I know how I'm seeing the word "reflect."

Banging head against desk

Sigh ...

First?

Soviet-style agitprop seems to have a longer shelf life than many suspected.

Not *all* media. Not *the* media - there is no the media, no matter what class warfare people want you to believe.

The jihadis have their media, though. All the usual suspects - BBC, AP, NYT, LAT, etc.

We have our's. But its a damn shame that people actually wish to give a murderous swine's point of view on anything.

What we're talking about here is the crux of the problem. Islamists and terrorists, without the full cooperation of Western media and Western technology, would have no mechanism to spew their poison throughout the world. And without that help, there would be no sympathy for them anywhere in the world. Because the terrorists' own words and methods are so brutish and grotesque, they need the Westerners to "fix up" the message to make it more palatable. And without any public support in the West, the terrorists could and would be rapidly exterminated by Western military.

But, in a strange way, I have a glimmer of optimism. Because the "marriage" between terrorism and the media is an untenable relationship. It can't last, because under the surface, there is fear and loathing on both sides. How long can a completely dysfunctional marriage endure?

Let's hope it's a messy divorce. And we get custody of the kids.

Too bad the didnt' extend that professional courtesy to Danny Pearl, RIP.

Who knew?

{later that night in the basement of the mosque...}

"They fell for that line! Bwahahahahah! And did you catch all the nodding as we made the statement...media...brothers..friends.?"

{silence}

"Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!"

BOOM

#7, Thom LOL!

#8, Michael Moore's Hurse. See above.

Wow.

I'm stunned.

al Sadr is at least smart enough to know that the Peter Jennings and al Guardian's of the world are on his side.

What a great way to start the weekend - with a bit of truth after a whole week of lies and deflections from Kerry campaign.

Thanks zombie (#5) for a great post. That is the kind of post that makes me check this site at least twice daily. I especially like the dysfunctional marriage idea.

Damn you Joel! First you take Joel and I'm stuck with Joel2 and then you have to smear it in my face by taking my spot on the post? You MUST be a jooo!

“They reflect our opinions and convey our voices to all of the world.”

Or fabricate them if necessary.

Doe's anyone remember when the IRA used a TAXI-bomb right next to the Beeb building a few years ago?

I think that they were on to something to be honest ;)

“They reflect our opinions and convey our voices to all of the world.”

Definition. Propaganda Agents.

zombie (#5):

What we're talking about here is the crux of the problem.

The crescent, actually.

Heard that, among the good guys, in Iraq journalists from the New York Times and the Washington Post are known as combat proctologists. Because after a fire fight they come out from behind a rock and sodomize the wounded... not all the wounded, just our guys.

Great War Cartoon at Israel is Real...

A little off topic, but none-the-less interesting.

I have found that these new daily "metaphors" are a different way to look at the 'war on terror'. I like the use of grammar, syntax and the play on words. Very cool.

After a couple of beers, I have to wonder, does this somehow prove the exitence of Satan, that people who should be dedicated to showing the world the truth instead help lie and distort the truth, and promote the causes of evil.

#21 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C,

[Dark, malevolent laughter]

Indeed, my friend of many names, it does confirm my existence. I own the souls of most prominent journalists.

I keep them in a positively adorable little gold box next to the humidor where I keep the souls of all the lawyers.

:-P

Check out this amazingly revelatory photo from AP:

Anti-US "protest" in Iran, with genders completely segregated. This is the wonderful social structure the media is promoting.

#22

That humidor's so small for all those lawyers' souls though.

But hmm, they are pretty small, so I guess it works out.

How dare he question the patriotism of the media! He must be an evil Fox-News-watching Republican CIA agent working for Bush!!! (Do I really need to mention that this is sarcastic?)

#25 Megan

He is not questioning their patriotism, he is lauding their faithful service to the Ummah.

#24 Paranoid Brit,

Oh, yes. By the time I get them, the lawyers have sold so much of their souls in bits and pieces that what's left ain't much. I usually have to pack ten or twelve of them together to roll a decent joint.

I use the journalists to light them!

:-P

This week, some lying troll accused ME of denying the leftward bias of the media, then tried to cover himself with a self-debasing apology that repeated this idiotic slander.

I suppose this just shows that the left does not have a complete monopoly on ignorance or depravity.
I don't know what this person does for a living, possibly law or small business management, but in the education
world, those who compulsively make absurd accusations as a display of power are so common that administrators have a name for them: slander-monkeys.

This is especially common among middle-age burnouts in the public schools. I do not know of a clinical study of this tendency, but anecdotal evidence suggests that it is connected to hormonal disturbances and the other common phenomena of mid-life crisis.
Clinical evidence does suggest that it is a common symptom of alcoholism, but not all the perpetrators are alcoholics.
(Aside: the correlation between journalism and heavy drinking is a cliche in cultural folklore, and such cliches do not arise out of thin air.)

