and he'll go on the list of people killed "during the uprising", right alongside the suicide bombers.

Monsters! If Paleo-adoration is not the ultimate example of Dissociative Personality Disorder in the DSM-IV, it sure as hell ought to be. This is what they do to those who truly give a shit about people in the West Bank & Gaza - got that, ISM?

Where's the World Court when you need it?

That looks like a US made rifle. I'm not a big small arms expert, but that looks like an M-16.

Did my tax money help buy that?

This is very, very surprising that the photographer was able to get the photos out.

It's no secret that the Palestinian "Authority" quash as much freedom of press as possible, and threaten photographers and reporters to tell what they see as their side of the story.

I give the photographer a month to live, if he's not smart enough to get the hell out of there.

Will Peter Jennings air these picture tonight?

If you want to oppress someone, make damn sure they look just like you do...

#4 Ed Moran

>Did my tax money help to buy that?

He looks a lot older than 42.

7

I was asking that very question.

#4 Ed Moran

Yes, we paid for that.

Just a wee bit OT

The Pal's Main Man thinks Kerry's a Collaborator:

Nader supporters give up Arizona ballot; He accuses Democrats, Kerry of 'dirty tricks'

Nader and Kerry met in May, with the two offering compliments following the session. Whatever truce existed was clearly gone on Friday as Nader campaign spokesman Kevin Zeese warned Democrats about future ballot challenges.

“John Kerry may be making an enemy of Ralph Nader if he doesn’t stop the harassment,” Zeese said. “We’ve been focusing our criticism on Bush rather than Kerry, but Kerry has a pretty lousy record himself.”

They're gonna party like its 999...

BTW

Top two pictures look like a SIG or possibly a Steyr type rifle. The bottom frame definately is a M-16 or one of its derivatives.

#8 Ed:
My first thought when I saw the picture. I wonder what the hell they did to him during his "interrogation."

I guess this is my chance to show I have more respect for human life than the PPP's do by not making a joke out of this.

#13 LOL!

Charles, this is so gross and sad.

OT

Where are the WMD? Still in Iraq.

Deadly Chemical Warheads in Iraq 'From 198Os'

Warheads believed to contain the deadly nerve agent cyclosarin that were found by Polish troops in south-central Iraq date back to Saddam Hussein’s war with Iran in the 1980s, the Polish-led multi-national force said.

Beyond any doubt, the warheads date back to 1980-88 and were used against the Kurds and in the Iraqi-Iranian war,” said the statement from the Polish command in Iraq.

You mean after over 10 years of UN sanctions and inspectors, they were still able to hide them? I'm shocked. I'll just hold my breath as I wait for the DNCs position on this find.

***turning blue***

oh dear,

The Pali's have reinstated the death penalty...

Waiting for Eurotrash condemnation...

Still wating...

I wonder if anyone's going to interview his family to see if there's any truth to his confession.

Not that his family would necessarily tell the truth either.

If they defended him, they run the risk of being branded collaboraters as well.

OT--This is strange!!!:

---
>Mid-East coverage baffles Britons

Israel is highly sensitive to unfavourable coverage in the media
UK television news coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is confusing viewers and favouring the Israeli position, a new report says.
The study, by the Media Group at Scotland's Glasgow University, found Israelis were quoted more than twice as much as Palestinians in reports.

It said that news programmes did not provide enough information about the conflict's history and origins.

Many viewers were also not even sure who was "occupying" whose territory. <
---

full story is at:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
(there is a place at the bottom of the BBC page for readers' comments)

The BBC-- favoring...Israel?

#16 V the K

Amen.

Firing that weapon in the middle of a crowd is a crime in itself, BTW.

18 pbird

Charles, this is so gross and sad.

These are your new neighbors. Zero immigration now.

What a bunch of savages! The last thing these idiots deserve is a country, which by the way has never existed. I find it confusing that this man is also being excuted for abusing his daughters since female sexual abuse is ingrained in the Arab culture and most Arab men view it as their right. The whole thing is sick!

Evidently the family said that the charges (about being a collaborator or sexually abusing his two daughters wasn't specified) were true. The family is not picking up the body from the morgue, a sign of disowning the body.

