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"A Cynical Mantra" for "Digital Brown Shirts"

Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 1:12:06 pm PDT

Stand back! He’s gonna blow!

Gore Says Bush Lied About Iraq to Push for War.

“Beginning very soon after the attacks of 9/11, President Bush made a decision to start mentioning Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein in the same breath in a cynical mantra designed to fuse them together as one in the public’s mind,” Gore said in a speech at Georgetown University Law Center. ...

He said Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney continue to argue for a connection between bin Laden’s al Qaeda network and the deposed Iraqi regime because it supports their push for war in Iraq and justifies “some of the new power they’ve picked up from the Congress and the courts” since the 2001 hijack attacks in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

“As a result, President Bush is now intentionally misleading the American people,” Gore said. “Indeed, Bush’s consistent and careful artifice is itself evidence that he knew full well that he was telling an artful and important lie — visibly circumnavigating the truth over and over again as if he had practiced how to avoid encountering the truth.”

In an hour-long address punctuated by polite laughter and applause, Gore also accused the Bush administration of working closely “with a network of ‘rapid response’ digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for ‘undermining support for our troops.’”

(Hat tips: Herman J. for the Photoshop above, lawhawk for the link.)

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1 Michael Moore's coffin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:13:39am

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!


SPEWED ALL OVER THE MONITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2 the_accidental_admin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:13:53am

is this guy ever gonna go away

3 joel2  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:15:22am

Have ya'll seen this at georgewbush.com, today?

The Faces of JF'ingK's Coalition

4 Laserjock  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:15:34am

Nice Photoshop. When is this guy gonna get the idea into his head that he's beyond his expiration date?

5 godfrey  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:15:35am

O my God, tears are streaming down my cheeks!

6 rabidfox  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:16:45am

WHERE are the men carrying long-armed jackets?

7 joel2  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:18:13am

#2

Do you really want him to? He sure is good for a laugh. Seriously, this guy is doing only 1 pary harm and that is the jackass party.

8 D-Fens  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:18:17am

Can't believe I voted for this psycho. ugh.

9 brakes  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:18:49am

Gosh, this is just so - - - presidential

10 forever banned  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:18:58am

don't it make my green shirt brown?

11 Crapulentis_Sum  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:19:14am

First I laughed,
Then I cried,
For this pitiful creature,
Was a by the thinnest margins,
Kept from leading the most powerful country on earth.

THERE IS A GOD AFTER ALL............

12 Canadian Jumper  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:20:38am

This guy is a GENUINE cretin.

There has to be a shitlocker load of Dems who, in the quiet of the nighht, take a deep breath and whisper........."Holy F**k, did we ever dodge a bullet in Florida. Thank God for hanging chads!"

13 vtrtl  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:20:38am

heh...

very good one...

14 snellenr  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:20:39am

Given Algore's impeccable timing, this can only mean that Hans Blix will find a signed and witnessed marriage license tomorrow between Saddam Hussein & Osama bin Laden that names "destruction of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon" as Osama's dowry...

15 Crapulentis_Sum  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:20:53am

Algore has already cemented his legacy as

"The Goof who followed the One who goofed up in office..."

16 scott in east bay  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:21:30am

"Digital brown shirts"......ohmygod! Does he mean.......us? I feel so used.

17 Crapulentis_Sum  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:22:41am

The goalposts of the LLL will shift like the sands of the desert.

No WMD
Not Enough WMD
No Stockpiles of WMD
He didn't know he had WMD..

so on and so forth......

18 J. Lichty  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:22:57am

Funny I don't remember him objecting when Clinton made regime change American policy, or when he voted for the first gulf war. I guess that was before he went off his rocker.

19 Michael Moore's coffin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:23:23am

#3 Joel

As my good friend, Vic "The Brick" Jacobs, sports guy would say:

YEEEHEEEHEEE-IKES!!!!!!!!

great vid, my friend.

20 Studsup  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:23:30am

Does Islam provide for male burkas?

Al would look good in one.

21 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:23:37am
In an hour-long address punctuated by polite laughter and applause, Gore also accused the Bush administration of working closely “with a network of ‘rapid response’ digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for ‘undermining support for our troops.’”

I assume this is an extension, a corollary, of Bush = Hitler.

Anti-idiotarian bloggers = Brownshirts.


Whats next, Lileks or VDH photoshopped as Eva Braun?

22 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:23:38am

Presumably he could do something about the "digital brownshirts" to stop them from misusing his invention, the internet.

;-)

23 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:25:15am

Take the Gore pic, combine it with the Michael Moore cartoon, and then we're talking the state of the Democratic party in 2004.

They're blowing fire and brimstone out of all orfices; sound and fury signifying the death of the Democratic party.

But on top of all that, Gore-on is all but calling Republicans Nazis?!

I can't wait for the Times to Dowdify this episode.

24 scaramouche  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:25:21am

From the article:

"with a network of 'rapid response' digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for 'undermining support for our troops."'

You know Gore has become seriously unhinged when he succumbs to to those Nazi references.

25 Crapulentis_Sum  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:25:28am

Guess its only a matter of time until the Digital Night of the Long Knives occurs... :)

26 Jheka  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:25:28am

One can only hope that he will be speaking at the Democratic convention. BTW, as far as Gore pictures go, the above is a classic but I also like this one (and yes, it's not even photoshopped).

27 godfrey  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:26:59am

Hmm. There's no mention of a "speech" by Al Gore anywhere on the Georgetown University Law Center's website. Not that I blame them.

28 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:27:32am

26


Oooh thats funny.

29 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:27:37am

Jeez, hasn't somebody told him about the purple pill, Nexium?

30 Jheka  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:27:49am

You know, it's sad. I used to have such respect for Gore. In 1988 he really seemed like the best of the bunch. I even voted for him in 2000. What the hell happened? Doesn't he have family that will get him treatment?

31 TheBigW  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:27:52am

Al-Reuters still smarting about 2000

http://news.yahoo.com/news.....

32 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:28:44am

#26 Jheka:

Funniest. Picture. Ever.

33 joel2  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:29:44am

#30 Jheka,

You're not really admitting that, are you?

34 J.D.  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:30:01am
35 andrew2  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:31:40am

Get th net out, Al-Gore hqas flipped his lid. Must be from the endless nights of pouting over the Fla. elections.

36 scaramouche  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:32:15am

#29 Ward Cleaver

That little purple pill might help with Gore's wicked acid reflux.

37 Jheka  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:32:35am

BTW, in the unphotoshopped version of the above picture, found here, our friend colt had, by far, the best (and possibly most inappropriate) caption idea:

"And Monica was, like,..."

38 Dripping Sarcasm  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:33:03am

I suggested this at rantburg the last time Mr. Gore popped off. He is a sounding board for Democratic strategists. He'll throw a fiery speech out there, way over the top, just to see what, if anything strikes a chord with potential voters and/or the media. Then, Kerry will quietly adopt that particular talking point, adapt into into something that may seem more palateable and start to call it his. Just a theory, but have you ever seen some of the bizarre creations at the Detroit auto show? The car makers put on display some really wacky concept cars that they have no intention of ever producing, but you will see some of the styling, or functionality show up in a modified form a couple of years down the line. Except in rare cases like Mopar's Viper and Prowler. But of course Mr. Gore, you're no Prowler.

39 Rednek  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:33:22am

That picture is obviously a fake.

If it was real there would be steam coming out his ears as well.

40 alan111  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:33:38am

Hell hath no fury...

41 Jheka  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:34:14am

#33 joel2: I'm like a lot of people here. We voted for Gore and now thank God for the electoral college.

42 JustTheFacts  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:35:44am

Has anyone seen video? Which Al Gore was featured today? The slumber-inducing lisping pedant Al, or the fire-breathing Pentecostal revival tent Al? Or some totally new mutation?

43 Studsup  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:36:10am

#2 joel -- "Have ya'll seen this at georgewbush.com, today? The Faces of JF'ingK's Coalition "

Brilliant ad by the Bush people. Says it all. The only think they might have added was Hillary strutting aroung the Senate floor waving the "Bush Knew" headlines. And this ad focused on the moderate wing of the Democratic Party.

A lot of Americans are fed up with the anger, childishness and insane rage by the leaders of the DNC. Ads like this present the Democrats for what they truly are and with their own words.

44 Miggie  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:39:06am

I'm another one drenched in sweat because I voted for Gore. I thought he had the better resume and I was still mad at the Republicans over Ken Starr's excesses. But good grief, look what we would have had! Just like Starr, these guys don't care what they are doing to the country.

All that said, I think President Bush feels he has a mission, just as Reagan did, and I think he will go down as just as successful a president. What good fortune that he won and now I can't wait to vote for him.

In our voting system there is just no way, even with all the exposure they get, to really assess a man. Look, we even elected Nixon.

We really lucked out in Florida the last time. I hope it isn't that close this time.

45 joel2  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:39:18am

God Bless ya, Jheka, for being so humble as to allow yourself to know when you make a mistake and then admit it. I certainly cannot claim that for myself all the time.

Cheers.

46 joel2  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:40:45am

You too, Miggie...

47 Crapulentis_Sum  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:40:55am

#43- That is a GREAT advertisement. The funny thing is the Democratic Opposition is doing this to itself- providing material for a LOOOONG time to come....

48 norar  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:41:39am

Gee ... and I just pulled the last TIME magazine from my mail box with the Clinton's interview, and here are the words of Gore's boss:

I don't believe he [Bush] went there for oil. We did not go in there for imperialist or financial reasons. ...

At the moment the UN inspectors were kicked out in '98, this is the proper lamguage: there were substantial quantities of botulinum and aflatoxin, as I recall, some bioagents, I believe there were more those, and VX and ricin, chemical agents, unaccounted for. ... We also thought there were a few missiles, somewarheads, and may be a very limited amount of nuclear laboratory capacity.
After 9/11, let's be fair here, if you have been president, Well, this fellow bin Laden just turned these three airplains into weapons of mass destruction, right? ... So, you are sitting there as President, you're reeling in the aftermaths of this, so, yeah, you want to go get bin laden and do Afghanistan and all that. But you also have to say, My first responsibility now is to try everything possible to make sure that this terrorist network and other terrorist networks cannot reach chemical and biological weapons or small amounts of fissile material. I have got to do that ...

TIME Magazine, June 28, 2004 issue, page 36.

There was Time interview with Blix sometime in early 2003, where he states that several hundreds tons of some chemical weapons material that were there when UN inspectors were kicked out were unaccounted for. Blix also said in this interview that Sadams regime was extremely accurate with their record keeping, and the lack of records on destroying these agents is highly unusual indeed. I tried the link to this interview not long ago and there was only the part of the interview that was not included in the printed edition, i.e. the Blix's words disappeared. So I took the trouble to retype Clinton's words here to keep the record, just in case. Heh ...

49 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:44:11am

Al Gore is unhinged!.....Bulging veins and purple faced crazy!
After his last speech (a few weeks ago) he became so hysterical that he sweated right through his suit.

The man needs medication.

50 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:44:33am

#41 Jheka

Too bad Ev isn't here to take some of the heat off of the Gore voters ;-)

51 JustTheFacts  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:44:40am
Indeed, Bush's consistent and careful artifice is itself evidence that he knew full well that he was telling an artful and important lie- visibly circumnavigating the truth over and over again as if he had practiced how to avoid encountering the truth

Rarely have so many words said so little. How do people stay awake through this?

52 Buck  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:45:22am

Here is a quote from a speech he gave in 1992. Senator Al Gore: ``He,'' meaning Saddam Hussein, ``had already launched poison gas attacks repeatedly, and Bush looked the other way. He had already conducted extensive terrorism activities, and (GW) Bush looked the other way. He was already deeply involved in the efforts to obtain nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction. Bush knew it, but he looked the other way. Well, in my view,'' and the ``my'' was Senator Gore, ``the Bush administration was acting in a manner directly opposite to what you would expect with all the evidence it had available to it at the time. Saddam Hussein's nature and intentions were perfectly visible.''

Already in 1992, Senator Gore had identified Saddam Hussein and Iraq as a threat to American Security and to the security of the Middle East and as a danger to his own people.

53 LthrNck  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:45:49am

Hmmm, here is a good quote from Gore regarding Saddam's regime, circa 1998:

[Link: www.fas.org...]

"To exchange one orthodoxy for another is not necessarily an advance. The enemy is the gramophone mind, whether or not one agrees with the record that is being played at the moment." George Orwell

54 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:46:15am

I hope Tipper has a good set of ear plugs and a lifetime supply of Prozac.

55 William  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:46:18am

Al Gore's greatest hits on Iraq, for a limited time only:


Saddam's WMD Blues (now digitally remastered!):


Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.

We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

Al Gore
Speech to San Francisco Commonwealth Club
September 23, 2002
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]


Saddam Is Classless (Virulent Threat Remix, Regime Change Edition!):


Al Gore said last night that the time had come for a "final reckoning" with Iraq, describing the country as a "virulent threat in a class by itself" and suggesting that the United States should consider ways to oust Saddam Hussein.

The New York Times
Gore, Championing Bush, Calls For a 'Final Reckoning' With Iraq
February 13, 2002
[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

56 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:47:31am

I see the Democrats have installed a flame thrower on the BattleGore Mark 3....

57 mpax  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:48:20am

The nation should have a day of national thanksgiving that Gore lot the election.

58 mpax  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:48:37am

That's "lost" the elsction.

59 Ms. Andi  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:48:49am

#3 joel2

That link doesn't work. Was it from the GWB site? Do you have link to the page it was on?

60 locutus  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:49:07am

Look, it's Gorezilla!

61 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:51:09am

I hope the Bush campaign runs that on TV, I really do.

62 john5z  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:52:37am

His name is AL WHORE

63 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:53:17am

ha! and who have we here, the infamous Cry-Babyzilla? Such a cute little tyke, pity he wasn't wearing his sailor suit and cap.

To think how close we came to having this idiot as president...no don't!!!!!!!!!

64 madmark  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:54:51am

Please let Mr. Gore be seen by all who vote in this country. Let them see the mistake we (as a country) almost made, the bullet we dodged, the luntic we almost had as our President.

Every time he is seen in public is another strong statement of support for GWB.

65 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:55:33am

#58 mpax

That's "lost" the elsction.

We know what you meant ;)

66 EddieP  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:56:28am

Let's Photoshop "digital panties" on albore's head. Maybe we should give al a one digit salute. Regards

67 rockman  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:56:50am

Gore has finally fallen through his own asshole and will reappear in another dimension.

68 peace be upon me  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 11:59:56am

OT
The following spin, from a UK taqiyah (compulsory Muslim deception) website, prescribes a soft-sell of Islam by means of fictionalizing inherent Muslim aggression and genocide into nominal cultural unity among Christians, Jews and Muslipigs. Unfortunately, neo-con White House insider, David Frum, wrote of Bush gathering together Christians, Jews and Muslims in the Oval Office and telling them that he would still be an alcoholic, if he had not turned back to their allegedly common faith. So, everything that you read below is Bush-Powell policy. What part of not-playing-with-a-full-deck do you Bush softliners not understand?

[Link: www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk...]

For decades they (Muslims) have struggled in the face of discrimination in all walks of life. (The) West is not based on Judio-Christian civilisation. This term should be abandoned to be replaced by Judio-Christian-Islamic civilisation. The new language should be used in all venues starting with media, academic statements by politicians, church leaders and Imams of Masajid. These are the words that define how we are related to each other.

