I am not a Canadian.

More retarded political correctness hindering us.

Check it out: I'm going to make a religion, and edict 1 of this religion is that being searched is an affront against God.

I half expect some terrorist imam to do that, and I half expect one government or another to 'respect the religion diversity of the community.'

Idiots.

This is insane. Looks like we have to invade Canada too.

Well, it IS France Deux, after all... ;-)

Four Muslim women complained this summer after they were told to take pff their hijabs so pictures of them could be taken for their permanent-residency cards.

If they don't like the rules, why don't they go back to whatever country they came from? This is getting ridiculous.

As for

take pff their hijabs

Does nobody proof-read anymore?

Nice asshat you got there, Canada.

How depressing. The PM should keep his ypa shut and let IandP do their jobs.

Fuck this. If you want to visit a country, you should be willing to identify who the hell you are.

I agree that if you aren't willing to acept these things, stay home in your private hellhole.

We don't need this kind in the West, not at all.

Oh, and you can take your oil and douche with it.

Drill ANWAR NOW! Drill offshore NOW!

Fuck these Arabs, we don't need them.

#5 zulubaby

If they don't like the rules, why don't they go back to whatever country they came from? This is getting ridiculous.

Care to wager whether they are *ahem* political refugees?

Well, I might be, like Marc Steyn suggests, thinking of changing my allegiances. Better Quebecois and Liberal, in a tiny little country, than blown up like a f-in' puffer fish, poisonous to all, and Liberal.

Call me a redneck, but I despise this government. (Country is nice, though, quiet people, mostly polite save in certain bars, late at night, and certain parts of the urban town, and certain bad social places where child abuse takes place, and certain aboriginal communities where nothing seems to cure, and all of the LLL media, TV (Fox illegal) national newpapers (one), radio...(well, couple of good shows, locally, everywhere) ...

Can Alberta become the 51st State? Pleeeze? (I'll move immediately)

As Steyn points out - some 32% of Canada are basically Shrub-like. I count myself proudly among them.

#5 zulubaby

It's that little "ppfff" that gives me hope. That's the Montreal Gazette lest I'm missing it: - I remember when a Mountie, Sikh, (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) demanded to wear a turban rather than the regulation hat.

The country broiled and steamed, in fact we "seethed" for months...

Give it 48 hours. Martin KNOWS he's dogmeat, and this won't in the end buy him New Democratic Party voters...he's made a terrible mistake (either that, or it's a long distance plot for Fortress America, after the next election...(ooo! I hope! I hope!)

I haven't lived in Canada for awhile, I live in a city-state called Southern-Ontario. Stupid freaking idiots...and they wonder why people getup and run to the US...it's not only the money you idiots.

They'll harass me if I bring back a box full of books, but not the Muslims.

Identification photos must show the full face -- a hijab is not a uniquely identifiable & inherent facial feature. This is a load of bull-oney.

I have lived, worked & traveled in some two dozen countries & followed local customs (like taking off shoes before entering an Asian home) out of respect for my hosts. And proper identification on entry has been mandatory everywhere.

Those who refuse to identify themselves properly should be denied admission, just as we would be if we refused to properly identify ourselves at their borders.

Boot these bogus refugees back home. In Canada, everyone must obey Canadian laws. In the US, everyone must obey US laws. In Singapore, everyone must obey Singaporean laws, even though the law bans chewing gum. Gum chewers go home!

Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations

Why don't they just call themselves Council on Canadian-Islamic Relations?

Stupid.

#13 ibu guru:

What? How dare you say such a thing! In Canada we bend over backwards to accept the ways of forigners! They came here, we should always make sure things are eaiser for them...help them out! This is a multi-cultural socieity Mr., minority over majority! I kid you not, I've heard as much from my ex-MP before we tossed his backside to the road in the last election.

#9 Spiny Norman

Dunno if you are in Canada, but the way it works, if you can afford to get here, you are in...

How many REAL REFUGEES get into Canada. Precious few. It's those middleclass escaping totalitarian regimes, often exactly those who were in the last 'wonderful regime'.

It's a nightmare. Country is flooded to the gills with the 'educated' detritus of humanity...(while the REAL and SUFFERING at risk...well - hey - would you want them as your neighbours?)
(answering for myself, not as a Canadian Immigration Official: - YES! I can teach ESL and also in process do alot of indoctrination to Canadian Values. That doesn't work with the "political refugees" who are the mainstay of Canadian Immigration, unchanged since 9/11.)
(well, that may be changing. The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) is no overweighted beaurocracy - I'd give them a little latitude.)

PM Martin probably picked the most innocent and benign of the 'hijab wearers' with whom to make his case, but he's way underestimated the cooking backlash in the country.

And before any trolls accuse me of racism: - the "hijab" is a slightly older "ancient muslim tradition" than the "ancient palestinian people". By about a few decades.

Someone should ask PM Paul Martin: - Will full BURKA ALSO be "permissable for photos"?

Vote Alliance. Next time. Lemmings!

oh!! First! :-)

This has been brought up on previous threads about IDs, but it's worth repeating-- how can Martin guarantee that all hijab-wearers are women? Heck, McGreevey could sneak across the border in a hijab if things get too hot for him in Joisey. Svend can probably find a spare room for him somewhere.

I'm just waiting for the terrorists to claim that they're vampires and can't be photographed at all as that violates their (satanic) religion.

#18 C. Yankee

LOL!

#18 Connecticut Yankee

But...but...wouldn't this require them using Gillette MACH 4 shaving blades? And isn't Gillete a multinational AMERICAN corporation, headquartered in AMERICA!

Bush Lied!

#15 mashiki --
And marched backward to your just reward while you were bent over?

BTW, the hijab, contrary to the Islam Online article, has never been mandatory except for prayers. Indonesians, for example, were never in purdah, and only wore a scarf or headcovering at the mosque. When I lived there, hardly anyone wore any kind of scarf, except at mosque (they threw it on over their clothes after arriving there).

Furthermore, there are at least five styles of scarves and headcoverings to choose from, among those who wear them. Hijabs, chadhoors, etc. are a cultural practice varying by country & sect. Cf. Saudi Arabia vs. Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Qatar; Iran pre- vs. post-Khomeini; Indonesia vs. Malaysia; etc.

Muslims are blowing smoke over the hijab to prevent identification & facilitate illegal immigration, including terrorist infiltration. If your photo isn't much good, it's a whole lot easier for your sister, cousin, second wife, et al. to reuse your ID & get in. This is not about "religious" rights/freedom/[insert PC verbiage]. It is about illegal immigration, subversion of the law & culture, & forcing submission of the kafir to Islamic dictates.

Time to shut the borders down solid and cold.Please let this happen.let someone with an ounce of common sense make a rational decision in this regard.

#18 Connecticut Yankee:

Bahaha.

Tiburon :

This kinda goes back to post #16, I've been a member of the Alliance or the New Conservatives, since the days of the Reform. Every time it comes up for an election it's the same thing. We either need better PR, or we have to stop playing nice. The Liberals up here are exactly the same as the Dem's states side...blood sucking leeches...who will do anything to maintain power even if it bankrupts the country.

As for Martin, yeah probably. He's cut from the same mold as Trudeau, and Chretien.

