Amazon refuses to carry Craig Unger's book, House of Bush, House of Saud.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Well, I would say that Corsi comments sound rather "progressive" and DUbots would cheer him for these if he was on Kerry's side.

Corsi's comments don't really have anything to do with Kerry, so I don't see any connection between his book and comments he made about the Catholic Church.

Charles, for once you're right. This is a smear job.

If I get famous, I didn't mean anything I ever said here and it was all meant in humor. /opportunist

And so the IMPLOSION has commenced full speed!

If I read this right, Corsi's not even a Swiftee, but just helped them put the book together

Desssperation! Desperation! Desperation! Desperation! Desperatiooon!
{to the tune of Handel's Halelujah chorus}

At least Corsi didn’t slur Cambodians by saying they shot at him. Or that South Vietnamese got drunk, then shot at him. But it is entertaining to see Kerry cast as Defender of the Catholic Faith.

But when you can’t deal with the facts in a down and dirty political brouhaha, you attack the messenger.

El Cubo tactics 101

Interesting to see the Kerry Campaign is still working the same old playbook...rather than using facts to counter the statements of the Swift Vets. Even today's WSJ Op-Ed by Rassman directly conflicted with versions that he provided in January 2004.

Live on Hugh Hewitt's show are Roger L Simon and Captain Ed of CaptainsquartersBlog - discussing the Kerry kerfuffle which seems to be gaining more steam as the efforts to deflect and defend are just pathetic.

Most interesting is the follow-up on the total lack of comment from Josh Marshall, Atrios, and the other leading L³ bloggers...

[Link: www.krla870.com...]

I'm off now, Athos.

As of now, the Kerry campaign is saying Kerry was "near" but not in Cambodia, which of course contradicts his own writing and speeches.

Athos: they're all waiting for a cue from the Kerry campaign. Couldn't be more obvious. It's comical.

Interesting that Amazon UK does sell 'the protocals of the elders of Zion', as does the US and Canadian sites of Amazon...just input in in the books section...for some reason, my browser will not get the URL of the page to post...

#10 Roger L Simon

Great job on the issue / story. I don't usually listen live to Hugh, but with the story, and the lead on your blog - had to jump over to listen.

Particulary like the fact that Lanny Davis appears to be the lead schill for the Kerry Campaign on this - and his position remains that everyone has no credibility unless they were on PCF-94 - is very very lame.

Corsi's musings about whether John Kerry is Jewish--and his statements that his grandparents were Jewish--are clearly meant to appeal to the anti-Semites in his audience.

It's interesting that no one has taken note of that on this board, and that when there is a conflict between explicitly condemning anti-Semitic statements (and the speaker) and attacking Kerry, you chose to attack Kerry.

Now is not the time for us to relax, thinking THE MOMENT has come. Thank you Charles. Thank you Roger Simon.

# 13 A

"and his position remains that everyone has no credibility unless they were on PCF-94"

Do they **really** think people are going to fall for that???!!

JMAY, bullshit. He was questioning Kerry's bonafides as a Catholic, not impugning his Judaism. He would have said the same thing if he had reason to believe Kerry was a practicing Buddhist. It's not the Judaism that's at issue, it's the faux-Catholicism.

#11 Charles,

What color smoke do you think they are waiting for?

I would have thought that at least one of them would have tried to run with the very lame explanation that Lanny Davis floated last night regarding the medals - but the Cambodia issue was probably even too far gone for Lanny to spin.

I do hope they come up with something better than "near" - 58 miles away sure stretches the meaning of near.

IS THAT'S ALL THEY GOT!!!

Well it looks like if that's the best they go then they are in very big trouble!

I also heard that the Jf’inK team are saying they have the press in their pocket and they can ride this book "issue" and the Christmas in Cambodia problem.

And did anyone hear Jf’inK went to Cambodia with a CIA operative and the agent gave him his (or a) hat and he carries in a secret compartment in the black case he carries around.

As I type this, I just heard that Jf’inK carries around his Dog Tags from Nam! Geez this guy is a piece of work!

BK

# 14 J

"are clearly meant to appeal to the anti-Semites in his audience."

Prove it.

It has been discussed here before how being Jewish/Catholic/secular/whatever-as-the-moment-sui ts-him is one of the problems with **J Forbes K** ...

And last time I checked, Corsi isn't running for any office. Nor is his spouse. So any comments he makes unofficially and off the cuff are just that, just as the comments I make here have absolutely no relevance to the care I give my patients, in another arena.

And just in case HWSNBN is still lurking, I now have two patients whose husbands are middle-eastern muslims (and active duty NCOs, which does sometimes give me pause.) But very gentle and we all get along very well. Still, I don't talk politics or religion with them, although they seem perfectly comfortable with my being Jewish.

BK, LOL. The dog tags thing cracked me up as well. How pathetic is this guy.

Charles Gordon, for once you're right. This is a smear job.

#14 JMAY

Corsi was nearly right. Kerry's brother converted to Judaism, IIRC in the 1980s.

Nice try JMAY, but I think he probably was trying to point out another flip-flop by Kerry... you know, I Jewish before I was Catholic before I was Jewish before I was Catholic again... but if you want to read anti-semitism into it, go right ahead.

#14 JMAY

Corsi's musings about whether John Kerry is Jewish--and his statements that his grandparents were Jewish--are clearly meant to appeal to the anti-Semites in his audience.

That's one reading. I was wondering if it was not more a challenge to the sincerity of Kerry's Catholicism. The problme with reading s omething instead of hearing it spoken is that the tone of voice clue just isn't there.

But it did make me uncomfortable on first read.

What evariste said. I didn't read antisemitism in that; there are no slurs or code words. He's just asking which religion John Kerry follows, after his very public displays of sudden Catholicism. Is that supposed to be an un-PC subject?

Those are considered "offensive" comments? They're absolutely tame compared to a lot of the stuff that is said all over the net, including here. What I don't understand is how they knew those were his comments? Is the implication that he used his real name on FreeRepublic? If so, he an idiot on that count, at least.

In case anyone ever finds out who I am and I later try to tell the truth about some public figure, here are some offensive comments that I am writing myself that you can all quote me on:

Islam is evil.
Islam is not even a religion.
Before they get married, a significant percentage of Muslim men have sex with adolescent boys because there is no other sexual outlet in their anti-erotic, anti-life death cult.
Beating of one's own wife is explicitly allowed in Islam.
Killing of infidels is not only allowed in Islam, it is compulsory.

Oops, those are all true. Oh well. I'll have to think up some offensive ones later.

God these gold ads are lame.

#16 Buckaroo

Lanny spent about 15 minutes on Hannity and Colmes last night running that position...the saddest part is that Hannity let him...he didn't seem up on the whole story or the facts that have addressed by HH, Northern Alliance, Roger L Simon, Instapundit, etc. who have done a great job - not only on this story, but also doing the job that the MSM should be doing.

#26 Charles

Questioning anything about Mr Ketchup is un-PC. Didn't you notice?

#14 JMay:

There's no question there have been a few antisemites over on FreeRepublic, but most of them are long gone. I've been a Freeper since 1997, and I have to tell you that there was a concerted effort to get rid of the nutcases as the board matured. Some of the best people are gone as well, having moved on to the blogsphere or wherever, but it remains an oustanding source for news stories.

But, I'll condemn Corsi's apparent antisemitism, there's no place for it here or on FR. That said, he's only a scribe, the meat of Unfit for Command is the words of the Swift Boat Veterans who served with Kerry.

Took me a long time to compose that post, so it's a little off-topic. But, I agree, the issue of Kerry's Judaism vs Catholicism is exactly about his flip-flopping. In fact, I think the point is that Kerry was posing as an Irish Catholic from Massachusetts until he thought it behooved him to raise the "Oh, but I was Jewish before I was Catholic" flag in order to try to pull in the Jewish vote.

It was one of the many things that lost him mine. F'ing hypocrite.

Charles is right more than he is wrong, Nodrog. And man enough to admit it when he is wrong.