All that is required is bare literacy, to understand that non-spin Islamospew dictates that Judaism and Christianity are alleged Satanic distortions of supposed original Islam. Muslims do not and cannot accept that Abraham and Moses and Jesus were Jews. If that fact can't impact on Bush-Powell's alcohol/oil sotted brains, then Republicans should be working on getting a hardline Congress that will make Kerry - sorry, the contest is over - recognize that the mortal Islamofascist enemy must be annihilated, on a global scale. Clinton was pressured into tossing 70 cruise missiles on bin Laden's genocide camps in 1998. Kerry can be force to jump through the same hoops. BUSH BLEW IT!

69 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:01:53pm

Here's a link to Daniel McKivergan's article on "The Clinton Administration's Case Against Saddam":

FORMER VICE PRESIDENT Al Gore recently told an audience that "the [Bush] administration did not hesitate to heighten and distort public fear of terrorism after September 11th, to create a political case for attacking Iraq." With this in mind, I would to like draw your attention to a Project brief entitled, The Clinton Administration's Public Case Against Saddam Hussein.

The article contains a hyperlink to the project brief itself.

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

70 joel2  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:03:00pm
71 Bob with one o  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:03:03pm

“Indeed, Bush’s consistent and careful artifice is itself evidence that he knew...

He's been reading "Catch 22" again. Art Gorefunkel or Yogarrian?

72 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:03:16pm

#54 CY

I hope Tipper has a good set of ear plugs and a lifetime supply of Prozac.

And a stun gun, with plenty of spare batteries.

Actually, it just reminded me of a Monty Python sketch, where an old scientist (played by John Cleese?) starts prattling on about something, and then bursts into flames, which are put out by someone throwing a bucket of water.

73 hepcat  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:04:04pm

Hollywood 2004 - nothing but a bunch of cowards.

Eff'em all.

Hollywood celebrities of the past didn't just play soldiers in front of the cameras. They volunteered to put their lives on the line for America. Clark Gable joined the Army Air Corps at 41, became a B-17 air gunner, and earned the Air Medal and Distinguished Flying Cross. Jimmy Stewart led B-24 bombing raids over Germany. They both appeared in pro-America documentaries, produced by the military-operated First Motion Picture Unit, when not in combat. Director Frank Capra made films for the U.S. government, including the seven-part "Why We Fight (1942-44)." Big-band leader Glenn Miller led the U.S. Army Air Force band in Europe and died for his country when his plane went down in the English Channel.

Those who stayed behind during World War II starred in countless films -- "Action in the North Atlantic," "Arise, My Love," "All Through the Night," "Bataan," "The Battle of Midway," "Captains of the Clouds," "Desperate Journey," "Destination Tokyo," "Escape," "Flying Tigers," "Foreign Correspondent," "The Great Dictator," "Gung Ho!" "The Mortal Storm," "One of Our Aircraft Is Missing," "So Proudly We Hail!" "Wake Island," and "Yankee Doodle Dandy," to name just a few -- which rallied Americans through the long, dark days of the war to support the Allied cause. The movies depicted good and evil in stark terms. And there was no politically correct revisionism about who our enemies were.

[Link: www.townhall.com...]

74 LthrNck  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:04:23pm

Now where would the President have come up with the idea of an Iraq-Al Qaeda link? Where? Oh, let me see here, paragraph 4 of the US Grand Jury indictment against Usama Bin Laden would be a good place to start:

4. Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.
In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.


www.fas.org...] target="_blank">

75 Sir Lurksalot  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:04:28pm

who work to pressure reporters and their editors for 'undermining support for our troops."'

He doesn't deny that they do undermine support. He's just upset that they get criticized for it.

I shudder to think what would be happening right now if this lunatic were President.

We'd probably be nearing completion on a free World Trade Center in Afhanastib for the Taliban/Al Queda under the theory that their attacks on our buildings were due to their understandable humiliation at being unable to create such structures. (an Edifice Complex)

76 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:05:28pm

What a pathetic train wreck of a human being. "Digital Brown Shirts?" Honey, that's paranoid schizophrenia and doctors can do a lot for it these days.

77 J.D.  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:06:31pm

joel2

I just saw it.

Lovely group./

78 Crapulentis_Sum  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:06:36pm

#67-

Gore has finally fallen through his own asshole and will reappear in another dimension.

I think he imploded in on himself, and is further proof of the reality of Black Hole Theory... :)

79 zulubaby  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:07:54pm

OMG, that is hysterical!

80 rebmiami  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:08:16pm

somebody strip that boy and run him around on a leash.

/digital brown shirt

Bush Derangement Syndrome has reached a critical mass -- the left is going stark raving bats -- they have no more thought, no higher critical faculties remaining. Why listen to Al Gore, why listen to Dan Rather, why pick up the New York Times

In local news today, I hate Bush!
The latest economic indicators show, I hate Bush!

Today, in the Middle East, I hate Bush!, hate, hate, hate, hate, him. Hate him! Got that? Hate!

Today, our food critic visited chez marseilles here's what she had to say -- "the great hype that preceded the opening of this mediocre restaurant nearly surpassed Bush's hype in the rush to war...

blah blah blah blah.

81 Dragon Fly  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:08:23pm

Is Al talking through his again?!

82 Photoblogger  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:09:11pm

From the article:

Gore, a Democrat who lost to Bush in a White House race ultimately decided by the Supreme Court despite winning the popular vote in 2000, cited the recent report by the Sept. 11 commission ...

They can't resist throwing in the "winning the popular vote" bit. Give it a rest, al-reuter.

83 Ms. Andi  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:10:55pm

#70 joel2

Thanks, I didn't realize it was that video right there in front me. doh! That's a pretty good video, thanks.

84 Dianna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:11:07pm

Um, Jheka? I love your blog, and I've admired a lot of your posts on various sites. I say this in advance, so you understand I really do like you.

But I must ask: Had you read Earth in the Balance before the election?

Voting for him in 2000, if you didn't have the visceral conviction that he was (PJ O'Rourke's phrasing) a fascist twinky and an intellectual dolt, I can see, I guess. But that does presume you hadn't read his book.

85 David Simon  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:12:39pm
a network of 'rapid response' digital Brown Shirts

What a fruit loop.

86 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:13:12pm

Oh dear, Mr. Gore, where have you been? Nurse Ratched has been looking for all over you. It's time for your lobotomy. Come with me...

87 sharona  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:16:00pm

How many times can I say "Thank You" for the best laigh I have had in many, many days? That P-Shop is beyond funny ...

Herman J you are a s@x g*d!

88 Tupsox  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:17:01pm

Sharona,

Hi!

89 brakes  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:17:24pm

OT

I was surprised to see this cartoon in our very LLL paper today. Oliphant tells it like it is.

90 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:18:37pm

Oh dear, Mr. Gore, where have you been? Nurse Ratched has been looking all over for you. It's time for your lobotomy. Come with me...


PIMF...PIMF...PIMF...

/talk about a mantra!

91 Roger  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:18:50pm

I can't wait to see what John Flip-flop Kerry will eventually be reduced to.

92 scaramouche  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:20:06pm

I think Al is really steamed about Bubba raking in all that dough from his new book and is taking it out on Bush.

93 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:21:39pm

OT


Home grown avocado pit project update.

Back in February, I placed the solid core of the guacamole plant in a glass of water with corn-cob holders, in my kitchen window, as I had seen done in one of my mother's women's magazines years ago.

Took about two solid months of nothing happening, but finally the pit started to split, and a root started growing.

So I planted my pit, in a flower pot in the backyard, and again nothing happened for almost two more weeks, then quite quickly a sprig popped up and started growing. I had found out the 7 meter high tree in mi suegra's backyard was the result of just such a pit planting five years before. I was psyched. Over a meter of growth a year. I'd seen websites saying my Washingtonia Robusta aka "Mexican Fan Palm Tree" would grow nearly half a meter per year and reach heights in excess of 20 meters, but the two I planted three years ago, while producing an incredible plethora of fronds, have maybe grown half a meter each in those three years (I'm not counting the actual fronds, which add about a meter of height, I'm talking stem).

The day I am to transplant to the ground, I chase off a rabbit from my backyard, and he has munched what was about a 15 cm plant back to about 5 cm, and left just about a third of one leaf on the plant.

I go ahead and transplant to the ground anyway, but wrap a metal screen carefully around to protect from rabbits. Two weeks of touch and go, me watering the plant if it went more than about two days without rain. The one shread of leaf remains green, but nothing else happened.


However, in just the last two days, I'm starting to see a couple of new leaves budding on the twig, so I am a little more optimistic.

Web sites I visit say not to allow roots to dry out, but based on rainfall estimates from WSR-88D Nexrad Doppler Radar, my yard has received 10 to 15 cm of rain the last 48 hours, and with the high clay content soil of northern Harris county, it isn't draining too well, and I worry a little about root rot.


OT, may or may not hit the Valley this weekend for my wife's prima Blanca's baby shower, and if we do go, I'm not sure if we'll visit Nuevo Progreso. For some reason, when you buy avocadoes in Mexico, they remove the pits, and apparently people aren't supposed to take whole Mexican avocadoes back into Texas. I suspect they grow better than California avocadoes, and somehow the California avocado lobby has forced this unfair rule on us. I'm sorely tempted to try to smuggle back a couple of intact avocadoes, or at least a couple of pits, kept moist by wrapping in a damp napkin and sealing in a baggie, across the border.

94 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:21:46pm

Gore is now certifiably Crazier than a Shithouse Rat. Unbelievable.

This was certainly a stain upon the honor of my alma mater (although I'm sure most of the faculty in GULC thought this was just wonderful). I wonder if there was a Q&A period, and if so, if anyone called him out on any of this mind-bendingly insane rubbish.

95 Mr Pol  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:22:33pm

Why does this picture remind me this site?

96 scaramouche  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:23:00pm

I think we should seriously look into using Al's hot air as an alternate fuel source (him being so environmental and all).

97 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:24:35pm
Gore also accused the Bush administration of working closely “with a network of ‘rapid response’ digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for ‘undermining support for our troops.’”

Ah, so this is why the entire US press corps has always unhesitatingly supported the Bush administration's foreign policy. I knew there had to be a reason.

98 sharona  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:25:54pm

Jheka:

#33 joel2: I'm like a lot of people here. We voted for Gore and now thank God for the electoral college.

You and my sister both!

99 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:26:59pm
In an hour-long address punctuated by polite laughter and applause, Gore also accused the Bush administration of working closely “with a network of ‘rapid response’ digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for ‘undermining support for our troops.’”

Aw...Boo hoo. They can quietly cheer for our guys on the ground in Iraq to come back in body bags and the Iraqis to slaughter each other in a civil war, but don't you DARE question their patriotism (which is a dirty word unless they're the ones being 'patriotic') or commitment to human rights! Shame on you, you digital brownshirts, html Hitlers and mpeg Mussolinis!

100 Dianna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:28:11pm

Mr. Pol

What on earth?

101 Dave the.....  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:28:46pm

The three things in my life that I'm most thankful for (where bad things were avoided).....

A) The time I was driving 70 down a highway and hit an ice patch. Just barely missed hitting a truck head on.

B) Going back to school and getting a second degree, a useful one this time (moved me from a retail sales job to a CPA in 2.5 years).

C) Algore not getting elected.

102 Mr Pol  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:30:10pm

#100 Dianna

The guy's an asshole, so...

103 sefton  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:31:01pm

I, for one, welcome our digital brownshirted overlords.

(Charles, I think he was winking at you when he said that.)

104 sharona  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:31:43pm

Hi tupsox!

105 Dianna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:31:57pm

Oh, agreed, Mr. Pol. I was rather more curious as to how you ran across that site, and, er...do you have any idea why it exists?

106 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:33:44pm

99 Fenway Nation


For some reason, I always mentally pronounce "HTML" as "hatemail" in my mind. Fewer mental syllables than "H-T-M-L".

Back when I actually followed baseball, as a young kid from Massapequa I started following the New York Yankees when they weren't very good and Bobby Mercer couldn't hit any home runs at home, about the time they did a season at Shea Stadium. Then the glory years, Munson (before his tragic death in a plane crash), Nettles, Catfish, Chambliss, Dent, Randolph, Piniella, White, Guidry, Sparky Lyle, Gossage, Doc Medich et al. Anyway, I spent some time with my grandmother in Quincy, MA, and the year the Yankees (1978, IIRC) were like 14 games back from the Bosox, I get bleacher tickets at Fenway to the first game of a four game series, and would you believe the Yankees swept all four games. Wound up winning the pennant that year.


Moral of the story: probably is one, but not sure what it is.

107 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:33:59pm

Oh, that reminds me - I need to get out my pixel iron and touch up my digital brown shirt. Gotta look sharp...

108 jrdroll  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:34:22pm

#95
Was that a solution to "global warming' from "Earth in the Balance"?

109 Jheka  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:34:28pm

#84 Dianna:

No, I hadn't read his book. Like many people, I saw him as a center-left moderate who was a bit of an environmental crusader but who could be expected to more or less stay the course. Bush, for a variety of reasons, appeared to be the slightly less attractive choice (many of which reasons, sadly, remain; however, as I was just discussing with my father, while I (and he) are not big fans of Bush, the American left has so deteriorated in recent years that voting for anyone that they support just isn't an option).

As I often say, I'll vote for Bush in 2004, wish him all the success in the world, and hope for a better option in 2008.

110 Mr Pol  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:34:36pm

#105 Dianna

Huh... Well, I was looking for Chirac speech, and...

Anyway, no, I don't know why it exists.

111 Photoblogger  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:35:16pm

Gore also accused the Bush administration of working closely "with a network of 'rapid response' digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for 'undermining support for our troops." '

What's going on with these Reuters quotes? Why are there nested quotes? Did Gore make little finger quote symbols when he said "rapid response" and "undermining support for our troops"? Why is the last set of quotes reversed? Is "digital brownshirts" Gore's or Reuters' phrase?

112 Zaideh  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:35:17pm

OT
ISM plans "Freedom Summer Palestine 2004",
Hamas praises ISM.
ISM declares it will "take direct action against occupation forces," as well as send "groups of internationals to the various regions to join in local resistance activities."
Read allaboudit here.

113 Paul  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:35:22pm

Zzzzz.....Another day, another batshit Algore rant. Worst part: there's still more than four months to election day! How many demented movies, books, web sites, Hollywood stars and speeches can the Dems churn out in that time?

114 ted  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:35:40pm

An open letter to Al Gores psychiatrist... As a psychiatrist, i would behoove my fellow colleague treating Mr. Gore to switch him over from oral anti-psychotic to injectable anti-psychotic medication,administered in your office under your supervision. In addition, he needs a large increase in dosage. It appears that his public appearance today demonstrates he has gone off his meds once again and is floridly psychotic,paranoid and delusional. I would also recommend an MRI scan for signs of pre-senile dementia. Since his wife and children must be under severe emotional distress in dealing with his mental derangement,counseling is indicated. If he indicates he wants to make another speech,i would consider instituitionalizing him in a long term psychiatric care facility "

115 sharona  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:35:51pm

Mr. Pol & Dianna:

Ever seen Mr. Methane (pronounced ME-thane)? Howard Stern had him on (back when he was still funny and not a bitter pill of a man) and he could play songs with his farts.

I'm not much of a sophmoric humor person, but Mr. Methane had me laughing in spite of myself.

116 EW1(SG)  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:36:08pm

#84 Dianna:

The Gore-Unabomber quiz.
Someone here noted a couple of days that Gore had received a D in science class at Yale: The course was entitled Man's Place in Nature.
You just can't make this stuff up.

117 Dianna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:37:00pm

Jheka and Mr. Pol -

In both cases, I am relieved to hear it.