#22 ibu guru :

Remember those funny politicans you see States side who state the immigrants should get everything on a platter? My ex-MP was one of them, they should be above all laws but their own, etc, etc, etc. All in the name of pandering to the votes. Unfortunatly, pandering to an area that has more Dutch as the 'ethnic' background then anything leads to grumpy people. Especially in an area that is traditionally conservative.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I have my facts mixed up ...

But isn't the Hijab an invention of Iranian Islamic clerics which started only in the 70s ... the 1970s that is ... and is not proscribed by the Koran? If I am not mistaken, the Koran only specifies that a woman's hair and bosom to be covered. The hijab or veil is more of a cultural tradition, predating Islam by several centuries.

What a disgusting country. Glad I left!

#23 mbruce

I'm not for a complete shut download, but in essence I concur. Our border with canada is a solid as a sponge and thier security holes could reap us the whirl wind.

Leave them alone to fight it out amongst themselves; I'm loving it too, but not for the reasons Islam Online is; I'm enjoying watching Martin and the Quebec government have a go at each other. I can't stand either of them and so hope they fight it out. That way, the rest of us can get something done and by the time the next election comes around, Martin will have so soured Quebec they won't vote for him. (At least that's what I'm hoping for).

Rightio grimg,who would suffer a the greater loss if we tightened the screws at the Canook border?I would lean to the side that they need us way way way more than we need them.Let's play that card for once,now that it has some importance to OUR survival!

You can chew gum in Singapore now, but spitting it on the sidewalk is a crime.

They are getting liberal.

:P

How about a hajib tied real tightly about the neck.

Just kidding, just kidding.

;)

#24 Mashiki

yes. if you missed it, read another Marc Steyn article, on Canada Smaller and Colder

I worked as a teenager, to see PET elected, he breathed life we sorely needed into the country, and did also some things (vis a vis the FLQ) that would make Bush proud. History passed him by, and I guess what he saw in the promise of Canada also...sad in a way as I believe he really loved this Canada - His vision of 'multiculturalism' was seminal to many, but naive, ultimately.

He couldn't bring it, and had the sadness of seeing it swept away, sad that - I liked the guy, despite his economic policies, and so many of his political positions that I grew to understand beyond his attractive populism.

The others? Our later PM's? Don't ask. Trudeau built, unfortunately, a Liberal legacy that Canadians hunger for, and will vote for (and against, as per the Mulroon, in the hope of a return to the 'dream') in an endless repetative cycle till they steel themselves for the necessary change.

After the last go-round I'll predict in confidence that next one will bring a Majority Alliance/Conservative government. This WILL bring social and financial, classic conservative change, to Canada.

Anyway, sorry, I"m gone...the cold has taken it out from me (it's 9 degrees celsius here in Ottawa)...(so much for 'Global Catastrophic Warming', eh? Or maybe we are, we evil humans, now causing the Cooling!...never mind, let's give our sovreignity over to the UN and it's Climate Moguls. I'm sure they can "fix it"...)
Irrespective, though it's the weekend I'm done...gotta get to the Trap range tomorrow, it's been to long...

G'nite all.

Nite Tiberon,

I'll give you a few degrees C and some of the 80% humidity we have right now.

Spit on a hippie, get even for 'Nam.

;P

Bloody bloody hell...it is no fun living in a country you hate as I do...damn the vile left and their vile multiculturism and there political correctness gone mad...so bloody sickening...

Sigh...at least I live in the saner West...some comfort at least...

As one poster alluded to...yes, the time will come when you have to invade Canada to free us from the vile left and there islamic allies...that is hardly an exxageration...

If Canada doesn't smarten up, someone will make sure we do...and we are just asking for it...

Off Topic:

The Reverend David Alston, who spoke at the Democrat National Convention, and claims to have been aboard Kerry's boat for the mission which Kerry was award the Silver Star, may have not been there at all.

There are large discrepancies in his story. Consider that a chunk of his skull is now missing from a shrapnel wound on January 29th, 1969 (this took out of service); Kerry took command of PCF-94 on the 30th (the boat Alston was on and formerly commanded by Lt. Edward Peck); and that a man named Fred Short explicitly stated he replaced Alston as PCF-94's gunner. (link)

Ann's Fuse Box also has some good posts on the matter.

If you haven't been reading Captain's Quarters Blog, you should. He has been all over the Kerry-Cambodia-Swiftboat Veterans story.

You know - as a Canadian - bringing my American wife back here last year (after 30 years elsewhere - pretty well anywhere you can imagine) I was told that she had 18 months to apply for permanent residency.

The application costs over $2,000 - all-in medical etc, etc, etc... and they have taken almost a year to even get to her application. They can turn her down (University educated, financial professional - no a-social records on ANY level) without a reason! They won't let her work until - and if - she is accepted, and it appears that we won't even hear about their 'considered' decision before next year - at the earliest!!

And no damned hijab, black tent, nor incapacity to speak English! Just the opposite, in fact, and anxious to get to work and try to join the community that is officially delighted with the Third World - and appears to sneer at Canadians' English-speaking and educated spousal imports!

On the national front, Martin - along with his pal Trendy Svendy - has just validated the statement from his Tax Department (Customs & Revenue Canada) threatening to remove any Christian Church's tax-free status - should they dare to speak of politics from the pulpit - or refer to Biblical chapter and verse that enjoins homosexuality! Hell, you can't even say Faggot! any more!

I really wonder why on earth I came back - while my wife wonders whether we didn't make a wrong (LEFT)turn somewhere. George Orwell perfectly captured Martin's present impetus towards an irrational re-make of Uncle Joe's Peoples' Paradise in his - "1984" - you know the story.

DoubleSpeak here includes mandatory crash courses provided by the CBC in their daily Hate America lessons, while if you live outside the major urban areas - don't get caught wearing perfume, after-shave or deoderant by the Multicultural Police - as it "Offends"!!! - - who???

A very strange and different place! Unfortunately much of it can be traced back to Trudeau - and his nasty little pals who carried on his destructive aims. "Liberty" here has been sytematically obliterated, while 'self-reliance' and 'accountability' are terms that have been banned, along with deoderant!

Someone reflected earlier that America perhaps may have to invade Canada. Not a problem. Probably only take a platoon of Marines and no heavy weapons.

It wouldn't hurt for our military to include a tour of border patrol for all new trainees. Think about it. Trainees with live ammo. That should be enough to scare the shit out of anybody.

#37 CanGyrene

One bar full of pissed off Canucks was all it took for me and my bro in law to head for the motel and the border the next day.

Canucks aren't all pussies. Many of them are a lot like us.

To 25...yeah that's basically correct but I think Amhir Taheri tries to say that the cloth covering Islamic women is a late invention which as you allude to would be incorrect...Muslim women from the first days of Islam were to be covered up...albeit the face was allowed to be showed...big frickin deal eh...can't imagine the hell it is to wear those black chadors in that desert heat???

I think its just about as bad that women have to cover there hair and bosom...never mind the face...Islam is brutal in every way...I do not like that Taheri tries to paint it in another fashion...

Islam is to women what Stalin was to property owners!

Thanks

Also the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, Stephen Harper, welcomed the Prime Minister’s statement.

"We welcome the statement by the Prime Minister’s office clarifying this important issue that has affected many recent immigrants to Canada ," stated CAIR-CAN spokesperson Abdurahman Salman.