"Oh, but I was Jewish before I was Catholic"

I'm waiting for the "Oh, but I was French before I was American" meme.

heh

I don't think that this story has legs, yet it's worth a shot seeing if it does Kerry any damage. At the minimum, it should keep him on the defensive. But the Bush administration cannot overtly support this line of attack against Kerry. They have to maintain their official position of not criticizing Kerry's vietnam service, and to stick to their issues. Voters want to hear the president stick to the issues, all the time.

If, however, bloggers and the mainstream media (aka: Fox News and eventually others) keep this story up, the best it can do is keep Kerry on the defensive. This story will not significantly destroy his candidacy.

If this story sticks, the public perception of Kerry as a political opportunist who embellishes or lies about his Vietnam service would damage his "strength of character" argument. Whether that perception emerges remains to be seen. Based on the Democratic Convention that only hyped Kerry's vietnam service (ignoring his 20 years in the Senate), the Democrats transmit that they fear Kerry has no other strengths. In fact, from a Democrat perspective, they really had no choice but to single out Kerry's vietnam service, since Bush is seen as a leader with conviction who is tough on terror. Kerry has to fight that, and the only way he can (given his pacifist history and legislative record) is to hype a Vietnam image that as a retired soldier he repeatedly denounced.

Will Kerry's use of Vietnam as a proxy for strength as President work, given the lies are being exposed? I don't know. Those people who vote for Kerry are not voting FOR Kerry in this race, they're voting ANTI-BUSH. That means, irrespective of the dirt people dig up on Kerry, the election will be won or lost based on how well Bush defends his record. That is why the Bush campaign must sit this fight out, and let the bloggers and the respectible media pursue it. It might swing some independents, but not as much as a strong defense of Bush would.

#35 Sydney Carton

Elections are won in the middle. This story will have a lot of effect on the swing votes.

whoops! Posted that in the wrong thread. My mistake.

OT: "EU cash 'not diverted to terror'"

The BBC is reporting that the EU investigation into whether they money they gave to the Palestinians was used for terrorist activities turned up no evidence of "illegal activities". That's right folks, move along, nothing to see here!

On the other hand I suppose it's possible that Arafat & Co. siphoned off the funds to their Swiss bank accounts before Al Aqsa "Martyrs" Brigade saw any of it.

I admit that Corsi's comments may have been intended to cast doubt on Kerry's Catholicism, which is still wrong and cheap. People are free in this country to practice what religion they want in the way that they want. Even if Corsi was saying that Kerry isn't a good enough Catholic by Corsi's standards (because Kerry's grandparents were Jewish?), it would not be right.

Nevertheless, there is a history of anti-Semites attempting to discredit others by claiming merely that the other person is Jewish or has Jewish ancestors.

Unfortunately, this sometimes works.

He's on now. He served from Nov-Jan 68-69 with Kerry (same boat). Did you ever go into Cambodian waters? "Absolutely not." He's giving reasons why it was a physical and logistical impossibility. In Christmas 1968 "We weren't in Cambodia, I'll tell you that". On Kerry: "He is a self-seeking opportunist". Responding to the Jon Stewart charge that none of them had really served "with" John Kerry: he was within 50-75 yards of Kerry most of the time. Did you ever have a CIA man on board? "Categorically no". Could John Kerry have just misunderstood that someone who was on the boat who wasn't CIA was CIA? "Never did we have anybody that we took close to Cambodia. 50 miles away is a long walk." Such a mission would not have been undertaken by a Swift boat anyway.
What do you react, do you think Kerry believes it himself? "No. It's laughable. If there were some reason to believe that had transpired, we would not have been made privy to that. Kerry would not have been privy to that." You couldn't get any closer than 50 miles away from Cambodia, he reiterates. Will anyone that served with him back this up? "They can't, now. It's an absolute, categorical lie". "The media is going to continue to attack us." Is this the most obvious lie that the most attention should be focused on? "Falsified reports, falsified report on an engagement I was personally involved in, that would have made them bring forth an investigation into him, so he left it completely out of the report." He says they've released ALL their records, but Kerry hasn't. He is selectively releasing sitreps.
This is fascinating.

Oh cool, they're gonna release a transcript on the web.

#35 SC

Bush appears to be doing so already:

President George W. Bush claimed political vindication Tuesday after Democratic rival John Kerry said he would have authorised military action in Iraq even knowing what he knows today.
"Almost three years after he voted for the war in Iraq, and almost 240 days after switching position and declaring himself the anti-war candidate, my opponent has found a new nuance," Bush told a campaign rally here.

"He now agrees it was the right decision to go into Iraq," said Bush, whose handling of the military operation has been a major issue in his quest for re-election in November.

Bush later added, "I want to thank Senator Kerry for clearing that up."

[Link: www.blogsforbush.com...]

#39 JMAY

Given the sheer amount of taqqiyah he spouts, I think Mr Ketchup is a [bigoted word].

#35 Sydney Carton:

Voters want to hear the president stick to the issues, all the time.

That's a charming belief. It's also a pleasant fiction.

#34 grayp

I'm waiting for the "Oh, but I was French before I was American" meme.

Or the "I was Irish before I was English."

"'I'm sure some people see the name and say, "Hey, I think it's this or that," but I've been clear as a bell,' Kerry said. 'I've always been absolutely straight up front about it.'

Whoops:

''For those of us who are fortunate to share an Irish ancestry, we take great pride in the contributions that Irish-Americans...

SEINFELD: "I wanted to talk to you about Dr. Whatley. I have a suspicion that he's converted to Judaism purely for the jokes."
PRIEST: "And this offends you as a Jewish person?"
SEINFELD: "No, it offends me as a comedian!"

RIP Ford, LOL! I hadn't seen that before. It's really amazing how little core or character the guy has. He's a complete opportunist.

Sorry, folks, but the blatant attempt at an anti-Semitic slur in the quote ("What religion is John Kerry?") can't be washed away by a mere apology, nor would ya'll accept such if it had been directed against, say, Rumsfeld - or Bush. So calling this a smear campaign when the man's hateful words are merely being quoted back at him is pretty unimpressive.

Yeah, people say stupid things. But when it comes to making insinuations about someone's religion, especially transparent anti-Semitic ones, it's time for those people to STFU and STFD.

You guys..Some of us know just what Corsi was saying. This kind of thing happens in Eastern Europe all the time. No matter WHO you are...its "Is he Jewish or what?" That means: is he REALLY...REALLY one of us or does his allegiance lie ELSE WHERE..(Like in Israel..Dual Loyalty..Money...Influence. and old Lies which are worse...blah blah blah)

You are likely to see more and more of this..egged on by Islamists in AMERICA..for one group..But NOT the only group. Other groups will start with this...HE/SHE MIGHT BE JEWISH AND YOU OUGHT TO KNOW.

Setting the Scene: There we are...either side..a Candidate Running...right??? And you will start to hear questions about: IS he or WAS he or Is his WiFE or WAS his Father...etc. ***These ARE expressions of ANTISEMEMTISM. These questions are MEANT TO SMEAR the person... meant to make you NOT want to vote for that (secret or maybe or Im not sure) JEW who is a LIAR cause hes passin...himself off as one of us...etc.

Most of you are too NICE to even know about this smary thing. Its coming here...sooner or later unfortunately.

And another thing he said..The Church and buggering..and LAWYERS pulling GOLD off the walls? That means WHAT??? Lawyers especially. IE this ISNT the Priests Fault..its the Lawyers fault? (exactly WHICH Lawyers are we talking about?) Cause..thats problematic as well.

This guy has some mouth on him..far as Im concerned...

#47 evariste

It's really amazing how little core or character the guy has. He's a complete opportunist.

Amazing, isn't it?

He's a pathalogical liar, and not very good at it to boot.

Some speech is more free than others. Other speech is paid for in character assassination, if not outright assassination. Kerry can do no wrong. His path will be strewn with rose petals. The swiftees have months of dissection to look forward to.

If Kerry becomes president, shudder, he will be the least scrutinized candidate to make it through the process in my lifetime. The media, whatever their political leanings, used to appear to take their jobs -- somewhat -- seriously. Kerry runs on his four months in Vietnam, but that's the one subject nobody should talk about. How convenient.

