welcome to my nightmare

I want to see a pro-Bush ad - "No more mister nice guy..."

Billion Dollar Babies!

Don't get the Washington Journal thing, though.

You know, for a former performance art/rock freak he makes a lot of sense.

and of course, " I wanna be Elected!"

(first!)

Why are we rock stars? Because we’re morons.

LOL

Maybe he was thinking of "National Journal." Or C-Span's "Washington Journal."

He must have loved Woodstock.

Wow, I had no idea he had a normal streak...

When I get home from work, I want to wrap myself around you.

I want to hold you and please you 'till the passion starts to rise.

I want to take you to heaven, that would make my day complete...

Cause You and me ain't no superstars...what we are is what we are, just some passion popcorn and TV...

Alice Cooper Rocks!

God Bless ya Alice...

some rock N rollers really do have since...

tell em all to shut up and sing!!

Great,
now I have to pull that "Joey Ramone for Pres" off my car.
So now who do I get to do my thinking for me? Maybe I can ask other clueless dolts dor direction. Can any one point me to Indymedia?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - this is a classic - this needs a homepage link.

no doubt.

It is nice when one of my pubescent idols isn't an idiot.

"The list of pop-culture Republicans includes Britney Spears, Toby Keith and Ted Nugent"

{guffaws}
Seeing those three names next to each other is just plain funny ...

Sorry to be OT so soon in the the thread, but...

Bahrain loses power...

... to kill time, everyone dresses up in Nike Burkas and runs around the track!

OK, I'm buying his Cd's :D

This is the best damn news I have heard in 6 months.

Alice Cooper for President!!!

:)

-ron

Such a nice boy-I always liked him. My mother always hated him-that's enough for me.
Alice come play in NY or NJ I will buy tickets. Hell, I will sell tickets if you need me to!!

Treason against Rock and Roll!

ROTFLMAO

"...because we're morons. We sleep all day and play music at night" !

Alice Cooper rules man!!!

:)

-ron

I prefer the coal miner's daughter myself.

She has been quiet lately, but she campaigned for Bush the Elder.

#16:

leaving people without air conditioning in the heat and humidity of the Persian Gulf.

While I'll be the first to admit I don't want to be in 130-degree heat under any circumstances, I have to wonder: What the hell did people do about the heat before electricity was discovered?

Well done Alice, common sense from a rock star. Then again, despite his image and shock rock shows...he works tirelessly for homeless charities (if my memory of an interview with him on the Tommy Vance Rock Show almost a decade ago serves me right). Good on you Alice.

OT: finally!

Le Consistoire Central met solennellement en garde les pouvoirs publics, rappelant que comme tous les citoyens de ce pays, quelle que soit leur origine ou leur religion, les Juifs de France entendent être défendus par leur justice et que la patience de la communauté juive a forcément des limites.

A-freakin'-men Alice.

Way to harsh their buzz, Alice!

Mr Pol, via autotranslator:

The Central Consistory solemnly warns the authorities, recalling that
like all the citizens of this country, whatever their origin or their religion, the Jews of France intend to be defended by their justice and that the patience of the Jewish community has limits inevitably.

So who is the Central Consistory? Is that a Jewish authority or council in France? Does this mean the Jews of France are
-not taking it any more, and taking their protection into their own hands or
-demanding better police protection ("defended by their justice") or
-what?

I'm voting for Alice!

No More Mister Nice Guy

Alice Cooper 1973

I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing
'Til they got a hold of me.
I opened doors for little old ladies,
I helped the blind to see.
I got no friends 'cause they read the papers.
They can't be seen with me and I'm gettin' real shot down
And I'm feeling mean.

No more Mister Nice Guy,
No more Mister Clean,
No more Mister Nice Guy,
They say he's sick, he's obscene.

I got no friends 'cause they read the papers.
They can't be seen with me and I'm gettin' real shot down
And I'm, I'm gettin' mean.

No more Mister Nice Guy,
No more Mister Clean,
No more Mister Nice Guy,
They say he's sick, he's obscene.

My dog bit me on the leg today.
My cat clawed my eyes.
Ma's been thrown out of the s-social circle,
And dad has to hide.
I went to church incognito.
When everybody rose, the Reverend Smith, he
He recognized me,
And punched me in the nose.

He Said:
No more Mister Nice Guy,
No more Mister Clean,
No more Mister Nice Guy,
He said you're sick, you're obscene.

No more Mister Nice Guy,
No more Mister Clean,
No more Mister Nice Guy,
He said you're sick, you're obscene.

#23
For those of us whose high school French has been long forgotten, translation s'il vous plait.

#23 Mr Pol

Mon français est horrible. La traduction s'il vous plaît.

# 21 Barb

"What the hell did people do about the heat before electricity was discovered?"

Work really hard from sunrise until it became unbearable (perhaps about noon). Siesta. Travel if possible. Accomplish what can be done at dusk. Sleep. Repeat.

Hmm, maybe this explains why big Mo was so cranky ...

Who would have ever thought Alice Fricking Cooper would have more, and talk more sense than a Dem running for president.

The end is nigh.

Mike7411

PS: Alice kicks butt.

Mr Pol's link, autotranslation courtesy of Google:

Popincourt official statement
Official statement of the Central Consistory of France
Following lignoble case of arson against the Jewish social center of the street Popincourt, in Paris, the Central Consistory of France expresses all at the same time his nausea and his deep lassitude.

These odious acts follow upon too many other crimes anti-semites which took place these four last years in France. We condemn, once more, with force this drift and the vulgarizing of linjustifiable.

The Central Consistory notes however that its judgments, like those of the political authorities of France, are not enough obviously any more.

He cannot sempêcher note the shift which exists between the remarks contristés or made indignant of circumstance, with each new attack counters goods or people, and the decisions taken, in same time, by French Justice.

This one, by releasing the notorious anti-semites or by punishing those which dare to carry felt sorry for, deliberately relegates lantisemitism to the row of simple offence dopinion.

The Central Consistory solemnly warns the authorities, recalling that like all the citizens of this country, whatever their origin or their religion, the Jews of France intend to be defended by their justice and that the patience of the Jewish community has limits inevitably.

The central Consistory is dismayed to have to make these remarks while at the same time France commemorates the final victory against the Nazism and the collaboration and the release of its capital.

Is Alice Cooper the guy who has been doing the Staples commercials?

#28 Elcid

I always liked Megadeths extra hook at the end when they covered it...

"Actually I was never a nice guy in the first place, y'know?"

Dave Mustaine is also a staunch Republican...

#33 evariste

Unlike most I have read, that's a pretty good Google translation. Mr. Pol, nevermind my request.

OT

Dole Defends Swiftees in Call From Kerry

Dole said Kerry responded, "I haven't spent one dime attacking President Bush."

