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Kidnapped Marine Was AWOL

Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 2:14:27 pm PDT

Rumors about Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun’s “kidnapping” in Iraq have been circulating for a few days; here’s the first confirmation that Hassoun had indeed gone AWOL: Abducted Marine Had Reportedly Deserted. (Hat tip: Spoons.)

I put the word “kidnapping” in quotes above because I agree with Spoons that something about this story smells strongly of seafood.

BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 29 — The American marine who is being threatened by his kidnappers with beheading had deserted the military because he was emotionally traumatized, and was abducted by his captors while trying to make his way home to his native Lebanon, a Marine officer said Tuesday.

The officer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said he believed that Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun was betrayed by Iraqis he befriended on his base and ended up in the hands of Islamic extremists.

The officer said Corporal Hassoun, a 24-year-old Marine linguist who was born in Lebanon, was shaken up after he saw one of his sergeants blown apart by a mortar shell.

“It was very disturbing to him,” the officer said. “He wanted to go home and quit the game, but since he was relatively early in his deployment, that was not going to happen anytime soon. So he talked to some folks on base he befriended, because they were all fellow Muslims, and they helped sneak him off. Once off, instead of helping him get home, they turned him over to the bad guys.”

“It’s all we know right now,” the officer added.

Corporal Hassoun, a fluent Arabic-speaker who had been living with his family in West Jordan, Utah, outside Salt Lake City, joined the Marine Corps to work as a translator.

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1 Awooga  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:17:34pm

"arab marine" is fishy in it of itself

2 V the K  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:20:19pm

Um, excuse me...

“It was very disturbing to him,” the officer said. “He wanted to go home and quit the game, but since he was relatively early in his deployment, that was not going to happen anytime soon. So he talked to some folks on base he befriended, because they were all fellow Muslims, and they helped sneak him off. Once off, instead of helping him get home, they turned him over to the bad guys.”

Anyone else troubled that the bases are infiltrated by insurgents?

3 Jheka  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:20:35pm

I don't know if this is true or not. I believe it is. I hope it is not. Most of all, I hope that the video is not the price of his fare to Lebanon. That would make him a traitor rather than merely a deserter. Nevertheless, he's an American Marine and whatever he did or didn't do, it's up to us to deal with him. Let's find him (and whoever is with him).

4 V the K  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:21:52pm

Also, believing that some Muslims on base were somehow going to help him desert and get back to the USA... hate to say it about anyone in his situation, but he does not sound like the brightest bulb in the hallway.

5 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:22:44pm
6 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:23:21pm

What a f*cking idiot. Instead of trying to get help after being "emotionally traumatized," he instead tries to desert. Then he gets turned over to the jihadis after getting sweet-talked by some locals. Personally, I'm not feelin' alot of sympathy at this point. This asshole better make his peace with whatever god he believes in, because his ass is as good as dead.

8 Mr. Pulpo  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:25:05pm

OT

Those in the San Francisco area Pete Wilson on KGO 81AM is talking about Fat Mickey’s Movie.
You can also listen to it on the internet.

9 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:26:37pm

I so want to believe this guy isn't a traitorous, deserting scumbag. I really do. But this story smells so fishy, my cat is rubbing against the monitor meowing for all she's worth.

Seriously, though, we need translators, and Arab linguists are few and far between. It takes over a year to train one from scratch, if you can even find people who are bright enough and committed enough. Is it too much to hope they're loyal Americans, too?

10 Plato  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:28:05pm

OT:

It seems like the Saudi's just killed a clericif you can trust anything they say. Just think of the revenge if we had done it.

11 growler  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:29:12pm

contradicted, sort of, here:

Two days after Islamic militants released a video of Marine Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun in captivity with a curved sword held over his neck, the Marine Corps Tuesday officially changed its view of Hassoun and declared him to be a captive, not a deserter.

[...]

After complaints from the family and Utah officials, the Marine Corps Tuesday changed Hassoun's official status.

"While his absence initially prompted investigators to believe he was missing, the video shown on international television depicted the Marine being held against his will by masked captors," a Marine Corps statement said. "[I]n light of what we have observed on the terrorists' video, we have classified him as captured."

A spokesman for the family here -- Hassoun, 24, lives with three of his brothers in a prosperous subdivision southwest of Salt Lake City -- said the family's anguish about his fate was exacerbated by the official suggestion that he had deserted. The militants holding Hassoun said on their video that they had lured him away from his base and kidnapped him.

At a news conference Tuesday night, the spokesman, Tarik Nosseir, said, "The Marine Corps have officially notified the family that Wassef's status as a deserter has been revoked."

A Marine Corps spokeswoman, Capt. Amy Malugani, said, "The circumstances surrounding his absence are still being investigated."

12 militarybrat  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:29:21pm

It is entirely possible that Hassoun really lost a bit of his mind after seeing someone he knew and was close to blown up- he was just able to act more readily than those who weren't Arabs and didn't speak Arabic in trying to get out of the situation. Someone's bloody death can affect even people with the best of intentions in the beginning.

This may prove to be something very sinister, at this point, I have a hard time saying that, across the board, someone who is in danger of being beheaded horribly is collabarating with the enemy.

Don't forget, though, that Muslim Americans have been killed in Iraq fighting with America. I've run across their names as I put together an Iraq War quilt. Check out militarycity.com for names.

13 Daybrother  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:29:56pm
“I really don’t care; they’re all gonna die,”...Lance Cpl. Ryan Christiansen, 25, from the Chicago suburb of Huntley speaking from Falujha during the "negotiations"
14 Dianna  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:30:50pm

Poor bastard.

Let's try a little charity, here, folks. He's going to die, horribly, because he wasn't thinking straight.

If I count all the times I wasn't thinking, and the consequences of those bad decisions, all I can say is, man, I'm lucky. He's not.

15 kstagger  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:31:59pm

Saw this on Drudge

Al-Qaida Iraqi plans

I wonder how Spain feels to be a pawn in Osama's plans?

16 Cousin Dave  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:33:11pm

#9 doppelganger:

I so want to believe this guy isn't a traitorous, deserting scumbag. I really do. But this story smells so fishy, my cat is rubbing against the monitor meowing for all she's worth.

I smell it too, but I'm leaning towards a different explanation. Consider: the guy is of Arabic descent, he speaks the language fluently, and he is trained as a translator. What you use such a person for?

Covert ops.

If so, then this is all a cover story. I don't know if this story was pre-planned or if they are making it up as they go, but what they are doing is trying to keep the poor guy from being tortured and exectued.

17 Brenda  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:37:06pm

Muz don't seem good Marine material for starters. Is the guy a citizen at least? The military is not too particular on that account.

Green card holders are officially acceptable, and papers are not checked closely so there are illegal aliens among the troops. Unwise, to say the least.

We shouldn't forget Ali Muhammad who helped Osama set up the African embassy bombings. He was an Egyptian who became a sergeant in the Special Forces, then used some of those military skills in terrorist enterprises.

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

18 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:39:08pm

OT: Britain thinks Saddam will be executed.

[Link: www.thisislondon.com...]

and this is bad how?