Cato the Elder, out of the three comments that the article singles out, one is a criticism of Islam, one is a lamentation of the end days of the Catholic church, and one suspects Kerry of insincereness in his Catholicism. Don't you think if this guy had been an antisemite there'd be more Jew-related quotes, as opposed to just one that mentions the Judaism in passing to question the guy's Catholic bona-fides?

I've been watching Kerry's sudden interest in Catholicism (publicly taking communion, etc.) for a while, so I automatically put Corsi's remark in that context -- he was questioning Kerry's political religiosity.

I do see how it could be construed as antisemitic without that context, though. Just didn't see it here. Although it's clear that the wire services include it because it makes Corsi look like he hates everyone. But I'd need a bit more evidence before concluding he hates Jews; his question isn't unreasonable, per se.

# 35 Sydney Carton & # 36 Mr Pol:

If this were a drinking thread, I'd be very confused. As it is, I'm discombobulated, seeing the same posts back to back on different threads. Lets one know the liquor is working, or that one needs more liquor. Either way, it's a good excuse for having a drink. Here's a cross-eyed "Cheers" to you both.

And vickie -- you're right. Corsi's got a mouth on him. I'll bet he wishes now that he'd been a little more circumspect in his Free Republic postings.

Let that be a lesson for the lizards.

#49 vickie

What's Mr Ketchup's record on Israel?

RIP Ford.

OMG. Is this man a pathological liar or what? Actually, I'll think about that later. I'm too busy busting a gut.

Hey evarist, do you have a link to the website that transcript is going to be posted to? And BTW did the ZOG check arrive?

Remember, this stuff was released in an attempt to smear the guy. You think they would hesitate to put out any other comment that mentioned Jews in a suspicious way, just to make him look bad? I don't really buy it, he was talking about Kerry's insincerity. If the guy was an antisemite he would have let it hang out all the time, and there would be way more quotes being spread around by the lll msm. If this is all they found, and occam's razor tells you he's talking about the two things that do matter to him, Kerry and Catholicism, not about Jews, then you're really stretching if you insist on being offended by it. Just my opinion.

At FreeRepublic I've posted all kinds of nasty comments about John Kerry's Jewishness. And I'm Jewish.

Kerry's father had 4 Jewish grand parents. His father hid his Jewishness in the State Department where he worked for decades. Some of Kerry's strange psychology and his lonerism comes from his father hiding his Jewish background.

#42 Connecticut Yankee

If anything has been learned about Kerry - he will flip/flop and take the easy way out. I'm sure he feels his anti-war / ABB base is safe at this point - so he feels he can flop once again - and say he remains in favor of the war.

That still doesn't explain the vote against the funding for the troops (the $87B), or provide any concrete details on specifically he will do things (support Iraq, withdraw troops, address Iran / North Korea) differently than the President is doing.

All in all, his National Security credibility is taking some real hits.

53 Charles

Corsi doen't hate Jews. Everyone spouts off at Free Republic. Corsi said some anti Catholic things and he's Catholic... so go figure.

grayp-Should be here, I believe. And no, ::taps toes impatiently, checks watch:: where's my ZOG check!
Leah, I can see what you're saying, but I don't think in this case that there's any ulterior antisemitic motive.

Let that be a lesson for the lizards.

Very wise words...

Hellooo people! Why do you think he actually came out today and said he would have gone into Iraq? Do you think it is just coincidence that right after it was reported Nader didn't make the ballot in California?

Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, are Catholic.

Non practicing, but only trout out their affiliation in front of a camera.

The Dali Lama Tenzin Gyatso is more Catholic than these two.

#17 evariste

#20 Buckaroo

Maybe I am totally wrong here (first time for everything :-P )

But when I read it, the first thing I thought of was that the reporter attacking Corsi was trying to paint him as an anti-semite. Trying to infer - "Why would Corsi bother with bringing up Judaism when Kerry is Catholic."

ps - I just reread it, and maybe the reporter isn't being as malicious as I first thought,...but you have to wonder given that the majority of the media has glossed over the SwiftVets (?) but this will be on all the shows now.

pss - evariste - "The Straight Dope" was on A&E in 1996. Didn't last but one season I think. Which sucks, because it was a really fun show to throw on and waste time - this was the host - Mike Lukas

Heh. Powerline is calling Kerry "Senator Mitty."

#52 Evariste: See Vickie's post #49.

I just don't buy it. And if it were an anti-Bush guy saying the same thing about somebody on our side, it would take about three seconds for everyone on this site to pounce all over it and unveil it for the Jew-baiting drivel that it is.

Full quote:

“After he married TerRAHsa, didn’t John Kerry begin practicing Judaism? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?”

Dragging the man's wife into it? Check.

Insinuations about grandparents? Check.

Questions about his religious affiliations? Check.

Come on, folks. This is classic anti-Semitism. The guy ain't worth defending.

I really don't care if Kerry - or Bush, or anyone else - practices Catholicism in even years, Judaism in odd, and Scientology on leap days. It's just not a legitimate way to frame the debate.

#27 Zombie:

Those are considered "offensive" comments? They're absolutely tame compared to a lot of the stuff that is said all over the net, including here.

Somehow, I doubt Poitiers-Lepanto will be running for office any time soon...

Bigel's attempts to get elected are probably also doomed...

Ah, here we are... Kerry record on Israel. So 'dual loyalty' won't work - and Corsi's comment was not anti-semitic.

Let that be a lesson for the lizards.

::bigel and Camel Prophet frantically reassess their political futures, realize they will never be elected President, wail and gnash their teeth::

vicki, I read it again. The comment about the lawyers ripping the gold off Vatican alters was in the context of the Catholic Church's child abuse scandal and it is true that the lawsuits have put the American Catholic Church in dire financial straits. No, I know that sometimes there is 'coded' speech, but I'm not seeing it here.

But I will say that I find trying to impugn a person about his religious beliefs/practices is most of the time out of line, and I think that is the case here.

Thanks, evariste.

RWC: Thanks for the info. Funny-looking guy :-)

#68 Cato the Elder: It really is irrelevant whether Corsi is an anti-semite or not. He didn't write a book about Israel, he wrote a book about John Kerry and Vietnam.

I personally think the Swift Boat guys are nothing better than Republican party shills. But you don't counter a smear with a counter-smear. You counter it with facts. Kerry just needs to trot out his buddies to verify his story, and then we'll have a "he said they said" situation which is unresolvable. And Kerry comes out ahead. When his henchpeople go for the counter-smear, they come out behind.

So complex a thread, reminds me:

An elderly Italian Jewish man wanted to unburden his guilty conscience by talking to his Rabbi. "Rabbi, during World War 2, when the Germans entered Italy, I pretended to be a Catholic and changed my name from Levy to Spamoni, and I am alive today because of it."

"Self preservation is allowable, and the fact that you never forgot that you were a Jew is admirable," said the Rabbi.

"Rabbi, during the war, a beautiful Jewish woman knocked on my door and asked me to hide her from the Germans. I hid her in my attic and they never found her."

"That was a wonderful thing you did and you have no need to feel guilty."

"It's worse Rabbi. I was weak and told her she must repay me with sexual favors, which she did, repeatedly."

"You were both in great danger and would have suffered terribly if the Germans had found her. There is a favorable balance between good and evil, and you will be judged kindly. Give up your feelings of guilt."

"Thank you, Rabbi. That's a great load off my mind. But I have one more question."
"And what is that?"

"Should I tell her the war is over?"

piglet: rofl.

#74 Gordon:

I don't disagree with your overall point (for once), but find it just a tad hypocritical for people on this board to be making excuses for that kind of talk on the basis of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Some friends we don't need.

You guys..You KNOW I aint voting for Kerry. I HEARD what he said..It only took ONE PHRASE for me. He said the phrase.."ROOT CAUSE". This translates as: Its tha Jooos fault that ALL this has been happening. I GET where Kerry IS. Case closed..AND...I dont like that woman...Just dont.

