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Palestinian Child Abuse

Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 2:46:26 pm PDT

A Palestinian boy holds a fake machine-gun during a rally organized by the militant group Islamic Jihad in Gaza City, Saturday, July 17, 2004. ... The writing in the cap reads in Arabic ‘ No God but God and Mohammed is the Prophet of Allah’. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa)

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1 Sir Lurksalot  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 12:53:34pm

It's a fake gun.

He's a moderate.

2 DP111  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 12:58:02pm

OT

Al Qaeda's reply to the Saudi ultimatum to AQ, to surrender in a month

Jihad is a Principle of Faith That Flows in Our Blood and Gushes From Our Hearts"

[Link: memri.org...]

Demented and blood curdling.
Reading this response, one gets the feeling that Jihadis are mad dogs or worse, and should be treated in the manner one employs with such creatures.

3 Michael  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:00:52pm

Nagging question:
Who manufactures these toy guns, and shouldn't our human rights-loving friends be organizing a boycott against that company?

4 asgeir  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:01:16pm

OT

a nice quote from guardian:

Mr Roed-Larsen normally travels in an armoured BMW with a single bodyguard to protect him from Israeli as well as Palestinian militants.


poor Mr. Larsen.

(note also whose militants are more important and are mentioned first)

5 Powderfinger  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:02:42pm

Since when are Israeli militants active and a threat to foreigners?

6 Paco from Sefarad  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:05:41pm

Footage of these kids marching and drilling is being shown on Spanish TV reports with no comment about them being kids, as if it was perfectly normal. The constant mantra about poor repressed Paleostinians not having Apaches, F14s and tanks to fight with seems to have become universally accepted as justification.

DEBKAfile has an interesting take on the "chaos" in Gaza.

Arafat Rides Three Kidnappings Back to Domination of the Gaza Strip

7 Erica Marceau  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:05:59pm

'No God but God and Mohammed is the Prophet of Allah'

Shouldn't it be 'No god but Allah' instead? We have those terrorists called anything but what they really are and we have the Jewish/Christian God said in the same breath as the 'Prophet of Allah.' Both disgust me.

8 Radian  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:07:14pm

6

The upshot is that the we could give the palis advanced arms and they would still be murderous people, using children to fight. They are slime.

9 ördög Johnson  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:07:38pm

OT
9-11 attackers tied to Saudi security forces?

According to one assessment under review, some of the 9-11 attackers stemmed from Saudi security agencies, particularly the National Guard, headed by Crown Prince Abdullah Bin Abdul Aziz.

...

[Saudi analyst] Yamani focuses on 10 of the attackers who came from the southern mountainous region of Asir.

Many of the members of the National Guard and Saudi Interior Ministry forces come from Asir, which contains tribes loyal to the royal family.

One of the 9-11 hijackers particularly intrigues Yamani. He is Hamza Al Ghamdi.

Yamani asserts there are more than 6,000 Ghamdis in the Saudi security forces.

10 BattleofthePyramids  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:07:53pm

These kids will be using real weapons soon enough. Jus wait a couple of years, they will have their own RPG's, AK's, etc. All part of Arafish's plan to have an army to "liberate Jerusalem".

Of course, child soldiers violate international law, and of course, Europe will protest vigorously, any minute now...

//sarcasm.

"We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing our children to kill" - Golda Meir.

Can ANYONE, here at LGF, tell me why the Palestinians love to use children as cannon fodder? When Egypt, Syria, et al attacked Israel, at least they sent grown men to war.

11 Sta-Puft  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:08:31pm

If Islamic Jihad isn't careful, they're going to loose their Kalishnikov endorsement deal.

12 selpaw  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:09:06pm
'No God but God and Mohammed is the Prophet of Allah’.

Thank you AP.


I needed that translation/

13 RC neo-Jew  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:09:44pm

#5 Powderfinger

Since when are Israeli militants active and a threat to foreigners?

Palestinian lie no. 1,200,064: "but the Israeli Government commits acts of terrorism, too, by defending itself".

As militant = terrorist, he is obviously in need of protection from wall-builders.

14 ördög Johnson  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:15:03pm

#10 BattleofthePyramids 7/17/2004 03:07PM PST

Of course, child soldiers violate international law, and of course, Europe will protest vigorously, any minute now...

You've forgotten...

[crickets]

15 Paco from Sefarad  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:15:30pm

#10 BattleofthePyramids

Can ANYONE, here at LGF, tell me why the Palestinians love to use children as cannon fodder?