118 Mr Pol  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:39:04pm

#115 sharona

No, never saw him... but can he make political speeches with his farts?

119 sharona  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:39:21pm

zaideh:

"Freedom Summer Palestine 2004"

]

Regarding that, JLichty had a cool idea at the LGF Chicago get-together. He'd like to organize a service trip to Israel some time in the not-too-distant future. I'd be happy to hook up with that group.

As for the ISM a$$hats, I'd avoid them like the fetid, flea-infested rodents they are.

120 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:39:53pm

Ted,
al Goor looks a little like Mr. McMahon from the WWE. From what I understand, Mr. McMahon has, at least in the past, utilized anabolic steroids to help him maintain a rather impressive physique even as he approaches the age of 60.

Could al Goor be abusing steroids, and suffering from what is commonly referred to as "roid rage"?

121 Dianna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:41:01pm

#116 EW1

I remember when that quiz first came out! I scared myself by knowing which ahistorical fruitcake was which.

122 scaramouche  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:41:32pm
123 Mr. Pulpo  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:42:22pm

A good thing it's not one of his "Blue Flammers".

124 peace be upon me  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:43:00pm

OT
Israel based report that Hezbollah has taken over al-Fatah (AKA: Arafat-terror) operations:

[Link: www.maarivenglish.com...]

Translation: Iran has injected a massive cash infusion into front-line Hezbollah terrorists, pending Bush-Powell's pending delivery of a HEZBOLLAH CORRIDOR to Iran's Ayatoilets in the name of cleric dictated sham-democracy. In 10 years the Ayatoilets will be erecting statues to the Oil-Patch President.

Why can Michael Moore peddle a Bush-doesn't-have-a-clue line? Because Bush doesn't have a clue. Defend the following conduct, which is central to Moore-prop:

[Link: www.thememoryhole.org...]

Ad hominen attacks on the Fahrenheit 9-11 groups will backfire. Pro-Bush sentiment will have absolutely no currency by August 30, 2004. By that time, LGF will become a forum for promotion of a hardline Congress, because you current Bush-losers will abandon the "faith-based" nut.

125 A Recovering Liberal  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:44:10pm

Ohmygawd, I am cackling so loudly over that photo. Thank you for the afternoon laughter.

126 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:44:40pm

124


Somebody else already registered under the name "Camel Prophet"?
Thats not right, Charles should have held that name for you.

127 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:44:46pm

The pic somehow reminds me of the Balrog in "Lord of the Rings."

128 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:45:53pm

#116

It would have been a neat trick for AG to do poorly in a science course at Yale when he was an undergraduate at Harvard. However, for lizardoids who are interested, here's a summary of his academic record, courtesy of Wikipedia:

Academic record
On March 21, 2000, The Washington Post reported that in his second year at Harvard, Gore earned a D in one science course, a C-minus in introductory economics, and two C-pluses and a B-minus in other, unspecified courses and during his junior year, Gore earned a B, B-plus, and an A-minus in three government courses. (See United States academic grade.)

During the 2000 Presidential campaign, conservatives pointed out that this evidence seemed to contradict the popular perception that George W. Bush was the less intelligent of the two candidates. Conservatives added that Gore failed five of the eight classes he took over three semesters at Vanderbilt Divinity School, and that Gore never completed his degree at Vanderbilt Law School.

In rebuttal, Gore defenders noted that on IQ tests taken in 1961 and 1964, Gore scored 133 and 134 respectively, which placed him above the 95th percentile in the general population. Prior to his attending Harvard, Gore graduated from St. Albans ranked 25th in a class of 51, and scored 1355 on his SAT test, well above average. Gore also graduated from Harvard cum laude based on his strong senior thesis, "The Impact of Television on the Conduct of the Presidency, 1947-1969."

His sophomore year was his worst year, academically, and was not representative of his college career. Gore was working at the Tennessean, and also dealing with his recently born baby daughter, during his time at Vanderbilt Divinity school. Under such conditions, it was perhaps understandable that Gore would not prioritize his studies.

Gore left Vanderbilt Law School because he decided to run for Congress instead. It was therefore unfair to accuse Gore of being an academic failure for not completing his law degree.

Therefore, Gore advocates claimed, it was reasonable to assume that Gore was intelligent and academically successful, although perhaps not exceptionally so.

Link: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Now if only our lizardoid masssster could find a copy of that senior thesis....

129 Dianna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:46:34pm

#115 Sharona

Prior to your post, no. I can think of no response that doesn't degenerate...

#114 Ted

I'm not a psychiatrist, but I've been wondering about his medication balance, too. The last time I remember seeing someone this far out of it, the guy was attacking a newstand that stole his quarter.

130 ted  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:47:27pm

120 Ed...Steroids and the Psychotic Break
Q. I have a client who has been diagnosed bipolar II. For the most part, she has remained quite stable on Depakote and Paxil and does well in her work and with her family. For medical reasons, "Julie" was prescribed steroids. She began obsessing about killing the family's pony, and she indeed did poison it. The day the pony died, "Julie's" physical health deteriorated and she had to be hospitalized. The psychiatrist bowed out, so I am now treating her alone using cognitive behavioral therapy. Do you think steroids could have pushed her over the edge? Could the poisoning of the pony been a case of Munchausen's Syndrome? If the medical treatment still calls for use of steroids, should an antipsychotic be added?

Could al Goor be abusing steroids, and suffering from what is commonly referred to as "roid rage"?
Most definitely....

131 johnCV  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:48:00pm

This raging, raving diatribe given by Gore is essentially the Dems manifesto against Bush. Every negative thing that the left has spewed over the last several years is enshrined in this vile text.

Gore has obviously gone into some deep personal abyss, and he is being used to stoke the fires of hatred for President Bush. I suspect that at least 30% of the Dems agree with the majority of what he presented.

The bulk of the dems have been driven like lemmings to the precipice by the 'mainstream' politicians like Pelosi and Gore along with the various celebs that endorse this view.

Gore is quoting that pinnacle of honesty and truth Krugman:

Paul Krugman, the New York Times columnist, was one of the first journalists to regularly expose the President's consistent distortions of the facts. Krugman writes, "Let's not overlook the role of intimidation. After 9/11, if you were thinking of saying anything negative of the President...you had to expect right-wing pundits and publications to do all they could to ruin your reputation.


Rather also makes the show:

Rather went so far as to compare Administration efforts to intimidate the press to "necklacing" in apartheid South Africa, while acknowledging it as "an obscene comparison."


Even comedy centrals Jon Stewart is used. It has become surreal in that history and fact as so casually ignored. Gore even utters this profundity with no apparent recognition of history:

But the damage they have done to our country is not limited to misallocation of military economic political resources. Whenever a chief executive spends prodigious amounts of energy convincing people of lies, he damages the fabric of democracy, and the belief in the fundamental integrity of our self-government.

.
Does he not recall Lewinsky and impeachment? There does not seem to be any level of moderation left in political rhetoric. You cannot oppose simply someone. You must accuse them of being the antichrist and they, and thier entire family must be ritualistically sacrificed.

The left has apparently forsaken reality in its blind and terrifying hatred of Bush (and by extension, much of middle American values). The plethora of movies, books, speeches, concerts that are scheduled all with the one aim of deafeating Bush in November are testament to the rationale (?) that ' it does not matter what you say or do, it only matters what you can get people to believe'.

God help us if this approach works for them.

132 V the K  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:48:21pm
Bush’s consistent and careful artifice is itself evidence that he knew full well that he was telling an artful and important lie — visibly circumnavigating the truth over and over again as if he had practiced how to avoid encountering the truth.

Did Gore's irony chip malfunction or what?

133 Canadian Jumper  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:48:31pm

He was easier to take when he played tonsil hockey with Tipper on TV.

Now he appears to be 10pfennigs short of a Mark.

134 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:50:36pm

I'll have to check when I get home to see if this became tonight's drinking thread.

Later.

135 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:52:03pm

#130 ted:

In cases of muchausen-by-proxy, I think that although the person in question injures or kills to draw sympathy, they hide their behaviour as they know it would "out" them. It seems unlikely that the person would warn of their intentions in advance.

136 hobgoblin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:52:32pm

"digital brownshirts"

wow.

Gore must be an LGF troll. Any thoughts on who he is?

gordon's not unhinged enough. Maybe one of the ones who stos in, dumps on the carpet and leaves.

137 DGMS  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:53:11pm

al-gore, is an asshole fit for the fart pictures, in that case 'brown shirts' would be replaced with another article of clothing.

Dianna

"I am relieved to hear it."

If, the subject was the ignition of gaseous emissions that your statement pertained to...."relieved to hear it" could be taken to mean.....ummmm...awww hell never mind.

Oh by the way, all here is the definitive on that subject.

[Link: www.heptune.com...]

138 Bleeding heart conservative  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:53:46pm

What would a digital brown shirt look like?

139 EW1(SG)  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:54:31pm

#121 Dianna: Having absolutely zero motivation to read Earth in the Balance, I could not distinguish between them when I ran across that quiz.

140 Dianna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:55:31pm

DGMS

LOL!

It didn't strike me how that could be read until after I'd posted it. I was hoping it would fail to draw attention.

I'm going to go smoke a cigarette get over my embarassment.

141 Rob from the schlob  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:55:51pm

Somewhat OT, but it might be of interest:

The left seems to have a rather long tradition of denying the evils of totalitarianism. The following excerpt is take from Ron Rosenbaum's fine collection "Those who forget the past - The question of anti-Semitism" where he reprints a text by Robert Jan van Pelt:

In 1944, Victor Kravchenko, a top official of the Soviet delegation in Washington, D.C., defected to the West. In his best-selling book I Chose Freedom (1946), Kravchenko described the Soviet Union as a totalitarian nightmare in which the successes that had been trumpeted all around the world, [...], had been achieved through the application of terror backed by an extensive system of cencentration camps. The Soviets and their communist allies in the West answered through a campaign of defamation against Kravchenko, which resulted, among other things, in an article published in the French magazine Les Lettres Francaises. It claimed that Kravchenko was too stupid to have written the book, and that his so-called revelations had been manufactured by American intelligence. [...] [M]any never surrendered the idea that the whole gulag system had been an invention of the American intelligence service, designed to discredit the Soviet Union.

See, nothing new under the sun: the stupid guy (now its Bush, manipulated by the evil neo-cons) and - again - the sinister "American intelligence service".

As a sidenote, I warmly recommend Rosenbaum's book to anyone here, although it's a rather chilling read at times.

142 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:56:16pm

I have no clue what Algore's talking about. My brownshirt is analog.

143 EW1(SG)  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:56:38pm

#128 Connecticut Yankee: Oops! Thank you for fact checking my...

144 peace be upon me  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:57:19pm

OT
Baghdad blogger produces names of foreign terrorists killed in Iraq, as listed on a Wahabi website.

[Link: iraq-free.blogspot.com...]

1.Muhamed bin Salem Al-asmari Saudi

2.Abdullah bin Baz Al-utaibi Saudi

3.Muhamed Al-zahrani Saudi

4.Sa'ad bin Khaled Al-shahri Saudi

5.Abu Muhamed Al-Kusaimi Saudi

6.Muftaah saed Abu-dajana Emirates

7.Sultaan Mutaseem Al-ashmuri Yemen

8.Zakaria Abu-alabaas Morroco

9.Saed Muhamed Abu-zaaker Algeria

10.Mahmud uthman Al-shaikh Syria

11.Abu-attah Lybia

12.Abu Abdullah Somalia

13.Kaari Handalh Somalia

14.Omaar Hamid Khlil Iraq (Kurdistan)

15.Saif Al-Turkstani China

16.Abu Al-waleed Mauritania


So much for the "national insurgency."

145 Photoblogger  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:57:57pm

# 138 Bleeding heart conservative

What would a digital brown shirt look like?

Like this?

146 jrdroll  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 12:58:38pm

#138
Like this.

147 D-Fens  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:01:31pm

Gore's face does have that sorta steroid-induced swollen look. Could he be taking steroids for a non-psychiatric condition? A friend of mine is on them for Lupus and they make him exceedingly cranky.

148 V the K  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:04:19pm

1. [Insert obvious Taco Bell caption here]

2. "Still Alive, Spider-man? Well, perhaps a dose of FIREBREATH will rectify the situation. BWAH HA HA HA HA!"

3. Al apparently heard Andrew Sullivan claim he'd endorse any Democrat "as long as he's a total flamer."

4. "Sorry won't grow my eyebrows back, Mr. Vice-President," snarled Helen Thomas.

5. "... and if I ever... EVER... lied to deceive this country, may I be immediately cast into the flaming pit of ... AARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!"

6. Why you should never cram an entire tin of Altoids in your mouth at one time.

7. The crowd applauded wildly, then demanded he spontaneously combust Nicole Richie.

8. As Al Gore's transformation into a dragon drew to its inevitable conclusion, he finally understood what John Wong had meant about 'the curse of the Chinese campaign contributions.'

9. In this LOTR outtake, the wizard Algoran faces down a Fire Demon and commands the foul being of almost unimaginable horror to pull his finger, sealing their mutual doom.

10. "You can't claim my soul ... the terms of the contract clearly specify that in exchange for my soul, I get the most votes in the... oh, crap..."

10.

149 scaramouche  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:05:07pm

Al-Reuters (my second least favourite Al) shills for another hot air balloon.

150 Jheka  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:07:22pm

#148 V the K:

LOL!! Those are great.

151 dennisw-matamoros  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:07:52pm

The crazy world of Arthur Brown Algore

152 donna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:08:28pm

To hell with politics, if he would just get some tatts and a ponytail he'd be a super carnie.

153 Barbara Skolaut  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:09:52pm

Geez, Charles, have a heart! I'm at work here! People are looking at me really strangely as I try not to ROFLMAO.

Priceless. (I'd say "and accurate," but the only way AlBore will ever have that much fire is through the use of Photoshop.)

154 Michael Moore's coffin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:09:53pm

#124 Piss Be Upon You (not Me)


duh......okay! sure pal.


/fellow LFG looooser

155 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:10:02pm

#152 donna:

He has too many teeth.

;-)

156 fat kid  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:10:25pm

Hmmm, sounds a lot like that google bomb: "miserable failure"

157 Starfox5253  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:10:44pm

I just did the Gore quiz, and every statement I thought was Unabomber was Gore, and every statement I thought was Gore was Unabomber! I don't know what this means....

lol

158 JusTalkin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:11:39pm

Just like said yesterday. Gore was once a proud man, now his life seems to be in shambles and dedicated to nothing more than pursuing and destroying his arch enemy President Bush.

159 Harvey  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:12:39pm

I haven't read the whole thread, so please excuse if this has been said.

If digital brownshirts exist, it is only because Al Gore invented the internet.

BTW anyone know how much the Kerry-Gore-Moore combo are being paid to ensure a Republican victory at the next election?

160 Promethea  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:14:20pm

Hi Sharona and Tupsox!!!!

161 Geepers  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:15:21pm

Al Gore's rhetoric: Fahrenheit 1,423°

162 3dawghouse  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:18:17pm

Let's hope Kerry makes it a slam-dunk for Bush in Nov.


let's hear it for KERRY / GORE in '04

163 Dianna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:18:24pm

#154 Starfox

That madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.

164 Carolina Girl  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:19:18pm

#29 Ward --

Baby, you owe me a new keyboard - I will NEVER be able to explain this to the IS Department

165 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:22:39pm

137 DGMS

Algore's unfit to even qualify for an asshole. We're talking plant life...maybe. That's a question which will take the rest of the day, in the recently emerged sun, on the deck to ponder(for a nanosecond).

