Six armed men attack a woman and a baby?

Sounds like ROP bravery, all right.

Disgusting.

I want to be surprised, but I just can't be anymore.

-dg

#1 Belize

Six armed men attack a woman and a baby?

Well, can't be too careful, y'know. Women with babies are known to very protective of them.

Bastards.

They should have women's underwear placed on their heads when they're caught.

FIRST REPORT:

Explosion on bus in Tel Aviv near Old Central bus station.

One passenger in critical condition, 14 others wounded, according to Israel Army Radio. It is unclear as of this posting how make people were on the bus.

Ambulances are at the scene; there is no word on the background to the explosion.

The blast took place on 23 Har Tzion Street.

Dave Bender
[Link: www.AccessMiddleEast.org...]

What is the deal with the upper case "YOUNG"? She was 23 which is certainly old enough to be a mother.

The men of North African origin also overturned the pram holding her baby, aged 13 months.

One of these days, this kind of crap is going to fly back in their faces, and whole Muslim neighborhoods are going to go up in flames when the angry mobs go ballistic.

i'd like to cut de villepin's pompadour and paint swastikas on his disgusting abdomen. then kick his teeth in.

OT: America meets Paris

Last year I was taking the train home from Frankfurt when I ran into a Marine taking the same train (we made eye contact and greeted each other in English---- germans never do that). He was on convalecent leave from receiving wounds in Iraq and was visiting his german girlfriend. He told me he has been to Paris in 2001 with a couple of buddies (6) and were attacked by 12 North Africans. They laid them all out, but one of their friends received a stab wound. They walked a few blocks and reported the incident to the police....who promptly arrested them.

They were told never to return to France. Their buddy with the stab wound survived. The marine told me the guy he laid into will probably never walk again ;).

#8 dhimmi smits

i'd like to cut de villepin's pompadour and paint swastikas on his disgusting abdomen. then kick his teeth in.

Yeah, don't waste your time tryin' to find his balls to kick.

And somewhere some fuckwit will say with a straight face that it was an honest mistake you know because of the wall and all that. There are some people you just can't reason with.

Police said the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish because she was living in Paris’ posh 16th district.

Eh, they can always build a wall, can't they?

#6, Engineer:

What is the deal with the upper case "YOUNG"?

Industry standard to capitalize the first word or (when the first word is one letter) two of a story.

Nothing to see here. Move along. :)

-dg

It appears she was attacked by a group of frustrated, wannabee, nude blindfolded circus performers. Too bad that France feels so good about itself that it fails to see the potential benifits of establishing such a circus, it would rather entertain it's citizens with animal acts and sticking it's head in the lions mouth.

#7 mickthemick

One of these days, this kind of crap is going to fly back in their faces, and whole Muslim neighborhoods are going to go up in flames when the angry mobs go ballistic.

That happens with depressing frequency in India. Surf around, and you can find gruesome photos of incinerated Indian Muslim families, burned to death in revenge for the doings of the Jammu/Kashmir terrorists.

What a shit-shower this century has been so far...

Sheesh, the police will *never* find the perps. OTOH, since the police seem to be somewhat inspector Clousseau-ish, maybe they wouldn't notice if the young Islamic gang bangers started disappearing from the streets, 1 and 2 at a time, never to be heard from again.

Yep, probably left the country to go on jihad.

I feel ill after reading that...

So how long is it before we start seeing the mass migration of French-Jews to Israel? The last time around, those who saw the storm left early...most didn't were killed. You look this time...plenty are already planning their escape routes.

If I was abit more parnoid...I might say that they are trying to round Jews up into one place again...Israel.

Abit more on the bombing in Isreal:

A explosion was heard at around 7 A.M. Sunday on Tel Aviv's Har Zion Street, close to the central bus station.
Army Radio reported that one person was critically hurt in the blast, and around a dozen were moderately or lightly injured.

The radio also reported that the blast occurred at a bus stop adjacent to a vehicle carrying morning commuters.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Of course, that would only happen if some of the French could scrape up a 'nad or two between 'em.

OT - This is an incredibly insightful article on the "real" John Kerry, written back in March of this year. An absolute must read: What the Dems -and especially John Kerry- don't want you to know.

Police said the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish

That's why the Phrench are pissed.

If she had been Jewish, on the other hand....

Um, that non-Jewish mother with the baby.....was she French or Australian (as it was reported in an Australian newspaper?)

A little re-editing to bring out the truth:

The attack was all the more serious because ... the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish.

#10 Swamp Woman:

Yeah, don't waste your time tryin' to find his balls to kick.

Huh? Dominique is a man?

No sh**.

4,

Bastards.

They should have women's underwear placed on their heads when they're caught.

Pigskin would be better.

#15 Sanity Inspector

That happens with depressing frequency in India.

Yes, the problem has been accute in Gujarat province. Hindu-Muslim violence has been flaring up in Bangladesh, too.
#9 Buckeye Abroad

The marine told me the guy he laid into will probably never walk again

Nice to see our boys still fighting fascism on the continent. Glad the stab victim is OK.

TEL AVIV BUS BLAST UPDATE:

Explosion on passenger bus in Tel Aviv near Old Central bus station.

One passenger reported in critical condition, with some 14 others wounded to various degrees, according to eyewittness speaking to Israel Army Radio. It is unclear as of this posting how make people were on the bus.

"I heard the boom and saw a female soldier flying through the air," eyewitness Shlomi Ben Abu told the interviewer.

"There was a commotion after about two minutes and ambulances arrived some 15 minutes later," Ben Abu said.

Police say there was no alert for such an attack. No group has taken responsibility for the blast.

Numerous ambulances and fire department rescue crews are at the scene, casualties have been collected to area hospitals; there is no word on the background to the explosion.