19 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:39:32pm

#1 Awooga

"arab marine" is fishy in it of itself

I happen to know more than a few arabs in the military. One of them has literally had my life in his hands.

Take your prejudice elsewhere.

20 David (Shabbos Goy)  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:45:43pm

'Tis rather strange.

Covert ops or desertion, then kidnapping both seem plausible.

Covert ops would be a mistake on his superiors' parts. (not the idea of covert ops, but whatever the details were).

Desertion would be a mistake on his part.

Either way, I'd rather not see more beheadings. I'm not a huge fan of the death penalty, administered judicially or not. Administered by jihadi nutbags is particularly revolting.

David

21 Yehudit  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:46:39pm

And now for some good news: Iraqi talk radio! (and they are all calling in to wish the new government well.)

22 Mashiki  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:47:45pm

#16 Cousin Dave,

Interesting theory to say the least. Have to admit it does make some sense.

Nice to see you around tho...I'm guessing you had enough of that other...place.

23 D-Fens  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:51:32pm

He's a US Marine. I believe we should stand by him and seek his safe return.

It's certainly possible that he wasn't thinking straight and that his language skills and ethnic background led him into a trap. If he grew up in the US he probably didn't really know how evil and ruthless those guys can be.

If he is guilty of more than an emotional overreaction to the gore of war, and his subsequent dereliction of duty, the military will deal with it but I don't think we should be trying him on the internet and assuming the worst about him.

24 scaramouche  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:52:06pm

I'm reserving judgement until we discover the truth, but my gut tells me that is what in Cold War parlance used to be called a "defection".

25 Desert Rat  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:52:36pm

Ugh. I hope the terrorists don't saw his head off like they did to the others. Even deserters don't deserve to die like that..

26 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:53:20pm

#16 Cousin Dave: Hmmmm...well, if you're right, then it wasn't a very successful covert op, I guess. I hope this poor schlub is properly trained for such a situation.

27 Ann  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:53:20pm

#21:
Thanks, Yehudit! Your link made me smile-:)

28 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:55:22pm

OT,
Can any of you computer gurus tell me what hidden registry entry keeps rewriting drusearch at reboot? I just can't track it down.

29 Samita  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:56:35pm

covert ops in full BDUs?

don't think so..

but I mirror the comments of #19 reaganite, being a former Arab linquist during GW1.. Religion is not a factor in determining commitment.

30 sarahconnor  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:57:23pm

i would suspend judgment for the moment, and consider what we know. we know muslims make up a very small segment of the US military. we also know that traitors in this war (akbar, yee) have been disproportionately muslim. we know that hassoun is a lebanese muslim and became a naturalized US citizen four years ago. on this basis, it's impossible to draw any firm conclusions about THIS muslim's intentions.

i would also keep in mind, the iraqis who work on US posts are often friendly, grateful, and as anxious as we are to wipe out the terrorists. so another possibility i would propose is that, if hassoun did have the intention to desert or commit treason, our iraqi allies may have given him to the bad guys on purpose. it does look fishy; however, i just don't think we can judge yet.

31 Dave Ray  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 12:59:48pm

25:

nobody deserve's beheading, except maybe the savages who commit it. An eye for an eye in that case.

32 Ann  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:00:24pm

#28 reaganite:
Fiance (guru) wants to know what your setting is for your homepage address is...

33 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:01:30pm

#21

That was just the thing I needed to see after seeing this condescending piece of dreck last thing last night.

34 ballantrae  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:03:05pm

#19 reaganite

You really have to tell this story. Maybe you can't right now, but someday you have to write this stuff up.

I think a lot of people here have great stories to tell but just don't get around to it. Personally, I haven't got much to tell, just a fat balding Jew on a computer. But a lot of you folks are incredibly interesting.


-ron

35 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:03:29pm

#32 Ann
LGF of course! But after reboot it goes back to drusearch. I've run Ad-Aware, Spybot, Spyware Blaster, CWshredder, NAV, and Hijack This.

It has to be a registry entry that I'm missing.

36 Ann  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:03:39pm

#32 Ann to Ann:
{nice grammir}

37 Dianna  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:03:48pm

#33 Fenway Nation

Gah! Disgusting. And you had to go to sleep on that? I'd have been up fuming for the rest of the night.

38 scaramouche  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:05:26pm

This prompted my biggest laugh of the day--an article in Beirut newspaper about the Lebanese Prime Minister asking Spain--Spain--to play a larger role in the Middle East peace process. In the realm of bad ideas, this ranks right up there with square wheels and fast-food head cheese.

39 Luigi  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:05:35pm

way OT:

Went to this excellent exhibit today at the Met museum in NYC on Byzantium in the period leading up to the conquest by Ottoman Turks. I wanted to bring up here that they had a very rare churchbell from before the conquest. It is so rare because churchbells were illegal after the Turks took over, and only a few survived as they were nearly all confiscated and melted down to make cannons.

40 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:05:49pm

#34 ballantrae

You really have to tell this story. Maybe you can't right now, but someday you have to write this stuff up.

It's really simple. He was my boss, a Palestinian born in Baghdad. In my job, everytime we go to work it's life threatening. I trust the man 100%.

41 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:06:43pm

OT: Breaking News, 6/30/2004, 5:00 pm EST.

Five men from Islamic nations were detained after asking for directions to a Pennsylvania nuclear power plant.

Say they were going "fishing".

I'll bet!

42 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:09:27pm

#41 LtTw

Say they were going "fishing".

I know it sounds "fishy" but they very well may have been doing just that. I used to go fishing at various nuke plants. The warm water encourages the food chain.

Then again, they may not have been going "fishing".

43 Buckeye Abroad  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:09:32pm

#29 Samita

Thank you for your service.

44 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:10:07pm

#37

Gah! Disgusting. And you had to go to sleep on that? I'd have been up fuming for the rest of the night.

On the contrary, I hope I can find the article printed up in the next Newsweak so I can roll it up real tight. Then, when the next person who tells me There's no bias in the media! I can whack them on the nose like a puppy that just piddled on the carpet.

45 William  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:10:22pm

This just in, islamic terrorists sought to bomb the Panama Canal:

Al-Qaeda Sought to Bomb Panama Canal, Honduran Security Says

June 30, 2004 (Bloomberg) -- The al-Qaeda terrorist network plotted to bomb the Panama Canal, one of the world's most important shipping routes, Agence France-Presse reported, citing Leonel Sauceda, a spokesman for the Honduran security ministry.

Sauceda confirmed Security Minister Oscar Alvarez's report to local media that Adnan El Shukrijumah, or Jafar al-Tayar, a suspected al-Qaeda operative was in the Central American country late last month and "planned to plant explosives in the Panama Canal to hamper boat traffic in the area,'' AFP said.

While Alvarez didn't say when Shukrijumah entered or left the country, or when he passed through it, Sauceda said the suspect was in Honduras on May 27, AFP said. The Panama Canal Authority says at least 35 ships pass through the canal daily, and more than 60 percent of that cargo originates in ports on the East Coast of the U.S.

The U.S. last month said Shukrijumah is a trained pilot and may be trying to use trucks as weapons. The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation said Shukrijumah has a driver's license with a Miramar, Florida, address and may try to enter the U.S. with a passport from Guyana, Saudi Arabia, Canada, or Trinidad.

