most book store workers are uh, hippy English majors who want to 'change the world'

Free speech is for Liberals only...

I would think that publishers could sue a company for breach of contract, if nothing else.

My first FIRST! :-)

Bookburning Liberals for Kerry

Can you say....LGF-alanche?

I couldn't get through to the linked Borders site. I think they are experiencing an lizardlanche.

POOF!

I had a terrible time finding it at Barnes and Noble here.
Finally it got too popular for them to hide it, and it's for sale now. But I still can't find it at Waldenbooks.

Can you say....LGF-alanche?

My thoughts exactly

Time to shop at B&N instead.

Guess I won't be shopping at Borders anymore....

Dang, purple fury beat me to the punch!

The hypocrasy is absolutely staggering. Can you imagine if someone pulled this stunt on that bloated corpse widely known as Mickey Moore? They would have got apesh-t.

Maybe you should link to your copy .....

This should come as no surprise to anyone who has ever ventured into a Borders

Just "carelessly" hide the boxes, "accidentally" drop them off pallets, "forget" to stock the ones you have, and then suggest a nice Al Franken or Micheal Moore book as a substitute. Borders wants those recommends, remember?

I don't care if these Neandertals in fancy suits get mad at me, they aren't regular customers anyway. Other than "Left Behind" books, they don't read. Anything you can do to make them feel unwelcome is only fair. They are the people pushing retailers to cut costs, don't forget. And they would censor your speech, your books, your music in a heartbeat, so give them a taste of it!

The hypocricy of the LLL is astounding.

PINMF!
Please forgive my horrid spelling.

< /obvious >

I still remember the brief look of scorn I got when I asked for a copy of The Skeptical Environmentalist at Barnes & Noble a couple of years ago. At least it was actually on the shelf.

hmm, I was planning on buying it. Should I go to Borders just to piss them off, or to Barnes & Noble, or just order it on Amazon?

People shouldn't read the Swift Vet book, or any books for that matter. Books give people ideas.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

....but the Kitty Kelley book is displayed in stacks, 'cause, you know, it is so credible...

In Manhattan, conservative books are not placed on front tables, but must be sought out on back shelves at virtually all stores. Table-stocking is normally a decision left at the lowest level of store employee -- to English majors working ther until they figure out their next step.

The weirdest one I've found was that "Unfit for Command", the highest selling book in America was not on the front tables at the Union Square B&N. It was not even on the front tables in the 4th floor current events section. It was however on the shelf in the far corner of the fourth (and top) floor behind the reading alcove chairs.

However, as injustices go, this one is small potatoes.

TO: Charles Johnson
RE: I Think...

...you've generated a DOS attack here. I can't get in to the cited site. It seems to be 'busy' or maybe they've already taken down the discussion.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

...and it's down, no doubt innundated by swarms of lizardoids. Charles, can you post a link to your local copy?

Charles (or anyone else), I'll gladly host the file. Send it to my gmail address unless it's over five megs, in which case send me an url.

...and liberals call conservatives fascist...

Free* speech!!

* -- Offer not valid in red states, for Republicans, or if liberals disagree with what you say.

#19 amyc

hmm, I was planning on buying it. Should I go to Borders just to piss them off, or to Barnes & Noble, or just order it on Amazon?

Yes.

*sigh* Freedom of Speech...

TO: Purple Fury
RE: It's SOMETHING

"Can you say....LGF-alanche?" -- Purple Fury

More like a lizard attack, as in at Madison Square Garden in Godzilla.

There's some imagery for you....

Regards,

Chuck(le)

Oops -- I only got the first page of the discussion. I just posted an excerpt.

Meh. Just another reason (if you really needed one) to buy your books at Amazon. Barnes and Noble is (slightly) better, but it's still a LLL stronghold. It's not so surprising, really -- these kinds of jobs really attract the liberal arts/women's studies/multi-culti majors (or greying hippies).

FWIW, the Borders I go to, in Pleasant Hill, CA, has a sign on their info desk saying something like: "Unfit for Command is one of our most popular titles and we are having trouble keeping it in stock. You may have to place an advance order if you want this book."

Which may or may not fit into the Borders SODA* story line, but it definitely indicates that they are getting a lot of requests for the book.

*squishing of dissent again

I think it is clear that we need to close the Borders, or at least guard them a little better.

Makes me want to buy it at Borders even tho I have to drive 100 miles to do that.

Shana tova everyone!

but the Kitty Kelley book is displayed in stacks, 'cause, you know, it is so credible...

Saw that last night at a Borders. First thing you see when coming in.

B&N is very balanced. Or at least the ones around here.

For those Twin Cities people on the list, Bound To Be Read on Grand Avenue is also balanced (and a locally owned store). Kind of a surprise considering the neighborhood.

I used to live near a Boarders Bookstore in Knoxville. They were always sponsoring some group of leftists having a meeting or speaker. It was rather nauseating. (I went to Barnes and Nobles instead).

Iraq: Threat to bomb universities if women study with men

And they would censor your speech, your books, your music in a heartbeat, so give them a taste of it!

Damn, that's rich.

Has anyone sent this to Border's management yet?

I think a link to this thread should be included, explaining the amount of coverage this is goiing to be getting, using as an example, the RatherGate publicity that the pajama clad bloggers have generated.

Glad I'm a B&N customer or I'd be miffed!
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The stupidity is staggering. If your side's argument can only win out on an unlevel playing field (only anti-Bush books can be sold, anti-Kerry books must be hidden) then your side doesn't have too much going for it.

I consider myself a reaonable person, who might sometimes vote Repub, sometimes vote Democrat. But, just to not be aligned with these and other moonbats, I can't picture myself voting less than 95% Repub in the near future.

These idiots think they're making a courageous blow with their actions, but they're just feeding their own self-importance, and ultimately hurting their cause.

And it is the VRWC and its evil lackeys who stifle free speech under the bootheels of the Patriot Act and other noxious ploys.

Sure. Right. NOT.

Talk about dishonest, noxious, underhanded ploys to supress someone's right to read what they want.

Someone get a DNA test done on these tools. I can not believe they are related in any way to a real human being.

I caught it on the other thread before we hit it en masse and sent them a little something. Nothing worth posting really just to the point. I provided a link to the discussion for their enjoyment.

What is up with leftists always using slurs which they impute on others? I've never heard anyone say "commie fag." Conservatives or classical liberals being called "Nazi, racist, bigot, etc." actually happens. I like "Withrow." He made sense, pierced, tatooed, and leftist though he may be.

The next thing you know when Borders Closes becuase everyone is going elsewhere they will blame it on the 'Vast Right Wing Conspiracy'

The Democrats on worse enemy, are themselves.

IMPLODING!!!

TO: Lawrence Schmerel
RE: Borders at Park Meadows (Denver)

"I used to live near a Boarders Bookstore in Knoxville. They were always sponsoring some group of leftists having a meeting or speaker." -- Lawrence Schmerel

Used to frequent the store mentioned above, before I moved out of that town. Didn't have that sort of experience there.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

 
#19 amyc
hmm, I was planning on buying it. Should I go to Borders just to piss them off, or to Barnes & Noble, or just order it on Amazon?

Note that if you go to borders.com, they are powered by Amazon's storefront technology. I think Amazon might need to hear about this as well...

#32

Doesn't Amazon handle all of Borders' online sales now?

Also seems to me like this is an issue with the union, not the company itself. Perhaps we should be making the directors aware of what their stockboys are up to.

Anyone know who to write to?

[Link: www.bordersgroupinc.com...]

I heard about similar efforts against a book from a while back called The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS. Not PC by a long shot.

But I live in Ann Arbor, original home of Borders. As a child I went there when it was the only Borders on the planet. I went to the downtown Ann Arbor store a few days ago and the book was not ENTHUSIASTICALLY displayed, but it was there, in the bestselling hardbacks section.

Jesus, you should have seen when I was in Borders the other day to buy Road to Serfdom. I was in the political section, and at first I thought that it was broken into "left-wing" and "right-wing" literature, and that I was in the "left-wing" side. I couldn't believe how slanted it was.

Every left-wing book, especially Bill Clinton's, was clearly displayed. I didn't even see Unfit for Command.

Holy Smokes! Unbelievable is all I can say.

I can't access the site though but from what others have posted here it is bizarre to say the least.

Shouldn't Borders be a target for window crashing anti-globalization nuts, not a place where they work?

IIRC, Borders qualifies since they sell latte and bankrupt locally owned businesses.

Hey, has anybody ever been able to find "Juggs" magazine at Borders? I haven't. To me, that defines real censorship.

bookitup - Sep 15, 2004 - 11:37 AM

One more post... I suggest temporarlity closing registration as the "freepers" (as they are called) are registering here in order to disrupt.

Free speech fearlessly protected by bookstore employees.

Makes ya proud to be an American doesn't it?

May I make a suggestion? BAM! I was in one of their stores here last week and they had it out front (and on sale) with the best sellers.

#53--

Oh, yeah, BIG displays of political books, over 90% one way, sure.

And they would censor your speech

Dont you see your own hypocrisy A**HOLE!!!! You are suggesting suppressing the speech in the UFC book by hiding or losing it.

Also, I find it very typical of a LLL to throw this in.

Anything you can do to make them feel unwelcome is only fair.

How compassionate of them, how tolerant of other viewpoints.....what a crock the left has become.

Someone wrote in here the other day, "Choose your enemies carefully, because that is what you become". The left has always railed against Fascism starting in the hippy days and all the way up until today (while of them most couldnt even define it for you) yet today they tear down signs, threaten and shout down PW protestors in NY, try to get the Unfit book banned, try to suppress ANY speech they happen to disagree with as HATE SPEECH.

