Censorship?

Damn! America needs to hear this "potential" first lady (that ain't no lady) speak!

Shovegate?

Does this mean that they are shoving it?

I'm trying to get all this political stuff straightened out in my head so
I'll know how to vote come November. Right now, we have one guy
saying one thing. Then the other guy says something else. Who to
believe. Lemme see, have I got this straight?

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good...
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists
- good...
Bush liberates 25 mi! llion from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good...
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad...

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

Clinton says mass graves in Serbia - good...
Entire world says WMD in Iraq - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
No WMD found Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
Economy slows under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...

Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good...
Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good...
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
Saddam turned ov! er for trial - bad...

Ah, it's so confusing!

Does this mean that they are shoving it?

Nope. It means they are shoveling it. Lot's of it.

Does Valium come in a time release patch?

They should keep a few dozen glued to her ass until November.

ABC, NBC and CBS have decided to draw the curtain on Teresa’s big night, cancelling live coverage of tonight’s proceedings altogether, as fears mount among Democrats that Heinz Kerry is a loose cannon who either bores audiences with her slow monotonous drone or shocks them by talking about her Botox injections and other indelicate topics.

This might be totally unrelated to Shoveitgate. The Nielson ratings for last night's convention coverage were disasterous. The networks may be looking to avoid an entire week of lousy ratings.

How will Tuh-RAY-za win the all important Ladies Home Journal cookie recipe contest if the American people aren't exposed to her warm charms?

The networks may be looking to avoid an entire week of lousy ratings.

I'm sorry, I meant to say "The networks may begin scaling back their coverage of the Democratic Convention to avoid an entire week of lousy ratings."

She's being repressed. Now you can see the violence inherent in the system.

Why would the networks want to do that. The various speakers spoke of the importance of first ladies and the VP wives last nite, referring to Hillary and Tipper in the past and Teresa and Edwards' wife in the future.

Now, they're sticking a sock in Teresa's mouth by turning to other subjects when her speech comes up?

Interesting.

Is this the so-called 'conservative' press that is shoving a ballgag in Teresa's mouth? Nope - it's the mainstream press that is doing it - ostensibly for other reasons, but really to keep her firebrand comments and persona out of the firing line by real conservative media outlets that would have a field day showing all of her neuroses, hatred of Ted Kennedy, and of the lower classes - not to mention her classlessness and crass behavior.

Oh, and the polling data is showing that the Kerry boat has taken on some serious leaks pre Convention - [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

This response from the media reminds me of a quote from TNG that sounds like a good counter to Teresa's "Shove it" line.

"Muzzle it!"

That doesn't smack of the networks abetting the Dems much, does it?

Is is just CBS or do all the non-Fox networks have exclusive interviews lined up with Ms. H-K?

BTW, nice list #5.

what's so indelicate about Botox?

What a riot!!! Girlie men, scared of their own, "first lady"!!!

Oh, well, it's a done deal folks...she keeps stickin' her Gucci ladin' foot in her mouth and the Johns will surely be flushed!!!

Good God, can you imagine this woman as First lady?
She's as unpredictable as my Aunt Ruth after a half gallon of Ernest & Julio Chablis...Only Aunt Ruth has the excuse of being drunk.

Oh damn...I was looking forward to not watching anyway...I'll just read about this conviction...umm convention online.

And have NO FEAR...mrs. ketchup will explode before this election and several times no doubt.

If the loonies have their way...this may be the first time the U.S. has 'the First Bitch'. Won't those parties look elegant, with those ketchup bottles next to the beluga caviar?

I believe Al Jezzeera will be carrying her live.

Dirk Diggler (#8),

Ya know that's an interesting take, because the MMM are ratings whores.

Now what realistic reason is there that they aren't hyping this to the nines?

"Teresa "SHOVE IT" Kerry, LIVE Tonight in a WWF DNC cage match! See her RUMBLE ! Only on N B C.

I wonder if they will even print the text. I guess it is not newsworthy and we have no right to know. Unbelievable.

The three networks are shamelessly partisan, as is much of Big Media. That's why I don't trust any of the Bush-Kerry poles. It's in the media's interest poles results are tight, whether to encourage Kerryites, or to generate more interest in the elections, which equals income to the media.

Remeber how one or more network called the Florida elections for Gore in 2000. Never entirely trust the news. They'd lie to you as soon as talk to you (quite the same, actually). I bet they'll try this dirty tactic again this year.

#20 Elcid

If the loonies have their way...this may be the first time the U.S. has 'the First Bitch'. Won't those parties look elegant, with those ketchup bottles next to the beluga caviar?

HEY! You give Hillary the RESPECT she demands! She was the first bitch, dammit!

what's so indelicate about Botox?

I dunno what's indelicate about botox. After all, we watch people's T and A's be lifted on Discovery Health Plastic Surgery every freakin' week.

Maybe she was goin' to show us her lift and enlargement.

Why she was given a slot to begin with is something of a mystery. Well, not really. She and George Soros have too much money to ignore. That's all that counts to the Dems.

Love though how it is that they so readily enlist the aid of the networks in blotting her out. She'll get her bought and paid for speech. The Dems conspire with the networks to be sure it is hidden from the public. The mainstream media is a trillion dollar campaign contribution to the Dems, and they get to spin it all their way for 60 days up to the election. And no one is allowed to challlege them without going to jail.

The First Amendement died with McCain Feingold.

Swamp Woman

Sorry, you are correct, but tuh rayza is a bitch in 5 languages...:).

I've yet to hear any of the networks accurately report Teresa's run-in. As in they refuse to mention that she did clearly say "un-American" and then turned around and denied it, and attacked a reporter for asking her about it. Disgusting.

#8 Dirk Diggler: I don't get it. Aren't the conventions shown commercial-free? So while low ratings aren't good, it isn't like the networks are losing any money. And they've already paid to arrange everything around Boston. Now I could see this as a reason to cite for dropping coverage next time around, but not pulling the plug now.

You have to admit having Teresa Kerry as First Lady would make things interesting. My impression, for what it's worth, is that she isn't bitchy as much as detached and bored by being a political wife.

Will Fox carry Mrs. kerry's speech?

I think the new spin is to say she said, "Shove off!"

I'm curious to see how this one goes.

ROFLLMAO!

A little payback for her "Shove it!" remark to a fellow member of the media? Or just protecting their buddies in the DNC?

Why don't they just cancel all the media coverage? The whole thing is becoming a joke, what with all the speeches being vetted by the Kerry camp to edit all out all the speakers' real feelings.

Since there won't be any TV coverage tonight, how about reruns of "Whose Line Is It, Anyway?"?

Like I said yesterday, the Dems are Hiding In Plain Sight.

Do remember to take good notes, folks, as there will be test on what the ranting bitch has to say come November. And, no doubt, she'll bark out a few things that'll go further to bury Kerry's chances of election.

Hmm, THK doing more damage to her husband's compaign in one week than any "Bush propoganda" has done in a year...ah, how I love the taste of irony.

This is going to be like the 1972 election, if Richard Nixon had been married to Martha Mitchell.

Here's something else to consider model4:

During the summer, there are lower ratings to begin with and the networks are full-tilt into their replay and retreads of shows previously broadcast.

Heck, CSI Miami did better than the Convention. Either the public didn't particularly care what the Gore's, Carter's, and Clinton's of the DNC had to say, or Horatio Caine trying to figure out who murdered Professor Plum in the den with the magnifying glass while Ms. Scarlett slowly comes under suspicious and we know that the butler did it was perceived to be better entertainment.

I guess if the conventions went up against Survivor, they'd be the ones voted off the island. And who said that the American electorate wasn't smart. Most folks can see the bsometer pegged off the scale every four years. Some folks can be sucked in by the charm offensive. Yet, with this batch, we can see that they just suck and are offensive.

So while low ratings aren't good, it isn't like the networks are losing any money. And they've already paid to arrange everything around Boston. Now I could see this as a reason to cite for dropping coverage next time around, but not pulling the plug now.

Are they losing money? So much of that I think revolves around the networks contractual obligations, whatever those are. Maybe the networks have a ratings floor that cancels their obligation to cover certain aspects of the convention. I can't say. It may be the question of "opportunity costs" (butt numbingly boring covention coverage vs. re-runs of Manimal). Maybe the networks can make more money reverting to prime time programming. They certainly can't score any lower in the ratings.

No...you're all wrong. Ms. Kerry was giving a lecture on astronomy, specifically on the planet between Saturn and Neptune.

Great comment, Michael (#5). I shall be linking to that anon.

Did the networks delay showing Clinton's speech? Last night Yahoo had pics and comments of Hilary and Bill's speeches before they were shown on msnbc. Why are they doing this?

Drudge links to a Boston Herald column [Link: news.bostonherald.com...] in which, in a 1975 interview,Teresa refers to the Democratic machine as "putrid" and Ted the K as a "bastard." Juicy stuff. Drudge also has a photo of Michael Moore sitting i--who else's?--Jimmah Carter's box.

LOL! Kinda on topic...