Next: Charles..I honestly think most Americans are TOO NICE to know the tactic that this guy was using. It is in Eastern Europe...(anytime someone is running for SOMETHING in those Countries..its a big PRODUCTION of..IS HE..or ISNT HE..or WAS HIS..etc ) and this is MEANT to smear the Candidate and tell the voters that this guy ISNT...part of YOU. Sooo whats just UGLY...and whats Antisememtic and ugly? Since weve seen this kind of thing so often mounted by Antisemites..well... some of us recognize what this IS.

Its there in Eastern Europe..moving into Europe itself...(think I heard a few incidents..) and will it then move HERE...You run for office, you want to be Pres. of a University...You might be in line to be head of a Network...??? But FIRST..are you JEWISH or what? And why would you NEED or WANT to know that? Isnt that kind of a step BACK to the 20-s and 30s? Seems like that to ME...

Next..I dont like anyone asking anyone what their religion is anyway? Its not MY business what Religion you are UNLESS...you want to tell me... I thought WE..stopped that. Didnt we?

On the Catholic/Jewish Corsi quote, here is the quote and the full thread at Free Republic.

They were discussing abortion and Catholicism.

Yet another unjustified attack on Islaam.

The following two incidents explain how Allah Ta’ala favours with special mercy those who show mercy on others.

Hadhrat Jarir ibn Abdullah (Radhiallaahu Anhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ‘Allah Ta’ala does not have mercy on him who does not have mercy upon people.’ (Mishkaat pg.421; Me’raaj)

Hadhrat Aaisha (Radhiallaahu Anha) narrates, ‘Once a woman came to me begging with her two daughters, I did not have anything but only one date which I gave to her. She (broke the date) into two pieces and gave it to her two daughters and she did not eat from the date (although she herself was hungry). Then she woke up and went away. When Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) came, I related to him the incident. (Upon hearing that) He said, “Whosoever is tested with daughters (in supporting them) and is good to them, the daughters (in lieu of being good to them) will be a veil for him from the fire of hell.”’ (Mishkaat pg.421; Me’raaj)

Hadhrat Anas (Radhiallaahu Anhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ‘Whosoever takes care of two daughters until they attain puberty, he will come on the day of Qiyaamat while I and him will be like this’, and Rasulullah(Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) (illustrated the closeness) by joining his two fingers (the index and the middle finger).

Hadhrat Abu Hurayra (Radhiallaahu Anhu) narrates that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ‘The following persons will be granted shade by Allah in the shade of His throne on that day when there will be no shade except the shade of the throne of Allah; a) A Just ruler, b) A Young man who worships Allah in his youth, c) A person whose heart yearns for the Musjid, d) Those two persons who love and meet one another for the pleasure of Allah, e) A man who is tempted by an honoured and beautiful woman and refuses to respond for the fear of Allah, f) A person who gives charity so secretly that the charity of one hand is not known to the other, g) A person who makes the Dhikr of Allah in solitude and the tears flow from his eyes.’ (Mishkaat pg.68; Qadeemi

Allah Ta’ala has blessed us with this sublime religion of Islam. Every piece of advice of our beloved Rasul (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) contains oceans of wisdom and insight. The above narration of Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam)entails the 5 important duties of a Muslim whereby if practiced upon leads one to eternal bliss and happiness. They are, a) Imaan (believing in the greating of Allah), b) Ibaadat (the obligatory injunctions of Deen), c) Akhlaaqiyyat (character), d) Dealings, e) Mu’aasharat (social)

Men who abuse their wives should never be unmindful of Allah’s wrath and punishment. Allah is All-Seeing and All-Hearing. Fear Allah.

If your husband touches you and you get aroused, that does not invalidate the Ghusl. Reaching climax is not a condition for Ghusl to become necessary. As soon as the husband’s private part enters his wife’s private part, Ghusl becomes necessary on both even though the man does not ejaculate. After intercourse one should first ensure that all the sperm has come out, by urinating, thereafter should make ghusl, taking care to first remove all impurities from body.

Great job looking it up, RIP Ford. I think this settles it. Other comments from that thread:

Is he Catholic?

He is Catholic In Name Only.

He is the antithesis of all Catholic doctrine and should be excommunicated.

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To: jrlc
After he married TerRAHsa, didn't John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? He also has paternal gradparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?

Satanist.

19 posted on 03/04/2004 10:00:02 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)

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I don't think the Freepers are overly concerned about the Judaism thing, including Corsi (jrlc on Freep).
To: msdrby
Is he Catholic? I knew he was riding hard on his initials being the same as Kennedy's, but also Catholic? Interesting that he would put forth a pro-abortion venue if he is.

John F. Kerry Catholic??? UHM...he says he is. So "devout" that he had his first marriage annulled so he could marry a rich widow and also declaring his children "illegitimate" in the process. Of couse, abortion is a different story dontchaknow. Unborn children are disposable to this scum...and he wants to force us to pay for it in taxes. Kerry is also Jewish, African American and Irish too. Oh, and did you know he's a decorated Vietnam war hero??? (sarcasm)

31 posted on 03/04/2004 1:53:46 PM PST by Ragirl (Vote in '04 ! Those who sit on their hands end up with poop on them.)

piglet, I am bookmarking that joke. Hilarious.

On a more serious note, I have to day that, as a Jew, I was disgusted when Kerry first started bringing up his Jewish ancestry, because it seemed at that time like a totally transparent way to tie in the Jewish vote. His pandering bothered the hell out of me, done, as it was, when there was finally a semi-viable truly Jewish candidate.

While I agree that, normally, the type of remark that Corsi made would be a red flag of anti-semitism, I truly believe that his point was that Kerry is an opportunist. Never particularly religious, he first played up his "Irish Catholocism" because it behooved him to in Massachusetts. Once it became expedient to become Jewish, he renounced his Irishness (I am quite sure I read an article in which he admitted that Kerry was a changed name that had nothing to do with Ireland) and re-invented himself as a Jewish victim of discrimination.

It was the beginning of my recognition of his flipperdom. You could substitute any religion for Catholic and Jewish in Corsi's screed, and it would be just as applicable.

I hate Kerry for dragging Judaism into it.

Oops. This text

I don't think the Freepers are overly concerned about the Judaism thing, including Corsi (jrlc on Freep).

is mine and was supposed to end up outside the blockquote, I made it look like my own writing was a Freeper quote. FTR, I said that, no one there did :-)

Here's the thread. It provides some context.

#74 nodroG

Yeah, all 200 of them, maroon.

PIglet:

ROTFLMAO!!!

#81 RIP Ford

Oops.

OT - Report: Britons Join Al-Sadr Militia

Am. Inf, I can't stand Aisha either, but she's just an Aussie guy frauxlling us for comedy value. If you keep responding to "her" like "she's" a real muslim "she'll" just keep posting more of this stuff. Just scroll past. David, I entreat you, deliver us from Aisha! Please. You must grow beyond this crummy, worn character. Obviously you have comic talent. Use it, don't waste it this way.

Gryp and Everyone: You know..Id love to always be with you on the "team" so to speak. Sometimes I just cant. BUT..ya know I know you all appreciate an honest person. I AM..what I am and you cant trust my stances to be honestly thought out..AND...I CAN change my mind...as well.

G..Im not sure how to explain this...BUT...a little light goes on...or little bells ring..somewhere deep inside all that DNA I have...(lololol) Something? says: ding ding ding ding ding... PAY ATTENTION. If it feels ROTTON to me..it usually IS Rotton.

I smell somehting NOT good with this guy..what CAN I say. Would I BET my life on it? Yeah..Almost... I would. Believe it or not I would. I trust myself..a whole lot on this. Right..good portion of the time..Wish I wasnt but I am.

This all has NOTHING to do with wether Kerry was lying about this or that or wasnt a good officier or WHATEVER. He may be just what THEY say he is or was... I was just talking bout the SMELL of what Corsi said. Thats a separate issue from the truth of the allegations. (I always do this..separate things in an issue..and EVERYONE always yells on me for it..but I will persist..cause I THINK its right to do it)

We wouldn't have you any other way, Leah. Carry on :-)

Even if Corsi was saying that Kerry isn't a good enough Catholic by Corsi's standards (because Kerry's grandparents were Jewish?), it would not be right.

