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Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 6:30:31 pm PDT

In a topic containing the stolen email addresses of many Protest Warrior mailing list subscribers, a Nazimedia Morlock threatens web attacks against LGF and Instapundit:

Re: Phone numbers, addresses, and e-mails of over 1600 RNC delegates!

by DownWithRNC
(No verified email address)
Current rating: 0
22 Aug 2004

TIME TO SHUT DOWN LGF, INSTAFASCIST AND THE REST...BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

THE DIGITAL BROWNSHIRTS WILL BE STOPPED.

ENJOY YOUR LAST NIGHT OF SAFETY GLEN, CHARLES AND THE REST...TICK, TOCK, THE END IS NEAR FOR YOU FASCISTS.

I’ve alerted everyone possible about this threat, accompanied as it is by the revelation of hundreds of private email addresses.

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1 [Engineer]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:33:32pm

Charles

Both those links are the same URL

2 Pickle  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:34:08pm

I don't suppose this moron realizes how ironic it is that he's calling others brownshirts, after basically threatening to take down any website that doesn't support his own ideology...

3 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:34:12pm

Charles,

You already know that you are doing an amazing service to all, and their threat only confirms it.

Screw them.

4 TalkinKamel  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:34:16pm

I especially love the "By any means necessary" quote; how very 60's!

5 Sarah D.  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:36:06pm

#3 NY Nana

Hey there! Still nothing in the email box. Did it get bounced back to you?

6 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:36:15pm

Charles,

That didn't sound like he was threatening a web attack. That sounded like a death threat.

Keep safe.

7 SteveC  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:37:12pm

Underhanded, but understandable.

When a big SOB kicks in the door and announces "There's a new Sherriff in town!" -- most folks don't take that too kindly. Especially if they are up to no good!

8 johnCV  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:37:13pm

The world is getting nastier by the day.

A chasm is opening between those who see the true enemy and are willing to stand up, and those who hate for the love of hating. I don't see any near term resolution, but I do fear the long term consequences.

9 Belize042  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:37:30pm

If this is my last night of safety, I want to get a pizza with everything, screw the calories. Oh, and I'm going to invite my girlfriend over and order Pay Per View movies. We can watch as many as we want, but we'll be in the detention centers when the bill comes. That'll show 'em.

Digital brownshirts? Is that when you're shopping for clothes online, and click on the link to view the current offering in brown?

Also, I see that the stain posting this threat has a "rating" of zero.

That is the first time I've agreed with Nazimedia.

10 Mentat  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:38:04pm

I hope these people realize that, if they do this to us, we will do it to them.

11 Beagle  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:39:41pm

Lock and load people. We're through the looking glass. The eagle has landed. Broken arrow. It's been a nice fu(4!^g war, gentlemen.

[what a bunch of drama queens]

12 Mashiki  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:40:31pm

#3 NY Nana :

Agreed. But it sounds much deeper then a threat against the site, it sounds personal. Much like Dar ul Harbarian said. Nasty little cockroaches...who's got the pest spray?

13 Asher Abrams  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:41:57pm

THE END IS NEAR FOR YOU FASCISTS
sincerely,
asher abrams

14 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:43:16pm

Charles: time to call in the Feebs. I personally don't care if they get mine; I never answer the phone anyway, but the very threat pisses me off so...call the FBI and sick 'em onto these guys.

Can you protect yourself? That's all I'm concerned about is that they don't somehow get into your system.

15 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:43:51pm

this is justin from the chicago chapter of protest warrior.

they've done it. they took out protest warrior.

the issue now is how do we punnish this? how do we leave them flailing withoiut communications on the 29th. and how do we put down their sites.

i need help with this.

this is the e-mail we all got:

16 zulubaby  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:44:12pm

Charles, you know my home is always open to you.

17 Pickle  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:45:31pm

By the way, doesn't this constitute cyberstalking? I'd love to see Indymedia shut down by the cops for hosting this shit.

18 Minnesota Lurker  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:47:09pm

This does sound personal. These punks can't stand the truth out there, and will go to any length to stop it. Charles stay safe, and if any of anyone's contact info goes out it becomes an issue of the FBI (I believe that would be the best authority to deal with it). It concerns interstate commerce, so it is against the Constitution.

19 Mashiki  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:49:00pm

#15 -=@$$=- : Do not go after their sites. Do not attack them at all. Persue legal coucil, contact federal athorities, and get the site back up ASAP. Make sure that this gets spread out to news, and other media outlets as well. Inform them of the comments directed against PW by those on Indymedia. Get current screen captures from right NOW. When the site goes back up, post them on the site.

Outside, do what we've always done...beat them down with information.

That is my opinion.

20 Ann  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:50:31pm

#15 -=@$$=-
Those sites are fine. Who are you?

21 Fidato  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:52:08pm

Charles,

This may get burried on the other string. The email system that PW is using is unix client (sendmail) that is not what looked to me was hacked (there email is sending and receiving packets normally). The phpBB looks to me is what was hacked, I woundn't even say that, I would go as far as saying that some script kiddie learned how to use a hacking tool.

I cant go into more info regarding PW's system otherwise I would start to infringe on the law.

Which brings me to this point, since PW was hacked and indymedia published the info knowing that the info was illegally obtained. They can now be called to court. If you are on that email list write to your local FBI computer fraud unit, they actually love when they can take a look at comps.

22 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:52:15pm
23 Emery Calame  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:52:15pm

I would love to see some ridiculous idiots get five to ten years over this. Heh!

24 Artisticulated  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:52:53pm

#20 Ann
#15 -=@$$=-
Those sites are fine. Who are you?

#15 -=@$$=-
Those sites are fine. Who are you?

The more important question to ask Ann, is if he's old enough to drive, vote or drink?
LOL

25 Beagle  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:53:08pm

Charles, I hope you have your 12 gauge clue bat handy for any rabid moonbat infestations. Whether it's only playing completely unhinged is something you might judge better based on your experience. It's digital terrorism, brought to you by Nazimedia while calling LGF brownshirts. The moonbat has a talent for irony and quirky capitalization.

26 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:54:00pm

Uh-oh.

Just about an hour ago, I came out of a restaurant by St. Vincent's Hospital (NYC) to see firemen with yellow tape blocking the street, firetrucks flashing lights.

"You've gotta go around. There was a suspicious package over there," the fireman pointed to the corner as he spoke.

"In the subway?"

"Yeah. They're checking it now."

So we had to go the long way around the block. The bomb truck wasn't there yet...

The young man I walked to my subway stop with said he resented "'some people' who are scaring people unnecessarily."

"Oh, I don't know. I saw what the terrorists did downtown."

"What do you mean?"

"ERM, Ground Zero? the World Trade Center? 3,000 dead?" [ring any bells, son?]

"Oh. That." [Doh!]

"They are a very real danger, and they've been around for a long time." He had to admit the justice of that. (Was surprised, too, I think, to not get a knee-jerk agreement to change the focus to the bad old righties.)

On a lighter note (in the Elizabethan sense), I saw Monica Lewinsky this evening, trucking along 13th St. with a girlfriend.

Let the games begin.

27 Orion  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:55:22pm

If they want mine, all they have to do is e-mail me and I'll be happy to give it to 'em.

**PLEASE** come by and threaten me or my family...I'd be THRILLED if they did.


I want to add to my collection.

Orion

28 FloridaHeat  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:55:45pm

Denial of service attacks and unauthorized access to computer systems are illegal and carry large fines and even jail time. For that reason, I would not attempt attacking back. Its much more satisfying to see the little jerks dragged in front of a judge to get a year in jail followed by 5 years probation where they aren't allowed near a computer.

If Charles can run this website, he knows exactly what he needs to do.

29 Charles  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:56:00pm

Fidato: good info, thanks.

30 Asher Abrams  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:56:10pm

Sounds like Monica's tastes have changed ...

31 Ann  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:56:40pm

#24 Artisticulated:
I am more concerned about its intentions...

32 Asher Abrams  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:58:07pm

This is just further evidence that the Left is getting massively desperate. (As if any such evidence was needed.)

33 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:58:39pm

the front page is up, but all of the content behind it is oblitterated.

[Link: forum.protestwarrior.com...]
[Link: hq.protestwarrior.com...]

then they sent an e-mail out to all members from kfir (founder) address:

Modern day nazis pledging their obedience to the State and the platform
of state-sponsored terrorism - neo-fascist ProtestWarriors, you have
been HACKED by your friendly neighborhood hacker anarchist =)

Right-wing extremists are modern-day brown shirts who abuse and harass
activists who are fighting for social justice while claiming to be in
the moral right. By infiltrating and crashing legal, peaceful
assemblies, the ProtestWarriors are fighting against the democratic process while
claiming to uphold the 'core values of this country'. It is
unpatriotic to blindly accept and obey the dogma of the ruling classes, and to
lash out at peace activists who are trying to build a better world is
intolerable. We're shutting you down.

Operation Liberty Rising is right. The Republicans think that they can
rape NYC and the 9/11 attacks to further their political agenda of
endless war and breaks for the rich upper classes and multinational
corporations. The people of New York are rising up to let them know that they
won't be getting away with it. Millions of people in the streets will
be shutting the convention down, and your extremist right-wing minority
can do nothing to stop it.

We're not fighting to put Kerry in office, and we're certainly not
fighting for a socialist dictatorship. We are building a society free
from all parasitic ruling classes... Democrats, Republicans, they're all
on the same party of capitalism and the state. We dream of a world free
from presidents and politicians who exploit us enslave us and do
everything except represent us. We've had enough, and we will settle for
nothing short of total world liberation for one and all. And we're
willing to do whatever it takes to achieve these visions of a free society.


On our way to discovering what we love, we will discover everything we
hate, everything that stands in the way of freedom and justice for all.


ProtestWarriors, give up! We have you surrounded and outnumbered. See
you on the streets,

Before I go, some fun facts for the whole family: personal details of
the head organizers of ProtestWarrior, complete with password
information...

34 [Engineer]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:58:40pm

I have a copy of those pages and will discuss this with some of the Dallas PWs tromorrow to see if we want to take legal action.

I strongly advise that no PWs do anything rash. Remember Fighting the Left and doing it Right

35 mbruce  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 4:59:41pm

Lest anyone forget,and it may have been mentioned alreaddy,They're anti-gun vegetarians and the like.Those wussies can kiss my ass deep and long.worthless weak-tita the lot of them

36 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:00:36pm
37 Braintrust  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:02:30pm

"TIME TO SHUT DOWN LGF, INSTAFASCIST AND THE REST...BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

THE DIGITAL BROWNSHIRTS WILL BE STOPPED.

ENJOY YOUR LAST NIGHT OF SAFETY GLEN, CHARLES AND THE REST...TICK, TOCK, THE END IS NEAR FOR YOU FASCISTS."


This may be the single most ironic statement I've ever encountered in my life.

No words... should... have sent... a poet...


I share the planet with dangerously-naive insane people... always a shame to be reminded of that on a sunny Sunday afternoon...

Wow.


Peace

38 Artisticulated  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:02:46pm

#33 -=@$$=-

Again, dude, are you old enough to drive, vote or drink? I await your answer quivering with anticipation!

39 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:03:03pm

#34 Engineer

Do, please, take legal action! For one thing, though a lot of this is bullshit, some of them are certainly capable of taking violent action (like the Weathermen, for instance). Please protect yourselves and your families.

Also, think of the great publicity for the Left that exposing this Under-rock will generate.

/evil chuckle

40 mpax  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:03:28pm

What they are really saying is "forget free speech, forget the democratic process, we are right and you are wrong, and we will shut you up and intimidate you (as if they could)" They sound like every other fascist that helped make the 20th century run red with blood. the irony is, they don't understand what they have become.

41 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:04:30pm

mashiki:
wrong. i will not sick the fbi on them so they can portray their arrests as "persecution" of their "non-violent resistance" in the press. i intend to ruin their day.

ann:
i told you who i am

artisticulated:
blow me

42 Bleeding heart conservative  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:04:30pm

I really wonder if they (indymedia, DU) will ever realize how nazi-like they are.

One day they'll be old and grey. Will they mature? Will they ever escape this madness?

43 Beagle  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:04:54pm

#35 mbruce

They're anti-gun vegetarians and the like.

Great, a bunch of Hitlers.

44 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:06:00pm
45 inkling  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:06:01pm

Acting like a guest on Greta van Susteren, I'm going to engage in amateur criminal profiling. The morlock making the threat most likely possesses the following characteristics:
- Male heterosexual.
- Lives off diet of Dr. Pepper, Cheetos (puffed) and ramen.
- Sexually frustrated
- Thinks that new Incubus video is "way sweet"
- Lives with mother.
- Thinks Janeane Garofalo would really dig him if they ever met. He's been practicing this "killer line" about Chomsky to "seal the deal."
- Did I mention sexually frustrated?
- Recently reorganized his role-playing game manuals by date/edition.
- Thinks his high school guidance counselor is a "fascist prick," and that "bongo tuner" is a viable career choice.
- REALLY sexually frustrated. Really.

46 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:06:28pm

bleeding heart:

no. i just spent all day in the sun at the air and water show being shouted at by the old and grey ones.

47 Frank IBC  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:06:33pm

Men of renown

Don't wear brown.

48 kafir  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:06:52pm

Folks:

Hopefully the seethe-o-meter here will not be pegged by lizards. My concern is that some dhimmi-media folks are going to log in as long-timers and post trash.

I am not trying to minimize it, but just remember carefully that we enjoy the seething of the silly splodey-apologists, dhimmis and others on the other side. They may be reading this and enjoying it.

Seething on our part will not help. The ones who win battles often are calm, cool, and collected. Careful thought and action in the form of short term tactics and longer term strategies are appropriate.

I would suggest is the following, and this should be done by Charles, the PW folks, and any other concerned admin hosting such sites.

1) assess the damage. What was compromised. What was taken. What was corrupted.

