A gathering of Moonbats, how many species can you spot?

"calling for an end to U.S. occupation in Iraq and voicing skepticism about Wednesday’s scheduled transfer of power to the Iraqis."

Huh? WTF! How can you have one without the other? How is the US supposed to "End the Occupation" without transferring power?

How screwed up do you and your ideology have to be to not even understand that 2 + 2 doesn't equal 5?

test Post.

How are ya gonna get 'em to go to a protest when there are jobs to be had and money to be made?

IIRC, authorities were pleasantly suprised at the relative lack of L3 idiocy at the recentl G8 summit. Maybe some of these losers have finally moved out of daddy's basement and are actually having to support themselves in the real world.

#4 Brainstien

"Maybe some of these losers have finally moved out of daddy's basement and are actually having to support themselves in the real world. "

It's certainly the best cure for this awful disease.

“My feeling is right now a lot of people are demoralized because trying to bring the troops home is like trying to move a mountain,” said Jennifer Horan, a spokeswoman for United for Justice With Peace, a coalition that organized the protest.

Have no doubt the "DEMORALized", will be fully energized come the Republican Convention.

The unfortunate thing is that these "DEMORALlized", will quite probably be treading on some sacred ground in NY, say like where the World Trade Towers, use to be.

The few
The embittered
The useless

The United States War Protestors
They could use any good man (or women, or monkey)

It makes me feel better to see that Boston, the home of teddy boy and Hanoi john, may be returning to its' senses, especially with chumpsky and his followers covering the other side of the Charles River, in Cambridge, and the dhummicrat convention politburo starting soon...

Do you think anyone there has a brain?

What's with the Cat Hat? The Cheese Mountain?

How on god's green earth can anyone take them seriously?

Looks life a bunuch of LLL left over yucknics from the 60's. Phooney. ;-P

Darn, darn, darn, and I previewed. Bunch, it should read bunch. Awww!

I blame Ashcroft. Clearly a crushing of dissent.

/LLL

OT:

Just saw Ebert (who should know better) and Roper-rat shilling AGAIN for Moore's propaganda piece. They've already reviewed it a couple of weeks ago, but took up MORE air time to urge everyone to go see this "brilliant" film.

And Roper-rat said pissily that he'd gotten a lot of mail from conservatives who said that they shouldn't call it a documentary.

"Well, guess WHAT, people--all documentaries have a point of view."

MUTE!

I am almost tempted to take the T to Copley square and watch these lunatics. If only the hard core protesters are left protesting, then it could be amusing because the hard core is certifiably insane. I wonder if they are embracing any new conspiracy theories.

Note, at the left of the picture, what is apparently a large yellow chicken costume/puppet with a sign reading "eggs-hausted of eggs-[something] war."

We've all heard of the Halliburton connection, but who knew that Frank Perdue had his nefarious ZOG tentacles in the Iraq project, too?!?

NO BLOOD FOR BUFFALO WINGS!

SAY NO TO BUSH'S INCREDIBLE, EDIBLE LIES!

MAKE LOVE NOT OMELETS!!

It's interesting to check out the age of these mental defectives. They're all leftovers from the '60s. And still high.

How long before these political clowns start crowing their success in 'forcing' the Chimp to abandon his imperialistic plans for Carlye Group domination of Iraq?

Protocol chief's adventure nears end

BAGHDAD — The lawyers are fiddling with the language formalizing the transfer of power to Iraqis on Wednesday,

My bet is before Thursday.

" ... in the late Devouring period, fish became obnoxious"

#13 Lady

Yes, and "Triumph of the Will" certainly had a POV. But would Roper describe Leni Riefenstahl's piece of propaganda merely a "documentary"?

And what makes TotW so brilliant a piece (for what it is) is the undisputed cinematic art plus Riefenstahl never "lies" in it.

MM's pieces are little more than political porn with the POV of a puerile sloth who presents his fevered conspiracy imaginations as "fact."