There are plenty of reasons to doubt Kerry's bona fides as a Catholic without bringing Judaism into it. His position on partial-birth you-know-what, for instance. Sorry for mentioning that, but pro-life legislation touches on a doctrine of the Church, and all faithful Catholics are bound to adhere to it.

Kerry-as-defender-of-the-Catholic-Faith is preposterous.

On this issue, as on so many others, Kerry seems to need to have it both ways.

#90 Mr Pol

Not a problem.

American Infidel, yeah, it's the guy that posts as David from Oz who is Aisha.

Man, I am like so totally boned if I ever became a public figure. Fortunately, the prospects for that are quite dim indeed.

piglet, great joke!

In light of RIP Ford's #81, it is very hard to say whether there was an antisemitic slant to that comment he made. It could be.

Doesn't change the fact that Kerry lies nuances about almost everything.

Governor Perry was on the news saying there is no specific terror threat against Texas. Not sure why that isn't that reassuring.

#74 Gordon

You counter it with facts. Kerry just needs to trot out his buddies to verify his story

He tried, unfortunately John Rambo, Snake Plissken, Col. James Braddock, Col. John Matrix, and Col. Kilgore were all on vacation.

Saying Bush KNEW!!! == facts
Saying Kerry LIED!!! == slime

Thanks. Now I understand.

#93 evariste

Am. Inf, I can't stand Aisha either, but she's just an Aussie guy frauxlling us for comedy value.

You and me both. It might have been funny the first time or two, but now it is just another troll that removes some of the value from LGF.

OT: Anyone watching LAST COMIC STANDING? Ive been..This time this Comics were pretty darn good. Anyone of em will do well after this. I wont be disappointed no matter who wins. ON NBC now..I think its the FINAL SHOW.

I enjoy this show. Its not doing badly at all.

Mommydoc,

I truly believe that his point was that Kerry is an opportunist. Never particularly religious, he first played up his "Irish Catholocism" because it behooved him to in Massachusetts. Once it became expedient to become Jewish, he renounced his Irishness (I am quite sure I read an article in which he admitted that Kerry was a changed name that had nothing to do with Ireland) and re-invented himself as a Jewish victim of discrimination.

I agree. Now he's re-made himself as a Catholic victim of anti-semitism! Next thing you know he'll be a Southern Baptist!

Awww...Everiste honey..Thank you...Sending a long distance Kiss.

#82 Aisha

Man, Aisha, you're a better argument for Islam than any real Muslims I've ever met!

There, evariste, if that doesn't make him can it, I don't know what will.

John Kerry, Zelig for the 21st century

It just goes to show you what you can do when you're a total psychotic" - Zelig after flying across the Atlantic in record time... upside down

¿&iquestIS SOMEBODY UPSTAIRS NOT VERY HAPPY WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THE RED-NECK RIVIERA?? TWO POTENTIAL HURRICANES, ONE A GIRLY STORM (BONNIE), ONE A POTENTIAL MAJOR (CAT 3 OR CAT 4-200 KM/HR OR HIGHER) LOOK LIKE THEY ARE TARGETTING FLORIDA PANHANDLE!

NHC Forecast Track- Tropical Storm Bonnie Bonnie is struggling a bit with dry air and northerly shear, and last visible satellite pics of the evening show the center moving out from under the thunderstorms. NHC forecast brings it to minimal hurricane strength before landfall.

NHC Track for Tropical Storm Charley

Color enhanced (warm clouds mean cold cloud tops, mean strong storms) show Charley starting to kick butt and take names!

BTW, Tropical Storm Warnings for entire south coast of Haiti, and for Jamaica. This will probably be a hurricane by then (winds already nearly 110 km/hr), I'm a little surprised they didn't post a hurricane warning for Jamaica.

I'm not Jewish and have no prejudices against any specific group (minus the Muslims that want to kill me), so when I read the comment...

“After he married TerRAHsa, didn’t John Kerry begin practicing Judaism? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?”

...I just thought Corsi was making fun of Kerry's flip flop behavior.

I don't understand such prejudices and haven't personally experienced any real discrimination - but that's my take on it.

Can't rule out Charley coming up along East Coast of Florida, and then up into the Carolinas and maybe even the Northeast.

August and September, the interesting months.

Although I still remember a year and a half ago, when Dallas had a big ice storm, and in Houston, it was biting cold, with a north wind, and maybe 5C, which is cold for HOU. But the low clouds, which were very low, about the level of the Transco/Williams Tower (less than 300m) were racing north, and I knew that warm and humid air was zooming to DFW to drop rain into the shallow (less than 1km) sub-freezing air.

So I manage to stay entertained, even in January.

#114 Isobella

I just thought Corsi was making fun of Kerry's flip flop behavior.

That's my take on it too.

Maybe this explains why the DNC didn't think Kerry's war record would be too big of a deal, if anyone dug too deep.

"The campaign source said that the book was not considered a "serious" problem for the campaign, because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source. "The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."

From The American Spectator
Scroll down to the last section.

#92 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Vital point of order, if you please:

"Iraqi-born Britons"

Makes a dif, eh?

#27 zombie

Those are considered "offensive" comments? They're absolutely tame compared to a lot of the stuff that is said all over the net, including here. What I don't understand is how they knew those were his comments? Is the implication that he used his real name on FreeRepublic? If so, he an idiot on that count, at least.

Checking RIP Ford's linkie, he posted as jrlc. His initials, I imagine (Catholics get FOUR initials, 'cause they're special like that).

I don't use my real name, but I know fer damn sure that it ain't near impossible for me to be traced. With teh mad skillz some of our lizardoids possess, someone could probably have my name, address, and home phone number in a matter of minutes.

Actually, I think all that it'd take is Google.

Aaarrrgh!
O'Reilly just finished a softball segment with Jim Rassmann, the Special Forces guy that Kerry picked up out of the river.
O'Reilly hasn't done his homework. He didn't even know that Rassmann wasn't in the Navy. He had assumed that Rassmann was a crew member on Kerry's boat.
Rassmann even admitted that he couldn't remember any of the other crew members on the PFC=94 boat. He only remembers Kerry, because Kerry was the one who "saved his life".

Someone put Bill O'Reilly out of his misery please.

#12 Ny Nana

You were right. I had to check it out for myself. Amazon.co.uk won't carry House of Bush, House of Saud but they do carry The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

[Link: www.amazon.co.uk...]

#122 For some reason, I can't get the page to post. But don't take my word for it, go to amazon.co.uk and do a search on protocols, elders, zion and it all pops up.

We have to go after the Saudis. If we don't, we will be cutting our own throats.

What, this link to Protocols on Amazon.co.uk?

#84 Mommy Doc

I pretty much get the same feeling after reading the remarks on Freeper...my Jew-hate hairs on the back of my neck are not standing up, and as a native Bostonian, I am all too aware of what and who Hanoi john is and isn't.

As a Jew, I found this article, which I posted on another thread today, to be excellent. Jeff jacoby also writes for the Boston Globe: On outing Kerry

...I'm not a rabbi. I don't play one on TV. But you can take my word on this: John Forbes Kerry isn't Jewish. He isn't half-Jewish. He isn't Jewish in the halachic sense (in Jewish law, or halacha, a Jew is someone who was born to a Jewish mother or converted to Judaism). He isn't even Jewish in the Lenny Bruce sense ("Dig: I'm Jewish. Count Basie's Jewish. Ray Charles is Jewish. Eddie Cantor's goyish. B'nai B'rith is goyish; Hadassah, Jewish.")

The junior senator from Massachusetts is a lifelong Catholic whose paternal grandparents appear to have converted from Judaism long before he was born. Though he has known for 15 years that his grandmother was originally Jewish, he rarely spoke about it in public. He didn't bring it up in his 1996 or 2002 re-election campaigns.

But that changed after The Boston Globe reported on Page 1 that his grandfather, too, had been born Jewish. Within hours, Kerry was in a Florida synagogue, extolling his Jewish roots.