166 Michael Moore's coffin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:23:45pm
167 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:25:48pm

#124 peace dude

So if President Bush jumped up and ran out of the room you would be happy?

You folks are pathetic.

My advice; get help.

168 Michael Moore's coffin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:25:53pm

*broken record warning*

This just reaffirms what has been known by many for so long:

Germans love David Hassellhoff.

169 Jheka  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:26:04pm

#159 Harvey:

I don't know but whatever Hillary is paying them, it's not enough.

170 J. Lichty  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:28:09pm

Thanks for the plug on the idea Sharona although I wasn't quite ready to give the official unveiling of the proposal I guess the cat is out of the closet.

To elaborate, I have some good contacts in the group travel industry and I was wondering what the interest would be amongst the lizardoid minions in an LFG mission to Israel.

My thought is to put together a package of sightseeing and more. Including interesting meetings with people, govt, media, terror victims, non-Jewish pro-Israel groups in Israel e.g. Druze, Bedoins, Maronites and invite special guests to travel with us (only I know now who I have in mind).

If there is enough interest, I will work on getting some details and prices together to further sell the idea to the minions. I would hope for a trip sometime this fall (after the high holidays) and want to know what the interest would be.

Please respond to this post or email me with whether you are interested and how much you would be willing to pay for a minimum of a week.

tupesox. email me. I have an event that you may be interested in attending.

171 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:28:27pm
In rebuttal, Gore defenders noted that on IQ tests taken in 1961 and 1964, Gore scored 133 and 134 respectively,

Once again, I'm underwhelmed. I thought the standard DNP line was that Al is a sooper-genius?

172 D-Fens  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:28:55pm
DRUDGE! NOW! CHENEY NEWS!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME................

Dude, any big news about Cheney is automatically classified as "major league."

173 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:29:32pm

Whoops. Wrong thread.

V the K: (If you're still here)

OT. Todd Bertuzzi has been charged with assault with intent by the Vancouver police.

174 Michael Moore's coffin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:29:33pm

#162 3 Dog Night


Wouldn't THAT be a dream come true. To be beaten twice. Once for the run to the White House as Pres in 2000 AND as Veep with John FrankenKerry.

one can hope, right?

175 Barbara Skolaut  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:29:37pm

#67 Rockman - ROFLMAO! Lord have mercy; I almost peed my pants!

176 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:30:55pm

I meant "DNC", not "DNP" (DNP being the Colombian Departamento Nacional de Planeación)

177 RIP Ford  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:31:15pm

#160 Promethea

Cheers Promethea, Tupsox.
Thanks for the excellent evening.

178 Michael Moore's coffin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:31:54pm

By the way, friend, do we just ignore the the trollbot that calls himself PBUM? I'm too lazy to see where all he's been and how long he's been around.

179 RIP Ford  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:33:05pm

Ahem,

Sorry, I should have added J. Lichty to my last post as well. Sorry mate.

180 lazytart  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:33:49pm

DICK CHENEY IS A GOD.

181 David2  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:34:41pm

I have to believe that there is a secret committee that decides whether idiots like this are going to get to be president.

182 RIP Ford  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:35:26pm

#178 Michael Moore's coffin

PBUM is non other then Camel Prophet, he's been around a pretty long time. It looks like he's in one of his good moods, too.

184 Mike7411  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:36:09pm
Gore also accused the Bush administration of working closely “with a network of ‘rapid response’ digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for ‘undermining support for our troops

LLL code for=OMG they are paying attention to use, using facts to refute what we say... and making us prove things... ahhhh... the pain... stop them now!!!!

Stay in your place peon's it is my job, The Mighty GoreBot to rule.

F'ing ass_ole, any chance a stray meteorite will hit him?


Mike7411

185 quark2 ♥  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:37:27pm

@138 bleeding heart conservative

All those matrix green 1's and 0's would all be a nice shitty brown. :)

186 Dianna  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:37:49pm

I'm waiting for him to call on God as his witness, and thereby earn the thunderbolt out of the clear blue sky he so richly merits.

187 Michael Moore's coffin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:40:12pm

#182 RIP van FORD


Thanks. I 'member Camel. I think. I'm still a little hazy and disoriented from all of the Gore-Smoke.

It's still smoldering 'round here. Must. Get. Air.

188 SteveG  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:41:01pm

Fox News just showed Algore taking the exact opposite position regarding the threat of Saddam, WMD's, etc., during a debate from a previous race.

What a quack. Disgusting.

189 Barbara Skolaut  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:42:26pm

105 Dianna & 110 Mr. Pol: Why that site exists?

Because it can.

190 Laurence Simon  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:46:04pm

I read the whole thing. For a man who is trying to lambaste Bush on specific things he's said and done, Gore's got a few holes in his own speech.

Since when did we have a 5 trillion dollar surplus?
Has Gore got the receipts?

If it's all the way down to a 4 trillion dollar deficit, that's a total of 9 trillion dollars spent on top of all the tax revenue collected during that time and spent.

It must all be in Al Gore's magical lockbox.

Finally, check the Cato Institute for what Clinton said after sending troops to Kosovo and not getting Congress' approval for a declaration of war. Oddly enough, Al Gore sat on his hands and kept his mouth shut when Clinton declared a war without approval and thought that absolute authority rested with the President in such matters.

191 D-Fens  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:47:25pm

Regarding PBUM, I must say, ya'all have been gazing most excellently.

192 D-Fens  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:48:56pm
Maybe someone should tell Al Gore to complain to Vladimir Putin and tell him he lied to Bush.....


I'd pay money to see that. Putin rocks.

193 Michael Moore's coffin  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:55:33pm

#192 Big D

Putin is ex-KGB. He would kick Gore's fat, flaming ass.

194 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:55:37pm

I feel just awful.
I spoke to the troll......Sorry, it won't happen again.

195 The Real Travis  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:57:39pm
196 SoCalJustice  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:57:45pm

(#94) OR

This was certainly a stain upon the honor of my alma mater (although I'm sure most of the faculty in GULC thought this was just wonderful).


We have a professor (David Cole) who worked on behalf of known, admitted members of the PLFP to attempt to allow them to continue "fundraising" for whate he called "non-illegal" activities, despite the fact that the PLFP is a designated terrorist group, and says that any attempt on the part of the government to curtail such "fundraising" is a violation of the First Amendment.

He probably thought Gore was Hitler while he was in office - I know he thought Janet Reno was. He sued her to invalidate the 1996 Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act.

His complaint:

In the 1996 Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, Congress made it a crime, punishable by ten years in prison and a substantial fine, to provide any material support to a designated terrorist organization. Prior law had criminalized material support of terrorist activity, which required the government to show some connection between an individual’s support and the terrorist activity. Just as the Patriot Act later did with respect to immigration law, the 1996 statute dispensed with the requirement that the government prove a nexus to terrorist activity for criminal prosecutions. Under this law, like the Patriot Act, a person who supports a designated organization is liable even if he can show that his support was designed to discourage the group from engaging in violence and actually had that effect.

Um, Prof. Cole, how about discouraging the group from engaging in violence by, duh, not supporting it at all, or starting a new, non-terrorist group.

Prick. A very smart guy. A very nice guy. But still a prick.

197 Nannette  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 1:59:33pm

#192 - I'd also pay to see that LOL :-)

198 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:00:27pm

OT - Kerry blames Bush for partisanship in Washington

Kerry told donors at a $2 million breakfast fund-raiser and later in a speech to union workers that he canceled all his campaign events Tuesday to return to Washington to vote for more spending on veterans' health care.

"But oh, no," Kerry said at the fund-raiser. "Oh, no. Not in this Senate, not with these people. Once again, it's my way or the highway, shut the door, lock the people out, don't let them take part in the democracy, don't respect the institution. Don't show the common courtesies that actually bring people together to find the common ground. So they found a way all day to twiddle their thumbs, do very little, attend a reception at the White House, but not let John Kerry vote.

Oh that is it !!!

I will never ever ever even think about voting for J F'ing K. Do NOT EVER refer to yourself in the third-person. NEVER !!!

199 Owl  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:00:44pm
We really lucked out in Florida the last time.


No, really we didn't " luck out". I mean I guess we did....

if you mean about the close counts...but W was still ahead when the recounting stopped. The media will obviously "overlook" any revisitation of the last election during this next one. How easily they forget that they screwd up, and then proceeded to help the DNC try to screw the rightful winner out of the win. And THEN, in typical leftist fashion, they accused the opposition( the good guyus, ie conservatives) of trying to "steal the election". UNREAL.
I am hoping, and praying that they are in the middle of the end of their " liberal movement". Is it too tough to say that being a liberal is UNAmerican? I don't think so.

hey, AL....encore!


Owl

200 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:01:35pm

Here comes two weeks worth of gristle for the talking heads.

Cheney to Leahy: "Fuck You"

201 epg  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:03:59pm

First he flipflopped all over the place, and now he's stomping all over the SOUR GRAPES. He "let himself go," and has become a so "presidential." Providence smiled on us. Thank God for the hanging chads!

202 Barbara Skolaut  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:04:29pm
Gore defenders noted that on IQ tests taken in 1961 and 1964, Gore scored 133 and 134 respectively

Big frickin' hairy deal. I scored higher than that on my first-grade IQ test. And I know plenty of people a whole lot smarter than I am.

Gore's not all that smart (but we knew that), and in the past couple of years he's gone out of his way to make sure everybody knows it.

Wotta maroon.

203 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:05:15pm

#200 Dar ul Harbarian

Am I missing something in the article - was Cheney quoted with saying "F*ck you ?" Or was that just wishful thinking ;-)

204 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:07:29pm

#202 Barbara Skolaut

Gore's not all that smart (but we knew that), and in the past couple of years he's gone out of his way to make sure everybody knows it.

* years of working his security detail convinced me. He's a moron.

205 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:08:05pm

#203

I read it as being witnessed but not recorded

206 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:09:01pm

#203 Right Wing Conspirator

Or was that just wishful thinking ;-)

I was thinking the same thing. OTOH, I wouldn't doubt it!

207 johnCV  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:09:11pm

Al Gore and Ted Kaczynski. Ever see them together? I didn't think so.

ergo

Al Gore, is the unibumbler.

208 Amos (Zionist Minion)  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:12:05pm

I'm 95% sure this pic was photoshopped.

209 Dave Ray  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:13:22pm

OT:

Here's a link for my "friend" Bigel if he's there, if not could somebody tell him about it. While he's enjoying his delusions of mass destruction and all out nuclear holocaust.....he can use this site to name the military operation that will deliver the despicable weaponary!!

[Link: www.ubique.ch...]

happy planning me old mucker!

210 johnCV  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:13:33pm

Following on with LLL (non)logic

Clinton Lied, 3000 Died.


If clinton hadn't been so involved in trying to keep out of jail after he lied to the public, he would have been more involved in stopping terrorists. Right? I mean isn't that what the left would have us believe? If the antichrist Ken Starr had just left BC alone, he would have stopped OBL?

Clinton Lied, 3000 Died.


Hey this leftie (non)logic thing is fun. I'll try it on my 4 year old and see if he goes for it too.....

211 its jake  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:14:34pm

The Best Photoshopping EVER! ROFLMAO-PMMFP!!!

Amos - ROFL

212 Daybrother  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:14:41pm
213 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:14:51pm

#205 Dar ul Harbarian

So FU is what he is alleged to have said ?

#206 reaganite

Hell, with the media now...a Republican saying F-U will get as much airtime as if he would have called him a jerk. Might as well go for the gusto.

214 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:16:49pm

OK, I got it now. I didn't see the Drudge headline where it said that Cheney had said FU.

215 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:17:24pm

#204 reaganite

How did you survive that assignment with mental health intact?

216 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:17:49pm

#213 Right Wing Conspirator

Hell, with the media now...a Republican saying F-U will get as much airtime as if he would have called him a jerk. Might as well go for the gusto.

Well, it is something I'd say to him!

217 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:19:20pm

#215 Connecticut Yankee

How did you survive that assignment with mental health intact?

From what my team mates are telling me Clinton/Gore are preferable to the current candidate.

218 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:20:41pm

#213

OK...Drudge says he said "f*ck You"...CNN doesn't say that. They say they had a "frank exchange of views."

and "Frank View" rhythms with "F*ck You"

219 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:22:35pm

#217 reaganite:

C'mon now, I hear he's pretty affable - unless of course you cut him off on the slopes. Then you're an "asshole"

;-)

220 Atomic Redneck  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:23:11pm

To my fellow lizardoids who live in populated areas, be careful about opening the door to democrats. Fox news just announced that ACT (America Coming Together - one of our buddy George Soros' groups) is hiring ex-convicts including those convicted of violent offenses to register voters door-to-door. Beware of the man wearing the Kerry button knocking on your door!

221 its jake  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:23:21pm

Is Cheney the running mate?

222 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:25:30pm

#219 Cam

C'mon now, I hear he's pretty affable - unless of course you cut him off on the slopes. Then you're an "asshole"

I can't go into details because I don't want to get my team mates involved. Let's just say that him and his wife are, well, assholes.

223 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:26:31pm

Hugh Hewitt just commented on his blog that even the New Republic isn't backing Gore on this one:

New Republic editor Peter Beinart just branded that comment [about "digital brownshirts"] as stupid, but it is far worse, and not just because it again confirms Gore's instability, but because it demonstrates that the MoveOn.org's "Bush is Hitler" venom has spread deeper into the Democratic Party than most had thought. Take a look at the attendees at last night's Michael Moore opening. Can you imagine Jack Kennedy or Harry Truman attending such a thing? But Daschle was there and presumably part of the standing ovation. Hey, South Dakota blogs one, two, and three, how will that play in your state?

Hewitt also has some comments about Moore's film opening:

The Hotline also reported that "Moore was surrounded by bodyguards all evening."

That must have taken a lot of bodyguards.

Reaganite's team mates could have an even worse assignment than JFK.


[Link: hughhewitt.com...]

224 Mashiki  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:26:47pm

Oh that's beautiful. Uh...can we get a t-shirt of that?

225 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:27:30pm

#222 reaganite:

LOL. Don't worry, I don't need details. I can spot a dick a mile away...

BTW, are the details kept secret forever. F'rinstance, well Kerry loses in November, and thus no longer qualifies for a security detail, are the members of the team then free to talk about it?

226 Jheka  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:27:36pm

#212 Daybrother:

Did you see the Rex Reed "review" where he slobbers all over M. Moore? I fisk it here.

227 Drew  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:27:44pm

"...a network of ‘rapid response’ digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors..."

This is how Clinton/Gore were able to control the media.

Projectionism seems to be rampant on the left. Let them keep talking, and eventually they will hang themselves.

228 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:28:12pm

#220 Atomic Redneck

Heck, I would avoid them anyhow. On another note, I did get a nice booklet from some of the LaRouche kiddies that inhabit the street corners. I threw it away already, but remember that there was a headling "Beware of the Beast Cheney."

Faaaahhhhrrreeeeeekkkkkssssss.

229 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:29:59pm

#225 Cam

LOL. Don't worry, I don't need details. I can spot a dick a mile away...

Is that wh.....


nah

too easy :-P

230 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:30:30pm

#225 Cam

F'rinstance, well Kerry loses in November, and thus no longer qualifies for a security detail, are the members of the team then free to talk about it?

Trust me, I'll pass on everything I see once it's over. I can't speak for my team mates though.

The funny thing is, I have no fear of hurting anyone's career when I talk about the Republicans. Care to guess why I keep fairly mum on the Demos?

231 kehenry1  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:31:11pm

Hey...O'reilly is going to show that video where the little Jihadi children re-enact nick bergs murder.