Many of the wounded are suffereing from flying glass wounds, according to a reporter at one hospital emergency room.

A police spokesman said the bomb was not large in comparison to previous similiar events.

The blast took place adjacent to a bus stop on 23 Har Tzion Street in the vicinity of the city's old bus station. The generally run-down area is a center for foreign workers and day laborers.

Dave Bender
[Link: www.AccessMiddleEast......]

#15

Oddly, burning terrorists and their supporters doesn't depress me in the least.

"A YOUNG woman and her baby have been attacked in a suburban train near Paris." Nobody in the train has the guts to help them? How French! No guts.

Do not mention Comment #17...I'm already clensing myself. heh.

#26 Dave,

So I wonder...are these bottom feeders attacking foreign workers like they they have been in Saudi Arabia now? Trying to duplicate their work. Wouldn't surprise me in the least...I suppose we'll have to see.

I'd like to hear some more on the original thread tho...but I expect that the 'french' will never find anything.

typical ignorant islogic--the seizieme is a "jewish" neighborhood like the upper east side is a jewish neighborhood--to these ignorant filthy beurs any upper class neighborhood in paris is a jewish neighborhood--the french should hunt up a thousand medival catapaults and send these subhumans flying back to the mahgreb toute suite

Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin [...who is a man... —ed.] “firmly condemned” the attack and asked police to track down the attackers within the shortest possible time.

Right, because unless a politician "firmly condemns" a crime, the police are going to sit on their hands instead of investigating.

Politicians are silly in general, but French politicians reach stunning heights of silliness.

Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin [...who is a man... —ed.]

Well, at least a male at birth.

#28 ic

er, that would be assuming there were some men on the train.

Can we kill them now?

Remove the private parts and stake them to an anthill, pour honey over them and leave them to croak.

(with apologies to Paul Bowles ;-)

The men of North African origin ...

They're Muslims. It is really so difficult to say so? G-d, what has become of France. I wish the Jews would just get out of there already.

#25 mick

Muslims only attack when they think they have you outnumbered. As I have been told numerous times in the EU, Americans are known for their rush to violence. I remind them this is because of our upbringing of right and wrong (like attacking young mothers and their infants on public transport) and how we hold others upto our own moral principles.

Police said the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish because she was living in Paris’ posh 16th district.

This is what is really going to upset the French. They'll be frightened that they might be mistaken for Jews by the Muslims.

The practical French solution would be to force the Jews to wear yellow stars.

Salope Marianne, putain de merde!

#34 zulubaby

The men of North African origin ...

They're Muslims. It is really so difficult to say so? G-d, what has become of France. I wish the Jews would just get out of there already.

*gasp* What? How can you say such a thing...the indignity of it all! The thought of profiling them is...is...is...intolerable! They are not Muslims...they are North African...we can't profile them like that...you have no proof! /moonbat logic

Nevermind the stupidity of these idjits or anything. I agree with you 100%, this is only going to get worse...and they turn their backs again and again. I guess we shouldn't be surprised should we, one of the few countries that openly colaberated with the Nazi's openly ignores what's going on now. I wonder how long before France requires Jews to be 'marked' in public so people can avoid them...for their 'own' safety ofcourse.

i read on another site that there were dozens of passengers on the train--no one offered assistence--there are no french words for "lets roll"--but there is for nouveau baghdad--fucking parislamabad

#9 Buckeye

What a great story!! I'm passing it along to friends and family.

Anecdotes like that reassure me--when the merde hits the fan, we're going to crush these bastards.

Which reminds me: my cousin in Georgia has offered to take me out shooting next time I visit them. But I've looked into shooting ranges here in NYC and they're all "members only," as far as I can tell. Anyone know what the deal is with that?

I always hated the sound of gunshots when I was on the swimming team. But I don't like the idea of feeling helpless when the Thing Goes Down.

I'm sure these poor of-arab-origin youths were somehow humiliated by the woman before they attacked.

Maybe she actually had a short-sleeve shirt on or something. Or maybe she breathed in some of their air. Or her baby looked down its nose at them.

#38 Hulugu

I sure hope you're wrong about the "dozens of passengers" that sat idly by. And here I thought that my contempt for the French could not possibly get any greater.....

#40 Valerie

Don't forget the Death-Dealing Female Hair Rays!

"Throw a shroud over that slut immediately!"

/muzz nazi

HULUGU

no one offered assistence

Are these people normal!? How do you not jump in to help a woman and her baby? The French deserve whatever is coming to them.

the french slang word for these flowers of north africa is beur--kind of like the "n" word here--also euphemistically call them "les jeunes"--the young ones--kinda like "urban youth"--only there its surburban youth--the french pomo homos all living behind moats in the splendid villes you know

Mashiki, the Jews have already been told to wear baseball caps (or whatever) instead of their kippot. It's over, the sooner they realize that and get out of there, the better.

A woman and a baby?

I sit here speechless, in awe of the brave, brave Jihadis.

::puke::

These incidents are worth forwarding to our Democratic or Undecided friends, those whose minds aren't totally closed. The story will stick in their mind and leave an indelible impression long after statistics and reasoned arguments have dribbled out of their left ear. Seriously, folks. And you can't argue with an anecdote.

By their fruits shall we know them. Evil fruits.

one of the problems is that the assimulated french jews are so wimpy--they need some schtarke jdl vigilante types to administer street justice to these islamothugs but i wouldn't hold my breath--in france its not nice to defend yourself--having lived there i only know that when you speak up to the frogs they back down right away--their afraid of the cowboy americans--watching them backaway is so fulfilling

I hope that all the Jews of the nazi islamic republic of france take teh hint and make Alyah to Israel. There is room for them where the arabs are shortly to vacate.

zulubaby,

Are these people normal!?