[Link: quote.bloomberg.com...]

46 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:10:48pm

Followup to #41:
Quote:

The men, one from Pakistan and four from Bangladesh, reportedly were seen yesterday at a rest area along Interstate 80, on their way to the Salem Township plant, according to The Citizen's Voice newspaper of Wilkes-Barre, Pa.

State police pulled them over about four miles south of the Susquehanna Steam and Electric Power Plant.

The men, who were released last night, claimed they were asking directions to the river near the plant because they wanted to go fishing, the paper said.

Federal and state authorities said the FBI was notified.

Two of the men were detained by immigration authorities because of visa issues, the agency said, according to The Citizen's Voice.

But there is no cause for alarm.

We all know the 3-eyed fish from downstream of the nuke plant taste the very best....

/extreme irony - don't try this at home!

47 Ann  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:11:31pm

#35 reaganite:
LGF is my homepage, too! I admit that, dammit.

So you reboot, LGF shows up, then this stupid search engine? Or does LGF not show up at all?

48 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:11:52pm

#42 reaganite

True, and regular people have visa issues on occasion, too.

49 Sydney Carton  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:13:42pm

reaganite,

What's happening is that a separate registry key is probably being run on boot-up, and THAT separate key changes the registry settings. This happened to me recently. I tried to get rid of something that kept altering my homepage, and after re-boot it didn't seem to work at all.

Do a search for separate registry keys. The malicious one will probably be very tiny, less than 1k. Mine was found in my root directory. Then, once you find it, do a search in your registry for the filename, and delete the run entry.

50 Jimmy2  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:13:55pm

#41 LtTw

"Williams said the authorities found no links to terrorism and concluded there was no cause for alarm"

Who put these authorities in a position of authority???

51 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:14:14pm

#47 Ann

So you reboot, LGF shows up, then this stupid search engine? Or does LGF not show up at all?

It depends, sometimes drusearch shows up first, other times it shows when I open a new browser window. Sometimes it adds itself to my favorites list, sometimes it doesn't. I ran regedit but couldn't find the hidden file.

52 Jheka  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:14:46pm

#15 kstagger:

The most interesting part of that story? Look where they found the booklet.

53 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:15:01pm

#2 V the K 6/30/2004 02:20PM PST
Um, excuse me...
{snip}
Anyone else troubled that the bases are infiltrated by insurgents?


Why, no dear--have some more tea. Lemon biscuit?

/should have offered a funny brownie with extra irony

54 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:15:44pm

#49 Sydney Carton

Do a search for separate registry keys. The malicious one will probably be very tiny, less than 1k. Mine was found in my root directory. Then, once you find it, do a search in your registry for the filename, and delete the run entry.

Thanks, I've tried that though, I think it's altered a registry value, not just a key.

55 maf  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:18:32pm

#39 Luigi

Thank you for the link. Very beautiful.

56 Dianna  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:19:52pm

#44

LOL!

57 NuclearTinkerbell  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:22:44pm

#29 Samita

I served as interpreter/interrogator (97F), as well. In fact, we probably attended DLI about the same time if you served in Gulf 1. I went on to become an S2 for a combat engineer unit.

With all due respect to you and reaganite, whom I enjoy reading a great deal, I no longer think muslims have any place in the services. Not even as translators.

Their loyalties are too conflicted.

Even before 9-11, there was a great deal of suspicion and double checking on any muslim in service. DLI's Arabic language school was closely observed at all times. Their instructors are referred to as 'operatives', or worse.

I can't imagine feeling very confident going into battle with someone who is sworn not to take up arms against a fellow muslim or risk hell. That is not the person I'd want to have my back. An apostate? OK.

58 Ann  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:24:53pm

Sorry, OT again:
reagnite:
Fiance muttering about what a POS drusearch is. LOL!
Check your e-mail. Not easy, but he thinks he has it.

59 Daybrother  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:25:06pm

reaganite

registry tools

60 Sydney Carton  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:25:27pm

"Thanks, I've tried that though, I think it's altered a registry value, not just a key."

Hmmm...

Here's what Googling some help found:

Help on killing Drusearch

Homepage hijacking

Editing the registry may not do the trick. The culprit this time was a file called linux32.zip in the system32 folder that appeared to be executing at startup. Deleting the file stopped the behavior.
61 john5z  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:25:50pm

Reaganite:

What OS you running?

62 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:26:09pm

54
I'd like to get my hands on the little cock smoker who wrote the hijack code.

Try the remedies on this page.
My was a reg entry that was being recreated by a piece of script. It would recreate its self when deleted.

hklm,software,windows,currentversion,run or run once.
you can also poke around in your web settings in the reg.

Export the whole registery before you start changing stuff.

Good luck tools here
[Link: www.spywareinfo.com...]

63 rabidfox  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:26:26pm

I want to add my voice to that of Reganite and the others of his persuasion. There are just too many unknows at this point that we don't know. It could have been something as innocent as slipping off for a "home-cooked" meal rather than out and out desertion. If he was that upset it's entirely possible that he crawled away to get some TLC from people who might be a little closer to him (culturally). I remember being overseas at one point and was dying for a McDonnalds - and I hadn't just seen one of my buddies blown to kingdom come.

64 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:26:38pm

#35 reaganite

Check your homepage address on the Internet Options (or equivalent)--sounds like it may have been overwritten, like mine was. In that case, you just overwrite it again with LGF.

(Big clue: doesn't reload LGF anymore.)

Dunno from your posts, so far--may help, may not be the problem.

65 D-Fens  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:27:08pm

reaganite,

My son was having a similar problem so I had to give him The Talk: "Son, when you interface with a computer you are also interfacing with every computer that computer has ever interfaced with, so use protection every time run your security programs every day." ;-)

I finally ended up installing a new browser (Mozilla Firefox) for him. I ran all the bot killers I could find and nothing could find the offending bits.

66 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:27:14pm
67 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:27:19pm

Do y'all think it's an attempted defection or desertion and he was grabbed by these guys?

Apparently he did leave the base on his own initiative, so that's being AWOL. No one's suggesting that a raiding party entered the base, singled out this man, and took him away.

WTF is going on here?

68 Thousand Sons  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:27:51pm

#54 reaganite

Here's a thread I found re: killing drusearch.

http://www.freedomlist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1 17553

The most important bit I got from the lengthy thread was : "You may need to be in Safe Mode to find it and show hidden/system files."

I hope this helps....

69 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:29:42pm

hijackthis repair tool
[Link: www.tomcoyote.com...]

read carefully. dont forget to export your registry before changing it.

70 Ms. Andi  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:31:04pm

So how many of these Muslims do we have in the Marines? I'm sure some have served honorable, but I'm suspicious.

btw, OT

I'm still snickering over this because I hate the "Today Show" so much.

Protest Warriors crash the Today Show.

71 Sydney Carton  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:32:03pm

In general, be very careful about which applications you use to clean up spyware and other registry hacks. Some of those so-called applications themselves are registry hacks.

More info here:

[Link: spyblocker-software.com...]