"We hope that the CIC officials in question, who clearly acted outside of Canada ’s guidelines regarding religious accommodation, will now conduct themselves in accordance with the stated principles articulated by the Prime Minister," he added.

Holy shit. That's the Conservative Party's position?

#32 Tiburon : Thanks for the pointing. Usually when I hit the bottom of an article I stop. lol :)

Trudeau was the classic socialist. I say this from the days when I was a socialist-liberal. I had membership in the reform party then tho...*know thy enemy* lol :) Anyway, he was good in all his sense that he was a socialist. He consolidated power to the PMO and stripped it away from the people, that allowed future generations of PM's to do the same.

In truth, I've never understood this 'liberal legacy' that Canadians hunger for. At one time I could see a point of draw for it, but no longer. The 'liberal' legacy that has been handed since the days of Trudeau strips Canadians of 'their' rights, all except those which the government approves. That bothers me, it bothers me a great deal.

I believe you are right that the Conservative/Alliance will be elected next time. But that so many fell for the Liberals *again* bothers me.

Yeah I know what you mean man, it's cool down here as well(near London), around 12C. You should remember the 'global cooling' phase that went on during the 70's tho. heh. I think my father still has one of the t-shirts some place. A real collectors item.

#39 PostalWorker: The difference is, it takes the majority so long to get angry at something that it's already happened. Complaceny is a horrible problem here.

G'night Tiburon.

G'night everyone, I'm off as well.

In my last post, the everything except the last line was quoted from the article that is linked to in the update to this thread. I didn't realize that html element symbols are ignored by this parser.

#41 Godzilla :

If he did...I don't know if I'll simply turn in my membership or stick around and vote in someone with more common sense.

Hmm... that's some sneaky writing. The quotes weren't from the Conservative Party, though they occur immediately after a line stating that the Conservative Party concurred with the Prime Minister. Very sneaky, or I'm too drunk.

Mashiki

He didn't. But read the article, and you're almost lead into attributing the quotes to the Conservative Party, if you read it fast and don't pay attention, as I wasn't. Those quotes there were intentionally sneaky, I think, to imply the Conservative Party was in agreement with the quotes from CAIR.

Insidious.

#24 mashiki -
We have far too many panderers to "poor, pitiful" illegal aliens. The Rocky Mountain News & Denver Post just did (8/12/04) paeans to poverty-stricken pregnant women who will lose taxpayer-funded pre-natal care under state Medicaid. Nearly half the users are illegal aliens, many of whom arrive already pregnant. As if there were no hospitals or medical care available in their own countries (at a fraction of the cost). But why should Coloradans spend over $9 million a year on lawbreakers? Why should taxpayers be penalized for irresponsible lawbreakers who get themselves P-G knowing full well they are unwilling and unable to meet a prospective child's needs? We still treat pregnancy as some sacred "medical emergency" instead of a choice, and a choice which provides an additional nine months to prepare for the consequences!

Patronizing and paternalistic LLLs make me as crazy as the loonies who cave to Islamofascists.

#39, PostalWorker

Canucks aren't all pussies. Many of them are a lot like us.

Meow! LOL.

Oh, and btw, Martin is our version of Kerry...

/flip effen flop

PostalWorker,

I just read your other posts on this thread, and, well, if it's not too forward of me - are you going through menopause? lololol

#46 Godzilla: Yes I see that. A lot of word play that makes it confusing. Do they major in confudling or LLLese? I have to wonder sometimes...gah. Enough to drive someone to drink. lol

#47 ibu guru : You'll get no arugment from me on that, Canada has no shortage of them either. If you want, take a look at the Toronto(Ontario) ridings and their 'political' views if you want to blow a gasket.

Cheers all, I really am off to bed now. G'night.

#30 PostalWorker -
It's been awhile since I lived in Singa-bore (as we expats referred to it). But the good thing about it was they were strict on littering & kept things clean. Hence, keep the gum off the bus seats.

Sometimes I miss it terribly, and other times, I'm glad I moved to Hongkers (which I miss worse!).

But my point about obeying another country's laws while there holds. It is their country, and their right to make their laws, even some which seem stupid to visitors or new residents. It is a matter of respect. And the US, UK, Australia, NZ & Canada allow illegal aliens, bogus "refugees" and "asylum seekers," and disrespectful, greedy and dangerous people to sucker-punch us.

This boggles my mind so much I have to repeat it. Get a load of this -

/snip

Also the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, Stephen Harper, welcomed the Prime Minister’s statement.

"We welcome the statement by the Prime Minister’s office clarifying this important issue that has affected many recent immigrants to Canada ," stated CAIR-CAN spokesperson Abdurahman Salman.

"We hope that the CIC officials in question, who clearly acted outside of Canada ’s guidelines regarding religious accommodation, will now conduct themselves in accordance with the stated principles articulated by the Prime Minister," he added.

/end snip

Since when the hell does Stephen Harper = Abdurahman Salman? Certainly the CAIR-CAN spokesperson agrees; however that is not one and the same thing.

This is jounalism with a viciously naked agenda.

OT:
I don't know if this has already been mentioned but Iranian athlete quits games; refuses to face Israeli

Delta,

No, just fed up with shit like the other sane posters here like you.

I got a few years before the hot flashes turn me into the Scots Irish Cherokee version of bigel.

I'm not so far off from that BTW.

Maybe you are right and I am in denial, but dammit it just feels right for me.

/not quite ready for viagra or cialis

#52 me

Oh, hell. Mystery solved. It's ISLAM ONLINE after all. Now I'm off to kick the shit out of King Kong.

when I entered the middle east they made me take off my sunglasses to make sure I was the one in the passport picture. Geesh if you can't enter within the rules, don't enter!!!

If you Islamowackos don't like it, get the fuck out of our country. Don't let the door hit your sandy asses, either.

Many, many more people than died on 9-11 will have to perish, and in even more horrific ways than being flown into or crushed inside of the collapsing World Trade Centers before we are cured of our political correctness.

When that day comes, I would not want to be any kind of muslim, extremist or otherwise.

#54, PostalWorker

Maybe you are right and I am in denial, but dammit it just feels right for me.

I said you were in denial?

/channeling Johnny Cochrane.

I weep for my country. (I'm Canadian.)

I sometimes feel like I'm living in a fantasy, as I'm continually stunned by the naivete' of my countrymen.

I voted Conservative in our last election, which was in June, if you weren't' aware... my country has been hijacked by dangerous, progressive transnationalists, and we are well on our way to being a third-world country because of it.

I'm 35, and have always found politics to be a disgraceful profession. I now feel the compulsion to run for public office growing daily.

So, so, many Canadians see the Islamic threat for what it is, and I hope that this news, compounded with the encroachment of Sharia Law in Ontario, causes more of my fellow Canadians to WAKE THE FUCK UP!

Sorry, but it had to be said.

Go America. Fight the good fight and know that the resistance is alive and well in foreign lands...

Peace

#60, Braintrust

I am also (canadian). I've been outed!

Where abouts do you live?

This is the kinda shit we're up against in La La Land.

Good Night Everyone ;-)

#61 Delta Burka:

"Where abouts do you live?"

I live in Victoria, British Columbia, at the moment.