So that when they get shot by some reluctant Israeli soldier the world's press can yell, "Israeli troops kill (insert age here - preferably younger than 18) Palestinian child!"

16 Radian  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:17:08pm

15

That is exactly right.

17 Mashiki  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:21:01pm

Beautiful...such a lovely image. So when does he get his "Jihad Training Certificate"? Ugh. No...they are not training these kids to be members of 'society' they are training them to be killers.

So where is the international condemnation? I thought I heard crickets.

Anyway, I may not be kickin' for awhile. Seems like a rather nice storm is about to roll into the area and have some fun with the hydro. My UPS' have already kicked in twice. Cheers all.

18 Paco from Sefarad  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:22:40pm

Remember that boy bomber?

JR: Some teenagers want to be footballers, others want to be singers. You wanted to be a suicide bomber. Why?

Hussam: It's not suicide - it's martyrdom.

I would become a martyr and go to my God. It's better than being a singer or a footballer. It's better than everything.

JR: What was the main reason for you deciding to become a suicide bomber? The one reason in particular.

Hussam: The reason was because my friend was killed.

The second reason I did it is because I didn't want to go to school.

My parents forced me to go to school and I didn't feel like going.

19 zulubaby  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:36:58pm

Michael (#3)

Who manufactures these toy guns, and shouldn't our human rights-loving friends be organizing a boycott against that company?

The "humanitarians" are too busy being kidnapped to actually be effective.

20 Smokey  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:46:05pm

#19 Zulubaby

I find it incredibly ironic that a terrorist state such as the palastinians capture some 'humanitarians' and release them less than 24 hours. Kind of ironic that they wait long enough to get positive press and then release their french friends eh?

21 john5z  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:46:14pm

Gee, my kids are JUST playing little league and soccer and going boogy boarding. I hope they don't see the fun there going to miss. Oh wait, they're too young to dream of virgins.

22 zulubaby  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:51:42pm

Smokey, Arafat and the UN intervened and insisted that they release the hostages. See how effective they are!? Puke. They all make me sick.

23 Delta Burka  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:52:08pm

#21, john5Z

Gee, my kids are JUST playing little league and soccer and going boogy boarding. I hope they don't see the fun there going to miss. Oh wait, they're too young to dream of virgins.

Dream on Dad - there never too young. LOL!

24 Smokey  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 1:55:46pm

#22 Zulubaby

I couldn't agree more...

25 Spiritualized  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 2:15:52pm

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A poll conducted by Islamic University of 1,000 youngsters between the ages of 9 and 16 showed that 49 percent said they had participated in anti-Israel violence and 73 percent expressed a desire to die martyrs. Not surprisingly, some children have been blown up in the process of detonating or planting bombs.

A. Dershowitz, 'The Case For Israel', Wiley, 2003, p. 129


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[A] 13 year-old suicide bomber is just as dangerous as a 25 year-old, and Israel has the same right of self-defense against both. The only way to end the killing of youths and women by Israeli soldiers and police is for the Palestinians to stop using them as terrorists. But this is unlikely, because the terrorist leaders have made a cruel calculation: their cause benefits every time an Israeli soldier kills a Palestinian child or woman. They have gone even gone so far as to place their bomb making factories adjacent to kindergartens and elementary schools so that if Israel were to attack the factories, they would kill children. The placement of these dangerous factories also exposes the children to the risk of accidental death.

The United States too had to change it's rules of engagement after the Iraqis used an apparently pregnant woman as a terrorist. United States soldiers had to begin checking woman more intrusively and occasionally shooting at cars that were running checkpoints. These are the tragic but unnavoidable costs of protecting people against terrorism, especially when women and children are used as human bombs.

A. Dershowitz, 'The Case For Israel', Wiley, 2003, p. 132.


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Excellent book by the way, highly recommended.

26 ördög Johnson  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 2:22:29pm

#23 Delta Burka

I dunno, this virgin thing seemed to me always a bit overrated. Maybe it is cultural. Me being of Slavic roots... There was this thing old Slavs had regarding virginity--if a girl was a virgin, she was not at the top of the marriage desirability roster, because it was apparent no one felt the urge to deflore her at an sexually active age.

27 ördög Johnson  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 2:29:24pm

#25 Spiritualized 7/17/2004 04:15PM PST

A poll conducted by Islamic University of 1,000 youngsters between the ages of 9 and 16 [snip] 73 percent expressed a desire to die martyrs.

