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Palestinians Celebrate Mass Murder

Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 1:39:57 pm PDT

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1 crown_of_feathers  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:41:23am

Those people need to be dead, soon.

2 underground  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:41:28am

deranged, deluded people.....

3 scaramouche  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:41:31am

In a place with no theme parks or Chuck E. Cheeses, this is what passes for family fun.

4 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:41:43am

Sickening. To the very core.

5 Holden McGroyn  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:41:46am

Death-seeking blood cult.

Let's give them what they want....

6 Doctor Phibes  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:41:50am

They deserve a state, don't they?

/lederhosen a bit too tight

7 zulubaby  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:42:22am

I can't stand it. I'm going out into the sunshine.

8 Maine's Michael  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:43:14am

Tranfer.

And that's being generous.

9 underground  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:43:14am

Coming here from tthe previous thread, I have to say that I certainly do not feel "dead" inside about these images.

10 RIP Ford  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:43:36am

{spit}

11 Maine's Michael  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:44:15am

Tranfer is similar to Transfer, only faster and with a little more brutality.

12 Jamie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:44:25am

I eagerly await the car swarm photos hopefully soon to come...

13 gargamel  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:45:08am

How could they celebrate such a cowardly act? They most be suffering from some mental disorder or maybe they are just evil.

14 Frank IBC  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:45:18am

Good thing they aren't wearing any of those "Purple Heart Bandages". Then Andrew Sullivan might get really upset.

15 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:46:00am

How cute! Is the wee one in the bottom pic gonna fire off a few celebratory bursts from his toy gun?

16 JohnAnnArbor  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:47:05am

#14--

Yeah, can't have that. One tweak of Kerry and he uses up a month's worth of hyperbole.

He WAS on vacation for a month, French-style.

17 No Leaf Clover  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:47:07am

Fucking die, just die already.

18 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:47:25am

I've never, in my life, seen Americans celebrate the deaths of any human being on the planet. Sure, we have cheered our troops when victorious in battle, but that celebration is not about the deaths of our foes, but rather about the end of conflict.

What these people are doing is dancing on fresh graves. Graves of innocent people riding a bus. There is no word in any language with which I am familiar to describe the positively anti-human behavior of these savages.

This sort of depravity must be taught. It is not something that is found even in total anarchy with no social boundries. Only when hate and death are foundations of a culture do we see demonstrations like this.

Would and LLLs like to play the part of the moral relitavist right now? I dare you.

19 Jamie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:48:09am

Dear PM Sharon,

Charles Johnson has been a good friend to Israel. He likes posting pictures on his website, so do you think you could help repay his advocacy for Israel by generating some timely car swarm photos? You know what to do.

Thanks,
Jamie

20 Poitiers-Lepanto  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:48:11am

There is one word, but we have been brainwashed not to use it or at least to take it as a metaphor:

evil.

And I mean satan (=the enemy).

These pictures are an image of hell, the hell where these people have their minds (I use the word mind as a metaphor, of course these are demented).

21 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:48:47am
22 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:48:53am
There is no word in any language with which I am familiar to describe the positively anti-human behavior of these savages.

Try "Palestininan".

23 LOVEtheIDF  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:49:07am

I wish them a painful death

24 zombie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:49:36am

Every second of joy in the hearts of these monsters causes another angel to die in heaven.

25 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:50:25am
Try "Palestininan".

Should read "Palestinian". Sorry.

26 brego  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:50:44am

Exacly the same type of celebration from exactly the same people the day of 911. Animals, and should be treated as such.

27 yellowroseoftexas  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:50:45am

I am literally at a loss for words after seeing this.That is very frightening to think that human beings can become so desensitized and so depraved that they can actually celebrate the brutal murder of other people.I noticed almost all of the celebrants had huge smiles on their faces.Islam has to be a satanic religion. That is the only explanation for such cruelty

28 addison  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:50:48am

What a disgusting culture.

29 snopes  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:51:15am

OT - I am preparing to rebut an "Israel doesn't have the right to exist" argument and am looking for info (from non-Israeli sources, sorry but they won't be accepted) on the number of Jews living in the entire Arab region at the creation of Israel and a list of countries that kicked Jews out after its creation as well.

Thank you.

30 LOVEtheIDF  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:51:59am

Roll in the tanks!

31 Cam  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:52:54am

#19 Jamie:

These "people" are celebrating a successful suicide bombing. Are you somehow suggesting that Sharon is responsible for these acts of terrorism?

32 zombie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:53:53am

We have to hike it up a level:

From
ROPMA = "Religion of Peace" My Ass
to
ROPMMA = "Religion of Peace" Michael Moore's Ass

There is nothing on earth more disgusting.

33 Maine's Michael  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:54:28am

Take the away the Nike shoes, the printed 'T's, and the bad haircuts, and you have bunch of amalekites ritualisticaly celebrating child sacrifice to their B'aal.

What goes around comes around. Victory WILL be ours.

34 BH  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:54:42am

Please support the Hellfires for Hajjis Fund.

35 Norwegian kafir  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:55:00am

And people residing in MY country gave these creeps the Nobel Peace Prize. Here is a list of emails to people working at the Nobel Peace Center in Oslo, in case somebody wants them. Tell them what you think!

36 Frank IBC  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:55:02am

Given that Hizbullah now has links to today's atrocity, it's quite possible that the anticipated car swarmers will be the next of kin of Iran's nuclear scientists.

37 Poitiers-Lepanto  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:55:11am

#26 Brego

You insult the animals, who are sacred and beautiful.

These people are infinitely BELOW any animal , vegetal or mineral level because they have betrayed the Light in themselves.
They are the mud without shape that evil is made of.

38 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:55:34am

# 31 Cam

Jamie would like to repay them in kind and have Sharon & an Apache "arrange" for a car swarm to happen ...

39 Meir  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:56:00am

Can you blame a dog for barking? That's what these animal do, so do not blame them, blame the Israeli governments of today and the past for allowing the murders to be committed. Blame the impotent IDF for not securing the inhabitants of the country nor securing the territorial integrity of the Land of Israel.
Sharon is building a ghetto and enough idiots are so happy about that. He is also preparing the mass expulsion/deportation of Jews back into the ghetto. Good thing the train only goes to Ashkelon.

40 BH  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:56:13am

What the-? They gave that kid a machine gun and a hip flask? Are they crazy?!?

41 Frank IBC  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:56:35am

Norwegian Kafir -

That would be appropriate, since the namesake of the Nobel Peace Center discovered the dynamite that is used by these animals.

42 Albertadude  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:58:02am

Jamie is a little punk........look at the thread from yesterday how he defends Islam.........

Another apologist useful idiot......or another Gordon I suppose....

Hey Jamie .......I am still awaiting you to refute my points about Islam's inherent brutality??

Come on punk.........were awaiting your answer??

43 Cam  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:58:02am

#38 Buckaroo:

Oh. Duh.

Thanks Buck. Jamie, apologies.

44 zulubaby  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:58:11am

snopes, see if you can get them to watch The Silent Exodus.

45 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:58:35am

Let nature take its course... Pueden gozar por siempre de los agujeros y de las cuevas de la araña.

46 Albertadude  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:58:49am

Don't apologize Cam........Jamie defends Islam......he is a useful idiot par excellance.......

Another Gordon for sure....

47 IowaInfidel  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:59:50am

Wow, between this and the Martin LeFevre thread, may brain may just explode. How can Martin LeFevre call Bush inwardly dead but yet support (if a typical LLL) people who glorify murdering innocent people?

I'm just dumbfounded. Hopefully after Rudy's jabs at Arafart and appeasing terrorists, it'll become "ok" for real politicians to say these things out loud. How refreshing to hear someone call things like they are.

Islam is a death cult, a scourge upon the face of the earth. That fact sunk in when the terrorists started beheading their captives. Their god allah is not the same Judeo-Christian God I grew up with, at least not in my mind.

48 bad elvin  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:00:39pm

these "people" possess absolutely zero redeeming qualities. they produce nothing but hate, death, and misery, not only for Israel but for their own as well. to see the joy in their faces in these pictures, as we saw in the news footage of their celebrations on 9-11, is to know that for these people to be "dead inside" would be a drastic step up.

49 RC neo-Jew  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:00:43pm

#13 gargamel

How could they celebrate such a cowardly act? They most be suffering from some mental disorder or maybe they are just evil.

They are just evil.

50 J. Lichty  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:00:54pm

Of course not only have the Palestinian animals attempted to usurp Jewish history, they have stolen the crowd surfing technique from our punk and grunge scene.

51 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:01:10pm

18 Lizard by the Bay


There can be no compromising with a people, whose majority, it seems, view the murder of civilians as something to be celebrated. Of course, these are the same goons who celebrated Americans having to choose between death by burning or inhaling superheated smoke or death by jumping over 1000 feet.


They will have to be solidly defeated, Dresden/Cologne/Tokyo style, I suspect.


About celebrating death: I beg to differ, if Arafat dies (especially from unnatural causes), and/or when The Iraqi people execute Saddam, I'll make whatever the latest LGF thread is my own personal drinking thread.

52 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:01:22pm

Just read the captions -- **this** is called the revenge for smoking Yassin and Rantisi??!! R They Serious? Sheesh, what's the opposite of "blitzkreig?"

OK, since their response took 4 months -- Go IDF --take out whoever claims to be on their "board" -- then take out the new "board" 3 months from now! rinse. Repeat. Annnd --

faster please ...

53 Poitiers-Lepanto  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:02:12pm

#39 Meir

Please see my #37, thanks.

We are not all of the same Religion here and I would respectfully ask everybody to avoid references to Beings who are maybe sacred in other people's life.

