Three in a row!

There are specific commands to do this in the Koran, in order to expressly shame and humiliate the victim.

Second! Yipee! Booyakashaka!

/sarc

Sheesh.

No better than Orcs.

#1, #3 - C'mon, folks, on this thread, that's tacky. :(

Once again, acts like these pale in comparison to forcing a 16 y/o would-be Palestinian suicide bomber to remove his bomb belt and strip to his underwear.

/minimizing all but Israeli "atrocities".

A 14-year-old girl? Now there's a formiddable opponent. What a brave bunch of terrorists.

Seriously, though, these people seem to lack the most essential elements of humanity - a conscience, a soul, empathy, the ability to identify with something outside the self. Is it "racist" to call them subhuman?

So the police call these animals by their correct name but al-reuters still insists on using the word 'guerillas'. What an age we live in.

#5 - it's always tacky, and you're right.

believing her to be an informer for the Indian army, police said.

Why would a 14-year-old village girl be an informant? I don't understand...

Sorry about that.

Posted before I read.

This is deadly serious and not to be ignored or taken lightly.

My apologies.

"Militants" and "guerillas" should be universally offended being associated with these people. The 1960s paradigm never changes. These savages are serial killers or just sick criminals. To dignify their actions with words is disgusting.

It's horrible journalism to use words which bear no relationship to the activity being described. "Militants" fight other "militants." Killing or mutilating little girls is just street crime.

She's a Muslim but that didn't stop these psychos.

Frank IBC, agreed. My bad.

I doubt if this horribly mutliated girl was an informer for the Indian Army, she probably refused some dirty imam who wanted her as a second wife or, perhaps, she was seen in public "immodestly dressed". I can't image anything more wretched and dehumanizing than being a female growing up in some sharia hellhole.

Poster child for Slobo Moore and his LLL buddies.

#10 jinnderella
She could be capable of telling police something about jihadi activity. It's also possible she snubbed one of them -- refused to marry him and become moslem. That happens a lot. Just speculating.

Well, I'm sure that it took at least 6 of them big bad brave Moslems men to mutilate that little girl. Maybe even more!

It'd be nice if some nice Christian, Jewish, Hindu (anything but death cult) group or person would fly this poor girl to a modern Western medical center for reconstructive and cosmetic surgery.

Yesterday we here of a gang of "North Africans" ganging up on a loan woman and her baby, and now "militants" outnumber a teenage girl and mutilate her.

There is an amazingly strong undercurrent of cowardice that runs through Islam.

#13 dennisw-matamoros
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She's a Muslim but that didn't stop these psychos

I couldn't find anything in a quick look that said she is Muslim. What did you see?

The only good thing about the Kashmir conflict is that the western media do not automatically side with muslims. But stories like this are never reported in the mainstream press. :(

---
Jesus healed. Mohamed killed.

Fucking heroes...

Four Finnish Peacekeepers Wounded in Kosovo

Arab League urges UN against hasty sanctions on Sudan

I've stopped becoming upset when the media say "militant"--like all euphemisms, in time it acquires the characteristics of the term it is replacing. Anytime most people hear "militant" they now think "terrorist."

of course this is the fault of the zionists in some way

I've been trying to think how this is going to be Israel and America's fault...we all know that somehow it is going to be.

I hope this doesn't come to pass, but it looks entirely possible.

July 19 issue - Newsweek Magazine
American counterterrorism officials, citing what they call "alarming" intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States this fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of the November presidential election in the event of such an attack, NEWSWEEK has learned. Tom Ridge's Homeland Security department last week asked the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel to analyze what legal steps would be needed to permit the postponement of the election were an attack to take place.

Swamp woman:

I don't know about muslims in general, but arabs ARE cowards... They scream until you scream louder, then they shut up...

#26 The Bruce:
Ah! The Bushitler is planning a coup! Fake a terrorist attack and then cancel the elections.

I'm sure the neocon cabal is behind this.

19

"lone woman", not "loan woman".

Sometimes karma or kismet or fate bites the bad guys in the ass -

Arm lost in Net-recipe bomb blast
From correspondents in Lyon, France
July 12, 2004 news.com.au network

FIVE young Frenchmen were injured, two of them seriously, when a bomb they were making following instructions from the Internet exploded today.

One of the group suffered serious injuries to his eyes, while another lost an arm, judicial officials and firefighters said.

The men were 25 and 30 years old.

The full circumstances of the incident in the town of Saint-Georges-de-Reneins, north of Lyon, were not immediately known.

Lyon? Five Frenchmen?

Hold off the elections until just enough dirt can be found on Kerry/Edwards. Heheheh.

#26 The Bruce

It do sound like they expectin' something more serious than a car bomb into a po-lice station, don't it?

CBA/cba: "Ah! The Bushitler is planning a coup! Fake a terrorist attack and then cancel the elections. I'm sure the neocon cabal is behind this."

No US election has ever been postponed to my knowledge, despite civil war, foreign wars, and economic catastrophes. To do so now would constitute a serious defeat. Just preparing the legal mechanism to do so means the Administration might employ it. It's a sign of weakness at the least.