72 john5z  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:32:31pm

I got hijacked by a different website.

Tried the spyware programs, still hijacked.

Then went to an earlier restore point in XP and executed it.

Removed the hijacker.

73 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:32:45pm

#54 reaganite

Nemmind my #64. All you get now is my commiseration expertise:

Poor baby!

74 shimra  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:34:51pm

I don't feel we should pass judgement on this poor guy even if he did desert, is Muslim, etc....That being said, I wonder how many Sephardic Jews of Middle Eastern Origin who know Arabic, and look Arabic are being used as army translators?

75 D-Fens  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:35:00pm

Human beings are so amazingly resiliant. Seems like Iraqis are pretty optimistic these days. I hope it lasts.

Yehudit, thanks for the link to the Iraqi talk radio story, it's so good to read good news for a change.

76 Colt  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:35:22pm

#66 Rayra

Princeton Lyman from Council on Foreign Relations is on Brit Hume right now talking about Sudan, and just asserted it is only muslims killing muslims, painting the genocide as wholly anti-black.

(Not assuming you don't know, but) The Darfur Muslims are Sufi, considered apostate by the Salafi government.

77 sarahconnor  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:35:52pm

#63 rabidfox,

yes, but i should clarify, i'm having to work pretty hard to suspend judgment. NTB #57 has an excellent point. being prudent about conflicting loyalties isn't racist, it's realistic. if we were discussing "suspending judgment" of people named schnitzelburg or knudeltopf seeking sensitive positions during WWII, i think we'd be laughing our asses off.

78 kehenry1  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:36:13pm

Ms. Rand Rahim, Iraqi Representative to the US and Latif Rashid was on cspan today, raising the flag over the new EMBASSY of the Republic of Iraq. Breakdown on what they said:

1) Iraq is free (repeat 20x)
2) Thank you coalition forces, particularly US (repeat 20X)
3) Grateful for the sacrifices of the US people and their partners in freeing Iraq. They won't be forgotten. (repeat 20x)
4) The enemies of Iraq are the insurgents. They blow up the Iraqi Children. Innocent men and women on the buses. The insurgents are the enemies of Iraq and every Iraqi knows it. (repeat 20X)

The Iraqis speak

79 kehenry1  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:38:23pm

.

80 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:38:36pm

#66 Rayra 6/30/2004 03:27PM PST
Completely whitewashing the southern Sudanese Christians and Animists that have been slaughtered.
Completely whitewashing any trace of Islamic Jihad from the killing.
Sonofabitch.

My condolences to your blood pressure!

Maybe he just doesn't want to get sidetracked by that whole "selling children into slavery and cutting the breasts off gangraped women so they won't be able to feed any babies that might develop." That would be so OT!

He still shouldn't be exposing the "racism card" of this "Religion {sic} of universal brotherhood and peace and butterfly blossoms and behead--er, baby smothering--er, beauty and brightness."

/whacked once too often by the obscene irony

81 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:38:47pm

I am a sysadmin for a large company and manage thousands of windows clients. The tools I posted are above board.

when this happened to me it was a piece of script that was running on startup as a hidden process to import a key every time the machine booted.

Hit the windows update site as well to make sure you are patched up on the browser.


good luck.

82 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:38:54pm

#57 NuclearTinkerbell

I no longer think muslims have any place in the services. Not even as translators.

Not all Arabs are Muslims.

83 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:39:34pm

#59 Daybrother
thanks, I'll give that a shot!

84 Lapsed Leftist  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:40:47pm

It seems to me that in any case, regardless of intent, loyalty, or circumstance, the important thing is that these animals have their hands on an US Marine and are threatening to behead him unless their demands are met.

If it turns out this guy was a traitor who was planning to defect and got in over his head -- even though we may not shed tears for his likely fate if this is the case -- let's remember that the animals are threatening not only him but every soldier from the Coalition.

If he is harmed, a swift and deadly response, please.

85 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:43:36pm

#60 Sydney Carton

The culprit this time was a file called linux32.zip in the system32 folder that appeared to be executing at startup. Deleting the file stopped the behavior.

Searching now!

#61 john5z
XP Pro.

#62 Radian

I'd like to get my hands on the little cock smoker who wrote the hijack code.

You and me both!

86 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:43:55pm

#78 kehenry1

GREAT news!

/"Now that just shows how ignorant the poor, dumb masses are, and why they need someone like Hillabill or Janus Flipflop Kenne--er, Kerry to guide them into the land of high taxes and free extra-hard cheese handouts."

(And sorry I couldn't use the link in #79--broken?)

Gotta get back to work. Thanks for the good news, all who took the trouble to link! (and even for funny takes on dreck--I feel so special!)

Hope everything works well for you in the drusearch dispatching, reagonite!

87 Luigi  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:45:59pm

OT, I guess

Its not that the world is perverted, its just that real life is irrelevant. I just went into Google News and the number one headline is this:

Sudan Genocide Continues;
Protesters on the March
Family News In Focus - 25 minutes ago
There were protests in Washington recently aimed at the government of Sudan. Protesters charged the Khartoum government with continuing genocide against its own people. About 100 demonstrators marched outside ...

Yes, friends, Family News In Focus has the only story in the world that anybody should be paying any attention to. A real live genocide is going on yet again right under our noses and nobody but nobody gives a sh*t. Maybe if you sent a Marine to the Sudan to pull a panty over someone's head someone might do something to save several hundred thousand lives.

88 Powderfinger  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:46:51pm

O/T: John F'n Kerry drops the ball:

Boston's Dem mayor Thomas Menino on the Kerry Campaign: ""Small minded and incompetent"

Republican MA Gov. Mitt Romney picks it up and runs with it.

Notice that al-Globe declines to use the Menino quote.

89 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:47:56pm
90 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:48:28pm

#68 Thousand Sons
Tried that :-(

#69 Radian
Giving that a shot as well!

#81 Radian

Hit the windows update site as well to make sure you are patched up on the browser.

Been there already! Thanks for your help.

If all else fails I'll format that partitiion and start over! GAH!

91 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:51:15pm
92 rabidfox  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:52:18pm

Saraconnor: While I am normally a suspicious person, I'd like a little more info before I levy judgement. Re your WWII reference: Hitler was claiming that all persons of Germanic descent should support him. In response Adm Nimitz (sp?), Eisenhower, and a few other high ranking, well know Americans of Germanic descent issued a rebuttal. We had trouble with German-suspicions during WWI, but in WWII there was far more acceptance despite the Am. Nazi party. Mostly because German-Americans were also out repudiating Hitler/Nazism. The problem was with the Japanese-Americans who were mostly silent during the run-up to WWII (much like the muslims of today). As a result, they were viewed with a great deal of suspicion, leading to detention camps. Muslims are reaping the wages of their silence in our suspicion of them -- much like the Japanese of the 1930's.

93 Ann  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:54:14pm

#90 reaganite:
Sorry that our suggestion didn't help.
Deep breath! LOL. Drink?
Please let us know when you slay the thing!

94 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:54:37pm

I think I killed it! Thanks to all of you!