Hmmm.

I've been on two huge protest marches in Washington. I'll tell you all a secret--they're fun.

It's really what the Aussies call a "Big Day Out." Picnic in public, annoy those who don't agree with you, parade your opinions down the street loud and proud, and even dress up like Mardi Gras if you like.

Try it sometime! Think how much fun it would be to put a public kink in the Lefties' tail! Protest Warrior will be saddling up again, I'm sure.

Estimate of Heinz Fortune Doubled

And this is from the LA Times! Poor Boston...it hurts to see my hometown become so messed up.

Teresa Heinz Kerry, through a network of investments in blue-chip corporations, venture capital funds and municipal bonds, controls a family fortune worth an estimated $1 billion, an examination of public records shows.

The $1-billion figure is double the estimates of her wealth that are widely cited in news stories about her husband, Massachusetts Sen. John F. Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president.

The couple would rank as the wealthiest to occupy the White House, far surpassing such storied presidential fortunes as the Kennedys'. Their assets are so vast and far-reaching that they mirror the U.S. economy, and will likely raise questions about conflicts of interest.

"She represents a new ballgame in terms of her wealth and in terms of the wealth she controls," said Kevin Phillips, a political commentator and author of the history "Wealth and Democracy."

Heinz Kerry's investments, worth an estimated $500 million in 1995, have grown over the last nine years to $1 billion or more, even accounting for large living expenses and charitable contributions, according to an analysis of Securities and Exchange Commission filings, Senate financial disclosure reports, probate documents and other public records.

Since key details of Heinz Kerry's investments are not in the public record, a precise valuation is not possible. The Times analysis produced estimates as low as $900 million and as high as $3.2 billion.

Three senior executives at investment firms that handle accounts for wealthy clients reviewed The Times' study and said the $1-billion valuation was a fair and conservative estimate.

See rest of article...

As someone who, in a former life, marched against going to war before it happened, I'm pretty sure that a major part of the reason that these marches have gone from the hundreds of thousands to just hundreds is that most of the former protesters are aware that the war ended in April 2003, and the occupation ends Wednesday. These guys are stuck a year and a half in the past.

#19 Darleen

You hit upon the reason I dislike people saying that Michael Moore is similar to Leni Riefenstahl. If you ignore the creepy, disgusting politics, Riefenstahl's films are technical masterpieces. To put it another way, if Riefenstahl had made a non-political film in the style of "Triumph of the Will" or "Olympiad," I would probably like the non-political film without reservation. I could not say the same of Michael Moore. A non-political Michael Moore film would be just annoying. The German film of the period that I would compare to Michael Moore's work is not "Triumph of the Will" or "Olympiad," but rather "Der ewige Jude," which is propaganda without any artistic merit.

Protesters also waved rainbow-colored flags with 'Peace' written on them.

For its pro-Saddam campaign last year, the Vatican has turned the gay pride flag upside down and written "PACE" over it. The Pope knows how to help the Left sell out gay rights to Islam.

The old gray-bearded bastard behind the banner (far right) looks exactly like the moonbat who was photographed carrying a "solidarity with the Fallujah insurgents" sign at a demo in Sf a few weeks ago.

#23 Average Joe

Exactly. This is why when movie reviewers are lauding MM's POS what they are doing is lauding his politics not his film making.

Michael Medved was quite clear on this last week. He said he actually thought (outside of content) "Bowling for Columbine" a rather good film (he gave it 2 1/2 stars). He says F911 is an incoherent mess as a film, regardless of politics.

IMHO, F911 is a political touchstone... the extent of praise gives you a good idea how much koolaid the praiser has drunk.

Poor anti-war protesters, they only have until Wednesday to protest the occupation and after that the only thing left is to protest the freedom the Iraqis are starting to enjoy.
What a rock and a hard place! Regards

Also from Boston, an interesting thing I noticed yesterday:

ANSWER has flyers up advertising some demonstration during the DNC convention. What struck me was how the facade of moderation has been dropped, and the text now looks just like boilerplate Stalinist crackpot literature.