They've been rendered placid (flaccid?) sheep by the omnipresent Nanny State. Which is why "firmly condemned" is the best Dominique de Villepin (who is a man) can muster.

::puke::

Spiny Norman, they are pathetic, useless. Where are the men!?

#51 Zulubaby:

Where are the men!?

With names like Dominique, what good would it do to have French men around?

#51, zulubaby. Oh, the men? They are still there, the Frenchmen, in name only, as always. Did you think they were real? You know better.

... the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish because she was living in Paris’ posh 16th district.

We can only hope that the French government doesn't adopt this point of view - French looting of Jewish property:

In the trendy Marais district, along the Seine River opposite the Ile St. Louis, the city of Paris owns a large tract with more than 400 buildings.
Many of the flats are let to politically connected tenants -- including relatives of Chirac and Paris Mayor Jean Tiberi -- at subsidized rents, according to ``Private Domain,'' a book by journalist Brigitte Vital-Durand.
The city took the property in 1942, when it gave 20,000 residents -- 90 percent of them Jews -- a day to move.

Note that it was the city of Paris that ran them out (and most never returned) - not the Nazis or the Vichy collaborationist government. Now Chirac's mistress has 400 different houses to choose from.

And that's only the tip of the iceberg, of course:

The post-war French government kept billions of francs in property and cash the Vichy government had confiscated from Jews after the German occupation began in May 1940, according to records compiled by Jewish groups. The Chirac government has insisted the records remain secret.

Wimps. That they allowed this to happen. They should be embarrassed but they don't know from shame. Too busy being arrogant -- about what, I don't know.

Savages.

Baldy

Savages.

The French or the gentlemen of "North African origin"?

Police today said it was an anti-Semitic assault.

Gee, ya think?

7

Maybe whole mobs would go after the Muslims, except 1) The French, in general, are cowards
2) This woman was Australian, and mistaken for a Jew/

Of course, all of this will be straightened out when the French government convenes their big conference on anti-Semitism in September.

Even my sarcasm sounds pathetically hollow ...

#57 zulubaby - Both IMO. One just smells better...

The sooner France dies the better. Violent, bloody, public.

As a 1966 student commencement speaker at Yale, where he was chairman of the Political Union, Kerry "urged the United States to withdraw from Vietnam and to scale down foreign military operations," according to an admiring 1970 profile in the Harvard Crimson. The same report indicates that Kerry volunteered to fight in a war he opposed only after "he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris" and was refused.

Wow!

Savages. No, that is an insult to most primitive cultures I have read about. The sooner all French Jews leave, the better. When the Jews are gone, the Muslims will turn on the rest. The French will have the choice of conversion, submission, or resistance. Judging from history, most will submit.

I think I better get a pistol permit. If some Muslims try this where I work, I want it to be the last thing they ever do. At least, in this world.

54 Glen Wishard
And the sheer chutzpa of so-called Palestinians wanting to "return" to their homes in Israel. Jewish refugees and victims of European and Middle Eastern persecution have an awful lot of real property to claim.

The sooner all French Jews leave, the better. When the Jews are gone, the Muslims will turn on the rest. The French will have the choice of conversion, submission, or resistance. Judging from history, most will submit.

Before they entirely submit, the neo-Fascists will have their say. The French are probably the most zenophobic society in all of Europe, and once the "North Africans" start to routinely attack native French women and girls, like they are in Australia, it'll get really ugly.

Dominique de Villepin is a man??? Prove it!

What's really sad is that stuff like this no longer shocks me. This story will not appear in the mainstream press because A. No one will give a damn and B. Fear of offending those peace-loving, good-hearted Muslims.

What a bunch of cowards and assholes. I refer both to the French and to those Muslim fuckheads who go around so bravely terrorizing women and children.

This is their m.o. Remember the fuckheads who shot and killed the pregnant woman and her children in their car in Israel? The mainstream press ignored that story, too. BUt heaven forbid the IDF should kill one of these assholes, the whole world is on their case.

What a sad, sorry world indeed. I have no hope for the future.

What confused me is the French public desire to arrest racists, and apparent non-action.

Its not rocket science.

Dress a police officer up as a Jew, walk around, arrest anyone who tries to attack him or abuse him.

In America officers do it all the time to catch muggers, car theves, rapists, etc.

What stops the Paris police from doing this. Its hardly Mission Imposible stuff.

Is it a lack of will, imagination or desire?

The Moslems seem to act with impunity. These attacks generally don't happen in Germany and Britain. What is it about France that encourages it.

The French are superb speach makers, and great at protesting their innocence or outrage, but what are they doing about this.

Since we are talking about French people and their political ideologies, ethics and morals, I would recommend that we all keep an eye tuned to the province of Quebec in Canada where this Province handles its own immigration policies and bypasses that set up by Canada and the U.S.

Quebec's main crtteria for entry is that you speak French. Little else is important.

This province is jam packed with undesireables and unmentionables who can move anywhere they want in Canada virtually unchecked. Whether of not they can pass through the U.S. border or not I do not know.....but the entry door to North America is wide open thanks to French people.

Yes, I am an ex Montrealer now living in Toronto and I have seen first hand the discrimination practised by the Quebec Government. There is less than 1/2 of a % non French people in the Civil/Public (?) service in Quebec . The population of the Province has 30% non French people living in it!

The French are very good at subtle discrimination and snubs.

May they get what they deserve! Merde!

#69 BritishPickle

Dress a police officer up as a Jew, walk around, arrest anyone who tries to attack him or abuse him.