Make sure you watch it.

232 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:31:56pm

#229 Right Wing Conspirator:

LOL. I didn't even really notice it 'til after I'd posted. Then I sat here waiting to see who'd pounce on it (Uh oh, another fine choice of words). I had you figured as a front runner.

233 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:34:18pm

#231 kehenry1
What time will it be on?

234 kehenry1  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:37:17pm

The media is cutting and pasting his speech. They are not repeating his "digital brownshirts" part.

Conveniently left out, even at fox.

235 grayp  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:37:36pm

#67 rockman

Gore has finally fallen through his own asshole and will reappear in another dimension.

Thank you very much, I now have to clean up the chardonnay I spit all over my desk.

236 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:37:41pm

#232 Cam

I am always on the lookout for stuff like that ;-)

237 Iron Fist  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:39:12pm

#204 reaganite,

Yeah, I met him at a townhall meeting in Union County when he was a Senator. I had the same impression, i.e. "Not too bright...", but he didn't come across as a bombastic asshole, either, let alone the seemingly near-psychotic freak that he's been lately.

That was twelve years or so ago, and people do change, but I think he has really gone clinically delusional. His perception of reality is not based in the factual universe, but in what his delusions tell him it is. He's not had a full-blown psychotic break (although before it is over, he may), but he's definately neurotic.

In his mind, the Evil Republicans are worse than al Qaeda.

[Voice of Gollum]

They stole the Election, My Preciousssss... They stole it! We hates them.

We hates them FOREVER!!!

Gollum! Gollum!

[/Voice of Gollum]

Once he gave up any intention of seeking public office again (and that had to be painful), it just broke him.

Poor man, and I mean that. He needs a nice, quite hospital for a while, and a good therapist. And Thorazine. Lots of Thorazine.

But my real question is what the fuck are the Democrats doing letting a raving lunatic become the spokesman for their Party? Do they really think that calling half of the country NAZIS is a good way to woo moderate swing voters who happen to sympathize with some of that side’s arguments?

After all, if we are Nazis, the lurkers who are sympathetic to our views are Nazi sympathizers.

Making sure you totally alienate everyone who isn’t lockstep with the Collective may work if you are Joe Stalin. I don’t see it as a winning strategy for John Kerry.

238 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:40:42pm

Where is Norsweigian Kafir?

O'Reilly is going to show the Jr. Jihad Club video you linked to. Doesn't that give you a thrill when something you find filters up to the mainstream media?

239 Canuckistan  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:40:59pm

YOU TELL 'EM, AL !!!!

240 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:45:26pm

Paging all Digital Brownshirts......Paging all Digital Brownshirts......

A thought criminal has been sighted in aisle #230

241 Baldy  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:45:53pm
punctuated by polite laughter and applause,

Polite? Polite? What does that imply?

242 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:46:15pm

Correction...aisle #239

243 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:46:19pm

#237 Iron Fist
It wasn't so much he was an asshole, just a moron. Although he had many assholish moments.

244 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:47:32pm

#242 Dar ul Harbarian

Correction...aisle #239

It's like a scab, if you pick at it, it only gets worse. Just leave it alone!

245 grayp  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:49:37pm

#130 ted

Could al Goor be abusing steroids, and suffering from what is commonly referred to as "roid rage"?

You know, I've been wondering if he has a drinking problem because his face is so puffy. But now that you mention in - I had to take that 6-day prednizone crap for a pinched nerve. My face blew up like a balloon and I was a nut case for two weeks.

Yeah, I could buy that Gore is on steroids. It would explain alot.

246 Canuckistan  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:51:30pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the majority of Americans voted for Gore in 2000. When the man speaks, lots of people listen.

247 D-Fens  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:52:51pm

Okay, now I'm starting to think that Canuckispaz is a froll.

248 Yehudit  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:54:17pm
There has to be a shitlocker load of Dems who, in the quiet of the nighht, take a deep breath and whisper........."Holy F**k, did we ever dodge a bullet in Florida. Thank God for hanging chads!"

Me too. I was part of the 37% of TX who voted for Gore.

But I still think Clinton was all-in-all a decent president.

249 johnCV  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:55:04pm

237 Iron Fist

This tirade of Gore's, as I mentioned in an earlier post, is doing very serious harm to the country. At a time when we are truly divided on deep philosophical issues, throwing vicious invective into the debate will cause even further ill will. It could push us even further.

There is a hefty percentage on the left that believes Bush is satan/hitler and no amount of reason will dissaude them. This perpetual drumbeat of damnable lies and falsehoods whose only purpose is to fire up the emotions of hate and mistrust by gore and his ilk can only
1. lead to civil chaos amongst the citizens
2. back fire badly and cement the death of the democrat party.

Niether of which serve American interests.

Damn him. I'm sorry, but I do not pity him. He wants to drag the whole country into his pit of rage.

250 Iron Fist  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:55:34pm

#239 Canuckistan,

For once I agree with you. I want to see more of this out of all the Democrats. Indeed, if we can get Kerry to start campaigning like this, it would be even better!

Hell, man, maybe he'll even fall on the floor and start gnawing at the carpet at the DNC Convention! Wouldn't that be great?!?

Keep up the good work, Al & Canuckistan ;-)

251 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:55:42pm
252 Baldy  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:56:24pm

Oh dear G-d, please forgive me. I voted for this entity.

253 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:57:09pm

#247 D-Fens

Okay, now I'm starting to think that Canuckispaz is a froll.

Nah, it's just that people have been either telling it to FOAD or just ignoring it. It's trying for a response and not getting it so it's getting shriller.

254 The Real Travis  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 2:58:17pm

Gore is representative of the Angry Left in this country at the moment. I shudder to think what is going to happen when Bush wins by a clear majority and they can't fall back on the "illigitimate president, stolen election" mantra. A few months back someone here predicted an LLL splodeydope in the next couple years. It somehow doesn't seem so far fetched after Gore's rants.

255 Baldy  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:01:55pm

I was not an enthusiatic supporter of Al "Ice-T" Gore in 2000, I just voted Democrat, like always. The MOMENT I heard he withdrew his concession to Gov Bush, he lost me. I spent the next few weeks screaming at the TV coverage of the recountrecountrecountrecount.

256 plo0ome  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:01:57pm
27 The Limey 6/24/2004 04:39PM PST


bigel don't forget to link to that piss poor website telling us how you're gonna kill us all.

If Israel ever loses the support of the US, it won't be because of the left, it'll be because of pricks like you.

no it will be because of assholes like you...You don;t like bigel exercising his right to free speech..you want to threaten abandoning Israel because of bigel's speech??

YOU STFU

257 PostalWorker  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:04:31pm

I love the flames coming out of Gore's ass.

258 JHW  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:04:50pm

I believe somebody at Fox must be keeping a close watch on LGF, this story on O`Reilly right now, also to bring up the beheading-training videos for the next generation of fanatics mentioned yesterday.

259 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:09:38pm

#247 D-Fens:

I only wish.

260 trackersmurf  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:11:20pm

"Digital Brownshirt"...

Now this is something I would wear on a T-shirt....

261 blutto43  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:11:37pm

" Guess its only a matter of time until the Digital Night of the Long Knives occurs... "

Oh well. Since I have become a brownshirt without even a free choice, then I guess my only response to the above comment is -----


BRING IT ON !!!!!!

262 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:11:49pm

#256 plo0ome

psssttt.....

I think your in the wrong thread :-)

263 Jefe  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:12:49pm
Indeed, if we can get Kerry to start campaigning like this, it would be even better!

Absolutely. Their new campaign strategy seems to be STFU & keep a low profile.

264 Baldy  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:14:19pm

JHW - I sent O'Reilly an email the other day (although about another LGF topic), AND I mentioned I'm a Democrat who never voted for a Republican before.

265 piglet  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:16:29pm
Rep. Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii, the top Democrat on a House of Representatives Armed Services subcommittee with jurisdiction over land forces. ...

1) He is really trying hard to win points with the new Republican jewish govenor.

2) WTF? You can shoot him, but no jew bullets.
And like what, are they engraved with
The IDF just capped your tuckass!

266 Iron Fist  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:21:13pm

#249 johnCV,

Actually, the further afield he goes like this, the less impact he will have for ill, at least in the short term. I know people who have been lifelong Democrats here in flyover country that are flat-out scared of their national Party. Some of these people will still vote Democrat in local and State elections, but I know people who have told me they just won't vote, rather than pull the lever for these barking moonbats.

I know others who have said they'd vote Libertarian, so don't think all the Libertarian drainis coming from the Republicans.

Going absolutely fuckin' nuts is a great strategy for winning a gang fight. When you tell dude that after you kneecap him and kick the shit out of him, you're going to hand-cuff his right hand to his left ankle, pour gasoline on him, and set him on fire, he generally don't come out and play. You win by default.

It's an awful strategy for winning an election. The sane people come out in droves 'cause they're scared shitless your side will win. A much more frightening scenario would be a sane-seeming Democratic Party, that laid out an alternative strategy that people like us would see where it was going to get Americans killed in droves, but your moderate swing voters would not.

Our great gift this election is Nader. Kerry and the Democrats have to cater to their moonbat wing. Not just the hard Left, but the treasonous Left, the people who are on the side of the 'splodeydopes, just to have the possibility of winning. And, with only a few exceptions, the Democrats are quite willing to do just that. That, in and of itself, is frightening.

But it is also what I believe will cost them not only this election, but several more Senate seats (and the House is Safe).

OTOH, long term you are entirely correct. I've been predicting the first 'splodeydope will be in 2005-2006 for some time, and I don't think it will be an Islamonazi.

It'll be an L ³ Moonbat. I think it is only a matter of time, and Algore and his ilk are bringing it closer.

267 plo0ome  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:25:21pm

262 Right Wing Conspirator


OH

well

nevermind

:-P

268 cathyf  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:34:27pm

#210 johnCV

If clinton hadn't been so involved in trying to keep out of jail after he lied to the public, he would have been more involved in stopping terrorists. Right? I mean isn't that what the left would have us believe? If the antichrist Ken Starr had just left BC alone, he would have stopped OBL?

...

Hey this leftie (non)logic thing is fun. I'll try it on my 4 year old and see if he goes for it too.....

Um, just a little advice from another parental unit: Don't go there, dad. Don't wanna hafta explain "blow-job" to the 4-yr-old!

cathy :-)

269 V the K  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:34:59pm

Reaganite, maybe you can confirm a rumor I heard. I used to work for the company that maintained Air Force 2. And one of the program managers told me of a female Air Force steward who was transferred off Vice President Gore's flight detail after complaining about his ... um, "Roman hands and Russian fingers." Any truth to that?

270 Stop Hillary  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:38:29pm

#260 -- "Now this is something I would wear on a T-shirt.... "

Hmmm, green skin and brownshirts. Lizardroids, this could be a good colormatch.

271 Trumpeter  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:39:41pm
They're blowing fire and brimstone out of all orfices; sound and fury signifying the death of the Democratic party.

Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

272 reaganite  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:40:35pm

#269 V the K

maybe you can confirm a rumor I heard.

Unfortunately, I can't. You'd be amazed at how closed lipped the AF types that fly those planes are.
I have heard similar rumors though.

273 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:43:55pm

V the K:

Was lookin' ferya earlier. Todd Bertuzzi has been charged with Assault Causing Bodily Harm by the Vancouver PD. And I'm supposed to drill a well for him in the fall.

Better get paid before the lawyers do...

274 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:44:54pm
275 Baldy  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:47:13pm

I am glad they (DEMONcrats) are acting like pyschos now, but I wish they would shape up quickly.

*Terry McAwful says he believes the War in Afghanistan was about a pipeline, and that he believes Fahrenheit 9/11.
*Julian Bond (NAACP?) mentions the "Taliban wing of the Republican Party",
*Hillary visits the troops in AFghanistan (Nov 03), and decides its a good time to raise doubts about the mission and the Commander in Chief.
*McDermott & whatisname visit Iraq and spew anti-American crap,
*Patty Murray mentions the "good works" of Osama, *Kerry says Al-Sadr is a "legitimate voice."
*Hillary fawns over George Soros.
*Al Gore speaks at MoveOn.urg events...

The world is not a safe place (Islam, China...), and eventually, they'll be in the White House again. I would like both parties to understand that the most important issue is national security.

276 cathyf  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:49:42pm

#251 Rayra

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Israeli-made bullets bought by the U.S. Army to plug a shortfall should be used for training only, not to fight Muslim guerrillas in Iraq and Afghanistan, U.S. lawmakers told Army generals on Thursday.
Since the Army has other stockpiled ammunition, "by no means, under any circumstances should a round (from Israel) be utilized," said Rep. Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii, the top Democrat on a House of Representatives Armed Services subcommittee with jurisdiction over land forces. ...

Hey, 10 seconds of thought would make the RoP'ers beg for the IDF bullets. Those jooooz stay away from that non-kosher stuff, but the goyim at smith & wesson might just soak every piece of ammo in pig blood before it leaves the assembly line. Just for the hell of it

***bwahahahahaha***

cathy :-)

277 Barbara Skolaut  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:51:08pm

#224 Mashiki - Great idea! I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

Now all we need is a really good slogan....

278 V the K  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 3:58:10pm

1. Dick Cheney, you speak for all of us. But I can not help wondering if his barbaric yawp was the cri de coeur of a guy who's just been told... "Try not to take lunch in your office anymore, Rudy has a thing about cockroaches."

2. The real kicker for me, in terms of what I like to call "The Florida Miracle," was best expressed by the formula... Chinese Campaign Donations, $400,000 dollars... Coordinated Attack Ads with the NAACP, $350,000... Overall campaign spending, $500 million dollars...

Losing the election because your base is too stupid and/or too senile to fill out a ballot correctly... priceless.

279 V the K  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:03:36pm
Todd Bertuzzi has been charged with Assault Causing Bodily Harm by the Vancouver PD

Oh, please let it be for a fiercesome kick to Svend Robinson's gonads... in skates.

280 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:07:47pm

#279 V the K:

LMAO! On a happy note, Svend has been charged with theft over stealing that ring. I'm sure he'll do real well in the crowbar motel...

;-)

281 Iron Fist  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:09:10pm

#278 V the K,

You just made me laugh so demonically that the Girlfriend and the Birds are hiding behind the Christmas Presents in the closet :-P

282 godfrey  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:16:56pm

I bet Cheney's choice words just shored up a lot of support for his being tapped as VP again this year. Frank, combative, direct, decisive. That's the team we need. Go Dick.

Leahy's a worthy adversary: he's sharp, tough, and totally despicable.

283 SwampWoman  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:40:00pm

Reaganite, I read your comments re protecting the various folks in the White House, but the husband is SURE that the number #1 pain in the ass EVER for the SS (or anybody else) has GOT to be Hillary.

If it ain't, let him down easy, hear? He's probably happy in the thought that there might be somebody more difficult to live with than me out there.

284 zulubaby  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:41:57pm

Cheney told someone to fuck off. Did anyone post the link yet?

285 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:42:35pm

#283 Swampy:

LMAO!

286 zulubaby  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:43:30pm
287 lazytart  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:44:55pm

Is it the drinking thread? YET??

288 Cam  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:47:52pm

#287 lazytart:

Ahem. Some of us are drinking on 8+ threads...

;-)

289 SwampWoman  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 4:49:21pm

#287 Lazytart

Well, I gots to go back to work, but drank a cold one fer me, hear?

290 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 5:03:35pm

#287 lazytart

Is it the drinking thread? YET??

I'm not sure, but it looks as if Algore's gotten into the 151 already.