The name Mariam suggests she is probably Muslim. It is the Arabic form of the name "Miriam", IIRC.

Swamp Woman:

It do sound like they expectin' something more serious than a car bomb into a po-lice station, don't it?

Yes, it certainly does, but I'd rather the Supreme Court extended voting hours, if it came to it, than postpone the entire process.

#35 The Bruce

No US election has ever been postponed to my knowledge, despite civil war, foreign wars, and economic catastrophes. To do so now would constitute a serious defeat. Just preparing the legal mechanism to do so means the Administration might employ it. It's a sign of weakness at the least.

S/L they think that there may be a large enough attack that could keep sufficient people from getting to the polls. I don't know that preparing for the eventuality would be a sign of weakness. I'm one of those people that likes to plan for just about everything.

#26 The Bruce

If this has any credibility then we seriously underestimate the political knowledge of our enemy. If they succeeded in forcing the government to postpone the election and Bush got elected, he would be a 4 year lame duck if not impeached by the "loyal" opposition. However, in an alternate outcome Kerry could get elected and the war would be all but finished.

During WW2 the Germans and Japs didn't even try something like this. The enemy is insanely dangerous for the future of our country: destroy them now by any means necessary.

#36 The Bruce

Yes, it certainly does, but I'd rather the Supreme Court extended voting hours, if it came to it, than postpone the entire process.

Well, if an entire region could not get to the polls for whatever reason (disrupted traffic, martial law, power grid down, pesky nuclear fallout, anthrax spores) then I can see that the REST of the nation can vote as usual, but may have to wait until noncrispy voters can get to the polls, or have new polls set up, in the problem areas.

Dang, this is going to be an exciting election.

Enemies get their face mutilated, while friends get their genitals mutilated.

Sura catch 22.

Unclue Joe says:

During WW2 the Germans and Japs didn't even try something like this.

Still talking out of your ass I see.

My God, that poor child. These Islamic hate merchants are totally evil.

#31 struan-
If 5 idiots were making a bomb in Lyon from an Internet recipe, they were most likely Muslim. It doesn't matter where they are, they commit evil. They were only injured you noted. Much more of that should happen.

#35 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C

The name Mariam suggests she is probably Muslim.

Yeah that thought did cross my mind as well.

#41 Geepers

Yeah that Japanese sub shelled Ft Stevens near Astoria for nothing.

Woah, I meant "may have to wait to announce the result" until the voters inconvenienced by whatever type of attack the Islamonuts have in mind. And, of course, it might take awhile for the voters to finish burning mosques and get back to voting.

#42 Azure

Yeah that is why my Anarchist Cookbooks CD has the following disclaimer on it:

Try these things only if:

1. You are tired of living
2. You are incredibly stupid
3. Prison sounds good to you

Swamp Woman:

if an entire region could not get to the polls for whatever reason (disrupted traffic, martial law, power grid down, pesky nuclear fallout, anthrax spores) then I can see that the REST of the nation can vote as usual, but may have to wait until noncrispy voters can get to the polls, or have new polls set up, in the problem areas

Gruesome thoughts, but all too possible given the events of the past three years.

Although I don't think the enemy will attack on Election Day but before it--perhaps several times. Their goal is not to delay the ritual but to alter its outcome.

#41 Geepers

Still talking out of your ass I see.

Demonstrate proof that the Japs or Germans tried to tank FDR's relection campaign during WW2 otherwise STFU

During WW2 the Germans and Japs didn't even try something like this. The enemy is insanely dangerous for the future of our country: destroy them now by any means necessary.

Well, I'm sure that if they had the capability, they would have done it.

#23 cba . . .

I've stopped becoming upset when the media say "militant"--like all euphemisms, in time it acquires the characteristics of the term it is replacing. Anytime most people hear "militant" they now think "terrorist."

I agree. The English language is easily abased by exaggeration and its opposite. Here's a case where the understatement makes the formerly "nice" word just as bad as the real word "terrorist."

OT There are a lot of Britons who post on LGF. A big difference between American English and British English used to be that the Americans exaggerated and the British understated. Is that still true?

#26 The Bruce

a proposal that could allow for the postponement of the November presidential election in the event of... an attack

What a mess that would be. Of course, it would depend on what kind of attack and where and on what scale.

And, of course, the kicker would be that the Dems and LLL's would accuse Bush of using an attack and postponement as a way of hanging onto the office he took illegitmately anyway.

What a mess. What a mess.

Although I don't think the enemy will attack on Election Day but before it--perhaps several times. Their goal is not to delay the ritual but to alter its outcome.

I tend to agree. I believe that they would attack close to, but not on, the day of election. I don't think that would be a wise move on their part, but I'm not their consigliere.

Re "militants" and "terrorists"...maybe it's time we all started reinvigorating that old word "savages," which the PC police got rid of. But it's a very useful word.

Savages.

Savages.

#31 strau al kufr

FIVE young Frenchmen were injured, two of them seriously, when a bomb they were making following instructions from the Internet exploded today.