#91 Rayra

Sure. Pay not attention to it being muslims near critical infrastructure. Just a coincidence, nothing to see, move along. ;)

That's not what I was saying! But I still believe in American values.

95 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:54:47pm

90

The removal tools should catch it unless it is really new.

You can do a search for *.reg. You may be able to find the key it is importing. If it keeps coming back, something is importing the values on reboot.

I got a coolweb hack. Here is the repair tool for it.
This will not hurt your machine if you do not have this hijack. This program fixed my problem.

[Link: www.spychecker.com...]

96 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:55:56pm

#93 Ann
I think the issue was Ad-Aware was conflicting with HijackThis.

97 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:57:11pm

#95 Radian

I got a coolweb hack.

I had the same thing, CWshredder killed that for me. Off to take a look at your link. Thanks for your help.

98 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:58:18pm

94

Hope you pox is cleared up..

99 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 1:59:24pm

#95 Radian
LOL, I just clicked your link to find we were talking about the same thing!

100 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:00:11pm
101 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:01:41pm

SHIT! It's still there! GRRRRRR!

102 zulubaby  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:01:48pm

I'm interested in the "emotionally traumatized" bit. I'm sure that happens a lot. I don't know what to make of this story. If he was emotionally traumatized before, imagine what a mess he is now with lunatics threatening to behead him. Where is his family? What do they have to say about this?

103 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:04:38pm

99
That thing was stubborn. I spent hours looking on my machine for the code and could never find it. googled "get rid of coolweb" and found the tool.

someone deserves a kick in the nuts for that hack.

104 Dianna  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:05:23pm

Zulubaby, his brothers live in Utah. They're evidently kicking up a fuss about him being called a deserter, and I can't say I blame them.

I'll be following this one.

Anyway, I'm off to go bother the ANSWER idiots, and try to keep them from looting Needless Markup.

Take care.

105 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:07:48pm

#103 Radian
Coolweb was easier to get rid of than this POS! I still can't get it. I've re-written my registry 4 times now and the thing is still there.

106 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:08:22pm

It leaves the reg entries once the program is removed. if you run the fix and reset your homepage reboot and it is still screwed up LMK. You can repair ie6 from the control panel, add remove option and it should fix your search panel.

107 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:11:04pm

105 reaganite
is it redirecting you to coolweb and taken over your search panel?

108 Ms. Andi  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:11:22pm

#101 reaganite

Check your email.

109 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:12:27pm

#97 reganite,

I have been hijacked for almost a month now, and still can't get rid of it, of course I'm practically pc illiterate, but I keep trying, good luck with yours.

110 Ann  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:12:31pm

reaganite:
How about this:
HP just for you

Exceeds the standard military spec for ruggedness (MIL-STD-810F) and meets the Ingress Protection rating of IP-54, for dust and water penetration.


:)

111 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:12:59pm
112 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:13:03pm

#87 Luigi 6/30/2004 03:45PM PST
OT, I guess

Its not that the world is perverted, its just that real life is irrelevant. I just went into Google News and the number one headline is this:

Sudan Genocide Continues;
Protesters on the March
Family News In Focus - 25 minutes ago
There were protests in Washington recently aimed at the government of Sudan. Protesters charged the Khartoum government with continuing genocide against its own people. About 100 demonstrators marched outside ...

Yes, friends, Family News In Focus has the only story in the world that anybody should be paying any attention to. A real live genocide is going on yet again right under our noses and nobody but nobody gives a sh*t. Maybe if you sent a Marine to the Sudan to pull a panty over someone's head someone might do something to save several hundred thousand lives.

Luigi, did you eat anything that tasted odd today? I can't understand your logic at all!

"Family News in Focus" = Christian = underreported demonstrator numbers in "unbiased" general media.

Khartoum = capital of Sudan, where you agree genocide is occurring

Multiple protests against genocide = news exposure to "real live genocide."

Why is it bad that this is the #1 Google News Headline? I'm so delighted I may go grab a Diet Vanilla Coke (with a shot of cream) to celebrate!

And you are *grousing* about this? Not following you....

113 zulubaby  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:15:20pm

Dianna

Anyway, I'm off to go bother the ANSWER idiots

Where are you? And good luck.

114 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:17:53pm

109

I was to the point that I was going to reimage my laptop. I had to use netscape in the meantime /puke.

115 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:18:45pm

#101 reaganite 6/30/2004 04:01PM PST

Cruddy cat litter! Y'know, I couldn't kill the files because they were "being used by another program or...."

So I pasted in my old homepage address, and the stupid bug I'd caught couldn't hook up to its system anymore.

Wish it were so simple for you.

I have a partition with a total reboot on my *own* unit (yes it uses memory, and yes I have the CDs, and no I don't care-its faster and lazier--er, easier), and I keep absolutely everything on CDs and/or DVDs.

And I'm still gonna get me some nice Mozilla and more anti-tinfoil spyslayers. You have convinced me in ways that mere scare stories cannot....

Poor baby!

116 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:20:28pm
117 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:22:20pm

#109 'Nam Grunt

Thank you for your service.

118 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:22:43pm

115

you can boot to the recovery console on w2k or xp and delete files. You can use 3rd party nt boot disks to kill files without OS locks. However delete the wrong stuff and you are screwed.

119 waitaminnit  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:22:52pm

Hey Reagonite- if you have XP try typing in System Restore in the search option. Some of these worms settle in there ! System Restore runs every time you reboot. It is also , kinda like, behind its own firewall inside your computer. Most anti-viruses can't touch it there. You can disable System Restore for a short time, run your anti-virus, the restore the System Restore. It worked for me on another virus. Hope this helps.

120 NuclearTinkerbell  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:23:36pm

#82 reaganite

Not all Arabs are Muslims.

Not what I said. Not what I meant. I have nothing against any race.

I think that we should be very careful about admitting ideologies into the services, though.

My security clearance was held up because my father was a South African. No other reason. Remember all of the questionnaires there used to be? 'Are you or have you ever been a communist, homosexual, bed-wetter, sleep walker . . .?' Islam is pretty un-American as an ideology, yet muslims are allowed to serve in very sensitive positions.

I know a lot of Sikhs, (OK, a few Sikhs) who would be absolutely perfect for sensitive positions and as translators. At least we would share a common enemy. Any Arabic speaker, Jewish, Sikh, Persian, Mexican-American, whatever, who is loyal primarily to the US is fine. Muslims, by definition, cannot do this. Their first, and only true loyalty must be to Islam.

121 sometwo  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:23:48pm

Looks like the US has its own Tanenbaum situation. 400 arab convicts were released in order to rescue Elchanan Tanenbaum who was kidnapped under suspicious circumstances.

122 Sydney Carton  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:25:21pm

Once, I had a particularly malicious program infect my PC, and in my attempts to remove it I really screwed things up.

As a last-ditch effort, after booting into Safe mode, I tried windows restore.

Amazingly, the thing worked like magic. Imagine - this little calendar pops up, and it lets you select the date in time which you'd like to go back to and restore everything about your system from then. It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen.

Upon hearing this, most people are incredulous. They don't really believe that Restore works. Maybe it doesn't all the time. But I was darn lucky. At the lowest, it totally worked. And I didn't have to worry about re-installing ANYTHING.