291 danrudy  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 5:09:05pm

In the words of Woody Allen (another patriot)

" There is nothing wrong with him that 13 Xanax and a polo mallet couldnt cure"

292 SwampWoman  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 5:25:32pm
Gore also accused the Bush administration of working closely “with a network of ‘rapid response’ digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for ‘undermining support for our troops.’”

Damn, I knew UPS was workin' on offerin' up new services, but I didn't expect THAT! Go BROWN!

293 Darleen  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 5:38:49pm

Oh good god... Cheney uses the "f" word and that's a "new low"?

And the gratuitous and seditious exchange between Uncle Teddy and Pat Leahy, the leaders of the Vichy wing of the Democratic Party the other day, was ...what?!

argh.

294 jinnderella  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 5:50:45pm

Hi Swampwoman! is this the Algore-morphs-into a dragon-welcomeback-realwest-drinking-thread?

295 Stinky  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 5:57:28pm

275 Baldy:

*Terry McAwful says he believes the War in Afghanistan was about a pipeline, and that he believes Fahrenheit 9/11.

That's frightening. On top of sickening and infuriating. McAuliffe was picked by Clinton to run the DNC, it was during Clinton's term when that pipeline thing began and ended (in 1998), it was Clinton's admin that was contemplating normalizing relations w/ the Taliban...

...And this SOB is either cynical enough, evil enough, disjointed from reality enough, to think it that this will either A.) fly w/ the American people or B.) actually be true? WTF is wrong w/ this species?

Al Gore, from 1992-2002, cited Saddam's ties to terrorism, the threat of his WMDs, was critical of Bush Sr. going soft, and according to Kenneth Pollack in "The Threatening Storm", Gore never met an Iraqi invasion policy he didn't like...all of the sudden starts rationalizing Saddam's existence, starts equating U.S. soldiers sent to liberate a country from tyranny, soldiers who prance Arab men naked over a 2-3 day period...equating this to the totalitarian (in practice and ideology) Soviet Gulag? "Abu Ghraib", U.S. style, is comparable to one of the worst systems in human history, yet "Abu Ghraib", Saddam style (w/ decapitations and 1000s killed in a day executions and babies smashed against walls and tapings of girls getting raped and dismemberments) is non causus belli? WTF is wrong w/ this species?

Michael Moore, films a movie about the war in Iraq, does not mention once in his 2 hour leftist masterpiece, the torture that Saddam forced on the Iraqis. No mention of the chemical attacks, of Turkish sons watching their mothers die, unable to hug or kiss their dying mothers or they themselves will be contaminated...children surviving mass executions, staying alive for hours under their dead parents in those ditch graves, many then die of the pressure or suffocation or thirst, imagine being 10 years old and trapped and suffocating because your dead and cooling dad and mom are laying on top of you, crushing your bones...no mention of oil for food corruption, no mention of the common knowledge amongst the media--before 9-11--that Saddam and Ossama were trying to hook up, no mention of Saddam stealing 2/5th of his country's cash reserves the night before the war (the largest bank heists in the history of the world)...no no no, Moore pretends Iraq is a nice, decent place where kids play on jungle gyms and people go to work and everything's fine and hunkie dory...

And this atrocious, *evil* film (it is evil), has the potential to hypnotize a bunch of unregistered Gen-Yers into becoming more worthless Che Guevarra T-shirt wearers and thus potentially tip the election? WTF is wrong with this species?

And everyone in Europe loves Terry McAuliffe, Al Gore, and Michael Moore. Psychotic. These Leftists are psychotic, or sociopathic, or both. This is just regarding the War on Terror.

On top of all of this, John Kerry wants to do to the American economy what those genius French and German Socialists have done to their respective economies, you know, unsustainable entitlements, 1.2% economic growth, 10% unemployment...

Sec of State Al Gore. Finance Sec Paul Krugman (a man who has, amazingly, been wrong on EVERY prediciton he has EVER made regarding ANY economy in the HISTORY of man!). Sec of Defense Ramsey Clarke. Attorney General Michael Moore. Ambassador to Israel Noam Chomsky. That's a Kerry cabinet for you.

That's the leadership of the Left these days. These are nutcases on the fringe, THIS IS THE FORMER CANDIDATE AND THE CURRENT HEAD OF THE PARTY. Where are the responsible, respectable Democrats in the tradition of Truman, JFK, hell, Humphrey? The DNC, as is, doesn't deserve 52% of the vote, 45%, 35%, 25%, not even 10%. And it's scary that not only do the American people not see that, but that the rest of the world enthusiastically does not see that. Out of Mind, Out of Sight.

Sorry for the length of the rant...

296 HULUGU  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 6:47:30pm

er....being a lizardoid--i always considered myself a digital greenshirt--nobody wears brown shirts anymore--that went out with puffed pants-sam browns-and teeny half mustaches

297 NY Nana  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 7:03:23pm

#274 Rayra

Oh, shit, he'sl it's posting? I won't read past your post. If anyone has posted albore's full rant, sorry, but a warning to those who have not..take an anti-nausea med and a brb before reading, as you will laugh, puke and scream...simultaneously.....

GORE TEXT

Don't say I didn't warn you!

298 SteveG  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 7:16:18pm

Digital Brownshirts who are using Algore's own weapon (the internet0 against him!!! LOL!

299 gymnast  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 8:26:33pm

Al Gore has crossed the bridge to the 21st century. Not only did he invent the internet, he has become the the official digital brown stain. Tipper refers to him, affectionatly, as her very own digital skidmark. Clinton calls him something else.

300 Stop Hillary  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 8:27:16pm

#297 NY Nana -- "GORE TEXT
Don't say I didn't warn you! "


Thanks for the full text, I think.

The man is stark staring nuts.

It's frightening and, yes, even sad in a way. One would like to think that some adult in the DNC would find this embarrassing and put a stop to it.

Sadly, the DNC sees Al Gore as moderate in even his most extreme moments.

301 schroedinger's cat  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 8:30:39pm

How do I sign up for the Digital Brownshirt Squadron of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Regiment?

302 Bleeding heart conservative  Thu, Jun 24, 2004 8:47:47pm

#188 SteveG and #234

Fox News had a special report from Major Garret, showing videotape from 1992 campaign, in which Gore EXCORIATES Bush 41 for not taking out Saddam: he cites a litany of Saddam terror connections, and cites the threat of Saddam getting a nuclear weapon.
This was in a live debate with Larry King Moderating.

303 JustAHouseWife  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 3:02:11am

#124 peace be upon me and algore ,

Do you not know that peace can not be achieved by hating anyone? True peace starts within your heart and spreads out ward and on ward enveloping the world like a cool pink breeze of love. Tis the only way my grasshoppers. Breathe.

Learning things from the internet only again? Ah little ones..that is not good.

Go now..off the computer, off the stage my grasshoppers! go embrace the world... see, live, experience it. Spread peace in it's purest sense and above all be humble.

(geez I need more coffee or somthing lmao)

304 Bluesky3  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 3:04:37am

Dosn't Al Gore remember that in 1992 he and Clinton were VERY, VERY proud of their "war room" operation which was an organization designed to release press reports and pressure news organizations about President Bush's press releases? Sounds like a "Ditigal Brownshirt" opperation to me. Jeez, what a jerk.

305 johnCV  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 3:32:55am

295 Stinky

Well said, got me pissed off all over again.......


Something has to give. Either the moonbats will self immolate and the sane portion of the world will see them as they really are OR the psycosis will spread among the currently rational and we will be in for a period of craziness not seen since, since, I don't know when.
Reality will take a holiday.

306 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 3:42:14am

11. "Actually, the 'digital brownshirts' reference was Naomi Wolfe's idea... Earth tones are her answer to everything."

12. "Ah, St. George, my old nemesis... so we meet again."

13. Confirming the epidemiologists' worst fears... the pathogens for Bush Derangement Syndrome and Explosive Diarrhea have combined to form a ghastly new strain.

14. "Let me show you a trick I learned while flunking out of Vanderbilt... all you need is a Zippo lighter and a gallon jug of Everclear..."

15. Garry Trudeau's representation of Clinton (a waffle) and Gingrich (a bomb) were much less controversial than the symbol he chose for Barney Frank.

16. "Polite laughter and applause... that's it? You die now! Burn in Hell!"

307 madmark  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 3:44:23am

#119 sharona

I would be very interested in a LGF Chicago get together. Please email me!

308 kj  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 3:54:15am

It's fun to pretend, isn't it? Its fun to pretend that Bush is a military jenius who's doing his utmost to protect us from terra. Its fun to pretend that Saddam, who couldn't even hit Israel, much less England, much, much less America, is a greater threat to us than Bin Laden. And its fun to pretend that Gore wouldn't have obliterated the Taliban IF 9-11 had occurred on his watch, isn't it? (A pretty big "if" at that.) Its fun to pretend that had 9-11 occurred on Gores watch, that the rep-cons would have “joined forces with the presidency to fight terror” and NOT impeached Gore.

It's really, REALLY fun to pretend that "God" chose W to lead us.

I guess it was "Gods will” that Bin Laden attacked us on 911, too, right? Because prior to that, Bush was doing pretty bad in the polls. Maybe it was also Gods will that Bin Laden made his escape from Tora Bora... too bad we didn't send in a big invasion force when we hit Afghanistan. I guess those invasions are saved for the BIG threats; you know, like Saddam with all his nukes. And just a few months ago, Pakistan had Bin Laden's right-hand man cornered. After a few days of stand-off fighting, he just ran away through a tunnel. Too bad America didn't have any warplanes in the region to just blast the whole fort to smithereens, tunnels and all.

It seems to me that none of this is Gods will; its W's will. But to most of you there probably isn't much difference.

But the funniest thing for online Brownshirts is to pretend that they are actually liberals/democrats, and then bray on and on about how glad they are that W was appointed to lead us, because "...Can you imagine how Gore would have handled the 9-11 attacks?" (Answer: probably the same way Clinton handled the terror attacks planned for us on Y2K. Remember the bombings on Seattle and LA. and the 15 planes downed over the Pacific? No? That's because they were THWARTED.)

I couldn't help but notice the (first fifty or so; all I could read) commenters "forgot" to disprove Gore’s message. As a nation we were duped into sending our troops to get Saddam, while Bin Laden remains at large. Asscroft and Ridge have already assured us that another terror attack this summer is practically guaranteed. "IF" such a thing transpires, how are you going to blame that on Clinton? Oh, I forgot... you will blame it on John Kerry and Mike Moore.


REALITY CHECK
Reagan: 241
Clinton: 19 (sent by Bush Sr.)
W: 850 and counting


See the difference? I guess maybe W really is better at some things than his predecessors.

309 steve miller  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 3:57:22am

I was with you until you misspelled "genius."

310 reaganite  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 3:59:13am

#308 kj
WOW! Of course, how could we have been so stupid! You have changed my mind. Al Gore is a living demigod!

Idiot.

311 kj  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:01:06am

I did it on purpose. Duh. As in "Bush is jenius".

312 kj  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:03:09am

A good way to check for b.s. is to take someones argument, change key words to match the "opposite" argument, and see if it makes just as much sense in the other direction. E.g:


WOW! Of course, how could we have been so stupid! You have changed my mind. George Bush is a living demigod!


Idiot.

313 reaganite  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:05:11am
who's doing his utmost to protect us from terra.

Somebody tell the tree huggers! The earth is attacking us!

314 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:05:18am
Remember the bombings on Seattle and LA. and the 15 planes downed over the Pacific? No? That's because they were THWARTED.

Yeah, thwarted because ONE border crossing agent defied Clinton Admin policy and racially profiled a suspicious-acting ROP-er coming over from Canada. Clinton and his minions were too busy trying to make sure the CIA and FBI couldn't share info, turning down Sudan's offer of Osama bin Laden, and... oh yeah... actually pardoning terrorists to help his wife's senate bid.

315 a soldier's dad  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:21:30am

It's fun to pretend that us LLLs were all for going after the Taliban in Afganistan. It's fun to pretend that Pakistan doesn't have internal differences of opinion that make it less than effective at pursuing Al-Qaida within it's borders. It's fun to pretent that there were no mass graves in Iraq. It's fun to pretend that there were no terror training camps nor WMDs there either. It's fun to pretend that Al Gore is a genius, only surpassed by Hill and Billary. It's fun to pretend that the entire federal government and American military were suddenly changed into subservient puppets to the evil Bushitler as soon as he got elected. It's fun to pretend that there are no good reasons for our soldiers to be battling jihadiis in Iraq instead of waiting for them to come fight us right here on our own soil. It's fun to pretend that Ol' McDonald had a farm, eee, iii, eee, iii, oooooo.....

316 azul93gt  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:31:12am

JoKe,

Pakistan had Bin Laden's right-hand man cornered. After a few days of stand-off fighting, he just ran away through a tunnel. Too bad America didn't have any warplanes in the region to just blast the whole fort to smithereens, tunnels and all.

Just about every point that you tried to make is pure fantasy, wild specualtion, or utterly fallacious, but the above gem is particularly absurd. The reason why we didn't level that terrorist lair is not because of lack of availibility of assets in the area. It is because the location of this lair was inside our obstensible ally Pakistan.

I guess your next absurd assertion from your Kookie alternate reality will be that *Herr Feld Marshall Gore would have marched right into Pakistan regardless.

*Gore would assumed this rank after he personally shot down those two jets with only his two pearl handled revolvers on 911.

317 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:38:54am

It's fun to pretend that Al Franken is witty and insightful. It's fun to pretend that Michael Moore has the goods. It's fun to pretend that all of Clinton's failings were the result of a vast right wing conspiracy. It's fun to pretend that the military and intelligence operations weren't gutted and ham-strung by political correctness under the Clintons. It's fun to pretend that the French and German had legitimate diplomatic goals in Iraq and weren't just trying to protect their oil contracts with Saddam's regime and their possible violation of trade sanctions. It's fun to pretend that up until 2003, the French weren't lobbying to lift sanctions against Saddam. It's fun to pretend that the UN is a flawless organization that works for the common good of humanity, and not a corrupt cesspool of bureaucratic avarice, whose membership is dominated by countries run by authoritarian despots. it's fun to pretend that Bush is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, and Genghis Khan combined and that free speech is being violently repressed by "digital brownshirts," even as a hatred-spewing film-maker gets massive publicity for a propaganda film assailing the "anti-free speech" Bush-Ashcroft junta. It's fun to pretend that the best response to terrorism is to hire 100,000 more unionized government employees ("first responders") to clean up the blood after the next attack. It's fun to pretend that anyone who supports the war and opposes John Kerry is a mindless Bush-supporter rather than someone whose looked at both sides and concluded... as bad as Bush is, the alternative is worse. It's fun to pretend that same-sex civil marriage is more important than preserving Western Civilization. It's fun to pretend that a Democrat's past voting record (appease the enemy, slash the military, gut intelligence) is irrelevant because he'll do the right thing once elected. It's fun to pretend that Gore would have responded much differently to 9-11 than his predecessor did to previous terror attacks throughout his administration. (i.e. lob some cruise missiles at empty tents and aspirin factories, arrest a few low-level players but leave the terror network intact.)

It's fun to pretend, but sooner or later you have to grow up... unless one happens to be a loony left liberal.

318 a soldier's dad  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:43:34am

#317 V the K

Excellent continuation...

I yield to the representative from Maryland(?) with far superior blogging skills...

319 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:44:18am

I had some time to think about this, but I think Al Gore's speech was an effort to impress his Hollywood buddies into letting him star in the 2005 remake of The Producers.