"I am so excited," he told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee during a dinner last week at Congregation B'nai Israel of Palm Beach. "I've embraced what I have learned, and a light has literally turned on within me -- like an epiphany -- and I am proud to share this special measure of connection with you..."

In trying to be all things to all men, he is a nothing.

NY Nana:

In trying to be all things to all men, he is a nothing.

Exactly. My Jew-hate early warning system didn't even make a soft beep.

#122 Mentat

As you see, that book is fine with Amazon..BTW, the same browser bug message came up that I get. Amazon makes it impossible to post a page, other than the home page..or it is my browser that won't show it. Is anyone else having the same problem?

I really am getting to feel very anti-Amazon..this, and the daily krap kos being added to their US site, as a plog...

#127 Ny Nana, see my #124.

Mommydoc

I saw a post or two a couple of days ago, are you, like Evariste, back to stay?

# 127 NYN

Well, they **are** a Seattle company ...
:-(

Okay, I never did get the lowdown on Evariste's leave of absence.

I was surprised at its brevity.

What happened, dude?

Thought the net was interfering with real life, then discovered you hadn't been missing much?

Trying to be a political animal without the net is like trying to be a baseball fan without beer (apologies to the Simpsons).

#128 Iron Fist

A catholic was invited by a baptist friend to come to a Sunday attendance which he accepted.

That morning the baptist preacher, who was a fire-and-brimstone type, was really enjoying firing up the congregation with his sermons. At one point, he shouted, "All good baptists stand up and receive his grace," at which point the catholic attendee remained seated. The preacher approached the young catholic and asked what faith was he?

He replied, "I'm catholic."

Preacher, "well why are you a catholic?"

Catholic, "Probably because me parents were catholic."

Preacher, "Why were they catholic?"

Catholic, " Probably because my grandparents were catholic."

Preacher, "Well if you parents were fools and your grandparents were fools, what does that make you?"

Catholic, "Then I would probably be a baptist."

Lewis, I decided to take a break from the news that coincided with my vacation, and said I might come back afterwards. I did :-)

If anybody has the chance, John O'Neill, the author of "Unfit for Command" is on Hanninty right now and is handing it back to Alan Colmes as good as I've seen.
It's worth a look see.

Is THIS what we're down to?? Trolling blogs and message boards to try and out people?

I REALLY REALLY don't think Kerry/ the DNC want to go there.

I really don't. LOL!

#134 evariste

Well alrighty then.

Damn glad to have you back in the International Zionist Conspiracy fold.

#135 FrankNH

That guy needs to get on as many shows as possible. He has his ducks in a row. He just slam dunked the Hannity Colmes show.

Shtank you verrah much Lewis :-)

138 Soonerborn
Now Hannity has this "lawyer" Johnson on spouting all the crap about these guys didn't serve with him. The Colmes brings up the Corsi quotes. If you can't win with the facts, shut down the ad. If you can't shut down the ads, slime the people involved.
Bah!

Ed Moran: Not really sure. I've been slammed with work, and am taking a little time to poke my head out. My contract ends the end of August, so I may have a lot of free time for a month, in which case I will be back for awhile, but in October, I will start preparing for my oral specialty boards in earnest, in which case I will for certain disappear again.

Which brings up a point: I expect to spend about 11 days in Columbus, OH in October, followed by up to 2 weeks in Dallas, the last week of October and first week of November. I will have to eat, and maybe even drink then, so I might be interested in meeting up with some LGF lizards in those venues.

No comments about oral specialty boards either, any of you. It's just too damn easy. ;-)

#127, #122, etc.

There's a very simple reason why Amazon.co.uk isn't selling House of Bush, House of Saud. In the UK, the libel laws are much stricter and place the burden of proof on the author, rather than the person claiming libel.

The Saudis obviously have the resources to sue the pants off of both Amazon and the publisher, and so it's likely that that particular book isn't available for sale in the U.K., period. Just not worth the financial hassle. You would have to order it from a U.S. seller. Probably Colt or some other U.K. lizard could confirm this...

Interesting aside: Notorious antisemite David Irving once unsuccessfully attempted to sue author Deborah Lipstadt in the U.K. courts for writing a book called Denying the Holocaust, in which she exposed him and other Holocaust-deniers as the idiots they are. To defend herself, her defense had to prove to the court that the Holocaust actually happened!

Grr... PIMF. "Allow myself to introduce.. myself."

That last paragraph sounds weird b/c I had to keep editing it to figure out why LGF said it contained a "banned word or phrase". Turns out that the #1 Google link regarding the lawsuit that I wanted to link, since it appeared to be informative, was actually a page of David Irving's propaganda site. "Welcome to the World of Real History" indeed. Idiot.

OK, Iron Fist, you walked into this one: You're officially one gross.

Iron Fist: LOL! I love you, man!

Kerry has to be Catholic, how else could he have gotten the marriage that produced his two daughters, whose tiny little lives began at conception, annuled? Only Torquemada would question his sincerity.

147 Iron Fist

There are already more of you than last time...

(Hug)

Welcome back Mommydoc. Good luck testing.

Thank you, Perry. I'm gonna need it...

150 Iron Fist

More and more of you all the time. I type slow, but I catch on fast. Blushing.

Hi mommydoc. I have some friends that live in Columbus. ;-)

152 mommydoc

What's your specialty? I think I've read you do a lot of ob

#139 IF

A rather salty preacher told that one. But not from the pulpit :-P

That's because its true, regardless of religious affiliation ;).

Geepers: Do tell. Really? Anyone I know?

Perry: Yes, a lot of OB. When I'm not doing GYN. This is what I'm dreading. Passed the written exam 4+ years ago, finally sat down to do a case list, and now will stand for the dreaded oral exam (down, Iron Fist) the first week of November.

After that, my blood pressure may normalize.

#124 Evariste

a) I again stake my claim to being the slooowest typer on LGF!

b) Thank you! Since you know stuff re computers, why does that damned message always come up from Amazon, as shown by #122 Mentat?

#126 mommydoc

Not a blip on the radar; Freepers is not a site that is anti-Semitic, IMHO. Best of luck on the boards!

#131 Buckaroo

If you are from WA, we still love you. Anyone who has patty murray as a US Senator gets a lot of empathy from me..with hil as our alleged US Senator, and Hanoi john & Chappaquidick ted as the jokes alleged US Senators of my native MA.

Hi, Iron Fist!

Thanks, NY Nana!

#154 Geepers

I am homeward bound T-minus 30 days and counting... should we call for a LGF Ohio meeting in Columbus?

Just throwing out suggestions. If this is not possible, then I would suggest a rally point in your vector.

#55 Charles

Maybe that should be added to the pledge?

"You may see your words all over the world"

"Posts live forever and may be used against you"

Just a thought.

mommydoc,

Geepers: Do tell. Really? Anyone I know?

Possibly. :-)

mommydoc

I understand the dread a little. My husband is an FP. I bet you do great.

See!

Buckeye Abroad, Sounds like a good idea. We should plan for it.

#74 Gordon:

"Kerry just needs to trot out his buddies to verify his story, and then we'll have a "he said they said" situation which is unresolvable."

No, Kerry should release all his military records as he promised in April 2004.

Then he should decide if his statement in the congressional record is true, ( I remember being in Cambodia) or is the version in his biography true (I was near Cambodia)

Any objections?

NY Nana, I don't know what y'all are linking to. I didn't do anything special, just searched, then clicked through to the book, then copied the link in the book title to paste into LGF. It looks like you're linking some kind of temporary search result URL based on what's coming up, you need to try and get the book's actual permalink. But without looking over your shoulder I don't know what stage exactly you're doing this wrong. Just do what I do and you should be fine :-)

jake wrote:

That last paragraph sounds weird b/c I had to keep editing it to figure out why LGF said it contained a "banned word or phrase".

Sorry about the inconvenience. But I've learned from hard experience that it's best to block links to some sites, because when the Morlocks become aware that you're watching they get agitated and act schtoopid.