The only just thing to do now is for some family member to round up the daughters and kill them for disgracing the family. It's Bush's fault.

Abdulla, you hold him, I'll shoot him. No way man, YOU hold him and I'll shoot him.

Why is it that there are ALWAYS droves of men milling about in the streets. I understand that unemployment is very high, since none can be trusted to travel into Israel (the only prosperous area) without trying to kill or maim. Seems to me they would be doing something constructive. Then again, maybe reducing the population is. Sadly enough.

Sarah D.

The reactions here provide the best example of why the mainstraim media ALMOST NEVER shows this sort of Arab savagery. They don't want to confuse the message. Next thing you know Americans will be supporting America.

Reposting from a much earlier thead/

Warning, graphic images contained in the link.

Hooded Palestinian gunmen lift the body of a suspected collaborator in the West Bank city of Hebron, April 23, 2002.

This is not an isolated incident.

Poor old fuck. Must have owed some money to some Fatah bigwig.

'Molested his daughters' - presented as fact, derived from 'interrogation' (instead of torture). What BS.

And days after the PA itself says that L-Aksa's Asshole Brigades are a direct subsidiary of Fatah, they cling to the 'loosely-affiliated' line.

I believe AP is 'loosely affiliated' to the truth.

I hope devils drag them away the day they die, just like the shithead in the movie 'Ghost'.

#15. I agree, under torture anyone can be made to say anything, one of the reasons (despite Abu Graves) that the US doesn't condone it.

A minor hitch in the Gaza handover plan. The Pals simply aren't ready to take charge.

Spying for Israel? I thought Clintoon put an end to that tension.
efc

I don't know anything about this man or about what he may or may not have done. But that third picture just guts me.

To curl up to be murdered, like a kicked dog, shunned by its pack, in broad daylight, with no one there to at least cry out your name to say "We're here, you're not alone!"...

Ach. Whoever he was, whatever he did, I hope his soul knows I am sorry for him and wish him comfort.

I think the second firearm is, ironically enough, an Israeli-made Galil. So it's not just US taxpayer money being spent on monsters here.

I'm sure the UN will quickly issue a denunciation of this extra-judicial killing. Let's listen:

[crickets]

Notice how well fed the Al aksa chieftain is?

Pretty good target for an Israeli shit-seeking missile . . .

The guy with a cap is holding an Israeli Galil rifle.

#27 #33

I was wondering the same thing, why the "molested his daughters" claim was just put out as truth... Not bad enough that he was an Israeli spy, but he was a child molester, too.

Those Jooos do that, you know. And their beards, filled with lice. I have seen it.

Is it 1939 again? Did I miss the meetings?

#22 kristina37:
Charles had a thread about it a few days ago.

It was also at Honest Reporting (BBC Radio Farce).

Fucking bastards.

. In the Primitives' blood-orgy, everyone knows his part. The victim is 'prepared' for two days and nights with beatings and torture. On the appointed day he knows what to expect. His family has been informed and warned not to claim his remains. The accusations of sexual abuse are routinely added as a fillip for the infidels. The unfortunate is dragged before the howling mob. Everyone knows his part.
"What shall his sentence be? " demand the executioners.
" Kill him !" cries the mob. " Kill, kill, kill, kill ..."
The miserable victim is dispatched in a volley of gunfire. Then the mob moves in and the abuse of the body begins. Each one knows that he could be the victim himself next time, but for now each is safe among the swarm. Primitives.

grayp,
It is your words (heart and soul) that separate us from them.

# 33 M M

"And days after the PA itself says that L-Aksa's Asshole Brigades are a direct subsidiary of Fatah, they cling to the **'loosely-affiliated'** line."

That phrase in the caption made me angrier than the pics -- and I didn't think that was possible ...
:-(

37 grayp

But that third picture just guts me.

Yes. This is so rare to actually see commonplace Pal society actually going about its business. Clearly, the mask has slipped for a moment and we are permitted to see the Pal lifestyle that the Israelis have the unfortunate honor to live with day after day after day. This is the mentality that they built the security fence to protect against. How'd you like to live in this town?? We need these pix shown in the mainstream media so the American people can understand what the war is about, and who are friends are, and who they aren't. Thomas Friedman, Where are you??