He wants to take over the role of Roger de Bris (the gay producer for Springtime for Hitler). Or maybe, he thinks that he can play Hitler better since he's using all those codewords.

320 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:46:45am

Remember...the 15 planes downed over the Pacific? No? That's because they were THWARTED.

Remember that the bust was in MANILA?

NO? That's because you're an IDIOT.

321 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:54:35am

#318 --- Thank you, soldier's dad. (I hope to be one too, and I hope his CINC's name doesn't rhyme with 'tillery.')

Unfortunately, it's also fun to pretend that there is any value in feeding a deluded flatliner troll. However, sometimes idiocy cannot go unanswered.

#319 lawhawk --- I thought he was auditioning for The Hobbit, co-starring Robert Reich as Frodo Baggins and James Carville as Smeagol ("We wants it. We wants the precious-s-s-s-s-s.")

The gentlemen in the horns and tail from Maryland yields back the balance of his time.

322 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 4:55:32am

It's also fun to pretend that anything but sheer luck saved us from up to a quarter million casualties when the World Trade Center was hit the first time.

323 a soldier's dad  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:04:58am

V the K

Yeah, but feeding trolls here is such good practice for responding to LLLs and moonbats in the real world. Keeps you sharp. I love the angry "how dare he have a conservative opinion" or frightened "this guy is a right-wing loon and may be armed" looks that you get when you are real good at answering their lunacy...

;-)

324 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:07:05am

And it's even more fun to pretend that Clinton's tail-between legs retreat from Somalia didn't embolden Bin Laden et all.

And it's delightfully fun to pretend that Clinton-appointed FBI chief Louis Freeh's effective takeover of the CIA (following the Aldrich Ames scandal) didn't seriously weaken the CIA.

And it's hysterically fun to pretend that Clinton's ignoring Sudan's offer of Bin Laden, followed a few years later by his bombing a pharmaceutical plant in that same country, thwarted any terrorist incidents.

And it's rolling on the floor laughingly fun to pretend that Clinton's bombing of a empty patches of sand in Afghanistan made Usama sit up and take notice in the slightest.

And it's fuckingly fun to pretend that the Clinton administration actually gave the Bush administration a clear warning of the dangers that lay in store.

325 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:08:29am

"this guy is a right-wing loon and may be armed"

Heheheh....anyone remember the line about the naked guy in one of the Dirty Harry movies?

326 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:11:07am

#322 Frank

Yeah, sheer luck with a large dose of ineptitude on the part of the (initial) bombers. The 2nd WTC attack could also have been far, far worse.

327 a soldier's dad  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:13:30am

Frank IBC

Been a couple years since I've watched a rerun of that one. Refresh my memory??

328 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:15:56am

Soldier's Dad -

Never mind - I just checked the quotes from that movie and I think I got it mixed up. :(

329 a soldier's dad  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:19:39am

LOL...

I was thinking something along the lines of 44 Mag vs. pee shooter...

330 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:30:13am

17. Taking credit for someone else's achievement once again, Al Gore recounts when he was in the alps/ Fighting grizzly bears/And used his magical fire breath/And saved the maidens fair.

18. During a "heated" Democratic debate, Al Sharpton's hair oil spontaneously combusts, leaving nothing but a pile of ash and an odd smear of green slime.

19. "I love you flamey... you're my best friend ... come here an give me a hug."

20. Steve Jobs fireball cost Al Gore 40 hit points... And another meeting of the Apple Board collapsed into a vigorous argument over how much protection the Wizard's Rune actually afforded.

331 Inspector Callahan  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:39:22am

anyone remember the line about the naked guy in one of the Dirty Harry

Be glad to oblige - it's my namesake.

"When a man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross!"

TV (Harry)

332 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:44:21am

Inspector Callahan -

Yeah, that's the one.

For some reason, I remembered it as "naked...armed with only a [second weapon listed in actual quote]". Maybe it's in one of the later DH movies.

Anyone remember Joe Piscopo as Tom Snyder, fired and staying in a cheap motel and babbling maniacally? Algore is approaching that stage.

333 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:47:19am

21) In a pathetic attempt at stand-up comedy, Algore imitates John Belushi in the cafeteria scene in Animal House:

"I'm a flaming hemorrhoid, get it?!?!?"

334 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:49:43am

Whenever I try to play "Dueling Captions" with V the K, I always end up feeling like that funny-lookin' kid in Deliverance. :(

335 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:49:47am
He’s gonna blow.

Which are also the three words heard most frequently before a John Kerry speech.

336 rebmiami  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:55:07am

kj:

I guess it was "Gods will” that Bin Laden attacked us on 911, too, right?....
It seems to me that none of this is Gods will; its W's will.

We'll never beat you LLL's because your rhetoric meters go to "eleven".

337 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 5:55:10am

He's gonna blow

Hmmm...that explains why you never see John Effin' Kerry, Algore, and Dean on stage at the same time...

The stage would look like the final scenes of Mars Attacks, and they wouldn't even need any Slim Whitman music.

338 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 6:04:11am

He's gonna blow continued...

2004 Presidential Debates -

{POP!!!!}

Bush blinks hard, takes a moment to flick cranial and other tissues that have been spewed upon his suit jacket, but remains otherwise unpreturbed, and launches into his (now moot) rebuttal.

339 Hhar  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 6:39:00am

I had a cat once that was absent minded. She'd be walking along the counter, not looking where she was going, and step off into midair, fall to the floor in a mad scrabble, pick herself up, and calmly look around with an expression of "I meant to do that."

I did it on purpose. Duh. As in "Bush is jenius".

kinda reminds me of that cat. Only the cat was smarter.

340 kj  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 6:42:48am

Yeah, thwarted because ONE border crossing agent defied Clinton Admin policy and racially profiled a suspicious-acting ROP-er coming over from Canada. Clinton and his minions were too busy trying to make sure the CIA and FBI couldn't share info, turning down Sudan's offer of Osama bin Laden, and... oh yeah... actually pardoning terrorists to help his wife's senate bid.

Its amazing what the FBI, CIA, etc. can do when they arent' obsessed with chasing potheads, online pornographers, and the Oregon Euthanasia law, isn't it? It's called "FOLLOWING UP."

Turning down Osama from Sudan? The same Sudan that's been training Alqeada for 10 years? THAT Sudan? LOL. Yeah, those Muslims jihadis are always looking for a way to turn each other over to the US, huh?

Pardoned a terrorist? Does Ken Starr now about that?

341 kj  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 6:44:44am

"Terra." Its making fun of Drunkya's pathetic, phony, "aw shucks, ma'am" accent.

If I write noo-cue-ler, will you accuse me of botching that too?

342 azul93gt  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 6:57:35am

#341 kj 6/25/2004 08:44AM PST

Are you telling us that Clinton didn't pardon any convicted terrorists?

343 EW1(SG)  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 6:57:54am

#341 kj:

If I write noo-cue-ler, will you accuse me of botching that too?

Yep.

344 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 7:27:45am
kinda reminds me of that cat. Only the cat was smarter.


I'm willing to bet your cat coughed up things that were smarter.

345 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 7:29:11am

Hey, the Dowdification is now complete. It took the AP less than 2 hours to eliminate the brown shirt reference.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

No reference to the brown shirts anywhere.

Compare it with the original article:
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Guess which one went to the printers for publication around the world.

The one omitting Gore's obviously rediculous assertion and insane reference to Republicans as Nazis.

346 kj  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 7:41:02am

Republicans aren't all Nazis, but both are conservative, both are "doing God's will", both hate homosexuals, both want to outlaw abortion, both don't like "uppity women", both "know what's best for us", both hate minorities, both hate commies, both hate unions... hey, this is also a mark of the Jihadis! My oh my what tangled webs we weave.

347 azul93gt  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 7:45:03am

#341 kj 6/25/2004 08:44AM PST

Turning down Osama from Sudan? The same Sudan that's been training Alqeada for 10 years? THAT Sudan? LOL. Yeah, those Muslims jihadis are always looking for a way to turn each other over to the US, huh?


Secondly, when challenged as to why the Clinton Administration passed up on the offer of bin Laden's extradition Samuel Berger stated, "In the
United States, we have this thing called the Constitution, so to bring him here is to bring him into the justice system. I don't think that was
our first choice."

CONTINUING DISHONESTY ON SUDAN BY MADELEINE ALBRIGHT, SUSAN RICE et al

Even the Clinton administration admits that they passed up on OBL. What's your deal?

348 kj  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 7:46:00am

And it's even more fun to pretend that REAGAN's tail-between legs retreat from LEBANON didn't embolden THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS et all.

349 kj  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 7:55:42am

And it's delightfully fun to pretend that Clinton-appointed FBI chief Louis Freeh's effective takeover of the CIA (following the Aldrich Ames scandal) didn't seriously weaken the CIA.

As proven by all those terrorist attacks of Y2k.

And it's hysterically fun to pretend that Clinton's ignoring Sudan's offer of Bin Laden, followed a few years later by his bombing a pharmaceutical plant in that same country, thwarted any terrorist incidents.

Almost as much fun as pretending that a Muslim, Arab warlord that ran Sudan would actually turn in another Muslim, Arab warlord. That is funny, but Rush Limbaugh said it was so it must be true, no matter how absurd it is.

At least he tried to get Bin Laden, until the Moonie Times tipped him that he was targeted for death.

I have been begging conservatives for years to name one thing Bush did to fight terror prior to 911. And I have never gotten a reply. I'm sure that with all these witty, intellectual conservatives here, at least one of them won't forget to tell me now. Don't forget now.

And it's rolling on the floor laughingly fun to pretend that Clinton's bombing of a empty patches of sand in Afghanistan made Usama sit up and take notice in the slightest.

I bet you were laughing your ass off when W apologized to the Chinese after they shot our plane down, weren't you? Oh, wait... no you weren't. You were busy trying to blame it on Clinton, and come up with 7 different meanings for the word "Sorry."

And it's fuckingly fun to pretend that the Clinton administration actually gave the Bush administration a clear warning of the dangers that lay in store.

Of course he couldn't have, after all, he's the evil Slick Willie. You must hate him; you have to. Even though he didn't send our troops off to die in Iraq for nothing.

350 The Real Travis  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 7:56:18am

#346

What are you, kj, 13 years old? Did you get your caricature of conservatives from a comic book?

1. Nazis didn't believe in religion, neither do communists, neither do leftists. "My, oh my, what tangled webs we weave."

2. Those well known anti-unionists, the jihadis are at it again. If we had just allowed Walmart to unionize, 9/11 would never have happened.

3. "Conservatives hate minorities." Tell that to my brother, whose wife is black. He is more conservative than Limbaugh.

4. Not liking "uppity women" seems to be a common problem with leftists. Why, you guys hate Condi most because she's both black and female.

5. I'm pretty sure "knowing what's best for us" is the domain of your preferred party. Does the term "Nanny State" mean anything to you?

Go back to DU now, troll. Come back when you learn to argue.

351 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 7:58:09am

Lileks on the "digital brownshirts" quote:

We don’t expect presidential candidates past or present to indulge in Usenet flame-war lingo. We don’t expect serious party elders to call the other side Nazis, and for good reason: it’s obscene. The brownshirts were evil. The brownshirts kicked the Jews in the streets and made the little kids put their hands on their heads as they stumbled off to the trains. The brownshirts were not interested in refuting arguments. They were interested in killing the people who dared argue at all.
At some point, I fear, the political discourse of 2004 is going to seem horribly irrelevant and misplaced in the face of some loud new wretched horror; it will seem as oddly disconnected from reality as the Condit / Killer-Shark news reports of August 2001. An indolent luxury.

(Also, if Gnat winds up getting multiple piercings and turning NeoGothPunk when she's 16, it will possibly be because dad wrote about her bedwetting in this same piece, and published it on the World Wide Web... sheesh.)

Anyway:

I'll pretend for moment that kj is interested in actual debate:

Republicans aren't all Nazis, but both are conservative

If you can say with a straight face that Nazis were "conservatives", this is a pretty clear indication that you don't have the faintest idea what a "Nazi" is. Do some reading, kid.

both are "doing God's will"

And Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke in much the same terms; so I guess MLK was a Nazi.

both hate homosexuals,

Right, all those homos who have been rounded up by the Republican party and forced to wear pink triangles and live in concentration camps.

both want to outlaw abortion

Um, no; again, please read a little history; during the Nazi regime abortion became legal for the first time in German history. (By the way, I am NOT equating abortion rights advocates with Nazis in any way; just pointing out kj's historical illiteracy.)

both don't like "uppity women", both "know what's best for us"

And those two quotes are from...?

both hate minorities

Yep, Republicans relegate blacks to the most menial of labors, such as National Security Advisor, Supreme Court Justice, Secretary of State, etc.
You could also explain this to the CEO of Merrill Lynch, Stan O'Neal, who is both black and Republican.

both hate commies

Yes, Republicans have this mindless aversion to an ideology that has killed approximately 100 million people. Go figure.

352 azul93gt  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:04:40am
Almost as much fun as pretending that a Muslim, Arab warlord that ran Sudan would actually turn in another Muslim, Arab warlord...

Isn't that what occurred in Afghanistan?

PS: NSDAP were socialists.

353 kj  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:10:05am

It's fun to pretend that Bill O'Reilly is witty and insightful. It's fun to pretend that Matt Drudge has the goods. It's fun to pretend that all of Reagan/Bush/Bush's failings are the result of a vast left-wing, media conspiracy. It's fun to pretend that the military and intelligence operations WERE gutted and ham-strung by political correctness under the Clintons (THE SAME MILITARY OPERATIONS THAT DEFEATED THE SERBS, THE TALIBAN AND IRAQ.) It's fun to pretend that Bush, Haliburton, et al. had legitimate MILITARY goals in Iraq and weren't just trying to protect their oil contracts with CHALABI's regime. It's fun to pretend that up until 2001, CHENEY'S COMPANY wasn't lobbying to lift sanctions against AND DOING BUSINESS WITH Saddam. It's fun to pretend that the GOP is a flawless organization that works for the common good of humanity, and not a corrupt cesspool of bureaucratic avarice, whose membership is dominated by states run by authoritarian despots. it's fun to pretend that Clinton is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, and Genghis Khan combined and that free speech is being violently repressed by "the media elite," even as a hatred-spewing radio show host gets massive publicity for a drug bust/doctor shopping/obstruction of justice AND FREE HELP FROM THE ACLU. It's fun to pretend that the best response to terrorism is to hire Haliburton to destroy, then rebuild Iraq.. It's fun to pretend that anyone who opposes the war and opposes Bush is a mindless Kerry-supporter rather than someone whose looked at both sides and concluded... otherwise. It's fun to pretend that homosexuals aren't people, and shouldn't have the same rights as the rest of us. It's fun to pretend that a Cheney's past voting record (appease the enemy, slash the military, gut intelligence) is irrelevant because he'll do the right thing once elected. It's fun to pretend that Gore would have responded much differently to 9-11 than his REAGAN did to previous terror attacks throughout his administration

It's fun to pretend, but sooner or later you have to grow up... unless one happens to be a loony right conservative. (The McVeigh wing of the GOP.)

354 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:12:18am

#349 - LMAO. Now I remember why we feed trolls... when they get hysterical... they're hysterical!

Eagerly awaiting Round Three. I am willing to be it will contain

1. A cheap and tasteless shot regarding Reagan and Alzheimer's

2. An assertion the Bill Clinton was personally willing to lead a team of selected Navy SEALS to personally capture bin Laden and destroy all terrorists, but was stopped by Ken Starr and the VRWC who sent in an intern with Mind Control Powers to distract him from his task, despite his heroic effort of will to resist her.