#161 Buckeye Abroad

I'm in Cincinnati, would come to Columbus if possible. Email me if any progress is made toward a meet 'n greet,

Why in God's name can't Hannity, O'Reilly, et al. hire someone to follow the blogs where the real stories can be found. They are fighting for truth and justice, but are unarmed.

I am so tired of watching them secumb to slimy, "holier than thou" spinmasters, simply because they are un-prepared.

And I wanted to kick Alan Colmes' ass, watching him act all hurt and morally superior as he trashed Corsi using fraudulent information.

Guys,

Hanoi john's father was not Jewish. By converting to another religion, no matter which one, his grandparents were no longer Jews, and they converted in Europe, before flip flop's dad was born. In any event, even if they had converted after his birth, any of their kids would take the religion of the mother..so Hanoi john's siblings, like him, were born Catholic. His brother, Cameron, is married to a Jew, and underwent a reform movement conversion...which is not accepted by either Orthodox or Conservative Judaism. Yes, I know what h*** (may his name be obliterated) would have said...

Yay!!! News bulletin local Fox News, channel 5,NY: mike wallace was taken away in handcuffs; a limo was ilegally parked on the Upper Esst Side...a TLC cop questioned the driver, and out comes wallace, carrying a take-away meal from a restaurant..he was 'very aggresive to NYPD, and when asked to calm down, he was only more agitated..he was put into a police car, for a little ride to the 19th precinct, where he was arraigned for disorderly conduct!

# 153 Perry

Wanna have a contest to see who types slower? I use 2 fingers...

#160 mommydoc

G-d bless you..with what ambulance chasers like little john have done to OB/Gyn, of ll the specialties that have been hit by his ilk, is egregious. I especially appreciate what you are doing, as one daughter in law has PCOS, and because there are still some really good specialists in NJ still practicing, our kids have a bandit of a 2 year old daughter. Our older granddaughter was born in NYC, at the Beth Israel Medical Center, where they have a superb NICU...she was one of a pair of fraternal twins, born just before week 25. We lost her sister at the ironic age of 36 hours;the twin we lost caused the early C-section, as she was in fetal distress. We knew well beforehand that she was missing the major coronary artery in her umbilical cord, and had nearly no chance at survival..without the specialists, I do not want to think of what might have happened to a 650 gm micropreemie...who also has a genetic condition; Sticklers Syndrome. She is a fighter, and actually reads. She is 4 now, and still has ROP, that will be corrected. Without the specialists, a microreemie who had a brain bleed and a brain cyst, in addition to 3 systemic yeast infections?

Since little john will be back chasing ambulances in November, you are the one who deserves a medal! BTW, my husbandand I are both Type II diabetics, and we use an endocrinologist who is also our internist. He took 2 boards, as he feels that endocrinologists are threatened..and he is just turning 40...they are, as you nust have seen, pushing more and more med students away from specialties, which scares me. End of rant...for now!

#165 Iron Fist

{{{Iron Fist}}}

Sleep well!

#168 Evariste

Thanks..I copy the URL in my browser, etc., testing......and it still doesn't work...hmmm. Thanks for the help, though. Could it be an IE problem? We are on IE 6.0...and AOL. The same thing happens when I post from IE...

Maybe the patch that is due to install any day now may help? I know; Murphy's Law..it will screw things up even more!
#143 Jake

There's a very simple reason why Amazon.co.uk isn't selling House of Bush, House of Saud. In the UK, the libel laws are much stricter and place the burden of proof on the author, rather than the person claiming libel.

You are right! I had completely forgotten...not about that bastard ,but about the laws in the UK.

#169 Charles

because when the Morlocks become aware that you're watching they get agitated and act schtoopid.

You mean they're acting???

Nuts and Sluts defense. If that doesn't work, say you're "saddened," ask why people are questioning J K's patriotism, ask GW to disavow...

OT: Hillary had a fundraiser (mentioned in NY Post Hamptons Diary, IIRC) for her Senate campaign even though she's not up for reelection until 2006. Bill is still milking his book. Do they realize that they are drawing attention away from the Kerry campaign? I'm beginning to wonder if the story is true. They don't want Kerry to win.

I just thought of something apropos of the subject of this thread: the LLL and Kerry campaign are trying to make this guy who helped write the Swiftees book look bad using something he said on an Internet forum? Well what about what John Kerry said about the night of December 24th, 1968, where he said he was five miles inside the Cambodian border, being shot at from all sides and listening to the Presidenit of the United States on the radio denying there were any US troops in Cambodia!

Kerry said that moment in time was seared--nay, SEARED into his memory because the President was saying "I wasn't where I was".

Now if this chap Corsi (?) can be expected to account for what HE SAID in some political chatroom, then John Kerry, who made a POINT THAT THE EXPERIENCE WAS SEARED INTO HIS MEMORY should be able to explain why he told such a story when in fact, NO SUCH SPEECH WAS EVER GIVEN BY EITHER THE OUTGOING OR INCOMING PRESIDENTS.

No speeches were made by Johnson in 1968. NONE! He wasn't running again for office and had no need to make any speeches and on Christmas Eve 1968 he was home with LadyBird. Nixon didn't come in to the White House till January 1969. So who was Kerry listening to? I've checked and there were no speeches given by Johnson in 1968 and Nixon's first speech was April '69.

But Kerry has told this story several times, over and over again and it's even enshrined in the Congressional Record. The point of the story, of course, is to make the then President of the United States look as if he was lying first to the people of the United States and then to the rest of the world, and on Christmas Eve at that! And what's more, the ULTIMATE IRONY, was that John Fk'nKerry was there himself in the very spot the President said no Americans were, in Cambodia. Isn't that terrible?

Except no such speech was given, by either the outgoing or incoming Presidents of the United States. There was no such speech made on Christmas Eve 1968 and regardless of whether John F. Kerry was in Cambodia, Cambridge, Mass. or where he was, he could not have heard that speech. It never happened!

Now Kerry has made this statement, first in the Winter Soldier hearings, then in a 1986 Senate Commission Hearings and several times over the years and again recently. He tells the same story and when asked about the story until recently maintained that he was still in Cambodia when he heard the speech. But the speech was never given. And if it wasn't given was he ever in Cambodia. And if he wasn't, what was the purpose of that story? To smear the President or to smear the United States?

John Kerry has made a living staying on the edges of all controversy and smearing the Presidency (anyone will do) and the United States itself, to further his own ambitions. There can be no purpose to that "Cambodia" story than to smear the then sitting President, Lydon Baines Johnson, or to smear his own government and create a straw man so that he can ride in looking like the hero and save the day! Political Munschausen by Proxy! Kill your country but get your name in the news!

He furthers his own ambitions on the backs of the reputation of his country and those who serve that country, its Presidents and military people. He's really quite despiccable!

#175 Foreign Devil

Brilliant post! Thank you...you reeally know your stuff. Too bad the MSM is so LLL...this really needs to be seen.

We can only pray that Hanoi john will hang himself with his own words, the f*ing liar!

Hey Nana

Just watching Dennnis Miller - apparently john effen's quote for the day is that he agrees with Bush (re Iraq), but had he been Pres, it would have been a "more kind and sensitive war."

/channeling Incense and Peppermints

/channeling Incense and Peppermints

Oh yum. Throw in some Zero 7 and you have perfection.

#177 Delta

I keep forgetting to watch! Please send me a heads up next time..thanks!

Hi, Zulu!

This, re ambulance chasers like little john:Doctors Ask to Practice Insurance-Free

Doctors at Prince George's Hospital Center have voted unanimously to ask administrators to allow them to work without malpractice insurance coverage.

Members of the hospital's General Medical Staff, facing a 40 percent increase in malpractice insurance premiums next year, said that the rate hikes are making it too costly for them to continue to practice -- a sentiment expressed by doctors across Maryland as well as in other states, including Florida.

The 100 doctors who voted Monday night said they see no choice except to consider canceling their medical malpractice insurance altogether. "This is a move of desperation," said Mark Seigel, an obstetrician-gynecologist at Shady Grove Adventist Hospital in Rockville and president of MedChi, the Maryland State Medical Society. "It's really a cry for help. . . . This has never happened before."