Dont they see that they have become what they say they despise??

#32

I get my books, CDs, etc. from Amazon most of the time. Good price, good service, free shipping.

Don't forget, though, that Amazon dropped their moderating of reviews for Unfit for Command, but not for any of the Bush-Bashing Books...

I'm afraid none of the big booksellers are immune from BDS.

OT

Isn't CBS about an hour and a half late?...tap..tap..tap..

If people think that the book is perpetually out of stock, it'll appear to be more popular than it already is, demand will rise and customers will go home and buy it from Amazon.

If someone wants 'Unfit for Command,' do these dingbats really think they can sell them Michael Moore? Please.

They don't understand supply and demand, they don't understand sales - whatever they're being paid, it's too much. I wonder if the "Neandertals in fancy suits" who sign their paychecks know about this?

Oh, yeah, BIG displays of political books, over 90% one way, sure.

That's my complant. I like the stores, nice music selection, good locations, etc.

But it's what they feature on endcaps and in the front. Almost soley lefty hate books (ie Mikey Moore).

Be fair, I just read the posts on that sight. That was the only venomous one, and he was fairly quickly shot-down as being unethical.

I still hope he's fired of course.

The downtown Ann Arbor store was picketed last winter because the workes wanted a better contract than other Borders stores. When I walked out with a bag of books, one old lady in the picket said "Shame on you!" I called her a socialist and kept walking. It's just not worth arguing with them.

don't get mad, get even

OK.
BTW, the site is back up. Threads are still there. And yes, Rosh, I made an archive of each page. First .html, and now working on .pdf.

If they disappear the thing, I'll think about posting it. Staying non-partisan this year is getting harder and harder all the time....

Ideas for new commercial:

"Borders: Our Employees Know What's Best For You"

"Nobody Hides Books Better Than Borders"

"Borders and CBS: Perfect Together."

Excerpt:

I am in NC (not saying which city for obvious reasons!). I have no problem telling a customer that Unfit For Command is not in. When in fact, it is hidden in our store. Hidden very well, I might add. Snicker, snicker.

I cannot in good conscience sell this libelous rant to anyone.

-- 'bookitup' Sep 15, 2004 - 11:36 AM

If you can't get there, google it.....

[Link: ishop.wordsworth.com...]

Wordsworth in Harvard Square, Cambridge is a first rate bookstore. The owner took a lot of flak from Arab groups for prominently displaying pro-Israel books; at one point he was the target of a Muslim boycott and picketting.

They have great discounts on new books too. Check it out.

A few weeks ago, I mentioned that I was going to go down to Powell's to get a copy of "Unfit".

I went to the information desk to ask about the book, saying it was "a book about Kerry, titled 'Unfit for Command'".

"You sure it's not a book about Bush?" the young clerk cleverly replied.

You know, this kind of nonsense dosen't do anything to help the image of the world's largest brick-and-mortar bookstore, and neither does the open partisanship of their selection of election-related books. Granted, Portland is on the Left Coast, but I expect better from my local bookstore.

Just buy the book directly from the publisher Regnery.com... :)

Looks like it's really just one poster who advocates this behaviour. Maybe they have their own Gordon.

Snips of some of the other posts:

really, really disagree with this point of view. Booksellers have an ethical obligation IMO to present different points of view and not get in the way of freedom of speech. What you're suggesting is a form of censorship, only worse, because you're not being up front about it.

Without a doubt...it's much better not to validate them by playing into their little paranoid fantasies. We've already got enough trouble in my store with customers spitting on the Clinton books, etc....

LOL!

I don't support us doing anything but trying to get the book for customers. Franky that's acting too much like them. And they'd love nothing more than to catch us at it and "prove" that their paranoid ideas are correct.

etc. They're a bunch of libs, but is sounds like there is only one who is actually trying to stop folks from getting this book.

I cannot comprehend why anyone would commit this kind of thing to an email, webpage, or other such media (even paper). Do we have verification on the provenance of the message?

Not only does it look bad, but it shows the ignorance of those who made such pronouncements as though they thought they could get away with this without any repercussions.

I was never a Borders fan - worked at a B&N while in college, but this just cements where my book buying money is definitely not going.

This may also have some other interesting effects - namely the veracity of the best sellers lists and the volume of scanned copies nationwide. If a major bookseller's employees are working to deny access to a book, it could have grave consequences for the publishing companies who earn revenue from the book sales, as well as the bookseller themselves.

OK, I'm posting out of subject but I wanted to post this clip from today's WSJ. To all our Hebrew Zionist Conspirators, Happy New Year!

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One might have imagined that we Israelis, after having endured more than four years of brutal terrorist attacks carried out by Palestinians, would have become immune to the horrific tragedy that unfolded in Beslan. Indeed, the televised scenes of the tiny coffins and grieving families seem far too familiar, just as the boilerplate speeches of the politicians and standard condemnations by world bodies feels like the routine drill. Yet the fact that we still find ourselves distraught, and can so readily identify with the suffering of the Russian victims, shows that the world today is divided into two distinct camps -- the first which seeks to affirm life, the second hell bent on avowing vengeance, martyrdom and death regardless of its victims.

In 1974, as a newly elected Knesset member, I watched the terrorist assault on a school in Ma'alot as it played out along Israel's northern border. Palestinian gunmen, ironically from a PLO faction funded by the Russians, infiltrated a high school and took dozens of students hostage. Before the army could free the children, the terrorists managed to kill 26 of them. At the time, the idea that a ruthless terrorist could deliberately murder Israeli children seemed almost beyond even our belief. What sort of desperate animals, we demanded, seek to advance their political agendas by slaughtering children? Surely the international order would insist that all the culprits be hunted down and punished.

But the world voiced only silence, and business went on as usual. Israelis were forced to learn that our tragedies were always going to be personal affairs, and that there would be no united international response to terror. Indeed, the democratic states in Europe provided the first cracks in the front, insisting on maintaining relations with the PLO after Ma'alot while accepting that there were no real consequences when it comes to Arab terror.

I read this on boredunions.scum!

"WHEREAS, One of the hallmarks of all the Borders Bookstores both here and throughout the country, is that all booksellers must pass a literature
proficiency testbefore being hired, thus assuring a high quality of sales staff;

This is the test. All employees must be able to read and copy 1 page in under 5 days.
30 percent is a pass

Over at the Borders site, RTAtlanta posted this:

At our store, we are having a lot of people walkinh in wearing their pajamas and wanting to buy Unfit For Command..Does anyone know if there is a "no pajamas in store rule"?..

LOL

All this is exactly what I mean when I say:

REDFASCISTS.

If it would ever be discovered that any conservative or neocon behaves like that , the redfascists would scream up to the doors of Heavens, would write thousands of columns, tens of books, would make movies about it.

But they...they are allowed to do anything, they are the righteous ones, they know the secret and hidden truth of history and philosophy, of religion and of not-religion, they are allowed to do anything for the future glory of their idol of wood and stone, their socialism.
Why that ? By golly, they have read the works of Karl Marx, they KNOW what the TRUTH is.
No matter that one hundred and fifty years of history have shown that the left is as mad and dangerous as the nazis. They still have the TRUTH, despite the little detail of the hundreds of millions they have masscred all over the world, despite the failure of their every idea, they still KNOW the TRUTH.

REDFASCISTS.

Remember, Borders is owned by KMart, along with Waldenbooks.

Hmmmm...it's going to be tough for me to boycott KMart, since I never buy anything from them in the first place.

First of all, how could you possible trust a person who's name is Kitty? What's next: Poopie? or Hottie? or Princess?

Second, I suggest going to Borders, taking out a wad of gum, and going through the LLL section, putting gum between the pages (ofcourse, so the cameras won't see, you can take these books and pretend that you read them in the lounge, gumming the pages shut. Takes only several pieces to fuck them up. To my entertainment, the Al Frankenstein's creation was filled with wads of gum before some fat loser bought it in front of us)

Remember, now Charles can call an MSM outlet and say he has something, and they will listen.

Charles? Find out if anybody at Fox News wants to roast the Borders' employee union a new one. Maybe they can use some of that air time they saved for CBS' now-delayed announcement. :)

And they would censor your speech, your books, your music in a heartbeat, so give them a taste of it!

Classic.

I checked the inventory of my local Borders (at [Link: www.bordersstores.com)...] and they're listing the book as available.

If I go in there to buy it, they'll know better than to screw with me or there'll be another incident - like the time I wanted Schopenhauer's The World as Will and Idea and they tried to tell me there was no such book.

Who needs bookstores? Shop at Amazon.

#82--

That's property destruction. Don't do it.

A good rebuttal from another poster called classical-liberal:

Pardon me for mentioning this, but 'takahashi' seems to indicate that at least some Borders people ARE hiding, damaging and otherwise making the book unavailable. So there is a grain of truth to your 'rightwing nutcase' customers' suspicions! Our jobs as booksellers is to make sure the book gets its say in the marketplace...it is after all a tiny spot in a sea of anti-Bush-ness this season.

If things were reversed and you were looking for Michael Moore's book (if it had been published by a small press with a bad record of distribution) at a store run by Republicans, would you believe them when they said they were out? No, many of you would be saying exactly the same thing your customers are saying.