Yes, you cannot trust anything you read on the internet these days. :)

#51 I don't know if I would say "the Dems" and the LLL. The people that are still Dems that I know are big-time Bush supporters, and I'm talkin' people that have never voted Republican in their lives.

Something smells of communist dictator. I think I'll go walk around the sludge pond out back to clear out the stink.

Unclue Joe,

You're right, neither the Japs nor the Krauts tried to tank FDR's "relection" campaign.

The acid attacks in honor killings and honor maimings are bad enough. I don't know what to say.

Damnation. I guess I better not take instructions on how to build a bomb on the internet. You just don't know who you can trust anymore.

If them fun-lovin' practical jokin' folk in Al Quaeda ain't careful, we gonna have Bigel for Prez.

#42 Azure

Cool and deep blue - azure, always gentle on my mind.

-;) Where was I? Oh, yeah -

The Lyon area is full of uhh, immigrants - no good - I can't even say that with a straight mouse.

But the area has had a Middle Eastern prescence since at least the 1st century CE - The Herodians had large estates in the Vienne area (just south of Lyon and its one time competitor for the rich Rhone river trade).
Whenever a Roman Emperor "banished" a member of the Herodian clan they got sent to Vienne.

#46 Postal Worker

The Anarchist's Cookbook is out on CD? Man, how time flies - I remember it on newstands and in bookstores.

You just jerkin' my chain or is that serious - on CD?

Mariam Begum was abducted by a group of militants from her house in Doda district south of Srinagar, Kashmir’s summer capital.

This is simple mysogyny, just like when that militant Ted Bundy used to go around raping and murdering women.

//%$#@&* LLL media

#4 Snake Plissken

Sheesh.

No better than Orcs.

At least Orcs have an excuse for not acting human, though.

#23 cba

I've stopped becoming upset when the media say "militant"--like all euphemisms, in time it acquires the characteristics of the term it is replacing. Anytime most people hear "militant" they now think "terrorist."

True - and it points out how biased the insistance on using "militants" is, especially for dealing with senseless and horrific acts like this. What, did Al-Reuters get Bed Linin's bastard kid for an editor?

Lysander

OT: Not Only Farmers Get Farm Tax Breaks (Pittsburgh Tribune-Review)

A 10-building Fox Chapel compound owned by Teresa Heinz Kerry, which includes a Colonial mansion assessed at $658,000 and a handful of steers and chickens, is listed on tax rolls as an 88-acre farm. Her husband, Sen. John F. Kerry -- the Democratic Party's presumptive nominee for president -- affectionately calls her "the lady of the farm."

If it had been listed as residential, her taxes would increase by $113,609, according to county records.

#53 Promethea

OK, savage: [Your Dictionary.com]
1. Not domesticated or cultivated; wild.
2. Not civilized; barbaric
3. Ferocious; fierce
4. Vicious or merciless; brutal
see synonyms at cruel.

Yes, indeed; it fits just fine.

#46 Postal Worker
Big Grin. A great reference work you have there.

#34 The Bruce

No US election has ever been postponed to my knowledge, despite civil war, foreign wars, and economic catastrophes. To do so now would constitute a serious defeat. Just preparing the legal mechanism to do so means the Administration might employ it. It's a sign of weakness at the least.

I don't think it's fair to call it "weakness." Think back to 2000 and the difficulty of the question of whether all voters had an equal opportunity to vote. THAT'S what the problem would be.

Say, even one major city was devastated immediately before or on election day. And a big segment of the population either couldn't vote or were intimidated from voting. There would be serious question as to the validity of an election under those circumstances.

It would be a -- legal and constitutional -- mess.

We really have had enough of these monsters. There is a point at which, as Netanyahu says, one tires of looking for needles in a hay stack.

Time to take out the hay stack. One might say the time is actually long past.

They are coming with knives drawn to butcher everything decent and innocent.

Enough.

#64 Baldy

Well, I'd be right happy to see 'em both dressed in overalls and splattered with cow shit. I'd say let 'em keep their tax break then.

#61 struan al kufr

I have 3 versions on one CD.

Most of the stuff in them will get you maimed, killed or arrested.

Joe

Post #247

I took Dzhugashvili as an alias in college, mainly to conceal my identity online (email, microsoft passport, etc). I never had anyone ask me what it really stood for but came here and realized people know how to use google. I of course don't support what he did and think he is an evil bastard. But I have a certain fascination with the ruthlessness in which he handled his EXTERNAL enemies. If it starts to piss people off, I'll get rid of it.

Several posters have asked you to change your nic, but I notice you keep using it. You enjoy pissing people off and never had the intention of getting rid of it. Your thinly veiled insult about people needing to Google to equate your name to Stalin revealed that.

#39 Swamp Woman

Dang, this is going to be an exciting election.

THAT'S the spirit, babe!

#66 Nonic

Say, even one major city was devastated immediately before or on election day. And a big segment of the population either couldn't vote or were intimidated from voting. There would be serious question as to the validity of an election under those circumstances.

It would be a -- legal and constitutional -- mess.

It could even be relatively benign, like the entire northeast's power grid going down. That would be a problem; particularly with electronic voting machines. Much as it hurts my rebel heart to say it, even yankees ought to be able to vote.