But the Republican war hero shot back, "You don't have to. You've got all the so-called mainstream media, plus you've got MoveOn.org and all these other groups that have spent millions and millions of dollars trying to tarnish Bush's image."

"Don't tell me you don't know what some of these people are doing," he told Kerry.

"Everybody likes quiet heroes," Dole added, saying he told Kerry, "John, everybody knows you were in Vietnam and the less you say about it, the better."

NewsMax

OT - Are the Dems preparing a Florida 2000 Redux (with commentary)?

#37 Elcid

Ouch! You know, I never really liked Dole when he ran in 1996, but he seems like he's getting better with age!

If you’re listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you’re a bigger moron than they are.

That's up there with quotes by Einstein and Descartes!

#26 evariste

Huh... sorry. The Consistoire Central is the Jewish religious authority in France. And the message is, enough is enough, if this goes on the Jewish community will take steps to ensure its own security. In other words, they've decided to stop pissing me off and start preparing to fight.

OT: via Command Post -- OUCH!!!

[Link: www.judicialwatch.org...]

Re: Request for Investigation, Determination and Final Disposition of Awards Granted to Lieutenant (junior grade) John Forbes Kerry, USNR.

While a commissioned officer in the inactive Naval Reserve, Senator Kerry traveled to Paris, France and met with official delegations from the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam) and the Provisional Revolutionary Government (the Viet Cong). The Vietnamese Communists eagerly met Senator Kerry and benefited directly from the obvious propaganda victory (See Exhibit 2, page 126 – 129).

These acts are clear violations of the legal prohibitions on individual citizens negotiating with foreign powers (18 U.S.C. ' 953) and the constitutional prohibition against giving support to our nation’s enemies in wartime (Article III, Section 3). Additionally, as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve, Senator Kerry was subject to the UCMJ, and likely violated Article 104 (“Aiding the Enemy”) through his actions with the North Vietnamese/Viet Cong delegation.

Oh, this reminds me of the article I posted last week...

walks away in a huff

But if anyone missed the thread I posted it on, then you probably missed this :-)

OK, I will quit bitchin' now. :-P

I've met Alice a few times here in Phoenix and he really is a down-to-earth gool guy. Works with charity and even ran for governor once ("A Troubled Man for Troubled Times")...rock on, Alice!!

#41
Thanks for the info.

Ugh..."gool" = "cool" PIMF!

Thank you, Mr Pol :-)

And yes, that's really good news, assuming they aren't only talking.

#43 Right Wing Conspirator

Aack! Old school MTV's Lisa Kennedy.

have you heard gene simmons of KISS? big supporter of Bush and his fight against terror..i guess the more outrageous looking guys are RIGHT

Aaand, Alice is an avid golfer!

He, indeed, rocks, out loud.
/Ben Stein

#48 evariste

And yes, that's really good news, assuming they aren't only talking.

Assuming they aren't only talking. That's the $1.000.000 question.
Any info on that Mr Pol?

And word is out that Lynard Skynard (I could never spell that) is supposidly planning at Republican events. Is it the NY convention?

The solid center-right strikes back.

I'd love to see the remaining members of Skynard go into a cage match with Neil Young and kick is ass.

I must do preview..

It's "Playing" at Rep events, not planning.

#53 Dave the...

Wow...I was going to say, Lynrd Skynrd,...planning the RNC...time to head to New York :-)

#52 David 'Parisian Insider'

It's easy to tell - will Betar get any funding?

"I vote Republican,
I worship Martha Stewart, and I don't mind being naked."

Yay !!!

So the super duper Alice Cooper hangs with McCain at basketball games!

And Fox said Adam Sandler is a republican...

bwahaha

Hate to split hairs, and you guys have probably already noticed this, but he isn't calling these guys traitors against the US but traitors against rock-n-roll. Probably it's just me, but I hate it when musicians take what is an enjoyable pasttime and try to make it into a movement: The Army of Rawwwk!!! Raise Your Goblet to Rawwk!!! Stand And Salute The Rawwwk!!! It seems so cheezy. I dig Alice anyway, though.

#49 RIP Ford

Aack! Old school MTV's Lisa Kennedy.

Fine, fine...you can have the DNC version.

#57 RWC

Who is that?

Go ALICE! Go!

#56 Mr Pol

will Betar get any funding?

I very much doubt so.
Should it happen, what a great opportunity for the righteous journalists of l'Immonde and co. This could further up their attempts of establishing a moral equivalence between the [bigoted word] thugs and the "ultrazionist Betar extremists".
Because as we all know, the Betar regularly desecrates muslim cemeteries and burn down mosques.

#61 Right Wing Conspirator

Fine, fine...you can have the DNC version.

{Runs out of the room screaming.}

LOL

I'll take the lass that's linked in #57 if you don't mind. ;P

#65 David 'Parisian Insider'

We'll see. If Betar doesn't get any funding from the usual assholes, then it's only talk again.

I'm your top prime cut of meat, I'm your choice,
I wanna be elected,
I'm your yankee doodle dandy in a gold Rolls Royce,
I wanna be elected,
Kids want a savior, don't need a fake,
I wanna be elected,
We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make,
I wanna be elected, elected, elected.

Convention Music, indeed!

#64 bigel

Why is it that the heavy metal musicians are more likely to be the Republicans?

They're the ones that grew up, cleaned up their act and faced reality... the ones who are still wishy washy protesters are the ones who never cleaned themselves of their drug habits nor faced the reality of life.

Virtually all the older hippies saw sense, like David Horowitz of Front Page magazine...

#62 GW

My ex-girlfriend ;-)

Just kidding (obviously) - it is Haley Cope.

#69 bigel

Can't Israel get some help to Betar?

That's not the issue. The issue is, will French Jewish institutions fund Betar?

Yeah, if Lynrd Synrd was planning the convention you'd be seeing a lot of empty booze bottles rolling around on the floor by the time prime-time came.

#64 bigel

Why is it that the heavy metal musicians are more likely to be the Republicans?

I'm guessing they're more into macho.

Ummm, do you remember these guys ?

# 42 g

This has the potential to be huge!!! However, the Insp. Gen. will have to act on it -- quickly. What are the rules for such an investigation?

#69

Betar won't get any help from anyone. Certainly not any of the major organisations who have money... they're all following the politically correct line and don't want to upset any politicians.

That in itself is a good reason not to fund any of the major organisations, but to help little grassroots ones like Betar, who actually get something done, instead of talking about doing things like most of the others have done since the "golden days" of the 70's...

# 74 RWC

OK. so hair bands are the exception that proves the rule ...
:-)

#64 bigel

Why is it that the heavy metal musicians are more likely to be the Republicans?

I'm guessing they're more into macho.

Well, that, and the fact that metal kicks ass.

Totally.