But that would be entrapment. Surely you can't expect the [bigoted word]s to resist such temptation. It's a cultural thing that you can't possibly understand. The existence of Jews is against their religion, and what not. We wouldn't want to offend their fragile sensibilities by enforcing laws that they break.

It it true that you Brits are have trouble parking your cars? This is a great solution.

Not to get off the subject but, has anybody found out more on the Foxnews "expose"??? This really pisses me off. The lefties just cannot get it can they? This was the latest I can find.

Drudgereport

and this:

Moveon etc blather

Tom Brockaw, Peter Jennings and Dan Rather all condemed this incident on last night's news report too.

#12 The Sanity Inspector

Eh, they can always build a wall, can't they?

Well if ChIraq had his way it would most probably resemble the one that was built in Warsaw!

#34 Zulubaby

G-d, what has become of France.

If you have forgotten read this Silent Running post to find out the French perfidy has never changed.

Down here "French kiss" means something different.

Over the weeks, months and years that followed what was revealed was the grossest act of international terrorism carried out by one western democracy against another.

Read the whole thing. Most probably there are some who never heard about that incident.

Vermont Anti-Americanism Watch

From the Vermont Soviet Socialist Republic --- the state that gave us Howard Dean, Patrick Leahy, Bernie Sanders, and Ben and Jerry.

In Vermont's Capital City, the American Flag is flying high. The city adorns buildings and parking meters with old glory around holidays.

But almost as quickly as they go up, the stars and stripes are being stolen and burned in a series of flag desecrations and thefts. The first incident happened at the statehouse about three weeks ago. Someone ripped up two American flags and wrapped them around a statue of Ethan Allen. Then last week, someone draped the flag around a statue of the Virgin Mary and set it on fire.

Maybe whole mobs would go after the Muslims, except 1) The French, in general, are cowards
2) This woman was Australian, and mistaken for a Jew/

Well, that ain't gonna play well in Australia.

Well, this is the reason you're always hearing for Muslim immigration, right? They're just doing the jobs the French won't do anymore.

I wonder if anyone would have condemned the incident had she been Israeli.

The business of euphamisms is incredibly irritating ie: the "young men of North African origins" attacking Jews, the war on "terror" and not Islamojihadism. If we can't/won't identify the enemy-what hope is there to defeat their evil.

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From what I read- fighting crime isn't exactly a top priority in Chirac's France.

These types of crimes will increase.

To Jews and Americans - 1939 is coming - again.

An important detail which wasn't mentionned:

The agression occurred during the afternoon, at a time where the train was full of passengers.
None of them reacted.

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"We asked for witnesses to come and testify," the source sid, "but no one has done so yet." In the case of aggressions, witnesses do not dare testify because they fear the culprits would retaliate. In several recent occurrences not linked to anti-Semitic attacks, indicted youths (RoP Scum) threatened witnesses inside courthouses. The witnesses then refused to testify. Even judges are often threatened in court.

Boy, the men are "weak as water, weak as water"
Non-Jewish Paris woman suffers anti-Semitic attack

Jack- I'm glad I live in the US, where threats against judges are taken seriously. IF the "authorities" are afraid, they are doomed - and it's their own fault. These attacks will only increase. Damn the French. They attacked a woman and her BABY.

Bastards.

They should have women's underwear placed on their heads when they're caught.

Pigskin would be better.

How about underwear soaked in pig urine?

#77 Swampwoman

ooooo that wasn't smart of them. Australians are actually men. Even the women kick ass.

-ron

#87 ballantrae

Yep, that's what I'm talkin' 'bout. I've met a few Ozzies visitin' here. They don't take any crap. I like 'em.

Course, I guess just because the ones visitin' here were the outspoken, bar-fighting variety, I guess that doesn't mean all the OTHERS can't be peace-activists.

Some stories make me want to start drinking--heavily and immediately and then dick punch whoever pisses me off. Yeh, I know, not healthy or legal.

Don't hold your breath waiting for the French government to do anything about anti-semitism. The thugs committing these acts are acting as proxies for the French. The government will issue occasional hollow "condemnations" of the violence., but these are just a smokescreen. So you'll almost never hear about an arrest, and one the rare occasion when you do, it won't be prosecuted.

#30 HULUGU

the french should hunt up a thousand medival catapaults

Or better yet, bring the guillotines out of storage.

Swastikas... men of north African origin... nazi symbol... immigrants from N Africa...

HOW THE HELL DID THE WORLD COME TO THIS?

What I still can't get over is that people watched a woman and her baby being attacked and did nothing to help her.

#94 Zulubaby

I can't believe it either. My husband said somethin' like that would only happen over his dead body (and he knew I'd already be in the middle of it).

#94 zulubaby - you mean there were witnesesses? People who were there and did NOTHTING at all?
Excuse me, I gotto go puke.
Iron Fist and Paladin (where the hell you been, Paladin?) as you can see there's lots of work to be done out there; unitl my right side (ribs) is healed, I'd appreciate your help.
People like these do not deserve the tender mercies of a court - even a French court.

BTW - TO IRON FIST, PALADIN AND A FEW OTHERS OUT THERE (AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) I'M NOT KIDDING AROUND HERE.

France being France, the woman is lucky she wasn't charged with, um incitement or something and thrown in the slammer.

SwampWoman, I have no doubt about that. The French make me sick.

realwest, it is sickening, isn't it? I don't care what the circumstances, I can't imagine watching a woman and her baby being attacked and doing nothing.

On BookTV this morning, an interview was run with publisher Peter Collier about Encounter Book's fall list. One item that looks very interesting is Vile France due out in October.

In this bitingly funny and insightful polemic, Boyles, who has lived and worked in France for several years, examines the internal crises—a falling birthrate, an expanding Muslim minority, economic stagnation, a lessening of international prestige—that have changed the personality of what was once “La Belle France,” transforming it into a nation afflicted with status anxiety.