Of course, their backers' support of Kim Jong-Il and other tyrants has never been a secret but now the flyer explicitly endorses "Hands Off: Venezuela Cuba Korea".

Iraqi Commies beg to differ...

Here they come, the carnival of clowns, in their costumes designed to demonstrate their creative tendencies. these people love the attention and like children are not willing to consider the consequences of their acts...in this case appeasement.

The people are repulsive, but it is clear this carnival represents the masqurade party America is becoming, a muddled mess of degenerate maddness.

The dawning of the Age of Aquarius caused this?

Speaking of the insane

The little angels of A.N.S.W.E.R. will be demonstrating at both national conventions.

Probably posted already, but I just wanted say I hope they get all media coverage they want.

No one's mentioned one other possible rason for the low turnout: People have changed their minds and where they once opposed the war, they now - having seen it for over year - have moved from opposition to either ambivalence or support.

Push-polling questions can hide this, but there's even a silver lining to that: the LLL stay in their cocoon and continue to fight blind, reducing their effectiveness all the more every day.

#31 ms. andi

Omigod ... the rant on that link is priceless. There are actually human beings that believe that stuff? Ones that can actually tie their own shoes and can hit the toilet when they go???

ROFLMAO...

Gotta love this one:

George Bush is proposing a constitutional amendment to ban marriage rights for all. Instead of a constitutional amendment, John Kerry proposes that each state enact a similar ban.

Wow... who knew GW and even Kerry were out to ban marriage...

These "people" need keepers.

@25 Shiplord Kirel

Spot on. I noticed that feller too. He must make a profession of going nationwide to these protests. Now, who pays for 'em? :)

How anyone can take these people seriously is well beyond me...

BTW, have they even asked the troops if they want to come home?! NO ONE should speak for a soldier except himself.

#33 Darleen

LOL! The Protest Warriors refer to them as the "cancer from ANSWER." I really, really hope they show up in the 1000s (though I doubt it) and receive all the coverage they so desperately want. It can only help Bush.

I find this picture heartbreaking. I never suspected Santa Claus was an idiotarian and *sob* there he is carrying a dumbass sign.

The little children of America will find notes next to their stockings next December:

"Johnny, shame on you for asking for a GI-Joe! What kind of fascist warmonger are your parents raising you to be? Instead, I am leaving you the collected works of Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, and Karl Marx. Read them, study them, and become enlightened."

Confession: I marched on DC in a get the US out of El Salvador rally ('83?). I though most of them were kooks then, even when I was a (harmless) kook. Plus, I was admonished by the leader on the bus for smoking pot- some commies didn't like smoke...I also marched in many demos locally, and in DC for lefty causes, and thought many/most of the people were nuts (especially an anti-police brutality rally in Pittsburgh that had masked gang-members as speakers, then, a friend and I were threatened, because we're white AND we even had signs etc to show support...)

24 leo

Those rainbow striped 'PACE' flags make me grind my teeth and have convulsions when I'm in Italy. When I see that somebody has one hanging off their balcony in, say, Rome or Florence, makes me wanna go find a rock and throw it through their glass balcony doors.

25,34,37

That old gray-bearded bastard is none othe than Captain Mike. He pays his own way, believe me.

Thats all I'm saying for know.

Read the two signs above the cat's head together: "Be brave. Refuse to kill us." Hmmm...

forgot to preview

Thats all I'm saying for now.

That old gray-bearded bastard is none othe than Captain Mike

Captain of what? The Good Ship Agitprop?

My office has done some work for him and he sends out little cards with his photo on it. Nothing about his politics however. Of course here in CT anybody who looks like that ...