#42 cba: Thanks for info. (Been busy with other things, I haven't been online much lately).

third world birth control

"Of course we deplore the extra-judicial executions carried out by the Palestinians, just as we deplore the unlawful murders of Hamas leaders by Israeli forces. But your coded racism is not heeelllpffu-u-u-l-l..."

[pulls string again]

"How can the Palestinians build a functioning judiciary system when the entire society is denied justice by Israel? In a very real sense, the responsibility for this man's death lies wiiittthhh tthhheee j...''

WTF... I didn't know the Israelis gave the pali's Galil's when they armed them. What a travesty.

The war wagon is packed and I am heading for Helm's Deep ( my farm in the Greenbriar Valley) for the next five days. Have a wonderful Fourth and watch your top knot.

#29 Eddie P
That's probably not far off the mark, as evidenced by this exchange in Iraq.

"Where's the machinegun?"

"I don't know! You had it yesterday!"

"No, you had it!"

"No, no, it's there with Ali."

"Where's Ali?"

"He went home."

"So where is the machinegun?"

"With Ali."

Street-fighting men and boys

#49:

It'd be funnier if it weren't true...

BWAHAHAHA!!!

Even al Jazeera isn't stopping this comment on the old toad: :

Look at the banner at the top:

[Link: www.aljazeera.com...]

an add for swiss bank accounts!

time for a quick one

I agree with Luigi #47--I'm angry about what's shown here, but not angry at the media for showing it (in this case). Would that we could have photo spreads on the front page of every major newspaper 3-4 times per week, just to hammer home how deeply dysfunctional the Palestinian political culture truly is.

BTW-
"Third world birth control" (#11) is just a stupid comment, and trivializes what's going on here.

#47 Luigi

Thomas Friedman, Where are you??

Don't get me started. Friedman went south the nanosecond he sucked Prince Abdullah's dick when Abdullah asked "Have you been peeking into my desk drawer?"

Friedman should have the honesty to admit that he's got his nose up Abdullahs's robe just because Abdullah had the political sense to stroke an American Jew in public.

Friedman has become a tool for no more good reason than his own vanity - a vanity that would stand him in poor stead would he find himself encircled and alone by a bunch sociopathic thugs who get just as much pleasure out of seeing someone die alone and bereft as they do out of the actual killing.

*spit*

Sorry, but you all seem to care about this guy, like he is one of the good guys?

Are you assuming that he did collaborate? Well he probably did not. Better chance is that he is just another waste of space palestinian, who was 'ratted out' by someone who didn't like him. His family will probably be targeted to become new walking time bombs.

Sure he looks pathetic right now, but a month ago he was probably chanting anti jew slogans with the rest of them.

You cannot save these piles of manure, unless they are willing to save themselves. It is the leadership, it is Arafat that needs to be swept away. Until the Palestinians are ready to do that, they are the walking dead. I don't pity them, and I don't mourn them. They have a way out, and choose not to take it.

If this man has daughters, they are now going to be raped for his 'crimes'.

If you look closely, you can tell in the gun in the 3rd picture was the gun that the head thug was holding in the first picture. He carried this hit out personally.

#14 Kragar

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the weapon in the 1st and 2nd photos is an Israeli Galil. It's a derivitive of the Kalashnikov.

Weapon in third photo is definitely an M-16.

If I had to guess, I would say that both are stolen from the Israelis.

I gripe about my country and its justice system all the time.

But as we close in on July 4, I must say this hideous display makes me grateful beyond words that I'm an American.

God Bless the USA

If only the world realised the real torture that happens in the world, as I'm sure happened to this man for him to "confess", instead of judging America or Israel so harshly. Of course this is not "news" worthy for western media.

59:

or sold to them by Israeli's on the black market.

JD,
I'm just stunned. Thanks for the link. I won't even ask why the press here didn't pick that up.

#45 Bob with one o
grayp,
It is your words (heart and soul) that separate us from them.

I'll second that.

And we let these paedophile psychopaths into our countries...

Buck,

That man may have been Sadam's evil twin brother Sparky but what was done was still wrong and further illustrates the utter abys those people live in.

MEMRI TV: MEMRI now has a video site.