#100 zulubaby - you can't imagine it because you are a truly civilized person.
What do you want to bet that the "witnesses" will not be forthcoming at any trial (Heaven forfend the French actually capture the culprits)?

97

...speaking for myself (ex-merchant marine, currently oilfield trash)...

....present!

Okay, I couldn't believe it when I saw this headline: Gang Attacks Mother on French Train

Gang!?

PARIS - A gang of young men attacked a woman riding a suburban train with her infant, cutting her hair and drawing swastikas on her stomach. Other passengers watched but did nothing, police reported.

But strangely enough, it's the only report I've seen that actually states that this "gang" were Muslims:

Police described the gang as ages 15 to 20 and said some appeared to be of Muslim North African origin.

What a sick, sad story is. It's an atrocity because non-Jews were attacked. The attackers "correctly" branded the perceived Jews as Nazis though, which should protect them from prosecution. The others on the train promptly collaborated. And of course the attackers' identities as Muslims were airbrushed away.

Why have you forsaken us, bigel?

#39 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb): If you're skittish about practicing with a handgun, see if the range will let you use a rifle. For some, they do a good job of bridging the gap.

I just can't wait for the backlash against the Jews for forcing the Muslims to attack the "real" French. If only they could be loaded up onto trains to somewhere, anywhere, wouldn't everyone be safer?

I'm so happy for the Jews I know that have gotten out of that hell-hole with the beautiful exterior, and still think there's many good reason for the US to offer asylum to French Jews.

Where is Caton these days?
Is he safely out of France?

Gallic politicos insinuating Palestinian suffering as justification in 3...2...1...

ftm, yes, he's in Israel.

Now if we can just persuade Mr Pol to get out of there ...

Parody of John Cougar Mellencamp (not that funny):

Some allies ain't no damn good
You can't trust 'em
You can't love em
No good deed goes unpunished
And we don't mind being their whipping boy
We've had that pleasure
For years and years
No, no I never was a snail-eater
Tell me whose Frog can I do
Second, or fiftieth best is what you get
'Til you learn to bend the UN rules
Paris respects no person
And when you lift up pure gall
They're waiting outside
To claim my crumblin' Gauls

When the Gauls
Come tumblin' down
When the Gauls
Come crumblin', crumblin'
When the Gauls
Come tumblin', tumblin' Down
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

#92 Alouette

Or better yet, bring the guillotines out of storage.

Excellent idea. Great idea for reality TV...I will have the knitting franchise.

The stupid citizens of fwance think that this will all pass, while they look down their haughty, john f kerry-like noses. One day in the not too distant future they will awaken to a country where the official language will be arabic, and the call to prayer jihad coming from all the mosques...

Haute couture under a burka?

When I lived in France in the 90's, I was shocked to find the most well educated, well travelled, upper class people say the most outrageous anti-semitic things right in front of me. (To be honest, they were completely racist about the beurs as well.)

Today, nothing surprises me about France.

NY Nana (#112)

One day in the not too distant future they will awaken to a country where the official language will be arabic, and the call to prayer jihad coming from all the mosques...

It couldn't happen to a nicer place.

#97 realwest,

I know you aren't. Had I been there, I wouldn't have remained passive, I assure you.

Where's Bernie Goetz when you need him ??

One skinny New Yorker has more balls than all of Frawnce combined.

Is it possible to imagine anyone but Muslims or skinheads carrying out this attack? Not skinheads? Check.

I did a quick search on French anti-Semitism and found this,

Would you be ready to protect the Jews in your area?

My answer has to be, not really. I have the guns, but I need more trigger fingers.

I am wondering if this was some sort of trial run for these "youths" to determine their worthiness for another more deadly/glorious use? (Since they did it soooo publicly) Or just [bigoted word] hoodlums being [bigoted word] hoodlums?

#114 Zulubaby

It couldn't happen to a nicer place.

May they wake up in time, for if, G-d forbid, it happens, then all of Europe and the UK will be taken over. (Sorry, I just don't ever think of the UK as a part of Europe...that damned Chunnel is a high tech conduit for illegal RoP members to get a winky wink from the fwog customs & immigration officers, as they head to England, and thus are not such an economic drain on the frogs....

What amazes me is that a country of such physical beauty, and cities as grand as Paris, is so full of decay and rot in those who inhabit it.

IMHO, it is almost getting to the critical point for the Jews in fwance to emigrate, before it is too late. This enemy is more of a menace to all of us, Jew and Christian, than h***** was (may his name and memory be obliterated)....the damnded fwench are so full of themselves assume that they are just too wonderful to be harmed...they have to learn the hard way, and seem to forget that their collaboration with the nazis during WWII did not save a lot of French lives, and that collaboration with the RoP just brings jihad, beheadings and homicide bombings, as they, too, are nothing but dhimmis.

And as we saw at the recent commemoration of D-Day, they prefer to forget who saved their sorry asses. Left [not meant as a double entendre:) ] on their own, they would have the highest rate of torn rotator cuffs on earth, as that hands in the air, in abject surrender posture they so easily assume, would really hurt...

NY Nana, I don't know what more the Jews in France need in order to understand that it's over. The French sat around and watched a woman and her baby being attacked by six men and did nothing. I couldn't be more disgusted if I tried. The French and the Islamists deserve each other.

#119 NY Nana

People like Bin Laden and Zarkawi make the little corporal and Joachin Pfiffer look like pikers.

They make them almost look respectable.

The "men" on this train that allowed this attack should go home and cut off their nuts. They aren't men, and are already psychologically emasculated.

As Model4 puts it:

The others on the train promptly collaborated.