What is it with Leftist and oversized puppets? The guy next to Santa appears to be a big black pussycat---is there some obscure symbolism involved? Meanwhile, to the left of Santa is a giant chicken (or mass of scrambled eggs) playing a bongo drum; Again there's some obscure, but profound, symbolism involved. Maybe a Chomskyite could eggs-plain it all.

Are there anymore photos?

Says something about the minuscule turnout for the CT rally that I didn't even know one was going on, and I was in downtown New Haven all afternoon (it's a small downtown, BTW, because the city was laid out in 1640-- which means you can't miss a rally of significant size or noise level). Of course, the undergrads went home for the summer about a month ago.

Is the Arts and Idea's Festival still going on?

Hey, the demo is of larger size than the recent demonstrations of "moderate Muslims" -- in the few dozens in Phoenix and couple dozen in Jersey.

[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]
[Link: www.wnbc.com...]

At least the moonbats have amusing art projects. Sometimes.

The Boston protests were meant to coincide with those of their brethren in Ireland, but even the Irish protest numbers were down to 20,000 or so from last year's 100.000 in Dublin alone.

But Americans would be wise to ignore the convenient revisionism of Irish claims that their discontent is about Iraq, or not against their American tourist market but against Bush. Let's not forget what the Irish thought of the US after 9/11 and during the Afghanistan War:

"Irelands case Against America"

[Link: www.geocities.com...]

It would all have seemed so much more balanced if the "nuetral" Irish were as concerned about offering their airports to immoral war efforts when they let the Soviets use Shannon during the Cuban missile crisis. But you know how those Irish always route for the underdog...

#48 MohawkDaddy

The A&I Festival ended yesterday. Wasn't much going on there either. The downtown was almost empty.

51 Connecticut Yankee

Wasn't there a Rev War reenactment at Lighthouse today too, or is that next week. We should get dressed in period clothes and go down there and scream "No blood for whale oil!" at the Minutemen.

Washington LIED!!!

OT Speaking of protestors, they are ramping up the hate demonstrations in Turkey:

A demonstrator chants Islamic slogans

Turkish demonstrators set fire to a U.S. flag

Turkish demonstrators burn Israeli and NATO flags

Demonstrators, members of the Turkey's Communist Party, chant slogans

Members of the left-wing Labour Party set fire an effigy of U.S. President

Turkish left-wing demonstrators hurl rocks at police

#52 MohawkDaddy

I had to miss yesterday's reenactment of the Battle of New Haven in 1779. On the other hand, if you mean Powderhouse Day (which commemorates the seizure of the keys to the local store of ordnance) that's celebrated in late April or early May.

Description: After the Battle of Lexington, the first proclamation against the British was signed in New Haven, and local citizens decided to fight. The next day, a group of colonists forced their way into the powder house, rounding up supplies to march to Cambridge. Each year in late April or early May, New Haven celebrates "the demanding of the keys" with a re-enactment, parade, and a battalion review on the New Haven Green. The event rings with what is said to be the rallying cry from 1775: "None but Almighty God shall prevent my marching!"

The web site of the Governor's Foot Guard, Second Company, has a link to yesterday's reenactment of the Battle of New Haven (1779): [Link: www.footguard.org...]

LGFers who are interested in military history in general or Revolutionary War history in particular: the Governor's Foot Guard is the one of the oldest units in continuous existence in the US military (formed in 1775) and is well known for its fife and drum marching band. Here is the link to the Second Company's home page:

[Link: www.footguard.org...]

Quark2 will be interested to know that the Second Company also has a Horse Guard, founded in 1808:
[Link: www.thehorseguard.com...]

It would be interesting to see what would happen if you or others were to come to a reenactment in period dress and act like colonial moonbats. My guess is that the locals, who support the troops for the most part, would come on like Protest Warriors.

The anti-war demos are shrinking even here in SF. But other venues are being exploited - and shamefully so. Please write to the following and express your outrage at anti-Israel activist Kate Rapheal being selected as Community Grand Marshall for the San Francisco Gay Pride Parade.