The Palestinian-Israeli conflict has been grinding on for decades, but was somehow contained, at least in recent years within the borders of the Occupied Territory (unless Israel wishes otherwise).

This is from al jazedera--from Hhars's link

#24 Poitiers-Lepanto: Not in the middle of that crowd, it isn't.

#57 Buck:

Are you assuming that he did collaborate? Well he probably did not.

Or maybe he did, and maybe he even "collaborated" out of a sense of conscience. We have no way of knowing. All we know is that he did something to piss off the Al Aqsa Murderer's Brigade, which in my book is prima facie evidence that he was doing something right. So I see no reason not to feel anger over what's in these photos.

What do these pictures remind me of?

The execution of another prisoner, in another time...

Funny, back in the '60s that image outraged Americans.

Where is the outrage now in 2004?

If the pals act like savages, the media simply excuses their "behavior" due to the stress of Israeli occupation.

What a piece of work is man!
How noble in reason.
How infinite in faculties.
In form and moving, how express and admirable.
In action how like an angel.
In apprehension, how like a god.
The beauty of the world.
The paragon of animals.

/sarcasm

#54

U r too good!

#27

Ever occur to you that the family was told not to pick up the body? Or maybe they were asked nicely, pretty please with sugar on top.

#44 Tumulus

The scenes like these always remind me, for some reason, of The Lord of Flies.

It appears that noone wants the Paleos, so why don't we call them by what they are . . .

REJECTS!

MERs = Middle East Rejects

#57 Buck

Sorry, but you all seem to care about this guy, like he is one of the good guys?

Buck, there is a fundamental issue of universal humanity, not just this man's, who may or may not have betrayed it, but of my own.

There are people who I know for a fact have betrayed what has been given to them, and for them I have no pity, I can only pray for grace (and I'm not a terribly religious person).

To see what this man was subjected to and not mourn for what was not there is a good thing and reflects badly on no one.

my #78

not mourn for what was not there is a good thing and reflects badly on no one.

should read

mourn for what was not there is a good thing and reflects badly on no one.

He probably owed money to some terrorist and couldn't pay.

Enough of this "loosely affiliated" shit. It is common knowlege that they are directly affilated and funded by that cock, Arafat.

Arafat - U mean that Egyptian paleo?

John5z,
I don't care if the family were told, asked or decided not to pick up the body or wear it as a hat. I just thought I would share what the article I read said about the family.

...more Martyrs are ready to defend the honour of Palestine and fight for the freedom of surely the most gentle , generous and peaceful people on earth.

Rachel Corrie

#83 Cadpig:

Thanks - just wanted to know if AP or Reuters had hooked a big one and were reeling it in.

Sorry.

Newsday writer says: negotiation with terrorists is dangerous:

[Link: www.newsday.com...]

These people are the consummate noble savages, except they're not noble.

#57 Buck

Right on the money.

Get past the shock.

I can't believe that picture with the little girls in the background. What kind of monster do you have to be let your kids observe something that awful?

As it becomes increasingly hard for the paleofreaks to kill israelis, they will increasingly cannibalize and kill each other

Fireworks offer Americans chance to 'blow up' terrorists

89 David Simon

I can't believe that picture with the little girls in the background. What kind of monster do you have to be let your kids observe something that awful?

You have to be someone who does monstrous things to children

What is rather amazing is that the gunmen are not masked. In all other photos (taken in 2002) the gunmen are masked. Strange. Whoever took the photos may be joining the deceased soon.

The great great problem of the great great islam Phallus.

" One Day At The great Macho Islam Orgy": "shoot or fuck them anyway and everywhere yourself".
[violence = sex, in the islam alfabet].

Look at this very funny 'turning and twisting' the question[s] about mr. MO himself.

[Link: www.islamonline.net...]
and
[Link: www.islamonline.net...]

further reading[s] at:
[Link: users.rcn.com...]

law of Moses

So...where's our resident proponent of Gazans right of return to Israel. Why isn't he defending these monsters right of return? The man who was murdered, isn't he a Gazan too?
Hey Gordon, here's your oppertunity to stand up and let everyone know how much you love these collaborator murdering people, and they have RIGHTS too.