Animals or B'aal Rites are not exactly what I would put together with these photos of EVIL.

Thank you.

54 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:03:55pm

Yeah, let's give 'em a state...

Preferably the gaseous state.

55 angeles  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:04:53pm

Check them out, stop them, be alert. Don't give up.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

Alert Female Soldier Prevents Bombing Attack
16:54 Aug 31, '04 / 14 Elul 5764

A suicide bombing attack was prevented at the Erez Crossing in northern Gaza early this morning. An alert female soldier - 20-year-old Michal Eliyahu of Jerusalem - suspected one particular Arab, among the thousands who pass through daily, because he "looked at me strangely. I had never seen him before, and he looked at me with raised eyebrows, and then tried to avoid my gaze." Michal called him over for an extra check, but he tried to ignore her. He finally came over, and when she saw that his entry pass had expired three years ago, she called over her commander. Within seconds, he stood the terrorist against a wall, trained his weapon on him, and told him to remove his shirt. The terrorist at that point admitted that he had "something" - an explosive device - in his pants. The explosive was later safely detonated, and the would-be mass-murderer was taken into custody. Defense Minister Mofaz said that while the terrorists have not been successful of late, their motivation to perpetrate attacks has not decreased.

56 Cole Slaw  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:04:58pm

#29 snopes

See the "American Sephardi Federation" website

[Link: www.jewishrefugees.org...]

57 Meir  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:05:06pm

#45 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Pueden gozar por siempre de los agujeros y de las cuevas de la araña.

No entiendo que quisiste decir con eso. Por favor explica.

58 JohnAnnArbor  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:05:21pm

#54--

Plasma is also a state of matter.

59 DP111  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:05:32pm

As if the series of mass murders from the RoP was not enough, we now have

US aid for Islamic schools

The United States announced yesterday US$468mil (RM1.77bil) in aid to Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, earmarking part of it to improve Islamic schools, which have been blamed for encouraging fundamentalism.

[Link: www.thestar.com.my...]

and more

Boyce has been active in visiting Indonesia's thousands of pesantrens in recent years. He was once surprised when a drum band of veiled girls from a moderate Islamic school welcomed him with a rendition of rock anthem Stairway to Heaven.

It doesnt take much to fool a dimwit Kuffar does it.

I'm trying to see what the US hopes to get out of this. Such spending only increases the contempt Muslims have of Infidels and America. That opinion is low enough, but to actually fund Islamic schools, is beyond even the surreal.

Thanks to Dhimmi Watch.

Please Americans, write to your Congressperson.

60 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:05:54pm

Highly oxidized gaseous state.

61 Maine's Michael  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:06:54pm

Sharon is a disaster.

Elected to bring security, he showed contempt for the mandate he was given by adopting the policies of his adversaries (absorbing body blows to Israel while building a wall and withdrawing from territories while under fire).

Mr. Sharon, the world will continue to hate you no matter what you do. May as well try and save jewish lives, the way you promised you would, instead of sucking up to Bush.

62 Dr. Sanity  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:07:08pm

These are the people who are dead inside.

63 Elcid  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:07:38pm

I have no words. Except, these people need to die, young, old and in between....Death!

64 Jamie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:08:47pm

#46 Albertadude,

I hope you'll forgive me for taking delight in your mad frothing at the mouth. While you're obsessing over a religion, some folks are actually interested in winning the war on terror.

I'll let you worry about ancient Arabic texts. I'm slightly more concerned with the Hamas/Arafat/al-Qaeda types.

65 JohnAnnArbor  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:09:58pm

#64--

You must understand who the enemy is to defeat them.

66 Megan  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:10:29pm

What a sick, barbaric, worthless culture. How can anyone defend these people?

67 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:10:30pm

#51 Ed

About celebrating death: I beg to differ, if Arafat dies (especially from unnatural causes), and/or when The Iraqi people execute Saddam, I'll make whatever the latest LGF thread is my own personal drinking thread.

Do what you need to, I will take that time to mourn their victims.

68 Jamie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:10:39pm

#31 Cam / #38 Buckaroo,

Buckaroo got it right. I hope Israel does what she typically does and takes out a Hamas / Islamic Jihad / Fatah leader. Often this is done while they're driving, often you get a car swarm, of which we get to see the depraved pictures.

69 snopes  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:11:47pm

zulubaby & cole slaw - thanks for the tips.

70 locutus  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:12:11pm
71 bad elvin  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:12:32pm

caption for the bottom picture posted above...

"Stop that kid, he stole my wallet!"

72 Colt  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:12:58pm

#40 BH

They gave that kid a machine gun and a hip flask? Are they crazy?!?

That's not a hip-flask. It's a Koran.

73 biff  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:13:58pm

Of course, if an entity were to take this party out, it would duly be reported tomorrow as having been a wedding party.

74 RIP Ford  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:14:24pm

According to Drudge:

Rudolph Giuliani tells Iowa Delegation He Is Considering Presidential Run in '08...

No link, yet.

75 angeles  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:14:46pm

#53 Poitiers-Lepanto

We are not all of the same Religion here and I would respectfully ask everybody to avoid references to Beings who are maybe sacred in other people's life

I think that's really an impossible request.

#39 Meir

Can you blame a dog for barking?

Yes. In certain instances you can blame a dog for barking.

These are not dogs, however, these are humans who have degraded themselves to a very low level: they not only take human life with a rationale of lies, but they glorify their acts of murder. They are the antithesis of being Jewish: Amalek.

76 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:15:20pm

Finish the fence and cut these evil freaks off from Israel for good....Let them stew in their own filth!

77 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:15:46pm

And al-Reuters says it's alright, it's just a "toy" gun...

78 zulubaby  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:16:12pm

snopes, the figures are stated in those videos but I don't remember exactly what they were. Basically there were a few million Jews living in the various Arab states and now there are a couple thousand. They refer to them as the cemetery watchers or some such thing.

79 Megan  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:16:14pm

Who was responsible for the false rumor that the footage of the Palestinians celebrating 9/11 was a fake? Was it Palestinians, or leftists? And do they try and deny all of these celebrations whenever Israelis are killed?

80 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:22:20pm

# 79 M

IIRC, it was some LLLs in So. America ...

Usually they don't have to deny these ones -- the LLL press (and their various stringers named, mysteriosuly, achmed, abdul etc.) simply spins it to near unrecognizability. That's why one of Charles' most popular features here are the car swarm photos, the rallies w/ the "edited" portraits, etc. ...

81 NuclearTinkerbell  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:23:44pm

Third picture: future Special Olympics Palestinian Biathlon champion. (No offense to Special Olympics or Athletes.)

Who puts a ski mask on their kid like that with no snow around? Really?

82 cosmicview  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:25:21pm

A new deterrent
The photographers who get credit for taking these pictures, the media agencies who publish them and those who work for those agencies should now be targets of anti terrorists who hunt them down end this publicity immediately. Reporting and glorifying genocide is criminal and should carry the death penalty.

83 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:26:43pm

I'm callin' it -

Target-Rich Environment

84 andrew2  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:26:56pm

Let us not forget that these people pictured above are ARABS.

Con-Jobing the world into accepting them as "Palestinians" was a stroke of rare genius from these ARABS.

Their illigitimacy and worth as a civilisation should be measured by the acts of depravity and evil which they commit almost as easily as you or I take off our shoes.

ARABS and Moslems are divorcing themselves from the human race.

85 Skippy  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:27:02pm
Moonbat arrested for coming within 10 feet of VP Cheney

He goes to Yale Universit. So, my guess would be that this is what the faculty made him do to cover his scholarship work-study obligations!

86 Minuteman  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:27:31pm

#74 I predict Giuliani / Rice 2008 will beat Clinton / Obama.

87 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:27:32pm

# 74 RIP

Look, I will be forever greatful to Rudy for his actions on and after 9/11, but he's got a lotta baggage re: personal issues and that could wiegh heavily in a national race. IMO -- let's just get through '04 before we worry about '08, OK?

88 BH  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:28:30pm

#72 Colt

That's not a hip-flask. It's a Koran.

Even worse! Who knew that Ultimate Evil was available in soft, hand-tooled leather?

89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:28:38pm

2 words:

Daisy Cutters.

Anytime they palis group to celebrate a bombing, drop Daisy Cutters.

Of course, a fuel air bomb would be just as good.

90 Colt  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:30:47pm

#88 BH

Even worse!

Really? Drunks can get sober. Muslims who try to do the same thing get killed.

91 hobgoblin  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:31:05pm

John Kerry was right all along. Who'd of thought his "nuance" wasn't nuance at all: it is the gospel truth.

From Guliani's speach last night:

In October of 2003 he told an Arab-American Institute in Detroit that a security barrier separating Israel from the Palestinian Territories was a "barrier to peace." OK.

Then a few months later, he took exactly the opposite position. In an interview with the Jerusalem Post he said, "Israel's security fence is a legitimate act of self defense."

It's really a rather consistent position---Jews defending themselves is a barrier to peace (the peace of the grave for Jews and the conquest of the Ummah).

These retards in the headbands just prove that time and again.

92 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:32:08pm

#47 IowaInfidel

How can Martin LeFevre call Bush inwardly dead but yet support (if a typical LLL) people who glorify murdering innocent people?

It's all that weed he's smoked.

93 xbalanke  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:32:09pm

What kind of swarm would this be? barbarian swarm? vermin swarm? ... How about simply: evil swarm?

94 TalkinKamel  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:32:26pm

I wish Martin LeFevre, the bozo who'se the subject of the other thread, could see these guys! Talk about being spiritually dead!

Time to deport them.