123 waitaminnit  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:25:56pm

" THEN " restore System Restore. Preview is my friend-preview is my friend-preview is my friend.......

124 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:27:02pm

Thanks LT, gee I haven't said LT in a long time.

reaganite, I'm buying a new pentium IV tomorrow that should solve my problem.

125 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:27:19pm

#106 Radian

is it redirecting you to coolweb and taken over your search panel?

No, it's overiding my homepage. I've tried everything I can. I think I'll run my laptop and format my C drive on my desktop. Nothing I do seems to work.

126 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:28:04pm

122

Worth a try. coolweb uses script and registry hacks to mess your pc up.

127 Sydney Carton  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:28:36pm

reaganite,

Try system restore. If you're going to re-format, you might as well try that first.

128 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:30:59pm

125

what is it putting in as a homepage?

If it is vile you can email me offline, lmk?

129 zulubaby  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:31:55pm

Rayra (#116)

Yet an early report placed his wife and children in Lebanon.

Very suspicious. He's been abducted, will most likely be murdered and there are rumours of him being a deserter. Even if that is true, he doesn't deserve what is surely going to be his fate. The whole thing is weird though. Why would he be living in the US and his wife and child in Lebanon?

130 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:31:56pm

Let's be more precise about the home town, shall we?

"Corporal Hassoun, a fluent Arabic-speaker who had been living with his family in West Jordan, Utah, outside Salt Lake City"

I wonder who named that 'burb.... Could go either way, and I don't have time to Google. But the demographics might be interesting. (Could even be that the relatives will want to work toward helping--or avenging, G-d forbid--this marine.)

* * * *

Rayra, I guess it *has* been a long day....

I shouldn't have to use an irony tag when I am being that blessed blunt about a group that contains 1 Paki, 4 Bangladeshis, and *TWO* (count them! Convert to percentages: 40%!!!) visa problems.

Especially when I reported that particular info all special-like. (But life is full of oddities--or these kiddos may be sporting multiple tails even as the wire-tapping requests are being typed. ;^D )

But here you go: I think the 2/5 visa problem is an item of interest when we are in a declared war with Osama bin Ladin (his speech is linked a lot on LGF), who is allied with *guess* what nationality/ethnic groups!!!

/bludgeoned with a blunt irony

131 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:32:46pm

#128 Radian

what is it putting in as a homepage?

No idea, it's a POS though.

Everytime I think I have it out I reboot, and it pops back in.

132 NuclearTinkerbell  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:33:19pm

#70 Ms. Andi

Very funny link. I loved the horrified expressions of the hosts when they looked at the monitors and saw what was happening behind them.

So how many of these Muslims do we have in the Marines? I'm sure some have served honorable, but I'm suspicious.

If this is to be believed, there are about 4000 muslims currently serving. I'm going to look for another source, though.

Other than asking what religious preference a soldier would like on his dog-tags, I'm not sure how this data is collected since I left the service.

133 lazytart  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:34:32pm

Please forgive an inappropriate OT:

Just returned from taking kid to Spiderman 2.
The movie was so poignant, so well done, so moving, so quintessentially American, y'all MUST go and take your children.

Of course, the special effects were breathtaking, but the use of music was excellent, but the story- the story!

Good versus evil, sacrifice for a bigger goal in time of trouble, community versus individuality- I was entirely MOVED.

What a breath of fresh air to escape from REAL evil, including that putrid sack of shit Michael Moore.

No one will remember THAT movie by this weekend. Ha ha.

Rant/off

134 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:36:57pm

131

sounds like coolweb.

you can search for *.ws , js, vbs on your pc, may be able to find and kill the file. tools, folder option, view, make sure it is showing system files.

you can try repairing or re-installing ie.

reformatting sucks.

135 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:38:24pm

One other thing this POS is doing is it's overriding my cookie preferences.

136 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:39:01pm

Reaganite,

My homepage comes up with search for you, and about blank on my address bar.

137 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:40:27pm

#134 Radian
drusearch is a varient of coolweb. I just can't kill the little fucker!

138 a soldier's dad  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:41:29pm

My son may have been right. He said that it smelled like AWOL to him, a soldier traveling alone in-country.

139 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:41:41pm

#136 'Nam Grunt

My homepage comes up with search for you, and about blank on my address bar.

Just makes you want to kill someone doesn't it?

140 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:42:49pm

#129 zulubaby 6/30/2004 04:31PM PST
Rayra (#116)
Yet an early report placed his wife and children in Lebanon.

Mind if I step in?

Standard procedure is to enter the USA, court and marry and American of unsure religious stance. Pressure her to convert while making as many babies as possible. Transport mother and children to ME, where she is trapped in an extended family that takes over child programming activities and keeps the pressure on the mother.

The man, using another segment of his Arabic name possibiliies (son of, father of, from hometown, etc.) gets new papers with a "different" name. He returns to the USA and courts/marries/pressures/impregnates another American girl.

Repeat as often as permitted. 5 years per wife * 4 wives = 20 years, almost all in the comparative luxury of the USA with maybe 15 children to show for it.

Lots of new-blood Islogical babies replace the few American children each mother might have produced. (This increases the *win* percentage for the Islogical population increase, BTW.)

Don't know the particulars of this case, but I know several of these gals, including one I worked with, who laughed at me and "took the baby to visit his mother" many years ago....

Just sayin'.

141 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:42:57pm

After tomorrow, this tower will be used for target practice, (pentium III 7 years old).

142 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:45:41pm

here is a link where someone killed the biatch with ad aware6 updated after download and hijack this(hjt)

[Link: www.freedomlist.com...]

I hate rebuilding a pc, you always loose something that you really need.

143 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:46:35pm

#141 'Nam Grunt

After tomorrow, this tower will be used for target practice, (pentium III 7 years old).

I built this puter last fall, it's a great system, just jacked up by this POS hack.

144 a soldier's dad  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:48:02pm

Reaganite is battling a virus? I wish you the best with that, it can get ugly, but it sounds like you have lots of competent help here.

145 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:48:45pm

#142 Radian
I tried all of that twice!

146 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:48:47pm

141

I blew the shit out of a stack of old pc's after the work upgrade. Buckshot has the best effect.

Unless you have access to class3 stuff.

I'd love to blast one with a m-60 machine gun.

147 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:48:53pm
148 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:49:34pm

#124 'Nam Grunt 6/30/2004 04:27PM PST
Thanks LT, gee I haven't said LT in a long time.

reaganite, I'm buying a new pentium IV tomorrow that should solve my problem.

That's cool--I haven't been one in a long time. (Inactive reserve promotions--gotta love 'em! Guess it was supposed to be an incentive....) LtTw is short for "LightTower." (6 fewer keystrokes)

Advice okay? Get a partitioned drive, especially if you can't get the CDs. Keep *everything* on CDs--unless you can get a drive with Read/Write DVD and CD! Then keep files, etc. on DVDs, instead.

That means never having to be sorry you're reformatting Drive C:.

;^D

149 a soldier's dad  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:49:57pm

Reaganite:

Feeling the temptation to rig it up with some C4 and blowing it to little tiny bits???