People, humor and common sense have kept me of any arguments. I say flat out that Borders' management are flinty-hearted, penny-pinching, stone-squeezing capitalists who would no more stand for the peons tossing sales out the window than they would poke themselves in they eye with a stick. This usually gets a laugh or at least a "Mmm, I guess so", and then I tell them that we sell lots of things we don't agree with, along with the opposing viewpoint. I take them to the section, point out some books on both sides, and wander off. Most of them buy something, and that's my job. And maybe some of them will indeed look at things in a more balanced way.

Somebody should forward this to Borders management.

Has anyone ordered the book from Amazon lately? Is it backlogged on Amazon? If the problem is with the published, that they did not issue enough copies or are withholding stock (as the more rational of those at the Borders site indicate), then Amazon should be experiencing a similar backlog.

I live in a more Republican area and the last time I went into the local B&N there was black space on the bestseller shelf with a note that Unfit for Command is sold out and backordered. Inability to find the book may really be due to supply/demand issues -- but that doesn't excuse the Borderites' behavior.

The link works at Protein Wisdom if you want to read all the comments. [Link: www.celluloid-wisdom.com...] (Sorry, you'll have to paste in by hand, the link key is taking too long.)

The B and N here had it out front last time I went in. Of course, I live in "Dirtsville USA" according to DU, so all we read down here is NASCAR mags anyway...

#87 That's property destruction. Don't do it.

Oops, too late. Besides, its a property of a stupid leftist store so I could not care less about the damages it causes.

Since the book is one long Republican-inspired smear job, and it takes the additional lower road of bringing in Vietnam Vets to sell their patriotism for a mess of Karl Rove's pottage, GO BORDERS EMPLOYEES!

I worked at a Waldenbooks for about a year during my senior year of high school............ every body else that worjed there was some sort of activist. morons

The book's admittedly not as bad as Mein Kampf, but I would put it in the same category as Steal This Book, by Abbie Hoffman. Not only utterly devoid of literary merit, but also getting close to the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

Amazon has it -- no lines, no waiting, delivered right to your door at 40% off retail, with free shipping for orders over $25!

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Another example of Old Media not being able to suppress differing viewpoints -- amazon et al sell virtually every book in print.
 

Hey, if anyone is getting a runaround about a book existing or other such nonsense, here's a suggestion.

Find out the book's ISBN number - every book published has one. It's a unique identifier, and the chains all use them in their search engines in store and online to facilitate searches.

Not only does it show that you know something of how the publishing industry works, but it is far easier to run the search based on ISBN than doing a keyword or author search.

Hmmm post disappeared the first time...

Here's a pic of two Borders employees discussing how best to market "Unfit for Command".

Is it time to ban Gordon yet?

Anything you can do to make them feel unwelcome is only fair. They are the people pushing retailers to cut costs, don’t forget. And they would censor your speech, your books, your music in a heartbeat, so give them a taste of it!

Wow - what delusions of self-important grandeur. I'd like to ask them to cite specific examples of what speech/books/music the "Left Behind'ers" have not allowed them to purchase and/or posess. I'm not expecting an honest response. Notice also the true-to-form Christian bashing as well. What pricks!

My local Barnes & Noble (B&N) here in Chicago (State Parkway at Elm) has had Unfit for command featured front-and-center for weeks (and heavilly discounted like its' other best-sellers). Most of the people working there are probably left-of-center, but unlike the Borders schmucks, they're there to sell books regardless of their political bent. That's why I have a B&N Readers' Advantage Card.

Slightly OT: My Great Uncle is married to one of the daughters of the founder of Borders (and that is her maiden name). If they still owned the chain, I might have made mention of this to her personally. I'm certain that something like this would really bother her, but her family no longer has any influence in the company.

If you're going to buy the book, you should+ support B&N by not only buying "Unfit for Command", but also buying a Readers' Advantage Card. Tell them that you are doing it because, unlike Borders, B&N doesn't hide/damage/censor their books. Seems it be a great way to reinforce the commitment to stocking all books, regardless of political controversy.

Gordon, you finally show your true fascist face.
Good.
The left must have lost it, they show who they have always been...
REDFASCISTS.

W '04

CONDI and GIULIANI '08 and '12

The print view of the Borders thread seems to load better.

No surprise. I had a bit of a battle a week and a half ago when I went into a borders and couldn't find the book. I of course asked and was to left to stand and wait while they went to check. (hmm....where in another city??) Of course waiting is not one of my greatest talents under any circumstances, so I asked again. Their reply was, "we can't find the guy who went to look." One would not have to be too smart to know what they were up to. I then asked for the manager and was told "she was out to lunch." I then asked where they normally keep those books and the reply was "I am new here."

Lucky I had an appointment and could not stay to throw a fit no matter how much I wanted to. As I ran out of the store an employee came after me with a copy of the book. I asked if he had more copies and replied, "yes." Knowing I was not going back to that store EVER, I asked with a smile if he could put 20 copies aside for me and I would be back in an hour to purchase them. (everyone needs a pound of flesh, hah?) When I returned home I sent a letter to Borders Corporate office.

To my friends on LGF *L’Shanah Tova Tikatevu*

Wishing you all a SWEET AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR.

#99 Cam

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Re: #94

And our resident troll comes out in favor of censorship. Good show!

*polite golf clapping*

Forget these lefty weirdos at the bookstores. There are a number of sites which can link you to outfits where you can buy the book. I found it online at conservativebookservice.com (CBS for short-HAHA), and got it within a couple of weeks.
I was going on vacation anyway, and it was there when I got back.

Shockingly enough, I was at a Stop&Shop supermarket in West Yarmouth, MA (near Hyannis), and they had a small book display, and to my shock, Unfit For Command was front and center. And what do you know, they were all scooped up by the next morning (or perhaps, hidden).

My only lament was I had bought it already; otherwise I would've grabbed it there and made sure to bring it to the beach for all to see. Nothing to drive the Massachusetts liberals more crazy that a guy wearing a Yankees hat reading Unfit for Command

I think this blatant discrimination is endemic in book stores. I recently asked for "Unfit for Command" at B.Dalton Bookseller in Bangor, after searching futilely through all of the hate Bush books which were prominently displayed close to the door. Upon asking the manager about Unfit, he told me it was all sold out, and when I questionned why all the anti-Bush books, was told that he stocks what his customers want.

Guess conservatives don't buy books??

Since the book is one long Republican-inspired smear job, and it takes the additional lower road of bringing in Vietnam Vets to sell their patriotism for a mess of Karl Rove's pottage, GO BORDERS EMPLOYEES!

Wow, total Gordon meltdown in action.

#93--

It's property destruction. You are no better than the ELF people who burn down new houses built in places they don't like.

Yeah, Gordo
Why don't they just pile the copies in the parking lot and set them afire?
Demonizing characterizations of the book tell us more about those making them than they do about the book itself.
The Borders employees are violating any number of contractual obligations, and presuming the authority to engage in outright censorship.
How much more arrogant and hypocritical will you media conformist totalitarians become?
The LLL cultural dictatorship is collapsing before our eyes, and this very blog has led the charge.

OT

Filming of War of the Worlds completed

In news fit to set Steven Spielberg's hair on end, Pendragon Pictures has just announced the completion of principal photography on their take of H.G. Wells' The War Of The Worlds. Set in Wells' intended turn-of-the-century English locale, the movie is the world's first authentic adaptation of the H.G. Wells classic 1898 novel.

Spielberg is working on a version set in modern times. With a brave President Kerry-Clone or a dumb President Bush-Clone no doubt.

The most I have ever done was turning all of Clinton's books backwards. When the clerk caught me, I said Clinton's face"violated my religious sensibilities". She looked at me , nodded, and quickly walked away. I didn't do anything vandalous, and well, it made me feel better(although admittedly juvenile).

Gang - this is war - culture war -

Borders want to jump in? well...c'mon in the water's fine.........

Time to protest them for this - hit them whwere it hurts for this - start up the e-mail and letters... oh lizzard legions!!!

gordon #94

pick one of these:

"I know you are but what am I?"
"well...well...nuh uh!!!"
"I'm rubber, you're glue..."

Now run along home and get your father...if he's there..to come back and have a reasonable discussion.

It's so good that the trolls come out with their true face when we are going to 7000 users online.
So good.
Go Nodrog.

We need the other idiot here, the one who wrote SCREW THEM about our Fellow Americans when the terrorists killed, beheaded and ripped apart the US securitu personnel carrying food to Fallujah.
Go trolls !!!

The Gods drive mad the ones they want lost.

#36 Dave the...

B&N is very balanced. Or at least the ones around here.

Depends on the store, I suppose. I live in an area that is about 80% Republican, but bookstore employees are as LLL as you'll find anywhere (mostly students, natch). At the local B&N, the big display in the Current Events section contained 72 books; of those, only 11 or 12 could be considered right-wing, and maybe another 8 or 9 libertarian. As you might expect, Michael Moore and Al Franken were the most prominent. Copies of Sean Hannity's new book were all turned around (it was the NYT #1 bestseller then, IIRC). No books by Michael Savage or Rush Limbaugh were on display, but they had every volume by Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn currently in print.

In Border's defense, if you go on and read the rest of the posts in that message list, someone else does condemn this person's idea.

Though there is the whole liberal bias of any conservative book I've ever looked for (Bestsellers on the bottom shelf of the Nonfiction section and their spot on the "Bestseller" list blank), or just a 'lack of knowledge' about the same bestseller books.

This is infuriating, I had to run that piece of sh*t movie Fahrenheit 9/11 even though I find/found it personally offensive and repulsive; I wanted to throw it off the building, burn it, you name it and I wanted to do it to that friggin film. Did I? Absolutely not, because of my prodigious I made absolutely sure that nothing whatsoever happened to that print so long as it was in my care, beyond that…good riddance to bad rubbish. Absolutely infuriating.