I ain't made my mind up about Seattle yet.

Server checkout time. If I have any criticals I'll not be back tonight. Later gaters.

Is it ME? or is this THE most disgusting state of affairs we've ever seen? This is so MUCH WORSE than what happened in the 30's. People are SO turning their heads..to such a mammoth extent that I cant even believe. Have people LOST their minds? How many stories ..true stories like this one do we have to hear about the behavior of Islam. I dont know...I just dont know anymore.

THEY hope you will get sick and tired ...I hope you wont.

If al-qaida sticks to their past MO of repeatedly attacking the same targets until they succeed, the areas to be concerned about would be Washington DC to start with. An attack on the White House or capital building (whatever the original target of flight 93 was) would be my guess.

Of course, we have to be ready for anything, from an attack via anthrax to a dirty bomb in a shipping container sent to Houston to...the possibilities seem endless.

As for timing, I would say right around 3 days before the election, a la Madrid.

I hope we have our retailitory targets already picked out.

Speaking of atrocities, has the IDF dealt out any justice for the Tel Aviv bus bombing Sunday morning?

#42 Swamp Woman

And, of course, it might take awhile for the voters to finish burning mosques and get back to voting.

Interesting thought. What WOULD be the response of the "American street" to another major attack, and one timed to disrupt our election?

I think you could expect that even something as contained as 9/11 was would give rise to increased anti-muslim activity. It would certainly increase criticism of islam and decreased enthusiasm for accommodating muslims for every little pain-in-the-ass complaint they have.

American muslims better damn well hope nothing like this does happen.

#69 PW -

Oh, I'm familiar with it - I once tried, just to see if it would really work - (as a curiosity experiment only), the candle in the gallon milk jug full of gasoline - I don't know how old you are but they were glass in those days.

I think it's failure had more to do with general apathy and the numerous 12 oz, long necked glass bottles previously consumed. Besides, the Marine Corps gave us Det Cord, and C4 and regualr old dynamite to blow stuff up with - who needed Hoffman and Rubin's crap.

I can't get over that - on CD.

Well, why not - how to build a nuclear device on the Web.

What a world.

#47 The Bruce

Their goal is not to delay the ritual but to alter its outcome.

We don't really know that. And delaying it, or delaying the count, or delaying the certification could very well determine the outcome. At the least, it will cause another "constitutional crisis."

They may well see creating that kind of legal mess as much more do-able than actually intimidating the entire American electorate in the way Spain was.

#75 BotP

Good point, and it would be sticking with an established al-Qaeda MO (Madrid, 3-11) to try and influence an election with an attack in either NY or DC. However, I would be DEAD SET against any postponement of the election, no matter what attack was made. This would be the time to show that no amount of attack is going to be allowed to interrupt our democratic (small-d) processes.

Learn the Truth about Islam

12 Beagle

I have written on LGF along similar lines.

Islamic Jihadis give honest to goodness terrorists a bad name.

Somehow I can't imagine the Muzholes mutilating a fellow male in such a fashion.

#55 Swamp Woman

Okay. I've got a Dem friend also a Bush supporter.

74

I have started thinking lately, based on some opinions I have read, that the Soviet Union made it a priority to get people in the media and the academy who generally shared their aims, and did other non-military things aimed at lowering America's readiness and will to resist Soviet expansion. I have seen theories that the 1960s anti-war movement was at least partially a Soviet inspired movement. The Soviets also tried to influence politics in this country. Henry Wallace's campaign manager in the 1948 election (Wallace was FDR's Ag secty, visited the Soviet Union, and fell in love, and split with the Democrats because he perceived Truman to be anti-Soviet) was rumored to be a KGB agent. By the way, George McGovern, whose 1972 candidacy was the beginning of the end of the Democrat party as a center-left, anti-communist loyal opposition, was a volunteer in Wallace's campaign.

Now, the Soviet Union has broken up, but top people in the universities, in the media, in politics (anti-war veterans like the Clintons, Kerry, et al) are now in or have held positions of real power. Most of these people were not aware they had a role in the Soviet's plan to weaken the US from within. They were just indoctrinated in the belief that the US was inherently evil. Perhaps similar Soviet efforts in Europe explain the general anti-US sentiment there.

Now, 15 years after the fall of the Soviet Union, perhaps they may be getting the last laugh.

It would explain why much of the media, the universities, and even top Democratic politicians seem to be working so hard for an American defeat against dangerous enemies.

#69 PW, #78 struan al kufr

Umm, I wouldn't adivse "The Anarchists Cookbook" as the stuff is unstable as hell. I knew a guy with 10th Grp who swore anything printed by Paladin Press is crap and would probably get you killed.

#82 Brenda

Well, now, you're thinkin' of them as warriors again. Warriors generally prefer to test themselves against other warriors. These guys have to gather in large groups in order to attack women and children.

I wonder if Tom Ridge is checkin' out the security precautions on kindergartens and retirement homes.

82

I once made the mistake of clicking on a link on a web site. Not 100% sure it was Muslims responsible, although to the best of my recollection it was. Multiple prisoners of war, with their penises stuffed in their own mouths.