Reminds me of a story:
A few years ago, a friend of mine was working as an intern at a halfway house for mental patients in Tulsa OK. The facility was right across the street from the campus of Oral Roberts University. One of the clients started attending Bible studies at ORU. He made quite an impression with his speaking style and grasp of fundamentalist principles. Within weeks he had been offered a scholarship to study for the ministry. What had brought this man into the mental health system in the first place, and thence to ORU? He was a clinically diagnosed pathological liar with a number of fraud convictions.

People look here

Backlash of Kerry claims
By Kathleen Antrim | Special To The Examiner

Of course, this whole matter could be cleared up if Kerry would release his Vietnam records and his personal journal. It's a simple matter to release these records, requiring only a standard Form 180.

So, Mr. Kerry, if you haven't been making up stories, and if the Swift Vets are lying, then release your records and prove your case. Trust the American people to discern the truth. Or have the courage to admit you lied, over and over again.

Let me be clear, Mr. Kerry, as a journalist, a columnist and most importantly as an American citizen, I am asking you to release your Vietnam records and your journal (in its entirety) to the American people.

But don't take my word for it; check it out for yourself at [Link: www.swiftvets.com...]

Kathleen Antrim is a weekly columnist for The Examiner and the author of the political thriller "Capital Offense." For more information on Ms. Antrim, or to see where she'll be appearing next, go to [Link: www.kathleenantrim.com...]

San Francisco Examiner

Zombie:

and terrorists, without the full cooperation of Western media and Western technology, would have no mechanism to spew their poison throughout the world. And without that help, there would be no sympathy for them anywhere in the world.

Not at all--it isn't a marriage of ideological unity or even of mutual self-interest, but of one party threatening to kill the other party if it doesn't do the former's bidding.

It was Tom Friedman, oddly enough, who confessed in From Beirut to Jerusalem that reporters covering the Lebanese civil war feared for their very lives if they pissed off the Moslem terror gangs with their coverage.

That applies to Western journalists throughout the Moslem world.

The "relationship" will continue for as long as Western governments refuse to police their press. Three years after 9-11, they have yet to take the first step.

without journalists there'd be no terrorism. that's a fact.

OT maybe this will refresh your memory Here on the Beeb bomb.

/ Going to wash my hand's now after looking up the Beeb site

Journalists are our brothers, our friends,” said Sheik Salah al Ubaidi, an al-Sadr spokesman in Baghdad. “They reflect our opinions and convey our voices to all of the world

...and if not, we saw their heads off...

Billy Wilder might have had a thing or two to say about the profession. See this movie.

ACE IN THE HOLE (aka THE BIG CARNIVAL)
1951
Kirk Douglas, Jan Sterling
The runt of Wilder's litter, this was his most unpopular film with audiences, but a critic's favorite. Based on a true story. A man is trapped in an old Indian burial cave, and reporter Douglas schemes to keep him there to prolong interest in his story.

Utterly cynical take.

In postwar Germany, Mr. Wilder was a colonel in the United States Army who oversaw a program that prevented former Nazis from working on films or in the theater. When asked by the director of the traditional Passion play in the town of Oberammergau if a former Nazi, Anton Lang, could play Jesus, Mr. Wilder responded, "Permission granted, but the nails have to be real."

Yowza!

#32 jasonbsl

without journalists there'd be no terrorism. that's a fact.

I don't think you understand what "fact" means...

As Thomas Frank makes clear in

# 36 reag

Oh, and welcome to LGF!
:-)

# 31 R

Link please! Is that LLL skulls I hear exploding?
:-)

#38 Buckaroo

Oh, and welcome to LGF!

My bad, yeah that too! :-Þ

reaganite

Any thoughts about Bush's plan to pull 100,000 troops out of Europe and Asia? Preempting one of JFK's issues, maybe?

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

#41 Connecticut Yankee

Any thoughts about Bush's plan to pull 100,000 troops out of Europe and Asia?

Three words, oh hell yeah! They don't want us, don't like us, let them handle their own problems. Okay, that was more than three words...

# 43 I.F.

And replace him with who exactly??

"Any thoughts about Bush's plan to pull 100,000 troops out of Europe and Asia? Preempting one of JFK's issues, maybe?"

Better late than never.
There isn't any Slavic blitzkrieg poised to overrun Germany and France; and who cares if there is?

Journalists are out brothers, our friends...Thye reflect our opinions and convey our voices to all of the world.

Nothing really new here. Journalists have been carrying water for dictators, murderers and Anti-Western thugs for the past 85 years; starting with John Reed, through Walter Duranty to Robert Fisk.

#44 Buckaroo

And replace him with who exactly??

Shrillery.

#46 Paul

Don't forget those classic tendsetters of activist media, Goebbels and Streicher.

One of my favorite taglines "A few words for the media: Julius Streicher, follow his path, share his fate."

#47 reaganite

If the Donks replace JFK with HRC, can John Edwards sue for breach of contract?

# 47 reag

Only to get battered worse since every rightist in the land will be mobilized 10 times more than they have against Lurch??

"can John Edwards sue for breach of contract?"

Nah, but JFin'K can sue for alienation of affection.

43 Iron Fist

The "where" is as interesting (or more so) than the "what". It's kind of hard to paint anything from San Francisco as a shill for the VRWC.