Don't do it... ;-)

150 Anonymous Al  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:50:21pm

...so let's see if I have this straight...

If he is beheaded, he will be getting his just deserts ??

151 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:51:42pm

#143 reaganite,

I know what you mean brother, like I said mine has been hijacked for over a month. I even went up to the local jr. college and spoke to their computer wizard and he couldn't help either, but, since I'm running windows 98, I think it's time to upgrade. good luck my friend.

152 NuclearTinkerbell  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:52:15pm

A better breakdown of religions in the services.

153 a soldier's dad  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:54:10pm

I've got a 250 gig external harddrive with most of my stuff backed up to it. I'm hoping that might help if I ever get hacked. But like someone said, you always forget something that you really need.

154 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:54:32pm
155 Samita  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:55:33pm

#57 NuclearTinkerbell

we did indeed have a man not deploy to SA back in '91 for religious beliefs. His skills were still valuable in the states. I knew this man for 4 years, trained with him. He was an honest to god RoP Muslim. It was quite apparent to me he was using the military at the time to allow him to study arabic for free. He was such a pacifist, he shouldn't have been in the military in the first place.

Was in DLI from Mar '87 to Aug '88, thought very hard about talking with the FBI/CIA - HLS office to see if I could contribute, but my Arabic is so rusty.. take at least 6 months or more to be marginally useful.

156 Radian  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:55:58pm

here is a process logger. It may pick up a hidden process.

3rd party
[Link: winfiles32.com...]

from micro$oft (linked)
[Link: windows.about.com...]

free scan from trendmicro if you don't have current anti virus
[Link: housecall.trendmicro.com...]

I wish I could be more help.

157 a soldier's dad  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:56:33pm

A friend of mine got a virus on his computer recently. He took it to a local computer store and they got rid of the virus for him. Only charged him $20, which ain't bad considering the potential loss.

158 zulubaby  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 2:58:48pm

Rayra

It also wouldn't be the first time a Marine has brought his wife / SO / family close to his duty location so he could sneak away to be with them.

Is that so terrible? Does that make somebody a "deserter"? I don't know, I can't help feeling sorry for this guy.

159 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:00:21pm

LtTw,

Thanks for the info.

Radian,

I wish I had a claymore, but 00 buck will have to do.

160 a soldier's dad  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:01:10pm

#148 LtTw

LtTw is short for "LightTower."

"Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.", eh, LtTw???

Or am I not even close?

161 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:01:53pm
162 a soldier's dad  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:03:41pm

Muslims in the military is a touchy subject for me, since my son had personal run ins with a notorious one called Ha5an Akbar...

After that I decided they should all be banned, but I admit to being biased...

163 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:05:43pm

#133 lazytart

Whoo-hoo!

I made a Seuss-oid rhyme a few topics down, which I will immodestly link here, since it looks like a done topic.

Most encouraging, and lives up to my lyrical prediction!

164 Sarah D.  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:06:26pm

reaganite:

This is the best ad/spy ware remover I've found:
[Link: www.spywareguide.com...]
Let it load, it runs from the internet.

Sarah D.

165 Ms. Andi  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:09:25pm

NuclearTinkerbell #152, #120

Thanks for the links.

166 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:09:39pm
167 NuclearTinkerbell  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:12:30pm

#155 Samita

Well, Hi! I was at DLI Germanic language school from Aug 88 - ? Too long ago. I sure miss the Presidio. One of the military's best kept secrets. I actually had a condo with a view of the bay!

I was originally sent to DLI, San Fran before DLI POM. I got two weeks "vacation" in San Fran before it was straightened out. Not a bad deal. Ft. Bragg was great, too. Did you go to Huachuca?

I never met any of the Arabic Language School grads, when I was there. You were always studying, I guess;)

168 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:13:15pm

#154 Rayra 6/30/2004 04:54PM PST
#130 LtTw 6/30/2004 04:31PM PST
/bludgeoned with a blunt irony

Ook. Tags Good.

Yah--I'll have to leave my irony in the doorway so I keep tripping over it and remember to use it....

#161 Rayra 6/30/2004 05:01PM PST
#140 LtTw - ugh. It's like one insect injecting its larvae into the body of its host.

Good analogy. Graphic as all get out (/barffle!), but good. :^}

BTW:
marry an American

"Preview? Who is this Preview, and why should I know him?"

169 Sarah D.  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:15:53pm

reaganite:

Forgot to mention this. One of the most prevalent adware pieces of crap out there is ClientMan. Symantec has an explanation. And here's the link for the remover.

Sarah D.

170 LtTw  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:16:25pm

160 a soldier's dad

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!

Why yes, that *does* ring a bell!

;^D

171 zulubaby  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:16:41pm

Rayra, you know far more than I do, obviously. I wonder if we'll even get the full story but I suppose I should reserve judgment, and sympathy, until we have more details. Nothing is adding up so far. But the reason why I asked about his family was because I wanted to know if they'd heard from him and if so, when the last time was that they'd heard from him.

172 NuclearTinkerbell  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:18:33pm

Ms. Andi

One more muslim service link.

Capt. John N. Petrie, the former base commander who now is assigned to the chief of naval operations at the Pentagon. "About 70 percent of the 1.4 million active-duty US military personnel have voluntarily declared a religious preference," said Lt. Col. Tom Begines, Defence Department spokesman. Of those 4,000 have identified themselves as Muslims, up from 2,500 in 1993. 
    Because of a common reluctance to publicly state their religion, Air Force Master Sgt. Talib Shareef, president of the recently formed Muslim American Military Association (MAMA), estimates that there may be as many as 10,000 Muslims in the armed forces.

Interesting info in here.

173 [Engineer]  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:19:46pm

#90 reaganite

Something that might help prevent something like this from happening again. Create a second user account in XP. Do NOT give it administrator privileges. Use this account normally, only using the full acount when you want to install software etc.

174 Baldy  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:45:00pm

I feel badly about this situation, whatever the story.

175 PostalWorker  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:48:46pm

#25 Desert Rat


Where are you located? Just wonder if the name LazL means anything to you.

176 PostalWorker  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 3:57:35pm

#35 reaganite

Once a product like that one gets in your system it may take over 50 registry hacks to get it back. To save time, back up files you want to save to another partition and reload your software.

I hate giving bad news but there you have it. If you want to save your IE settings, run the files and settings transfer wizard and save the resulting file to another drive first then run the wiz again when you get the system back up.

I detest search bar writers. They are the Al Queada of the internet IMO.

IF you feel brave, you can use Regcleaner to delete the programs from hte registry, but I did that once to get rid of myway and it hosed the explorer search function.

177 reaganite  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 4:01:45pm

Thanks again to all of you. I'm crossing my fingers but I seem to have got it out again. We'll see!

#176 PostalWorker
It's not too hard for me to re-format. I only run OS on my C drive, almost all other programs are on my other partitions.

178 Paco from Sefarad  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 4:23:58pm

reaganite;

Once you get your box cleaned out forget about IE.