(letters to the editor SF Bay Times, a gay newspaper)

(letters to the editor, Spectrum, a gay newspaper)

(coordinator of the SF Pride Parade)

This is from the SF Pride Website
"Kate Raphael is a cofounder of Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism (QUIT!) and Direct Action to Stop the War, which shut down San Francisco for five days at the beginning of the Second Iraq War. As a member of LAGAI - Queer Insurrection, the oldest radical queer liberation group in the Bay Area, she helped design the 1999 Crash The Parade campaign... She is now continuing her fight against (Apartheid) Walls in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, where she has spent the last year as a member of International Women's Peace Service".

It's quite appalling and disgraceful. Israel is the only country in the ME with open gay Knesset members, a Gay Pride parade, and is the sole place where homosexual men and lesbians can live openly without fear of arrest, torture, harassment, or even murder. Yet this is how Israel is paid back for its "enlightenment" by the biggest Gay Pride event in the world! The moral clarity here is all consuming.

Raphael and her friends in ISM (International Solidarity Movement) vehemently oppose Israel's existence and support violence against Israeli citizens. As a result of the terror campaign executed by those that Raphael supports, Israel has had to close its borders to gay refugees from the Arab world.

Needless to say (if you know the demented breed) kefiyah wearing, Arabic learning Kate Raphael was born a Jew.

It would all have seemed so much more balanced if the neutral Irish were as concerned about offering their airports to immoral war efforts when they let the Soviets use Shannon during the Cuban missile crisis.In "The Fringes of Power" John Colville, Churchill's private secretary wrote on 4 January 1941, when England stood alone against Nazi Germany, that a great many English people were dismayed that Ireland refused help to English ships, preferring to remain "neutral." There are some questions as to how neutral Ireland remained in her relations to Nazi Germany. Dorothy Sayers, angered by Ireland's craven duplicity, wrote and sent to Churchill the following poem. The Burden of Ireland. O never trouble Ireland: her lamps are shining bright, While the wicked cities of England are plunged in fear and night, For Ireland may go lightly and draw her easy breath, With the hard heart of England set between her and death. Oh never trouble Ireland, for she may sleep sound, While the reek of blood and burning goes up from English ground. She lies down lightly with a smile upon her lips, Her bulwarks built of English bones and the wreck of the English ships...O never trouble Ireland, for Ireland is free--It is only the men of other lands that groan for liberty. It is only cruel England thinks such men worth a stir; But do not trouble Ireland--it does not trouble her. Say only of Catholic Ireland that she remained at home, When the pagan and the apostate set heel on the neck of Rome, When the cross lay under the flyfot, bowed down to the axe and rod, And the dirty English Protestants went out to die for God. And say of gallant Ireland, she does not stand alone; She sits in the shield of England's arm and bites her to the bone. She has shortened the sword of England without shewing fight--God rest you merry, Irish men, let nothing you affright. And say of conquere Ireland that she has won her war; She has taken the bounty of England to settle the English score, She has spilt the blood of England without drawing blade--And England may go lightly now, for all her debts are paid. But do not trouble England with a tale of Irish wrongs, Or wring the heart of England with the old heroic songs, Or bend the Irish blarney to woo the English ear--For the laughter of England will not be good to hear." Colville's footnote to this diary entry reads: Dorothy Sayers did not take account of the large numbers of Southern Irishmen who came to England to volunteer for service in the British armed forces despite their Government's craven neutrality.

Charles;

Why do the links cited above not read out as written?

Anyhow, the appropriate parties can be contacted by going to their web sites.

Frisco Patriot

Frisco Patriot: I fixed the links - email links need to have the mailto: prefix in order to work.

#57 denisov

The only Holocaust deniers I ever personally met were southern Irish "revolutionaries" in the bars of San Francisco. Damned if I understood it, except that, having sat out the only clear-cut battle between good and evil of the 20th century, they had to pretend it hadn't been any such thing to make their own parochial spat look anything except pathetic.