#69 bigel

I just realized you are not aware of the context. Betar in France are the only people willing to answer to [bigoted word] violence in kind - and [bigoted word]s are scared shitless of them. French Jewish institutions treat Betar like shit, condemn everything they do, boycott any Betar activity, known members are in chayrem... So that's the real test.

”If you’re listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you’re a bigger moron than they are."

That's the funniest thing I've read all day!

I knew he was cool when he quit drugs and started playing golf - and then got GOOD!

He and Ted should "headline" the RNConvention!

#79 bigel

I'm not going to say anything about that - except to point out that it would be illegal :-)

#76 Nannette

At least in France, it's a lot worse than just 'not getting help'.

Mr Pol

I'm not going to say anything about that - except to point out that it would be illegal :-)

I'm very encouraged by your smile at the end :-)

I assume private firearms ownership is not very widespread in France, am I right?

Yah, once I saw Alice playing golf, I knew he was a Republican inside. Great call tho, Coop. Maybe there's a song in this.

No More Left Wing Wankers

Alice Cooper 2004

I used to be just a music queen
'Til rockers fell off their tree,
I put on makeup to scare your parents
And deafened everybody.
I got a beef 'cuz my rocker buddies
They've gone Commie and me, I am gettin' real pissed off
And, I'm telling 'Steen

No more Mister Liberal,
No more Mister Vote For Kerry,
No more Mister Liberal,
Shut up and just sing, sing, sing, sing.

...

#79 bigel

I can't speak for those guys, but even Motley Crue, with all their make up, porked more women in a week that probably every guy at LGF has porked put together in their entire lives.

Thanks for the ego boost...now where did I put those potato chips and that gallon of ice cream...

#85 evariste

Most firearms are banned, concealed carry is illegal, getting a license for a single-shot .22 pistol is almost impossible. Does that answer your question?

Younger bands come out in support of Bush and conservatism...

[Link: www.conservativepunk.com...]

strange that to be punk and alternative now means rebelling against the liberals and anarchists that started the scene

#90 Rayra

Growing up does some strange things to people.

Lynyrd Skynyrd

I believe that some or half of the 'original' Lynyrd Skynyrd group died in a plane wreck or bus wreck.

39 TQC

Maybe its his Viagra, commercials...:).

And NO, that in no way, is a shot at YOU.

Mr Pol:

Most firearms are banned, concealed carry is illegal, getting a license for a single-shot .22 pistol is almost impossible. Does that answer your question?

It does, and that's pretty much what I imagined. Insane.
Can you legally own private firearms and carry in Israel? Please tell me "yes".

That's a coincidence. My sister just happened to meet him at the airport today and said he was a real gentleman and signed his autograph.

right wing #57 reminded me this is football season!!!

#95 evariste

See here.

Another great conservative legend:

Johnny Ramone

It's interesting that people applaud someone who comes out and states that he has no interest in the leadership of his country...

Doesn't that sound a bit un-American to anyone?

"...great conservative legend"?

That sounds a bit awkward. Should've previewed. Sorry.

Mr Pol, thank you. I just needed to read

2. Firearms possession is not by right, but by permission based on policies which, in effect, promote public safety by assuring that there will in all public places be competent, trained civilians bearing firearms. The philosophy of gun control in Israel is that firearms training is available to the entire loyal, law-abiding citizenry. In addition to the firearms that are privately owned, firearms are freely distributed to trained competent, civilians by the Israeli government (Army or police). And therefore guns are, by comparison to the U.S., very available to the ordinary citizen.

and

4. It is easy for a law-abiding citizen (with no criminal record) to get a permit for a handgun- The primary reason for a permit to issue is personal protection, including the military function and self-defense against terrorism- people have firearms for other reasons too, such as hunting or target shooting, but the main reason is for self defense.

and I'm quite happy with how Israel does it. I'm not completely happy about the line I bolded, but practically, Israel ends up with widespread firearms ownership and expertise. So, good! As for

There is no distinction in Israeli law between carrying a handgun and possessing it: A permit to own a handgun is a permit to carry it on the person (concealed or not concealed). Carrying it is recommended, because then the gun is protected from thieves or children.

I always thought the American distinctions of open carry and concealed carry and requiring permits for them above and beyond those involved in ownership were rather artificial and supercilious. So Israel definitely has the right idea there.

10. To summarize: It is not as easy to get an illegal firearm in Israel as in the U.S.A., but it is possible. However, the phenomenon of drug dealers or other criminals walking around with a firearm on their person is unknown in Israel.

Brill.

#100 bigel

Whattaya think the ice cream is for ?!?

walks away in shame,...regretting that I had typed that

#103 evariste

I expected you to quote this bit:

three terrorists who attempted to machine-gun the throng managed to kill only one victim before being shot down by handgun-carrying Israelis. Presented to the press the next day, the surviving terrorist complained that his group had not realized that Israeli civilians were armed.

Atoz, thanks for the Johnny Ramone link. I had no idea he was conservative, and I've been a Ramones fan for, like, ever.

Mr Pol, somehow I missed it! Thanks for highlighting that, just wonderful. I'm gonna go look for the whole story of that, I must have skipped an entire paragraph or maybe two while skimming.

I have new respect for men who over-indulge in eye makeup and play with snakes...

Mr Pol, immediately after what you quoted comes this:

The terrorists had planned to machine-gun a succession of crowd spots, thinking that they would be able to escape before the police or army could arrive to deal with them.

Wow. I'm really glad Israelis are well-armed as a matter of course, then.

Alice!

There is no distinction in Israeli law between carrying a handgun and possessing it: A permit to own a handgun is a permit to carry it on the person (concealed or not concealed). Carrying it is recommended, because then the gun is protected from thieves or children.

In general israelis do not fire guns in the air to celebrate soccer victories, or do drive-by shooting etc.

In Israel a bus full of teens wearing green uniforms with outmatic weapons is reasuring. I was in a bar once in Israel and a soldier cam in, but his uzi on the floor under his feet, and ordered a beer. I wondered how many beers he would drink, but was not overly concerned. If that happened in Los Angeles I would soiled myself in fear.

#101

I believe the comment is directed at those who have no special political insights, yet use their musical fame to attack Bush and bash my people (conservative-Americans).

I don't have quite as much of a problem is they were using their fame for positive works. Such as fund raisers for the families of servicemen serving overseas.

Alice Cooper isn't saying he doesn't care who leads the country, he's saying that some entertainers are full of themselves.

#101 curious_lib

That isn't what Alice Cooper said, but thanks for creating a convenient strawman your wee brain might contain. I don't want you going all Scanners on us and messing up a perfectly good home computer.

Awesome.

106 Security Mom:

You're very welcome.

And to think when I was a kid, I idolized Dee Dee. Good thing I wised up. :)

#114 Beagle:

From the AC quote:
"...Why are we rock stars? Because we’re morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."