KERRY SHOVES BACK

The famously off-the-cuff Heinz Kerry is scheduled to address the delegates tonight. At the Kennedy Center, her husband violated the cardinal rule of politics — getting his picture taken in a ridiculous outfit.

Visiting the space shuttle Discovery, Kerry donned dust-free overalls that made him resemble the sperm cells in Woody Allen's "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid To Ask)."

/wiping the tears off

#18
Hope you corrected the typos.

OT: I don’t care if your pro-life or pro-choice, but when did this become a fashion statement... [Link: shop.store.yahoo.com...]

Nice to see the fearless watchdog mainstream media working hand-in-glove with the Democrats to elect Kerry.

No media bias here, matter o' fact there's nothing to see here at all, move along.

Sarah -

LOL! I can't believe that's actually in print!

She's saucy! She's spicy! And she has 57 personalities! Does it get any better?

Why are all you right wingers so afraid of women?? Must be a religious thing...the islamists have the same problem.

^^Desert Thom^^ seems to be a newbie.

OT but still about the DNC.

Get a load of these moonbats in "the protest pens":

Pen has ‘antis’ up in arms

Are those Fruit of The Loom T-Shirts they have on their heads?

#39 Frank IBC

This is going to be like the 1972 election, if Richard Nixon had been married to Martha Mitchell.

Oh, that was cruel. And very, very, funny. Coffee spews on the monitor, again! '72 was the first election in which I voted.

For the slightly younger LGF population: You would have to have been there to fully appreciate the contrast between Pat Nixon and Martha.

If she really didn't want to be first lady, why didn't just pull a Mrs. Ditka, and tell John that if he ran for prez, that she would divorce him?

The thought of losing all that ketchup (catsup?) money might have made him think twice.

Oh well, they'll just have to pack her off to St. Tropez until Nov. 3.

#55 American Infidel

Well, if that's the case, I don't give him/her/it long.

#51 Desert Thom

Why are all you right wingers so afraid of women?? Must be a religious thing...the islamists have the same problem.

Right-wingers...afraid of women? The only thing that we fear from this woman is a vicious animal attack.

It would seem, in this case, that it is left-wingers that are afraid of a woman. They're afraid letting her mouth off on national TV will do irrepairable damage to Kerry's campaign and so are having the liberal media pull the plug. We of the "right-wing" are merely sitting here, rolling our eyes, shaking our heads, and snickering over how their "fear of women" is overriding her "freedom of speech."

J.D.,

Ya think?

And what was the thread the other day where some stooge kept referring to you as him/he? It makes the argument secondary to the gaff. And it helps when their is no argument at all. :-)

The Dems had a fit when Cheney told Sen. Patrick Leahy to F--K himself...Get a grip!

The Dems had a cow when Arnold called them "girlie-men...c'mon get a grip.

Likewise, the GOP has a grand mal when Theresa Kerry tells the Papparazzi...also GET A GRIP. Aren't there more important things to whine about.

Didn't they cancel coverage on Laura Bush in 2000?

'Grand mal'... is that Dhimmicrat for 'fits of laughter'?

#51 Desert Tom

Why are all you right wingers so afraid of women?? Must be a religious thing...the islamists have the same problem.

T.H.K. ain't no woman...

This - is a woman!

#51 Dessert Thom
Hey, I like women. Strong women, especially. THK is something else, however. I think she is truly the "mouth that roared." And I for one want to hear every word she speaks. And I want everyone to hear her, too.

Is JFK a man of the people? Between he and THK they have more wealth than the other three candidates (Bush, Chaney, and slick, er, Edwards) combined.

Re Sara D. at 46 said:

Visiting the space shuttle Discovery, Kerry donned dust-free overalls that made him resemble the sperm cells in Woody Allen's "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid To Ask)."

I am John Spermy - Take me to your Uterus!!!

#59 Geepers

My charming little buddy petesey?

Likewise, the GOP has a grand mal when Theresa Kerry tells the Papparazzi...also GET A GRIP.

Well she didn't just tell them to GET A GRIP. It was more like GET A GRIP, FIND AN ORIFICE, AND INSERT WITH GREAT FORCE! Words to that effect anyway.

Here's a truly great woman, Desert Thom.

Teresa Heinz is just a lucky gold digger with a big mouth.

Hey - let's make this a gender free discussion because John Kerry's going to shut down his tv campaign in August. He's muzzling himself.

[Link: news.ft.com...]

John Kerry's election team is to suspend advertising during August, opening itself to what it expects will be a barrage of attacks from the Bush-Cheney campaign.

After a debate with his senior advisers, Mr Kerry has opted to "go dark" in the weeks after the Democratic National Convention to conserve limited federal funds for the weeks immediately before the November 2 election.

The decision was a "risky step", Mary Beth Cahill, the Kerry campaign manager, acknowledged yesterday.

The Kerry campaign hopes that the convention, which opened in Boston yesterday amid boasts of unprecedented party unity and discipline, will help introduce Mr Kerry to an electorate that feels it knows little about him.

The Democrats will still be able to get a pro-Kerry message on the air in the coming weeks, as the party and allied groups can still buy airtime. But the campaign is not going to be able to control the message or the media spending directly.

Interesting scenario. It lets the fringes, like MoveOn, take their potshots against Bush without getting Kerry in the crossfire - plausible deniability. Kerry also does better when he's out of the media spotlight (curious - maybe people who know him and know about him don't like him).

So, the muzzling of Teresa is just part of the Kerry silent campaign for the White House.

A Tereyzuh - Ann Coulter debate might be kinda cool.

60 Desert Thom 7/27/2004 09:06AM PST
The Dems had a fit when Cheney told Sen. Patrick Leahy to F--K himself...Get a grip!

"The Dems had a cow when Arnold called them "girlie-men...c'mon get a grip.

Likewise, the GOP has a grand mal when Theresa Kerry tells the Papparazzi...also GET A GRIP. Aren't there more important things to whine about. "

Cheney never lied about what he said.
Arnold never lied about what he said.
Theresa lied about what she said.
She is more democrat than even she knows.

#60. Desert Thom. You got some kind of problem with the press? Come on, spit it out, do you find their coverage shallow?

#63 Tenring

I haven't read The Case Against Lawyers by CATHERINE CRIER but I plan too now that you pointed it out. I hope it's a fair assessment. Thanks for the heads up

Solomon X

Thanks! I was fixing to search for that pic!

Just because one has money, doesn't mean one has class.

And it's something one can't buy.

#74 American Infidel:

That would depend on your meaning of "is" and "flip-flop."

/borrowing from Clinton (not George)

#70 Frank IBC

A Tereyzuh - Ann Coulter debate might be kinda cool.

I'd pay good money for a front row seat at that one!

Ann Coulter rocks! I'd crawl over broken glass and hot coals for miles just to sniff the tires on the laundry truck that delivered her torture head gear to Abu Ghraib.

J.D.,

My charming little buddy petesey?

That's it. We do have fun though don't we?

Mr Pol,

'Grand mal'... is that Dhimmicrat for 'fits of laughter'?

LOL.

Why is it that the most ignorant tent to talk loudest?

#28 SwampWoman

I dunno what's indelicate about botox. After all, we watch people's T and A's be lifted on Discovery Health Plastic Surgery every freakin' week.

No kidding. They're getting carried away with this stuff. The other day some skanky woman was getting a butt augmentation, so she'd look better in pictures for truck magazines. Sheesh.

Next week TLC is starting a plastic surgery series called BodyWork. Can you say, "Let's run this into the ground?"

#5 the angel michael

Excellent post!

I think it's ironic that Fox will carry it. They've been covering more of the Dem convention than the LLL tools in the mainscream media have.

I suppose there's a good reason for it...'nothing to see here, move along, watch reruns'.

#79 Geepers

Why is it that the most ignorant tend to talk loudest?

The less butter you use, the longer it takes to spread it on a toast...

#74

That means Heinz-Kerry said it, denied she said it, and then got pissed off and advised the reporter to 'shove it' because she was caught in a flagrant lie...

since you're talking about the democrats, it would depend on the what the meaning of IT is. Hey, they don't lie. And if they do, it's because they have our best interests in their hearts. We should just trust them because they are smarter than we are. So, if THK gets caught in a lie, just fuggedaboutit.

Now, if a Republican tells a lie, well, then, it's okay to hound them out of office. Or their spouse, too.

#51 Desert Thom:

LOL! Yup, we're just petrified of strong, smart, powerful women like TuhRayZA and Shrillary.

OTOH, we just have those wallflowers Phyllis Schafly and Anne Coulter, not to mention shrinking-violets like Condi Rice and Karen Hughes.

GAZE

#85 Golem Akbar

Ah, yes... and telling exactly what you're going to do, and then doing it, is a lie, too.

TLC is starting a plastic surgery series called BodyWork

Or why not have a combination of BodyWork and Jackass, with people performing liposuction on themselves with a knife and a vacuum cleaner?

#60 Desert Thom

There's a difference...

The first was said in a private conversation and the media blew it out of proportion. There were no attempts by Cheney or the Bush Administration to claim that the reports were lies. On the contrary, Cheney went before the press and admitted he said such words to Leahy.