#80 TQC

What if the exit polls were in Kerry's favor?

#83 nonic

I know plenty of Dems who would vote for Bush in a heartbeat if he weren't such a miserable weakling regarding Mexico and the border.

Titus:

I agree. If we could have elections in the middle of a civil war, we can have them this year as well.

Re #80 TQC

Ah, that didn't quite make sense. I was thinking of the scenario where some districts could vote and some couldn't. What if that tipped the election in Kerry's favor?

#78 struan al kufr

There is the vaseline C4 file on there, but it looks dangerous. Also how to sweat nitro from dynamite, but then I think all explosives sold in the US conform to military specs now and don't contain nitro, may be wrong. The one thing I would do is the 2 liter pop bottle and dry ice bomb.

The rest is all crappy phone hacking, how to make various traps, improvised guns etc.

Very juvenile. That's why I printed the CD label. You should be able to google up the files on the net.

89

As if Kerry would do better?

There is some kind of pithy statement, I can't quite recall, that says something about not making "good" the enemy of "perfect".

If one votes for the truly awful, because the good isn't perfect...

If I could remember the statement, it'd make it all clear.

OT: Pakistan is STILL deciding whether or not to ban honor killings (though they do have laws against murder...). I've been reading for a while about a bill, they're still working on it, they say it's ready now. There have been over 4000 honor killings in Pakistan. I also remember posting a story a while back about an honor maiming (I think it was Pakistan) - they cut off the woman's legs. Honour killing has claimed 4,000 lives in six years, Senate told (Dawn, Pakistan 7/10/04)

This is truly horrific...and I think judging by the full name of this girl, that she might be a Christian Indian...

Granted, that wouldn't stop Islamic terrorists from butchering any woman...

Horrible stuff...quite beyond the pale...

#72 Swamp Woman

Much as it hurts my rebel heart to say it, even yankees ought to be able to vote.

Well, now, thank ya kindly, m'am. -)

50 Promethia

A big difference between American English and British English used to be that the Americans exaggerated and the British understated. Is that still true?

I'm not sure if that holds any more. There is considerable interchange of TV programs, particularly comedies, and general travel between our two nations, for that distinction to continue.

Me: "Their goal is not to delay the ritual but to alter its outcome."

Nonic: "We don't really know that. And delaying it, or delaying the count, or delaying the certification could very well determine the outcome. At the least, it will cause another constitutional crisis.

All this is depressing to contemplate, but very likely in the next four months given the two party conventions, the Olympics, as well as the election in November.

If AQ has infiltrated the country, we'll know this year for sure. And any attacks in the country will finally settle the debate on identifying the enemy and his objectives, and agreeing on the means to defeat him, at home and abroad. And then we can fight.

#85 Buckeye Abroad

Exactly.

I'm so sorry to hear about this girl being needlessly and horribly disfigured. The following gang attack happened the other day in my general vicinity:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

In N.Va. Gang, A Brutal Sense Of Belonging
Machete Attack Suspect Lured by Group's Culture
By Mary Beth Sheridan
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, June 28, 2004; Page A01
It was the hands Lt. Jason Jenkins would remember.
The victim was lying on the sidewalk in front of an Alexandria apartment complex, his hands flailing in the cool night air. Jenkins had expected some kind of trouble when he got the call -- "Man down on Edsall Road" -- but not this.
It was a 16-year-old boy, waving his hands. "He was very upset. Just begging us to save his life. Saying, 'Please, save my hands,' " recalled Jenkins, a paramedic.
Jenkins looked at the hands. They were bloody.
He looked harder.
The fingers were gone. Chopped off with a machete.
"It's definitely the most inhumane act of violence I've ever run," said Jenkins, a 10-year veteran of paramedic work.
On May 13, three days after the machete attack, police swarmed into the apartment of a Salvadoran family in Annandale and snapped handcuffs on Hayner R. Flores. He was the first of three alleged gang members who would be charged in the malicious wounding of the 16-year-old.

It is enough to make a person support isolationism and a U.S. wall. Think the world court would protest?

I am not going to get too excited about the POTENTIAL delaying of the November election.
To be brutally candid, if this information has the same credibility of MOST of the CIA generated data, it is suspect at the very least. That said,the election should NOT be postponed for any reaon short of COMPLETE disaster. It just sends a defeatist and weak message to the enemy.

re the Heinz farm.

It's like the SUV. It's not here farm, it's the family's

#84 Ed Moran . . .

Now, 15 years after the fall of the Soviet Union, perhaps they may be getting the last laugh.

It would explain why much of the media, the universities, and even top Democratic politicians seem to be working so hard for an American defeat against dangerous enemies.

That's an interesting theory. On one hand, there may have been some USSR money backing leftists, just like there is Saudi money backing the so-called Mideast "Studies" departments.

On the other hand, the LLLs I know seem to be well-off people in the white collar professions like teaching who are wracked with guilt over their successes while there is suffering in the world.

And, as the P.J. O'Rourke quotation on another thread so beautifully explained, it takes no effort to occupy the "moral high ground."