That kind of implies that they aren't particularly interested in political discourse. Of course, with your debate "skills" you don't seem to interested either. You're just here to suck up to bush...

Don't beagles have small penises? Are you projecting something here?

Mr Pol: I followed this link off Charles' Yahoo sidebar; it says both that US permission to build in the settlements is only to help Sharon ram the Gaza plan down Israel's throat. Comments? Does this strike you as plausible or just some crap the "journalist" made up?
I'm not very happy about it if it's true.
Another thing it says that I thought was strange was that the plan was to uproot the 8000 Israelis in Gaza. Yet one of the essays on the site you linked us a couple days ago about Gush Katif said there were 10 000 Jews in Gaza. Are they not all being evacuated, or is the Reuters guy lowballing the population?

curious_lib:

you're log-in name sounds like someone in crisis with their sexuality...so maybe it's best not make statements about other posters genitalia.

PS Alice Cooper was being flippant, he is a very intelligent man. He was suggesting that the majority of rock stars (especially the liberals) aren't really interested about "issues" unless it gets them press, extra praise and a big stadium gig.

#119 Dave Ray
Yeah, great partisan shot (about how liberals especially only care about getting publicity).

How bout this: typical rethuglican line, mocking someone by using a gay joke. Of course, logically, there's no connection with a crisis with one's sexual identity and genital size, but maybe that's what you tell yourself late at night when you're all alone. I don't know, and I really don't care.

Also, it's pretty widely believed that those with the most to hide are the most vocally critical (maybe you should talk with someone you trust. I'm looking out for you here).

#114 Beagle

I agree...you should really enroll in 'Curious Libs Debating Skills 101.'

That way, you can make such infantile, ignorant, childish witty comments as this:

Don't beagles have small penises? Are you projecting something here?

#120 curious_lib

Also, it's pretty widely believed that those with the most to hide are the most vocally critical

#117 curious_lib

Don't beagles have small penises? Are you projecting something here?

#120 curious_lib

typical rethuglican line, mocking someone by using a gay joke.

Grow up.
You were the first to bring sexuality into this discussion.

#120 curious_lib:

Next time try refraining from ad hominem attacks. Dave Ray actually responded to your actual point in his post-script, so try not to waste bandwidth with ridiculous personal insults and only ridiculous personal insults.

Alice Cooper is not saying he isn't interested in who's leading the country. He's saying as entertainers they have a different job to do other than tell us for whom to vote.

Good going, Alice!

His commercial for Staples (back to school) is hilarious.

#20 Al

Bit o'trivia...Kentucky is a state of 20 million people and 10 family names... so while they're only 2nd cousins a couple of times removed, I'm proud that Loretta Lynn (nee Webb) and sister Crystal Gayle (Brenda Gail Webb) are family. ;-)

#120 curious_lib

Also, it's pretty widely believed that those with the most to hide are the most vocally critical

I agree...

"Bush is taking away civil rights !!!"

"Bush is Hitler"

"Bush doesn't care about the working man !!"

"FASCISTS !!!"

Yep, the most vocal are the ones with something to hide.

I need to take a moment, folks. I'm just floored by the cleverness of curious_lib's

rethuglican

and I don't know if I can continue to take part in this conversation, at least not until I've had a chance to collect myself.

Your rapier-sharp wit has cut me to the quick. Rethuglican, indeed. You are the very soul of repartee!

Republican Nudists

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#127 evariste

What do you think?
Maybe 16 or 17 years old?
Am I being too generous?

curious lib

I don't know what manners your mamma taught you, but when you're new to the party, you don't double-dunk the dip and piddle in the corners.

People tend take offense.

Yeah, actually Beagle threw the first ad hominim:
"...your wee brain..." so I only thought it fair to reply in kind.

Of course, you all jump all over me about the obviously sarcastic REPLIES I made, but don't mention one another's attacks.

Dave Ray was just making a cheap, unprovable political statement that somehow liberal performers are only interested in issues when it gets them press... Yeah, Ted Nugent never shoots off his mouth about his "conservative" values. Nice try, though!

The word "Republican" has no "s's", or other silibants, so it would sound exactly the same whether the person saying it has a lisp or not.

#130 Darleen

I think that that is his/her sole intent.

great British word to describe this thing...

TOSSER

Welcome to My Nightmare...JFK's new campaign theme
Billion Dollar Babies...George Soros & Theresa
Sick Things...Libs
No More Mr Nice Guy(s)...Swift Vets

I got no friends 'cause they read the papers blogs
They can't be seen with me
and I'm getting shot down and
I'm feeling mean
No more Mr Nice Guy...
...JFK version

#129 RIP Ford: Way generous; curious_lib's mental age is about 14.

#118 evariste

It's all bullshit. Sharon wants to abandon Gaza to plese Bush and his Judenhass, now Bush 'softens stance' on 'settlements' - but as soon as Sharon will have finished the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, Bush will go back to his previous anti-semitic position. Those POS fuckers are getting on my nerves.

#132 Frank, LOL!

From AC's "Da Da" album from 1983...

I Love America

I love that mountain with those four big heads
I love Velveeta slapped on Wonder Bread
I love a commie... if'n he's good and dead, yup
I love America

I love Old Glory and homemade pie
I think them Ruskies should be sterilized
I love my chicken Kentucky Fried...
Finger Lickin' Good!

Hey there, this is A.B. Cooper from
Cooper's Carnival of Clean and Classic Cars
It's our Fourth of July ... sale.
Here at Cooper's Carnival of Clean and Classic Cars
At the corner of Collins and Commerce
I've got lot full of the finest funny looking cars money can buy
At prices even you can afford
So come on down and say hello to me, and granny
And bring the kids to meet my snake
I say, "bye"
Granny says, "bye"
and the snake says, "sss"

I love General Patton in World War II
My Pocket Fisherman and my Crazy Glue
I love the Beav and Wally too, yeah
I love America

I love the bomb, hot dogs and mustard
I love my girl, but I sure don't trust her
I love what the Indians did to Custer
I love America

Here they come!
There they go!

I love my jeans and I love my hair
I love a real tight skirt and a real nice pair
And on the fourth of July, I love the rockets' red glare
I love America

I watch the A-Team every Tuesday night
I graduated, but I ain't to bright
I love Detroit 'cause I was born to fight
I love America

I love the Tigers but I hate the Mets
I ride my Hog but I race my Vette
I gotta job, but hell I'm still in debt
I love America

I love my bar and I love my truck
I'd do most anything to make a buck
I love a waitress who loves to... flirt!
They're the best kind
I love America
Turn me on
Well, I gotta go now
I love America
Bye Bye, I tell you what though, I really do love it
You ain't going to catch me at no mayday rally

And for those of you wanting to go see Alice Cooper:
[Link: www.alicecooper.com...]

I last saw him back in 76'. Two shows in my area!
Alice ROCKS!