Feh

To peace be upon me -- truly weird from Newsday--an LLL rag of the NYT(worst) sort. -- but a great piece of writing-- here is the link again from Newsday

PDM
Hilarious as usual!

:p

If the Palestinians keep this up, this would end the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict.

Maybe we should send them more weapons. They are of course their own worst enemy. They should just gather in the square and start shooting and bombing. The last one standing wins. We all win.

Hooora!

He's been a collaborator. Sure, ever since the Boer War. And he molested his daughters. Probably taught them how to read. Let this be a lesson to all you Paleos: don't try getting any human ideas into your little heads.

Rich, self-loathing, Rachel Corrie clone, Alice Coy, does ISM's dirty work for Pale-Terror:

[Link: www.albawabaforums.com...]

Uggh! Skanktime!

Killed with an an M-16 given to the savages by us and a FN looking rifle ala our euro friends. Maybe the Israeli knock off of the AK.

Savages the lot. The need a cholera outbreak or some plague to thin their ranks.

.Arafart was supposed to not allow attack on Jew as part of Oslo. His forces were armed to do this. Israel is forced to use people who tell about attacks. Arafart should be told that he does not control attack and prevent Israel from knowing who is going attack them he will be personally responsible for all violence. He should be meeting his friend Sadman very soon.

I don't suppose we'll long media harangues about "prisoner abuse" here, will we?

pbum

That Alice Coy "chick" is one scary skank.

This guy, innocent of hating Jews and Americans or not, is just as much a victim of terrorists as anyone.

There's no reason to be anything but disgusted by the Al Aq's execution of this guy. There is simply zero reason to be either (a) happy about; or (b) apathetic to this man's fate.

The more that Al- Aqsa, Hamas, IJ, and the other terrorists have to resort to killing their own to feed their bloodlust, the less support they'll get from the "average Pali," Jew-hater or not.

It's sad that this guy was killed by terrorists, the same way its sad when anyone else is. Maybe something good will come from it, though---another "informer/collaborator" or three.

It's obvious that the executed man was a Jewish collaborator and not a Pali.

When an ARAB molests his daughter, they shoot HER.

What you are looking at, ladies and gentlemen, is the side effect of the wall--the more frustrated they get at not being able to kill the Jews, the more pictures like that you will be able to see in the future. Which is not the bad thing, really...

#106 hobgoblin:

Amen!!

O/T:

Folks, if you have time between Spiderman and barbecue and fireworks, go see the movie about why America is a wonderful place. Think of it as the anti-Michael Moore documentary that actually deserves your hard-earned money.

So are France and Germany gonan oppose this guys execution or not? He cant be that much worse than Saddam.

Well, I don't think I have to worry about seeing this in the AJC (Atlanta Journal/Constitution, AKA Atlanta Journal and Communists) Europe would be screaming if the Isreali's did the same thing. Just look at the hachet job that the american press did on the military prisons. The more I get around on the web, the less respect I have for US media. They keep claiming they are unbiased but stuff like this will never be shown. I am starting to get pissed off about it, as most on this site are. Even Fox won't show stuff like this. Fox talks a good game with its editorials, but they get all their stories off the wire, which is controlled by the left. If Fox meant business they would start looking for unbiased or at least independant sources of information. Thank god for the internet. May god have mercy on the poor bastards soul.

The alwadaba link has a photo of ISM terrorist symp/enabler Hurndal with a bullet hole in his noggin.

The creep thought his little orange vest marking him as a white person would render him bullet proof as he stood between murderers and soldiers.

Big mistake Tom. Buh bye.

How much longer before the whole world is engulfed in hatred of this caliber? Anarchist sentiments are gaining the predominance in many western countries too...

Where are the 21 Human Rights lawyers to demand a fair trial for this man? Is he not innocent until proven guilty in court?

Remember the photo from April (?) 1968, of the South Vietnamese colonel executing the Viet Cong in the street in Saigon? The MMM claimed that this showed "the horrors of the Vietnam War", while totally dropping the context that the Viet Cong had murdered the entire family of the Colonel's best friend.

Will the photo above get anywhere near the same attention as this one? {he asked rhetorically}

MMM, I spit on you, I spit in your mother's milk, I spit on your parents and grandparents graves.