Guess I should count myself lucky that I was able to buy one of the two copies of Unfit for Command that the local Borders seems to have ordered. Thought it was odd at the time, I mean they had an Everest of Clinton’s book and then only two of Unfit. As it stands the local Borders still have the movie Gentleman’s Agreement on the comedy shelves instead of the drama shelves.

Oh, this isn't unusual at all. I was a manager for B & N for a time & I saw it all the time.

But you'll notice that, try as they might, those "right wing" books still wind up on bestseller lists.

Anyway, booksellers are only one leg of a 4-legged chair comprising authors, publishers, marketers & bookshops. The two who block the "right wing" books are publishers & bookshops. The market determines the sales and you're doing fine despite every effort, believe me.

96 Gordon

Yeah, and I guess those over 1000 Vietnam Vets at the anti-Kerry rally last week were yellin' fire, too! They were. As in "friendly fire"...as in most wish that they should have shot a traitor like Kerry themselves!

Well, Gordon, are you going to disprove the points in "Unfit For Command", or should we just take your word for it that they're smears?

Have any proof or links to document your assertions?

No?

Didn't think so...

TV (Harry)

FWIW, picked up a copy at my nearby Borders (Keystone @ Crossing, Indianapolis) Sunday night, and didn't have any problem finding it. It wasn't up front, but it was endcapped in the political section. 30% off, too.

#114 One Truth Poney

hit them whwere it hurts for this

Well, that usually is the wallet. Boycott .

I wouldnt suggest boycotting Borders outright. The best approach would be mom did. She asked person at the cashier if the book was in, she claimed that it wasnt in yet.

Unbeknownest to the little L³ she was called the day before by the manager saying the book was in (she reserved a copy).

Instead of the telling the woman this little fact, she asked if she could go check for her. She went back and supposedly checked and claimed, no, they dont have the book.

My mom then asked for the manager who quickly went in the back and got her a copy....she then proceeded to tell the manager about the woman who supposedly checked for the book and told her it was not in. He did not look to pleased I was told.

Borders is still out to make money, I would hope the managment would put the foot down on somthing of this nature....maybe if we point out this type of behavior, those trying to suppress opinion would either be let go or rethink their stance when their job may be in jeopardy.

There are a lot of people who are responding to this by saying they will stop buying at Borders and buy at Amazon instead.

Check out Borders.com.

Borders and Amazon are hand-in-hand. And Amazon has this to say about its filters for courtesy in the reviews section for that book:

Important note from Amazon.com: We've decided to suspend our normal customer review policies and rules for this title. For example, we usually prohibit ad hominem attacks. That policy in particular seems to be incompatible with presidential election year politics. Therefore, short of obscenities, reviews on this book are now a free-for-all. We take no responsibility for the following discussion. Aren't presidential election years great? Have fun!

If this isn't exactly the circumstance in which all should demand civility and respect, what is? Apparently, to Amazon, it's an invitiation to launch ad hominem attacks upon the authors of "Unfit for Command" but no one else? Any other books receive this waiver?

I totally agree...don't get mad, get even.

Anybody know how to get in touch with Borders' sales executives and regional managers?

If so, let's send them copies of their employees' plan to boycott all Republicans, and let's let them know that unless they take swift, meaningful action to prevent such discrimination, we will get our books, like Unfit for Command, from other booksellers.

Two final words: Amazon.com and Waldenbooks.

I read the first page's posts. They sound like young "default Socialists" and spaghetti-spined, recalcitrant Marxists. And they are even destroying books!

Sheesh.

I couldn't get through to the Borders link. They must have seen this article by Dick Morris thus they are aware that Kerry needs all the help he can get.

September 15, 2004 -- JOHN Kerry is in deeper trouble than the polls indicate. While the Fox News survey taken last week after the Republican convention shows Bush with a small lead over Kerry, the internal data indicates big shifts against the Democrat.
For example, Kerry is now seen unfavorably by a record 44 percent of the voters (his personal worst), giving him a slightly higher unfavorable ratio than Bush — whom 43 percent dislike. (Bush's edge comes from the fact that he gets 51 percent to rate him favorably, while Kerry has only a 46 percent favorable rating.)

But worse, the poll shows that Kerry must face a basic problem: His own voters don't like him very much.

The Fox News poll asked Kerry supporters if their vote for the Democrat could best be described as motivated by support for Kerry (41 percent) or by opposition to Bush (51 percent). By contrast, Bush voters emphatically say, by 82-13, that they are voting for the president rather than against the challenger.

This puts Kerry in a tough position in the coming debates. He has no real base of support and any attenuation of the dislike his voters feel for Bush will weaken him substantially. All Bush has to do is to persuade a few Kerry voters to stop disliking him, and he can get their votes. There is no residual affection for the Democrat to get in the way of their switching to the president.

The polls already have shown how Kerry's own voters break almost evenly on the issues, with half supporting the war in Iraq and half opposing it, and almost equal numbers saying we must stay the course as say we should bring the troops home.

So Kerry can't use issues to hold his own in the debates: Whatever he says will antagonize some of his base. And now it's plain that he can't rely on personal popularity to hold them, since most are just voting against Bush.

If the president gives an even moderately effective presentation and comes across as even somewhat likeable, he can cut deeply into Kerry's vote.

In addition, the poll shows that there has been a shift in the issues on which voters are focused. Those who identify terrorism or homeland security as key issues has risen from 7 percent before the convention to 22 percent afterward, and issues such as taxes and gay marriage, which did not make the polls before, now draw 4 percent each who feel they are the most important issue before the nation. .....

NOBODY LIKES HIM

NOT Amazon

See #128 above.

Maccabean -

Waldenbooks and Borders are owned by the same company - KMart.

urthshu:

Anyway, booksellers are only one leg of a 4-legged chair comprising authors, publishers, marketers & bookshops. The two who block the "right wing" books are publishers & bookshops. The market determines the sales and you're doing fine despite every effort, believe me.

You left out book reviewers.

#82 trigger girlie,

I know a little dolly named Mitsy. 'Course, she's a lap dancer.

OTOH, I'd say she's both more intelligent and more trustworthy than Kitty Kelly.

And they would censor your speech, your books, your music in a heartbeat, so give them a taste of it!

Pot and kettle anyone?

LLLs scream "censorship" if anyone dares even to criticize their sacred authorities, like Mike Al-Moor or the Gnome.
Imagine the outcry if there were even a hint of their books being actively suppressed, as the Borders Stalinists confess to doing with the opposition.
Nothing more starkly reveals the real nature of the LLL: a movement composed entirely of those who equate lying and hypocrisy with power.
I no longer treat LLL rank and filers as dupes, they are fully and individually complicit in the crimes they support.

If Gordon can discuss the claims in the book, does mean that he's one of the "neanderthals" who bought the thing? Just asking.

Gordon,

I used to think you were getiing picked on but after now i am starting to wonder about you.

It is the job of bookstore employee's to sell books not to try and not to because they disagree with the contents.

Trigger Girlie

You are advocating Mischief, which makes us no better than the employee's we are complaining about.

OMG

No wonder! It's a Friggin' union bookstore!! I can't believe it!! I would like to meet their business agent so I can see where Jimmy Hoffa Jr. puts his hand!!!!

Look for, the union label.....(tacky background singers in the distance..)

Has this been a wierd election season or what ?

****ry Music Chicks implode.

Borders Employees banning books -- Sheesh.

Deaniacs Raise money on the internet.

527's beat Dean in Iowa and Super Tuesday to hand Kerry the Nomination -- thanks to George Soros.

Kerry's Vietnam Vet Colleagues form a committee to "tell All" about the Famous War Protester who would be President.

All Gore has a mental breakdown -- over and over -- and Hillary is conspicuously absent.

Sitting President compared to Hitler in web/TV ads and DNC bumper stickers in Minnesota.

Phony memos by "makin up my own news" Rather.

All that's left is doctored photos of first family members engaging in Barnyard S*x.

3 movies plus a Farenheit 911 Schlocumentary bashing a sitting president.

Not since Mondale was sued and had to pull TV adds with stolen video footage of an ICBM launch with the ominous bass voice asking -- "Do you trust Ronald Reagan's finger on the Nuclear Trigger ?" That one lasted 2 days before the courts shut it down because the video used stolen footage.

I liked the answer to that one -- from 49 states.

We're not there yet but it's headed in the Right Direction

I'm either A) living in that parallel Universe Doc Brown warned Marty about -- Marty, Marty, stay out of the DeLorean
Or
B) Cursed by Sun Tzu, "May you live in interesting times"

It looks like I'm going to have to wear my Hippies Smell t-shirt from Those Shirts into Borders.

Damn those crafty book sellers!

More Veterans for Truth pics from Sunday.

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Book reviewers don't really count for all that much, in my opinion. That's both as an interested observer & as a pro.

We don't have a borders locally, but we do have BAM and B&N as well as several independent book stores. When it first came out NONE of them had copies. THey had received only enough copies to fill the pre-orders. Took about a week to get my copy, but I did get. From B&N. Pleasantly and politely. No negative vibes.l

I was at my local Borders (in San Francisco) back in June and I asked them to order a copy of Cox & Forkum's Black and White World for me. After a while, they were finally able to do all of the paperwork. In a month or so I got a call from a Borders store manager. Turns out they couldn't get the book because the publisher, who they called, wouldn't get back to them. Well, I thought, C&F need to know about this. So I contacted them. Forkum was quite surprised. It seems that C&F publish the book themselves and they got no calls from Borders. I had thought that this was just a misunderstanding. I don't think that any more.