#133 RWC

Gotta be a young'un troll, the old hands at least try to blend in before spitting in the punch bowl.

#131 curious_lib:

Excuse me, sir, but in print, or in type, sarcasm is extremely hard to detect--hence the posters' frequent use of "sarcasm tags." Try 'em next time and maybe you won't end up in your current position.

Dave Ray was just making a cheap, unprovable political statement that somehow liberal performers are only interested in issues when it gets them press... Yeah, Ted Nugent never shoots off his mouth about his "conservative" values. Nice try, though!

Yes, of course he does. Your point is? You think he's doing it for the attention? Given the bad press your side of the fence gives our side of the fence, the only attention he's likely to get is the same jeering "sarcasm" you throw in our faces.

At least try to debate intelligently instead of skipping around the real issue at hand.

Mr Pol-so you think it's true, that it's a quid pro quo...disgusting.

Heavens to Betsy, I'm so glad that curious_lib is here to save my homosexual neck from the mean rethuglicans!

I just cued up Warrant's Cherry Pie from my fairly modest MP3 library -- I used to trade "oldies" and novelty songs on... erm, not Napster, it was, uh, a girl's name + "-ster," if I rightly recollect. But now it's just not worth the hassle of exposing myself to spyware.

Was never into metal myself, as you can glean from the fact that I actually like Cherry Pie in a non-ironic way. (The song itself, and the video, were so deliberately camp that you don't need irony to like them. At least, I think it was deliberate.)

I made the batter and she licked the beaters!

Yeah!

She's my

Cherry Pie...

#131 curious_lib

Have you seen all of the activities/groups/charities that Nugent is involved in ? And if you think Nugent gets a lot of press, well, I would love to know what news you watch and paper you read.

Not like Mr Ben 'Get Out The Vote' Affleck -

*** FEBRUARY 2003 UPDATE: In the new issue of Vanity Fair (March 2003), Ben Affleck again floats the possibility of a future run for Congress. "I think there's a real nobility to public service," he told the magazine. "It would be fun to run on a platform I really believed in, without being beholden to the win-at-all-costs mentality." But when he launches that campaign, Ben will have to explain his pathetic voting record--he's made it to the polls exactly once in the past ten years--and didn't even bother to vote in 2000, when he traveled the country with Al Gore in an effort to get out the youth vote. While TSG nailed Affleck for that bit of hypocrisy back in April 2001--as our below story shows--the actor remained unregistered until three months ago, when he finally re-upped in Los Angeles (and voted in the November general election). So, Ben, welcome back to the franchised world.

#142 evariste

It's not a quid pro quo - Bush will NOT deliver.

#130 Darleen

Excellent advice.

#132 Frank IBC

LOL

Mr Pol

What makes you even attempt to think GW is a Jew-hater?

For pity's sake, he's the first American President to publically state that the Pals, even if they get their own state, had better learn to accept the Jewish settlements!

What, you think Jhimmi Carter was better?

#145 Mr Pol-imprecise phrasing, I didn't really mean that. I just meant that Bush was giving the go ahead for the construction only in order to keep trying to expel the Jews from Gaza. Point well taken.

#147 Darleen

The first US President to make a Bali state official policy, the road trap, 'deeply troubled' whenever Israel took out a terrorist leader, and so on and so on. Bush is doing to Israel what Chamberlain did to Checoslovakia - and don't tell me Chamberlain loved Czechs.

RWC #144

And if you think Nugent gets a lot of press, well, I would love to know what news you watch and paper you read.

The Nuge was the cover story in this month's American Rifleman. I guess curious_lib is an NRA member. ;-)

Yay Alice! Don't particularly like his music, but after dating a rocker for two years, you learn to at least appreciate it :)

May I also add that Gene Simmons is da bomb, but he is a bit biased, what with his real name being Chaim. He quit yeshiva to become a rock star :) "is your motha proud of you?"

Guns and Israel are both cool, but I must admit it's a bit unnerving to watch bar patrons drink and drink and drink, when they have an M16 or Galil slung on their shoulders.

Mr. Pol

Do you honestly think anyone, and I mean even the majority of Israeli supporters, or the majority of Israeli citizens, expect to incorporate the whole of the West Bank into Israel and expell all the Arab-Pals??

Sheesh!

I invoke Godwin's law.

Just curious, was the area around Gaza ever allotted to a specific tribe, in the Torah?

"To me, that’s treason. I call it treason against rock ‘n’ roll because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics."

Yeah, right. Ever heard of CSNY's song "Ohio," or Country Joe and the Fish's anti-war anthem? There are countless other examples.

Alice has been smoking too much weed, apparently.

#153 Darleen

I see, you're not interested in facts. OK. Have a nice life.

#95 evariste

Can you legally own private firearms and carry in Israel? Please tell me "yes

Of course you can. You only have to have a license. The license is given to anybody who is not a criminal, and who has no history of mental illness. Both my hubby and I have the license, he got it as an officer in IAF, and I - as a member of the CD. We never came around to actually buying guns. LOL.

There was a case several months (a year?) ago when I women shot a terrorist with her private gun in the supermarket in Dugit before he activated a bomb. Also, most shooting/stabbing terrirust attacks in Israel were ended by the citizens killing/wounding the terrorist.

There is far less fascination with weapons and shooting among Israelis than among Americans, which is understandable IMO.

CSNY's "Ohio" or Motley Crue's "Girls, Girls, Girls"? Such a choice...

...I'll plump for Rock & Roll with out the moralising thanks.

Bigel:

My meeting went fine, I was in a bad grumpy tired mood so no-one argued and I got my way.

The calculator thing actually worked you sly old devil.

"Motley Crue" has a great sound, but I tossed albums after Vince Neil killed someone while driving drunk.

I met him on a golf course in Scottsdale about 9 years ago and thought I'd impress him by addressing him by his real name...NOT.

"Everybody calls me Alice," he said, with a leering, twisted, smile.

Rock the vote, indeed.

...I believe the person who died was Razzle from Hanoi Rocks, a terrible waste of life. Motley Crue were never known for their brains or their subtlety (their last box set was called "music to crash your car too")...they were quite a good party metal band though...although nowhere near the same league as Van Halen.

Yeah, it's quite legal to own firearms. My (rather spry) 71 year old grandfather lives in Jerusalem, and according to grandma, he doesn't go ANYWHERE without his colt. Ever. He has a shoulder holster, and he goes to the firing range every few weeks. He's cool :)

Spurs have played two games of the new season.

a 1-1 draw with Liverpool (a game I thought we'd lose)
and a 0-1 away win against Newcastle Utd (a fantastic result)

we're looking better than we have for about five years. Fingers crossed.

As for the football world cup...we'll see. England have a very difficult qualifying group, and haven't been playing overly well lately (not losing, just looking poor).