2) assess the threat. I am not talking about the threat of moonbats posting with spoofed ids. I am talking about threat in a heirarchical sense:

a) is there a threat to people, locations, etc. if so, what it its likelihood (rough guess)

b) is there a threat to electronic sites, commerce, business, livelihood.

c) ...

3) given 1 and 2, decide upon a larger picture view of security, personal and site. If you need to involve law enforcement, do it.

For example, the threat to Aaron on the IH was reported to the FBI. Not a clue if they did anything on it, but it was reported.

Regardless, don't go pre-emptive. Protect yourself and the sites, but do not start attacking their sites. The best antidote for things like this is a bright shining light. Call the media. Carefully, logically, explain what happened, who you are, why you are concerned. Make sure they regurgitate it (media types love putting their own spin on things, to the point of fabricating plots, words, etc. ).

Develop saner security. Multilayer it. Security is in part about containing damage you cannot stop, and the rapid recovery from such.

Good luck, and keep your wits about you. We are with you.

49 wowbagger  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:06:56pm

Charles:

coordinate with your ISP or even the FBI and honeypot LGF. Ensnare the bastards...

50 Artisticulated  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:07:49pm

-=@$$=- If that IS your real name.

Isn't it a drag when somebody sees you? I know it's more fun to hide in the playhouse.

51 Ann  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:08:12pm

-=@$$=-
Oh, you are a failure and it is "society's" fault. I understand now.

52 SoCalJustice  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:09:01pm

OT

Arab "American Idol"

Palestinians Cheer 'Superstar' Contestant

For Palestinians, this is more than just a TV show. It's a matter of national pride for a people that has yet to establish a state. Hassan, 26, whose full name is Ammar Hassan Dakrouq, reached the final round by singing songs of the Palestinian struggle against Israeli occupation of the lands they claim.

In his family home in Salfit, father Hassan Dakrouq sang along when his son appeared on screen singing "Any Tear of Sadness," a sentimental number made popular by Egyptian performer Abdel Khalim Hafez. His mother, Itidal, cried as she gazed at the screen.

In the nearby park, spectators waving pictures of their hero chanted, "Ammar, Ammar, superstar." A similar gathering in Ramallah was called off because of complaints it was inappropriate while Palestinians in Israeli prisons are on a hunger strike demanding better conditions.

The consensus is that a vote for Hassan is a vote for the Palestinian cause — and that by itself would make Hassan a popular favorite. But Hassan also is a legitimate performer. He has a degree in music from A-Najah University in Nablus and has appeared in upscale restaurants around the West Bank city.

Not everyone's down with the propaganda machine, though:

However, support is not unanimous. Hamas, a violent Palestinian movement that adheres to a strict form of Islam, released an angry statement.

"Our people are in need of heroes, resistance fighters and contributors to building the country and are not in need of singers, corruption mongers and advocates of immorality," the statement said.

Hamas, always a killjoy.

/sarc

53 Ms. Andi  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:09:09pm

For all the PWs coming here, I know you're pissed but don't do anything crazy, please. Don't even think of hacking, cracking or whatever back.

I'm sure Alan and Kfir and whomever are working on this.

Just document everything you get in the mail or worse and forward to the FBI. Maybe you can take legal action later.

54 Frank IBC  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:09:15pm

honeypot LGF.

We've already got Zulubaby and Evariste. :)

55 mpax  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:09:30pm

#44 Congrats and well done. I spent an hour helping someone fathom why Ed Koch has come out in support of Bush. I might have moved her over to the Republican side.

56 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:10:22pm
57 Rant Wraith  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:11:46pm

Charles, you seem to be a prudent man. i don't know how seriously people should take these threats but LGF does have an office space open to the public. I think Instapundit keeps too public a profile. how hard would it be to find his home address? I know it would all too easy to find his office.

remember what a Leftist nut did to Pim Fortuyn.

58 andrew  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:12:03pm

I question the timing of these 'hacks'.

/you know

59 Artisticulated  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:12:13pm

#56 American Infidel

I want John F'n Kerry to denounce this...

LOL! I think Kerry's daughter was his babysitter.

60 addison  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:14:13pm

Ann,

Oh, you are a failure and it is "society's" fault. I understand now.


Perhaps you are mistaking @$$ for one from Indymedia. The e-mail he posted was sent by Indymedia people; he implied he is one of the Protest Warrior types.

61 Asher Abrams  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:14:17pm

Funny, you know I actually hadn't thought about Protest Warrior in a couple of days. Damn shame, too, since they're doing such important work.

Anyway, I just wanted to thank indymedia for reminding me of Protest Warrior's importance ...

... ah, here's the confirmation e-mail now ...

62 greenmiler  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:15:09pm

she told me some tastes are hard to get rid of

63 Asher Abrams  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:15:22pm

Payment Details
Amount: $100.00 USD Transaction ID: 4LM01617EG4487239 Quantity: 1 Item/Product Name: protestwarrior activities Buyer: asher abrams Message: Keep on fighting for freedom! Don't worry about those indymedia idiots - they are desperate.

64 Ann  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:15:47pm
We've had enough, and we will settle for


Shari'a.

65 [Engineer]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:16:04pm

#39 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)

Do, please, take legal action! For one thing, though a lot of this is bullshit, some of them are certainly capable of taking violent action (like the Weathermen, for instance). Please protect yourselves and your families.

At the moment, I think we need to work as a national group and plan how to counter this. There are enough of us that are good stable tax paying citizens that I am sure we can get the FBI involved in a major way, which I am thinking is the right way to do this.

66 Outlaw_Wizard  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:16:12pm

Okay folks,

Having been asked to to some checking on this, I advise this as a first step.

If you are on the e-mail list posted at indymedia, note the following:

nyc.indymedia.org

Resolves to
Tracert
216.82.161.253

10 80 ms 80 ms 80 ms atm3-0-182-20M.cr1.SJC.gblx.net [208.50.13.113]
11 101 ms 110 ms 110 ms so3-0-0-2488M.ar1.JFK1.gblx.net [67.17.72.18]
12 111 ms 110 ms 110 ms 216.128.66.98
13 121 ms 110 ms 110 ms 216.82.161.253


128.95.76.170

12 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms dustbuster-GE1-8.cac.washington.edu [140.142.153.2]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 40 ms 51 ms 50 ms quanyin.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.170]


209.133.53.10

10 80 ms 80 ms 80 ms gw-transbay.transbay.net [209.249.37.108]
11 80 ms 80 ms 90 ms cromwell-sj.transbay.net [209.133.55.9]
12 81 ms 90 ms 80 ms gauss.transbay.net [209.133.53.10]


E-Mail

to: abuse@gblx.net
abuse@apl.washington.edu
abuse@transbay.net

subject: Abuse by subscriber to your service


Then proceed to FBI.

Da_Wiz Sends

67 Asher Abrams  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:16:21pm

62/greenmiller

heh heh ...

68 MootPoint  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:17:15pm

Looks like something done by teenage punks who need the ass-whoopin they never got from their pansy assed daddy.

Fight back within the law, hopefully you will be able to get the perps sent up for a while. It would do these spoiled brats some good to spend a few months in a 6X9 with their new boyfriend Bubba.

69 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:18:01pm

ann and artisticulated:
i've cooled off a bit. the wisecracks remain unappreciated.

70 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:18:58pm
71 mpax  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:21:17pm

I had registered with PW just before I heard of the hacking. This is the message i received as a confirmation of the registration:

ProtestWarrior HQ is being updated with better security measures. No worries though, we will be back online by tomorrow morning. -kfir

As for those who want to disrupt the NYC convention, from here in the heart of sooty, hectic, glorious midtown Manhattan, I can only repeat the words of Jean-Francois: "Bring it on!"
(Only I mean it)

72 mpax  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:22:04pm

Sloppy with quote marks , sorry.
From PWProtestWarrior HQ is being updated with better security measures. No worries though, we will be back online by tomorrow morning. -kfir:

73 'Nam Grunt  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:22:33pm

I wonder if he drives around at night with blue lights beneath his ride.

74 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:22:41pm

#5 Sarah D

It wasn't bounced back. I will resend right now. Maybe the LLL moonbats got it???

75 Ms. Andi  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:22:50pm

#69

Are any Chicago PWs planning to go to the RNC?

ps Glad you're cooled off, the left is getting desperate, don't let them turn you into one of them. I'm on that list as well, but I going to take the legal route to deal with it.

76 Ann  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:24:10pm

#69
Do not ever address me by name again.

77 Sarah D.  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:26:17pm

NY Nana, got that one.

78 Security Mom  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:27:50pm
This evening I converted 2 peeps that have voted democratic in the past, to vote for George W. Bush...

Excellent!

and a side note to visiting DUmmies: we are not extremists. We are the mainstream. You just don't know it because we are not loud. Ever heard the term "silent majority"? That's us.

Who is screaming and spitting with rage? Who is threatening people who hold different opinions? Who is planning attacks? Not us. It's you.

79 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:28:01pm

a few of us.

they will be coordinating from offices above the fray via cell phones and bike messengers.

80 M. Simon  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:28:32pm

If Kerry's daughter will wear the "dress" she can babysit me any time. She is probably the most sensible of the lot. More into pleasure than politics.

--==--

What is the War Hero Afraid of?
Form 180. Release ALL the records.

81 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:28:50pm

i was wrong. i havn't cooled off. going out for a smoke.

82 Dianna  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:29:50pm

I wanted to go to New York, but my boss threatened to handcuff me to my desk - his neighbor is a police officer, so he could get the cuffs - and the male of the species threatened to arrange an accident on the stairs.

That was last week. Now I really, really want to go.

What's a good protest warrior to do?

83 Darleen  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:30:18pm

Can I please suggest that besides contacting the Feds you contact your local District Attorney and find out if they have a special Computer crimes unit? Or at state level with your AG.

Sometimes your locals will move faster than the Feds.

84 Godzilla  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:30:50pm

'Nam Grunt

How the hell are you?

85 adamthemadman  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:31:24pm

#44 American Infidel

Do tell. What happened? What was your modus operandi? Please tell me you weren't pointing a gun at them? 'Cause I don't think that counts...

adam the Madman

In a world of insanity, only the mad are sane...er, king of the blind...umm, or somethinglikethat...

86 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:32:15pm

ann:
goodness! are we upset.

87 Ann  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:33:32pm

#75 Ms. Andi:

don't let them turn you into one of them.


Protest Warriors are sharp. This thing is not. I am still not convinced of its good intentions.

88 'Nam Grunt  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:34:27pm

Godzilla,

I'm good and you?

89 happycynic  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:36:17pm

Charles,

Time to put the 12 gauge under the bed.

90 Dianna  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:38:35pm

Night, all, it's movie time.

91 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:39:42pm
92 Godzilla  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:42:37pm

Good. Looks like we're in for a barn burner of a week, Kerry, the anachists.

93 'Nam Grunt  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:44:57pm

Godzilla,

Yeah I can't wait for all the papers and news shows tomorrow, kerry may commit suicide this week, fucking asshat.

94 militarybrat  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:46:03pm

re:the term "honeypot"

Now, I'm a 'puter retard, so I may be missing something.

But whenever I see Pooh talking about his honey pots on TV, it reminds me of honeybuckets. The same word association happened here.

And Air Force honeybuckets are NOT nice. They don't contain barbecue wings from KFC. I've heard terrible stories about them. And I don't think they'd keep the infestation of pubic lice from aidemydni away - they like to pick those things up and throw them on cops while complaining about first amendment right infringements.

95 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:46:29pm
96 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:49:02pm
97 Godzilla  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:51:31pm

'Nam Grunt

He needs to commit suicide, he really does. My fingers are crossed that nothing blows up in New York.

98 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:52:00pm

#77 Sarah G

Good! :)

99 Connecticut Yankee  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:52:22pm

OT, hope it's OK to post something humorous--sometimes a good laugh makes it easier to take stuff like Morlock activity. I found this via Michele at A Small Victory, it's from Farm Accident Digest:

Cooking With Candidates

Since we recently read a column which explained that the Ladies Home Journal presidential candidate's wife's cookie recipe issue is the most sexist thing in the world and the proof that all women who vote Republican are gender traiters trying to return women to a world in which they are forced into kitchens, impregnated then herded into back alleys for abortions, we here at Farm Accident Digest decided it was time to break that cycle. So today we present the first ever Cooking With Candidates issue. Each candidate, both for president and vice president, has provided us with their favorite recipe. As a special bonus, we also invited Ralph Nader to provide his favorite as well. We thought about asking Michael Moore, but decided that was just too easy a joke...

John Kerry's Vietnam Chili
2lbs London Broil (for searing).
4tbs Chili Powder
2tbs Chipotle Chili Powder
3tbs Cumin
1tbs Garlic Powder
1 Medium Onion Chopped
1 Red Bell Pepper Chopped
8oz Tomato Sauce
10oz Chicken Broth
12oz Dark Beer (Redhook's Winterhook is best)
6oz Chopped Pickled Jalapenos
2 Chopped Chipotles
1 Can Chopped Tomatoes

When I cook, I like to wear my lucky chef's hat which was given to me in Cambodia by Wolfgang Puck who wore it when he was a spy in Germany during the Franco-Prussian War, but you can do whatever you like. First, cut the meat into half inch cubes, then heat in a pan over medium high heat until it is seared -- seared! Locate the seared -- seared! -- meat to a plate, by which I mean a large pot in a completely different location.

Cook the chopped onion and bell pepper into the pan where you seared -- seared! -- the meat until they are soft. Add to the seared -- seared! -- meat. Combine the powders and add about half to the seared -- seared! -- meat. Pour some of the beer into the pan you seared -- seared! -- the meat in and scrape up the goodies from the bottom. Dump the rest of the beer and the contents of the pan that was used to sear -- sear! -- the meat to the pot. Add the rest of the ingredients save for the reserved spices to the pot and bring to a boil. After a couple minutes of boil, turn down heat and gently simmer.