The second was a case of a speech by Arnold to the voters in an attempt to stir up public disgust at how his political opponents are making every attempt to screw up his time in office. He has never denied saying such words and has even stated to the press that he will not apologize for the words said.

The last was a confrontation as the result of a member of the press calling Teresa's bluff. When the reporter attempted to get her to elaborate on what she meant when she said "un-American," she tried to call the man a liar. When he refused to back down and stated he had proof of her words, she first determined he was a member of the conservative press, then told him to "Shove it."

The difference between the first two cases and the third? When a politician on the right gets caught for words they say, they admit it. When a person on the left gets caught, they immediatly scream "lies!" and attack the person contradicting them.

#88 Frank IBC

I wonder what the Jackass version of 'enlarge your penis' would be...

What's up everybody, OT but check this out

Google Joe Wilson

Look in the upper right hand corner

It says

Joe Wilson Endorsed Kerry
for President- Find Out Why

This used to be a statement by Joe Wilson explaining why he endorsed Kerry.

Now it's just a fund raising form.

Google won't let you bury anything. I love it.

Restore Honesty my ass.

What's up everybody, OT but check this out

Google Joe Wilson

Look in the upper right hand corner

It says

Joe Wilson Endorsed Kerry
for President- Find Out Why

This used to be a statement by Joe Wilson explaining why he endorsed Kerry.

Now it's just a fund raising form.

Google won't let you bury anything. I love it.

Restore Honesty my ass.

Theresa:

She's devoted (to someone).

She still calls John Heinz "my husband" and doesn't always correct herself -- "my late husband" -- even when Kerry is around. She still wears the blue sapphire engagement ring that Heinz gave her.

She's charming (nothing like making fun of PTSD).

Part of Heinz's charm is that she has no patience for this. When Kerry is asked about the nightmares that haunted his sleep for years after he returned from Vietnam, he shrugs. "I don't think I've had a nightmare in a long time," he says. But then Heinz begins to mimic Kerry having a Vietnam nightmare.
"Down! Down, down!" she yells, patting her hands down on her auburn hair.

But deep down, she's just shy.

She speaks of how her oldest son, John IV, started "hating her" two years ago, when his daughter was born. (He declined to comment.) She also talks about how shy she is.

What's up everybody, OT but check this out

Google Joe Wilson

Look in the upper right hand corner

It says

Joe Wilson Endorsed Kerry
for President- Find Out Why

This used to be a statement by Joe Wilson explaining why he endorsed Kerry.

Now it's just a fund raising form.

Google won't let you bury anything. I love it.

Restore Honesty my ass.

Mr. Pol -

Hmmm...on the advertising signs at the convention, I'll be on the lookout for...

Haha, Urs R 2 Small For Ur Woman, No?

What's up everybody, OT but check this out

Google Joe Wilson

Look in the upper right hand corner

It says

Joe Wilson Endorsed Kerry
for President- Find Out Why

This used to be a statement by Joe Wilson explaining why he endorsed Kerry.

Now it's just a fund raising form.

Google won't let you bury anything. I love it.

Restore Honesty my ass.

HotBrownSandwich -

OK, OK, we get your point.

I notice Couric 's interview (Today show NBC) with Theresa Kerry did not show the entire clip of Mrs. Kerry and the reporter. They only showed the last part. The part showing what she said in her speech nor her first encounter with the reporter were shown. Snow job folks. Whitewash. They don't want the women who watch to see the entire truth. Half truths will work if no one is out there to tell the whole truth. MSNBC is airing the interview and making it seem like a charming incident with Kerry portrayed as an innocent victim displaying courage.

#97 HotBrownSandwich

Will you please stop that? Not only you repeated the same thing 4 times, but you never included a link.

#87 Mr Pol

and telling exactly what you're going to do, and then doing it, is a lie, too.

RIGHT. You can't do that as a democrat. It's not allowed. Remember, the democrat party is the party of the lawyers.

Whoa, sorry bout that, folks. I was getting an error
and didn't think...ah never mind.

#79, Geepers

Hey, bud. Have I driven my car into the ditch on this one? Why is it every time I hear the word Democrat it sounds like Dumb or Fat?

Teresa Kerry. I can only repeat my observations from a thread a few weeks back when she was on Larry King:

I watched the show with morbid fascination. Teresa's like a test pilot for Lily Roche or something. When asked a question (like WTF for, Larry, really?), she sucks in a big hit of air, then starts rambling, all the while Her Hairdid, looks on with a combination of fear and loathing! She would be a total liability to anyone decent. Planet-wise, where's she from?

Well, could be a worse First Lady for the White House. If my husband had ever run for government office and aspired that high, he'd have had to divorce my ass or we'd have things like me sayin' "Hey Joe! Shoot that sumbitch for me, wouldja?" "I'm sorry, Ms. SwampWoman, but we in the secret service are not authorized to shoot Mr. Chirac." "The hell you say? That MoFo got spit all OVER my fingers. And call me Swamp, otherwise I'll think you talkin' to my mama in law." Silence. Thinking. "Hey, Joe! What kinda revolver you got there? How 'bout lettin' me hold it fer a minute?" "Ms. SwampWoman, President SwampMan instructed us that under no circumstances are we to let you near a weapon when there are French People around." "Well, shit. Did he mention blunt objects?"

Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds (#89),

and attack the person contradicting them.

As per Desert(er) Thom's

Likewise, the GOP has a grand mal when Theresa Kerry tells the Papparazzi...

Desert Thom, I think you left off that he was also from a "right wing rag".

HEY! Isn't that ~censorship~!?!

Ha, this "new DNC" fest is already a bomb and it's only Tuesday morning.

I was so hoping that Howard Dean was going to get the nomination because his meltdowns are so entertaining. I guess Teresa is the next best thing. But I won't be watching her convention speech on Fox or CSPAN. She's at her best unscripted, when some unsuspecting reporter notices an inconvenient truth.

Hmm, and wasn't it Hillary that was blackballed from speaking at the convention just last week? At least until people started pointing out how wrong that looked, and then was given the job of "Introducing hubby." Strange folks, these Dems.

#99 riverofpearls 7/27/2004 09:31AM PST

"I notice Couric 's interview (Today show NBC) with Theresa Kerry did not show the entire clip of Mrs. Kerry and the reporter"

Here is link:

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

#90, Mr Pol

I wonder what the Jackass version of 'enlarge your penis' would be...

I have a feeling it involves the back of Teresa's, ahem, word processor, just south of the wisdom teeth.

Question for the group: "Making every vote count," is one of the key refrains of the democrats as the convention (Both Clinton and Gore used the phrase in their speeches.)

Coming from the party that threw out over a thousand military votes in Florida, is this considered irony or hypocrisy?

How pissed off is Theresa going to be when she finds out that she has to 1) speak and try to behave and 2) she's being gagged anyway?

This sure lends emphasis to Hillary Clinton's "defense" of THKerry's "comments," though: "...you go, girl" said Hillary only yesterday.

I get all misty just reading it again.

(#105) Swampwoman is my kind of woman. Hey, you got a sister? (okay, my wife might object, but if the dems get their way and change the marriage laws, I might be able to have two wives).

SwampWoman

"Ms. SwampWoman, President SwampMan instructed us that under no circumstances are we to let you near a weapon when there are French People around."

LOL!

Fox News just announced there has been an indictment against an imam who runs an Islamic charity... more after the commercials. May want to tune in to hear this.

Well, they are doing the smart thing, covering their fave's butt by silencing his stoopit wife!

Iran has broken the seals on nuclear equipment

Iran has broken the seals on nuclear equipment monitored by United Nations inspectors and is once again building and testing machines that could make fissile material for nuclear weapons.

Teheran's move, revealed to The Daily Telegraph yesterday by western sources, breaks a deal with European countries under which Iran suspended "all uranium enrichment activity".

EU and Kerry need to breakout a whole six pack of nuance to beat this genie back into its bottle. Sounds like a job for sanctions. Maybe cut off their access to F9/11?

#115 Golem

Nope, no younger sisters, just 4 terrorized younger brothers.

Attorney General Ashcroft will reveal the details of a multiple count indictment against the largest Muslim charity in America. Not much info right now, but Fox is on it.

Not sure if any of you actually watched the convention last night, but it was so crushingly boring that I just couldn't stand it. The speaker from Planned Parenthood, the speaker from the American Federation of Teachers, they were just AWFUL. Boring as hell. Can't these organizations hire people who have at least a smidge of public speaking talent. They were horrible. I will never forget the Planned Parenthood person saying that the difference between George Bush and John Kerry is that Kerry respects women! Huhhh??? ZZZ...

#119 deadman

Sounds like a job for sanctions.

Please explain how sanctions would stop, or even slow down, the Iranian nuclear weapons program.

#105 Swampwoman: You needed to put a drink alert on that, as it was absolutely hilarious. And probably what I would have done if I had been First Lady.

The Other Elizabeth
Imperial Keeper

#124 Mr Pol

I think deadman was being sarcastic.

#79 Geepers

Yeppers! Fun! Fun! Fun!
('sat better?)