Prince George's Hospital Center officials said it was unlikely they would honor the doctors' request.

"We empathize with our doctors and understand how the issue is affecting them," said Bob Howell, a spokesman for Dimensions Healthcare System, the nonprofit group that runs the hospital in Cheverly. Howell said the hospital board will meet with its attorneys and administrators to "figure out how we can help them based on our own situation."

State lawmakers continue to debate how to address rising malpractice insurance rates. Yesterday, a state task force appointed by Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. (R) met for the third time in hopes of crafting recommendations to ease the situation by November.

As a starting point, Ehrlich has asked the group to use elements of failed legislation from the last legislative session that sought to reduce payouts to those injured by doctors. To date, there has been little consensus among state leaders over how to proceed.

Michael Preston, executive director of MedChi, said that as rates increase, the idea of going without insurance is stirring among medical staffs in the state.

The general surgeons at Shady Grove Adventist took a similar vote about two weeks ago, Seigel said. They moved to ask administrators to allow them to practice without liability insurance and to not force them to cover the emergency room, where the risk of liability is high.

"This is a manifestation of the gravity of the problem," Preston said.

But Mark Cohen, a medical malpractice attorney in Baltimore who said his 2-year-old daughter died late last year after receiving a lethally high dose of potassium through an intravenous drip, termed the situation less dire than doctors are saying. He predicted that doctors will not follow through on their threat because they would lose their hospital privileges and contracts with health care plans.

"It's scare tactics," Cohen said. "I think what they want to do is generate sympathy, but they will just generate anger. It's a money issue. It's not that they're not making money. It's just that they aren't making enough money."

Willie Blair, a private trauma surgeon who is on call at Prince George's Hospital Center and has privileges to work at the hospital, said his malpractice premium this year was $108,000. Next year, it will jump to $151,200, he said.

Blair, who attended Monday night's meeting, said he is prepared to go "bare," which means he, instead of his insurer, would be responsible for court judgments and settlements if he is sued.

He said the doctors' vote is somewhat of a symbolic gesture. But he said he believes that many doctors, including him, will be pushed into canceling their coverage...

G-d help us here..

#178, zulubrat

Oh yum. Throw in some Zero 7 and you have perfection.

lolol

Now perfection I would call somewhere in between The Smiths, Joao Gilberto, and Felix ;-)

NY Nana, hiya :-)

Delta Burka, you got me. LOL.

#179, Nana

I keep forgetting to watch! Please send me a heads up next time..thanks!

Will do, girl.

/channeling TV Guide

#181, zulubaby

Delta Burka, you got me. LOL.

LOL!

/channeling Bose

NY Nana, if the word "search" appears in the URL, you're getting a temp URL that isn't going to work with anything. You need to right click the actual title of the book, then copy that.

The way this Kerry creature changes it's shape and texture, even it's very past at will... surely it is lizardoid technology that developed him? Can the earth beings have caught up with us at last? Aahhh! Retreat! Back to Sirius!

Evariste

Thank you! Too tired to try it now...later!

Delta, Zulu

G'nite, kiddies, I am sleep typing, you left coasters, you!

Night Nana.

Delta Burka, I'm still giggling about

zulubrat

;-)

foreign devil -

Political Munschausen by Proxy

Good one!

I think a good analogy to this situation would be the criticism of Madonna's "Kabbalah". Many have questioned the seriousness of her commitment to the Jewish religion, but it has not resulted in charges of "anti-Catholicism" or "Jewish ethnocentrism".

The guys Catholic. But according to the Kerry campaign he's a bigoted, hatemongering "Anti-Catholic". They've pegged him as frickin' Adolph Eichmann. I love it.

Anyone who knows alot of Catholics, especially Irish-Catholics- knows that occasional good natured, and not-so-good natured jabs at the Pope and the Church are not unusual.

WHat a joke. Thats all they got?

The guys CATHOLIC!!

Better than I could have said it:

Why would the media approach the swift-boat vets opposing Kerry by completely changing the subject instead of engaging the battle on the turf of Kerry's record? If they're so confident Kerry is unassailable and the vets are politically daft, why not demand Kerry's records to shut it down?... Behind the pro-Democrat bravado is a real lack of confidence in what a careful evaluation of the public record will show. They change the subject to motivations and personal attacks because merely raising the subject, the question of whether Kerry served or protested honorably and without great political calculation is a loser for Democrats. If the portrait of Kerry tips even a bit from jut-jawed hero to unreliable ally in a crisis, a self-promoter with presidential ambitions in the most trying situations, Kerry's chances with veterans and military families may be quite hampered.

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

Just skimmed through the posts, so don't know if this has been asked/answered yet...

I've done some media searches and found virtually nothing about the Swiftboat allegations, except at few short articles about the McCain quote.

I wonder if Big Media will hammer this guy?

“After he married TerRAHsa, didn’t John Kerry begin practicing Judaism? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?”

1) Couldn't the first question be...just a question? Isn't it possible Corsi heard something like this and was simply trying to confirm it?
2) Couldn't the second question simply be an innocent observation?
3) Wouldn't (in the context of someone hearing one thing, knowing a fact supporting same) the last question be appropriate for someone SIMPLY TRYING TO GET AN ANSWER?

Please note that I agree with others who sense an anti-semetic tone here. But that could simply be me reading something in that really isn't there.
I don't know that it really matters what Corsi's real tone was here sense Corsi simply lent his writting skills to the project. He isn't a source of any of the vet claims in the book.

That whole SUBJECT..What this persons and that persons religion?..and further..IS HE/SHE JEWISH?--- Is what I said it is.

This crap appears in Eastern Europe where the political parties do INVESTIGATIONS to see if you..or your parents or grandparents were perhaps JEWISH? and you didnt tell anyone..( ie YOU LIAR YOU. Cant trust liars in office..PLUS do you REALLY want to vote for a SECRET JEW?) Ive heard this pops up in Russia once in a while...IF they think there is someone Jewish in your "family"...All agree that when this happens THERE in THOSE places..it is ANTISMEMTISM.

***This IS a smear tactic. It is done to HURT the Candidate. It is also done to appeal to ANTISEMEMTIC Deeply held ATTITUDES. This ..(Are you..or have you EVER BEEN a Jew?) is also making its way into Europe propper. Next..is this coming here? Well..maybe...IF we dont say NO right now.
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FrankIBC: Listen up..The CRAP in LA..ISNT Kaballah. Never was...It is a distorted OUTLINE of K. that was STOLEN, LIFTED OUT OF-- the Jewish Community..and in its place there was a REPLACEMENT Kaballah. That crook out there advertizes that is Kaballah but his Kaballah...ISNT Jewish ..and Madonna and those other little CUPCAKES that are into this as a FAD... AGREE MOST HEARTILY with this.

Madonna made this big' FACE' on TV when asked why she was doing something "Jewish"...Her face scrunched up...and she DENIED that K. was Jewish at ALL. She most CERTAINLY WASNT doing ANYTHING Jewish..donchaknow... (cant have THAT...ugh. ooo...nooo..according to her) Thats major INSULTING to us...

We dont go into a Church ..find a lovely Ceremony... (theres lots of lovely Ceremonies in lots of Churches).pull it OUT of the Chruch Environment..KEEP the same name..but LABEL IT Non Catholic or Non Protestant or Non Hindu (for that matter)and present it as a separate thing..AND make money on it. Its THEFT...Its Replacement...its UGLY and its WRONG..and we are gonna say NO to it.

Want to BE Jewish???.. Welcome and come on IN..Want to steel parts of our religion ,distort it and deny it was Jewish in the first place ???.NO...I DONT THINK SO.

My Father was interested in Kaballah at one time. I KNOW what it means to be really studying this. NOT what is going on out there. Total CON..and a TOTAL Sham. I...DONT LIKE IT..and I...am gonna say so. Silence gets Jews NOWHERE.

I resent the attack on this guys admittedly foul rascism. His book and lame fake ad are helping the Kerry campaign tremendously. We need him