After 30 minutes stir in half of remaining spices. Simmer for another hour, then add the remaining spices. Simmer for another 30 minutes -- thinning if necessary with tomato juice -- or until the meat which was seared -- seared! -- is completely tender.

George Bush's Marinated Steak
1 Steak
Lemon Juice from a Lemon
Some of that Worstisheer Sauce
Couple Cloves of Garlic
Black Pepper (You mean there's other kinds? Someone get Karl on this.)

Mix the stuff until it tastes good to you. Add to plastic freezer bag, put steak in bag, put in fridge for a couple hours. Get grill going. Put steak on grill. Go somewhere...maybe...make sure no one is sure where you are or not, but be sure someone flips that steak after 6 minutes. After another 6 minutes, be sure to be there otherwise you won't be able to eat that steak.

The Edwards, Cheney, and Nader recipes are funny, too.

[Link: farmaccidentdigest.com...]

100 Stop Hillary  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:52:41pm

Time for everyone to safely and prudently exercise their Second Amendment rights.

101 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:53:38pm
102 Artisticulated  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:54:26pm

#91 -=@$$=-

My sincerest apologies, I misjudged you by your nic and didn't realize you were simply passing on the info. I thought you were mouthing it as your own. I read too fast because I type too slow.

If you do work with PW, keep it up!

Again sorry for the wrongful schmear.

103 kafir  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:54:52pm

#94 ...brat

A honeypot is a set of services or machines which purport to be something valuable, specifically put out as bait, so white hats can watch script kiddies (misbehaving children), and black hats (nasty nasty) methods.

Basically you place something out there which seems to serve pages, or process logins. Then you watch the logs. It is a sentinal system. If it is cracked, nothing is lost. Significant intelligence is gained on "sources" and "methods" of the opponents.

The danger is that the honeypot could be "made" which immediately destroys its utility. Real (smart) hackers will avoid it.

Some attacks are benign probes, some are incredibly aggressive. It is important to watch the evolution of the attack, so you place a "pot of honey" out there to attact the attackers.

In some locales, a honeypot is illegal. Courtesy of legislatures that do not understand the need to understand how intruders intrude. Privacy trumps all.

104 IowaGirl  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:55:33pm

#96 American Infidel

Excellent job! I wish you continued success on your mission. If only I were as capable. . .

105 Anna  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:55:46pm

Those who have suffered this mischief. Get your logs turned into hardcopy. Investigate your logs first. Check your back-ups. Document and document again anything that has been altered. May want to leave things disconnected from the Internet but running in situ just in case you want a computer crimes unit[s] to look it over.
Get law enforcement involved. Do not even mention to the press thier political affiliations. Remove all chances of them claiming to be political, stick to the crimes. This is PR war, they hacked, defaced, and stole passwords. Treat them as criminals. And hammer them hard.
Fight this latest skirmish smart and thorough.

106 freedomsound  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:57:26pm

I heard this on the radio (1010WINS) the other day:

NYPD to Shadow 56 Protesters Believed Most Dangerous

Sources say the NYPD has identified 56 primary anarchists who will be followed 24 hours a day. One supervisor and six cops will be assigned to each person.

Sources say detectives are leaving this weekend for Boston, Washington D.C., North Carolina, and California to begin surveillance and tail the protestors as they travel to New York.

How many of those 56 are indymediots? Hehehe.

107 'Nam Grunt  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 5:59:20pm

Godzilla,

I believe that the fed's have NY pretty much locked down but you never know what these nut's will do.

108 norar  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:01:31pm

Now I know why these fascists call themselves 'Independent' media. Their common dream is to be independend from the democratic process of debate. What a banch of humourless brainless hateful creatures.

109 Ms. Andi  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:02:25pm
Revolution!
No War But Class War!
No Maps But Topo Maps

What are Topo Maps?

110 Godzilla  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:03:47pm

'Nam Grunt

The police have to be tough and hard, lethal if necessary.

111 freedomsound  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:04:53pm

#109 Ms. Andi

topographical

112 'Nam Grunt  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:06:30pm

Godzilla,

Agreed 100%, well bud, I'm off to the shower and bed, see you tomorrow be safe.

113 Quasi  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:07:01pm

#109

My guess would be topographical maps. The other type of map being the political map which only shows political boundries. Topographical usually only shows the terrain details of the land and not the borders.

114 rw  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:07:19pm

Is there some official reason that U of Wa is hosting nyc.indymedia.org???

apl is applied physics lab, if I'm not mistaken.

If this is a staff member or student hosting this unofficially, a complaint can be filed with the state ethics board and any illegal activity will be forwarded to the WA AG. There's also an internal audit unit within the University that is supposed to act more quickly than the Ethics Board.

115 Mashiki  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:07:49pm

#110 Godzilla: A interesting article from the NYDaily.
Go ahead, make our day.

116 Ms. Andi  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:09:37pm

#111 freedomsound

Thanks, but I still don't get it. A topography map sure would be hard to fold up and put in your pocket. Or do their utopian fantasies see a future without ...errr...regular maps?

117 Paul  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:10:42pm

Mrs. Andi, #109

What are topo maps?

Probably shorthand for topographical maps. These maps detail both the natural and artificial (man made) features of the terrain. They're used extensively by the military and hikers, campers, etc.

118 Lizardoid Minion #32603  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:11:47pm

If PW was running phpBB, that could well have been point of entry. There have been 4 or 5 updates in the last few months to address security issues (mostly SQL injections). It's a great package - I run it myself - but like anything these days you have to keep on top of the patches.

119 [Engineer]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:11:50pm

#109 Ms. Andi

What are Topo Maps?

Short for Topographic maps.

Like this:

[Link: terraserver.microsoft.com...]

120 Darleen  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:13:40pm

Ms Andi

I didn't get the Topo reference either, but it makes "sense" as far as anarchists go. They "don't believe" in any state or government structure. They don't believe in borders or nations. They really are dangerous totalitarian loons masquarading as utopians.

121 [Engineer]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:15:01pm

#109 Ms. Andi

I understand now, they mean maps without political units - cities, states etc

122 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:15:14pm
123 Right Wing Conspirator  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:16:38pm

Sorry, I haven't read through the thread yet and was just about to post about this.

Darn you LGF, scooped again, :-)

Anywho, email from PW (well, really the email sent to them -

Modern day nazis pledging their obedience to the State and the platform of state-sponsored terrorism - neo-fascist ProtestWarriors, you have been HACKED by your friendly neighborhood hacker anarchist =)

Right-wing extremists are modern-day brown shirts who abuse and harass activists who are fighting for social justice while claiming to be in the moral right. By infiltrating and crashing legal, peaceful assemblies, the ProtestWarriors are fighting against the democratic process while claiming to uphold the 'core values of this country'. It is unpatriotic to blindly accept and obey the dogma of the ruling classes, and to lash out at peace activists who are trying to build a better world is intolerable. We're shutting you down.

Operation Liberty Rising is right. The Republicans think that they can rape NYC and the 9/11 attacks to further their political agenda of endless war and breaks for the rich upper classes and multinational corporations. The people of New York are rising up to let them know that they won't be getting away with it. Millions of people in the streets will be shutting the convention down, and your extremist right-wing minority can do nothing to stop it.

We're not fighting to put Kerry in office, and we're certainly not fighting for a socialist dictatorship. We are building a society free from all parasitic ruling classes... Democrats, Republicans, they're all on the same party of capitalism and the state. We dream of a world free from presidents and politicians who exploit us enslave us and do everything except represent us. We've had enough, and we will settle for nothing short of total world liberation for one and all. And we're willing to do whatever it takes to achieve these visions of a free society.

On our way to discovering what we love, we will discover everything we hate, everything that stands in the way of freedom and justice for all.

ProtestWarriors, give up! We have you surrounded and outnumbered. See you on the streets,

Before I go, some fun facts for the whole family: personal details of the head organizers of ProtestWarrior, complete with password information


Ahhh, the LLL idea of open political debate. Don't ya just love it.

124 AG in Houston  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:17:56pm

#54 Frank IBC

'Honeypot' is a weapon.

125 AG in Houston  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:19:05pm

The Indymedia link is either down or has been disconnected.

126 greenmiler  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:19:33pm

In a recent article about people in NY and FL registered in both states, the breakdown speaks volumes..

Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans and 16% didn't claim a party

Says a lot about liberal values and character

127 Godzilla  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:21:46pm

#115 Mashiki

Good. It looks like we won't have a repeat of Seattle, at least.

128 Ms. Andi  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:22:02pm

Ok, I get it now. Thanks all. (re: the map thing)

129 Reader2  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:22:24pm

OT

The military records at Kerry's website seemed to have been removed.

The PDF's come up blank.

Anyone have copies?

130 greenmiler  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:23:05pm
'Honeypot' is a weapon


uhhh he he heh..he said honeypot heheh

131 Kevin P.  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:25:19pm

Stay safe, Charles.

The LLL crowd is crowing over the hacking of PW.

132 Naarah  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:25:42pm

Indymedia website down...maybe they realized by posting people's email addys they were breaking their scared love of right to "privacy?" What a bunch of spanks. Obviously they realized it was illegal to post email addys w/ user permisson and had the site shut down for fear this action could get them in trouble with the law, lawsuits or be held responsible for violence or threats made to PWs by the pacifists. Heaven forbid leftists do anything illegal.

133 Furthamathur  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:26:32pm

Reader2
#129

I have a few of them, but not all.

134 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:28:19pm

This site, threatening to reveal the delegates' hotels, names, etc., is no longer available...the page comes up, but with this message:

Unknown ID Error
Database failed to return a unique record for this query, or you are not authorized to access that record.
Go back

Any ideas? What happened? Did those LLL bastards just make it available to users, or were they taken down? Since the actual page shows, I would go with them making it available to fellow anarchists.

135 Robt S.  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:30:04pm

Operation Liberty Rising?

Hah!

More like Operation Cybershari'a Rising.

136 Mashiki  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:30:17pm

#127 Godzilla :
That's what I was thinking. If they do, they'll get their asses kicked over it. Ahh...the smell of morlocks roasting in the tear gas. Brings a tear to my eye...

Take it easy all, good night.

137 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:30:49pm
138 vtrtl  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:32:01pm

hm... what's a fellow to do on his last night of safety?

guess I'll pour a martini and clean my 1911... cause guess what? you can't hurt me with my email address, you can only annoy me.

but 230 grain FMJ 45 ACP is only $79.99 for 300 shiny new rounds at Cabella's.

and patchoulli oil does not stop them.


man if these guys ever get the revolution they are praying for...

139 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:32:34pm
140 freedomsound  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:32:55pm

#128 Ms. Andi

Ok, I get it now. Thanks all. (re: the map thing)

Sorry, I was reading another thread. I am too slow ;)

141 riverofpearls  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:37:07pm

Testing 1 2 3

142 DaGoddess  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:39:16pm

I can't access the list at all. Couldn't tell you if I'm on it or not.

Personally, I feel like Arthur, King of the Britons, facing the Black Knight. Except these guys don't have one of those cool suits of armor.

143 Naarah  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:41:06pm

Check out this website (sorry about the long thread, not used to commenting on this site). This is the email that was sent out to all the left wing groups in Seattle in order to combat the "warmongers" that crashed Seattle longest running "peace vigil." This is the email that whipped 350 people into a frenzy of hatred, violence and anger against 5 little Protest Warrior.
misc.activism.progressive

My favorite lines are:

"I don't think that it should ever look like there are more Bush supporters there than progressives"
[Link: 64.4.18.250...]

"By the way, the republican folks were mostly quite friendly, and did not pose any threat to any of us. A bit obnoxious perhaps, with some of their questions, but there is no need to respond to them as they already knowthe "correct" answers."

Classic! These lefties could actually be funny if they were not so scary.

Their plans for the RNC are also available...


[Link: 64.4.18.250...]

144 badanov  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:41:32pm

NYNana

They took down the site and the link to the file containing the .csv file. I downloaded the file out of curiousity.

The rapid action with which the site was taken is an indication indymedia probably knows the kind of trouble they are in now and they are trying to cotnain as much of the damage as they can.

Anyone who wants to know if they are on the list, email me and I will look in the file.

145 Robert Schwartz  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:42:45pm

Damn their gonna fill my inbox with spam!

146 adamthemadman  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:43:22pm

96# American Infidel

Cool. It sounds like you were dealing with rational people, not to diminish your powers of persuation. Capital job nontheless.

I would have to agree that terrorism and our war against it is probably the best tool to get dhimmis to admit their positions can lead to a severely compromised America. Preservation of Self runs deep. Or at least with the sane.

Sometimes I try the tact of getting my friends to admit that they form their political thoughts from emotion rather than ration and examination of evidence. Doesn't always work, but sometimes they will admit they are reflexive in arriving at positions. It great to reach that point with them; you can see the wall crumble inside their skulls. They will make absurd ripostes or back down.

Facts work with the poorly informed. The misinformed aka anyone who has read Chumpsky / Ehrlich / Said / Foucault will always cough up some asinine invidious comparison, "America trained Sadaam Hussein to kill his own people and gave him weapons so America is to blame."

147 zionistentity  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:43:41pm

I've been planning for news like this. I've several "hardened" servers, bandwidth, 7x24x365 security, a full checkbook and am ready for the fight. If any PW's or LGF'ers need an email address(es), DNS, or safe web hosting or data storage, just say so -- it's yours.

148 veebee  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:44:14pm

Kevin P #131
Funny they call it civil disobedience. In classic case of civil disobedience citizens violate the laws they find objectionable. In this case LLL are protesting freedom of speech.

149 [Engineer]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:45:48pm

#142 DaGoddess

I saved the page. If you wish, send me an email and I will send it to you.

150 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:46:44pm

artisticulated:
no problem. i would've expected a troll as well.

in other news, the website with the delegates names addresses and hotels is
[Link: www.rncdelegates.com...]