I was raised in South-Western Ontario, moved to Vancouver when I was 25 in 1994, and then onto Vic for the last 3 years. In my riding, which is comprised mostly of seniors, the Conservative candidate did win. But it's awfully lonely in this part of Canada, and I've lost more than a few friends since 911.

I was a typical, young urban liberal on Sept. 10th. The world changed the next day, and so did I.

I've read my Chomsky, but nothing, NOTHING the United States has ever done, warranted that kind of insane reprisal. The U.S. has given so much more to the world than it has taken.

If I was Prime Minister, I would cease all immigration immediately. Quadruple our military budget. Deport, and then deport some more.

Do you know what vital role Canada is supposed to serve on the world stage? Do you know what purpose it is we serve?

We are the cultural link between Europe and the United States. We bring them together.

Our society is much more European than that of the U.S., but also we are much more American than the Europeans.

I think the tension between the two that exists today is exacerbated in no small part by our absence on the world stage. We aren't strong militarily, but we link together those who are.

Can you imagine how much different the last 3 years would have been, if we had loudly and plainly voiced our full support for our great neighbor to the south?

It would have changed things, believe me...

Peace

zulubaby, #5,

I prefer "proofreading" without a hyphen. How do you like Big Satan and Little Satan Buttressing Two "Poor" Iranians?

Braintrust, as an Albertan, I agree 100 percent with what you are saying and I have even thought of at least getting into provincial politics so as too make Alberta at least tougher and safer against Ottawa...

But I believe what we really need is someone that is couragous enough to take on the Multiculti agenda...and that person had better be brave because all hell will break loose from the brainwashed Canadians especially down east...you will be intimitaded and hated and called a bigot among the small things...

It is imperative that we find a leader with strong intellectual acumen and one that can show too the masses what we have been sold the last 35 years is a lie and it is ruining our country...

We need a leader with all of these attributes and in addition...that leader must be very very charismatic...an absolute in this age...God Bless Mr. Harper of the Conservatives but he doesn't have the flair that we need...

I gauranttee you if a Canadian were too start standing up to this shit that Trudeau spawned over 3 decades ago, slowly but surely many if not most of the masses here will climb on board...the problem is that the whites have been so bombarded with guilt over the Natives and other such ancient history, that we have been neutered and quiet for far too long...that is why we have gutless white politicians that are appeasers that happily welcome in a Terrorist family such as the Khadrs instead of lining them up against the Wall and being Shot as they should...

Canada, in short, needs a revolution...our public schools and higher academia are just like in America...they have become bastions of the hard left and they are indoctrinating our children...

The work we have ahead of us is immense...

If only we could get one Province to seperate like Alberta...anything to break the illness that is socialism and its attendant bastard children!!

Thanks

Islam Online:

There are approximately 600,000 Canadian Muslims and 1.2 billion worldwide.

I hope everyone realizes that this is tossed in every article as a threat.

Speaking of proofreading... America and Israel buttress against two Iranian athletes at Parade of Nations

Only slightly OT

Uganda: U.S. to Construct Muslim Primary Schools

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Via Dhimmi watch

When it comes to the defender and propagator of the ideology of Islam, in the West atleast, the USA has no equal.

This behaviour of the USA in the past 30 years, could be forgiven, that US policy was driven by oil. But now, I really am completely at a loss, why after 9/11, the USA continues this behaviour of a dhimmi. After 9/11 one would have thought that the USA would have learnt a lesson. Apparantly it did, but not the one I expected.

6 Albertadude

That person will have to be charismatic plus other some other qualities as well.

1. May have to be from an ethnic minority. Not a muslim though.

2. Preferably female

3. Better still - a native Canadian

So your ideal candidate would be female, native Canadian, charismatic and above all telegenic. If she is a single parent, and an enviro freak lesbian, that would be a bonus.

Ironic eh?

Those Muslim women should be made to pose naked holding piglets and puppies. Screw their phony arrogant indignation!

This is outrageous. I have had to strip off my coat, sweater, and even shirt at checkpoints (Apparently, some of those metal detectors are set off by the underwire in a woman's support bra, in case you guys don't know), and yet some woman from God knows where can keep her entire body covered, including her face, and doesn't even need to show her face on her ID card to protect her delicate sensibilities? What a load of horseshit!

This is discrimination, boy howdy! It gives Muslim women more rights to privacy than any other woman on the planet. I demand equal consideration! Only really hunky men at checkpoints will get to see me. They must be single, have less than 19% bodyfat, of good character, and willing to marry. Then they get to see anything they want.

/sarcasm off/

I can't understand how security is even supposed to know who they are looking at or even if this person is a woman, and what the heck happens if she sets off the metal detector under that hijab?

Maybe all non-Muslims should sue for the special priviliges that Muslim women are getting. It IS discrimination, discrimination against everyone who isn't Muslim!

Whew! I am feeling so dhimmi just now!

Good luck, Canda! You need it!

And good luck USA. We have a big, fat unprotected border while Canada lets in anyone from anywhere as long as they are wearing a tent on their heads.

OT - OT - The organization of United Tyrants and Dictators, the U.N., strikes again,

More than 100 people leapt out of their seats as soon as UN special envoy to Iraq, Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, finished his opening speech, shouting, “as long as there are air strikes and shelling we can’t have a conference”.

From the U.N. press release:

12 July 2004 – United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan today named Pakistan's current Ambassador to the United States, Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, as his Special Representative for Iraq.

Great move Kofi you shi'itehead!

Group walks out of Iraq conference as fighting resumes in Najaf

OT

Just saw a great interview on C-SPAN with a Yale professor named Mary Habek. First of all...she's hot...she could read a book in my bed anytime.

With that out of the way, she did a very good job of articulating the anti-idiotarian position and responded quite adroitly to several callers (who, remarakably and admirably, were not screaming lunatics) who presented the heart of the anti-American arguments.

I am sure C-SPAN has an online archive of this interview somewhere. It is worth watching in order get a reprieve from all the fools with too much airtime.

Did y'all vote in the poll at the link Charles posted?

Should Muslim women be required to remove their headscarves as they pass through airport security?
82.47 % Yes
17.53 % No

The tanks are rolling again in Najaf

#71 armytramp

Take it as a compliment, from TSA freaks. I, and everyone else who travels even a little, have / has noticed that attractive women are the most-searched grope, I mean group. By hiring thousands of new bureaucrats we have achieved virtually nothing in the way of additional security, IMO.

Armed pilots -- assuming they have enough bullets for large 'Syrian bands' -- are a good step. That makes me feel a bit safer. So long as the pilots don't get sucked into heroic rescues in the passenger areas by depraved Islamists, planes won't be used as human-guided missiles any more. There may be some real horror stories in our flying futures however.

If they can't profile Muslims and Arabs, there is no point in having airport security except metal detectors.

#73 Dar ul Harbarian

Interesting. There was a story about Mary Habeck that Yale had denied her tenure.

The link for that CSPAN interview is here.

So Osama could don an oversized potato sack, a checkered dishcloth and he can get into Canada. Does Paul Martin not know that there are female suiciders willing to die for that allah fucker.

OT: the mask comes off in Sudan -- they will fight "infidels" -- Human rights, who cares? They have the United Nazis and the EU cowards on their side.

#77

Sorry not an iterview a speech with James Phillips

Religion of beheading, bombing, kidnapping, lying, misogyny, and bad fashion sense, strikes again in India (when do they not strike India?)

