would think they would. I just got it down to a pinky of wine as serving for the full glass. Is the heart and the thought that counts anyway. Almost 6K years and still here...drunk or not. Damn....what a group.

#259 hedge

RWC I imagine as a tall, dark, handsome, and wearing a very tasteful suit (in a dark tone -- much more presidential than that bannana blazer and pink tie Kerry was wearing the other day).

Muchos freakin' gracias hedge !!! :-)

*here that zorky, get your niece on the line :-P

#272 RIP Ford

Dude, she looks like an awesome dog. Did you contact her at all. She emailed me at work (the actual girl taking care of her) and said that her attitude is great. Confident but laid back. Interested/curious about everything but the type that roams about but comes back to lay by your feet.

I also have her number but that is at work.

As I type this, little "the-fang" is up again. . . .

#266 Twisterella

I see you as Gretchen Wilson (sings Redneck Womyn) with a billed cap and ripped jeans, swinging her leg over a mud-plastered ATV (yup, that's in the video, too!)

Well, clothing wise and transportation wise, that's purty much it. The hair is short and spiky, the better to fit under the baseball cap. Haven't seen the video, so I'm not sure about the rest of it.

Have another picture:

SwampWoman on Atkins

Donna V.

I have no idea which train I will actually make. There are 5 of us heading up to Milwaukee for the night to party with one of my best amigos who lives there. Lots of stereotypical binge drinking.
I've been to the city at least 5 times by car to see him while he was at Marquette. He lived off State St.
Real nice neighborhood!

Zork,

LOL