151 Right Wing Conspirator  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:47:18pm

#148 veebee

In classic case of civil disobedience citizens violate the laws they find objectionable. In this case LLL are protesting freedom of speech.

Bingo.

152 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:50:06pm

-=@$$=-:

Did you get the URL off the post to you? If so, use the system you are on or post it here and someone will do a WHOIS. That's for openers.

Then when you find out from that who their ISP is, you can contact the ISP and tell them what their client is up to. If for some reason you can't do that or you're using a friend's computer and you can't be online that long, one of us can compose the email for your okay and then they can send it out.

Take it from there. Make copies of everything that hasn't been corrupted. Make copies of any transmissions and ID from them.

After contacting their ISP, if that person or service is cooperative, send their ISP proof and copies of their correspondence to you and the threat.

Pretty soon you won't have to hack them--they'll be looking for a new ISP.

That's the tame stuff. A more pro-active approach should be discussed and once you're up and running again protections will have to be established. Consider an organization such as TypeKey for your member list but before signing on with them, make sure they can handle the security angle.

Keep us posted and if we, together or individually can do anything such as type up new lists or whatever, let us know. If you need notices sent to PWs, we can do that from our units. You are not alone.

Once last thing--make duplicate hard copies of any addresses etc. and place them in a secure place--safe deposit box or whatever so that if for some reason you have a 'Pentagon Papers-type' burglary, you will still have copies of your important stuff.

153 RedWhiteAndJew  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 6:54:56pm

Hmm. I registered with ProtestWarrior a few months ago, but my email address is not on the list. I feel left out.

154 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:01:30pm

nah.chicago indymedia still has it up i think.

how do i do a whois search.

thanks for the support and talking me down. i definately won't be doing anything rash. it's been my experience that all it takes is the presence of one thinking patriot to ruin forty lll's day.

155 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:01:51pm
156 TheHussar  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:02:40pm

The perp who made the "by any emans necessary" remark is obviously in the ISM. Next week, check out our new website, [Link: www.StoptheISM.com...] , then they will know what "by any means necessary means...

157 The Hardcore One  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:06:04pm

Been lurking a long time and have occasionally posted in the past...but things like this and the attack on PW just takes the frickin' cake.

If these morons want to post my e-mail and all that other info, fine...don't expect a happy joyful reception at my front door or on the phone. I'll be more than happy to show off my freedoms protected under the 1st amendment...and if they really wanna press the issue, I could also show off my knowledge of my 2nd amendment rights as well...but let's hope these unwashed less-than-useful idiots don't travel down THAT road...

More proof that the LLLs are scared and are willing to do ANYTHING to stifle what isn't their point of view...and they call conservatives "brownshirts"...

Peter Finch said it best, folks...

"I'm as mad as Hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!"

Charles, keep up the great work...and don't let these bastards get you down, man.

158 Stinky  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:06:35pm

From the anti-Protest Warrior threat:

We're not fighting to put Kerry in office, and we're certainly not fighting for a socialist dictatorship. We are building a society free from all parasitic ruling classes... Democrats, Republicans, they're all on the same party of capitalism and the state.

What a fucking worthless idiot. What a dangerous, fucking worthless idiot. I'd like to see this Indymedia moron explain how he will maintain a high production of goods and services, which he probably enjoys (hemp shirts, CDs, Computers, movie theatres that show Michael Moore Crockumentaries), WITHOUT a market system that brings a variety of goods and services to the populace, WITHOUT the Rule of Law the gives people the security to cooperate freely, WITHOUT the Iron Will of One leader who would be able to push through uniform centralized planning over the pluralistic desires of a democratic society (Democratic Socialism is oxymoronic). These people are seriously clueless of the criticisms of their ideology. Pick up a fucking book, shitface. Here's a start: Myster of Capital, Heaven on Earth, and Road to Serfdom.

Motherfucking worthless piece of shit. My dog just took a dump behind the couch, and that little gift added more to the Universe than this little lobotomized twerp did. The only good thing this guy will offer the world is the paycheck his mortician recieves for performing what will hopefully be an intriguing autopsy...("How'd he get THAT up THERE so FAR?!?").

I'm sorry but I'm sick of it. If I was President, I'd give these socialist pukes what they want--I'd carve out a state about the size of Israel + West Bank/Gaza out in one of these pain in the ass Leftist states like Cali, Wash, or Oregon. The Gov't owns 1/3 of the land outwest, it can do whatever the hell it wants. Then round up and dump these Green Party/Indymedia/Moron.org asshats there, and tell them, "Viva la Revolucion! Make of it, what you will!" Build a wall around it, guards around it, call the country "Socialism WOW!" (the exclamation point mandatory), and let them form whatever "Post-Capitalist" anarcho-hypocritical Chomskyite mess they have in mind. Here, buddy, go build your own anti-capitalist banking system. Here, buddy, go regulate the money supply. Here, buddy, create incentives to work hard, ironically w/o any of the incentives to work hard, and all the incentives to be free loaders living off of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Here, buddy, try and learn about the laws of supply and demand, the law of comparative advantage the hard way.

Oh, and do this w/o a dime from the U.S., and do it all w/o a "socialist dictatorship".

And if anyone tries to leave the inevitable mistake, the guards point their guns and shout, "Listen, Motherfucker, you made your bed wanking off to some socialist utopia, go back and lay it your own shit motherfucker!" Just like that, every time.

Boy can dream, can't he?

159 applesweet  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:07:09pm

I just accessed
[Link: images.indymedia.org...]

The list is still there. Does anyone want it?

160 badanov  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:09:31pm

Okie Dokie.

A copy of the site is up for your viewing pleasure. The link to the files has been changed. Go a head and click on it

161 Mus Zibii  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:10:44pm

'War' is a bit of a grandiose term for 'spam'.

162 badanov  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:11:50pm

Oopsies. I guess single quotes are ano no.

Okie Dokie.

A copy of the site is up for your viewing pleasure. The link to the files has been changed. Go a head and click on it
Here it is...

Hat tip: Engineer

;o)

163 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:15:22pm

Kerry's Naval Records:

[Link: www.johnkerry.com...]

164 applesweet  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:17:09pm

Maybe this group has a true yen for pain. I wonder if they can afford a lawyer. They probably will need more than one. Stupid idiots!

165 tum  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:20:51pm

In other words: "You are facists so we will shut you up by any means necessary."

ROFL. The irony, the irony. It's the 60s all over again.

166 han_solo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:25:30pm

Interesting that nyc.indymedia.org is owned by a university... time to call them and tell them the FBI has been notified of illegal behavior to their site:

# whois nyc.indymedia.org

OrgName: University of Washington
OrgID: UWND
Address: 4545 15th Ave NE
City: Seattle
StateProv: WA
PostalCode: 98105
Country: US

NetRange: 128.95.0.0 - 128.95.255.255
CIDR: 128.95.0.0/16
NetName: WASHINGTON
NetHandle: NET-128-95-0-0-1
Parent: NET-128-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: HANNA.CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU
NameServer: MARGE.CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU
NameServer: NS.UNET.UMN.EDU
Comment:
RegDate: 1986-01-13
Updated: 2000-03-14

TechHandle: OWU2-ARIN
TechName: University, Of Washington
TechPhone: +1-206-543-5128
TechEmail: noc@cac.washington.edu

OrgAbuseHandle: UWSO-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: University of Washington Security Operations
OrgAbusePhone: +1-206-221-7000
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@cac.washington.edu

OrgTechHandle: OWU2-ARIN
OrgTechName: University, Of Washington
OrgTechPhone: +1-206-543-5128
OrgTechEmail: noc@cac.washington.edu


A few emails and calls to those addresses would be good too.

Maybe a call tomorrow morning first thing to the dean and school president office would be warrented.

167 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:31:39pm

-=@$$=-:

Get the URL of the sender (joeblow.net) and the domain is the ".net" part.

Go to Google or a search engine and type in WHOIS.

WHOIS.net will come up and fill in the blanks. There are few different WHOIS addresses on the Google page. Since I've never had to do this myself, Charles, can you help Justin use the best one? I'd guess you just fill in the blanks and wait for them to get back to you with the information.

Once you get it then you have to contact the service provider for that domain and tell them what their client has done.

If I've missed a step, folks, fill Justin in on anything else he has to do.

168 Asher Abrams  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:35:06pm

I just paid a visit to the indymedia homepage


... couldn't decide whether I wanted to read it in English or German.

169 rw  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:37:41pm

#166 han_solo 8/22/2004 09:25PM PST

I think that indymedia owns the domain and the UW owns the IP address hosting it.

170 Asher Abrams  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:42:21pm

BTW, I see Jane has the latest on some more e-warfare. Looks like Zarqawi was on the receiving end ... heh ...

171 Prince of Leaves  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:42:54pm

Slightly OT (still involves loony .orgs, though) -- anyone seen this site: occupationwatch.org?

It's the usual quagmirist handwringing, with the latest cherrypicked news on how wrongly the occupation is going today...they even link (approvingly) to Fisk on the front page, calling him "prescient" even.

The links page is a case-study in selective sourcing to buttress one's a priori conclusions (e.g.: the Iraqi "blogroll").

172 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:44:52pm

-=@$$=-:

Have you got the address handy or is that what the above posts are about? Did I miss something?

Whoever wanted Kerry's Naval Records--did you get them. I posted them above.

I seem to be doing three things at once here.

173 Aaron's Rantblog  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:47:05pm

This "digital brownshirt" has a plan.

174 Prince of Leaves  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:50:43pm

#158: "...'Socialism WOW!' (the exclamation point mandatory)..."

Stinky: The Angry Douglas Coupland!

Heh.

175 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:52:35pm

#159 applesweet

Reading that, I feel that they are anarchists of the worst kind. I would not feel safe, to be honest, going anywhere near NYC for the next few weeks. Seeing the names and info on the delegates is chilling.

In all honesty, I wish they would declare a state of martial law here, and not allow any demos at all.

Right now I am really scared, as my only daughter is going to demonstrate with LLL's, but not these anarchist bastards, and I am hoping my son in law will step in and try and stop her. I sent her all the sites that Charles and others posted, and only pray they will make an impression...I cannot send a 38 year old married woman to her room...all I can do is keep praying that sanity will prevail. These anarchists are a menace, and in a country that is in a war, they should be dealt with as enemies of the state, and put in prison.

Washington State? The State of US Sen. Patsy Murray? They are raving LLL's of the worst kind, and unless the FBI can shut these bastrards down, watch the university and the al aclu scream bloody infringement of their freedom of speech...

176 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:54:06pm

#173 Aaron's Rantblog:

LUV the hat!

177 rw  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:54:31pm

Here's the contact list for U of WA Computing and Communications.

Questions, reports or other communications regarding financial irregularities or other related illegal acts should be directed to the Department of Internal Audit:

Phone: 206–543–4028 or 206–543–4998
Campus mail: Box 354861
Email: iaudit@u.washington.edu
If there is a concern over recovery of assets or protection of vital records after normal business hours, contact the University Police:

Phone: 206–543–9331 (voice) or 206–543–3323 (TTY)
Campus mail: Box 355200
Email: police@u.washington.edu

178 ballantrae  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:54:32pm

Waitaminute. How can we be the digital brownshirts, if they are the ones trying to shut us down?

What's that? Oh, oh I forgot, thanks.

Liberal Loony Logic

-ron

179 Professor Kaos  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:55:38pm
OrgAbusePhone: +1-206-221-7000

I just called, the lines are open. What are you waiting for?

180 han_solo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:57:26pm

Time to call the university presidents office and inform them they have a whole bunch of websites promoting illegal cyber-terrorist activity being run on their campus network..maybe suggest that a press release is going be sent out to the media about how a radical fringe group tied to their UNIV has been caught advocating and "DOCUMENTED" performing cyber criminal activitie such as identity theft, terroristic threats, posting of stolen confidential data, hacking and breaking into provide accounts etc.:


# whois arizona.indymedia.org resolved to 128.2.97.171
# whois cleaveland.indymedia.org resolved to 128.2.97.171
# whois twincities.indymedia.org resolved to 128.2.97.171
# whois neworleans.indymedia.org resolved to 128.2.97.177
# whois pittsburgh.indymedia.org resolved to 128.2.97.177
# whois richmond.indymedia.org resolved to 128.2.97.171
# whois santacruz.indymedia.org resolved to 128.2.97.171


OrgName: Carnegie Mellon University
OrgID: CARNEG
Address: Computing Services
Address: 5000 Forbes Avenue
City: Pittsburgh
StateProv: PA
PostalCode: 15213
Country: US

NetRange: 128.2.0.0 - 128.2.255.255
CIDR: 128.2.0.0/16
NetName: CMU-NET
NetHandle: NET-128-2-0-0-1
Parent: NET-128-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: T-NS1.NET.CMU.EDU
NameServer: T-NS2.NET.CMU.EDU
NameServer: CABBAGE.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 2004-06-10

TechHandle: CH4-ORG-ARIN
TechName: Carnegie Mellon Hostmaster
TechPhone: +1-412-268-2638
TechEmail: host-master@andrew.cmu.edu

OrgAbuseHandle: CMA3-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Carnegie Mellon Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-412-268-4357
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@andrew.cmu.edu

OrgTechHandle: CH4-ORG-ARIN
OrgTechName: Carnegie Mellon Hostmaster
OrgTechPhone: +1-412-268-2638
OrgTechEmail: host-master@andrew.cmu.edu


#whois chapelhill.indymedia.org resolved to 152.2.210.81

OrgName: University of North Carolina
OrgID: UNC-1
Address: CB# 1405 Phillips Hall
City: Chapel Hill
StateProv: NC
PostalCode: 27599
Country: US

NetRange: 152.2.0.0 - 152.2.255.255
CIDR: 152.2.0.0/16
NetName: UNCCH-NET
NetHandle: NET-152-2-0-0-1
Parent: NET-152-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS.UNC.EDU
NameServer: NS2.UNC.EDU
Comment:
RegDate: 1991-06-07
Updated: 2001-04-23