This cretan brings to mind the discussion I overheard in a chain bookstore where a mother was asking for the books on her kid's school reading list. The employee couldn't tell her who authored the Sherlock Holmes stoies, and couldn't even figure out how to bring it up on the pc. When I tried to help out he got very upset.
I don't think they ever found the poor woman's book.

The book's admittedly not as bad as Mein Kampf ...

You're comparing this book to Mein Kampf, Gordon!? You can't help yourself, can you?

Go to hell, you anti-Semitic POS.

When I'm in a bookstore and find it hidden away, I pickup two or three copies and quietly move them to places of prominence.

I may be one of the "Neandertals in fancy suits" (actually I'm wearing a rather nice charcoal-gray pinstripe at the moment), but at least I know that the preferred spelling of my species in English is "Neanderthal", and can also correctly spell "Michael".

#113 Katie:

The most I have ever done was turning all of Clinton's books backwards. When the clerk caught me, I said Clinton's face"violated my religious sensibilities". She looked at me , nodded, and quickly walked away. I didn't do anything vandalous, and well, it made me feel better (although admittedly juvenile).

That's quite simple one of the funniest things I have heard in a long time. Mad props from Chicago!

#141 Havoc

All that's left is doctored photos of first family members engaging in Barnyard S*x.

That's Kitty Kelley's job.

OT

New Orleans is about to be T-O-A-S-T.

IVAN big picture looping

IVAN Nwalins local loop

sorry Abu Ed, don't mean to trample your territory if you have already posted.

BTW

Shana tove ve metuka to all...

(Back to cooking)... :-)

# 152 Occasional Reader

Stuid libeals in flip-fops

First and most importantly- Happy New Year to LGF's posters and most escpecially Charles.

Second #81 is not right, KMart spun out Borders several years ago. I do not believe they own any shares in Borders at this time (given their recent bankruptcy, any shares they still retained would have long been sold for cash).

Third The son of Border's Group's Vice Chair, about 4-5 years ago, wrote a little ditty for his high school paper accusing Israel of spreading aids and poisoning wells and host of other amazing discoveries he made on the internet. For this reason, every member of my family shops anywhere but Borders.

Fourth Always remember that retailing is reality writ large. Every lost sale is irreplacable. When employees are sabotaging their sales, sooner or later, the retailer will slowly diverge from customer tastes, then gravity takes care of the rest.

Just out of curiosity, I visited the website for my local Borders and was shocked to see what was there, listed under events. I got a screen grab because you have to see it to believe it.

How reassuring I wasn't imagining "Unfit to Command" kept disappearing at the Borders on 18th & L St., NW in DC, or that employees I queried about its whereabouts were variously surly, clueless or dismissive.

I just clicked onto this thread so I don't know what the previous comments are, but--

My local Barnes & Noble is clearly guilty of the same thing. There are tables heaped with anti-Bush material, but to find Unfit for Command, you have to ask a salesperson and be directed to a dark corner, OR you have to look under a table to find a few copies stacked up.

Coincidence? I think NOT.

#94 Gordon 9/15/2004 10:48AM PST

Since the book is one long Republican-inspired smear job, and it takes the additional lower road of bringing in Vietnam Vets to sell their patriotism for a mess of Karl Rove's pottage, GO BORDERS EMPLOYEES!

WHINE!

Oh no, we *can't* let free, independent thought take place. Everyone MUST think like US. How dare they! Don't they know Senator Kerry served honorably in Vietnam while everyone else was a bunch of Facist, Jewish, Babykillers?????? Senatory Kerry's been the only one brave, brave enough to come back from that quagmire and tell us all about it! Anyone who says differently is questinging this brave, honorable, courageous man's patriotism!

Yes, the Borders Employees should hide this vicious untrue smear campaign. It's illegal! It's obvious that they are nothing more than Rovian Neocon attack-dogs, probably paid by Haliburton since they come from Texas, and it is so wrong that it MUST be taken out of circulation. You're absolutely right, it's their PATRIOTIC DUTY to hide anything that contradicts what we all know is true, and if they don't think so, it's criminal!!!

#96 Gordon 9/15/2004 10:50AM PST

The book's admittedly not as bad as Mein Kampf, but I would put it in the same category as Steal This Book, by Abbie Hoffman. Not only utterly devoid of literary merit, but also getting close to the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

Oh, I know! this book is so much worse - it goes against everything that we know is true! You got it absolutely right! Gordon, we *can't* let them publish things that are just so... so.. wrong, so full of Jewish lies, and stuff. It's so *obvious* that it's so much worse than that little book published in 1925... I mean, just look at what the NeoCons are doing, soon the government is going to have to shut down on their holidays! If they knew it back in 1925, why didn't they do *anything* about it? But this, this is so much worse. Senator Kerry's an honorable man, and American, that held his nose and served with the Facist, Jewish, Babykillers, told us about it after he got himself out of there, and now serves in the Senate to protect us against all the Neocons and evils that's out there. Like SUVs!

I think what the Borders' union members don't realize is that it is the "vast right wing" and "moderates" that keep these guys in business. I've never seen a guy in a suit and tie perched up against a wall reading books in store. They buy them. On the flipside I have seen your typical liberal looking, tree sitting freaks, camped in stores reading books because they are too cheap to buy them.

I just clicked onto this thread so I don't know what the previous comments are, but--

My local Barnes & Noble is clearly guilty of the same thing. There are tables heaped with anti-Bush material, but to find Unfit for Command, you have to ask a salesperson and be directed to a dark corner, OR you have to look under a table to find a few copies stacked up.

Coincidence? I think NOT.

#94 Gordon:

Since the bookmedia is one long RepublicanDemocrat-inspired smear job, and it takes the additional lower road of bringing in Vietnam Vets to sell their patriotism for a mess of Karl Rove's pottage, GO BORDERS EMPLOYEESDAN RATHER!

As of 2:15 pm EST the comment is still there....

OT Charles will see 200,000 thousand hits today and at least 150,000 unique visitors. This is indeed an opportunity for many to see the educational and informational potential of the internet in action at a high level. Many people will encounter unfamiliar words for the first time. Word such as dhimmitude, islamist, and other words will become known to them for the first time here. I hope they use google or other tools to learn the meaning and significance of such terms. Knowledge will keep you free.

SAM'S is carrying the book at their usual discount. I ordered mine through B & N before I saw it on the shelf at SAM'S. The clerk at B & M was very nice but did mention the chatter going around about their policy on the book.

In fairness to Borders, I went to the Borders in downtown Portland (OR) after I visited Powell's, and got a fairly helpful response. The young woman at the info desk said "Unfit" was out of stock due to high demand, that they would be getting another shipment from the warehouse soon, and would I like them go give me a call when it came in? I said yes, they did, and I bought it.

What's the news on Sandy Burgler? Anyone?

Dan?

I don't think this is boycott-worthy, but absolutely let hq know about it. It's the drones who stock the books who are doing this. Borders is all about making money, they would surely put a stop to this nonsense with a quickness.

I bought VDH's "Carnage and Culture" at the local B&N. It's a pretty conservative area, though I overheard the employees joking about hiding O'Reilly's book. The cashier took one look at VDH, looked at me, and said "This is a GREAT book!" And he was right.

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Yeah, the employees set up the tables, usually by the amount of books they have on a single subject- so if you've got a pile of anti-Bush crap, you pile it together.

OTOH, there's the automatic ordering system, which is driven by sales. If it sells perennially, they have to carry it.

Skipping from #57 to respond, sorry if I duplicate another persons idea, but that just means we all think alike..right? :)

Borders spends money paying their employees to do this crap. Writing to the people at the top is useless, as they are the ones directly telling the employees and managers to take these sort of actions.

Best way to fight back? If you are a courteous person, what do you do when you pick up a book and decide then that you don't want to purchase it? You put it back.. right?
So, pick up your favorite book (i.e. UFC if you can find it), and after looking through it, put it back.. on your way out... on the display with all the ***ty Kelly books and such. If they want to hide them.. make them do it several times and waste more of their time and money in order to oppress the truth.

After all, if you aren't going to buy the book, you should be kind enough to at least put it back on a shelf...

They are the people pushing retailers to cut costs, don’t forget

What a hideous crime it is for a retailer to cut costs. (sarcasm off)
Does this Borders employee even have an elemental grasp of basic economics? I can only imagine that Borders tries to "cut costs" by requiring to perform a modicum of work in return for his wages.

Link from NRO... expect another bumrush...

This is off topic, but I just heard Howie Dean on the Radio complaining that Republicans were spending money to keep Nader on the ballot in many states. Nader's reply, "not as much money as Democrats are spending to keep me off!" I don't agree with Nader too much but he's exactly right! It's worse to keep someone off for polical reasons than to help them get on...let candidates win on ideas. I didn't see Democrats suing anyone when Ross Perot ran.

I really believe the Democrats whining about everything and then playing far dirtier politics than Republicans could ever dream of is back firing big time. They are a bunch of spoiled children.

I hope they keep it up and loose big!

OT: Dear G*D! They've ALREADY had part of US98 washout and we're just getting the leading edge of the leading bands! This is going to be a rough night and probably all of tomorrow also.

Is this the Happy New Year thread? (It'd better be; I'm having mega-trouble logging on today.)

littleoldlady and family (talloldman, spoiledrottenteenager, et al) wish you all a sweet year filled with happiness, health and prosperity. Special good wishes go to CHARLES - what a week! YASHER KOACH, CHARLES!