India accuses Pakistan of training and arming the Islamic militants, a charge Pakistan denies. More than 65,000 people have been killed in the conflict since 1989.

But George Bush invented Islamic terrorism, when he's not a Zionist pawn.

/deranged Michael Moore LLL

For your LLL friends suffering from Michael Moore induced BDS -- thanks again to whoever posted this here first

I wonder how many of the "women" have beards?

Our friends, the Canadiens?

#78, Katt

LOL!

As Daniel Pipes, notes--terrorists have special rights in Canada,so this Paul Martin garbage about the rag shouldn't be a surprise.
[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

The appropriate American response to the PM's idiocy is for His Excellency, Paul Cellucci, to call Martin into an immediate meeting. And tell him: "Either every visitor to Canada is identified using protocols approved by and acceptable to Homeland Security, or the Canadian/US border is sealed. We don't care if there is $2B of mutual trade crossing the border daily; America is wealthy and innovative, and we will find ways of replacing Canadian goods and services. In the interim, American security is paramount. You have a choice and 24 hours to make it. And if you doubt that we are capable of this, get out of your Challenger jet, get out of your estate in the Eastern Townships, get out of Davos- and actually go chat to a Canadian beef farmer or exporter of softwood lumber."

The Grits will fold in one minute, and offer a craven, weasly press release confirming that, for security reasons, full facial (and, soon, biometric) ID will be required on landing in Canada. This will cause the Toronto Red Star and CAIR-Can to seethe. Yawn.

A rhetorical rant:

Good Lord Almighty. Why is it when someone from the West visits one of those Islamic hellholes, we have to follow their rules, like no bibles or alcohol, women being covered, etc.? But when they 'grace' us with their presence in the West, they demand that we allow them to ignore our rules as justified by the 'religiosity' of their beliefs.

And why is it, whenever you see pictures of Khomeini, al-Sadr, Hamza, or even the missile buying Aref, or any other leader of this 'peaceful' religion, all appear as hardened men, devoid of joy. They all look as if living on earth is hell, instead of trying to make the earth a little bit more like heaven. Islam has so much death and violence ingrained within its pages and followers that one cannot but wonder how any country in the West can die so quietly. No wracking coughs, or high fevers. No, the PC virus must contain some sort of an opiate that allows us to function, to willingly aid in our own destruction.

Can we not see the mask which hides true Islam, or even comprehend that a mask is there?

No matter the name of the ideological enemy, why is "Never Again" so easy to forget?

What's the problem? It's not as if there's ever been female suicide bombers...oh no wait a second...

Still it's not as if a terrorist would dress up as a woman in an attempt to bypass security.

More than Molson.

Q: What do you get when you cross a recent immigrant to Europe, with a recent immigrant to America?

A: Someone who prostrates himself on hearing Mariachi music, 5 times a day.

{groan}

Insanity and multi culti kow towing at it's worst from the Dhimmi nation of Canada.

to #79 Beagle: see this, our Sudan Islamic friends pursuing inner jihad struggles against inner sin and temptation:

The unit's logo is a galloping black stallion surrounded with the words: "To Fight and Conquer. Death in the name of Allah".

OT -- More BBC Antisemitism

I don't think this article about the Israeli human chain a few weeks ago was seen here. Even though the BBC uses mainstream Israeli sources to comdemn the human chain, that fact that they comdemn it more evidence of the BBC's highly questionable attitude towards the Jews, it's attitude toward Israel, and its attitude in general.
Israeli chain fails to impress

Spiritualized -

I'm trying to come up with a brilliant reply that involves Jim McGreevey and Hanan Ashrawi, but I haven't had my coffee yet.

Zulubaby -

Re proofreading - while I love the NY Post for the most part, their proofreading (or lack thereof) is simply atrocious.

I am a Canadian living in south western Ontario, I have yet to meet anyone who supports the government's decision to allow Muslim women wear their hijab while being photographed. Decision such as this are the main reason why more and more Canadians are turning to the Right, it's only a matter of time before Canada is governed by a Conservative government, we just have to be patient.

al-adwa 'free non-existant country' song is down to 1.196 in the poll.

Good job lgfers. :-D

Good Grief - Public pension fund investments in terrorist-sponsoring nations.

$200 BILLION WORTH OF STOCK HELD IN COMPANIES DOING BUSINESS IN ROGUE STATES

(Can we get the Eurabia states of Frawnce & Germany included in this definition?)

District of Control you have a problem, get the fuking lead out and fix it.

OT: Magal to participate in tender for European separation fence

After European representatives launched a campaign against Israel's separation fence, and voted against Israel at the UN general assembly, the EU is planning a separation fence of its own. The EU plans to build a fence to separate its new members - Poland and Hungary - from its new neighbors - Russia, Belarus and Ukraine - to prevent the free movement of migrants seeking to enter the EU.

Israeli companies that specialize in the construction of warning fences and security systems will participate in tenders to build hundreds of kilometers of fences along the EU's new eastern border.

Will Russia, Belarus and Ukraine let the EU build an Apartheid Wall on their borders?

I'm not so certain we in the United States are so pure about requiring hijab wearing women to show their faces for identification.

Some states allow veiling for women to get drivers' licenses, and they are as close to national IDs as we have (alas).

It's insanity of course. A partial solution could be to require retna scans as substitutes, but that loses the general recognition of the full mug shot that photos capture.

We must get over this PC crap and take ID photos and conduct ethnic profiling. We may have to put up customs inspection at Canadian border entry points..

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.
People say, how can I help on this war on terror? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you
I've got an additional responsibility to hug and that's me - and I know what it's like
There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again
There's no cave deep enough for America, or dark enough to hide
It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber
There's no doubt in my mind that we should allow the world's worst leaders to hold America hostage
I'm the master of low expectations
These people don't have tanks. They don't have ships. They hide in caves. They send suiciders out
First, let me make it very clear - poor people aren't necessarily killers

OT;(Bobby Sands lasted 65 days.)

Palestinians in Israeli Jails Hunger Strike

OT OT OT -

NY Times Building Hit by Giant Flying Pig

{air raid siren sounds}

NY Times Predicts Bush Gets 57.5% of the Vote!!!

Reporter Can't Handle The Truth, Even If It Comes from a Kerry Supporter

August 15, 2004
As a professor of economics at Yale, you are known for creating an econometric equation that has predicted presidential elections with relative accuracy.

My latest prediction shows that Bush will receive 57.5 percent of the two-party votes.

The polls are suggesting a much closer race.

Polls are notoriously flaky this far ahead of the election, and there is a limit to how much you want to trust polls.

In your book ''Predicting Presidential Elections and Other Things,'' you claim that economic growth and inflation are the only variables that matter in a presidential race. Are you saying that the war in Iraq will have no influence on the election?

Historically, issues like war haven't swamped the economics. If the equation is correctly specified, then the chances that Bush loses are very small.

But the country hasn't been this polarized since the 60's, and voters seem genuinely engaged by social issues like gay marriage and the overall question of a more just society.

We throw all those into what we call the error term. In the past, all that stuff that you think should count averages about 2.5 percent, and that is pretty small.

It saddens me that you teach this to students at Yale, who could be thinking about society in complex and meaningful ways...are you a Republican?

I tell you I am a Kerry supporter, how do you know that I am not lying or behaving strategically to try to put more weight on the predictions and help the Republicans?...I am a Kerry supporter.