#24 Zombie:

The angels know very well where the evil joy of these creatures comes from, they've seen it all before;

Angels don't die; angels get angry. (Heh, heh, heh. . . )

95 Belize042  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:33:13pm

Captions for #1:

1. "It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A!"

2. "The itsy bitsy spider crawled up the water spout---and then exploded."

3. Reaction is swift as Al Jazeera announces Kerry leads in some presidential polls.

4. "I scream, you scream, we all scream for jihad!"

For photo #2:

1. "Hey, Abu, put your hand here. What does that feel like to you?"

2. Gay Pride members demonstrate outside Madison Square Garden.

3. "This is the last time I volunteer for a group prostate exam."

4. "You know, Mohamed, I think our remake coulde be bigger than the original Saturday Night Fever."

5. And thus was born the Legend of the Atomic Wedgie.

For photo #3:

Words f***ing fail me. Sorry.

96 Cam  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:33:39pm

#87 Buckaroo:

Do you think his divorce would be that big an issue? I know it was pretty messy, but people have short memories about that sort of thing.

(Assuming that's what you were referring to)

97 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:33:40pm

# 90 Colt

"You're drunk!"
"You're an Islamist. I'll be sober in the morning!"
:-)
:-)

98 Van Impe  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:34:39pm

#82 cosmicview

The photographers who get credit for taking these pictures, the media agencies who publish them and those who work for those agencies should now be targets of anti terrorists who hunt them down end this publicity immediately. Reporting and glorifying genocide is criminal and should carry the death penalty.

No, then we wouldn't know how savage these people really are. The ones who should be condemned are the MSM producers and editors who refuse to transmit these images to the West.

99 BH  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:35:39pm

#90 Colt:

Yeah, that was kinda my point. As in, alcohol + weapon = bad, koran + weapon = worse.

100 joel2  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:35:45pm

Isaiah 5
20Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Woe, dogs! Woe!

101 Kevin P.  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:36:05pm

LONDON, UK -- Since 1993, the European Union has contributed over €2 billion directly and indirectly to the Palestinian Authority (PA). Member states have donated a further €2 billion in the same period. The Funding for Peace Coalition has released a new report detailing the diversion of unprecedented sums of financial aid from the Palestinian people towards corruption and violence.

The report, entitled “Managing European Taxpayers’ Money: Supporting The Palestinian Arabs – A Study In Transparency”, exposes evidence showing a compelling connection between European funding and ongoing Palestinian corruption and terrorism. It highlights the utter failure of European organisations to monitor where these funds have been directed. The report details theft, nepotism, and embezzlement on the part of the PA, supported by incompetence and apathy on the part of European agencies.

..................

(pdf)

The EU funding terrorism in the pali territory, say it isn't so!

102 transient  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:37:06pm

#77

Question. Are the type of people saying it's okay because it's 'only' a toy gun (surely not limited to al-Reuters) the same people who wouldn't let their own kids play with toy guns because they might learn violence or grow up to be soldiers?

103 Colt  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:37:08pm

#97 Buckaroo

Precisely :-)

-------------------

OT: From before the Moscow subway bombing: Moscow fears two suicide bombers at large

That leaves one left...

104 piglet  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:37:15pm

FOund this looking in UN archives: What Syria and Sweden thougt in 1946 or so:

Emirdel Arslan of Syria

Palestine, he said was not the land of origin of the Jews, and that when the Arabs conquered Palestine, no Jews lived there.


--------------

The Swedeish Representive, Mr. Sandler:

"The Creation of a Jewish State, delcared Mr. Sandler, would not solve the problem of all the Jews of Europe who no longer had a country."

[Link: domino.un.org...]

105 Sir Lurksalot  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:37:21pm

When your culture is too stupid to change a lightbulb, you need to lash out at others and take what pleasure you can out of making them feel pain.

106 Cam  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:37:35pm

#102 transient:

Evcellent point.

107 Colt  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:38:04pm

#99 BH

Unfortunately, the gun is fake and the flask is a Koran. I'd feel a little better if that kid were as pissed as a newt with an automatic weapon in that crowd of savages.

108 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:38:40pm

# 96 Cam

not just the divorce, but the having the girlfriend in the nightclubs, sleeping with her in Gracie Mansion before everything was even finalized etc. etc. etc.
And if he pulls a Gingrich and dumps the one he's with now, ai yi yi!

But that's the staid, conservative evangelical Chrsitian in me, I guess -- I'd just prefer a J.C. Watts/A. Keyes/S. Largent type -- stable family, draws strength from long-term marriage, and so on

109 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:39:12pm

#57 Meir

May they forever enjoy spider holes and caves...

110 Darth Bubba  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:40:07pm

"Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

Lt. Ripley

111 Luigi  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:40:47pm

Just about every comment above sees right through the veneer to the core of the Palestinian character. These are not voices in the wilderness. Look at the LGF stats from yesterday:

Yesterday
Total: 63,459
Unique: 47,080

I think Bush is going to win. The campaign is just beginning. By Election Day the American people will see that Kerry's liberal viewpoint panders to the European view of these people as hapless victims of Israeli wickedness, while Bush's policy gives them the dignity of free choice. These people choose to be what they are. They run to it. They deserve the consequences.

112 zombie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:41:12pm
#79 Megan 
Who was responsible for the false rumor that the footage of the Palestinians celebrating 9/11 was a fake? Was it Palestinians, or leftists? And do they try and deny all of these celebrations whenever Israelis are killed?

#80 Buckaroo
IIRC, it was some LLLs in So. America ...

Usually they don't have to deny these ones -- the LLL press (and their various stringers named, mysteriosuly, achmed, abdul etc.) simply spins it to near unrecognizability.

It goes like this: to Muslims, celebrating death and murder is natural and is seen as positive and helping their cause. To the Palestinians and all backward Muslims, they presume that the sight of them celebrating will cause their enemies to give up hope and surrender. To them, publicizing their barbarity is the propaganda goal. That's why they release beheading videos, dance for the cameras after murdering people, etc.

It is the LLLs of the West who understand that the antics of the Muslims only have the reverse of their intended effect -- i.e. it only makes us hate them even more and want to wipe them out. So the LLLs do everything they can to disguise and hide and ignore the celebrations and rantings of their Muslim brethren.

It's a sick relationship. The LLLs treat the Muslims like puppies that haven't been potty-trained, patiently cleaning up the disgusting piles they leave everywhere.

113 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:41:22pm
114 Debbie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:41:36pm

Feel sorry for these kids. Someone may celebrate their "heroic" martyrdom one day. And then they'll discover none of the virgins are going to put out. Do Israelis celebrate after a successful military operation (which needless to say does not target civilians)? This is vile. I've always squirmed at the cliche about hate being taught (because it's so often self righteously misapplied to mild prejudices most people hold) but what is this? What do they gain from this? A new settlement? No. Their own country? Could have had that on more than one occasion. The winner gets to party and beam over ordinary folk going about their daily business having their hands severed off.

115 JohnAnnArbor  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:42:46pm

Grammar question:
Is the proper form "al-Reuters" or "ar-Reuters"?

116 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:43:19pm

# 112 z

That's a much better answer than mine!!!!

117 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:44:11pm

# 115 J

In keeping with traditional transliteration rules, al- ...
:-)

118 John B  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:46:09pm

This society is unbelievably sick and depraved. And to think they want their own state and believe they can run it.

119 SoCalJustice  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:46:54pm

So depressing.

This is probably what Juan Cole and Justin Raimondo looked like when they first heard Leslie Stahl's "Israeli Spy" report on Friday.

120 john galt  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:47:58pm

I apologize for re-stating the obvious, but if Americans or Israelis openly celebrated the the murder of innocent civilians, pictures of the celebration would be plastered on the front page of every newspaper on the planet. I can't imagine the worldwide shock and disgust if Americans were to cheer in the streets at the news of murdered civilians.

The peace protesters who claim outrage and disgust over the harm inflicted on civilians during war are now presented with an unambiguous example of intentional and gleeful targeting of innocent civilians. Should we expect massive demonstrations against the murderers? I won't hold my breath.

121 Yishai  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:48:16pm

Those poor kids. They don't stand a chance of being human.
I just hope some of them can pull themselves out of the foulsome muck of hatred in which those Arabs have mired themselves.
(Ow. brain fry)

122 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:49:09pm

# 119 SCJ

Now that is funny -- in a gallows humor sort of way ...

OT -- Think we need a new thread -- Fwance kisses enough ass to maybe get the reporters freed in hours!

123 transient  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:50:05pm

#104

Short version:
"We don't want 'em. YOU take 'em."
"WE don't want 'em. Hey, Mikey."

124 RIP Ford  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:50:46pm

#119 SoCalJustice

LOL

125 dsesq67  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:52:42pm

In the perverse logic of the kangaroo court otherwise known as the ICJ, Israel must not install its security barrier, as that may result in a de facto taking without compensation of Arab lands--nevermind that any final borders are to be determined by "peace" negotiations.

The security barrier in the area of Be'er Sheva is not yet complete and it is reported that the two homicide bombers came from Hebron.

The attack is evidence that the full length of the barrier must be completed to seperate Israelis from the onslaught of Arab murderers. The smug smiles and cheers of these Arab children ought to be--but alas won't be--a wake up call that all hope is lost for these sick people and that there can be no peace with people who lack even the slightest hint of a soul, or, for that matter, a conscience.

It's interesting too, that the global media brigade, who stop at nothing to make these souless creatures valient heroes in a struggle against the evil Israelis, do not see the irony in posting pictures like these. One look at the first picture, and you know that you are not dealing with people who have any sense of right or wrong, nor any respect for the sanctity of life.