3. A further insistence that the was all about o-o-o-o-i-i-i-i-l! Even though all oilfields and facilities are being turned over to Iraqi control. The new Iraqi government are just puppets. Look closely... Alawi is actually Kermit the Frog... and the insurgents are.,.. in fact... Smurfs, trying to smurf all the infidels and prevent the infidels from smurfing sacred Islamic smurfs.

This is far more entertaining than anything Michael "the Hutt" Moore has ever produced.

355 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:15:45am

#353 --- ROTFLMAO. kj, you are truly the troll that keeps on giving.

I bet your blood pressure about now pretty much equals the "inflate to 38 PSI" in your cranium.

356 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:16:05am

#354 V the K:

You're slipping in your power of prediction... even you failed to forsee "Halliburton was hired to destroy Iraq"! (Oh, also, that Bush invaded Iraq to protect his oil contracts with the Chalabi regime... okay, I didn't see that one coming, either).

357 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:21:24am
The same day that Gore accused a bunch of GOP flacks who email rebuttals to journalists "brown shirts" it was reported that an activist group working in alliance with John Kerry was dispatching convicted felons -- i.e. real thugs and brutes -- to go door to door in neighborhoods to foment support for their candidate.

Hey, Frank IBC, since the guy who has two initials and can't even spell those right brings it up... which concentration camp have you been assigned to by Ashcroft's legion. Currently, I'm assigned to Gulag 13 in Pennsylvania, but I'm on the waiting list for Gulag 9 in Indiana... where the food is better and the guards much, much hunkier.

And this damn pink triangle doesn't go with a thing I own. What was Ashcroft thinking?

358 EW1(SG)  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:24:30am

#OR:

You're slipping in your power of prediction...

But DAMN he close!

359 EW1(SG)  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:28:46am

#358: You know that feeling you get when you write a short enough comment that you think you can get away without preview and just miss hitting the escape key in time stop the post when you realize you've made a blunder? Man, I hate that feeling.

But DAMN he was close!

360 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:30:05am
It's fun to pretend that up until 2001, CHENEY'S COMPANY wasn't lobbying to lift sanctions against AND DOING BUSINESS WITH Saddam.

Let's sum this argument up:

1.) Up until 2001 US oil companies (including the company with which VP Cheney used to be associated) were advocating that the US allow normal business ties with Saddam; that is, that we act like Europeans. (This much is true.)

2.) Therefore, in order to do the bidding of his oil company masters...

3.) Bush maintained the sanctions, isolated Saddam, and ultimately invaded and overthrew him.

Got that?

361 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:31:28am

#359 EW1(SG):

Actually, I thought you were deliberately doing a sort of "earthy vernacular" bit in #358...

362 Knight who says Ni  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:32:59am

A fun fact I like to point out about Haliburton - first, you have to understand what LOGCAP is; it's the Logistic Civil Augmentation Program (or something close to that) which the military started - it allows private companies to bid for a contract which essentially places them on-call in case the military needs them immediately. The reason for this should seem clear ...

Now, the good part. Halliburton won the LOGCAP contract in 1991 (or maybe 1992) and then lost it later in 1997. Not long after, Clinton began his non-UN sponsored, unilateral war in the Balkans and who did he award a no-bid contract to do to work there? Halliburton ... despite that the lost the LOGCAP bid, they were given contracts to do work there.

Halliburton won the contract again in 2000 (or 2001). They're given contracts to help rebuild Iraq because ... well, the won the damn bid.

So ... who gave whom no-bid contracts - and why weren't we hearing about the evils of Halliburton in the 90's?

Ni?

363 leo (dissident view from Berlin)  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:33:03am

The Digital Brown Shirts

They're anti-Bush, what a surprise.

364 Studsup  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:37:03am

Hey kj, you intellectually dishonest twit. Read your precious NYT today. Even they are being forced to dribble out the truth of the links between Saddam and Al Quaeda. Of course, they will dribble them out in a manner that allows their big fraud that "Bush Lied" to remain in the mind of the public.

365 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:39:34am
why weren't we hearing about the evils of Halliburton in the 90's?

Similar to the reason that the President whose Justice Department busted Enron (apparently taking a break from their crackdown on pr0n and homo-beatin's) gets the blame for Enron's fraudulent activities... which were very much ignored by the previous president's Justice Department (who were too busy inventing new forms of executive privilege and keeping the US safe from 9-year-old hispanic children to be bothered with anything as petty as corporate fraud).

Ugh, now the hypnotroll has me doin' it.

366 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:41:37am

Why are we feeding the troll?

v the k: because it's hilarious
OR: because watching v the k operate on a troll is hilarious
EW1(SG): because watching OR feed material for v the k to operate on a troll is hilarious

Now, why am I about to feed the troll? Because I wanna join in on the clue by c4 express :)

It's fun to pretend that Bush, Haliburton, et al. had legitimate MILITARY goals in Iraq and weren't just trying to protect their oil contracts with CHALABI's regime.

Last time we checked, Chalabi isn't PM, and he may never get that job. There were always legitimate military goals in Iraq - any gunfire/missile shot towards a US jet flying in the no-fly zone was reason enough.

It's fun to pretend that the GOP is a flawless organization that works for the common good of humanity, and not a corrupt cesspool of bureaucratic avarice, whose membership is dominated by states run by authoritarian despots.


Similarly, it's fun to think that the Democrats are interested in peace, love, and tranquility while millions are butchered, enslaved, and tortured by Communist/socialist regimes around the world.

It's fun to pretend that Clinton is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, and Genghis Khan combined and that free speech is being violently repressed by "the media elite," even as a hatred-spewing radio show host gets massive publicity for a drug bust/doctor shopping/obstruction of justice AND FREE HELP FROM THE ACLU.


Slow down there. No one ever said that Clinton was worse than Genghis Khan. Actually, the only groups making references to Hitler are the Democrats, like Al Gore, who called the GOP brown shirts. Where is the media being repressed anyways? Oh, and do you have any proof, or are we just talking out of your collective arse?

It's fun to pretend that the best response to terrorism is to hire Haliburton to destroy, then rebuild Iraq.

Must be fun to live in your world where terrorists dont exist, terrorists dont want to blow up infrastructure necessary to get a newly liberated country off its feet and able to participate in democracy for the first time ever, and that if you bury your head in the sand, the terrorists will go away.

It's fun to pretend that anyone who opposes the war and opposes Bush is a mindless Kerry-supporter rather than someone whose looked at both sides and concluded... otherwise.

Actually, anyone who bothers to read Kerry's positions - if you can actually find a position he stand on for more than 30 seconds - you'd see that he doesn't actually have a position on how to fight terrorism. He only talks about how he'd clean up after terrorists strike.

It's fun to pretend that homosexuals aren't people, and shouldn't have the same rights as the rest of us.

Thanks to the Mass. Sup. Ct. pushing that issue, not to Bush or the GOP. Besides, Clinton adopted the Marriage Defense Act. In a time of war, this qualifies as the crucial issue of the day? Priorities folks, and the Dems' ain't got 'em.

It's fun to pretend that a Cheney's past voting record (appease the enemy, slash the military, gut intelligence) is irrelevant because he'll do the right thing once elected.

You must mean Kerry - and there's more than enough record to hang him on it.

It's fun to pretend that Gore would have responded much differently to 9-11 than his REAGAN did to previous terror attacks throughout his administration

Reagan was wrong to run out of Beirut, but he did the right thing in Libya.

367 a soldier's dad  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:42:25am

My, my, kj...

Such prejudice, such stereotyping, such anger.

"Yup, all us down heah conservatives are white, minority hating, homosexual hating, cousin loving inbreds with no schooling to help us admire your obviously superior knowledge and morality. Yuk, yuk..."

You know, if you would quit altering your mind with foreign substances, you would gradually get a better grasp on reality.

By the way, my son was part of the forces that destroyed SADDAM'S REGIME, and he doesn't work for Haliburton. Actually, I think some of his pay comes right out of your own pocket. Hee, hee....

368 Cam  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:48:44am

#317 V the K:

Well said!

369 PostalWorker  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 8:58:52am

kj,

If my son gets deployed to a war zone and some dickwad like you tries to tell me the shit you are saying, they will incur medical expenses.

You are worse than an idiot, you are a lily livered prick.

370 rebmiami  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 9:08:39am

Everyone who is feeding kj, please go back and carefully read his post #308. I don't normally go for blanket criticism of fellow lizards, but, respectfully, you are all missing the point. You are trying to debate a creature who has just, in writing, accused the President of the United States of having committed 9-11.

See my #336 for the relevant quote, and I am not dowding it!

This guy has the intellectual caliber of a Holocaust denier or a 1930's New York Times Pulitzer Prize winning journalist apologizing for Stalin.

Please stop feeding it.

371 a soldier's dad  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 9:15:41am

oh, alriiiight....

/looking down, kicking at the ground and trying to look disappointed...

372 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 9:44:36am

#370 rebmiami --- Respectfully, I don't think there is any danger that anyone is going to take kj seriously. Meantime, I find his deranged Michael Moore act quite entertaining. It only gets sad when you contemplate how many others there are who are just as stupid, and just as angry.

373 rebmiami  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 9:49:04am

370 a soldier's dad,

lol

374 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 9:53:34am

#372 v the k:

Especially when the facts get in the way of their narrative. The Times is now reporting that Iraq approached al Qaeda in going after the Saudis - you know.... engaging in international terrorism.

AQ was concerned that it would turn AQ into an Iraqi outfit rather than an independent terrorist organization.
---

My, it sounds like AQ was worried about a hostile takeover, and SPECTRE was too busy to step in and make Saddam take a dip in the pool with the sharks with frikkin' lasers.

375 azul93gt  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 9:58:38am

Apparently jk has an axe to grind with the GOP over the gay or some other domestic social issue(s), and jk sees the WoT as just a convenient vehicle to criticize Bush. Kinda like when Gore criticised G.H.W. Bush for raising taxes and not removing Saddam in 92' when now Gore is criticizing G.W. Bush for cutting taxes and removing Saddam in 04'. The L^3 has no shame.

376 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 10:03:08am

#367 a soldier's dad:

Actually, I think some of his pay comes right out of your own pocket. Hee, hee....

Where on earth did you get the idea that "kj" actually works and pays taxes?! His allowance from daddy is entirely tax-free, I'm betting.

#366 lawhawk:

I had actually missed the line about:

the GOP is a flawless organization that works for the common good of humanity, and not a corrupt cesspool of bureaucratic avarice, whose membership is dominated by states run by authoritarian despots.

"States run by authoritarian despots"??? What the hell is he/she talking about, Myanmar?

#370 rebmiami:

Put it this way--we're at the end of a long, day-old thread, and just havin' some harmless fun with a particularly lightweight troll. Think of it as working out on the speed bag.

377 EW1(SG)  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 10:10:16am

#366 lawhawk:

EW1(SG): because watching OR feed material for v the k to operate on a troll is hilarious

ROFLOL! Are my motivations that obvious?

378 a soldier's dad  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 10:19:00am
make Saddam take a dip in the pool

This is completely OT, but this statment made me think of it. One of my favorite photos that my son sent back from Iraq was taken when several in his unit of the 101st got to swim in one of Saddam's palace pools. They are trying to do a synchronized fall into the pool, kind of like you see in old movies, where they are all in a line, dropping sideways into the pool one after the other.

About the time our infidels were enjoying his pool, I imagine Saddam would have been snacking on crackers in his little rathole hideout.

379 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 10:32:43am

Hey, Frank IBC, since the guy who has two initials and can't even spell those right

Hmmmmm....surely you can't be serious...

MM???

which concentration camp have you been assigned to by Ashcroft's legion. Currently, I'm assigned to Gulag 13 in Pennsylvania, but I'm on the waiting list for Gulag 9 in Indiana... where the food is better and the guards much, much hunkier.

Hmmmm...I sense a Fox "Reality TV" show coming up...

But I'll stick with Gulag 13 - Col. Klink is just such a lovable old pooftah, and then there's the homoerotic subtext of the Schultz/LeBeau relationship...

BTW, has he said, "you get your news from Fox" yet?

380 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 10:33:42am

kj -

We don't take you any more seriously than your parents do.

381 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 10:42:21am

#378 a soldier's dad:


They are trying to do a synchronized fall into the pool, kind of like you see in old movies, where they are all in a line, dropping sideways into the pool one after the other.
About the time our infidels were enjoying his pool, I imagine Saddam would have been snacking on crackers in his little rathole hideout.

Blissfully unaware that his regime had in fact been overthrown by a gang of Esther Williams impersonators... oh, the humiliation...


[okay, you don't need to tell the 101st that I called them that, do you? it can be just our little secret]

382 a soldier's dad  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 10:57:02am

#381 OC

LOL. OK, I won't tell...

and if you hear the chop, chop of hellicopters, don't worry, it's just the traffic reporter on his way to report on another accident...

383 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 11:02:34am

This has been a test of the Michael Moore Ass Cannon Alert System.

Had this been an actual Michael Moore Ass Cannon Incident, you would have been instructed where to tune in your area for news and official information.

Repeat - this is has been a test.

384 Rufus Lee King  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 11:24:01am

Anyone have any links to any media accounts of Gore's incontinence?

Or has he been reduced to the crazy aunt in the attic by our paternalistic sparers of Leftist discouragement?

385 leo (dissident view from Berlin)  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 11:45:27am

"The line [between criticism and anti-Semitism] is crossed when Israel or its leaders are demonized or vilified, for example, by the use of Nazi symbols and racist caricatures."

Mr. Gore, is Colin Powell one of these brownshirts, too?

386 rebmiami  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 11:51:07am

Sorry if my post 370 was preachy. I don't care really if people wanted to feed the troll, and I actually enjoyed reading the various parodies of it. I just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of what it said in its first post. We are so inured to the standard LLL memes, but they don't usually try to assert, on here anyway, that Bush caused 9-11. Truly a new low.

Parting thought, then on to newer threads:
Is algore's comment about digital brownshirts evidence that the once high an mighty intellectual left has essentially degenerated into one big Godwin's law violation? A pale shadow of an old UseNet flamewar?

387 V the K  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 12:01:36pm

#386 - I don't think the leftist flamers are net-savvy enough to pick up on Godwin's law. Besides which, they have created this powerful rationalization machine that basically allows them to say anything they want, no matter how outrageous, and anyone who criticizes or fact checks them is automatically a racist nazi homophobic whatever.

There being no check to leftist insanity, of course they will only become more insane. Which makes me more and more convinced the DNC convention in Boston is going to make the Wellstone Memorial look like a Japanese Tea Ceremony.

388 Frank IBC  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 12:28:02pm

Boston...Tea...

Hmmmm....

389 Rufus Lee King  Fri, Jun 25, 2004 12:56:38pm

Al Gore:

The greatest danger to the United States, said the man who narrowly lost the 2000 presidential election, is not terrorism but the possibility that Americans "will acquiesce in the slow and steady accumulation of too much power in the hands of one person."

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Great quote to keep on hand for after the next 9/11 attempts or worse, WMD terrorism, God forbid, succeeds.

We can look at the rubble and wasted humanity and breathe a sigh of relief that we didn't suffer Al's "possibility that Americans will acquiesce in the slow and steady accumulation of too much power in the hands of one person".

Translation of Gore's lathered spiel: I don't trust the Founders' checks and balances to work to let us defend ourselves since my party has already been ousted from 3 out of 3 branches of government.

As a former Clinton campaign volunteer and former lifelong Democrat, it's no mystery to me why the party of Gore and Kennedy and Boxer and Pelosi has been thrown out of governmental power after sinking to such self ruin.


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