Hope your AMERICAN FOOTBALL team does well.

ps congrats to the US womens olympic team for getting to the final.

Bigel:

have you looked at the store! They sell REPLITHENTIC shirts! What does that mean? Surely they're either replicas or authentic? Another Americanism I'm not used to.

Nice shirts though

Has anyone noticed the terrifying similarity between Alice Cooper and John Kerry?

*shudders*

#150 Rena

No, not an NRA member... I've seen him around somewhere elswhere.

(I know you were making a joke, I'm not being sarcastic)

well the season runs from mid august to mid may and it's currently called the Barclaycard Premiership...or for purists just the Premiership.

As for number of games there are 38 of them excluding the FA Cup and the League Cup...and if you qualified for Europe you have the Champions league and the UEFA Cup...a lot of football then

the FA Cup is seperate from the Premiership and open to all Pro and Amateur sides...it's also the oldest and most famous cup competition in the world

#144 Right Wing Conspirator

Nugent is often on MTV/VH1, which is has a rather large audience in the 18-35-ish market... Kind of a lot of press. More than Alice Cooper.

Bigel:

I tell you what, you have a choice of Arsenal, Chelsea or West Ham in the football then...I hate all of 'em

#141 AddictedLizardoid

Sarcasm is pretty easy to detect when it's in response to pathetic, partisan jibes (like making a gay joke).

Of course, the right has never been known to be supportive of anyone other than white males...

Your right on the first two, although I prefer Spammers for West Ham.

Man Utd are the Red Devils

#174 curious_lib

Nugent is often on MTV/VH1, which is has a rather large audience in the 18-35-ish market... Kind of a lot of press. More than Alice Cooper.

Oh, sorry. I guess I grew out of my teeny-bopper phase.

ps - when was Ted Nugent on MTV ? Meaning what show ? Was he an evil anti-vegan ?

#176 curious_lib

Of course, the right has never been known to be supportive of anyone other than white males...

Blah...blah...blah...

The left is great at supporting minorities...well, that is until they don't toe the party line - then it is house ni***r, race trader, sellout, Uncle Tom, Oreo, etc...

#179 RWC-dunno about the mtv question, but his reality show on vh1 is the shiznite!

Of course, the right has never been known to be supportive of anyone other than white males...

What a piece of crap! Liberals 'caged' their protestors at the DNC. You pussies are going to slice tires and harass the RNC delegates..WOW you guys really have a point. 'We're fair, if you're republican, we don't care what color you are!'.. It's so spiritual!

And you are such a wonderful person. "I'll listen until I hear something, and then scream,'Racism, Homophopia!, uhh uhh ... uh wait let me look at the book...oh yeah INTOLERANCE! ..now I got em!!!

Knock the cobwebs off that playbook and throw it in the trash can..

YOU Libs are the ones that embraced the protests of the vietnam war on college campuses celebrating your Freedom of Speech,and now shout down any conservative speakers, saying they don't deserve to speak..YOU have become the Kent State National Guard, only this time it is intentional!

#180 evariste

Sh*t !!

When the hell is it on ???

RWC: a season of it just ended, they've had one special and then one season. They show reruns of both pretty often.

#171 bigel:

so I passionately despise the Rangers

Who doesn't? Really a damn shame. They got the smartest guy in hockey, a huge payroll, and they still manage to shit the bed every year.

Sheesh.

Alice Cooper 4 Prez in 2008

Pizz on that H bitch in NY hang her for treason also!

RWC: Looking at vh1's page for the show, they aren't showing any show times. So I don't know when they'll next do a rerun. It's a really great show though.

I swear that Alan Colmbs just said "move-on dot dork ads."

Bigel:

What cure for insommnia? I need that! Please re-post or link.

PLEEEZE

Aargh #190 was me. RMM used my PC to make a comment this weekend and I forgot to change it back to my name. He doesn't have insommnia, I do!

#187 bigel:

still languish in obscurity compared to the Rangers.

Well, they don't exactly play the most exciting system in hockey.

Besides, I have to suffer the ignomity of being a Canucks fan.

Regular season:

Brilliant, exciting, fast-paced, hard-hitting hockey.

Playoffs:

Blow goat cock. Get eliminated first round. They could go up against a school for the blind and still get their asses handed to them first round.

I believe the person who died was Razzle from Hanoi Rocks, a terrible waste of life.

Sorry, but that is in no way a justification for what Vince Neil did. And frankly, I'm shocked that you'd suggest otherwise.

#192 Cam

Blow goat cock. Get eliminated first round. They could go up against a school for the blind and still get their asses handed to them first round.

LOL
Don't hold anything back, Cam. :P

#192 Cam:

Blow goat cock

Pardon?

#192 Cam

Have they got a goat mascot or something? Sounds like a crowd pleaser :)

#194 RIP Ford:

Now you know what it takes to rile up a Canadian...

;-)

#193 Frank IBC

I read it as:

...a terrible waste of life, for him to die.

I could be wrong, I guess.

#117 curious_lib

That's not what your mama said.

#196 Sarah D.

LMAO!

#197 Cam

Now you know what it takes to rile up a Canadian...

Now you know what it takes to get the full and undevided attention of an entire LGF thread.

:P

PINMF!

#200 RIP Ford:

Well, it was either that or start spouting Gordonisms...

GACK! I feel dirty.

Please note: I linked to moveon.org in this thread. I'm sure they check their referrer logs often.

Take from that what you may.

Alice Cooper a Republican? Who'd'a thunk! While his remarks sound nice, he's wrong. Popular music, including rock, has been full of politics. Check out the lyrics of songs of the early 70's.

Even folk music was political. Peter Paul and Mary are still in the anti-war movement, singing lots of their old time favorites and some new political songs, too.

But I still like how Alice thinks.

#203 Charles-

Please note: I linked to moveon.org in this thread. I'm sure they check their referrer logs often.

Take from that what you may.

Well, I was all set to make fun of curious_lib but he registered about 15 minutes before you posted this thread. You must be talking about fadoop, then?

Thank you, Alice Cooper. I dislike it when entertainers presume to tell me how to vote or what to think.

It seems to me fair enough if they - before the show or something - make a pitch for their favorite charity. But I hate being preached at. I paid for a ticket to listen to music. I don't think they're morons, though I appreciate the remarks.

Another entertainer with heart and mind in the right place -- Larry Gatlin in the WSJ today (subscription needed - excerpts below).

To say, as John Kerry has, that "If attacked I will respond decisively" is not enough in today's world. Good Lord, Senator Kerry -- Barney Fife would respond decisively if we were attacked again! President Bush had the strength of will and courage to preemptively take out those who would attack us. I say "Rock on, Mr. President" (you too, Bruce). Keep checking out the bad guys and let Barney keep peace in Mayberry (a little humor in the middle of a very serious situation).