For all of their anti-Israel zeal, I do not recall Reuters, AP, Agence France Press, or the BBC publishing pictures of Israelis gleefully celebrating the successful IDF killing of an Arab terror meister. Why is that? Because it doesn't happen. Instead, the Israelis solemnly go about the grim business of fighting this war, not taking any pleasure that killing must be a matter of course. On the flip side you have the Arab. A people so inculcated with hate, so steeped in Jihadi logic that all notions of the sanctity of life are lost, and so deluded that death is the only way.

The Arabs claim Islam as the great successor to Judaism...yet the humanity has been stripped from their religion and replaced by the death cult mentality. Hamas alleges that these were in retaliation for the Yassin and Rantissi killings--are we to believe that the countless prior and failed attempts over the past six months were to avenge someone else's targeted assassination? Hardly. It is disingenuous in the extreme to believe that these homicides were anything but premeditated murder driven by the pure joy that the Arabs thirst for in killing Jews.

The blood lust the Arabs feel for Jews is insatiable and knows no bounds. The glee on the Arab childrens faces proves this out.

126 Mycroft  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:53:05pm

Does anybody know the source of these pictures? I want to show them around, but I want documentation they are celebrations of todays attacks.

127 Gruen  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:54:15pm

You actually make a good point, the life of the Muslim child is a very miserable one, from day one all you're taught is hate and the glory of death. They have no hope and opportunities becuse their "wise Muslim elders" want to keep it that way. Hell I bet they're even discouraged to smile and laugh, except when Jews are burning in buses.....

Compare it to our kids, they learn about the world around them in an open and honest fashion, they play ball with the sun on the faces and the wind in their hair, they ride their bikes over grassy hills and tree-lined streets. They watch wonderful colorful cartoons and indeed, get to go to places like Chuk E Cheese etc. As they grow they discover the wonders of rock n' roll and Pop music, they get to college where everything is possible and they also discover the wonders of Beer!!

They're happy, safe and above all free.

128 andrew  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:54:30pm

#126

Click the pics.

129 Sean II  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:55:14pm

Daisy Cutter....

130 transient  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:57:19pm

#122 Buck

From the Yahoo story it sounds to me like the terrorists might be using hostage taking as a source of income:

Amman was using the contacts developed in freeing its own kidnapped citizens to try to help the French journalists. At least nine Jordanian hostages have been freed in Iraq in the last two weeks.

Call me cynical, but I doubt these hostages are being released out of the goodness of the terrorists' hearts, or warm fuzzy feelings of Islamic brotherhood.

131 zulubaby  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:58:03pm

SoCalJustice (#119)

This is probably what Juan Cole and Justin Raimondo looked like when they first heard Leslie Stahl's "Israeli Spy" report on Friday.

LOL, I'll never get that image out of my head.

132 Maine's Michael  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:58:18pm
Should we expect massive demonstrations against the murderers? I won't hold my breath

No, becasue the Left are the biggest racists of all.

"Every culture has equal validity' is just an excuse for letting arabs/muslims oppress their women, chop each other up, and murder non muslims by the dozen, or thousands, when the spirit (of Baal) moves them.

The real reason the left wants them left alone is because it feels it's silly to expect any more of them, cause they are what they are, so why sacrifice lives to save/help them form harming themselves (and us)?

The cultural perspective verbiage is a politically correct smokescreen for their racism.

133 iagofest a.k.a. abu fly killa  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:58:55pm

Putting guns into the hands of toddlers makes the baby Jesus cry.

134 andrew2  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:59:07pm

Just the other day a boat load of Moslems arrived off the coast of Italy. There were dozens of Arabs who call themselves "Palestianians".

America and Canada and Australia all have their experiences with these...for lack of a better word, Savages.

Lets alow them in and offer them civilisation. But don''t be surprised when the time comes that they rise up and destroy our societies and enslave us.

I just hope the first people rounded up by the Islamists in the West when they assume control are the politicians who allowed this invasion in the first place, then the "journalists".

135 Jheka  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 12:59:59pm

You'll note that there were NO such public celebrations in Russia or anywhere in Chechneya. There's a good reason for that.

O/T: It looks like Rudy is considering a 2008 run for the White House. I can't think of who I'd rather see as President.

136 SoCalJustice  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:00:11pm

JPOST's Khaled Abu Toameh:

Palestinians celebrate Beersheba attacks

While hundreds of Palestinians took to the streets in major cities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip to celebrate the double suicide bombings in Beersheba, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat reiterated his call for sacrificing millions of martyrs to liberate Jerusalem.

Women in Nablus ululated in joy as Arab satellite TV stations interrupted their normal programs to break the news of the bombings. Scores of gunmen opened fire into the air, shouting "Allahu Akbar!" or God is Great.

Similar expressions of joy were reported in Tulkarm and Jenin.

In Gaza City, hundreds of Palestinians marched in the streets carrying pictures of slain Hamas leaders Ahmed Yassin and Abdel Aziz Rantisi. The protesters hailed the suicide bombers as heroes and urged Hamas to launch more attacks inside Israel. Some of the demonstrators handed out sweets to the crowd as a sign of their jubilation.

The attacks in Beersheba took place as Arafat was meeting with hundreds of supporters from the West Bank town of Salfit. Arafat told the crowd that the Palestinians were determined to sacrifice millions of people to liberate Jerusalem.

"We will march towards Jerusalem, we will sacrifice millions of martyrs," Arafat said in his famous battle cry. "Jerusalem is the capital of the state of Palestine."

Alright, let the sacrifice begin, you freakazoid terrorist scumbag.

137 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:01:18pm

# 130 tran

I didn't mean to suggest otherwise, my point was that Chirac immediately went into "yesir nosir threebagsfull sir" mode and may get short-term results this time

And bin Laden calls America the weak horse ...
:-(

138 mrsoc  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:01:56pm

Please tell me that there will be retribution so quick and startling that they will regret it for hundreds of years to come.
Please tell me that their children and their children's children will NOT be whatever it is they are.
Please tell me that tonight there will be fire and fear falling out of the sky onto their heads.
Please tell me this will stop.
I swear I can't stand it any more.

139 SoCalJustice  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:04:00pm

(#131) zulubaby

In case you didn't read it, this is how he ended his "column" upon hearing the news:

At any rate, grab some chips and dip, stock up on beer – heck, bring out the champagne! – put your feet up and get ready for the political trial of the new millennium, because it's going to be quite an entertaining and instructive show.

What kind of perverse muthaf, ok, well, you know what kind - the rotten to the core, hateful, anti-Semite.

140 transient  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:04:35pm

#137 Buck

Wasn't disagreeing, just adding 2 cents.

I'm relieved for the journalists, but this will just encourage the appeasers.

141 Andrew B.  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:05:05pm

I have an idea....let's give them a country.....

Andrew B.

142 beavereater  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:05:26pm

OT

Just in! REUTARDS:

Saddam Hussein just gave his support over to GWB! He was said to say "No one throws away the medals I give out
and still expect my support!

143 Sean II  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:05:39pm

#19 Jamie

Are you an idiot? Trying to imply that in your backward world the Israeli military action is the aggression and that these Pali fucktards are just responding to that aggression. HOWEVER any moral, lucid person sees it in the rational view. Israeli action is the RESULT of THIS Madness, responding by killing and rounding up the garbage that perpetrate these inhuman acts. Grow up.

144 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:05:48pm

122 Buckaroo

Why did you have to go and mention those abominable P'oS?

Chirac will be boasting, 'Look we negotiated with Terror and saved the lives of 2 reporters. We're proud to announce in exchange for their lives, the arms, supplies and funds we'll be providing will cause the death of another 1,500 to 3, 000 Iraqi's.' {msm applause}

145 Cam  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:06:38pm

#108 Buckaroo:

I knew that there had been some controversy, but I hadn't heard the lurid details.

Maybe it's the drunken, skirt-chasing, bar-hopping Canadian in me, but I like my politicians to try to get away with a little nookie on the side. Like the Kennedy bros - I mean, they were both giving it to Marilyn Monroe. Rrrreow!

And dude, you're far from "staid"

;-)

146 dsesq67  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:08:03pm

#138

Nope. It won't. While any other nation would and could, Israel can't because it is held to a global double standard. Thus, the IDF will carefully plot a plan that attempts, as much as possible, to find the terror meisters responsible for this latest Arab atrocity, kill that person or persons, and minimize other casualties.

Mind you, if this happened in any other nation, all hell would break loose on the perpetrators and innocents would be killed by the 100s, perhaps 1000s, in the process. That is how war is fought everywhere else but in Israel, because Israel is held to a double standard that it remarkably adheres to.

No country acts more honorably in the face of those who only want her ultimate destruction.

147 angeles  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:08:08pm

If we are to learn from the past, we should recognize, for the nth time, that appeasement does not work.


It is so imperative that we learn from the past, but too many times, we seem to either forget or ignore, and it is such a blunder. Appeasement is a fatal mistake. And blinders do not change reality, they just screen out what you do not want to see.
We must collectively reject and then correct the erroneous ways of the past, adopting the right means of action: stand tall and proud for what is legitimately, rightfully ours; never acquiesce; when necessary, take the offensive rather than hide behind a good defense; and never, ever despair.

Quotes from David Wilder, Jewish leader in Hevron. Hevron was the capital for seven years of biblical King David, and is currently the home to a small number of Jews and a large number of Arabs, including more than a few terrorists.

148 Mar  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:09:00pm

I despair that the Palestinians will never be able form civil society.

149 Gruen  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:09:56pm

mrsoc,

Have faith my friend in these trying times. On day we will prevail and this will all be over, one day the scourge of anti-semitism will be erased from the earth and all men will look upon us as their true and beloved brothers.