#100 adie

I wonder if that was near the old Ames? I heard about the one in Fairfax, but not that one... damn, I know the deathcult is near, but that's down the fu**in road... :(

Lysander

#97 DP111 . . .

I'm not sure if that holds any more. There is considerable interchange of TV programs, particularly comedies, and general travel between our two nations, for that distinction to continue.

That's what I thought may have happened. I do often wonder if the Brits who read LGF think that us Americans are nuts because we so often use flamboyant words.

Hey, isn't it past your bedtime??? ;)

In the event of a major disaster, could not martial law go into effect?

But other than that, I'm voting unless I'm crisped!

And when it comes to summoning up guts, my money's on the conservatives.

#98 The Bruce

If AQ has infiltrated the country, we'll know this year for sure. And any attacks in the country will finally settle the debate on identifying the enemy and his objectives, and agreeing on the means to defeat him, at home and abroad. And then we can fight.

I hope you're right---settle the debate, identify the enemy. But I'm not counting on it.

And then, agreeing on the means is a much harder question. How WILL we fight this enemy?

Sometimes I think only wiping out vast sections of the middle east will even begin to end it. And that seems so unlikely a thing that we'd do.

Off work! WHOO HOOO!

See ya all later.

#101 blutto

the election should NOT be postponed for any reaon short of COMPLETE disaster. It just sends a defeatist and weak message to the enemy.

An ORDERLY response that holds up legally and constitutionally and that is supported by the vast majority of the American people is what will show strength. If a postponement is required in order to achieve that, that might be what has to be done.

Mind you, postponement would not be my first suggestion, because an attack could be repeated before the postponed election.

We might need some other mechanism, like wide spread use of absentee ballots or something. I don't know.

But whatever, it has to be orderly, legal, and accepted as valid.

Ed Moran (#93),

There is some kind of pithy statement, I can't quite recall, that says something about not making "good" the enemy of "perfect".

Better is the worst enemy of good enough.

107 nonic 98 The Bruce

They are already here and seems they are about to 'elect' their first representative

Cynthia McKinney's Arab and Islamist Donors We all knew that Cynthia McKinney would be drawing on Arab and Muslim supporters in her bid to return to Congress, but a listing of contributors (with information up through June 28) reveals to what an extraordinary extent this is the case, as shown by the names of her backers.

Of particular note is the who's who of radical organizations her donors are associated with:

Link Daniel Pipes

#52 SwampWoman:

I am curious, where do you live that you know many life-long Dems who are big Bush supporters. Here in Philly and, even more so in NYC, there are hoards of "Anything but Bush types" who are barely rationale. I ran into two of them at a small synagogue yesterday. (Someone once commented that a neurosurgeon might have a field day dissecting the mind of Jewish leftist. Talk about voting against one's self interest!)

I hope you are right. My hunch is more Jews are voting Republican than ever before, however, the Jews are small in number and cannot throw a race.

#85 Buckeye - No sweat -wa-ay too old for such childish crap - I've seen the bomb dump at Chu-Lai go up in '68 - now that was an explosion. 500 pallets of 500 pounders detonate at once. It crystallized the fine Chu-Lai sand into tiny glass balls and they rained downed on the tin roofed hootches like metal rain, hissing softly on the hootch roofs - ver-ry eerie. The fireball that went up was a mushroom cloud shape so, combined with the little glass balls falling, we were convinced the goo - er, the Vietnamese, had nukes! Biggest explosion I've ever seen -biggest explosion I ever wanna see!

#92 PW - No - my amazement was that the book is still around much less on CD. I don't need to google it - there is always evil sufficient unto the day.

#84 Ed moran and

#103 Promethea -

It was Standard Operating Procedure for commies to
Go For The Robes - get the positions in a society that wore robes. Judges, lawyers, lawmakers, professors etc.
Iffen y'all had the Robes, y'all had the society by the short & curlies - as we are learning to our dismay with orgaizations like the ACLU, the NEA, the ABA, the entire Democrat Party etc.

It works.

95 albertadude

You have a point. I suppose you are going by the fact that she is known as Mariam rather then Miriam. However there is the Begum to consider. Begum is generally associated with muslim women. But whatever, this is par for the course for Islamic Jihadis.

Reuters, AP, BBC etal call these thugs as militants. We would rather they were known as terrorists. However, I now am of the opinion that Islamic Jihadis give honest terrorists a bad name. I think Islamic Jihadis is a better name, as it educates people about the the source of the problem.

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There is a post in response, on the other thread.

95 Albertadude

And another thing. If she was a Christian or Hindu, she would have been decapitated. No, I think this girl is a muslim. Remember, she can still be usefully married off, to act as a slave to her muslim overlord, who has been generous enough to marry a disfigured girl. She can also be a productive for Islam, by producing more Jihadis.

"Perfection is the enemy of excellence."

I don't think the [bigoted word]s would try to delay the election by doing something like taking down a regional power grid. That's spectacular, but it doesn't mess with the public's mind.

If I were they, I'd try to do something that would create the same shitstorm as the 2000 election, to cast doubt on the outcome and muddy the victor's mandate.