Ain't that the damn truth...Double Wow...:).

#49 Connecticut Yankee

If the Donks replace JFK with HRC, can John Edwards sue for breach of contract?

Nah, he wouldn't bother, it's either real meat or a strap-on. He doesn't care.

#50 Buckaroo

Only to get battered worse since every rightist in the land will be mobilized 10 times more than they have against Lurch??

The L³ really thinks Shrillery can win. Delusional is the word for the day.

# 53 I.F.

Well sir I really disagree. True the ability to mud-sling in Sept. & Oct. is severlly lessened, but can you **imagine** the blog-dirt that will still be thrown her way -- I mean, pick a topic -- Healthccare, whitewater, futures trading, pardons, etc. etc.

Reaganite and all:

The LLL thinks Kerry can win, too. They are all delusional including my oldest sister. (who looks at me blankly when I start to discuss facts with her)

I think even if Kerry starts to implode with this Swift Boat Vets stuff, they Dems won't replace him. Isn't that unheard of, especially since the delegates cast their votes for him?

It'll be deny, deny, all the way up to election day. Shrillary is staying pretty quiet on this whole election, unless the media's just not covering her. She'll try in 4 yrs, not now.

Iron Fist

addendum to my #52

Let's hope that this catches on. Cali starts a shitload of trends in this country, (like it or not...lol) maybe, MAYBE this will start the 'trend'.

#54 reaganite

At least Edwards won't have to worry about having to run with McGreevey. He'd be longing to hug Lurch again.

#57 Bernadette

Isn't that unheard of, especially since the delegates cast their votes for him?

AlGore tried to sue his way into the White House. The donks will stop at nothing. 2004 will make 2000 look like small claims court.

#59 Connecticut Yankee

At least Edwards won't have to worry about having to run with McGreevey. He'd be longing to hug Lurch again.

A whore is a whore is a whore...

Media-bashing threads are great, a chance to get at the real enemy and rip out his jugular.

It's fun to call for the death and dismemberment of evil terrorists such as bin Laden and Arafat, and God knows they have it coming, but those two are minor devils in one sense: they are interchangeable with millions of other deluded fanatics.
The media or, more properly, the prevailing assumptions of the current internal media culture, are the real enemy.
If the current crop of media whores fold, if journalism is liberated from its degraded state and restored to honor and dignity, the terrorists will fold with them.

reaganite

having to run with McGreevey.

Ummm did you mean "with" or from...not that there is anything wrong with that as Seinfeld says...:).

#63 Elcid
I just used the quote function!

64 reaganite

#63 Elcid

I just used the quote function!

Ok, so I just used the quote function twice...and you are correct, my post should have attributed Connecticut Yankee.

That should make you feel better, right?

Ah, nothing like praise from the praiseworthy!

The mainstream media have done themselves proud. Let us raise a glass of wine (French, of course) in salute to the uncompromising journalists and editors who, out of a pure heart, the noblest of motives, and a solemn and unsullied objectivity, have nuanced themselves so deeply into the affections of Iraq's courageous Minutemen!

#14 joel2

Sorry but I have seniority on LGF since I have posted longer then you have. I actually wish I had a more clever moniker then my name.

68 Joel

"I actually wish I had a more clever moniker then my name."

You just invented you new NIC..."clever moniker"...;).

The sentiment of the islamokazi cannot be all that surprising.

If the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. speaks in council that calling the state of Israel (copyright, 1947, U.N. Resoulution) being the home of monkeys and pigs is unacceptable language in a resolution before the council...

If the U.S. ventures to indict a terrorist...

If a bunch of airplanes are hijacked and fly into U.S. buildings and government centers...

al Jazeera or the Cairo papers or the Tehran Times will follow script that we are overreacting, prejudiced, and imperialist.

Just like CNN, the New York Times, and Newsweak.

Whatever is there for them NOT to consider western media as their friend?

Hell, all they have to do to buy the soul of a CSJ alumni is allow access for a scoop and mumble something about Wounded Knee or the Kyoto Treaty, right?

For what it's worth, I think that media will have to realign at least somewhat after this election, either via market forces or hoepfully via a little bit of honesty.

Stop laughing. It could happen. Their world is coming down around them.

They have clearly lashed themselves to the mast of JF'nK's yacht with strips of their own petticoats. They sink or swim with him.

This is the BBC trying to regain credibility in trying to change the perception that it`s Mid East News is biased. I don`t beleive it. More likely they set it up.
If the journalist had been killed it would have been beleivable. The BBC in mine eyes are Islamic apologists-like the Guardian.

“Journalists are our brothers, our friends,” said Sheik Salah al Ubaidi, an al-Sadr spokesman in Baghdad. “They reflect our opinions and convey our voices to all of the world.”

Like their Sister Orla Guerin, who really should be a Catholic nun but instead gets herself 'Held at gunpoint in Nablus'

Later a few threats were murmured in my direction.

"She'll get out of here in a body bag," one soldier said in Hebrew, assuming incorrectly, that we would not understand.