It'll be a long road no doubt and I for one will probably be long dead, but my people have been through some horrific periods for millenia and we're not going anywhere, we'll never be exterminated from this earth because it's not meant to be.

One day it will all end, I'm sure of it.

150 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:10:06pm

# 145 Cam

Remember, I type what I can't necessarily say ...
:-)

151 midas mulligan  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:10:21pm

The latest numbers:
12 Nepali's murdered in Iraq
16 in people Israel
10 in people Moscow

When is the world going to realize that the problem is Islam? And when are we going to do something about it?

152 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:11:32pm

# 144 aHH

I just thought it was relevant to the news of the day (& I'm way too depressed to continue looking at these savage Pali mugs ... )
:-(

153 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:11:50pm

#113 Bigel

Uh, the strawman has some Jewish ancestors..here is an example of a notorious MP feels about us:Dalyell's 'Jewish cabal' remarks denied

Downing Street has attacked Labour MP Tam Dalyell after he complained of a "cabal of Jewish advisers" unduly influencing Tony Blair.

Mr Dalyell made the remarks in an interview with Vanity Fair magazine, identifying Lord Levy, Tony Blair's Middle East envoy, Peter Mandelson, whose father is Jewish, and Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who has Jewish ancestry, the Daily Telegraph reported.

The MP for Linlithgow is a consistent maverick who has already been criticised for "unpatriotic" remarks over the war in Iraq.

Downing Street described his latest controversial remarks about the role of advisers in the prime minister's Middle East policy as "ludicrous".

In most dictionaries, the word cabal is defined in terms of plots or conspiracies, or secret political cliques or factions, and is derived from the Kabbalah, the Jewish tradition of mysticism.

Mr Dalyell denied his remarks were anti-Semitic.

"I am fully aware that one is treading on cut glass on this issue and no-one wants to be accused of anti-Semitism, but, if it is a question of launching an assault on Syria or Iran... then one has to be candid," he told the Sunday Telegraph.

Mr Dalyell told the newspaper said he believed the prime minister was also indirectly influenced by Jewish people in the Bush administration, including Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Ari Fleischer, the President's press secretary.......

See article...I just love the veiled references to what are here called the catchword 'neo cons'...

A bit OT, but this article could apply to the US just as it does to the UK..here the dhummis are the left, or Labour..and the right ,or Conservatives? The Republicans..Say what you like about Jews

154 Cam  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:11:52pm

#150 Buckaroo:

LOL! I'm actually kinda subdued when I post on LGF. The real me is, as they say, a piece of work.

155 DP111  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:12:11pm

So far these mass murders are happening elsewhere. But this is a preview of what is in store for us, right here in the West. There is no doubt about this; it is mandated as the next phase in the Jihad doctrine.

The main problem is that we have allowed millions of Muslims into the West. Their population is increasing rapidly. It is difficult, if nigh imposible, to differentiate between a Jihadi on a mission and a Muslim, who is for the moment, in a passive mode.

The question then is - WHAT THE HELL ARE WE TO DO?

156 The Other Les  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:13:25pm

# 50

Of course not only have the Palestinian animals attempted to usurp Jewish history, they have stolen the crowd surfing technique from our punk and grunge scene.


Maybe its time for Beavis and Butthead to do Palestine.

Heh, heh. Heh, heh.

157 NuclearTinkerbell  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:14:35pm

#93 xbalanke

What kind of swarm would this be? barbarian swarm? vermin swarm? ... How about simply: evil swarm?

Evil parasite swarm.

158 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:16:21pm

#148 MAr

Since there is no such thing as a 'palestinian', and their place is in Jordan, there is little to no hope they ever can or will be civilized. The hatred of the Jews is in their damaged DNA.

Arik! Build the whole fence, damn it, and do it now. Let the rest of the world scream. It is not anyone's decision to make but Israel's, and the massacre of innocents in Beer Sheba never had to happen.

159 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:16:28pm

Hey these kids need to visit Iran, they're going to need additional fodder: (courtesy Allah) Iran court sentences 16-year-old boy to death

When islam says, 'get down' they mean 6 feet.

160 Sean II  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:19:23pm

#19 Jamie

Please disregard my last rant. I mistook your post as a sarcastic troll like post implying Israel was the cause of the suicide bombings.

161 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:20:21pm

#154 Cam

The real me is, as they say, a piece of work.

Ah, but a piece of work with the heart of a lion!

162 NuclearTinkerbell  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:23:28pm

#138 mrsoc

Please tell me that there will be retribution so quick and startling that they will regret it for hundreds of years to come.
Please tell me that their children and their children's children will NOT be whatever it is they are.
Please tell me that tonight there will be fire and fear falling out of the sky onto their heads.
Please tell me this will stop.
I swear I can't stand it any more.

I wish it would stop too, but it will take an extended power grid failure to get people away from the opium of the television and internet. Without those distractions, the elephant becomes quite obvious.

163 transferthem  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:23:53pm

These pictures tell a story. They tell the story of why transfer of nazi arabs and muslims from Jewish land is the only solution to nazi arab and muslim hatred in the Middle East. Israel can protect its people only by sending the arabs out of Israel, including Gaza, Judea and Samaria, to live where they belong, with other nazi arabs and muslims.

I do believe also that Israel should send its air force to bomb such 'celebrations' by nazi arabs and muslims of loss of innocent Jewish lives. If these subhumans don't value life then their own lives are, by definition, of no value.

164 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:24:19pm
165 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:24:21pm

#21 Ploome Hineni

they really really need to be tranfer or dead

now

I choose dead.

166 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:25:25pm

Amazing juxtaposition, these pictures and the title "The American People Are Inwardly Dead".

Americans are inwardly dead??

Looking at these pictures makes me ashamed to be human being.

There's no one in the world uglier than this. In these pictures is the proof that Muslims proudly teach their children to hate.

167 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:26:34pm
168 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:28:31pm
169 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:30:09pm
170 grayp  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:30:25pm

#155 DP111

WHAT THE HELL ARE WE TO DO?


No more visas from Muslims countries.
Strictly enforce the time-period allowed on current visas.
Personally challenge every Muslim you know, and when they give you the BS about ROP, confront them with taqiyya. In other words, take every opportunity to make every Muslim you know deeply uncomfortable and insulted.
And publicly call bullshit on any 'moderate Muslim' drek. They should have no peace of mind, no peace of place. They should feel hunted and despised.

I'm a good person. I'm just not a nice one.

171 zulubaby  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:30:41pm

ploome hineni, no, Arafat must be eliminated. Completely. No grave, nothing.

172 freedomsound  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:32:36pm

Someday, in the not too distant future, we will see similar scenes take place in parts of Europe. And the Europeans will have themselves to blame for nurturing this evil against Israel all these years. It will come back to haunt them.

173 Albertadude  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:32:39pm

To Jamie ........the dhimmi idiot...

The reason there is terror today you freakin moron is because of those Ancient Arabic texts which you defend!!

Grab a brain and learn to admit when your wrong!!!

There would be no terror if your buddy Muhammed hadn't exampled and written such horrific things 1400 years ago..

174 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:33:41pm
175 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:36:47pm
176 walstib  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:37:00pm

well, it's getting late here "over the green line" so it's off to bed.

let's hope and pray for a better tomorow!

g'night all

177 Cam  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:37:22pm

NY Nana:

((((((((((HUGS))))))))))

178 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:39:25pm

Bigel, taking these pictures into account, I'd say it's time to hit Arafat's compound with a MOAB.

On a day like today (three fucking terrorist attacks!) I start fantasizing about what I would do if I were in charge...

The Palestinians are SOOO lucky that Israelis don't think like Americans.

You know, even modern warfare turns to mass terror if you have to convince the public on the other side to stop supporting the war...

The United States firebombed a hundred (?) Japanese cities to break the people so that they wouldn't face kamikazes during an occupation.

If there was MASSIVE retaliation after every attack, instead of celebrations and candies. Palestinians would lose their taste for war quickly...

But it wouldn't work, you know. If Palestinians stopped sending terrorists, Iran, Syria and all the rest would keep sending them and calling them Palestinians.

So there is no way to end this war, you know.

179 Gruen  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:40:38pm
Europeans are just as psychotic Nazi Jewhaters as the Palestinians.

No they're not bigel, get your facts right.

180 jemima  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:42:04pm

It's in Numbers/Pinchas 25:10. How to deal with the Midianites. If they come at you, you hit them so hard they never come back to hurt you again.

Why can't we deal with this with advice straight out of the Torah?? Where in the Torah does it say we should allow ourselves to be killed?

We are not going to be more disliked than we are already. Accept it and move on. And I mean both Jews and Americans. Why are we wasting time and lives trying to make nice?

181 Jamie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:43:11pm

#143/#160 Sean,

Don't sweat it. Apparently you weren't the only one who took it that way. It seemed so clever at the time...maybe nuance doesn't translate all that well over text, but at least everyone got it in the end.

182 Buckaroo  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:44:22pm

# 178 J

There is a way to end it -- we're discussing it somewhat in the next thread ...

183 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:46:56pm

#167 Bigel

No argument from me..he is a POS.

#169 Ploome

Sharon will have to decide whether to get off the pot, or actually act like he cares.

He has let attack after attack, deaths of innocents by the score, go by and respond by bombing an empty building. Israel did not get to be a model to the world by hiding..and Sharon has done as much damage as peres (may his name be obliterated) and barak, if not more, as he is no peacenik.

Israel is a democracy, and as such, only the Knesset and the PM can decide. Damn it, he is a wimp. Someone took the real Arik and replaced hime with a doppelganger. Why he has managed to survive so many votes of no confidence is beyond my understanding. As long as Israel is perceived as weak, the violence will, G-d forbid, escalate.