Fuck the French. They make me sick.

My take on the French is genetic. After loosing hundreds of thousands of men in the first half of the century their genetic stock is depleted. The vast majority of those with any honor were all killed off. Leaving them with what they have today. A morally corrupt society unwilling to stand up for its self.

They will either fall or become the tip of the spear in the fight against the islamo nazi. France has, in the past, brutally smashed uprisings in Algeria. Killing masses of people in the streets. However, I believe that once they realize that the cancer in their country is not just after the jews it will be to late.

If I were a Jew in france I would get the fuck out, If I were a Jew in the US I would get a small pistol and carry it everywhere I took my house keys...

zulubaby,

Be a little bit understanding - these other passengers also thought that the young mother was Jewish.

French true colors were never hidden too deep and now there are shining in the whle glory. Fuck'em!

It couldn't happen to a nicer place.

Seems to be a clear case of "I shall curse those who curseth thee".

In reality, of course, Jew-hatred is simply one of the earliest symptoms of a personal and/or soicetal disease. Fatal disease, in case of societies: the decline leading inexorably to their destruction.

So I agree wholeblackheartedly -- fuck France. Let it die.

We shall ourselves no longer be your shield,
no longer launch our battlecries;
but study the convulsive battlefield
from far off through our narrow eyes!

We shall not stir when the murderous Huns
pillage the dead, turn towns to ash,
in country churches stable their squadrons,
and foul the air with roasting flesh.

Let them reap what they've sown.

marek

Be a little bit understanding - these other passengers also thought that the young mother was Jewish.

Now that they know that she wasn't, I'm sure they'll be, um, outraged. What pathetic excuses for human beings. No wonder the jihadis feel brave enough to push them around. Who in France is going to stand up to them?

Q, I'm so angry about this. I am officially done with France, this has made me ill. I don't know how they live with themselves.

Maybe we really can't blame the rest of the passsengers
too much for not helping; people have been murdered in New York
on the street and cried for help, and nobody came.
(Hopefully things would be different today.) And how many ordinary citizens want to tangle with some thugs with knives--especially if, as is likely in France, they were unarmed themselves, and could become subjects for retaliation?
OTOH, the French reports seem to be not mentioning that these attackers were Muslim. By burying their heads in the sand over that issue, they think they are avoiding causing more trouble; but in fact, they are just postponing--for only a very short period--what must become an inevitable confrontation.
In the 1960s, more than a million citizens of French descent were tossed out of N. Africa, and re-assimiliated in metropolitan France.
It's past time for France (and the rest of Europe) to consider that now some boatloads of migrants might have to start heading the othe way--or else there won't be a France anymore, just an Algeria-Nord.

Maybe this is a cowboy American attitude, but I could not face myself in the mirror if I saw something like that happen without trying to stop it.

I get involved. I've called the cops several times when I was not technically "involved." I've offered to give testimony or identify criminals. If necessary -- and I've done this before -- I'll get a weapon and go stalking burglars with apartment managers. I was the "muscle" in case he was jumped.

French "men" are a joke.

#120 Zulu

Yes, they do deserve each other....and how long before the fwag Metro and the fwench cult of islam members produce a home-grown crop of homicide bombers?

#121 Postal Worker

The "men" on this train that allowed this attack should go home and cut off their nuts. They aren't men, and are already psychologically emasculated.

Great description....and I am still shaking my head at the haste with which chirac spoke out in indignation...compared to their silence when Jews were attacked. To the voices that say they (the fwags) can go to hell, I add mine, and it is a very loud one!

#124 Marek

Too true!

OT, but this is really sad, especially after PM Berlusconi spoke up so bravely, but is now seeing his numbers drop like a lead balloon..

Italy Blocks Ship With Sudanese Refugees

All I can think of is the SS St. Louis and what might have been...........

I swear to God if in a simular situation, I'll do my best to make the [bigoted word]s wish daddy had pulled out early on conception night, even if it means my life... NEVER AGAIN you God-damned islamonazis!!!

Condor (#127)

people have been murdered in New York on the street and cried for help, and nobody came.

Where? When? I doubt something like this could happen on the subway in New York while people just sat around and watched. This is going on all the time in France and the French don't care. Do you mean to tell me that if you saw a baby being knocked over you'd do nothing!? I just can't get over this.

Well, I do remember the Kitty Genovese case... So it took 50 years or so for France to arrive to what it criticized then...

I can't imagine this happening here in Texas. I have to think every person on a bus/train/mall/whatever, would be up and fighting. I can't see myself or my fellow Texan's just sitting, witnessing such a thing. This makes me want to trade in the tiny little pocketknife I keep in my bag for something more substantial.

Condor, #127

As a former NYC resident and a frequent visitor, I cannot image a trainload of New Yorkers sitting passively while a gang of "youths" attacked a single mother and her infant. The French seem to have perfected the art of turning away; but New Yorkers, whatever their faults, would intervene.

The French may actually get angry after this one. She wasn't Jewish, after all.

On the other hand, to do ANYTHING about the problem would mean having to admit that they were doing something wrong in the first place -- but clinical narcissists can never admit an error.

So it will go on...

Perhaps all the French will soon have to leave France, not just the Jews?

Would serve them right.

After reading about this DISGUSTING turn of affairs..Something that you could have BET would happen...(no one paying ANY attention to the Antisemitism in France OR saying we exaggerated it..OR saying it was our own fault ) I say..Get on out of there French Jews. I know its gorgeous over there..but...the PEOPLE of that COUNTRY are despicable. Come here or go to Israel. Run dont walk. Time to leave..TAKE THE HINT.

Russian Jews...ARE YOU LISTENING? Get the F..out of there as well. Its only a matter of time till it will be some bastard accusing some Jew of SOMETHING horrible. You know it always happens like that...