SHANA TOVA, Everybody!

147 ploome

cause it's fun talkin' to the village idiot....it's kind of like payin for those carnival sideshows you KNOW are fake, but you go anyway....strictly amusement!!!

#74 Sarah D.
He's the one that calls anyone who reads the book an idiot, but suggests we need compassion. That's better than the reeducation camps they usually suggest, if they don't actually build them.

#82 Trigger Girlie
This is probably why I buy my books online. Why are the freedoms of speech, contract, and thought so controversial? I know they always have been, but I still don't get it. No leftist minds will be changed by gumming up an Al Franken book. But if Al wags a finger in your face and starts pushing, as he did to a TV producer at the RNC, kick his ass.

#107...you had to ruin it by saying your a yankee fan. Just kidding.

BTW: How can we take back our state?

Got downloaded all five pages. It was a bit slow.

#158....you call it as it will be:
Gravity takes care of the rest.
And it will.
Analagous to the advertisers, who, ultimately run the sad ship of 'media' state, they have little time to attempt to divert or explain the shut down that is barreling down the track.
Gravity wins, each and every time.
#158, you know the score....well done.
Borders, B&N, shortsightedness is your doom.

OT:

Dowd in her drunkedness is answering questions about women and politics at pinchys rag

Teresa Heinz Kerry would be a fascinating, controversial presence on the trail if she were a male or female, because she is outspoken and vivid and, as with any billionaire, accustomed to having things their own way. Jacob Weisberg of Slate calls her a cross between "Hillary Clinton and Zsa Zsa Gabor.'' Her friends call her "She Who Must Be Obeyed.'' Most reporters would love a chance to cover Mrs. Kerry in the East Wing.Most reporters would love a chance to cover Mrs. Kerry in the East Wing.

Pinchy's Sanitary Napkin

#119 sundance
Well, you have class, and morals to do the job without letting personal feelings get in the way - something these Borders' employees lack.

Lysander

#60 mad_scientist

Dont they see that they have become what they say they despise??

The "left" has always been what they say they despise. Remember George Orwell was not writing about some general all purpose undefined authoritarianism when he wrote 'Animal Farm' and '1984'. He was talking about socialism.

The current "right" or "conservatives" never demonized or vilified their political opponents the way the left does. Conservatives and classic liberals (pre 1960s) never marched in the streets with red/black flags with funny symbols. They never had 'black blocs' provoking police, trying to cause riots.

The left doesn't believe in truth or reason anymore. Everything to them is politically motivated. As long as you're on their side you can do no wrong. If not, you're dumb, a cracker, a racist or a liar and you don't even have the right to be heard.

Many people have abandoned the left since the 1960s and became Reagan Democrats, libertarians, neo-conservatives, 9-11 Republicans or whatever. The Democratic Party is left with people incapable of adjusting their own preconceptions to new facts and changing realities.

I'm convinced some of them will turn to violence after W. Bush's landslide win in the coming election. They have no other way out.

177 Rabidfox

where are you...I'm on the west side of the bay...

No wonder things are running like slow molasses.

After posts #94 and #96, Nodrog still isn't banned because............................why?

OT: KEEP up the emails to CBS and its competitors!

Letter just sent.

Gentlemen:
See below.

"You guys don’t actually HAVE to sell the thing!

Just “carelessly” hide the boxes, “accidentally” drop them off pallets, “forget” to stock the ones you have, and then suggest a nice Al Franken or Micheal Moore book as a substitute. Borders wants those recommends, remember?

I don’t care if these Neandertals in fancy suits get mad at me, they aren’t regular customers anyway. Other than “Left Behind” books, they don’t read. Anything you can do to make them feel unwelcome is only fair. They are the people pushing retailers to cut costs, don’t forget. And they would censor your speech, your books, your music in a heartbeat, so give them a taste of it!

Don’t get mad, get even!"

What are your people thinking? Has everyone gone mad? This is America-we fight and die for the freedom of speech, thought and opinion that some pinheaded idiot in your employ distains.

I hope that you will make some public comment concerning this issue, since if you do not do so I will have to assume you approve (on a corporate level) of behavior of this nature.

You should be ashamed.

OT:

(and doing this for a record of current activity)
Users Online:...............7,085
Today
Total:.......................113,697
Unique:......................84,322
Yesterday
Total:.......................143,303
Unique:....................110,683

Impressive numbers, Charles!

Lysander

I can't connect to pages past the first of the thread lol.

Given the right circumstances those guys & gals would have no problem killing, jailing and torturing everything and everyone :s
It's scary, really, considering the worst is to come war-wise.

Ziggy says there is a 87.6% chance we're headed to the apocalypse.

What do you expect from union workers?

#152 Occasional Reader:

Actually, both spellings are in use. The word Neandertal describes where the first bones were found - the Neander valley in Germany. Thal, or Tal, is the German for valley, IIrc. At the time of the discovery, "thal" was the accepted spelling, but it has since been modernized to "tal". So either is acceptable.

Gordo:

While I'm still on a F451 kick:

What traitors books can be! You think they're backing you up, and they turn on you. Others can use them, too, and there you are, lost in the middle of the moor, in a great welter of nouns and verbs and adjectives

Idjit.

And they would censor your speech, your books, your music in a heartbeat, so give them a taste of it!

-- this crap always cracks me up when I hear it spouted from Dems and the LLL... Doesn't anyone remember who started the PMRC and much of this whole music censorship thing? TIPPER GORE (among others)- now what party is she with? how quickly we forget.

There's nothing worse than a bunch of rich, arrogant "washington wives" with too much time on their hands!

Well, I sent corporate an e-mail from a "former customer." I do hope that it will have an effect. It's too bad. My local Border's was vey convenient. Oh well, I'll be buying from Amazon from now on.

The assholes at Borders made it incredibly difficult for me to buy a copy of "Michael Moore is a Big Fat Stupid White Man" when I was in there about a month ago. It was literally hidden behind a stack of "Stupid White Men." This was the store in Troy, MI.

Who do those Borders employees think they are? Communists or Ayatollahs?

Interview with Jay Leno, who says he is not conservative. When he had Michael Moore on his show, this is what he said to his audience during pre-show warm-up:

And I said to the audience in the warm-up, “You know, Michael Moore is on the show tonight.” Boos. “You know this is America, and it’s free speech. If you don’t like it, please don’t boo.

Link.
Got that? Free speech, so if you disagree with me and want to boo.....shut-up.

Yeah I don't buy much there. the employees are bums and sons of b*tches.They waste your time. they laught and say sure, I'll be back. and never return. they are not good employees at all. They are lousy and there should be a house cleaning with a retired officer in charge of each store. (Kick them in the ass)
I can't believe the stockholders would put up with this poor performance.
Barmes an Noble puts out the anti-bush ,neg stuff. in the front. I turn the books over face down. they are jerks too.

It was literally hidden behind a stack of "Stupid White Men."

The book by that name, or the salespeople?

#186 Peter Verkooijen

I'm convinced some of them will turn to violence after W. Bush's landslide win in the coming election. They have no other way out.

I hope you are wrong, but it wount surprise me in the least. The one thing I can predict with 100% certainty is that id Bush is re-elected there will IMMEDIATELY be a push by the far left (including Ted Kennedy his ilk in the Senate) to impeach him.

I have the first five pages archived as both web pages and one big .pdf complete with time-stamp. In the event anyone needs it, you can contact me via the info on the Haganah site (click my name).

I think I should reiterate that it's not fair to impute these actions to the corporation, unless they refuse to do anything from here on.

But, if you are going to boycott Borders, please note that Amazon.com is no substitute. Amazon is the internet distributor for Borders books.

Just type [Link: www.borders.com...] and see what happens.

CBS to make a statement at 3:30 Eastern time.

Did anyone actually read the thread? While it's obvious none of them liked the book, only one guy (the one quoted) suggested hiding books. The others disagreed with him. Also there was a suspicious number of newly registered users near the end...

Paxnhym, I'm north Okaloosa Co. FL. About 40-50 mi. east of Pensacola. 98 was washed out around Destin. I expected it to be washed out, just not this early. Channel 3 is sort of a combined coverage of the hurrican. Pretty good. South county is also looking at having the water turned off rather than let it get contaminated and there's a water main break somewhere.

Meanwhile, Iraq is FUBAR. Good thing the chickenhawks here at LGF have important things like font size, kerning, and Border's employees to occupy their time. Can't let reality intrude now.

#154 Spiny Norman

All that's left is doctored photos of first family members engaging in Barnyard S*x.

... That's Kitty Kelly's Job.

Nope, she's in charge of the doctored Cocaine Addict with his finger on the Nuclear Trigger Photos.

Terry McLoo has no doubt had the late night meetings with the Ever Faithful Liberal Democrat, Larry Flint, for the doctored barnyard S*x photos. They're likely already in the can ready to go.

With the Glacial pace the FEC is following up on the RNC's complaints about 527's from March -- FEC staffed with guess who's 1990's appointees
Expect those S*x photos out about mid-October, to run for two weeks and two days on C-BS.

Is this unlikely ? Hardly. We've already seen ads and lots of vitrol at DNC sponsored events comparing a sitting U.S. president to the one of the two greatest criminals in the history of the earth.

Typical lefty "tit for tat."

Works like this:

The Swift Boat Vets say some unkind things about Kerry's military service [the vast majority of which has been substantiated].

Lefty response: Dan Rathergate and the forged Bush TANG documents, q.v.