Today Moscow and Nepal had a terrible lesson in what the cult of islam can do....the Russians feel it was Chechens, for some odd reason/

I just watched yet again the carnage in Israel, on NBC...seeing the bodies being put on stretchers, the smirking, proud homicide bombers photos, in their traditional gear..and realizing that the fence is not that far south in Israel is infuriating. They also showed the heroic IDF catch a wannabe at a checkpoint. There was a bomb vest attached, and a robot removed it, and it was detonated, thus averting a second disaster.

What I am waiting to see is the Israeli response to this latest atrocity...

What do you suggest?

184 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:47:59pm
185 Gruen  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:50:58pm

#184

Sorry ploome could you translate that or something, I'm not following you.

186 gargamel  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:52:27pm

#101 Kevin P.

That was a good read. Thanks :)

187 gargamel  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:56:31pm

#101 Kevin P.


Email the link to Charles. I think that deserves its own thread:

http://eufunding.org/FPC2004Report.pdf

188 DP111  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 1:57:34pm

170 grayp

I concur.

This war is like no other war before it. It not like WWI or WWII. The nature and objectives of the enemy are completely different. It is not a Clausewitzian war. It is also the different from the Cold War, as Marxism was a rational enemy. Thus none of the prescriptions applied to previous wars, will work. It is above all a peoples war and WE will have to fight as individuals or a group.
The only way to win, is for us, each and every one of us, as individuals or in groups, to take the war to the Jihad. We can do this

1. By writing
2. Informing non-muslims of the immense danger we are in, and the future of Western civilisation.
3. By weakening a Muslim's faith in Islam. Sowing doubts whether they can ever win.
4. By debating with Muslims to get them to weaken their belief. Another advantage, by going on the offensive, it makes Muslims go on the defensive, and unable to bring the the Jihad to you.
5. Muslims have halfway to conceded the superiority of the West, by coming to the West. Remind them of that.

Let no Muslim in the West, feel comfortable that he has us on the run. Make Muslims feel of their dhimmi status in the West and that he has no hope of changing that status.

189 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:02:36pm

Nonviolent protest offers little hope for Palestinians

The arrival in the Middle East of Arun Gandhi, preaching his grandfather Mahatma Gandhi's message of love, brotherhood and nonviolence to conflict-weary Israelis and Palestinians, has raised tentative hopes that the bloody conflict may be entering a more reflective phase.

But few Palestinians are likely to embrace peaceful protest as a way of attaining statehood - not because Palestinians are hellbent on mindless retribution against Israelis, but because nonviolence is unlikely to be effective as a strategy.

At a rally in East Jerusalem on Friday, Gandhi led thousands of Palestinians, including Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei, and a handful of Israeli peace campaigners on a march in opposition to the wall being built across the West Bank. Under the banner "No to violence, yes to peace," the protest and others like it were designed to promote the path of Palestinian peaceful resistance to Israel's military occupation.

The organizers hope Gandhi's presence in the region can convince the world that Israel's military actions in the occupied territories are a form of violence against the Palestinian people that will not bring a solution closer and that the Israeli public is wrong to believe that there is "no partner for peace."

After four wearying years of armed intifada, there are sure to be Palestinians ready to listen to Gandhi's philosophy that nonviolent struggle is the better path. Some observers even suggest that the recent fall in Palestinian attacks is a sign many Palestinians have already reached the same conclusion.

But for most of the 37 years of Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, the Palestinians were nonviolent - and it did them little good. Israel simply entrenched the occupation, illegally moving hundreds of thousands of settlers on to Palestinian land.

Even when Palestinians turned violent in the first intifada of the late 1980s, it was to throw the stones of a David rather than flex the muscles of a Goliath.

The sad truth is that over the last four years, in the second intifada, the Palestinians have learned that there is no necessary correlation between the violence they inflict on Israelis and their own suffering at the hands of Israeli forces. Despite the current lull in attacks on Israelis, Palestinian deaths continue daily.

Palestinians also now understand that violence is the surest way to get their struggle noticed. Bombing buses is immoral, but it makes the front pages, reminding the world that there is a conflict. When Palestinians alone are the victims, the world switches off.

Conversely, when Palestinians adopt peaceful strategies, the news media can barely stifle their yawns. The current hunger strike by Palestinian prisoners protesting the violation of their rights is a case in point. It has utterly failed to ignite international interest, except briefly when the Israeli authorities decided to sizzle kebabs outside cells.

Equally, the dozens of mostly nonviolent protests in the West Bank against the Israeli security wall rarely flicker on to the Western news media's radar. And once the wall is completed, most avenues for peaceful resistance to the occupation will be blocked for good. Neighbors cut off from each other in a series of isolated cantons will be in no position to stage the kind of mass demonstrations needed to bring about change.

The efficacy of nonviolence might look different to Palestinians were they receiving the steadfast support of leftist Israelis. But in reality it is the Israelis, not the Palestinians, who are the missing peace partners......

See rest:vomitrocious

190 big L  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:06:12pm

Are those kids mutants?
Look at their hands. The hands are large and long for the body. something wrong/

Time to send out warning on Pee swarms. Not allowed and will be cleared.
Then drop pig feces and blood on the crowds to disperse them. Hostile ? sure. Effective ? Might be.

191 Mashiki  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:06:53pm

#183 NY Nana: Great posts all in all. :)

What I am waiting to see is the Israeli response to this latest atrocity...

What do you suggest?

Complete obliteration of one their 'refugee' camps, and total displacement of them to another one. Total seizure of the land for Jewish use.

Next bombing, missle attack, attempted terror attack, etc, systemic removal of so many acres of land from the 'disputed' territories along with displacement of those offending people.

So on, and so forth. If I had a choice, I'd say whole-scale deporting right back to Jordan. Oh and vaporization of Arafat.

I'm waiting as well. I don't know what's going to happen tho. I still haven't heard anything going on to help Sderot, yet Sharon said they were going to do something, but the rockets still fall.

192 Haiku  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:21:49pm

#190 big L
The reason these kids look like mutants is probably due to inbreeding. The Arabs almost always marry their first cousins and in many cases marry their siblings. I've read that this is especially prevalent in the Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians." This might explain why these people are violent psychotic murderers, that and Islam!

193 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:27:25pm

#191 Mashiki

Mashiki for PM of Israel!!!!! Seriously, what you propose is exactly what has to be done. Enough! Israelis have the same right to live in freedom as we do.

This, from Foxnews, shows the heroism of the driver of the second bus, who saved a number of lives with his very quick thinking:Israel Bus Bombs Kill 16

......The two buses lay smoldering in the street, their windows blown out, roofs buckled outward, interiors gutted by flames. Forensic workers picked up body parts, including a woman's hand with a silver ring still attached.

One of the bus drivers, Yaakov Cohen, opened his doors and ordered passengers off after hearing the first blast, apparently saving a number of lives.

"I don't know why I thought to open the doors," Cohen told reporters, still dazed, "but at least some of the people were able to escape."

In Hebron, the Israeli army surrounded the homes of the two suspected bombers, Ahmed Qawasmeh and Nasim Jaabari, and questioned their relatives.

In Gaza, thousands of Hamas supports took to the streets to celebrate, with Rantisi's widow, Rasha, calling the attack an "heroic operation" and saying her husband's soul is "happy in heaven."(*ha! 72 very burned raisins where he went)

"The Palestinian interest requires a stop to harming all civilians so as not give Israel pretext to continue its aggression against our people," Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat said in a statement.

In Washington, the State Department brushed aside Arafat's comments and said Hamas must be put out of business. Department spokesman Richard Boucher said action, not words, was needed.

Secretary of State Colin Powell condemned the bombings in a telephone call to Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom.

But Israeli officials Tuesday repeatedly cited the barrier, which the world court at The Hague, Netherlands, recently ruled to be illegal, as the No. 1 reason for the lull in violence.

"What we have learned in the past six months ... is that in the place where there is a fence there is no terror, and where there is no fence there is terror," said Public Security Minister Tzachi Hanegbi.

Several Israeli officials have privately complained that the barrier project has been unnecessarily politicized, saying Israel should have built it closer to the country's pre-1967 frontier. That, they say, would have saved lives by heading off legal challenges that have repeatedly delayed construction of the 425-mile structure.....

see rest of article..a lot has been left out. (* my 2 ¢ worth)

194 JWarrior  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:28:30pm

Let there be Apaches and Hellfire!

195 zulubaby  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:33:35pm
Israel Bus Bombs Kill 16

No, Palestinian mass-murdering savages murder 16 Israelis. I hate the passive voice they use to describe terrorism.

196 Zack  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:34:30pm

Transfer.

To hell.

Not feeling generous.

197 Mashiki  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:40:45pm

#193 NY Nana :

Who knows what ones path is until it's clear? Sometimes it's just like walking in a foggy bank until you rise above it. In all truth and as you said every Israeli has the right to live as we do. The problem is, they will not see it until their enemies are defeated, the government changes it's position as well.

Sometimes I think it's due to the weakness in democracies itself. It makes people self-serving, where they put their 'love of the seat' above the lives of the citizens they should be serving. I don't fully understand how Israel's system works but I've got a fairly good idea.

I think that is a major problem with what is going on with Sharon right now. It's a dangrous problem as well, as it gives others in the party the same thoughts and ideas.

Well we shall see in the end. The article is very intresting as well.

198 bigel[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 2:50:22pm
199 EE  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 3:15:53pm

#195 zulubaby
You are right. The efforts made in headlines to hide the identity of the perps, when Pali terrorists massacre Jews, is a form of concealing the facts, and a kind of lying. Even a lie of omission is a kind of lie. A lie of concealment is also a lie.