I can't believe that Churchill's "Victory Speech" exists nowhere on the internet! It's printed in the appendix to his memoirs but I don't have those with me. In that speech Churchill made no bones about grouping Ireland and its WWII policy of neutrality with the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese.

It's true that approximately 100,000 from the Republic volunteered in that war. That fact is often eclipsed by our memory of Irish Prime Minister De Valera formally expressing condolences at the German Legation in Dublin on the death of Hitler.

Fewer people know that on the day of the German surrender a rock-throwing mob marched on the US Embassy (only it wasn't then an "embassy", I forget the proper term.)

When asked by a friend if he was really involved in that demonstration, Charlie Haughey, the Irish Prime Minister during the 1980's exclaimed, "I was leading it!"

It makes me feel better to see that Boston, the home of teddy boy and Hanoi john, may be returning to its' senses, especially with chumpsky and his followers covering the other side of the Charles River, in Cambridge, and the dhummicrat convention politburo starting soon...

Let's not forget that the voters in Mass elected a Republican (and *gasp!* Mormon) governor last election cycle.

#57, #60

I was in Ireland a little over 2 months after the 9/11 attacks. Saw fliers for 'anti-war' rallies in Cork, although Kabul fell by the time they took place, so I have no idea how the turnout was. I spent a good deal of time clad in a trenchcoat with a small (but prominently displayed) American flag pin- 'my heart on my sleeve' if you will. Most of the people who brought up 9/11 were visitors from Italy or Spain who politely queried whether or not the terrorist attacks would've happened if Bush wasn't elected. I (rather politely in hindsight) reminded them the amount of practice and co-ordination that went into the attacks would predate the 2000 elections and was designed to kill as meany Americans as possible regardless of who was in the White House.

A couple of pints of Guiness (loved the St. James Gate tour) were purchased for me by an Irishman with the somewhat slurred toast of Where would the rest of the feckin' world be without America!?. Aside from some singers and girls in the club, the best looking women I saw there were American or Scandinavian (who were fluent enough in English that I mistook them for Americans at first).

On an unrealted note, some of my LLL coworkers have denounced Michael Moore and said they won't be making plans to see F 9/11 anytime soon. One of them cited the double standard of media hype and scaremongering which he supposedly condemed in Bowling for Columbine but also exploited to the fullest and reasoned that F 9/11 wouldn't be much different. I think they reached that conclusion with some help *ahem*.

Thanks, Charles! You're tops - always on the job. I hope LGFers belt out some irate letters. I've fired off a slew.

i wouldn't take too much comfort in this. i suspect the less nutty ones have moved over to muve-on type work.

I've said it before, I'll say it again - the only people who have the free time to make these signs (and, God forbid, puppets) and march in the street with them don't have real jobs. The people who keep America's economy running are not here. The blue-collar workers who don't get paid if they aren't at work aren't here. These protest marches are full of ideology-addled college students and burnouts from the 60's who are rationalizing their current unemployed status by claiming they "live off the grid, man." (And, as Charles said, these marches are also populated by the insane, as evidenced not only by their great gobs of free time, but also by their divorced-from-reality message.)

I've yet to figure out why I should be swayed by the message of a mob who obviously doesn't have to be as work as often as I do.

Feminist protesters to get in their licks on Bush:

And, Just for Fun, Bash Bush - Literally
If you've ever wanted to punch out a President, here's your chance. For a small donation, attendees can "Give George What-For in '04" by punching an inflatable likeness of President Bush. Don't miss this unique opportunity to take politics into your own hands. Other games and kids' stuff include politically-themed face painting and temporary tattoos, and you'll want to warm up your pitching arm for the "Asses of Evil" dunking booth featuring volunteers masked to resemble "W," Dick Cheney, & Co.