My gratitude to the president isn't confined to his role in keeping us safe. His tax cuts have helped all Americans who pay federal income taxes and have jump-started an economy that was in recession through no fault of President Bush. Those who refuse to see that have their heads in the sand and a "Kerry for President" bumper sticker on their SUVs. (I'd say the former condition is pretty much a prerequisite for the latter.) I'm no economist, but I do know two things for sure: I never got a job from a poor man; and the more money people have in their pockets, the more jobs they create by spending that money.
. . .
In closing, I'd say this to Bruce Springsteen: We do have something in common -- we were both "Born in the USA." From the bottom of my heart I say, Thank God.

#209 curious_lib

That was really funny!. I told that joke to your mother and she laughed so hard she fell out of bed.

#195 Fay
#192 Cam:

Blow goat cock
Pardon?

#196 Sarah D.
#192 Cam

Have they got a goat mascot or something? Sounds like a crowd pleaser :)
***
In the US Navy they have a goat as a mascot. A ship in the US Navy has a goat locker. Inside this goat locker is a bunch of CPO's. Does this realy sound like a crowd pleaser because some of those old goats are nasty. Just think of the old day's of the good ol "Pig Boats" when they did not wash "Blow goat cock"

OMG! What has happened to this place...

Fay -
I don't know, but if you want to read a pretty good article on it, try Let's show a little civility, you treasonous loser

It's pretty good.

Thanks for the hat tip Charles. I finally got my modem replaced on my home PC so I can post at night. I think that there are more pro Bush celebrities out there then we realize.

Actually if I am not mistaken, Alice Cooper is also a Christian and quite a decent gentleman...his stage persona aside...

And if Skynrd are going to be supporting the Repubs, that is just awesome and not at all surprising...

Even though they lost 3 original members in a plane crash in 77 including the lead singer Ronnie Van Zant, the new version of Skynrd is still excellent and are led by the brother of Ronnie, Johnny Van Zant who sounds almost identical to Ronnie...very very good stuff...

Nice too see the odd person in the entertainment industry have a decent head on their shoulder!!!

Kudos to Alice!!!

I'm not surprised that a shock-rocker turned out to be a grounded person. To be Alice Cooper one has to be either completely deranged or very sane. Cooper is a very sane person who can separate life from play. What's great, is that he teaches his fans to do the same!

Somebody above brought up the fact that there are many protest songs out there. And there are some folk songs that actually make sense as protest songs and that almost of qualify for rock'n'roll. But real rock'n'roll is about fun. It's a shame that so many people are shy about admitting it. I guess with big stars like Springsteen, Madonna and all of them... it really messes with their heads, and they feel guilty, and they have this need to prove something. So they have to come up with some sort of a political cause and sway starry-eyed teens.

As for the protest rock songs... if they are important, it's because we have this outdated idea that left-wingers are rebels. When rock musicians who need to be rebels and outlaws identify with left-wing causes, they conform our expectations. Other then that, rockers are laughable political spokesmen. The smart ones, like Cooper, keep art and politics separated. If Cooper would start a Kerry is Chamberlain tour... well, first of all his audience wouldn't know who Chamberlain was...

#213 LC LaWedgie

Thanks for the link.

I can't remember a time on LGF where such a foul, infantile comment has been left to fester. I'm outta here.

#218 Iron Fist:

Hi Hon:P

You don't have to tell me what LGF is or isn't, I've been around here since pre 9/11. And I would never even presume to suggest to Charles what he does or doesn't do on his site.

I simply asked what had happened to this place (I suppose I was expecting a more vocal response to that vile dropping @209) it wasn't meant as a criticism of Charles.

#221 Iron Fist:

It's not like I can really shoot the SOB over TCP/IP :-P

Boo Hoo!

Thanks, Charles.

And banned, too! Sweet.

Thank you Charles.

You be well too Iron Fist.

#218 Iron Fist

Actually, LGF is a lot more polite since the Lizardoid Master instituted registration.

I was actually kind of against it,..you know,...not as much troll stompings.

But I think it is great now, especially the 'Registered since' and '# of comments posted.'

Gives me a better chance to read the person correctly. Maybe the guy/gal just forgot the sarc tag or something. But when asshats come here, like 'curious_lib' and I see he/she just registered today and comes in pissing on the carpet, well, that dog gets spanked - (I don't spank my Kayla though,...never had to, never will :-)

#223 evariste

Thanks (for earlier.) Never knew Nugent had a show on VH1, going to have to try and find it.

ps - totally forgot the name, but go to the library and grab his latest book (not 'Kill it and Grill it' ;-) the other one.

pss - maybe not latest, I think it came out 2 years ago.

Whoa! Charles wields the Weapon of Dumbass Destruction, and I missed it!

I think there's still some scum left on the previous thread, though.

#228 Dar ul Harb

WTF ?!?!?

He/she has a seriously fu**ed up mentality. About 80 percent of his/her posts allude to sexual orientation.

Curious_lib - I guess since we are fascist, racist, hatemongers,...you can throw in homophobic too, huh ???

aaarrrggghhh, I hate these IGNORANT asswipes who cannot see their total hypocricy in everything they stand for

#34
Staples Commercial
Yes, the very same guy. Cute commercial, even cuter kid, but I still find his theatrics gross.

linkie, linkie:

[Link: www.alicecoopersweb.com...]

adamthemadman

adam Al-Hazarad Al-Falafel Al-Bundy Al-Low Al-low Guvnah'

RWC

I think the curious one said somewhere (can't be bothered to look it up) that Republicans only support "white men."

Did anyone tell Condi she's a white man?

Jews may have the right to carry in Israel..and they should have, cause it is needed...but last I heard..Jews dont fire these lethal weapons in the air willy nilly..cause ITS STUPID and its wastes bullets and you could "put an eye out"...

Mostly cuase it is StUPID tho..and furthermore it isnt a substitute for fireing off your DICK. (I think THATs what really is involved with Arabs fireing off their weapons like they do--I swear thats ONE of the reasons they do that.)

Arabs need LOVE and KINDNESS from their families..and they need to get loveingly LAID. World would be alot safer if they indulged a bit with women who could actually FEEL what was going on. Geezeee.

AND they need some MEDS..cause they arent well AT..ALL. I had to finally conclude that. Hated to do it..but...all the evidence points to...something really disfuctional..TO SAY THE LEAST.

Disclaimer...ALERT...NOT everysinglesolitqaryarab is disfuctional...we all know that peeps..dont we? Its true...of course...SOME need meds..but it is alot of SOMES.

#231 Fay

Don't worry, I saw it. ;-)

G'night all.

ps - #232 Vickie, - I had a new pic of Kayla and one of her kills, but it is at work. I will send it to you tomorrow :-)

Might as well hit the trifecta before I go to bed.