In this case, the massacres were carried out by the Hamas genocide machine. They don't need any reason or excuse to murder Jews. That's what they do.

We have seen France, and the Euros as a bloc in the UN, and almost the whole UN, demand that Israel has no right to protect itself, no right to protect its children, no right to a defense. Israel has no choice but to defend itself, and to go after the terrorists, even if France and the Euros don't like it and want Israel to be defeated by terrorism.

200 genard  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 3:21:57pm

The really hopeful thing about these pictures is that the parent thugs teaching thuggery to the next generation will speed the self destruction of their society. In short time these kids will kill their parents and neighbors if they can't get at the Israelis.

Israel loses only if the enemy outbreeds them; they win if the enemy kills itself.

Before this intifadah, before the idiocy of Oslo, the Israelis were slowly smothering the Palestinian hope. Israel was about to win. After the hudna years during the Clinton "negotiations," and for a while with the resumption of the latest intifadah the Palestinians regained some hope. But that is slowly being squeezed out of them. In that respect the fence is like a cobra.

What you are looking at with those little baby boomers is the manifestation of Palestinian social suicide.

201 zulubaby  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 3:25:20pm

EE (#199)

They don't need any reason or excuse to murder Jews. That's what they do.

That's a separate point but an important one. The terrorists feed the "retaliation" line to the media who in turn feed it to the world and so it goes. It's an outright lie, pure propaganda. Read the Hamas Charter. That's all you need to know about these lunatics.

202 Ms. Andi  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 3:43:55pm

I just don't feel sorry for the little brats anymore. They're a lost cause, brainwashed beyond repair. I just don't care what happens to them. All I care is that they fail in their missions to kill Jews.

May thousands of "work accidents" be upon them.

203 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 4:15:22pm
204 zulubaby  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 4:18:01pm

ploome,

why are these things alive?

There's no explanation for it. None.

205 DP111  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 4:23:09pm

202 Ms Andi

I just don't feel sorry for the little brats anymore. They're a lost cause, brainwashed beyond repair.

I also feel that they are brainwashed beyond repair. However such a condition can be regarded as mental disability of the worst kind. We in the West do not hold the mentally disabled as responsible for their actions.

So just as an excercise, what would you do?

206 yellowroseoftexas  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 4:39:14pm

Rantissis widow praised the "heroic martyrdon operation" and said her husband's soul was happy in heaven[he's really in hell].These people are so deranged.I am just sickened by all the cruelty,hatred,and evil of these muslim fanatics.

207 Mycroft  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 5:04:35pm

Caption from one of the pictures:

[quote]A Palestinian boy holds a toy gun and Muslim holly book Koran as Hamas supporters celebrate...[/quote]

I see this a lot, pictures of Palestinian kids with "toy guns."

They don't look like toys. Ever. They look real.

Am I wrong? Do they just make very realistic toy guns in Gaza? Or is the media lying by labeling them as toys when they are not?

208 Truth Dr.  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 5:50:09pm

Canadian Parliamentarian Carolyn Parrish unplugged:

[Link: weekly.ahram.org.eg...]

209 Truth Dr.  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 5:52:27pm

More on Carolyn Parrish, Bill Graham and other Canadian Parliamentarians:

[Link: www.canadiancoalition.com...]

210 Truth Dr.  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 6:01:18pm

Here's a convenient list of Canadian terror suspects and those who support them like Ed Broadbent and the Canaidan Union of Postal Workers;

[Link: www.zerra.net...]

211 Jamie  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 6:22:29pm

#173 AlbertaZundel,

This one is priceless:

Grab a brain and learn to admit when your wrong!!!

If you're going to cast aspersions on my intellect, shouldn't you at least try to use proper English (your v. you're) when doing so? Or did you forget to "[g]rab a brain"? You've provided one of the only examples when it is appropriate to make fun of one's grammar. You're just a glutton for punishment, aren't you?

212 NuclearTinkerbell  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 6:38:32pm

NY Nana got me thinking about parasites (she offered parasitic wasps, I think, as an analogy to the Muslim presence in the US).

In my line of work, I see good dogs and really bad dogs. Genetics plays a part in temperament but nurture is far more important in terms of affecting aggression.

For example, pit bulls, the original national dog of the United States, is a wonderful family pet, exhibits silly humor, yet is tenacious and brave. No dog could be more loyal to their owners and family. A well socialized pit bull should be able to be trusted with a strange baby in a stress filled environment without too much distress.

Pit bulls who have been used improperly, either through baiting, and dog sport fighting, or forcing him to live as a junk yard dog, these conditions are much harder to turn around in order to regain a pet. The younger the dog begins 'treatment', the greater degree of failure you can expect in reclaiming a pet. In fact, don't bother. They are lost...just like these kids.

Some dogs get really run down and hang dog. They don't act right. A Stool sample reveals a terrible infestation of hookworms, and coccidia, and giardia, as well as an Echinococus tape worm in her brian. So you get the meds in her and after a few weeks of vomiting worms strait from the lungs to my carpet, voila. Oh Well. She feels fine now and has much more energy. Without the parasite load, the free organism regains its health. Just like the free world will regain its health when we get rid of civilization's parasites.

The body has rejected the parasites. We were not very aware of our own passenger parasites until 9-11, and we all choked on a worm. But what to do, you ask, about our Islamic parasites? They contribute nothing and pray everyday for a domestic change in the law that would facilitate the seizure of Kufir things. They obliterate their hosts and demand yet more. The parasite will fail without a host. Walk out of every 7-11 with a muslim there. Ask your HMO's for non muslim doctors. Explain why. Tell them that they must leave, reform, or perish. Walk away from every muslim you see. Thank them for visiting and ask for their departure date.

213 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 7:12:32pm

NuclearTinkerbell, uhm dudette?

Tell them that they must leave, reform, or perish.


While I strongly believe in putting pressure on Muslims to reform, I don't think threatening every Muslim I meet is going to reform anyone... Western values have a lot to offer. Freedom (as an example of a western value) implies freedom from the many horrors that Muslim fascists visit on their own societies.

Ideas can change a whole society pretty quickly... I think they should be your weapon of choice, not growls and dirty looks.

214 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 7:47:12pm

#197 Mashiki

Thank you.

We will be leaving very early in the AM to go take care of our 4 year old granddaughter, in LI...our daughter in law's Dad was rushed to the hospital, and he has too many things wrong. He is one of the nicest men we have ever known. And her Mum? She and her husband are the kind of in laws I would wish that anyone's children have.

We are so upset, and we may be going out again Thursday and Friday, also. Their apartment really is too small for us to stay, so we will just go back, and please pray for this wonderful man...my husband and I were crying when we got off the phone.

I was on the phone last night with her Mum last night, as we were discussing the menus for Rosh HaShanah, so we make different things each night, as we take turns as to when our married kids go to their inlaws the first night, and this year we get the both grandkids...we were joking about the granddaughter we all adore so much, and now? They are our machutenim...we are part of each others' families, and this hurts so much...they are married for 51 years, and their older granddaughter is in her 3d year of university....she just left last week, and their grandson is in his first year...now this happens....

I hope that we have better news later. He is still in the ER, in the hall..no bed, at a major medical center. on LI. Unreal, but all too common.

215 newsonterr  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 8:47:21pm

The ONE and ONLY way to respond is to start using helicopter gunships to strafe such gatherings and the funeral processions. For each Israeli citizen murdered, Israel should make one thousand Palestinains pay with their lives.

All Palestinians whether holding a gun or not are criminals and are an enemy of Israel. Remember there are no innocents in a criminal community.

Only when Israel does this can the terror be answered in the language of blood and death which is the only language the terrorists understand.

newsonterror.com

216 happycynic  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 8:58:10pm

#188 DP111

"1. By writing
2. Informing non-muslims of the immense danger we are in, and the future of Western civilisation.
3. By weakening a Muslim's faith in Islam. Sowing doubts whether they can ever win.
4. By debating with Muslims to get them to weaken their belief. Another advantage, by going on the offensive, it makes Muslims go on the defensive, and unable to bring the the Jihad to you.
5. Muslims have halfway to conceded the superiority of the West, by coming to the West. Remind them of that."

That's too hard, let's just nuke Mecca and prove to these parasites that their "god" was nothing more than the raving of a mad pedophile.

217 NuclearTinkerbell  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 9:19:36pm

#213 Joshua
I don't think threatening is right, either. A clear explanation of Islam's choices should be offered, though, out of fairness.

The less hospitable we are, the fewer minarets and sleeper cells we will have to deal with.

The idea of freedom just doesn't seem to be catching on with them. They want the things that freedom can produce, but they want to control the producers.

Yeah, I'm a dudette.
:)

218 NuclearTinkerbell  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 9:24:05pm

Hi NY Nana

I just read your post. My prayers are with you and your extended family. What a terrible day! I hope tomorrow is better. :(

Stay well.

219 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Tue, Aug 31, 2004 11:09:48pm

#217 NuclearTinkerbell 8/31/2004 11:19PM PST

The idea of freedom just doesn't seem to be catching on with them. They want the things that freedom can produce, but they want to control the producers.

True.

Still the idea of freedom is powerful and the arguements for it are pretty irrefutable. And Muslims are so misinformed. Arguing with them is shooting fish in a barrel.