TechHandle: ZU52-ARIN
TechName: University of North Carolina
TechPhone: +1-919-962-1621
TechEmail: host-reg@unc.edu


#whois nyc.indymedia.org resolved to 128.95.76.170

OrgName: University of Washington
OrgID: UWND
Address: 4545 15th Ave NE
City: Seattle
StateProv: WA
PostalCode: 98105
Country: US

NetRange: 128.95.0.0 - 128.95.255.255
CIDR: 128.95.0.0/16
NetName: WASHINGTON
NetHandle: NET-128-95-0-0-1
Parent: NET-128-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: HANNA.CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU
NameServer: MARGE.CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU
NameServer: NS.UNET.UMN.EDU
Comment:
RegDate: 1986-01-13
Updated: 2000-03-14

TechHandle: OWU2-ARIN
TechName: University, Of Washington
TechPhone: +1-206-543-5128
TechEmail: noc@cac.washington.edu

OrgAbuseHandle: UWSO-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: University of Washington Security Operations
OrgAbusePhone: +1-206-221-7000
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@cac.washington.edu

OrgTechHandle: OWU2-ARIN
OrgTechName: University, Of Washington
OrgTechPhone: +1-206-543-5128
OrgTechEmail: noc@cac.washington.edu

181 han_solo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:57:45pm

One More:


# whois sandiego.indymedia.org resolved to 132.239.126.17

OrgName: University of California, San Diego
OrgID: UCSD-1
Address: UCSD Mail Code C-010
City: La Jolla
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 92093-0210
Country: US

NetRange: 132.239.0.0 - 132.239.255.255
CIDR: 132.239.0.0/16
NetName: UCSD-SUBNETS
NetHandle: NET-132-239-0-0-1
Parent: NET-132-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS1.NOSC.MIL
NameServer: NS1.UCSD.EDU
NameServer: NS2.UCSD.EDU
Comment:
RegDate: 1989-03-27
Updated: 2002-10-24

TechHandle: BK29-ARIN
TechName: Kantor, Brian
TechPhone: +1-858-434-6865
TechEmail: brian@ucsd.edm

182 john blake  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 7:59:07pm

I checked for my e;mail address earlier and was also left off the list. Just went to indy site to check again and commies for kerry have eaten up about half of the comments. heh

183 -=@$$=-  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:00:32pm

the rncdelegates site should be up on it's own. it's the thing that was on the dc indymedia and the list that were published before. it's the source.

184 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:04:07pm

-=@$$=-:

Are you getting all this?

Y'know this might end up being a blessing in disguise and be the straw that brings Indymedia down all over.

Any thoughts, folks?

Once we inform the ISPs of all the Indymedia groups, what about we coordinate with Charles sending a letter to the media in various cities talking about the 'anarchist threat' operating out of various universities and without whining, what they are doing and threatening. We can do a few drafts before sending it.

Wouldn't you just know, though, that Seattle would be the seat of anarchy. What is it--something in the climate out there? Has all that pulp mill pollution created a race of mutant morlocks?

185 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:09:15pm

freddy the rat perishes
By Don Marquis, in "archy and mehitabel," 1927
[the Tarantula reminds me of All-Sodder]

listen to me there have
been some doings here since last
i wrote there has been a battle
behind that rusty typewriter cover
in the corner
you remember freddy the rat well
freddy is no more but
he died game the other
day a stranger with a lot of
legs came into our
little circle a tough looking kid
he was with a bad eye

who are you said a thousand legs
if i bite you once
said the stranger you won t ask
again he he little poison tongue said
the thousand legs who gave you hydrophobia
i got it by biting myself said
the stranger i m bad keep away
from me where i step a weed dies
if i was to walk on your forehead it would
raise measles and if
you give me any lip i ll do it

they mixed it then
and the thousand legs succumbed
well we found out this fellow
was a tarantula he had come up from
south america in a bunch of bananas
for days he bossed us life
was not worth living he would stand in
the middle of the floor and taunt
us ha ha he would say where i
step a weed dies do
you want any of my game i was
raised on red pepper and blood i am
so hot if you scratch me i will light
like a match you better
dodge me when i m feeling mean and
i don t feel any other way i was nursed
on a tabasco bottle if i was to slap
your wrist in kindness you
would boil over like job and heaven
help you if i get angry give me
room i feel a wicked spell coming on

last night he made a break at freddy
the rat keep your distance
little one said freddy i m not
feeling well myself somebody poisoned some
cheese for me im as full of
death as a drug store i
feel that i am going to die anyhow
come on little torpedo don t stop
to visit and search then they
went at it and both are no more please
throw a late edition on the floor i want to
keep up with china we dropped freddy
off the fire escape into the alley with
full military honors

archy

186 han_solo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:14:54pm

I emailed the office of the mayor of ny as well as the police chief of ny office about these links:

Mr Mayor... I know you are working very hard on the issue of security for the upcoming republican convention that the greatest city in the country is hosting, but there is some activity you should be aware of and pass along to the police commisioner.

There has been a growing group of "anti-protesters" formed by some good hearted republicans who call themselves the "protest-warriors". Their website is [Link: www.protestwarrior.com...] to verify their peaceful intentions.

Recently one of the larger radical groups that will be in the groups most likely to cause trouble "hacked" this groups website and obtained all the personal information for every member of the protestwarrior group.

They also obtained what hotels they are staying at etc. They have started to circulate this data and make personal threats.

The FBI has been contacted, but this could be violent if they go to far. Here is some information about their plans and how far many of them are willing to go:
[Link: nyc.indymedia.org...]


Thanks!
*sent a similar email to the nyc police commish.

187 argentblue  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:17:42pm

I'm in Seattle, and I'm mad as hell about indymedia being hosted on the UW servers. I've already emailed the UCIRO at the UW. Keep the pressure on...there should be calls into the Seattle Times, P-I (not that it'll help much) and the local stations.

188 Elizabeth B  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:18:54pm

#184. I grew up in Seattle. It used to be more normal, although the Seattle area has always leaned left. I left in 1987, and when I came back to visit my folks it seemed about the same at first, then, I can't remember exactly when, the coffee craze hit. I think it coincided with the influx of LLLs from California.

So, too much Java and too many Californians is what happened to Seattle.

189 han_solo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:19:47pm

Next thing to do is to shoot off some emails to some radio hosts like rush, hannity, hewitt... and some local nyc talk and news guys too and inform them of this activity and be prepared for this group to get violent.

190 extrabob  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:24:41pm

I'm old enough to remember the 1968 Democratic Convention and the violent protests that occured then (the whole world is watching!). It was ugly, but those protesters in 1968 were rank amateurs compared to the tactics the demonstrators are planning for NYC next week. I fear that there is going to be another bloody civil war in this country someday soon to root out the enemy within. Fortunately for us, it will be like shooting fish in a barrel, since the hardcore leftists all hate guns, don't own them or know how to use them. Bring it on!

191 vickie  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:43:27pm

Geeze Charles: What BASTARDS...You need to what? call the Police (who deals with this?) of some kind? They have no right to do this to you. You are to the rightISH on some issues...but MAINSTREAM in the "main".

Wanna use my BIG MOUTH ...in Defense of YOUR and This Place? Be happly to oblige in ANY way. DAMN...Better dare NOT to touch this place.

You have a right to be ON the side YOU CHOSE. THIS IS AMERICA...G--Dammit...

I CAN slice and dice pretty dang good IF I think someone is being wronged... YOU would be WRONGED if anything happened to this site.

---
LITTLE NOTICE TO WHOEVER: I take it rather personally and SERIOUSLY IF the entitiy that is trying to shut down Charles and LGFs, shuts down MY Freedom of Speech RIGHTS... OR...IF...(you had SO better not) I find ANY of my personal information ANYWHERE ...I...DIDNT...PUT IT...and without MY PERMISSION...OOO..It might Not Be Much OF GOOD IDEA to do that. I get kind of angry at this type of behavior...and you REALLY dont want to see it... DO IT and see what happens!!!

192 rw  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 8:55:06pm

quanyin.apl.washington.edu/ and 128.95.76.170 both seem to be down now. Is anyone able to get nyc.indymedia at those url's?

193 adamthemadman  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:09:29pm

Um, Elizabeth, some of us are Californians, including Charles. So, um, well, you might want to take that NW 'tude and shove it where the rain don't fall.

Nothing personal, it seems that NW'ers spend an awful lot of time complaining about Californians. Is it really that boring up there, or is this some kind of inferiority complex?

It's almost as bad as Canadians complaining about America.

just kidding...kind of.

194 Alex D.  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:18:09pm

"Instafascist"

Heh. Goes to show you what morons we're dealing with here. Glenn had a post mentioning the "Right-wing assault machine."

195 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:18:35pm

#192 rw

They are down here, too. I only hope that the Government, ie FBI, and that the White House is working on it. These anarchists belong in prison.

So this is what the universities are teaching? G-d help my kids and grandkids.

G'nite. It will be interesting to see what happens to them. The release of personal info is frightening. And to think that thereeeza helps to fund them...what will it take to wake the LLL's up before the election???

There were no such acts of this sort of internet subversion before the dhummicrats' alleged convention...

FLUSH THE JOHNS!!!

196 han_solo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:31:20pm

#192 rw

Looks like they are trying to move some stuff... I guess they are scared we are onto them..

nyc.indymedia.org DNS hs moved to 216.218.240.191.


Looks like we have caused them to make some DNS changes.

197 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:34:09pm

Before I go back through the comments, I'm wondering if anyone knows when they'll be sending us our brown-shirts and if they have the official LGF logo?

I"m not going to stand for this crap if they think I'm going to settle for some 'digital junk.' 98% of these dysfunctional jerks can't hold a job long enough to keep a penny in their pocket and then around talking about a fuking revolution. Engles and Marx wouldn't waste a drop of urine on their legs if they knew who were representing them these days!

Matter-of-fact - I'm so riled - we're coming through your doors in 15 minutes(give or take, depending on your time zone). So walk outside with your hands up and your pants around ankles, give yourselves up...NOW!


/(the preceding was brought to you by, 'Paranoia for Bi-polars' guaranteed to work for 5 weeks or your money back. Contact your local LGF distributor for an instant rebate.)

198 Birkel  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:36:26pm

As for Post #99,
The recipe forgot to have Kerry apply for a Purple Heart after burning himself on the stove. He heard Turr-a-za coming from the fifth bedroom on the third floor of their 5th house and thought it was incoming so he technically deserves one.
Flashback and all...

199 Lewis  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:38:33pm

#193 adamthemadman

Nothing personal, it seems that NW'ers spend an awful lot of time complaining about Californians.

Ummm, doesn't everyone complain about Californians?

/East Coast, representin' ;-)

200 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:55:04pm

I've notified the Chairman of the RNC that their addresses have been posted by Indymedia with the links. I don't know what else we can do. It's up to them how to deal with it now. I've also notified the ISP that their server has been breached.

201 han_solo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:56:17pm

Here is the personal info of the guy who setup the nyc.indymedia.org server and all the rest of them on that system at Carnagie Mellon Univ This is the person we should name as the trouble maker when calling the university presidents and deans office.

Domain ID:D85353836-LROR
Domain Name:INDYPGH.ORG
Created On:08-Apr-2002 01:38:53 UTC
Last Updated On:07-Apr-2004 08:20:08 UTC
Expiration Date:08-Apr-2005 01:38:53 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R25-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:CORG-36572
Registrant Name:Michael Hellein
Registrant Street1:39 West 14th Street
Registrant Street2:Suite 204
Registrant City:New York
Registrant State/Province:NY
Registrant Postal Code:10011
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+212.3677333
Registrant Email:robot@spiderking.com
Admin ID:CORG-49402
Admin Name:Michael Hellein
Admin Organization:Spiderking
Admin Street1:4901 Friendship Avenue
Admin City:Pittsburgh
Admin State/Province:PA
Admin Postal Code:15224
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+412.3616961
Admin Email:robot@spiderking.com
Tech ID:CORG-61804
Tech Name:Matt Toups
Tech Organization:Pittsburgh Independent Media Center
Tech Street1:209 South Neville St.
Tech City:Pittsburgh
Tech State/Province:PA
Tech Postal Code:15213
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+412.6814156
Tech Email:mtoups@andrew.cmu.edu
Name Server:KRYPTON.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
Name Server:ARGON.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
Name Server:NS1.SECONDARY.COM
Name Server:NS2.SECONDARY.COM


He has a "business" website here:
[Link: spiderking.com...]


He has a "personal" website here at school(which talks about going to NYC):
[Link: www.andrew.cmu.edu...]
"get off the internet ... i'll see you in the STREETS"


He is a senior at the School of Computer Science:
[Link: people.cs.cmu.edu...]


He was against the war before it even started had began protesting on campus against any kind of retalliation for 9/11 only 6 days later (search for "Rally for Peace"):
[Link: www.cmu.edu:8001...]

He is associated with the "People for Workers' Rights" (he took these pictures)
[Link: pittsburgh.indymedia.org...]

202 han_solo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 9:59:26pm

Looks like they are monitoring us...monitoring them:


[Link: lists.indymedia.org...]


[IMC-Tech] imc-nyc ddos plan
Pabs pabs at cat.org.au
Sun Aug 22 23:35:58 PDT 2004

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Hias,

Someone noticed something on irc:
"so judging by massive thread spawned off on little green footballs, it
appears that LGF / protestwarrior will be planning a ddos of the imc
servers"
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

--
Bye,
Pabs

203 Mus Zibii  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 10:01:14pm

Hey, my name wasn't on that list. No wonder I haven't been getting a newsletter. Thanks a lot Protest Warrior. LOL I wanted to be able to brag about being targetted by the tuney loons. I'm as much of a neo-con, brownshirt, member of the vast right wing conspiracy of unilateral action as the next guy, damn it. I'm a Zionist, too. Oooo, booga-booga.