I believe you entirely, although I'm a little surprised, because your predictions implicitly lend support to Bush.

I am not attempting to be an advocate for one party or another. I am attempting to be a social scientist trying to explain voting behavior.

But in the process you are shaping opinion. Predictions can be self-confirming, because wishy-washy voters might go with the candidate who is perceived to be more successful.

It could work the other way. If Kerry supporters see that I have made this big prediction for Bush, more of them could turn out just to prove an economist wrong.

Hat tip: Tom Maguire (JustOneMinute)

Ever hear that saying that some people are "born Americans" even though they were born in another country? That's the way I feel.

Canada has been changed so drastically in the past 35 years that it might as well have been conquered by an invading force. The Left owns Canada.

I really have to get the paperwork started so I can immigrate to the US before you guys simply close the border with Canada.

Also don't forget that Alberta has more oil than Saudi Arabia--in the form of tar sands. Once it becomes technically/economically viable to extract it you will have a far-Left/Dhimmi nation of extreme wealth to contend with.

A rare case of Quebec making more sense thant the federal gov't.

Braintrust, 60, 63
Altadude

Amen to both your views, although I think I'll start signing mine with Semper Fi! I do not think that "Peace" - as you readily suggest in your remarks about this Orwellian nightmare - is where it's at. As Altadude suggests - we're possibly going to need another Louis Real (not a good example) - but I just don't know a good Canadian example. A man with guts and pizzazz - a Churchill - Hell, a Maggie Thatcher - a Ronald Reagan!

Here in the Maritimes (Nova Scotia) the closest thing to conservative is a Church Service or a gun club - and there ain't too many of those - and they whisper when mentioning the Government

When we can - we're off for Alta SAP! It's either that or the Pan Handle of Alaska - but that would be copping out wouldn't it!
Semper Fi!

#99 The_Moose_Overlord

You should get that mad cow, BDS, "LLLogic" checked out. Or, you forgot a big "/sarcasm" tag.

Rambling on incoherently is best left to later in the thread where it is less likely to be noticed.

I've never seen anyone start a concluding paragraph with "First" either. Interesting approach to organization, have you.

I'm new here to this board, and I already feel sorry for those Canadians who recognize the threat Islamism poses to their country (and the rest of the world as well!). The U.S. is also infected with the PC virus, but at least the Patriot Act hasn't been gutted yet. But if Kerry is elected...well, I'd better get to my attorney friend to draw up a will, because as Rorschach suggested, I'll probably need it...

All Right, Earl!!!

Bang on!

Semper Fi!

Check out the Canadian Multiculturalism Act:

[Link: laws.justice.gc.ca...]

An excerpt:

AND WHEREAS Canada is a party to the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, which Convention recognizes that all human beings are equal before the law and are entitled to equal protection of the law against any discrimination and against any incitement to discrimination, and to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which Covenant provides that persons belonging to ethnic, religious or linguistic minorities shall not be denied the right to enjoy their own culture, to profess and practise their own religion or to use their own language;

We are doomed! Sharia here we come!

#105 Beagle

Oh, I didn't ascribe those, they're from your president.
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

How many have been killed under sharia since 2000? Two. How many executed in Texas? I'm done with your bullshit rhetoric. And to all you canadians who succede so willingly to these pussy right wing nut-cakes-- bloody shame on you.
Once again, the right displays its rauckus stupidity and ignorance of all things canadian. You folks do not understand what you shoot at, again and again and again.

#109 The_Moose_Overlord

How many have been killed under sharia since 2000? Two. How many executed in Texas?

Two killed under sharia? Where? Nice numbers, no links or facts to back them up.

And BTW " raukus" isn't a word.

# 109 The_Moose_Overlord:

How many have been killed under sharia since 2000? Two.

Come again?

CJ (the boy) wishes you all to know that he recently visited Canada for the first time at the recent conclusion of our wilderness expedition.

Specifically, we decided to cross into Sault Ste Marie on our way home. Ostensibly to have lunch. Mostly because the boy had never been on Canadian soil before. His impressions: Canada has more apartment buildings but fewer houses, the Government-run tourist station was immaculate and well-stocked but the business district looked shabby and there were a lot more vacant stores in SSM Ontario than in SSM Michigan. The Canadian border guy looked like a slacker, wouldn't recommend a place to eat, and even though the American border guard gave us (and our camping gear) a much more thorough inspection, she was a lot friendlier and cheerier about it.

After about an hour of looking for a place to lunch, he finally concluded "America rocks, Canada sucks, let's go home."

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

Sucks to be right all the time you hose bag ignorant tits.

Sucks to be right all the time you hose bag ignorant tits.

LOL. Me thinks thou dost have a big head, poor insulting skills and not a clue.

# 113 Moose:

WTF are you on about? You think shari'a is only in Nigeria? (And using PBS as a source does not help your argument.) Shari'a is the land of the land in any Islamic country, except for Turkey. Shari'a death sentences carried out number a helluva lot more than two. With less legal safeguards by western standards, I might add.

#99, Moose Over

People say, how can I help on this war on terror? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you

.

Does hugging a chipmunk count?

Moose and Squirrel,

What the hell are you talking about? Try to make one sentence link into the other. Paragraphs should have transitions.

You think I care if Bush uses malapropisms? News flash: that's not news. You only hear about his because the media focuses on him.

C'mon Moose, this is your big debut. Try to make some sense. You linked to a PBS story about sharia, to what end?

Geepers

Well gosh darnit, he had links to PBS and al-Guardian.

The Moos from the Underworld -

The US executes murderers and terrorists.

Shari'ah countries execute women who had the misfortune to be raped.

C'mon Moose, this is your big debut.

Hey, how do you know that de but of Mouse Overload is big? And what are you, sizeist?

J.D.,

I always have more respect for posters who are smugly condescending while being dead wrong.

How long till the goal posts get moved?

Mooslim O is just a good mooslim ass kisser--he can't see the atrocities because his head is too deep in camel poop.

Geepers

Well, he's had almost 30 minutes now.
Not too swift, if you ask me.

Let me state this clearly: Americans who advocate and Canadians who agree with some sort of intervention in Canada are scum-sucking bastards.

Ontario's decision to allow some divorce and family matters to be regulated by Sharia is not a concern, it is however a forethright attempt to bridge the difficult gap that exists between the modern law and the ancient social customs. This is our sphere, our law. It is about divorce and minor family matters. Not executions. Your so easily distracted. Here is the point:

BRING ISLAM INTO MODERNITY

Deal with this issue instead, eh?

That is the challenge, you feckless pack of rats. "Rauckus," indeed!

Okay for that, you theiving pile of albino warts. You better settle your affairs because your deal is about to go down. You scurvy mess of codswallop.

What else can I say? Except to warn you, once again, that the hammer of justice looms, and your filthy white suit will become a flaming shroud!

Let me state this clearly: Americans who advocate and Canadians who agree with some sort of intervention in Canada are scum-sucking bastards.

Ontario's decision to allow some divorce and family matters to be regulated by Sharia is not a concern, it is however a forethright attempt to bridge the difficult gap that exists between the modern law and the ancient social customs. This is our sphere, our law. It is about divorce and minor family matters. Not executions. Your so easily distracted. Here is the point:

BRING ISLAM INTO MODERNITY

Deal with this issue instead, eh?