I'd research those polling districts in which the race is projected to be very close. Then, I'd target the county and city offices where ballots are collected for counting and blow them up. Scatter the chads completely. No way to get a recount.

To rub it in, I'd target those precincts in Florida that created the most problems in 2000.

Yes, we might eventually set up a makeup election for the affected precincts, but, boy, what a shitstorm in the interim!

#115 DP111
What a terrifying and ugly idea that is.

To whomever is interested:
Someone (I'm losing track) posted a link to the following article by Jack Wheeler called the Myth of Mecca. The link did not work well for my machine. This happened once before, a couple of months ago I believe. Anyway, at that time I came across another link to the same article. So I thought I'd post it here for anyone else that might want it. The article is at NewsMax, and they have quite a good archive of Wheeler's articles.

The Myth of Mecca, Jack Wheeler
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

ploome hineni

I know ploome, as mentioned they are already here. Seems to me that james zogby has a brother, wonder what that brother of his does?...(rhetorical)

john zogby is the pollster I thought, BUT it does say 'pollster' after his name, maybe they are both in the propaganda polling business.

"Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good"

(Voltaire)

???

119 Azure

Yes, it is terrible to think such ugly thoughts. But that is the nature of the enemy. The more depressing thought is that it has led me, a liberal, to think such thoughts of my fellow human beings. It is a tragedy, that this enemy and his deeds, is beginning to drag people who are essentially kind and civilised, to the barbaric past. In momemts of calm, I'm concerned that even in our victory, we do not become the enemy we despise. But lets up that is not the price for victory.

G'night

#112 Psychobarb . . .

(Someone once commented that a neurosurgeon might have a field day dissecting the mind of Jewish leftist. Talk about voting against one's self interest!)

This is a new interest of mine. I've noticed way too many self-hating Jews and Jews who can't see what's good for them in the past few years.

If I were a college student, I would definitely find a way to write a paper on this subject. Is there something about Judaism or assimilated Judaism that causes this strange masochism?

It's definitely a serious phenomenon that should be looked into. I'm not joking here. I can't think of any other group that is so screwed up.

#119 - Azure

Great link - thank you.
Makes a lot of good points and reminds me of the mythologizing of the Christian story.

325 years after Christ's death, Helena, mother of Constantine (later St. Helena) went to the "Holy Land" in search of Jesus's history. There were no Jews in Jeruslaem as they had been dispersed so the Bedu and Arabs showed the Emperor's mother what she wanted to see and sent her home with the True Cross.

The Holy sites Christians visit today are the very same ones discovered by St. Helena fifteen generations after the death of their Savior.

Nazareth appears nowhere in history until the fourth century CE - not on Herod's tax rolls, not on Military Govenor of Galilee Jospehus ben Matthias's rolls and not on Roman tax rolls until then.

Is any of it important to the faithful?

Obviously not nor is the story of Mohammed and Mecca to the Moslems - the die has long been cast.

I see that uncle joe is only one troll; I had thought that there were 2; one is quite enough, and a profile that says: (sorry, my bad re thinking it was stealing a profile, on another thread where it really was even more trollish, and insulted and spit on 2 particularly respected and loved posters.

Uncle Joe, Always... Always Unclue Joe

really describes it perfectly...clueless!

Now fellow LGFers, please just *gaze*, and don't waste your breath on this dhummicrat tool.

Feeding it only encourages it. Starvation diet for it, please!

Uh, are trolls classified under 'cults'? Just curious.

BTW, where is Bigel??? Bigel, phone home!

NY Nana,

Have you ever seen the Flame Warriors site? Lots of LOL "troll" archetypes described and illustrated.

Plus, check the Jihadis to Philippines: Chop Chop! thread.

What, they left her head on? They're going soft.

#113, Struan

I was in Chu Lai back in '69 and the ammo dump explosion was still an topic of conversation. Early in '69 an 122mm rocket took out six armed and fueled jets, there were some impressive detonations but the short timers said the ammo dump blow-up was genuinely frightening.

Paul - I was gone by then. But, I started that night in a 60ft tower on the Chu-Lai Defense Command perimeter about a half a click from the dump. We later saw the crater. Every day since then, every sunrise has been pure gravy to me.

Curiosity demands I ask -

Why were six aircraft

a. clumped together so one rocket could take the all out

and

b. out of their revetments?

What kind of planes were they? F-4's. Skyraiders?

Hand shake and a salute, brudda. Pleased to meet you.

#124 struan al kufr
Certainly. Right; yup, indeed. Oh, the many books . . .
Don't forget to check some of Wheeler's other articles.

Good night DP111. You're all right for a liberal.

Now I'm trying to find where I saw an article about what the communists got up to after The Wall came down. There was something recently ... can't remember which site ... Maybe at FrontPageMag, or NRO, or ... Later.

#129 struan,

I don't know the specifics of the aircraft or why they were caught outside their revetments (the actual number destroyed was a matter of many rumors) . It happened about 7AM about a half mile from my hootch. We used to get rocketed regularly at about 3AM and 7AM and this was undoubtedly a lucky hit. It was almost comical, everyone grabbed their cameras and ran to the top of a nearby sand dune to take pictures. Whenever an explosion occured, everyone would run back down the dune and then back up after the immediate danger passed. I still have a couple of pictures.