Delta Burka (#104),

Teresa's a strange ranger. They mentioned her and Mrs. Edwards at least three times by name during last night's DNC Speeches.

How will they be able to hide her? And the big three are going to have egg on their face, if they crop her out of the picture, whether she does or doesn't fuck it up.

Model4 (#109),

Hmm, and wasn't it Hillary that was blackballed from speaking at the convention just last week? At least until people started pointing out how wrong that looked, and then was given the job of "Introducing hubby." Strange folks, these Dems.

It was pretty creepy the way they treat woman. Paraded up on stage like that last night.

OT

Holy Land Foundation indicted. Ashcroft press conference at 2.30 ET.

[Link: www.tallahassee.com...]

Keeping fingers crossed for a perp walk.

The out of touch MSM will black out the only person who might have given their dismal ratings a boost. They would be better off showing Teresa and pulling the plug on John.

#112 Furious J

Coming from the party that threw out over a thousand military votes in Florida, is this considered irony or hypocrisy?

Where I come from, we label that as "bullsh*t," but I think you'd probably label it as hypocrisy. Look for them to try to pull the same sh*t in November.

J.D. (#127),

Do you grow weary of the clueless troll-rat?

From H-K's Couric interview

I mean, I like to hug. And I also like to be hugged.

Awww.

I was most definitely being sarcastic. I believe in an in&out air/ground op to precisely demolish the equipment (not just the buildings) and the technical staff.

Under a deal reached with the EU-3 in October, Iran agreed to come clean about its nuclear programme and announced it would suspend "temporarily" all uranium enrichment as a confidence-building measure.

However, Iran interpreted this to mean only that it would not introduce gas into the centrifuges while remaining free to build and test them.

Under a deal in February, the EU-3 closed this loophole when Iran accepted a wider definition of "suspension" - and it is this "Brussels agreement" which has collapsed.

Depends what the definition of is is.

The mullahs will not stop their program except on the point of death.

Geepers

Yeppers!

Censorship!

Hue!

Cry!

#131 American Infidel

They are definitely all going to jail...No one and I mean nooo one impedes and lies to the IRS...

Damn straight. You may be able to fool the FBI and CIA, but when the IRS comes after you, you better give your heart and soul to Allah, because your ass belongs to them.

Are they arguing about some thing?

Did ted pinch someone's stash?

Is Ted picking at a blood vessel or is he speaking french?

130 EddieP 7/27/2004 09:50AM PST
"The out of touch MSM will black out the only person who might have given their dismal ratings a boost. They would be better off showing Teresa and pulling the plug on John. "

So then I guess it is not about their poor ratings. They are trying to take the spotlight off Teresa. It is so funny. The dems made such an effort to curb all the inflammatory speeches. Mrs. Kerry's remarks blew away their efforts to portray themselves as the party of civility in political discourse. Oh well let's all pray she lets the public see who she is. Ah honesty in the democratic convention. What a time to be alive.

OH the link that dogone link [Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

pimf

#122 FloridaHeat

Pleeeaaazzzee, oh pleeeaaazzzee let this be CAIR.

OT - Now Jesse wants that institution of remarkable credibility to monitor our elections:

Jackson wants UN to watch U.S. elections

"We need U.N. observers because we can't trust the present system," Jackson, a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1984 told the newspaper in an interview. "Our democracy requires credibility."

spit !!

#142 American Infidel

But on a more serious note, I think Ashcroft is covering all possible bases...If they cannot get them on criminal charges/Patriot Act there is the good ol' standby...

Would make alot of sense, considering alot of the cases based on criminal charges have either fallen through or not even gone to trial. Better to get them on defrauding the IRS than letting them walk free.

Afterall, it is how they got Capone...

And that was only through sheer luck. Had they not gotten hold of the list showing the jury pay-offs, Capone would've gotten off without a hitch.

#144 RWC

Cries for "credibility" from Jesse Jackass are about as believable as cries for "drug control" from Courtney Love.

Since it's here in Dallas (or Richardson, to be exact), here's the story from the Dallas Morning News (sorry, link requires registration):

Muslim charity in North Texas indicted on terror-related charges

We knew this was coming, after the convictions in the InfoCom PC-sales-to-designated-countries case, just didn't know when...

#112:

The LLL doesn't think the military should be allowed to vote in the first place. So says my LLL brother. He thinks it's wrong to allow the hired guns to pick their leader.

J.D. (#136),

LOL! You need a bigger clue-bat.

#148 Desert Rat

Real nice that your LLL brother calls the only thing between him and the Nick Berg treatment "hired guns". Next time you see him, tell him (in the words of THK) to shove it, from this 27 year hired gun.

IMO, they are pulling the plug on Theresa Kerry in order to avoid having to publicize the "Shove it!"

If they put her on camera and do not show the "Shove it!" they will be exposed for their bias, if they put her on camera and show it Kerry goes down in the polls.

Solution? Keep her off camera.

Maybe they're afraid that she'll talk about the time she killed a hobo with her bare hands.

(Scroll down to the Tom Brokaw/Jon Stewart interview.)

ABC will probably show her speech on it new "ABC News Now" channel which is available over the Internet and on Comcast and Time Warner Cable.

If Teresa truly goes off the deep end and says something wacky I'll get the video and send it to Charles for posting on LGF.

the NYT spin:

Mrs. Heinz Kerry is the outspoken, unpretentious (though very wealthy) wife of the man who is to be nominated for president on Thursday. The country first got a glimpse of her in a series of disconnected snippets from the primaries, when her partly cloudy countenance seemed disconnected from her husbands growing success.

The country is now seeing her self-confidently making a series of feisty comments. On Sunday, she told a conservative editorial writer to `shove it.`

I saw Bill Hemmer's interview with THK on CNN this morning. He looked at her with cow eyes and asked questions in the "gentle" voice he seems to reserve for lady Democrats. She, in turn, answered in brittle, pissed-off monosyllables. A hard, hard woman who is angry that the rest of us don't measure up to her standards.

OT: Muslim "charity" in Texas indicted for supporting terror. [Link: seattlepi.nwsource.com...]

Re: Holy Land Foundation

New York Times, who never met a terrorist they didn't like, weighs in on behalf of HLF who says they are innocent, FBI fabricated case with falsified evidence from...you guessed it, Israel.

OT, a little:

NIN has a sample of Jihadi
comments on Kerry and Bush

At work, so I have not been able to ensure that this article has not already been posted.

Holy Land Foundation indicted. Ashcroft press conference at 2.30 ET.

For a minute I thought, "Weren't they the folks who were building that perpetually delayed Christian theme park in Orlando?" But that turned out to be "Holy Land Experience," which I see is now open for business.

(Not to be confused with the long-closed Holy Land U.S.A. in Connecticut.)

Great: the mainstream media, in order to PROTECT the candidate they want to win the election, is hiding his wife from open scrutiny because they know she'll give a rotten impression.

The most humorous thing would be if she gave an world-changing speech that would set the moderates afire.

But, after 9 years of marriage to Kerry, she has nothing interesting to say other than the elitist snobbery and denying reality that continually get her in trouble.

Instructions from on high at the Convention: the fat man can sit in a box, but please, don't let him speak.

# 129 Brenda:

Holy Land Foundation indicted. Ashcroft press conference at 2.30 ET.

CAIR's whining and seething press release in 5 . . . 4 . . . 3 . . .

Last night on the "Late Show" Letterman called THK "that pot of gold we've been looking for", with a smile on his face and a gleam in his eye.

She'd better get a grip fast or the comedians are going to have a field day.

I wish Jesse Jackson would be put in a room full of all the women he's screwed over and around on for 15 minutes. They get Grand Slam aluminum bats and he gets what he gets.

Terribly OT, but well...I had no idea that:

Dr. Seuss knew the Moonbats

or the NY Times (the Daily News here)

or JFKerry

#31 Model4 :

FOX covered the whole issue at the very start -- that is, they broke the story about the remark, then they provided information about the "...Americas..." comment (she says she didn't say it, but she did and it's recorded that she did say it, and that the reporter's question about it was...[they showed tapes: tape of TH-K saying both statements, tape of reporter with TH-K aggressing upon him...]). Anyway, FOX pretty well covered the whole thing: original comment, later question about it, denial about original comment, "shove-it" retort, later reporter explaining (and very nicely at that, quiet tone of voice, well behaved).

That picture of Kerry in the space suit is too funny.
Thanks to solomon X for putting it up. Looks to me like JeffnK is the polyp and here comes the sigmoidoscope!

All the coverage on tv will be sliced and diced for the donks so no one will ever get the whole onion.
I thought the clarification of the Kerry Camp to Terahza's comment was even more revealing...
they said it was a response to a "right wing rag".