You bet. Get the kids involved in politics. How? Why by having them "punch" the president and dunk the "asses".

Don't miss it.

"Beauty Slays the Beast" Festival

Not surprisingly: "All proceeds go to Moveon.org."

Keep kidding yourselves kids.

LOS ANGELES, June 27 — Michael Moore's anti-Bush "Fahrenheit 9/11" became the highest-grossing documentary of all time on its first weekend in release, taking in $21.8 million as it packed theaters across the country this weekend.

The movie, mocking President Bush and criticizing his decision to go to war in Iraq, was No. 1 at the box office, beating out the popular comedies "White Chicks" and "DodgeBall," which were playing on almost triple the number of screens.

Theater owners in large cities and smaller towns reported sellout crowds over the weekend, with numerous theaters declaring house records.

We sold out in Fayetteville, home of Fort Bragg," in North Carolina, Mr. Moore said on Sunday. "We sold out in Army-base towns. We set house records in some of these places. We set single-day records in a number of theaters. We got standing ovations in Greensboro, N.C.

"The biggest news to me this morning is this is a red-state movie," he said, referring to the state whose residents voted for George W. Bush in the 2000 election. "Republican states are embracing the movie, and it's sold out in Republican strongholds all over the country."

The New York Times

Keep cats out of it.

Ummm

Mr. Stein, I don't think most here were questioning MM toy's ability to generate money. We just think he sucks, period.

Let me complete the sentence in the protester's sign above.

Be Brave, Refuse to Kill... Refuse to Fight. Refuse Material Life. Refuse self preservation. Refuse to rock the boat. Refuse Life. Put your hands down to your side and let them them kill you.

Master Charles,
Thanks for the photos of giant puppet heads! I have missed seeing them lately. Nothing says that this is a just social cause like giant puppet heads, and pink cardboard tanks and hairy guys in pink tutus.

OT,

In the series of Yahoo Top Stories photographs linked above, a set of pictures from a 14 year old poet's funeral are featured. Apparently, the boy was quite prolific, as he published 5 volumes and attracted the attention of Pres. Carter and Oprah Winfrey. Both attended the services.

However, please explain one thing: why on earth was his casket DRAPED IN THE UN FLAG???

#73

I did a search under the boy's name (Mattie Stepanek) and "United Nations" and while I didn't find anything definitive, it appears that he gave a speech at the UN last year. He was a goodwill ambassador for MDA, and a lot of the articles reference him as, among other things, a peacemaker. The choice of the flag seems a little odd, but this boy's whole life wasn't ordinary.

The sad part -- the really, really sad part -- is that if we let them, these tinfoil-hatted morons are going to claim, in a couple of years, that they "forced" the US to withdraw from Iraq. And the media will believe them. And the kook professors that write history books will take them seriously. And twenty years from now, the Left will be claiming another "Vietnam Victory" for themselves. If we let them.

CavalierX,

the revisionism that you describe is an inevitability unless we resolve to prevent it. This thread began with the poorly attended anti-war demonstrations in the northeast over the weekend. It's unfortunate that none of the major blogs covered the sister protests that took place in Ireland on the occasion of Bush's visit. Throughout the Irish press and all over the message boards you could hear the words chanted like a mantra: "we loved you after 9/11." The media here ate it up: Irish angry at Bush and his Iraq War.

Well, never mind the revisionism. Please have a Look at what an anti-revisionist determination can produce when the success of the revisions are as good as certain (even on FOXnews last weekend I had to hear about the supposed post-9/11 sympathy in Ireland as contrasting to today).

So what was the quality of Irish "post-9/11 sympathy"? Judge for yourself. Here's my exhaustive compilation of reports, editorials, and op-eds from the period's major Irish dailies on the subject. (Public opinion can be gauged in the "Letters to the Editors" section.)

"Irelands case Against America"

[Link: www.geocities.com...]

"Ireland's Case Against America"