This would sound probably calous and cynical... but is there any way we could be of service to enable them achieve this goal without innocent bystanders being involved?

My position has a darwinian aspect and humanitarian aspect, as well.

Deprograming so many Molech cult adherents is not possible, no matter how I turn the problem around.

28 Biff O'Hara  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 2:30:54pm

No doubt a very stern looking K Annan will put on his serious face and say that Palestinians should be striving for peace.

He will make that statement as soon as the cocktail hour is over.

30 ActivistChat.com  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 3:19:01pm

The indoctrination of these poor innocent children will end once these fanatical tyrants are removed from power once and for all! It started with Saddam - but will end with the Mullahs in Iran, Syrian Dictatorship..etc.. the list goes on.. Can't wait till Iranians are free to speak their minds and go after the bloody fanatics themselves.. They will Iranian people will trap the fanatics on the border of Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan with the help of Coalition...

31 transferthem  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 3:40:18pm

This is why I believe that the only protection for Israel is transfer of all arabs to arab countires.

The abuse of these young minds has set an indelible stain that cannot be removed. It means that no peace is possible as the enemy will always remember how it was raised from childhood to hate and kill Jews. But if the stain can't be removed, the arab population will have to be.

32 Spiritualized  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 3:53:11pm

@ #29 - great cartoon, reminds me of this one:

This.. Is.. Yasser.. Arafat's.. Last.. Chance..

33 Spiny Norman  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 4:13:11pm

Look familiar?

Ooh! Look! Flaming Hoops, too!

34 Spiny Norman  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 4:17:29pm

Most of what Google finds seems to be Nazi memorabilia sites (which I will not link) or worse, Indymedia-like crap of Hitlerjugend posters with Hitler replaced with George W. Bush. Oh how cute...

35 Julia the Horrible  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 4:39:49pm

I remember being a kid back in the 50's and every little boy I knew had a gun and a holster and a cowboy hat, and acted out shooting imaginary Indians and bad guys. Yes, killing people, 1000's of them a day.

Wielding guns is a boy's fantasy, and not restricted to any religious or political group. As long as their are guns, boys will take them up and play with them. We make a lot out of this, but really, let's face it, its not "abnormal" for a boy to want to play with a gun. Its just boys being boys.

I agree that that the Palis maximize on this, but let's not blame the little boys. They are just doing what comes natural to them. If there weren't guns, they'd be playing with swords or bows and arrows or slingshots or some damn thing.

Its a guy thing.

36 Jack  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 4:41:09pm

#12 selpaw:

The writing in the cap reads in Arabic ' No God but God and Mohammed is the Prophet of Allah'. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa)


Typical Muslim greeting is: "There is no God but God and Mohammed is His prophet.", after we are finished with them, the greeting will be: "There is no God but God even if Mohammed is not his prophet"

37 WriterMom  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 4:49:52pm

Argh! I feel like writing a letter to the wire services with the following:

REAL REAL REAL REAL REAL GUNS

NOT FAKE OR TOYS YOU STUPID IDIOTS.

Do you think it's too subtle?

38 gbl  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 4:58:04pm

What, no plastic AK's at JihadRUs in Gaza? Now I why they're so bitter. Also notice the red tip at end of barrel. I guess even Palestinian's have laws that govern "safe" toys. How cute!

39 EE  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 5:11:14pm

#35 Julia the Horrible
Does this look like child's play, or does it look like organized indoctrination?
In child's play, they don't normally wear uniforms and stand in line drilling.

Islamic Jihad, which specializes in splodeydope operations, has given the kids some cool caps, with the Shehada on it, and the black color of the jihad flag. They are incubating tomorrow's suicide-bombers, by romanticizing their death-cult ideology.

There is brainwashing into death-cult ideology going on here, to deprive the kids of their childhood and perhaps in a few years of their lives.

Islamic Jihad is said to be funded largely by Iran. Even though the members of Islamic Jihad are Sunni Muslims, they are attracted to the ideology of Khomeinism, it has been reported.

40 Zwicker  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 6:13:48pm

Maybe I'm a little leery, but I wouldn't get within a mile of this kid to determine whether that gun is actually fake.

41 its jake  Sat, Jul 17, 2004 7:10:06pm

Awww, it just brings tears to your eyes, how quick our little boys grow up!

42 shimra  Sun, Jul 18, 2004 1:34:09am

Palestinian kids blow up so fast.


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