OT --is no one in W's campaign going to fisk the movie
F9-11. Everytime someone I talk to(who has seen it) says the same thing, 'it makes you think'...the movie is very damaging to W.
Also, will W's campaign please refute the idea that the US didn't get the EU and Old Europe "allies" involved in the Iraq issue. It was UN resolutions passed over and over.The old allies (so-called) walked away from us.
Please tie in the facts that the Oil-for-Food thing was
blocking it as the euros and russia had a deal going on thru Koffee anon.W can do a great speech on this, as the allies issue is very damaging.
People like the "playing together nice" in the schoolyard concept. It touches memes from childhood and is easy concept to handle. Thus it damages W a lot.
The donks do a superb job of repetition, staying on the idea, and getting the simple buzzwords out there over and over, eg, extreme,dangerous,lies,one-sided, unilateral,blood-for-oil,cowboy,
neo-con,halliburton, poorly-run, weak economy, etc. Look at the text of the speeches the donks to see those words. The Gop and W needs to do this. Stay on message.
/rant over

I'd read this story and posted it on this message board.

[Link: www.buttholesurfers.org...]

I'm just about being banished by the system admin. for having a conservative view.

I encourage all other fellow LGF readers to sign up fo the site and join the debates!

Censorship on other forums is a shame.

BASTIDS !!!

Lunchtime...and I have to read this...

Speaking her mind
...
...

On the personal side, she and Kerry are quite physical with each other off camera, touching hands or intertwining legs, and each likes to slip an arm around the other.

Uggghhh.

Liquid lunch it is, then.

Ace is going to be p.i.s.s.e.d !!

Actually, FOX is NOW RUNNING THE WHOLE SERIES OF TAPES, beginning with the TH-K taped handheld microphone comment of "...Un-American..." followed by her demanding that she "never said that," etc.

Check this out:

Hillary spoke first. "Let me introduce you to Chelsea's father, a best-selling author, the man who taught the Democrats how to win again. A great, great president for the country we love . . . "

No mention of the fact she was married to him.

I thought that's what I didn't hear but I wasn't quite sure, but it looks like the NY Post picked it up.

BILL 'N' HILL OUT OF LIP SYNCH AS THE PARTY'S ODD COUPLE

Trouble in paradise? ;-)

Fun media day. First we get terrorist "charity" indictment with Ashcroft press conference.

Later, the well fed Michael Moore gets interviewed by Bill O'Reilly on Fox.

#156 scaramouche:

I saw Bill Hemmer's interview with THK on CNN this morning. He looked at her with cow eyes and asked questions in the "gentle" voice he seems to reserve for lady Democrats. She, in turn, answered in brittle, pissed-off monosyllables. A hard, hard woman who is angry that the rest of us don't measure up to her standards.

I agree with you that she is one Bitchy Betty, but I differ in my supposition as to whom she is teed off with. I still assert that THK is not pissed off with a fickle public - it's her husband she's ready to tear the head off of ... her ambitious and narcissistic husband, J 'effin K.

After all, what's in this for her? What can she get out of this that she doesn't already have or could easily buy? She's resentful that he's lapping up all the attention, and that he's ignorant to the fact that the Dems aren't so much liking him as they are hating Bush. If I were her, I'd be seriously reassessing my marriage.

Still, her indignation is a bit unbecoming, as she should have known what she was getting into when she agreed to marry Kerry. When Princess Diana whined about the emotionally distant Royal Family, people had little sympathy as she'd grown up in their inner circle and should have been aware of what was expected of her. The same analogy holds true for THK.

Proof positive that fantasy always pales in the cold light of reality.

I see that Charles now has an advertisement featuring Chris Mathews for the Democrat Convention coverage.

I saw Chris Mathews last night and he looked like he was so hopped up on goofballs he was drooling and sputtering.

I wouldn't be surprised if the networks pulled the plug on the whole damn convention. The ratings are in a free-fall.

Theresa Heinz Kerry is either going to bore the audience into a collective coma or make the audience pale red with embarrassment, or maybe both. I expect it will be like when I was just a young boy and I used to watch the "I Love Lucy Show." When Lucy would get herself into one of her humiliating predicaments, I would actually feel so bad for her I would have to cover my eyes. But this time, I am going to watch.

She has nothing to say. Her private persona--I will bet anyone any amount that she is a shrill self-centered controlling bitch and no one here would take that one it is so obvious. The speech is just an exercise to see if she could remain in character as first lady without becoming Catherine the Great and executing the WH gardener on a bad morning. That's why she gets such soft reporting. MSNBC this morning absolutely gushed about how her "bashing of the media" "resonated" with the party. Reminded me of Rather having orgasms on camera when reporting on Hillary.

The whole thing is like a huge chrome plated fart hanging in the middle of my living room.

If you haven't seen the footage yet, you really need to. It shows just how much of a bitch she was to the reporter. Correction: to the columnist. The guy is the editorial page editor and a columnist. THK did not know that till she hobnobbed with Gov. Rendell. Right after she talks to him is when she shoves someone out of her way to get back to the guy to tell him to shove it.

Another thing: On Morning Edition today THK confessed that the pumpkin-spice cookie recipe in the bakeoff is NOT her recipe. In fact, she hates pumpkin-spice cookies and would never make them.

Clinton was brilliant last night. He's the best thing that ever happened to us draft dodgers. (Geez, I wish I could say "us millionaires".)

I have one question. When is the 911 Commission going to convert to an Oil For Food Commission. I want to know why the former administration allowed Iraq to be bled dry by the Europeans and the UN. That's why we don;t have any friends anymore. Why didn't the Democrats stop that?

Exclusive!

I have copies of Teresa's speech cue cards!

#88 Frank IBC Owes me a new keyboard!

'Or why not have a combination of BodyWork and Jackass, with people performing liposuction on themselves with a knife and a vacuum cleaner?'

OT,
but Michael Moore apparenlty got to sit with Jimmy Carter
during the convetion (is there a presidential box?)

www.drudgereport.com/dnc7.jpg

174 Lawrence Schmerel

Re: Chris Mathews

Just click on the links to all of Charles' advertisers. They are patron saints, even if they are high on goofballs and drool on camera.

Botox providers worldwide should consider suing Teresa and yawn John for making their product look so completely iineffective.

And anyway, shouldn't her cookies be made with ketchup or steak sauce?

Dirk Diggler sez:

This might be totally unrelated to Shoveitgate. The Nielson ratings for last night's convention coverage were disasterous. The networks may be looking to avoid an entire week of lousy ratings.

Dirk...do you have the ratings link? Tried the one over at Instapundit and kept getting "Page Not Found".

TIA
Bucky Katt-
"Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my Beretta 9MM."

#177 Luigi   

I have one question. When is the 911 Commission going to convert to an Oil For Food Commission. I want to know why the former administration allowed Iraq to be bled dry by the Europeans and the UN. That's why we don;t have any friends anymore. Why didn't the Democrats stop that?

I read somewhere that the pentagon for some reason is doing its own investigation. They most recently found that a UK firm that has former UN and NATO honchos on its' board along with assorted lords, that previously denied any kickbacks, admitted it lied and did pay to a third party for "after sales service". The article seemed to show quite a bit of headway as far as information being gathered. I don't know how or when it will come out though. Volker, I would guess, won't have access to Defense intelligence. Nobody seems to care about the Oil for Kickback scandal except for those who are even now scrambling under rocks.

I'm pretty certain MSNBC markets Chris Mathews as "So high on goofballs he drools on camera."

Anyone catch Dean on Hannity & Colmes last nite?

He's a smarmy little fuck of a liar.

just a quick fly by here:

" July 27 (Bloomberg) -- The Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, the largest Muslim charity in the U.S., was indicted on charges it provided financial support to the Islamist terror group Hamas."

Holy Land Foundation Indicted

95 HotBrown

Good find. I went to wilson web site- the one where he accuses GWB of LYING about YELLOWCAKE in Africa - it's gone.

This is really rather amazing. The kerry campaign knew all along it was total BS, but they were willing to fund it anyway. Now that the pathetic loser wilson has been discredited, they put a donation form in its place.

All this and not a word from the media about the wilson implosion. Shows how 'selective' the news really is.

Hunh, imagine that.

#187 Geepers 

I'm pretty certain MSNBC markets Chris Mathews as "So high on goofballs he drools on camera."

There's a lot to be said for being high on goofballs and drooling on camera. Hunter Thompson built a career on it.

OT: RFK Jr. says Bush has brought fascism to America.

Must be that "democratic" kind of fascism, where you get to vote and the "totalitarian dictator" can be turfed out of office. Still, to the el cubos, the Bush version of fascism (i.e. Republicanism; neo-Conservatism) is sooo much scarier than the Islamist variety.

I know that NewsMax is reporting that ter RAY zuh won't be on TV tonight, but is anybody else reporting this? I don't see anything about it on FoxNews.com or CNN.com.

Report from the Boston Twee Party on NRO

Falun Gong members gathered in Copley Square to call attention to the Chinese regime's persecution of their fellow believers. Their chosen form of protest was group meditation, accompanied by a folk singer relating their plight. It was dignified, even moving.

Such was decidedly not the case with the so-called Bl(A)ck Tea Party (capital A stands for anarchy, by the way). What a motley crew! Numbering perhaps 150 overall (far fewer than they appeared in TV accounts), this group's membership appeared limited exclusively to aging hippies and out-of-work bicycle messengers (judging by their tattoos, body piercings, and aggressive disregard for conventional hygiene).

I think that last line sums up the typical Kos poster.