204 Spiny Norman  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 10:02:36pm
"...it appears that LGF / protestwarrior will be planning a ddos of the imc servers"

We are? I seemed to have missed that somewhere upthread...

Whiny little pissants.

205 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 10:08:56pm
206 han_solo  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 10:11:20pm

#204 Spiny Norman


No... we have 1000x more class than they do.


They are the ones that openly endorse that sort of behavior not us.

I would not support ANYONE doing anything like to their systems.

That sort of stuff is childish and for amatures.

We prefer doing things like talking to the people who they freeload network bandwith off of and let them know what sort of behavior they are spreading on their campus...

..that and and call our neocon facist big-oil all-powerfull all-knowing facist-state controlling friends to have them send some secret black helocopters to follow them wherever they go (that sure to get them all worked up in a froth). .

207 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 10:17:38pm

#201 han_solo:

Good work! I can do something with those links. BTW, I think we have to figure a way to communicate without the Indymedia crowd reading our posts on this subject. Ideas?

208 Spiny Norman  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 10:45:02pm

#206 han_solo

call our neocon facist big-oil all-powerfull all-knowing facist-state controlling friends

Those are nice friends to have. Heheh. There are also benefits to being members of the International Zionist Conspiracy™, too.

;^)

209 ronnie schreiber  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 10:46:14pm

Of course, anarchists aren't the only ones who can use the Indymedia sites to put information into circulation.

If the Indy sites allow large posts, someone could even anonymously republish Kerry's book, New Soldier, that he's been trying to supress ever since he first ran for office because it makes him look anti-American. Kerry still controls the copyright and refuses to allow anyone to republish the book.

OTOH, perhaps a consortium of bloggers could get around the copyright by having each individual blogger post the largest excerpt allowed under fair use statutes and then set up a page with links to all the excerpts.

210 One of These Days...  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 10:49:01pm

This is fukking ridiculous. It's to be expected. These are the same clowns who are going 'to shut down the RNC convention in NYC!' that ain't gonna do shit when they see a NYC cop that has dealt with hookers tougher than thirty of these pussies put together. Charles, if you want, you can tell them you are staying with me. Give my address if you want. I am sufficiently armed, and I don't need allah (cum on his face) to guide MY bullets, I'm good enough.

Nice work on all who are finding these sources. Expose these clowns, and shut them down. SEE YA QUASI-MEDIA!

211 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 10:58:29pm
212 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 11:14:38pm

#211 Rayra:

Ya, it looks that way, doesn't it. Your tax dollars at work again, providing equipment for the anarchist and Indymedia morlocks to undermine our government. Feh!

Anyway, it's now 4:11 a.m. est here and I need to catch some zzzs but I have alerted the Chairman of the RNC and given him/her ALL the information necessary to track down not only the guy responsible but some of the Indymedia crowd as well. I recommended they call in the Feebs but it's up to them, I guess how they handle it. I gave my address and phone number and Charles' email and a link to the thread of han_solo where he lists the info on 'the guy'. I don't want to be more specific because they're reading our mail. Let them sweat a little.

The next few days should be interesting.

Okay, I'm off to bed. Have to get up again in about four hours so TTFN.

213 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 11:28:49pm
214 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 11:32:08pm
215 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 11:38:41pm
216 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 11:42:24pm
217 Mashiki  Sun, Aug 22, 2004 11:57:31pm

Good Moring all,

Well what a day huh? I'm off to buzz around the lower parts of Ontario, but the paranoia at IMC is apparent by that quote given by Han_Solo(#202).

Apparently in their world WHOIS records=DOS. Wow.

Catch you all later.

218 JAPAM  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 12:17:40am

This just shows that Charles is winning and really pissing these little kids off.

219 leo (dissident view from Berlin)  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 12:21:07am

indymedia will never be able to explain why the real dgital brownshirts are on their side.

220 foreign devil  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 12:36:10am

I'm back--couldn't sleep--too much adrenaline.

These aren't 'little kids'. These are grown men and women. The one guy is a Senior a Carnegie Mellon U. Probably teaches your kids computer skills and moonlights as a morlock anarchist and uses Carnegie Mellon U's computer to hack the RNC Address list and places like Protest Warrior. BTW, your tax dollars pay for that equipment and Thereeeyyzzas Tides Foundation pays for the rest.

It's okay though; I've notified both the Chairman (Ed Gillespie--a no-nonsense kinda guy and the General Counsel for the RNC and given them the pertinent links and WHOIS info plus links to our LGF posts where the information is listed. I advised they have the FBI or their security check it out ASAP because it's illegal to list that and I'm sure their delegates don't want their addresses on the net.

It's in the hands of the g*ds now unless someone has some better ideas.

Thanks Rayra for those last WHOIS records. I alerted the General Counsel's office that the Indymedia site was moving its server to a linefeed.org site and so now we wait for the fur to fly. OOOooo I'm so BAAAaaad I just can't stand it!

221 McBain  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 1:31:14am

Y'all think it's safe to make purchases from the PW site online, or is that info subject to compromise also?

I'm just being extra cautious because one of my credit card accounts was hijacked recently (avoid Fleet Bank, now BoA- nightmarishly incompetent handling of the matter), and I'd rather not go through all of the hassle again.

And if anyone passes through North Carolina in the near future, stop by 785 Fox Lair Trail, Semora, NC 27343 and tell 'em I want the stuff that they ordered...

222 octopus  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 2:04:49am

I took the liberty of ordering another t-shirt from Protest Warriors this morning, after reading about this sorry state of affairs. Well, I guess it was nice of Hellein to prove once again who the real fascists/thought police are, as if we didn't already know. The only thing that bothers me, is if anyone gets hurt because of the idiotic a-hole responsible for hacking that great, hilarious site. Unfortunately, there really are homicidal maniacs running around, who get caught up in these underground movements, and take it to the point of violence. I used to have a friend who got caught up in the "Michigan Militia," back in the halcyon days of "black helicopters" and the New World Order, which came to include survivalist weekends, stockpiling of ammo and MRE's, and lots of stooped littercher about avenging Waco and so forth. Bumper sticker: "I love my country, but fear my government." The movement was already dying, by the time McVeigh/Nichols pulled off that Last Great Act Of Dumbth, which put the last nail in the coffin of the Michigan Militia, as founder Norm Olson, Jackass Emeritus, headed off to Alaska to "join the Alaskan Independence Movement." [Link: www.detnews.com...]
Hopefully, he's been eaten by a grizzly bear, by now.

223 beblebrox  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 2:14:21am

Yet another rich kid who resents his parents achievements which enable him to get a high quality education. For what it's worth here is what the little whiners parents at CMU have to come up with to pay for their spoiled little kids to bitch:

Undergraduate Students Who Entered Fall 2003
Per-Unit Tuition Rate - $426
Resident Commuter Off-Campus
Tuition $30,650
Orientation Fee - - -
Activity Fee 160
Port Authority Fee 76
Technology Fee 150
Room & Fees 49641
Dining 3590
Books & Supplies 910
Personal/Misc. 1280
Transporation variable 560 variable

Totals $41,4705

My my, it's getting pretty expensive to be an anarchist these days...

224 Sean II  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 2:14:52am

Who is the real Brownshirts? Their idea of free speech is "I do not like your message so I am going to shut you up!". Pathetic, hippy freaks...

225 Frank IBC  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 2:19:02am

OrgName: Carnegie Mellon University
Address: 5000 Forbes Avenue

As in John Forbes Kerry...

226 Amos (Zionist Minion)  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 2:51:20am

Charles, you are at the head of the list, even before Instapundit! I say that's a signal honor!

You are most hated by the dark, for shining light on things they would prefer silenced forever.

227 centaur  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 2:59:26am

Amazing.

Some rich kid at a university whose surroundings are all bought and paid for (by virtue the evil capitalist system) sits around and plays on line, calls himself an anarchist and those who he attempts to shut up and "shut-down", "digital brownshirts."

The layers of irony -- of pure contradiction -- are just too deep here. What a fantasy-land this idiot has in his head. And what a severe case of projectionism. What a fucking maroon. What a total fucking maroon.

228 Owl  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 3:30:50am

Is this a hoax? Or did I just miss it( more likely)?


I just clicked on over, and it looks good as new - they get it fixed already?

Owl


( PS - this is utter stupidity by someone - you don't want to start a war with us, leftists, trust me on that one...)

229 DP111  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 3:34:19am

Charles:

The Islamists launched us into a war for the defence of Freedom. What is distressing is that so many, supposedly on our side, have crossed over to the enemy ie those who wish to destroy freedom.

So Charles, when these people threaten you, though it is distressing, it should give you immense satisfaction, that you are hurting them, and hurting them real good. LGF has opened a window that looks into the Looking glass world of Islam and the Left, where good is evil, right is wrong, the endemic mysogyny of Islam is freedom etc. It is not surprising that Islamists and the Left hate you.

We should never forget though, that the main enemy is still Islam. The Lefts ideology, Marxism is dead and as a consequence the Left is hanging onto Islam. Islam though is still an ongoing fascist ideology. Muslims are happy at the moment to sit and wait while the Left and Right slug it out. They hope to pick up, when both the above protagonists have wearied themselves.

American Infidel

Good work. I'm doing the same.

Take note LGFers. This war is to obliterate our freedoms. It is a war against Freedom itself. In this war, there are no bystanders. This is not a war that can be won by our military. The main war is here, in our towns, cities and neighbourhoods, and even within our home. It is a war for the defence of Freedom and against those who wish to expunge it , ie Islamists and their tools, dupes and those, such as the Left, who think that they are using Muslims as tools.

This is our war, a peoples war, like no other war before it. It is an argument, and can only be won by education of the general populace. This is what I have continuously said for over two years.

Educate, Inform and Liberate.

230 FloridaHeat  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 3:56:17am

One of the biggest mistakes we can make is to underestimate the enemy. These people are not kids, morons, or sexually deprived. They are adults who are very knowledgable about the systems and tools of internet architecture, and they are so against the democratic process and free speech that they are attempting to disrupt a presidential election and pointing their followers to denial of service and hacking tools and a list of political, governmental, military and civilian targets.

This is the new battlefield, folks. We are proof positive that the pen is mightier than the sword - or in more modern terms, our keyboards and this internet insure our freedom. We CAN speak out, we CAN expose lies, we ARE turning the minds of intelligent people - and I believe most people are intelligent - one by one.

So, from their point of view, we need to be shut up.

The weapons they will use are far more sophisticated than most on these boards are aware, and due to the compatibly imbecilic way both microsoft and the internet are constructed, the technical advantages are mostly on the side of the attackers. That's the bad news. The good news is, despite what they say, the activities Indymedia is promoting will not be seen by the law as civil cyber disobedience. Hacking and ddos attacks are illegal, and carry very heavy fines, if not jail time. I will leave it up to the courts to decide what punishment is fitting for those who incite others to disrupt elections and attack government and military property.

231 maryatexitzero  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:02:30am

I thought the rabid pacifists would wait until AFTER the convention started before doing something this stupid. I guess they couldn't wait.

Drudge, Fox, the WSJ and Limbaugh could make a very big deal about this one - especially with the Gore-inspired 'digital brownshirt' comment.

232 FloridaHeat  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:04:47am

#229 DP111

Take note LGFers. This war is to obliterate our freedoms. It is a war against Freedom itself. In this war, there are no bystanders. This is not a war that can be won by our military. The main war is here, in our towns, cities and neighbourhoods, and even within our home. It is a war for the defence of Freedom and against those who wish to expunge it , ie Islamists and their tools, dupes and those, such as the Left, who think that they are using Muslims as tools.

Very well said.

233 Stefania  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:11:20am

It is a terror site.

234 Doctor Phibes  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:21:11am
235 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:22:10am

I am pretty happy to see that the redfascists call to the final battle: they are evidently out of their minds and they start showing their true stalinofascist face.

GOOD.

It's in fact time to clean the campuses and the media from these commies payed by the muslim countries to subvert our freedom, so it is much better if they show their real face.

236 IowaInfidel  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:23:21am

Wow, this is incredible. I thought that in the U.S. there was free speech. They want to prevent debate? Maybe a one party system is what they're looking for?

Hail comrades, welcome the return of the socialist state!

/sarcasm

237 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:25:23am

Excuse me, but the real digital brown shirts are the stompers of free speech at nazimedia.

I have said.

238 Sarah D.  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:28:21am

I didn't see this out there yesterday:

On IndyMedia NYC

You made the rules. You play by the rules. Don't let me hear you cry "foul" "not fair" "illegal". May the game begin, and for you gun totin' Rednecks out there... "Gentelmen, START YOUR ENGINES!!!"

LOL!

239 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:28:47am

The would be an excellent question for GW to ask JO(hn) KE(rry).

"So Mr Kerry, do you support the children at many left-wing web sites who threaten to stomp out the free speech of those who are of an alternative ideology?"

240 Jayce  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:29:03am

I've been trying to read this post for about 2 hours now, but every few seconds some black popup called sleep.exe knocks me off line.

Can anyone who knows more about the computer than pushing that little silver belly-button on and reading the screen advise me?

Times running out. Bye!!!

241 Sarah D.  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:30:50am

ProtestWarrior launching denial of service attacks?

NYC-IMC attacked

242 craig1f  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:40:52am

This reminds me of the funny phrase ...

"Death to all fanatics!!!"

243 Doss  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:44:15am

To Morlocks, LLL, ...
Face it- the Presidency, Senate, House, and a majority of governorships are Republican and the media monopoly that you used to own is crumbling from the pounding of the blogosphere, talk radio, and Fox News. The gig is up.

244 Short Fat Corporal  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:45:43am

#241 Sarah D.

Let them reap what they hath sowed.

It's a shame that this guy didn't cover his tracks; unless he was a plant to begin with.

Considering IMC is "under a DOS attack", I'm not having too much of a problem cruising around in their filth.

IF a PW'r is going to do these things, for G*d's sake, don't be obvious about it.