I was with the 635MID attached to Division HQ.

OT: ..Watching Tina Browns show on CNBC..She is interviewing a very attractive modern AMERICAN..Arab Woman who made a ..Documentary..about Al Jeezera TV. Well long story short..she was just ever such a charming girl..never know she was Arab.---All America type...BUT one little teeny weeeny dif. This girl, very PR trained, knows what to say and what NOT to say OUT LOUD helped along by Tina, said essentially how terrible America was in condemning Al Jeezera..After all..America WANTS Democracy in the Arab World..and Al Jeezera is Democracy in Media in Action...YESSERRRIIEEE Bob.

Lovely talented Arab American Girl goes on to say that it is so unfair to criticize Al Jeezera and its programming since it is starting all SORTS of "democratic type" conversations in the Arab World that they have never had. (so that makes what AJ does in all its areas of operation..okkey dookey I guess).

There you are peeps. Heres your MODERATE MOSLEM that most of America is just dying to fall all over. OH..in her Documentary..this lovely Moderate Arab American Girl..does show..OUR forces roughing up those poor Iraqis...TUT..TUT..SHAME SHAME...so forth.

EH...Is whatherface...Tina Brown a Citizen of the US? OR is she just here kibbitzing in OUR biz.? OR is she rather a new Citizen able to kibbutz (in the--- turn our whole country around --sense of kibbitizing) but really shouldn't until she fucking*** pays her dues.

Heres what I always thought would happen. The Arab World would use Arab WOMEN to talk to the Western World..They have less of a stereotype "look" and they are less threatening to Westerners. Ive said..the trouble will come from Arab WOMEN. Just feel it. OR even better mixture of different kinds of Islamic WOMEN. Motherly looking..Very Attractive Looking..Whatever the Focus Groups vote on as getting the message across best. (Did you think they arent FOCUS GROUPED?) YEAH..course they are..Its a CAMPAIGN people.

#121 Geepers

Thanks! I will look it over tomorrow, I hope. We just got a call a little while ago. Our 2 year old granddaughter in NJ is sick, and we have to be there at 8 AM to take care of her. With the traffic in the NY-NJ area in the AM, we will be leaving here by 6-6:30 AM, so are off to sleep.

Poor baby, she was fine Saturday, and we were with her most of the day, and put her to sleep.

struan al kufr and Paul:

May G-d bless you both for your servcice to this great country!

Athletes, schmathletes...you are the real heroes!

And as for 'celebrities'? Feh!

G'nite all!

# 59 Swamp Woman

Damnation. I guess I better not take instructions on how to build a bomb on the internet. You just don't know who you can trust anymore.

Try the U.S. Army's Improvised Munitions Handbook, usually someone is selling it at a local gunshow.

Makes a great Christmas or Birthday present.

Seem to be quite a bite of religiously-motivated atrocities happening in South Asia at the moment: Men held over 'caste gang-rape'.

And if you're wondering whether caste is a religious thing: yes, it is, it's integral to Hinduism, though other religions have been able to adapt the concept just fine and it's not unknown for Muslims and Christians (and even Sikh's) to use the old 'caste' argument to commit violence against those they deem inferior.

#135 rampant atheist

LOL. You registered just to post that? Can't wait for further contributions ...

{yawn}

LOL. You registered just to post that? Can't wait for further contributions ...

What a warm welcome.

Here's another one: Police raid islamic school in frankfurt. Apparently the little dears had decapitation videos in the school library.

If she is Muslim, I expect the father to kill the girl because of the shame she brought on the family.

#137 rampant atheist

Any time.

#138 rampant atheist

What? Nothing about beheadings in Christian society??

#140

What? Nothing about beheadings in Christian society??

No, but it seems that fundamentalist Christians get away with stoning their children to death in Texas. OK, they aquitted her because she was insane, but isn't that a requirement if you want to become a fundamentalist Christian, Muslim, Sikh or whatever?

#141 rampant atheist

You chose your nick well.

Enjoy your stay.

Is that you, nodroG? Are the drugs wearing off?

LOL.

Hasn't that scumbag been banned yet?

#143 steve miller

Don't know who 'nodroG' is, but well met anyway.

wow, "guerrillas" and "militants"; the Washington Post service that the Miami Herald uses is currently floating "extremists" -- I'm not sure if that is milder or harsher than "activists." An activist holds signs, goes door to door.

The trouble with constantly seeking new words for "terrorist" or "murderer" is that you are going to taint all the words you use.

When AP/Reuters start saying -- "three cuddlebears captured a girl and cut off her head", then the term cuddlebears will be tainted.

Mariam/Miriam is a popular name in Islime since Moh got the word that she was both the sister of Moses and Jesus' mother. The fact that the latter lived about 1,500 years after the former hasn't penetrated Islam yet. Moh claims that he is right and that sly Torah scholars have rewritten the Bible just to make the illiterate, lying, homicidal, pedophilic, maniac look stupid.