Teresa Heinz Kerry will be the last speaker at tonight's Dem Convention. Probable time for her speech is sometime between 10:30 to 11:00 EST. Here is the schedule so that you don't miss you favorite loon saying crazy stuff. You can listen on the internet at CSPAN.org.

...and Mathews' career could go the same way. "Chris Mathews and Hardball"..."Chris Mathews and Softball"..."Chris Mathews and Nerfball"..."Chris Mathews and Screwball"..."Chris Mathews and Football"...sorry, got carried away.

Dirk...do you have the ratings link? Tried the one over at Instapundit and kept getting "Page Not Found".

Why yes, yes I do.

Ratings Bust

THE BIG YAWN: NETWORKS IN RATINGS FREEFALL AT CONVENTION, OPENING NIGHT ALL-TIME LOW: ABCNEWS JENNINGS WITH 3.5 RATING/5 SHARE [DOWN FROM 4.5/8 IN 2000]; NBCNEWS BROKAW 3.3/5 [2000:4.8/9]; CBS DAN RATHER 3.2/5 [2000:3.8/7... TRAIL ALL OTHER PRIME-TIME MONDAY PROGRAMMING [CSI:MIAMI RERUN ON CBS PULLS 8.6 RATING/13 SHARE]... DEVELOPING...

#5

Great summary - only one problem. It's based on facts and logic - neither mean anything to any moonbat that would pay attention.

Back on Topic - I'm not so certain that the THK comments or the poor ratings from Monday had a major impact on the mainstream networks bouncing their coverage. I recall reading over the weekend reports and comments from the 3 pinheads (Rather, Brokaw, Jennings) that they were upset that the networks were reducing their coverage substanially - skipping the Tuesday night entirely.

THK has certainly stepped in it this time - even a CNN reporter went after her for taking on the Pittsburgh based print reporter - repeating to her the comments she made using the words - un-American - that prompted the kerfuffle. The Dems are also downplaying THK comments reported in the Boston Herald (and Drudge) that Kennedy isn't trustworthy or that the Dems are "putrid". The excuse is, "well, she was a Republican then...".

Proving once again that the media are biased and right behind Kerry.

186 Daybrother

This Oil For Food business is definitely one of the reasons the Euros have fallen out with us. They had a beautiful gig going, them and Kofi. All they had to do was keep the WMD inspections going and going and going, and the money kept flowing and flowing flowing. Surely, that could not have been going on under the noses of the clinton Administration and them not know it. Our intelligence cannot be that bad.

Hemmingway said of the French, they will be your friends if you pay them enough.

Dr. Demento is slated to speak at 9 tonight. I wonder if he'll do one of his famous yeehaws, just to wake everybody up.

Semi OT: Financial Times: Kerry to Suspend Advertising in August

Expect MoveOn, CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, the New York Times, the LA Times, Newsweek, Time, and paid Democratic shills to pick up the Bush-Bashing slack.

Teresa gives lecture on civility. check.
Teresa uses the phrase "un-American" to describe what she calls the current lack of civility. check.
5 minutes later she denies saying "Un-American". check.
2 minutes later she uses her superior skills in the area of civility to tell a conservative pundit to "Shove it".

check.

Hillary says "you go girl".
Check.

Kerry says something about a balance between violence and sex and things... and the Bush-hate media decide to pull Kerry himself.

Okay that last past was simply prophecy.

Remake of Manchurian Candidate

A beautiful, smart young woman from a leftist country meets a wealthy, charming young american. She marries him. Shortly after their marriage he decides to not enter his family's huge business and decides to enter american politics. His young wife declares imediately she does not want to be the wife of the american president. He becomes a US senator and begins to be groomed for the presidency. Although his political party is different from her political views she helps him in creating the image of a bright articulate young man who should be president. She still insists she is not interested in being maried to a US president. She says this repeatedly to the press. Just when he is ready to announce his bid for the US presidency he is killed in a plane crash. She grieves and is lost without him. Still repeating to the press she did not want to be the wife of a US president. She inherits her husband's wealth making her one of the richest women in the world. After a time she marries a man she does not love. This time she marries an ambitious man with an obsession to be the president of the US who has opposite political views than her late husband. She does not love him but she marries this man. She repeatedly declares she is not interested in marrying a US president. He announces his candidacy for the president of the US. She states repeatedly says she does not want to be married to a president of US.

Before the Ravages of BDS, Tuhrayzuh Was Pretty Sane

ANYONE find independant source outside of newmax on this story yet?

OT -

The evil fascist Ashcroft is going to have a news conference shortly re the Holy Land Foundation.

I hope he'll be fucking civil about it.

Oh, and Fat Bastard on O'Reilly tonight?? LOL.

Thanks for the link to tonight's lineup. Boy, it looks super!

Performance by Peter, Paul and Mary

[who haven't had a hit since "Puff, the Magic Dragon," right? O how I look forward to hearing "If I Had a Hammer," though.]

Kids for Kerry
Representatives from Kids for Kerry, Boston chapter
Nubia Smith Whitaker, age 12, will speak on their behalf

Benjamin McKenzie
Actor, "The O.C."

[pathetic attempt to get the youth vote.]

Dr. Maya Angelou
Poet and Activist

[By all means, drag out the token intellectual who has the added benefits of being black and a woman. You think Kerry speaks with affectation and snobbery? Listen to Maya tonight.]

National Anthem via satellite from the Tohono O'odham Nation, Arizona
Michael Enis and Alicia Chiles
The anthem will be sung in the traditional Tohono O'odham language

[no comment]

The Honorable Edward Kennedy
United States Senator, Massachusetts
Honorary Chair, Democratic National Committee

["honorable"]

Ron Reagan

[dad's corpse isn't even cold yet.]

Chris Heinz

[is this the son who hates mom, or is that another of her spawn?]

And the whole thing finishes up with a bang:

Benediction
Imam Yahya Hendi
Muslim Chaplin, Georgetown University, Washington, D.C.

[first muslim chaplain of a major western university, and a proud CAIR representative.]

#202 scaramouche

But he says the scream "never happened"

Howard Dean: Scream 'Never Happened'

It was all FNC...

Howard Dean said the scream speech "never happened," and that its repetition more than 900 times in the following week showed cable "at its worst" and revealed cable news as a "Murdochized" entertainment medium, not journalism.

So, saying one thing, then denying it shortly afterwards is nothing new. THK is just trying to fit in with the el cubos.

209 growler 7/27/2004 11:35AM PST

"[is this the son who hates mom, or is that another of her spawn?]"

Didn't the character Laurence Harvey played in the original Manchurian candidate hate his mom?

Have you got a link on this?

#207

Here is conformation:

PBS will provide live coverage from 8 p.m.-10 p.m. ABC, CBS, Fox and NBC will not broadcast from the convention.

In this morning's Detroit Free Press, the city's biggest newspaper which is regulary liberal, there was a story about the Shove It incident. It mentioned that she said it from a writer from a "conservative newspaper." I somehow don't recall anybody reporting on the political persuasion of the Bg Time A--hole, whose name I cannot remember.

Hmmm...Tereza's speaking?

Anyone know if I can FedEx her a bottle of Dom Perignon in time for her "warm up"?

Growler -

Performance by Peter, Paul and Mary

[who haven't had a hit since "Puff, the Magic Dragon," right? O how I look forward to hearing "If I Had a Hammer," though.]

I think "The River Jordan" would be quite appropriate.

Kids for Kerry
Representatives from Kids for Kerry, Boston chapter
Nubia Smith Whitaker, age 12, will speak on their behalf

Damn, I wish that Sam Kinnison were still alive - he could carry on an interesting "dialogue" with those kids.

I can't wait till Bush's victory speech on November 2 -

"And for my friends in the Democratic party, I have two words:

Move On.

Ashcroft's on Fox re: Holy Land Foundation

#207 Han_Solo

Well, it looks like the convention isn't even on NBC's schedule tonight. WTF?

Same with CBS?

Looks like ABC will have it.

I guess we'll find out tonight ...

Yes, Laurence's character despised Angela Lansbury's character.

Anyways, I was wrong. This, from Salon: "Teresa told Washington Post reporter Mark Leibovich in June 2002 that one of her sons -- presumably John IV, who has fathered her only grandchild, a daughter -- 'hates' her. Not much more has been said about him since, except that he is a reclusive Pennsylvania Buddhist who runs a school for wayward kids and is ... a blacksmith."

#216 J.D.

Yeah, and the idiots cut it off for a story about fast food?

CLICK to MSBC. Unbelievable.

Oops. CLICK to CNN.

Effin' idiots.

Make that CSPAN 2.

AARGH!

219 growler 7/27/2004 11:46AM PST

"Anyways, I was wrong. This, from Salon: "Teresa told Washington Post reporter Mark Leibovich in June 2002 that one of her sons -- presumably John IV, who has fathered her only grandchild, a daughter -- 'hates' her. Not much more has been said about him since, except that he is a reclusive Pennsylvania Buddhist who runs a school for wayward kids and is ... a blacksmith."

thanks

I saw the tape of her and the reporter before I saw the original "un-American" comments, and I knew she was lying to the reporter by her body language. Didn't anybody notice her touching her mouth repeatedly during the whole thing? It looked like she was feeling out a cold sore or something.