Obviously people seem to had enough of IE after the latest discovered flaw and now THE US GOVERNMENT has sent out a warning out to internet users through its Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT), pleading users to stop using Internet Explorer and using other browsers instead. [Link: www.theinquirer.net...]
179 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 4:38:13pm

Samita and Nuclear Tinkerbell: My husband was at DLI in the mid-eighties (Russian). We had friends among the Arabic and Persian linguists, too. I was glad he was studying Russian because even then I knew the Islamists were a bigger threat. I'd love to visit Monterey again someday -- it's so beautiful there.

180 militarybrat  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 4:40:10pm

doppelganglander:

My mother in law was teaching Russian at DLI at that time.

181 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 4:48:59pm

militarybrat: That's just too weird. Is she Bulgarian by any chance?

182 militarybrat  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 4:53:14pm

No, she is as Russian as they come. There are matrioshkas everywhere, she wears the most gnarly patchwork quilt skirts and huge jewelry, and her hair is cool-aid purple which she claims is her "netchooral" color.

She also loves cabbage.

183 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 4:56:33pm

militarybrat: LOL. I was just wondering because hubby's primary teacher was a fabulous Bulgarian lady.

184 NuclearTinkerbell  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 5:00:53pm

Weird. My best friend went through the DLI's Russian school and now works for Nike in Frankfurt. She's a true polyglot!

185 Desert Rat  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 5:45:09pm

#175 PostalWorker:

I'm in Tucson, and the name "LazL" doesn't mean anything to me.

186 BRUTUS  Wed, Jun 30, 2004 11:54:22pm

#40 Reaganite:

He was my boss, a Palestinian born in Baghdad.

Born in Baghdad means he was an Iraqi, not a Palestinian. As there is no country in the world called Palestine, now or in history (except for one brief 10 minute span a few centuries ago), and since he has a legitimate country of birth, he cannot be Palestinian. He is Iraqi. He may have called himself Palestinian, but that does not make it so.

187 reaganite  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 12:57:16am

#186 BRUTUS
I wont argue the Palestine part with you.

and since he has a legitimate country of birth, he cannot be Palestinian. He is Iraqi.

So what you're saying is Colt is not an American because he was born in the UK?

188 newsonterr  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 1:01:58am

A psy-ops reply to Beheadings by the Jihadis?

With the Beheadings of foreigners in Iraq showing the true fangs of the Jihadi terrorists, we need to use some psychological-operations against them. The only way these god-crazy lunatics can be stopped in their tracks is by putting the fear of god (sic) into them. Although god is a creation of human imagination, these god-driven psychos - the Jihadis, will respond only to severe measures like the smearing pig's blood on the bodies of the Jihadis, pouring alchohol into their mouths and burying them with their feet towards Mecca after they are done away with. This would - in the crazy logic of the Jihadis ensure that they do not reach heaven (Jannat). We know this sounds crazy and barbaric. But then we are dealing with those who glorify death while killing others and can only understand this language. If readers find our suggestion to be Mad enough, they may send in suggestions which could be as effective to break the morale of the Jihadis.

newsonterror.com

189 scorched earth 138  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 3:22:20am

"We shouldn't forget Ali Muhammad who helped Osama set up the African embassy bombings. He was an Egyptian who became a sergeant in the Special Forces, then used some of those military skills in terrorist enterprises."
Ali was ASSIGNED to Special Forces, he was not an 18 series "Long tabber" an actual "Green Beret". If I remeber correctly, he gave classes to SF types on Arabic Culture.

190 scorched earth 138  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 3:25:17am

"A psy-ops reply to Beheadings by the Jihadis?

With the Beheadings of foreigners in Iraq showing the true fangs of the Jihadi terrorists, we need to use some psychological-operations against them"

Back in the day, islamic subjects who betrayed the caliph were fed to hogs! Videotape captured islamikazees being done in this way & welcome the peace!!!

191 sarahconnor  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 4:07:59am

162

soldier's dad, a friend of mine from OBC also had a run-in with mr. akbar, so i know just where you're coming from. he slept foot to foot with chris seifert. my friend lived, and has recovered quite well, thank god. but, hence the reason i have to work hard to suspend judgment here.

and by the way ya'll, foxnews reported last night that the current thinking is that hassoun attempted to enlist the help of some iraqis on post to go AWOL, who pretended to go along with it, then betrayed him to the terrorists. i have mixed feelings about this, but if i may say so, i did call it (#30).

192 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 4:30:30am

Of course, this whole situation is fishy. Was the guy AWOL? Was he kidnapped? Was he turned over to terrorists or what?

I don't know.

And frankly it doesn't matter - the terrorists have this guy and they're probably going to behead him based on their prior record with Americans kidnapped. The terrorists will make up all kinds of reasons why they'll behead him, but none of them matter. They kill for the sake of killing. It's their jihad after all - the internal struggle kind. They just want their internal struggle externalized to everyone else who doesn't think the way they do.

It is up to the Marines to discipline one of their own if he was, in fact AWOL. If some of the local help were complicit in his kidnapping, the Marines will deal with that too.

In any event, it's up to our military folks to nail the terrorists.

193 Owl  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 5:35:45am

I'm sorry, but I think anyone who vows to protect the United States from it's enemies, and then decides to RUN AWAY LIKE A COWARD ( if this is indeed what happend - we may never know...but if it is...) deserves whatever the enemy gives to him....or whatever we give to him, should we find him first.

A traitor is a traitor is a traitor. Democrat, Muslim terrorist, white supremist, whatever.

194 deadman  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 5:36:18am

reaganite - removing that nasty drusearch

Get AdAware 6.0 from www.lavasoft.de. Install it and use the update function to get the most recent signature file. Do a deep scan with all of the options checked.

from a freedom list post by Lavasoft support (nearly at the bottom - normmork), list of files and objects to be removed:R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,SearchURL = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Bar = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Page = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R0 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Start Page = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Default_Page_URL = [Link: www.dell4me.com...]
R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Default_Search_URL = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,SearchURL = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R0 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Start Page = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Bar = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Page = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Default_Page_URL = [Link: www.dell4me.com...]
R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Default_Search_URL = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R0 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerSearch,SearchAssistant = [Link: drusearch.com...]
R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerSearchURL,(Default) = [Link: mypoiskovik.com...]
O4 - HKLM..Run: [hrtcm] C:WINDOWShrtcm.exe
O4 - Global Startup: winlgn.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console (HKLM)

REBOOT
Repost new HJT log file

Make sure these folders and/or files are deleted
C:WINDOWShrtcm.exe (file)

----------------

that last guy is the monster that reinstalls it at each start up.

195 deadman  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 5:42:02am

I hasten to add that the standard version of AdAware is free and a very good product overall for keeping ones computer free of spyware, malware and tracking cookies.

196 deadman  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 5:46:03am

Oops! I should have disabled those links in the piece of the help list I cut & pasted.

197 JA  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 12:13:37pm

He's a marine and I won't condemn him until there's proof. We don't know the facts yet. I love the uniform he's wearing and I don't know anything else about him. I'd hate to lay blame on him then find out he was fighting the good fight.

198 Zack  Thu, Jul 1, 2004 12:35:41pm

All our people over there should have covert transponder implants. Kinda like LoJack for humans.


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