The Palestinian cause for instance... All of the countries around Israel have literally massacred tens of thousands of Palestinians - Israel is the only country that hasn't. They all keep Palestinians in refugee camps for generations instead of letting them naturalize. That's some love Muslims have for their Palestian brothers isn't it? I could go on and on about Arafat etc... Anyway they have some nerve acting as if Israel is the main oppressor of the Palestinians... If the the Israelis magically disappeared tomorrow, the Palestinians would still be living in a terror/police state. Only then they'd have civil war over whether religious facists or secular facists would get to make everyone's life hell. Oh and then Hamas would make good on their pledge to "fight until the whole universe is under the flag of Islam" and come after us. That would be some improvement huh?

And all of their sense of current events and history is like that. Its all lies from beginning to end. All designed to whip up xenophobia so that a bunch of fascist leaders and a bunch of thugs posing as clerics don't have to worry about their surfs getting any uppity ideas from the infidels.

...

When everything someone knows is wrong, the best weapon is information.

220 RickZ  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 2:52:56am

I find it ironic that the only people who protest a terrorist's premature demise, by 'protesting' in the streets, are the same people who joyfully celebrate the murder of innocent bus riders, by taking the party to the streets. I guess the nuance of these convergent facts is too obtuse for the majority of 'journalists' to comprehend. Besides, that would require moral clarity, something not taught in journalism school today, a place where moral ambiguity rules. The traditional 'who, what, when, where, and why' of true journalism has been replaced by a lousy, off-key rendition of "Feelings."

221 D.C. Watson  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 3:43:25am

They're only "Terrorists" if they succeed in intimidating us.

With the sites I document on, LGF included, I see no fear, but absolute outrage. Thus, these pigs have been unsuccessful at instilling fear in us. They've done nothing but piss us off.

They're no more than brutal, racist, murderous alley thugs that understand nothing but power. Sum this up, and justification in cuttng them off at the knees is more than apparent.

President Bush needs to stop labeling these animals as "terrorists", especially the sleeper cell backbiters that still linger in the U.S.......He should be calling them Targets, because Americans will send them to their false God, their Idol, Allah- once we root them out.

With 80 million gun owners in this country, there aren't many of them that don't hope to one day give these pricks a new leak.

Since they have no regard for human life, this will make them happy. Disappointment is coming their way though, as their promised 72 virgins will look like Michael Moore, Whoopi Goldberg, and worst of all: Teresa Heinz Kerry.

222 EE  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 3:57:14am

What makes the Palis happy is the massacre of Jews; what makes them unhappy -- they say that they are "humiliated", or inconvenienced, or insulted, or whatever -- are efforts by the Jews to protect themselves, to defend themselves.

The state of mind of the Palis should be disqualified as something that drives policy. Allowing it to drive policy is the same as preventing Israel from defending itself -- which is what European policy amounts to.

The Euros want the Palis to be happy, so that their own rapidly growing Muslim minority will not riot. And so that their business partners in Eurabia will be happy. And so that their own holocaust-inverting population will be happy. And so that they can buy some time with the Islamist crocodile, they think.

That's why the Euros try every trick to try to prevent Israel from defending itself, whether by building a fence to shield its children from Islamikazi splodeydopes, or by swatting down the terrorists.

Another reason that the Euros take this tack is because they can better trap the US by such a position, and better rival the US politically. They know that such a stance will not stand with the US, which does not support the destruction of Israel. The better to garner political capital from the rest of the Arab world, the Muslim world, and others, the Euros calculate.

The Euros definitely do not want Israel to defend itself.

Watch how the Euros rush in to condemn any effort Israel makes to defend itself. Especially if it promises to be an effective defense, which really gets the Euros upset.

223 JamesW  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 4:13:14am

RE: #29, Snopes-
Two possible sources. First is COnnor Cruise O`Brien's 'The Seige'. The second is any relevant historical atlas by Martin Gilbert.

224 applesweet  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 4:32:08am

A poster at sometime ago posted, needed is a Star Chamber.

Right now.

225 Preston Taylor Holmes  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 5:02:58am

Ariel Sharon needs to get that fence up and electrified quick. Even further, I recommend a very tall, air-tight, circular, concrete fence around the palestinians. Then fill it with water.

226 golani  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 5:42:59am

Deport them to palestinian kingdom of jordan

227 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 11:35:00am

#220 RickZ 9/1/2004 04:52AM PST

The traditional 'who, what, when, where, and why' of true journalism has been replaced by a lousy, off-key rendition of "Feelings."

That's because, in totalitarian states like Palestine, its much cheaper and safer to let the rulers pick the "journalists". Ie we no have no honest journalists in Israel/Palesine, the commercial press has outsourced to Arafat's yellow press. Then journalist's in our own country are chosen on the basis of being stupid or careless enough to market this cheap, fraudlent product as if it was real news.


Anyway focusing on a group's "feelings" has always been a propaganda technique that allows a journalist to avoid relevent facts like, "what do they think" and "why".

228 Herschel Ben Yehuda  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 1:11:37pm

"WE ARE VERY LUCKY ARABS" "I am a lucky Arab. My grandfather, Mohammed,
traveled on foot from his home in Iraq in the early part of the last century
looking for work.

"Jews had come to British-controlled Palestine in the thousands, joining the
Jews who had always been here, buying up land from absentee Turkish Muslim
owners, and they needed many workers to help them build the land. He married,
raised a large family, worked hard, and lived quietly.

"I live in Haifa in Israel. In 1948 when Israel declared its independence,
Arab armies from surrounding Arab states attacked with the intention of
destroying the new state. I was about 15 years old and remember well the radio
broadcasts from Arab states telling us to leave our homes and move eastward
'temporarily' while the advancing Arab armies wiped out the Jews. They told us we would
then return in triumph to our homes and would have the joy of taking over all
the Jewish assets-their homes, farms, shops, cars, and bank accounts.

"My father, Ibrahim, was a very wise man, a learned man, and a man of peace.
We had good relationships with our neighbors, Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
He gathered the entire family and explained why he did not believe it wise to
flee, that he did not believe the Jews would mistreat us. We stayed put. We are
still here.

"Today, I still live in my father's old stone house with my wife and the
youngest of our eight children. My older children and my many grandchildren all
live nearby. We have never been mistreated, and we are much better off than
those Arabs who fled and who ended up in miserable refugee camps being supported
by the United Nations and charities.

"I want you to know what my life is like as an Arab citizen of Israel. I was
educated in Israeli schools and universities. I became a pharmacist and worked
in a large pharmacy in Haifa. I was paid the same salary and received the
same benefits as Jewish colleagues. Now I'm retired. I receive two pensions; one
based on the investment plan to which my company belonged and I contributed.
The other comes from the Israeli government's National Insurance plan.

"I have eight children. Every month I received a child allowance paid by the
government until each became 18. I know of no other country where this
happens, certainly not any Arab nation.

"Our entire family is covered by the National Health Plan, which provides
good medical care. All my children were born in a hospital; my wife received
excellent prenatal and postnatal care. All medical and surgical [expenses are]
covered from the first shekel from birth to death, and when we die, even the cost
of burial is covered!

"My children went to school with Jewish children, they were members of the
same sports clubs and the community center, and they all received university
educations, some with state scholarships.

"I pray in a mosque, which was built on land donated by the Jewish National
Fund. I am a citizen, I have a passport, and can travel anywhere, anytime. I
vote in local and national elections, and we have a number of Arab members in
the Knesset [Parliament].

"I have a very good life, and so has my family. I feel for those forced to
live under [Yasser] Arafat, for they are being used and abused badly. I long for
the day that Arafat is no more, that a real peace treaty can be negotiated
with Israel, so that the Palestinian Arabs can have a better life also.

"I long for the day I can travel to visit cousins in Ramallah without fear of
being called a collaborator and executed. I thank Allah my grandfather came
here. I thank Allah my father didn't leave in 1948. I thank Allah my children
were raised here, in the only free country in the Middle East.

"We are very lucky Arabs.

(Author's name withheld for security reasons, distributed by Naomi Ragen,
August 15, 2004)

229 Rose  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 10:38:45pm

The Americans and all her real allies must henceforth cease any more funding to the 'Palestinians' also no further funding to any Muslim country that has oil and Russia needs to work with us here- no money for arms no further study grants ZILCH ZERO and all funding for military increased with a massive US base in Israel and in the WEST BANK and as Theresa said before she was gobsmacked- shove it- you're with us or you aint-your choice ME

I too am a 'good person' and hate totally what the Islamofascists have made me feel- we have tasted freedom for too long and become soft and complacent and if any doubt about what to expect read [Link: www.frontpagemagazine.com...] and see how Al Sadr has dealt with those who support the coalition- read also about Abu ghraib-perhaps Lindy England and co should be given a medal and promoted.

From the beginning I have been on my own here, in not condemning her and the treatment of the prisoners held there.

Who ever the low life was to leak those photos needs a bullet and that is being very kind indeed.

Those prisoners freed are no doubt reponsible for the kidnappings , beheading and shooting of the hostages and all the deaths of any American soldier can be laid at the door of that bastard -I hope he suffers to the end of his or her days.

Do the wimps who scream out in protest re Abu Ghraib raise their same raucous voices at the outrage in Darfor or the inhumanity of Moctadr al Sadr or those in French Gaols- no just the evil Americans and Israelis.

How long before they worry about Saddams welfare ?????

I pray each night that for every American and coalition soldier's death that the traiters suffer a thousand years in hell
God Bless you America

230 zulubaby  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 10:56:14pm

Herschel Ben Yehuda, that is amazing. I hope everyone reads it. Thanks for posting that.

231 zulubaby  Wed, Sep 1, 2004 11:04:03pm

Rose, thank you, and bless you and yours too.

232 andrew2  Thu, Sep 2, 2004 1:28:09am

#221 DC Watson

As always, you are able to sum it all up and with a flair of much needed humor. I especially like the part about the virgins that was was pretty funny!


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