Remember, she's NOT a politician. She hasn't been properly trained to quash physical tells like that.

If a conservative or republican pundit, journalist, or writer is up to bat the media use "conservative" to describe that person. However, if a liberal, left-wing, or democrat is up to bat - the media don't tell you his or her political persuasion or say the person is "non-partisan".

#149 Geepers

LOL! You need a bigger clue-bat.

OK. I found one.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I think it's just the thing.

Frank IBC:

Damn, I wish that Sam Kinnison were still alive - he could carry on an interesting "dialogue" with those kids.

Oh, man, you and me both! I'd pay money to see that. Do you remember Sam's take on Live Aid (20 year anniversary next summer)?

"Grab your kids! Grab your shit! We're taking you where the food is!"

#220-222 Thom
LOL! Thanks anyway. Guess that guy from McDonald's is supposed to be doing something more important for us. Sheesh!

Ok I'm late to the party, but this incident (whitewashing the THK ShoveIt fiasco) is curiously similar to how "have you no sense of decency?" was stripped of context to reverse the roles of villain and innocent victim.

Tonight, the last two speakers of the Democratic National Convention are:
Teresa Heinz Kerry - Wife of future astronaut and space explorer JFK
Imam Yahya Hendi - RoP Muslim Chaplin, Georgetown University, Washington, D.C.
Democratic National Convention Podium Schedule - Tuesday, July 27th

The shove-it story will come down to two points on their side - 1) "activities" and 2) the politics of the guy she told off.

growler and river of pearls:

According to Chicago Sun-Times columnist Michael Sneed:

Please note: Chris Heinz, the hunky son of Teresa Heinz Kerry, John Kerry's wife . . . used to date actress Gwyneth Paltrow.

*A bad bite: The not-so-nice nickname ascribed to the very wealthy Mrs. Kerry, the stepmother of Kerry's children, is "Step-money."

I think that indicates how the entire set of Heinz children feel about her, although Chris (the most ambitious & seemingly duplicitous of the Heinz heirs) has been quoted as saying that J 'effin K brought his step-mother's spark back, or something to that effect.

#230 Jack

The RoPer isn't a speaker ... he's giving the closing "benediction".

Oh.My.G-d.

I was googling around and found this dated 15 November 2001.

The U.S. House of Representatives opened its session on November 15 with readings from the Koran and a Muslim prayer, led by Imam Yahya Hendi.

Standing before the American flag and the Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, in the House chamber, Imam Hendi first read verses from the Koran, and then offered a prayer.

The occasion marked the beginning of Ramadan, and underlined the fact that Islam is part of the mainstream religious landscape of the U.S. Although this is the third time Muslim prayers have been offered in the House of Representatives, it is the first time the House of Representatives has invited a Muslim chaplain to mark the beginning of Ramadan.

WoTMA. And WTF did the House feel the need to mark the beginning of Ramakablam?

OT: I can't believe this is from one of NPR's own. See Scott Simon's critique of Farenheit 9/11

'Gonzo Demagoguery' Writ Large

#209: I can't think of anything more revolting than having our national anthem sung in a language that is not the national language. Do you think the French would allow La Marseillaise to be sung in German? Not that it didn't almost happen...

From: Department of Clueology
To: geepers and #226 j.d.:
Re: clue bats.

According to LGF archives, there are four major classifications of clue *bats* that can be used for purposes of spiritual enlightenment:

First, the clue swatter. Often used on first timers, those not reaching troll status, and when the fact in question is easily accessible to a 2d grader.

Second, the clue bat. AKA the clue stick. Comes in handy with dealing with trolls and other unrepentant folk. Used for whack a troll contests. Most common variety of clue bat. Several sizes can be used, but 32 ounce version is most common. Oversized troll egos may require larger bats.

Third, the clue by four. This piece of equipment comes in several varieties, but the clue by four is seen as more rugged than the clue bat and carries that certain cachet among the pro-wrestler set. Often seen in the gordo-piñata-athon.

Finally, the clue by c4. This is an area suppression weapon used for area denial as well as to clear out a troll infestation. First used by reaganite, quickly followed by others engaged in ordanance detonation.

#233 AI

I agree with you. Of course it is very clear. He immedately corrected himself and repeated just the word un-american several times. Anyone who watches will hear that. As ridiculous an "out" it is, they will repeat it over and over and bunches of folks will buy it. I'm not even predicting here - the morning show interview has her harping on that very point.

And the guy's politics would only possibly matter if we were having to rely on his report of the event, which we don't. So it is another ridiculous out, but they'll use it anyway and folks will let them get away with it. I mean, impuning the source when he isn't the source? It was all there on tape in living color. "I did not say that" (switch to tape of her saying that)

#184 Renna 7/27/2004 10:57AM PST


And anyway, shouldn't [Tuhrayzuh's] cookies be made with ketchup or steak sauce

A quick Google turned up a recipe for Heinz Ketchup Cake -- apparently inspired by one of the "exhibits" in Lileks' Gallery of Regrettable Food. (Although, sadly, the Ketchup Cake With Pistachio Frosting was among the pages that Lileks removed from the online GoRF when the dead-tree edition was published.)

I'm not sure I'm masochist enough to try out the recipe, after a very disappointing experiment with Ritz® Mock Apple Pie™ a couple years ago.

Market rallies, CNN not interested.

Ho hum

OT

One of the BBCs 3 stories from Israel this afternoon is not hateful. Of course, its not always easy to find an unrelenting stream of bad news when covering the 100th smallest country with 1/1000th of the world's population. The Human Chain last weekend probably bought this balanced report:

In pictures: Gaza settlers speak out

What I like most about it is some very rare photos of Israel (Gaza actually) that do not have have body parts or burnt out cars in them. Just try finding photos of Israel in the press that do not look like they were selected to keep you from going there. I think that's part of the war.

Check out this profile on Sen. Byrd- scroll down to his family.

[Link: byrd.senate.gov...]

Now why wouldn't anyone call that censureship?

And as for Jackson...he needs UN observers to make sure he keeps his zipper closed.

Bwahahahahahaha!

#245 Carolyn

Re Mr. and Mrs. Byrd:

They are the parents of two daughters, Mrs. Mohammad (Mona Byrd) Fatemi ...

I wonder how the old KKKer feels about that ...

OTOH, it sure explains alot about his moonbattery.

Do you think the French would allow La Marseillaise to be sung in German?

I'm sure Neturai Karta sings the Yiddish version of the Horst Wessel Song.

On a happier note, I actually saw "graffiti" in Yiddish this morning. It blew my mind.

*colored soft drink cups stuffed into the holes of the fence along a highway overpass, to form letters.

#238 doppelganglander:

Amusingly enough, the first line of the Dutch national anthem is

We are a German people,

;-)

OT (via Sharkblog): Hezbollah may have rockets that reach Tel Aviv

Hezbollah might have a few dozen long-range rockets capable of hitting the Tel Aviv area if launched from southern Lebanon, the head of Military Intelligence told ministers at the weekly cabinet meeting Sunday

#245 Carolyn

Byrd's daughter married Mohammed Fatemi, who I'm pretty sure is Iranian. I went to grad school with Fredrik and Darius. I assure you, they are totally normal.

I've always fancied the Ukrainian National Anthem, "Ukraine Is Not Dead Yet."

Also works for Keith Richards.

Speaking of clue bats. I wouldn't mind if the sick Guardian propagandists in this article got whacked a with a clue bat few times. Perhaps they could also get a whack from a real bat for good measure.

Clueless Guardians of Jihad

“I could turn the question around. Why is there no coverage in America given to the root causes of terrorism? We try to understand why Palestinian people feel driven to take such extreme measures as suicide bombings. I understand why Israel is building a wall to stop terror, but terrorists only flourish if they have grievances to exploit.”

“Grievances? You know, I’m from New York,” I said. “Should I try to understand the grievances of the terrorists who flew into the World Trade Center?”

“Well, yes,” answered Martin. “I think bin Laden tapped into grievances.”

Harriet chimed in, “Do you think they just did it for fun? They have reasons.”

Yeah their reason consists of a brutal ideology that promises murderers 72 virgin slaves.

#252 qsort

Not making any judgments, I just never knew this.

The DNC can't catch any breaks.

The stock market is up nicely today, and then consumer confidence reaches 2-year high.

Democrats will try to take credit for this on the basis that it comes at the same time their convention is happening, even though no one bothered to watch it.

Reminds me of the day that Gore complained about the effects of global warming - on the very day the coldest weather in recent years hit NYC where he was speaking.

Capital Gang on CNN's "Inside Politics" just now. Kate O'Bierne said: "Theresa Heinz Kerry was born with a silver foot in her mouth."

Good one, Kate! Good one!

So much for hearing "smart and sexy" THK speak tonight.

We always knew "sexy" was a stretch . . .

#257: Kate was borrowing a line from Ann Richards, in which she referred to GHWB. Still a great line and very apt.