Quafecta ? :-)

ehhh, screw it...nighty night all.

Right Wing..Show me the PICTURE. I love Kayla. I loved her from the first second I saw her. G-d that baby is a sweetheart.

Ya know..if Arab Households had their own Kaylas...we'd be in so much LESS trouble. They need..Kaylas..and to get lovinly laid by women who love them back cause they are such sweet husbands and Daddies. (I can dream cant I?)

Kisses to your baby. Kiss for you too. (notice who get kissed first tho...I need help...lololol)

193:

sorry if you mis-read me, I can't see how I was justifying what Vince Neil did. I was just expressing the tragedy of the situation. What Mr Neil did was a stupid, terrible and irresponsible thing and deserves the punishment he got and more.

OT: I saw that l Mens Gymnastic Event tonight. Something is radically WRONG with those Judges. This Russian guy did that EXTROIDINARY Hi Bar Exercise..(It was really something..graceful, strong, skilled, beautiful..Im running out of words here..It was FABULOUS) and they gave this guy a redic low score. The entire audience errupted in fury over the scroe they gave the Russian and good for them!!! A Three Year Old could tell how wrong that score was. When this whole Olympics is over..they need to look into the JUDGING of at least the Gynmastics Events (there were other too low scores as well) and find out what the FUCK is going on there.

I guess the Ballroom Dancing..that DID make the Olympics..will be in the next WINTER? Olympics. Or...do we have to wait till the next Summer Olympics? (STOP THAT SNICKERING...I know you all are doing it out there...lolol) Think about it tho. Rather see the Tango..than some wanna be Ester Williams type doing that stupid syncronized crap in the pool? What the hell is THAT anyway? Certainly NOT any kind of sport--neither is that stupid gymnastics thing? with the balls and the ribbons? What IS that? And what about that winter thing with the broom and the big hocky puck on ice? What kind of sport is that? (that Canadian Sport) Ice broom Shuffleboad?

Least ..Dancing..is straight up Dancing...The Dancing Community are updating the "Swing" that theyve used in Competition. Its now really a Swing/Jitterbug/Jazz/ROCK combination... Gonna be really neat. ALso...Cha Cha is sort of being updated as well..,...is also gonna morph into more of a Salsa Dancing.. or at least Salsa will be part of the Latin catagory. THAT is going to be SOOO much fun. Theve udated the hairsyles..and theyve thrown out the stupid dresses they used to wear in Competiton...All Modernized..So...get ready ..and get ready to call your dance studios cause when you see it you will be wanting to dance too. Its soo much--- I cant wait.

#148 evariste

From VOA

The State Department said Monday the United States continues to seek a freeze on Israeli settlement activity even though it has refrained from criticizing new moves by Israel to expand existing West Bank settlements. It said technical-level talks are being held with the government of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon on its building plans.

The Bush administration is insisting that it continues to support, and seek, an end to Israeli settlement activity in Palestinian areas amid press reports and Arab charges that it has softened its stand on the issue.

[...]

"Settlement activity in the occupied territories must stop," [State Department Deputy Spokesman Adam Ereli] said. "That is the position of the United States. That is what the parties signed up for. The 'road map' provides a way forward toward a freeze on settlement activity. That is what we are working for. So I think it's wrong and inaccurate to write that somehow the United States is condoning or supporting or otherwise turning a blind eye to agreements made in the Road Map, and at Aqaba. Those agreements remain."

QED. Bush cannot be trusted.

I missed gymnastics today. I try to watch it as much as I can -- the athletes are absolutely breathtaking. There is usually something wrong with the judges, and the networks, too. Did they really have to show Paul Hamm falling over on the judges' table ten times in slow motion?

Mr Pol, I think he means well, even though his plans for Israel are entirely poisonous. I only wish his intentions could be synched to his policies.
Bush is principled about few things. Here is one area where I wish he would be more principled.
I do think he's been the best American president for Israel, which is basically a booby prize.
Thanks for the VOA stuff. It's still entirely possible that this is the NYT stirring shit up, or the NYT + a State Department official with an agenda of malice.

I do have to agree that he can't be trusted. I don't trust him not to sell anything or anyone out because he's sold out all kinds of conservative principles over his first term.

#242 evariste

I do think he's been the best American president for Israel

Like Chamberlain was the best British PM for Czecoslovakia, yeah...

Leah, LOL!

Arabs need LOVE and KINDNESS from their families..and they need to get loveingly LAID. World would be alot safer if they indulged a bit with women who could actually FEEL what was going on. Geezeee.

AND they need some MEDS..cause they arent well AT..ALL. I had to finally conclude that. Hated to do it..but...all the evidence points to...something really disfuctional..TO SAY THE LEAST.

Okay, I'm Arab, hook me up, girl! The loving lay, the drugs, evythang.
what do you mean, you didn't mean you and me personally?

Mr Pol

Like Chamberlain was the best British PM for Czecoslovakia, yeah...

I did say it was a booby prize. If we abolished the Executive branch for four years, that would be the best Presidency for Israel ever.
Congress loves Israel, because the American people do. this is a cherished belief of mine so if you must destroy it let me down gently please :-)

#246 evariste

Well... I do not think the American people love Israel. They are our best friend, not out of love, but out of moral principle.

Although you wouldn't be destroying anything, just disillusioning me.

Mr Pol-

Well... I do not think the American people love Israel. They are our best friend, not out of love, but out of moral principle.

well, this BalestinianAmerican does love Israel, sight unseen. But yes, you're probably right. More out of moral principle, and self-recognition. "Those people are just like us, we can't leave them in the lurch". and I do mean Lurch, I refuse to believe we will elect this dangerous soviet fucker

Alice used to date Dinah Shore -No shi*

The antithesis of rock is gettting involved with poltics?!

What is Mr. Cooper talking about?

Ever hear of Bob Dylan, the Who, the Byrds, Hendrix, Credence, Billy Joel, and U2?

The list goes on and on. The reality is that rock and politics have always been connected in many ways.

Nobody has more American songs than John Mellencamp.

#231 Fay

I imagine Colin would be surprised to hear the news, too!

A strange little story here...

The guy who got me into Alice Cooper, way back in my sophomore year in high school (1972), was the orphaned son of a man who had Johnny Spann's job, i.e. a CIA paramilitary officer who died in the line of duty.

Scott went on to join the Navy and then the Coast Guard, and died in a freak accident while on active duty.

He introduced me to practical conservatism as well as Alice Cooper, and I sure wish he could be alive to see that Alice is fighting the good fight in his stead.

Stop barking please. What Cooper saying is not that rock'n'rollers never get involved in politics, but that when they do get involved, the result is pathetic. Hendrix, btw, war pro-war until the very end of his life. Black nationalists denounced him for dating white girls.

Nobody has more American songs than John Mellencamp.

You mean he wrote more songs then other American musicians?