That is the challenge, you feckless pack of rats. "Rauckus," indeed!

Okay for that, you theiving pile of albino warts. You better settle your affairs because your deal is about to go down. You scurvy mess of codswallop.

What else can I say? Except to warn you, once again, that the hammer of justice looms, and your filthy white suit will become a flaming shroud!

Moose and Squirrel,

Ontario's decision to allow some divorce and family matters to be regulated by Sharia is not a concern, it is however a forethright attempt to bridge the difficult gap that exists between the modern law and the ancient social customs. This is our sphere, our law. It is about divorce and minor family matters. Not executions. Your so easily distracted. Here is the point:

BRING ISLAM INTO MODERNITY

Your existing legal system in Canada was modern before sharia infected it. But you're too foolish to realize what is happening.

Sharia is the worst legal system in the world. It's like adding cyanide to the water to help bring your drinking water into modernity. If you knew anything about family law in sharia this would not be earth-shaking.

Let me state this clearly: Americans who advocate and Canadians who agree with some sort of intervention in Canada are scum-sucking bastards.

Thanks. I'm sorry about your sarcasm-humor deprivation. There is no treatment. Do you get Comedy Central in Al-Canadastan?

scurvy mess of codswallop

feckless pack of rats

theiving pile of albino warts

the hammer of justice looms, and your filthy white suit will become a flaming shroud!

hose bag ignorant tits

master of low expectations

This guy is a rotating-title writer genius.

I never cease to be amazed at the *ahem* wisdom of the government of Canaduh. Pfft! As phucking if!

Now, a mooslim does not need to go thru Canadian courts--he can just chant I divorce you 3 times. Of course, under sharia, he automatically gets the kids and then looks for another female to breed. So simple(minded).

You people truly are clueless. If you had RTFA (read the fine article) you would have realized that a hijab is NOT a full facial covering; it only covers the hair and ears. And according to Canadian regulations, "Ears and hair are not considered facial features." (And why would they be, you can't see ears half the time, and using hair as an identification feature is rather pointless).

If you're going to start slagging Canada at least you should know what the hell you're talking about. Then again, this is LGF... does ANYBODY here know what they're talking about? (with the exception of your's truly of course.)

#131 Canuckistan

That's not the issue. The issue is moslem incrementalism and accommodation.

Martin wants the practice stopped, saying an Islamic woman’s right to to wear the hijab must be respected.

Bullshit. Effin' dhimmi ...

Thom,

This guy is a rotating-title writer genius.

Which should be added to the rotating-title list.

Canuckistan

And according to Canadian regulations, "Ears and hair are not considered facial features."

Are you sure? I only ask because for your US green card and passport photos, your right ear has to be fully visible. Also, eye and hair colour are listed on those documents.

Canuckistan--do you mean like this?
[Link: www.emory.edu...]

This is what those terrorist Khadr bitches wear when we see them.

#133 Geepers

Heeeyyy ... wait a minute ...

{LOL}

Please correct me if I am wrong...

The hijab is NOT a muslim garb. The hijab was adopted in southern Lebanon as a way to differentiate muslim lebanese women from christian lebanese women in order to keep them from mistakenly being raped as part of a terror campaign.
The hijab was pirated from the traditional costume of christian nuns as way to bestow some degree of sanctity upon muslim women. Kind of like a sign that says I am a sacred cow, do not touch!

The point being that Paul Martin is an uninformed ass and a spineless coward to boot. What a sad specimen for Prime Minister.

134 zulubaby

From the horse's mouth...

"A photo in which the applicant is wearing a hat or head covering or anything that interferes with the photo's value in providing a means of identifying the issuee for the benefit of border control is not acceptable for a Canadian passport or travel document. While allowances may be made for practitioners of religious faiths that prohibit the removal of the head covering, photos in which the full facial features of the subject are not visible are not acceptable."

[Link: www.ppt.gc.ca...]

Fuggedupistan,

Then again, this is LGF... does ANYBODY here know what they're talking about? (with the exception of your's truly of course.)

Puffing your intellect should be followed by puffing your own knob. I'm sure you're working on the necessary flexiblity. Enjoy Al-Canadastan. I hope you are denied entry when you decide, too late, to run to the United States.

If you really think head-covering is a good precedent for identification purposes, I have a Hefty bag I'd like to sell you.

Canuckistan, thanks for the link. The hijab covers most of the face though. Interesting (to me anyway) ... I just looked up the specs for US citizenship and they've changed the photo requirements. (PDF)

Sarcasm. Maybe Cicero had it right when he sarcastically ended every senatorial speech with "destroy Carthage".

Muslims here, supported by a 1991 Ontario provincial law, have been using sharia to mediate legal disputes, such as divorce and child custody. It's legally used by religious scholars and imams in Ontario to mediate a narrow range of disputes - from clashes over property and inheritances, to matters in marriage and divorce.

It is the proposal creating a formalized tribunal for dispute resolution arising from the 1991 Arbitration Act that has dissatisfied proponents and critics alike.

Just one case of a woman claiming discrimination will overturn this. It is not a big deal. The 1991 law will be dramatically overhauled, probably based on a Quebec model:

"In Quebec the law clearly states that it is impossible to have arbitration in matters of family law because it causes public unrest,'' explains Pascale Fournier, a legal scholar at McGill University in Montreal, who has recently studied the application of sharia around the world. "In Canada we're hearing [the outcry over sharia is] based on Islamaphobia. But that's clearly not the case because other people are clearly dissatisfied," Fournier says.

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

Sarcasm. Maybe Cicero had it right when he sarcastically ended every senatorial speech with "destroy Carthage".

Muslims here, supported by a 1991 Ontario provincial law, have been using sharia to mediate legal disputes, such as divorce and child custody. It's legally used by religious scholars and imams in Ontario to mediate a narrow range of disputes - from clashes over property and inheritances, to matters in marriage and divorce.

It is the proposal creating a formalized tribunal for dispute resolution arising from the 1991 Arbitration Act that has dissatisfied proponents and critics alike.

Just one case of a woman claiming discrimination will overturn this. It is not a big deal. The 1991 law will be dramatically overhauled, probably based on a Quebec model:

"In Quebec the law clearly states that it is impossible to have arbitration in matters of family law because it causes public unrest,'' explains Pascale Fournier, a legal scholar at McGill University in Montreal, who has recently studied the application of sharia around the world. "In Canada we're hearing [the outcry over sharia is] based on Islamaphobia. But that's clearly not the case because other people are clearly dissatisfied," Fournier says.

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

Here is the google link related to my post # 137.

The origins of the hijab, aka: "muslim head scarf".

NOT!

www.google.com/search?q=hijab+lebanon+rape

#140 zulubaby
This was on the TV news several weeks ago. The women who were complaining were wearing a moderate hijabs like this:
[Link: www.halalmagazine.com...]
The passport guy made them remove it which was out of line for him since the regulations say that ears and hair don't have to be visible.

I don't know what the passport regulations say about ninja-style hijabs.

Maybe Cicero had it right when he sarcastically ended every senatorial speech with "destroy Carthage".

You're a fucking Imbecile.

That's with a capital I.

Cicero wasn't being scraggiest.