Kate also relates an amusing story about Teresa today on NRO: Teresa & Me

#255 Carolyn

No problem. Byrd is a crank, but his grandchildren are ok. I've eaten pork with them.

#239 lawhawk
You've got to admit my cluebat would be more fun and far more effective. Of course, first we have to track them down. Then, we'll be needing a lawyer...

#257 foreign devil
You'll like this, then.
Teresa & Me

KERRY FOREIGN POLICY UPDATE (according to Thomas Oliphant of the Boston Globe)

LINKY

Ever wonder how JFinK intends to convince our "allies" to jump into Iraq and lend a hand? You see, he intends to threaten them with a US troop pull-out, with the hope that the fear of utter chaos in the aftermath will force our "allies" to help against their will. Kerry also intends to force a "peace process" on the Israelis to induce the arabs to help out with Iraq.

THE CURRENT foreign policy buzzword among Democrats is "leverage."In the views of prominent Democrats I spoke with as the party's convention loomed, John Kerry included, the leverage the United States has to involve Iraq's responsible neighbors and Europe in helping produce a durable stability is both positive and implicitly negative.

snip

The assumption is that for all their anti-American and anti-Bush rhetoric, Europe and Iraq's neighbors fear the violent vacuum that would follow a precipitate US pullout from Iraq.

"I am convinced, and I am convinced John Kerry is convinced," Kennedy said, "that maximizing US influence will convince these countries that their Iraq stake is as large if not larger than our own. John Kerry will go wherever he has to go to make this work."

snip

Another Kerry foreign policy confidant, Senator Joseph Biden of Delaware, was more blunt, addressing those nations that are sick of Bush's go-it-alone-ism and pine for a new, inclusive, diplomatically activist US leader.

"Be careful what you wish for," Biden said, "because you are going to get it. Be prepared for multiple challenges for your involvement. It may make you nostalgic for the sidelines."

Former secretary of state Madeleine Albright, another source of advice for Kerry, urges a more positive form of leverage on Iraq's neighbors, without whom stability is highly unlikely. As someone who helped take the Israeli-Palestinian conundrum to the brink of resolution in 2000, she says the abandonment of serious American diplomacy in the region is beyond outrageous.

In many ways the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory is so basic to the deep emotions in the Muslim world, and thus deeply implicated in the rise of fundamentalism, extremism, and terrorism, that Albright and many other experts are convinced that US participation in a revived peace process can help draw Arab governments into the reconstruction of Iraq.

I am speechless. The Kerry plan to get allied help in Iraq is based on blackmail (excuse me, "leverage") and selling out our strongest ally in the region. If Kerry wins this election, may G-d help the United States and Israel get through the next 4 years.

The mainstream press just sucks. If it wasn't for the internet, we would all be just like mushrooms: keep them in the dark and feed them bullsh*t.

lawhawk (#239),

That's a keeper. :-)

[Link: news.aunz.yimg.com...]

I think the mainstream press in general, and right wingers in particular are afraid of strong, outspoken women. Both seem to prefer Stepford wives, who never ask hard questions, always smile, and back up their husbands no matter what. I think 51% of the population may feel otherwise.

So much more is being made of her outburst than the one Cheney unleashed-in what is supposed to be a hallowed place of civility. His outburst makes hers look meaningless.

Do you really prefer a Laura Bush robot for a first lady?

# 254 Dirk Diggler:

Why is there no coverage in America given to the root causes of terrorism?

I must confess that once I see the phrase "root causes of terrorism," my eyes roll skyward. That is THE catch phrase of Islamic terror apologists. I need read nothing more, as nothing more after that phrase will make any sense.

#267 sonofdad:

I think you mis-interpret. Prehaps you mean that those on the right prefer the person that they voted for to represent them. Had I voted for Clinton, for instance, I would have been appalled when he named his wife, an unelected person, as health care Czar. I for one, prefer strong women, but not if I didn't vote for them.

And anyone, male or female, who tells someone to "shove it" for merely quoting what he or she said not ten minutes ago, is a dipshit.

Great line from Sharkblog.

Screw everything else. Bush gets my vote because he wants to fight this war we're in, while the DNC is clicking their ruby slippers and repeating "There's no place like 9/10..."

#267 -

right wingers in particular are afraid of strong, outspoken women.

Do the names Margaret Thatcher, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Condaleeza Rice, Kate O'Beirne, Janice Rogers Brown, Laura Ingraham, or Ann Coulter mean anything to you?

The seventies are over. Bonnie Franklin doesn't have a TV show any more. And the right is filled with outspoken women. So, put down that 1973 copy of Sensitive Left-Winger magazine with Alan Alda on the cover and check out the 21st century.

#261 j.d. you've got to be paul bunyan to be able to wield that louisville slugger, but if you could, use your legs to avoid the inevitable hernia.

#263 american infidel:

That pain that Jesse's talkin about is the pain inflicted on the American public by the unrepentant butt-kissing by everyone to a guy that no one particularly feels all that strongly for. That pain must be watching Hillary and Bill deliver speeches far more deftly and charismatically than Kerry could ever hope for in his own acceptance speech later in the week.

That pain must also be referring to the Bostonians who are inconvenienced because of the convention and have either left Boston or severely altered their transportation routes and schedules to avoid the problems.

267 sonofdad 7/27/2004 01:07PM PST

Do you really prefer a Laura Bush robot for a first lady?

No we don't want a robot.

We want an intelligent woman like Mrs. Bush who knows how to answer a question from an editor of a newpaper without going postal. Someone who knows the US Constitution guarantees freedom of the press.

Instead the democrats have this loud mouth b***h who goes postal when asked a question from an editor of a newspaper about a comment she just made 10 minutes earlier. Shove it. Move on.

Margaret Thatcher

Face reddening...

Vein on forehead pounding...

Eyeballs about to pop out of socket...

"MARGARET {gasp} THATCHER {choke, sputter} IS NOT!!! {sputter} A {gasp, choke} WOMAN!!!

-radical feminist, college campus c. 1982

Also, I'm kinda partial to Alice in Dilbert.

Didn't Alan Alda commit a war crime by boring an entire Korean family to death?

"Stepford Wife" = anyone more "dainty" than Aileen Wuornos

I was wondering if she was going to be a keynote speaker at the Democrat convention, but then I remembered that she was executed a while back. (Thanks, Jeb! :) )

#267 SOD

So much more is being made of her outburst than the one Cheney unleashed-in what is supposed to be a hallowed place of civility. His outburst makes hers look meaningless.

Hallowed place of civility? What a moron. Go f*** yourself.

Hallowed place of civility

Yeah, kind of like Bill Clinton in the Oval Office.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

GO NAVY
Bush Fan, 19, Finds Himself in Kerry Central
By JODI WILGOREN

NORFOLK, Va. — As Senator John Kerry's aides and the journalists who follow his campaign around the country watched the opening speeches of the Democratic National Convention in a hotel bar here Monday night, a young man in a Kerry for President T-shirt sat alone in the lobby a few yards away.

Daniel Barber, 19, is not a member of Mr. Kerry's advance team, nor a volunteer hoping for an autograph. In fact, his T-shirt was already full of extra words, added in his own hand with black magic marker.

"This shirt was found down Sandy Berger's pants as he left the National Archives," Mr. Barber had scrawled on the back, in a reference to the troubles plaguing Mr. Berger, the former national security adviser and former adviser to Mr. Kerry's campaign.

On the front, a nod to photographs of Mr. Kerry and the actress Jane Fonda at the same antiwar protests in the 1970's: "Not FONDA John Kerry."

A Navy seaman who grew up in Gate City, Va., and has been stationed here for a year, Mr. Barber said he bought the shirt on a recent trip to Washington, D.C., along with a Bush-Cheney '04 model that he left as is ("I wouldn't desecrate that one.")

He said he had no idea that the Democratic presidential candidate and his entourage would be staying here at the Clarion James Madison hotel when he ambled over in his T-shirt to meet a friend from home visiting for the week.

"I'm Presbyterian," said Mr. Barber, who wears a buzz cut and horn-rims. "This is predestination."

His friend, Kim Kanode, 26, said she normally stays at a hotel nearer the Naval base, but booked a room at the Clarion because her regular haunt was full. She said some of Mr. Kerry's aides had offered Mr. Barber some friendly advice: "They're like, 'Just don't wear that around here."

As for his politics, Mr. Barber said, "President Bush is no Ronald Reagan," but that he is far better than the alternative. He said if Mr. Kerry could explain how his position on gay marriage and civil unions fits with the Constitution in 30 seconds, the Democrat would get his vote.

#267 sonofdad

I think the mainstream press in general, and right wingers in particular are afraid of strong, outspoken women. Both seem to prefer Stepford wives, who never ask hard questions, always smile, and back up their husbands no matter what. I think 51% of the population may feel otherwise.

Hallooo there?! Are I you saying that "I would be a doctor as my father [in the interview with Couric] but I had the US senator to catch" THK is a "strong and outspoken woman"? I don't see her as anything other than a spoiled rich bitch with severe penchant for bazaar behavior and language. Are you buying the media tripe or are you trying to spread your own?