Others here who don't know how it worked for us...Read a bit of the history of what has happened to Jews in these Countries. Little hint on what you will find..MURDEROUS activity of all kinds towards Jews when these Countries are finished USING US. It forms a PATTERN of behavior...Something wrong in your Country?..BLAME THE JEW...no matter how far down or back you have to go to FIND THE JEW.....

Im pretty much sick of their behavior. Im pretty much sick of NOT talking about it in the DETAIL we should have been....

#129 NY Nana

That chirac pic is marvelous!

Everyone should see it: Chirac morphs into Saddam

The two have a lot in common, besides the Osirak atomic bomb plant. Both are clinical narcissists.

What i find more disgusting than the actual attack was the fact that a train load of people sat there and did nothing.

What a bunch of cowards. The French make me ill.

I am torn between thinking French Jews should get the hell out or should stay and fight.

zulubaby #126

I'm affraid they will continue to think that this government responsibility to intervene. The damn PC has got probably to deep ingrained in their psyche.

Shame on them just the same.

#136 Leah

No matter what they read, hear or see, there are those who simply do not want to know, just as here there are far too many who want to put 9/11 behind them, and never give a thought that the danger is still there, and as the conventions and the elections approach, we are all in great danger....anmd then we have this: Family tells Arabs that Hassoun joined Marines to make a living . He is most likely a traitor....

#137 Mardukhai

Thanks..that was in the Sun (UK) early on, in the war, and I had it as a .gif. It took a while to get it in a postable link, as here we can't include .gif's any other way on LGF.

Isn't amazing how so many penny ante 'leaders' seem to be blood brothers? Ah, but chirac, being fwench, is ever so much more subtle.... Osiris, bloody fwance's gift to Iraq, that Ilan Ramon zt'l was instrumental in destroying.

Nah, the six thugs were defending themselves from the baby pacifier the mother was threatening them with. Clearly the mother deserved it.
/sarcasm
We obviously need more Islamic eunuchs. Where's Lorena Bobbitt?

My take on Chirac (The nutless Clod)

[French President Jacques Chirac said he was "horrified by this odious attack" that occurred only hours after he called on the French to step up the struggle against anti-Semitism and racism. All French political leaders expressed their horror and disgust at a crime "smearing France", said Jean-Louis Debr , the Chairman of the National Assembly]

You see, they don't give a damn about the poor woman or her kid, just that France's reputation was smeared>

They are "horrified" by this. Anti-semitism might make France look bad, so let's stop ignoring it. I see.

Worthless fucks!

I wonder what the stats are for this year's tourism to Frawnce. Does anyone know where they're maintained? I remember last year was a bust for Americans going to that benighted country. Ditto for wine and cheese sales.

#143 The Bruce

I have no desire to ever go there. I never buy french stuff because it's crappy and expensive. (See Le Car).

I mean for cryin out loud the wheels only have 3 lug nuts on em. Our Oregon Pinot kicks ass too. Why spend twice as much for burgundian wine that is no better?

What else does France have that we would want?

Postal Worker:

I have no desire to ever go there. I never buy french stuff because it's crappy and expensive

I wish everyone would feel the same, but I don't think that many Americans have arrived at a sense of outrage sufficient to sustain a real boycott.

Europe, not again. Buy some AC.

BUCHAREST (AFP) - Extreme temperatures, which have killed at least 22 people in Romania in the space of a week, continued to plague Europe, with Greece sweltering in a heatwave and an open-air performance of Verdi's "Traviata" canceled in Italy......

.....In France, where nearly 15,000 people died in an extended heatwave last year, summer 2004 continued to be a rain-drenched washout.

Your average temperatures may be great. However, the extremes which make the average are what kill people. Our average temperatures are not that high either. AC is considered a necessity here. Based on the annual death toll in Europe, I think we're a bit smarter.

The Bruce:

I am back from France... and people are complaining about the fact that American tourists are still not coming... :-)

#147 Pitiricus

Heh heh. Let them eat croissants.

Well, their croissants ARE good but expensive!

Actually France is getting poorer and poorer... But it couldn't happen to a more deserving country!

#149 Pitiricus

They better get used to pita bread. There has to be something haram about good tasting pastries.

#147 Pitiricus

The nerve, the unmitigated gall of the gauls! Kvetching that there are no Americans dumb enough to volunteer to be spit on, insulted and treated like shit???

Now who can they make fun of? I guess a really large mirror might give them a clue....

Remind me to tell you guys about my brief excursion in France 10 years ago... hhoooollyyy cow.

I found this article, by AP writer Elaine Ganley, that makes no mention of the race or religion of the culprits, but informs us that this year "racist attacks, often against Muslims, also rose". She also says "Muslims are often blamed for attacks on Jews"; I thought they were often responsible for attacks on Jews.

In light of this, I cannot in any real sense allow myself to continue posting as "therien," even if I chose it as an epithet of French-Canadian origin.

For the board: Name change. Know me as "Asedwich" from now on. Closer to my real name, and nobody has ever e-mailed me in any case.
Effective tomorrow... it seems I need a new e-mail address.

#28

Your desire that Frenchmen defend an unarmed woman reflects your American, cowboyish tendency to overreact and act in a unilateral fashion.

You need to have a more nuanced understanding of the situation. Perhaps the men on the train were busy reading the latest anti-Israel screed in Le Monde? I'm sure you will agree that the plight of the Palestinians outweighs this attack on a single person, who anyway, for all we know, was an imperialist, colonial oppressor. And anyway I'm sure the men on the train would have acted in her defense once they had built a solid coalition based on consensus and mutual cooperation.