245 craig1f  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:45:59am

The problem with these kids is that they've fallen to the most basic of propaganda. If you don't want to be seen as falling under a certain "type", accuse your opponent of being that "type."

In this case, they believe we're facists for having an opinion which is not theirs. It's because their side is so obviously right, how can we disagree? How can we be EVIL conservatives? They really believe we're hacking their machines, and silencing them. It justifies doing it in response.

The irony of the situation does, in fact sink in ... but they dismiss THAT as propaganda. The think that the whole idea is that we think they can't do anything to us, because it would be hypocritical, and that we're exploiting that.

And when the conservatives take the high road, they shrug it off as a political ploy .. for they KNOW THE TRUTH.

God I hate politics. I miss being young. Of course, when I was young, people my age could stay out of politics.

246 IowaGirl  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:46:11am

Whew! I couldn't sleep last night for wondering what LGF would be doing when I got up.

Relieved

247 Artisticulated  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:46:54am

Full text to "The New Soldier" hereIt's in 3 seperate PDFs. All pretty small. And the Blog looks pretty good too!

248 Dave the.....  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:47:33am

I've been off LGF since Friday afternoon and do I have some catching up to do.

The Mpls paper ran a horrible cartoon belittling the Swiftboat vets. It was very disgusting.

Local bloggers believe it originated from a Boston newspaper. Has anyone else seen it? We need a thread just on this cartoon. I'll look for it online later (I actually have to work today so have to go easy on LGF).

249 Boudewijn  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:49:08am

#240 Jayce


Sleep.exe sounds familiar. I had that same file attached in an e-mail that some1 send to me. I didn't open it and deleted the email. Don't open any attachments in your inbox if you don't now who send it to you! Especially if the attachment is an executable (.com .exe .bat).


For now you could try the following (i asume you're using windows): press CTRL+ALT+Delete. Wait for the task-manager to show up, click on Sleep.exe, Press the End Task button.
Good Luck!

250 Frank IBC  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:55:10am

Dave the...

Sounds like you're talking about Pat Oliphant's cartoon. Charles did an article on that Saturday.

251 Frank IBC  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:57:00am

Sarah D. -

Did Cathryn Cramer write that article?

252 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:57:29am

240 Jayce
To get rid of spy ware like that, go to [Link: www.adaware.com...] and download their latest spyware removal program for a start.
Others here can give you more info if that doesn't solve your problem.

253 Frank IBC  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:58:19am

John Kerry thought a "Denial of Service Attack" was something that happened in a snooty French restaurant.

254 Frank IBC  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:59:56am

FrankNH -

The AdAware program is great, except for the fact that it farts at me every time the search is completed.

255 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:00:58am
256 Sarah D.  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:03:33am

#251 Frank IBC

Which article?

257 Sarah D.  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:06:23am

#240 Jayce

I use this to scan my system for adware and spyware.

It doesn't take as long and doesn't use up your resources. Click on Start Scan, and you will have to give it permission to load. Don't let your system reboot until the scan is completed.

258 Frank IBC  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:06:31am

Dave The, Sarah D. -

The Oliphant-Rall Convergence, Saturday August 21.

259 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:09:52am

#254 Frank IBC
I didn't realize that program was connected to the DNC.
I guess you'll just have to hold your nose afer using it next time.

260 mad_scientist  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:15:24am

Wow, CMU is right up the street from where I work. And it is no surprise that this is happening there. Plenty of Moonbat activity comes out of that place...

261 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:15:53am

Has anybody seen the remarks about Kerry by Bob Dole?

"One day, he's saying that we were shooting civilians, cutting off their ears, cutting off their heads, throwing away his medals or his ribbons," Dole said. "The next day, he's standing there, 'I want to be president because I'm a Vietnam veteran,'" said Dole, whose World War II wounds left him without the use of his right arm. "Maybe he should apologize to all the other 2.5 million veterans who served. He wasn't the only one in Vietnam."
Dole added: "And here's, you know, a good guy, a good friend. I respect his record, but three Purple Hearts and never bled that I know of. I mean, they're all superficial wounds."


[Link: www.newsday.com...]

262 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:20:31am
263 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:21:46am

#45 Inkling

Thinks Janeane Garofalo would really dig him if they ever met.
REALLY sexually frustrated. Really.

He'd HAVE to be!

264 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:27:10am
265 beblebrox  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:29:03am

mad_scientist: sorry to hear about CMU's proximity to your workplace. I used to live on North Neville but common sense prevailed and I moved to the 'burbs.

266 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:31:03am

262 American Infidel
Here's an editorial in the Boston Glob (intentional misspelling) this morning, that is so one sided as to be laughable.
Big lies for Bush

Kerry, on the other hand, may have done more than Dole to qualify as a genuine war hero. Although his tour in Vietnam was short, on at least two occasions he acted decisively and with great daring in combat, saving at least one man's life and earning both a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. That's not our account or Kerry's; it is drawn from eyewitnesses and the military citations themselves.

[Link: www.boston.com...]

267 Frank IBC  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:35:40am

FrankNH -

I didn't realize that program was connected to the DNC.

Worse than that - AdAware is French. :)

Speaking of Janeane Garofalo, did she ever fulfill that promise of hers to crawl on her bare knees on glass?

268 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:43:58am
269 mad_scientist  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:44:02am

#265 beble


I live in the burbs too... in the Irwin area. The horrid 45 minute commute is a small price to pay for not living downtown.

270 Radian  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:44:53am

The minute my email or information hits the web something will happen. I think hacking is wrong, childish, and accomplishes nothing.

However I have spent a lot of time on intel and risc systems and know the cisco ios and can administer a firewall. There are plenty of people in other countries that will execute your exploit for money or for free if the hack is good enough. Mercenary attack no names no prosecution.

Any prick can choke a server with ddos or unpatched hacks. That crap if for little fucks.

There are ways to get root using network equipment, bypass firewalls, grab data and wipe data from disk, and tape if they are stupid enough to attach it to the machine or script the backup (just reverse it to kill). Wipe the config from their network equipment and kill and tftp image thay have laying around. Change the password and disable console access. Good noght gracie.

Find the name of the SA and kick his fucking ass.
Ala Jay and silent bob..

271 Artisticulated  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:49:43am

#255 American Infidel

I like your link better than mine, it has better formatting than the PDF and pictures! thanx

272 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:52:33am
273 applesweet  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 5:53:28am

#192

I just tried to access that url, and the connection was refused. The indymedia group in NYC is up though and they have posted all of the founders of PW's personal information. More veiled threats are being posted also.
I have saved a copy of the website and printed out a hard copy.

These people's attitude is a real piece of work.

274 TMF  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:00:12am

I did my part for the cause this morning.

Some jackoffs put a poster up on my street in Philly that says "Bush/Cheney '04- Steady leadership" with a big pic of Lyndie England holding that Iraqi by a leash.

Ha ha. Real fucking funny.

Ripped the fucker down.

They put it back up, it's comin' right back down.

275 Scott Parker  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:11:03am

#13 Asher Abrams

I think someone ripped off his name. Having been to "Dreams Into Lightning", it doesn't seem to me like a moonbat site.

276 Iron Fist[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:17:16am
277 applesweet  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:19:18am

If you don't have it, here's the link for NYC Indymedia.

[Link: nyc.indymedia.org...]

If a hard copy of the indymedia website as of this morning is needed, Charles has my email address.

In this groups belief the only freedom is theirs. No one of a discenting nature has the freedom to disagree.

278 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:19:23am

272 American Infidel
On Chris Lynch's site, he's drawn up a daily list of Kerry's missteps durning the month of August.
It's definitely worth a look see.
[Link: large-regular.blogspot.com...]
Be sure to read the August 12th entry.

279 vancomycin  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:20:43am

#276

no kidding. If the admin does his/her job, hacking a box would be a lot harder, plus they would bring it down as soon as they noticed that it was compromised... Bah.

280 Iron Fist[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:21:03am
281 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:29:16am

These gutless wonders talk a good game, and I'm sure they're also quite capable of posing a significant threat, but how many of them want to go up against the armed citizens of the American Right?

(Unless, of course, they just shoot us in the back...)

Creepy cowards.

282 stoj  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:30:27am

dc.indymedia link appears to be down:

Unknown ID Error
Database failed to return a unique record for this query, or you are not authorized to access that record.
283 Elizabeth B  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:33:56am

#193 adamthemadman

I like lots of individual Californians. One of our best friends lives in Pasadena, CA and works at JPL. We kid him about living in the Socialist Republic of California. Actually, though, Seattle isn't much better anymore. I'd complain about Seattlites if they started taking over other states, too.

But, it's very conservative in Alabama where we live now, even if it's very poor. We've lived in Albuquerque, NM, Little Rock, AR, San Antonio, TX, Germany, Montgomery, Alabama, and Dayton, Ohio over the last 12 years. The places where the people were the friendliest and most helpful were Little Rock and Montgomery. We may retire in the Pacific NW because our family is all there, but if we do, it'll probably be in more conservative Idaho.

284 JonB  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:34:46am

#278 FrankNH


272 American Infidel
On Chris Lynch's site, he's drawn up a daily list of Kerry's missteps durning the month of August.

Must be a huge list. :)

285 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:42:34am

284 JonB
Actually, he claims that he's only hitting the highlights.

Now there were many more things that I could have added in but I think you get the idea. Whoever is running the Kerry Campaign has no clue, no strategy and no control over the message that the campaign should be getting out. They pinned their hopes on presenting Kerry as a decorated war veteran and pretty much nothing else. That strategy is coming back to haunt them in a big way.
286 Kimberly  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:42:34am

TMF - I'm a member of the Philly PW and I got the email today from the insane hackers who think that it's okay to be fascist towards people who they consider to be, well, "fascist." No contradiction in shutting people down because you don't like their speech, then calling them "brownshirts," no indeed.

Idiots. If I see any poster like the one you described anywhere in Philly, I'll rip it down and bring it over to your house, and we can have a big bonfire, mmkay?

287 Radian  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:44:46am

280

Agree. Most hacks are based on admin screwups.

288 Cybrludite  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:47:26am

Yo, Indymedians! You left my e-mail address off your little list. cybrludite@yahoo.com You want a piece of me? Bring it!

Legal disclaimer: Spam gets filtered automatically. Since I've be using my e-mail on political blogs, you've already been signing me up on spam-bots. Threats will be forwarded to the FBI & the Louisiana State Police. You break into my place while I'm out, & the dog will gnaw your leg off. You break into my place while I'm in, and I'll shoot you to doll-rags. Then the dog will gnaw your leg off. Hassle me on the street & you'll learn that Louisiana is a "Must Issue" state. Have a nice day.
289 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 7:26:24am
290 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 7:32:35am
291 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 7:55:20am
292 azul93gt  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:01:11am

#158 Stinky 8/22/2004 09:06PM PST

Excellent albeit earthy post, You've captured my feelings about these idiots to a "T." Most of these leftie idiots would be subsistence farmers at best without the benefit of business, corporations, and capitalism. How have they been able to avoid having this explained to them all of their wretched lives?

293 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:08:37am
294 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:08:43am

#290 American Infidel
Actually that entire chapter is excerpted from "Unfit for Command", which starts on page 87, if you have the book yet. I was able to pick up the next to the last copy in my area the Monday morning the book came out.
If you haven't been able to pick it up, someone suggested that you try Sam's Club.
It's still listed as No. 1 on both Amazon and Barnes & Noble, as well as being sold out at most book stores.
Last I heard, the publisher has printed over half a million copies as well as offering to reprint Kerry's book, The New Soldier, if Kerry will give permission.
Fat chance of that, but it's already on line, and it's worth a look see.

295 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:11:52am

#293 American Infidel
I saw that confrontation between Williams and Hume and I thought I was going to die laughing.
Your description of Juan was perfect. Couldn't have put it better myself.

296 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:19:54am
297 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:22:02am
298 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:26:28am

Yes, I've already been there and read the prologue and epilogue.
I didn't bother reading the clips from the "supposed veterans. Not knowing which ones had been exposed as not having been in Nam or which ones had not even served in the military, I didn't want to waste my time.

I can't wait to see Hume and Williams tonight. I hope there's some more fireworks.

299 David Block  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:30:44am

Just like Nazimedia. Free speech for me, but not for thee. Hypocrites. What a bunch of loons.

300 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:31:28am
301 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:35:02am

#296 American Infidel
If you're really interested, I'd start by Googleing for "Winter Soldiers", FBI, investigation, exposed, and other term that you think would describe the expose.

302 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:36:13am
303 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:37:35am

American Infidel
You can start here
[Link: ice.he.net...]
It looks like they've got it pretty well covered.

304 Space Pirate  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:40:59am

BROWNSHIRTS are not my favorite color I would wear blue as in BLUESHIRTS.

Maybe this eagle should land on this terroristic moron as to say to this low life you can run but you can't hide so when I am behind you and tap on your shoulder will you run away in fear or will you be under my ANTI-UN blue jeans and my ANTI-UN black boots?

See you all later on the other computer.

By the way John Kerry if you sent this to us I PISS ON YOU and your catshit wife 2.

305 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:41:02am
306 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:48:27am

Here's a site that lists imposters of military personel.
[Link: www.pownetwork.org...]
It breaks them down into many different categories of what kind of affiliation they are claiming.

307 FrankNH  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:53:20am

305 American Infidel
No, although I'd love to, I'm stuck up here in NH.
I suspect that it's going to be huge and the MSM are going to have to cover it.
It'll just keep this issue in the forefront.
Kerry hopes this will just go away, but I don't see that happening.
He could just sue the SwiftVets for libel. O'Neill has already issued him that challenge.

308 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:55:57am
309 Space Pirate  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:58:04am

#35 mbruce
Lest anyone forget,and it may have been mentioned alreaddy,They're anti-gun vegetarians and the like.Those wussies can kiss my ass deep and long.worthless weak-tita the lot of them
***
I love to use my weapons to kill the meat I eat like deer, racoon, opossum, ram, etc...