Touché: Lefties get gang-piled and caught in a huge, bald-faced lie.

Lefty response: Hiding "Unfit for Command" at Borders [if we don't look under the bed, the monster will go away!].

Sheesh. Give me an effing break. These people aren't even remotely ready to lead the country.

OT again:

SeeBS can't get their statement out, but they can put up satire:
Political Satire SeeBS Style

"Courageous Legacy" of U.S. Draft Dodgers?

A group of residents in Nelson, British Columbia, has announced plans to build a big, bronze monument in their hometown honoring the, "courageous legacy" of U.S. draft-dodgers who fled to Canada during the Vietnam War and the current war in Iraq.

They say, "It would be nice to honor [the draft resisters] and all those that actually took a step towards peace." But first, according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, the group must find a site and raise money for the project.

– FOX News' Michael Levine contributed to this report

...No surprise. I had a bit of a battle a week and a half ago when I went into a borders and couldn't find the book. I of course asked and was to left to stand and wait while they went to check. (hmm....where in another city??) Of course waiting is not one of my greatest talents under any circumstances, so I asked again. Their reply was, "we can't find the guy who went to look." One would not have to be too smart to know what they were up to. I then asked for the manager and was told "she was out to lunch." I then asked where they normally keep those books and the reply was "I am new here."

Lucky I had an appointment and could not stay to throw a fit no matter how much I wanted to. As I ran out of the store an employee came after me with a copy of the book. I asked if he had more copies and replied, "yes." Knowing I was not going back to that store EVER, I asked with a smile if he could put 20 copies aside for me and I would be back in an hour to purchase them. (everyone needs a pound of flesh, hah?) When I returned home I sent a letter to Borders Corporate office.

To my friends on LGF *L’Shanah Tova Tikatevu*

Wishing you all a SWEET AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR
....

You could have asked - "Can you also add 5 copies of "Treason" by Ann Coulter?" Or Sean Hannitty's new book?

LOL

swhitebull - have a great holiday!

Bookstore managers and clerks as well as librarians are two groups that piously declare that they support the First Amendment but in fact act as information gatekeepers and often suppress conservative, libertarian and contrarian books.

Libraries are particularly bad because special interest groups will try to prevent books from circulating. If a book is thrown into the garbage inside the library, nobody will ever know about it because it's not checked out. Or, they'll check it out and never return it. In either case, the lefty librarians won't bother reordering titles with which they disapprove.

I first discovered this years ago when A Piece Of Blue Sky, a book highly critical of $cientology, was listed in a number of area library catalogs but most of the copies were either lost or checked out and never returned.

Someone mentioned Fumento's Myth Of Hetero AIDS. When the book was first in print, only one library in the entire Detroit metro area had the book in their catalog and it was never available.

OT:

Americans jailed in Afghan "private prison" trial
15 Sep 2004 15:18:42 GMT

Source: Reuters

(Writes through with quotes, colour)

By David Brunnstrom

KABUL, Sept 15 (Reuters) - Three Americans were sentenced to up to 10 years in jail after being found guilty by an Afghan court on Wednesday of running a private jail and illegally detaining and torturing men in a freelance war on terror.

Jonathan "Jack" Idema, a former U.S. Green Beret, was arrested in July along with another ex-serviceman, Brent Bennett, and Emmy award-winning documentary film maker Edward Caraballo.

In a trial often as bizarre as the case against the men, Idema and his colleagues were accused of torturing eight Afghan men found at their house when they were arrested following a shootout with security forces.

Idema, 48, from Poughkeepsie, New York, and Bennett, 28, from Briggsville, California, were each sentenced to 10 years in jail and Caraballo, 42, from New York City, to eight. Four young Afghan co-defendants got from one to five years.

Pre-trial media reports around the world have portrayed Idema as a vigilante and bounty hunter chasing the $25 million fortune U.S. authorities have placed on the head of Osama bin Laden, who is thought to be hiding along the Afghan-Pakistan border.

Idema insisted he was in Afghanistan with U.S. and Afghan government sanction to help track down the al Qaeda leader and allied Taliban militants -- something the U.S. government denies -- and that Caraballo was just a journalist filming them.

Trial judge Abdul Baset Bakhtari said the defendants had failed to provide evidence they were working with the authorisation of either the U.S. or Afghan governments.

Idema dismissed the trial as a setup in which he expected to be found guilty, but nevertheless reacted angrily to the verdict, using expletives to express his frustration.

"I apologise that we tried to save these people," he shouted bitterly, apparently referring to Afghans who have faced a growing wave of militant violence led by Taliban remnants. "We should have let the Taliban murder every ... one of them."

His lawyer John Edwards Tiffany said they planned to appeal.

"Justice was not served today," he said. "I blame the U.S. government, the Bush administration and the Afghan legal system, which is not anywhere near where it needs to be."

A U.S. embassy spokeswoman said, "We feel that the Afghan government held the trial fairly and in accordance with Afghan law."

I live in a city that is full of these people. Hippies, Slackers, Neo-Hippies, Space Cowboys and Trustafarians. I can find a book of poetry about anarchist dykes in love or Mein Kampf before I'll ever find anything on my own from a conservative author.
"National Review" or "The Weekly Standard" are usually completely removed from the subject area, on the bottom mag rack in the back behind 4 or 5 copies of "Hamster Fancy".
So now I buy online. Fuck me? No, hippie shithead, fuck you. I don't have to smell your patchouli stink and I can actually find what I came to buy.

So, did anyone read the comments where this one individual was immediately shot down by his co-workers, i.e.,:

"I really, really disagree with this point of view. Booksellers have an ethical obligation IMO to present different points of view and not get in the way of freedom of speech. What you're suggesting is a form of censorship, only worse, because you're not being up front about it."

I thought LGFers went rabid when people try to pass off one comment off the boards here as indicative of all LGFers 'racist'/'right-wing'/'blow 'em all up' views.

Strange, isn't it, that you would then turn around and do the exact same thing...take one worker's comments and make it indicative of everyone who works at Border's.

How do you spell hypocrisy again?

Just came back from Barnes and Noble. Made sure that Unfit for Command was prominently displayed on the table in front of the door.

Man that store is full liberals. As I was walking around I saw one guy with a No Bush pin and another lady pick up the Kitty Kelly book and actually buy it.

#208 Dave J:

Iraq is "FUBAR" only in your Dhimmicratic wet dreams, which are spoonfed to you by the MSM. Want to know what's going on in Iraq? I suggest you listen to some people who actually live there.

rabid, yeah we heard about the H2o main break on the Mobile news, too. Too bad. That adds about a week to reestablishing running water. I 've been through Frederick, Camille, and many other lesser storms, and when I try to explain to may teenage daughters about water and ffod conservation, I get this deer in the headlights look! That's the most frustrating thing of all...they don't realize the life altering status of a hurricane!!! Boy we've raised some spoiled children in this country...maybe they need some hardships!!!

#205 Sarah D.

CBS to make a statement at 3:30 Eastern time.

Well, given that their credibility is shot, there's only one way to look at it.

NEW MATERIAL!!!

Bwah-hah-hah!!!!!

I'm confused. Are we neanderthals in suits or wearing pajamas?

And I didn't write Borders, I wrote Regnery and the SBVTs.

Courtesy of the Internet Wayback Machine, the bordersunion.org website is owned by the United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 789 in South St. Paul Minnesota. A whois search on the domain only shows a proxy site ownership name.

Why do they want to keep this hidden, I wonder? Information is here

The CBS announcement re the memo is due for 3:30 ET

#214--

The $cientologists are NOTORIOUS for not believing in other people's right to speak.

Is that smoke coming out of Nodrog's ears?
Where is the CBS announcement???

Left wingers protest everything they stand for, and stand for everything they protest. The Left is a moonbat paradox.

On a diff note: 7000 simultaneous users! Wow.

Move over Slashdot Effect, make room for The LGF Effect.

#141 Havoc - actually this has been a fairly typical presidential election campaign, it's just that we now know more about what's going on thanks to the blogosphere.
Remember 1964 - little girl sitting in an open meadow, picking petals off a daisy while a nuclear bomb cloud sudden rises up in back of her, with an over voice that this would be what happened if Goldwater won? Or the primary election campaigns between Goldwater and Nelson Rockefeller where Rock gave a report the finger - while the TV cameras were rolling.? Or LBJ promising not to send American boys to fight a war that Asian boys should fight for themselves, right AFTER secretly authorizing another 350,000 US troops to go to Vietnam. The examples of dirty politics and lies are legion.
What I'm wondering is how do we know this was posted by a Borders employee, where was it posted and is it still there (for some reason, when I click on Yehudit or th Unfit for Command links in Charles lead in I get nada. Just a message that page is unavailable, check my settings etc. etc.
In the meantime, I want to reiterate how proud I am of Charles and to inquire as to whether or not you received my check?

#208 Dave J.:

And if, oh, say, Michael Moore's books were being deliberately removed from public availibilty you wouldn't mind that at all, right?

Now who is gettin the standing ovation:

Film Fest Focuses on the Right: "Michael Moore Hates America." receives two minute standing ovation.

How much you wanna bet poor Mrs. Cox is being worked over by the CBS folks to see if there isn't some way she can't admit to the possibility she typed those memos?

#189 Crusader,

nodroG is our token idiot-savant. I say that because 9 times out of 10 he's an idiot, but occasionally he does have a good point.