Furthermore, we don't know from the article how this woman was clad. Perhaps her attire offended against the laws of shariah?

I hope in the future you will examine these situations with a bit more forbearance.

/Sarcasm off....

#155 ibn Abu

Phew! I'm glad you included the sarc tag! I would never in a million years have detected any sarcasm in that post without it.

/sarc

dB^)

#156 Thom

Hey, I just want to make aboslutely sure I'm not mistaken for some LLL Frenchie.
Esp. with a monicker like ibn Abu

If the woman were Jewish, the French wouldn't have cared. What a bunch of sick monkeys the French are. I was called a "dirty jew" by some youths in Paris, people were around, no one said anything. I overheard some brits talking loudly about the "problems with jews", people were around no one said anything, and When my wife and I were in London a man started hurling classic, "You killed Jesus" remarks at us. I was shocked that no one on a crowded train said anything, they just stared at the floor. After we got off the train a passanger walked up to me and WHISPERED "We don't all think that way", yes, but they'll do nothing to stop it either. I've been four Eur-abian countries and in three I've been verbally attacted for being a Jew or heard slander against jews, none having to do with Israel, as the EU claims.

Baier - What did you do in response to these attacks?

Never mind the alleged "men" in france....even I wouldnt have sat by and watched this shit go down...women, especially jewish women over there need to start taking self defence, arm themselves...I dont know the gun laws over there but a stun gun works wonders....pepper spray is also effective. It will be a cold day in hell before I sat by and watched ANY woman, including one of their own be abused by a bunch of sissy muslim men...women need to be prepared.

#159

The first one in Paris, I was stunned, and just kept walking, so really nothing, but to be fair to me there was three of them and one of me. On the Metro in London I told the guy in not so nice terms, that he was a raving idiot. Mostly though these things are so random that they're shocking...always after I think of better ways to respond. My father in-law had an idea to organize jews from the US and Israel to go to France to protect the Jewish population. I think it's a great idea, how embarassing would it be for France for that to happen and how rewarding to help the French Jews. The Jewish Guardian Angels!

#160 Cop's wife

Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain that in infantalized France, stun guns and pepper spray are also illegal.

#161 Baier

That is a superb idea. But I'm willing to bet that the "volunteers" would be arrested immediately by the same French police that do nothing to stop Muslim attackers.

France battles anti-Semitism

(.....)

The problem, according to French officials and Jewish leaders, is what they have labeled the "new anti-Semitism." Unlike the old form of anti-Semitism, deeply rooted in Christianity's historic enmity toward Jews and kept alive today mainly by the extreme right and neo-Nazi fringe, the new anti-Semitism flourishes among Arab immigrant groups who see Jews as surrogates for Israel.

The new anti-Semitism is the denial of the existence of the Jewish state, where the Jew himself becomes a substitute for Israel," said Serge Klarsfeld, France's renowned Nazi-hunter.

The phenomenon is hardly unique to France, but it is more noticeable here, perhaps because France has Europe's largest Muslim population--about 5 million--and its largest Jewish population--500,000 to 600,000.

Last year, a report commissioned by the European Union (news - web sites)'s Monitoring Center on Racism and Xenophobia blamed anti-Semitic violence on Arab and Muslim immigrant groups. But the monitoring center was uncomfortable with this finding, believing that it unfairly singled out a group that was itself a victim of discrimination.

(.....)

[A]ccording to Jewish groups and unofficial police estimates, 90 percent of the attacks are carried out by young Arabs, mainly from France's large and impoverished North African immigrant community.

(.....)

Although the majority of the attacks are carried out by Muslim youths, most Jewish leaders say the French media are partly to blame because of their hostile coverage of Israel.

A depressing article but at least it correctly acknowledges the culprits of this rising anti-semitism. And yet the EU will continue sending millions in aid to that rat's lair in Ramallah whilst castigating Israel for defending itself.

Hhhmmm, bad news. CNN reports that police are now having doubts about the incident.

Spiritualized (#163)

France battles anti-Semitism

That's nonsense, actually. France is doing no such thing.

Also, the BBC. Of course if they say it, it must be a lie, right Charles?

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

90 percent of the attacks are carried out by young Arabs, mainly from France's large and impoverished North African immigrant community.

Um, wouldn't immigrants from North Africa be Africans not Arabs?

#164/167

Hmmm....

Even if it turns out not to be true, isn't it still ok, because it reveals "essential truths" about France?

If the investigation shows this is a false claim, Michael Moore should share his Palme d'Or with this woman.

Woman 'lied about swastika attack'

This is just wierd - it's the second time in a year that there's been a news report of an anti-Semitic attack against a non-Jew that later turned out to be a fabrication. What gives?

#170 ben-ami: It's not that weird. It's similar to the claims that Muslims were assaulted throughout the U.S. after 9/11 - most of the cases were unsubstantiated and probably never happened.

I expect that Charles should be posting a link to the hoax report. He seems to be fairly honorable that way - did it in the Brandon Mayfield case.

Of course, then the LGF irregulars, the ones who said "Mayfield's undoubtedly guilty anyway, after all, he is a Muslim," will chime in with their own version of events in France. I predict the common theme will be "but there are plenty of other anti-semitic attacks to report." Some may even say that it really happened and the poor woman was probably tortured by anti-semitic French police (straight out of The Life of Emile Zola) into confessing to the hoax.

171 - Well, it's wierd in that it's non-Jews who are perpetrating the hoaxes. First that Dunn woman, then this woman on the train. Neither was Jewish, but both claimed to have been mistaken for Jews by anti-Semites. It's not the hoax itself that I find wierd, but who's doing it.

Notice that Gordon had nothing to say about this until it came to light that this woman was lying. Now, suddenly, his panties are in a knot over it.