The big question is would you adopt a Vegetarian. Eat more steak and remember the avocado ...

310 Portia  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:58:07am

My thirteen year old registered with Protest Warrior a couple of months ago (It was his birthday present to himself. He'd been waiting to be old enough.)

What should I tell him to do? Beyond where to forward the nasty email if he gets it?

Should I worry about someone disturbing him at school? (He listed his school.) Or am I being paranoid?

Exactly how much was hacked and what names did they get? All of them or only some? I've clicked on the links but can't get anything.

Does anyone else realize a lot of the PWs are kids? Or at least a significant number of them? And that kids are uniquely vulnerable?

311 applesweet  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 8:59:29am

An update.
I emailed the University of Washington this morning, and recieved a prompt answer. To which I resent added information requested.


This is what I recieved back and what I responded with.

Yes, the host is alive, but it is no longer the target for
'nyc.indymedia.org'.

Thanks.
--Bryan Egan---
Security Operations student employee -- Computing & Communications
PGP Public Key 0x82B06992 = [Link: staff.washington.edu...]

So, what is this?

> 128.95.76.170 (quanyin.apl.washington.edu) - host
> > alive, connection speed 73ms


> 128.95.76.170 (quanyin.apl.washington.edu) - host
> > alive, connection speed 73ms
> >
> --- Bryan Egan wrote:
>
> > The current DNS information does not contain any
> > reference to the
> > University. There is currently no traffic from
> > 'nyc.indymedia.org' to the
> > University of Washington.
> >
> > --Bryan Egan---
> > Security Operations student employee -- Computing &
> > Communications
> > PGP Public Key 0x82B06992 =
> > [Link: staff.washington.edu...]
> > Security Operations phone number : 206-221-7000
> >

312 TMF  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 9:00:15am

#286 Kimberly

It was about a block from the "Wooden Shoe anarchist collective " bookstore, (you might be familiar) near South St. so it should come as no surprise!

Those guys never met a brutal, third world dictator they didnt like!

I figure every little bit helps...

313 Asher Abrams  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 9:05:42am

275 / Scott Parker,

Sorry, that was my feeble attempt at irony. It IS true, though, isn't it, that the end may well be near for the REAL fascists, who are growing more desperate in their attempts to stifle free discussion ...

BTW, thanks for the hit and the vote of confidence!

314 applesweet  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 9:08:19am

I just emailed U of W again.
Refuting the sentencing sent. Indymedia was not targetting the university servers, it was being hosted by them. And I also informed him that all of the above information has been forwarded to the FBI.
Waiting for a response!
#310

You should have never allowed that much personal information on the internet. You will need to police and filter his email. If he recieves abuse via email, you can contact the ISP of each one he recieves.

315 doug2  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 9:16:24am

applesweet, I think you are mistaken about nyc.indymedia.org being at the UW, if you look at the DNS information:

nyc.indymedia.org A 216.82.161.253
nyc.indymedia.org A 209.133.53.10

neither of those are at the UW...?

316 han_solo  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 10:15:30am

#315 doug

Actually they did last night... as I documented in my posts above... go read them, many indymedia.org sites were hosted on a box called dega on the campus (see #180) by a senior in the CS department (see #201).

There were several sites hosts on that box somewhere on campus using their bandwith for nyc.indymedia.org, and lots others including twincities.indymedia.org and more.. (see above)

They apparently were monitoring this site and saw what we knew, and have started to move them to a different site overnight.

Here are the ones **still** running with stolen bandwith from the univ:
twincities.indymedia.org
richmond.indymedia.org
santacruz.indymedia.org

You can use these to show the people at the UNIV what was going on and how they are still running some on their network in their CS departments systems and were all setup by a senior student there named Michael Hellein.

If you just go to the ip address in your browser and dont use one of the virual indymedia.org names, you get a picture of the system:
[Link: 128.2.97.171...]

It almost looks like its in someones dorm room or in an office to me... maybe they should have their school computing privs suspended, I am sure they broke some regulations by hosting one of the most popular sites for indymedia.org (nyc) and using a ton of bandwith.


#314, this is the info you should be giving them.

317 doug2  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 10:35:07am

Doug, you appear to be talking about the CMU machine, not the UW machine...?

318 NuclearTinkerbell  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 10:37:13am

#316 han_solo
Great job. Thank you. So who is Matthew Toups?

319 Radian  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 11:09:18am

310

FBI and FCC as well as your local law enforcement would be happy to follow up on threats made to a minor.

Forward the email to them this will leave its headers intact.

I would close the account and re register with a hotmail account if you have not gotten anything to that account already.

320 Han_Solo  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 11:16:59am

#318 NuclearTinkerbell

> So who is Matthew Toups?

Apparently he is the one who setup the system at UW orginally that is using their network for commerical use without their permission.

It was hosting all sorts of indymedia.org sites until today (we published it), including the major site of nyc.indymedia.org.

Your taxes at work paying for radical left wing indymedia.org's bandwith and assist them in corrdindating illegal activites and planning violence in NYC.

He is just a looser CS student from what I can tell, I would be willing to bet we could get a search warrent for his dorm room or the office he works in the CS department and find that system.

See#201. All the various xxx.indymedia.org systems came back to that one last night which is running in the UW campus network.

321 Han_Solo  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 11:19:07am

Er.. you got me mixed up :)

I am talking about the systems at CMU, where they were all running as of last night.

322 NuclearTinkerbell  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 11:31:31am

Han_Solo
Here's what the twit does with his free time. Interesting.

323 Billy Hank  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 11:32:34am

Charles, Most Esteemed Host,

This is almost too obvious a suggestion, but I could really go for an LGF T-shirt in a dark chocolate brown. Coupled with a LGF logo, I can think of nothing more fetching, earth tones for the coming fall campaign. Might expand to a full line with khaki for a summer uniform.

One additional request, please include a Pocket T option. I need extra pockets. How about a sleeve pocket? Well, if you can't do that at least the chocolate one.

Digital Brownshirts.

324 piglet  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 11:35:18am

I would like an LGF trenchcoat, Matrix style.

325 doug2  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 11:50:41am

I dont really get what is going on here... the thread started pointing out a post on a nazimedia site, posted by an anonymous person, and now it seems to me (and don't get me wrong here), but indymedia is being conflated with someone who hacked a protestwarrior site? That doesn't make sense, if someone posted something here like "I hacked nazimedia!!!" would it be LGF's fault? I dont think indymedia hacked protestwarrior, some schmuck did and then bragged about it on indymedia. It would be a little different if indymedia was posting stuff on their front pages saying "Indymedia is please to announce it hacked this website", but they didn't... I dont like them any more than you do, but this seems to me a little bit like shooting the messenger and I'm a little dishearened to see people witch hunting.

326 Terp Mole  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 12:26:11pm
this seems to me a little bit like shooting the messenger and I'm a little dishearened to see people witch hunting.


Conversely, those with relevant information on potential co-conspirators in cyber-crime have an affirmative duty to co-operate with investigating authorities.

"Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
[18 USC section 4]

Tips and leads may be reported @ http://tips.fbi.gov/
Local FBI offices are @ http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm

327 lone star  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 12:34:16pm

325 Doug

this seems to me a little bit like shooting the messenger and I'm a little dishearened to see people witch hunting.


No witch hunting here. DOUG. But its hard not to want to rant. My information was on that site.

328 lone star  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 12:49:05pm

Got a response to the hacking incident. Reported it, ad have recd several emails from people all over the place today. This is from apl.washington.edu. Anyone out there can tell me what this means???:::


Thanks for bringing this to my attention. We did not intend
to post your information. Details follow.

The squid test below was merely repeating what it had been given from nyc.indymedia.org so I can't be of much help with the source. We can and did, however, turn off our proxy as soon as we knew it was public and not only open to test locations.

I apologize for our part in disseminating your contact information.

Details:

A member of APL/DCS was testing squid ([Link: www.squid-cache.org)...] using nyc.indymedia.org as a test source. When we received the first complaint (Sunday evening) we terminated the test.

We did not intend the test to be publically accessable, that was a mistake in configuration and I apologize for that. I believe it was up for 2 or 3 days on an old 200Mhz Pentium II.

Squid is a high-efficiency website repeater/proxy, useful in making more efficient use of web hardware, network resources, and distributed data management but you probably know that already.

nyc.indymedia.org provided a good source technically; lots of website changes, dynamic article development, on-the-fly data compression and generation, session and cookie use, and varied data types; one member of DCS is familiar with the site, which does not require a "login" to access news reports, and the editorial and technical people gave permission to use the site for our tests. Testing against a mostly static webiste such as our current APL website is not much of a test. Many other news sites either require logins to access articles, or have copyright restrictions; thus they are less useful for our purposes.

The test was turned off as soon as we were made aware of the complaints on Sunday evening.

---
David Fetrow
Distributed Computing Services
Applied Physics Lab, Univ. of Washington

329 JHW  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 12:55:20pm

FrankNH#306 Thank you very much for that link to the site which exposes phony vets, I intend to use it.There is a guy on there that lives about 10 miles from me, I am going to make sure that he doesn`t get away with peddling his lies around here.I`ve been on a 1 man crusade to expose these phonies for years, it`s unbelievable how many are around. They shit on all real veterans, and the public usually buys their crap at face value and that`s why you occasionally hear comments about "cry-baby vets". This is why Kerry is striking such a nerve, you can smell the BS a thousand miles away with some of his stories.I can only imagine how 10 years from noe phonies are going to be coming out of the woodwork telling Iraq stories and shitting on those who are serving now, and I really hope the public does`nt let them get away with it.As for Kerry`s medals I don`t honestly know if they were deserved or not, but I do recommend a book titled "Self-Destruction" by Cecil B. Curry on the political careerism and cheapening of awards at that time that made it nearly essential for every officer to get at least a bronze star or face ruin of their career.It got to be something of a scandle with bored lower ranking clerk typists getting the awards down to a kind of art form of using formulaic recommendations and making sure that every officer got the neccessary tickets punched.The Australian troops used to make wise-cracks about US officers looking like Christmas trees with all the ribbons(medals are hard to come by in the Australian and British forces)

330 foreign devil  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 1:26:48pm

#325 Doug:

There are two separate incidents. Protest Warrior was hacked by somebody and Indymedia posted their address list.

ALSO, an anarchist named Matthew Toups from Carnegie Mellon U., a Senior in their Computer Dept., somehow hacked into the RNC Delegates' Address List which has the hotels they'll be staying at in NYC. This guy also posted the Delegates' addresses on Indymedia.

Indymedia is hosting a lot of illegal activity.

331 doug2  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 1:54:31pm

#330 foreign devil

Thanks for clarifying, but I am still a little confused. I've read this thread over about 4 times and I'm still trying to figure it out, thanks for helping, can you help me understand in more detail?

Protest Warrior was hacked by somebody and Indymedia posted their address list

I understand this, but what I dont understand is the "Indymedia posted their address list" -- because by following that link it appears as if some unregistered person posted to Indymedia this address list, not Indymedia itself. As I asked above, if I had hacked some nazimedia site and then posted their address list here, would that be LGF posting the address list? Or someone on the LGF forums posting it? I think its the latter, and that is pretty important.

ALSO an anarchist named Matt Toups... hacked into the RNC Delegates' Address List... this guy also posted the Delegates' addresses on Indymedia

This too I am confused by, I don't see anywhere that says that Matt Toups hacked this list, and that he was the one who posted it to Indymedia. What I see is someone looked up an IP address of an Indymedia "INDYPGH.ORG" machine and found Matt Toups's name, but I don't see anything other than that! It does look like INDYPGH is an Indymedia machine, but it isn't even in NYC, so I am really confused...

332 Charles  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 4:34:29pm

Indymedia calls itself an "open publishing system" (or whatever their current jargon is), so the posts containing Protest Warrior email addresses were posted by ... anyone.

This gives the Indymedia "staffers" (if you want to call them that) a degree of deniability.

333 Yehudit  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 6:39:20pm
It was about a block from the "Wooden Shoe anarchist collective " bookstore, (you might be familiar) near South St. so it should come as no surprise!

That place is still around? I left Philly in 1992, and that bookstore had been around for many years then.

Another venerable Philly left-wing institution.

334 foreign devil  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 7:13:37pm

What's been happening with the RNC Delegate List Indymedia heist and the Protest Warrior thing?

I went to bed at 4:30 this morning--woke up at 9:30 a.m. est and had to boot it to get to an appt. at 10:15 a.m. The rest of the day was packed and I was bushed when I got home. Didn't see any likely threads on today's (23rd) batch and came here and saw you were still discussing? What have I missed. I've read most of it.

I have something to share. I saw the new Protest Warrior post about being hacked and reported that to PW's abuse address from the WHOIS. They've replied with a standard response that they will be following it up. Last night before I went to bed I'd emailed the General Counsel and the Chairman of the RNC with links. No response so far from them but the emails weren't returned so somebody got them.

335 foreign devil  Mon, Aug 23, 2004 7:46:48pm

Looks like the NYC Indymedia Site is DOS. They has posted Protest Warrior addresses and passwords earlier, a copy of which I sent to the abuse.net address and asked that it be stopped.

Now I can't access NYC Indymedia. Anyone else try?

336 LooseCoin  Tue, Aug 24, 2004 4:33:37pm

If you mean [Link: nyc.indymedia.org...] then it's exceptionally slow but working. For what it's worth, that domain is resolving to the IP 212.100.241.39 - the 212.x.x.x block is owned by Ripe and allocated to a hosting provider (Rackspace). Whois lookup for 212.100.241.39.

337 ThaSickness  Tue, Aug 24, 2004 11:03:37pm

Man, I hope all of you guys that are going to counter-protest the protesters in NYC are very careful. Looking at the IdiotMedia site made me cringe, especially the assholes making threats about Moltov cocktails and such.
Please, be vigilant, and be careful. WE can't let these domestic terrorists try to win.


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