He railed on, in the Senate, on the record, as one of the most impressive rhetorical orators and had a habit of ending any speech with: "And I also believe Carthage should be destroyed." He was using his name, his reputation. and the influence of the righteousness of his current argument to give credence to the "simplistic" notion that "Carthago delenda est!"

Oh, and one more thing:

It is CATO who is immortalized for that proclamation, not Cicero, which officially gets you promoted to:

fucking Idiot.

That's with a capital I.

#145 Geepers

LOL.

Ass (The_Moose_Overlord) meet fact ...

To all non-Canadian LGF posters:

Moose, canuckistan et al., the flotsam who have washed ashore on this thread, represent the ultimate product of the Canadian socialized-education system compounded by the smug, glib anti-Americanism that comes from listening to/watching the Ceeb. Armed with their BAs from Trent in Wimmins' Studies, these loathsome creatures adopt an air of moral superiority not through accomplishment, but rather from merely riding their bicycles to their favourite tea houses- in Winnipeg in February. Fortunately, these no-hopers' best chance for political relevance (the NDP) was decimated in June's federal election. So expect much seething and whining. They'll soon tire of being ridiculed here, and go back to masturbating while watching old Air Farce re-runs. I can't even be bothered apologizing for their pathetic existence.

Earl
My cv?: Born and raised in Alberta. Gun owner and hunter, V8-powered truck driver, Scotch drinker, capitalist.

Earl, so add that to your profile!

Scotch drinker

Whiskey!

#147, Earl

They'll soon tire of being ridiculed here, and go back to masturbating while watching old Air Farce re-runs. I can't even be bothered apologizing for their pathetic existence.

LOL! Another nail has been hit. Tell it like it is already!
May they all OD on their Stella Artois.

At the risk of sounding like an arrogant beer commercial, I am canadian ;-)

They may start out saying moderate scarves--give them an inch and you'll get this shit:
[Link: myfloridalegal.com...]

Maybe muslims in Canada and the US could be as vocal about demanding that non-muslims in Saudi Arabia, Iran,
Pakistan, not be forced to wear those rags. If Muslims here consider a passport ID law against the hijab offensive, then the Saudi, Pakistani, Iranian, etc. laws enforcing compulsory wearing of the hijab should also be condemned because they take away a woman's right to choose not to wear those craphats.

I recently travelled to D.C. through Pearson International (Toronto, my American friends) and had quite the experience boarding. I was not surprised when my brother and I (both middle aged whites, sans beards, rag tops, ceremonial knives, box cutters, etc) were searched, including all of our bags. I was surprised when we were stopped again b4 arriving at the departure gate and went humbly through the procedure again. However, nothing prepared me for being asked by an intimidating guy in battle fatigues holding an automatic machine gun to sit down and take off my shoes as I arrived at the departure gate. WTF, were they on to me?
Meekly, I found the courage to ask my tormentor if something was up, as this was obviously not normal. Surprise, I was informed this was normal!
My point: hearing what our poor deprived peace loving Islamic friends went through in Dorval brought tears to my eyes. Imagine, targeting an innocent group like this, for having the temerity to want to keep their hajabs on.
Shit, what would have happened if I had said my shoes weren't coming off? With a loaded machine gun 2 feet from me I didn't want to know.I believe a post to PM Martin, stating my indignation, humiliation and degradation over being told to remove my shoes is in order.
And btw my good American friends, resist the urge to write us all off. Canukistan is going through an incredible "politically correct" period. This is how we define ourselves vis a vis Americans. This too shall pass in the fullness of time. I am afraid it will only be when the "peace loving" Jihadists run a 100,000 gallon fuel tanker into the Peace Tower in Ottawa (our Captial!) that we finally wake up to what's happening. Until then, we will smugly go about our ways.

#151, Grim Reaper

I enjoyed your post. A sad commentary but a true one.

There are quite a few Canadians on LGF. It's our Escape From Fantasy Island ;-)

Pearson is in Toronto?

Ottawa is the capitol?!

Who knew?

#153, Thom

LOL! You've been in the lab too long.

Just to make it clear what the headware looks like: a HIJAB covers your hair and ears, but the entire face is visible, and a NIQAB covers everything except the eyes.

Picture here:
[Link: shop.store.yahoo.com...]

Canuckistan--you are full of shit. SOME hijabs cover the mouth.
[Link: groups.msn.com...]
The above is a hijab.
This is the slit eye mask: a Niqabi
[Link: groups.msn.com...]

145 Geepers

Nothing snide or nasty about that. Most people with your kind of leverage seem to hunker down & start snarling when their natural preconceptions go down the tube...Congratulations on making my point that Cicero in fact delivered those words (immortalized by Cato). If you can stay there for one second, I'll wrap this up.

Carthage would not have been invaded had it not been for the oration of Cicero and his constant use of Cato's phrase. Herein lies the rub. Say something often enough... watching the right even remotely toast the "sarcastic" invade canada premise. Its dubious irresponsible language that gives serious affront. And we haven't even gotten started on the historic paralells between that ancient state and ours...the dirty little canadians.

To this end, while waiting to throw the I-BOMB at me, you have failed to address any of the points offered, namely, what do you propose as a satisfactory remedy to bringing Islam into the 21st century?

Thanx, you scurvy pigfuckers. All I wanted today was another goddamned American telling me what is wrong in my own backyard. It confirmed my life-long belief that "there is no paranoia." Only ignorance, naivete, sloth & the ever-present danger of allowing ones affairs to fall into the hands of toothless ten-percenters.

145 Geepers

Nothing snide or nasty about that. Most people with your kind of leverage seem to hunker down & start snarling when their natural preconceptions go down the tube...Congratulations on making my point that Cicero in fact delivered those words (immortalized by Cato). If you can stay there for one second, I'll wrap this up.

Carthage would not have been invaded had it not been for the oration of Cicero and his constant use of Cato's phrase. Herein lies the rub. Say something often enough... watching the right even remotely toast the "sarcastic" invade canada premise. Its dubious irresponsible language that gives serious affront. And we haven't even gotten started on the historic paralells between that ancient state and ours...the dirty little canadians.

To this end, while waiting to throw the I-BOMB at me, you have failed to address any of the points offered, namely, what do you propose as a satisfactory remedy to bringing Islam into the 21st century?

Thanx, you scurvy pigfuckers. All I wanted today was another goddamned American telling me what is wrong in my own backyard. It confirmed my life-long belief that "there is no paranoia." Only ignorance, naivete, sloth & the ever-present danger of allowing ones affairs to fall into the hands of toothless ten-percenters.

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"SOME hijabs cover the mouth. "

Not if you get them at Hijabs-R-Us...

[Link: www.hijabs-r-us.com...]

hijabs R us is a real islamic sounding name so they must be right.

#151 Grim Reaper : Great post, wonderful just wonderful. I agree with Delta Burka, this is a great escape from the land of Liberal Indoctrination. That is until CSIS comes knocking...lol.

But I don't know if Ottawa or Toronto makes a prettier target for them, I figure if they ever hit anything it will probably be the CN Tower, they'd hope to knock it over and into the downtown if they could. I should take some pictures next time I'm there...security? Canada? What security.

Oh wait...that only applies to the politicans...how silly of me.

I say, how about a trade: if we can't see their face, then they should SHOW US THEIR BREASTS!!

#162

This is a good idea :)