I guess there are those who would say the same about me :-)

#208

We were talking about Iraq for a while here almost everyday infact. It is nice to get other topics out there. Why do you have a problem with talking about FAKE memos leaked to CBS, or suppression of speech at Borders...are they not valid topics??

Or are you just mad we didnt do cartwheels when the 1000th soldier died in Iraq like you??

Anyone here own stock in Borders?

If the corporate HQ doesn't make a proactive stand of telling it's employees that they shouldn't suppress the #1 best selling book in the country it will be exposing itself to stockholder lawsuits.

The idea that a mass marketer of books would deliberately try to suppress a profitable book boggles the mind. Borders has struggled with profitability over the years so I don't thing that the HQ really wants this to happen.

Remember, this statement was on an employees' web site. I'm a little older than John in Ann Arbor so I, too remember the first Borders store on State Street near the theatre. The management of the company are Ann Arbor liberals, no doubt, but the employees make them look like staid midwestern Republicans.

202
For any impeachment to get as far as a resolution the Dems will have to pick up a lot of seats in Congress. With Team Kerry tanking that's not gonna happen.

224 Mpax

when you find a link to the CBS statement send it...our local affiliate feeds are being preempted because of the empending hurricane...just bloggin and waitin...

#208

Meanwhile, Iraq is FUBAR. Good thing the chickenhawks here at LGF have important things like font size, kerning, and Border's employees to occupy their time. Can't let reality intrude now.

Seeing as how its the Dems who can't stop talking about 1973, has it ever occured to you that maybe its Kerry who doesn't want to talk about Iraq?

I suspect he is afraid that someone will ask him what he would do there today, and tomorrow, and the day after that. You see, that's why we need a firm hand on the tiller. Not an ex-acid head with a bad attitude towards the army.

Did they show Debby Does Dallas at that film fest too? It is IN Dallas :P

#208 Dave J, if you came here regularly, you would know the "war on terror" of the war against islamofascism, including the struggle for democracy in Iraq, is discussed frequently and in detail on this site. Come back if you have anything sensible to contribute. I'd like to see how long your arguments would last...

The only reason we had to go on and on about fonts and kernel was because some people just didn't want to see the obvious. We had to flood them with facts before they started to listen.

I think their server has melted down...

So now we know where DUmmies work.

#217 ShanNYC

That one comment is enough to prove a central contention: at least some Borders stores are actively hiding this book.

You may think that is irrelevant, but this thread is certainly not indicative of hypocrisy.

Paxnhym: Heads up. You'll be under a hurrican warning soon. Wait 'till your daughters have to go without a sewage system. I was here for Opal and that's my only experience. I really didn't want to repeat it.

BDS Outrage Of The Day: El Pais Ad - Thanks No Pasaran

#196 Jheka

Well, I sent corporate an e-mail from a "former customer." I do hope that it will have an effect. It's too bad. My local Border's was vey convenient. Oh well, I'll be buying from Amazon from now on.

Borders and Amazon work together. Though, taking funds away from their Brick & Mortar operation to their online operation means less L³ drones workers political activists commie-wanna-bees undermining Capitalism.

Lysander

#208 Dave J.

FOAD. When in extremis, try to make a cogent point. Evidence or argumentation would be nice. Since you are obviously incapable, let me show you how.
Read and learn. I think the author mentions you specifically.

Arguably, the Iraqi people would have a far more pessimistic attitudes had their been exposed to the same media diet as we are in the West.

Six Iraqi women speak out.

#212 Sean II:

Do you have a link for that? Not that it would shock me, as Nelson is and has long been a hippy enclave.

But I think that it is worth noting that it has been estimated that more Canadians volunteered to serve in the U.S. Forces during the Vietnam War than there were American draft-dodgers that came north.

As an aside, an old friend of mine who lives up on Quadra Island came to B.C. as a draft-dodger. He's so far gone he's come around again. If Flynn is indicative of the type of people that avoided the draft, you're probably better off without them. He'd have been the one setting off the claymores by accident, whacked on acid, trying to light his bong...

;-)

OOPS. meant to say "tornatdo"

#208
That's 'cause we're all obviously brainwashed chimpy-luvin fascists, and stoopid, too.
Some people CAN walk and chew gum at the same time,BTW

Those Borders folks are a bunch of whiners...
they actually think that "My Life" is the
gospel truth.

How can they be so smug about hiding the
book when it's at the top of the best seller
list?

Ah, but I forgot, liberals are looking out for us.

#102 Poitiers-Lepanto:

"W in '04"

If it's W in 04, my prediction is that he and his minions will screw things up so much that we will have Hillary in '08. Would you rather have Kerry now, or Hillary in '08? Actually, I'd rather have the latter, because Hillary, for all her faults, isn't a waffler.

Dave J. (#208)

Meanwhile, Iraq is FUBAR. Good thing the chickenhawks here at LGF have important things like font size, kerning, and Border's employees to occupy their time. Can't let reality intrude now.

No doubt Dave, that's why the big guns like Dan Rather are putting so much effort into covering the problems in Iraq and searching for ways to fix them.

Oh wait, no he's not, he's using false documentation to "prove" George Bush refused to take a physical thirty years ago.

And we're supposed to take the Democrats seriously?

withrow - Aug 21, 2004 - 02:00 PM
Post subject:
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You can probably get Regnery's corporate number from Books in Print or off the web. I'd keep it handy and then whenever a customer asks for this book, tell them that Regnery isn't keeping this book stocked and it may be because Regnery is a pinko-commie-fag publisher who's trying to bury this story by not printing enough copies of this book. Tell them you even read on the web that Hillary Clinton is on Regnery's Board of Directors.

And, after all, you did just read on the web that she's on the Board and that it's pinko-commie-fag publisher so you wouldn't be lying. Well, maybe you shouldn't use "pinko-commie-fag". How about pacifist lesbian outfit? Not that there's anything wrong with that

GAZE @ #208

#232 Iron Fist:

I guess there are those who would say the same about me

Uh, not if you were in earshot, homes...

;-)

This is why I get my news and buy my books online!! I can't stand the hypocrisy!! But I still do go into a bookstore occasionally, just to mess with them!

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#239 Peter Verkooijen,

You know, the funny thing about the Liberal Pussies who show up at LGF and call us a bunch of "chickenhawks" don't realize how many military folks are around here.

I'd like to watch Dave J. call reaganite a "chickenhawk" to his face :-P

#251 Gordon

Are you sure you're a Republican?!

Wow. This is all too funny. Borders employees who are
unfit for employment.

I'm going on holiday to LA soon, so I shall make a point of walking into a bookshop and buying 'Unfit for Command' at the top of my British voice!

# 247 Cam

There is no link as of now, I found it on Brit Humes Grapevine page on FOX.

#258 Thom:

Are you sure you're a Republican?!

Uh, Thom, it's "Rethuglican". C'mon now, I know that you're a better speller than that...

;-)

#217 ShanNYC

Strange, isn't it, that you would then turn around and do the exact same thing...take one worker's comments and make it indicative of everyone who works at Border's.

Maybe I missed it, but I do not recall anyone in here saying it was indicitative of EVERYONE'S behavior at Border's

Also, I can assure this is not an isolated incident as others on this thread have provided examples of the book being hidden, or told they were not in stock.

I myself know 3 people who were erroneously told the book was not there, and then found it after poking around in the store or asking the manager. I wonder how many other people had similar experiences.

It is good that this is being discussed, and again, no one in here said that EVERYONE at Borders does this....but by no means is this an isolated viewpoint....

#217 - The first paragraph of the Borders comment sounded reasonable. The comment was three paragraphs, the second two showed his true feelings. Nice try, though. Everybody read it when the page is up again.

#208

You know Dave, Iraq is fubar. But that isn't stopping millions of folks over at CBS Sportsline from writing, reading and discussing this weeks upcoming college and Pro games, not to mention the latest wild card chase in MLB.

Please.

When did Gordon start pretending to be a Republican?

243 Rabid

Good luck & God willing...we'll blog you on the other side.....after we get power back!!

#208-

Yeah, you're a big stupid mean-head.

It is more than one commenter. Bookitup had the "snicker, snicker" quote about telling people it wasn't available when it was. See kps #69 above.

#230 Sean II:

Is that the same "Michael Moore Hates America" that Michael Moore said didn't really exist and was just a trailer and a right wing smear job? Here's hoping it makes it to theatres.

And I'm sure that somebody has mentioned it by now, but the Borders Union site is down.

Uh, Thom, it's "Rethuglican". C'mon now, I know that you're a better speller than that...

I thought you were a "Repuke", Cam. Did you change parties?

#266 zulubaby

It's been several months now, iirc. Stupid probably remembers exactly when, since he was mercilessly beaten.

Hey stupid! When was it you first said you were a Rethuglican (winks at Cam)?

Sean II:

Here is a link to the Seattle P.I. article that was referenced on Grapevine.

I'm heartened that at least it is a "group of residents" and not the actual town in an official capacity agitating for this.

Heh, heh, heh---you'd better believe this thread is gonna disappear, and fast! These guys are gonna want it gone before Borders Management can read it, and fire the lot of them!

And they will be fired if this comes to light! I used to work in a bookstore; I know.

/Of course, after they lose their jobs they can always hit up people, like Gordon, who've urged them to go ahead and break all their company rules, to lend them a few bucks till payday. I'm sure he, and those like him, will oblige, heh, heh, heh. . .

#44 Ploome Hineni

The hand grenade throwing will, I believe, commence sometime in November. It will be triggered either by the re-election of George Bush, in which case all those suffering from BDS Syndrome will be enraged that the election was "Stolen" again, or they will be celebrating the election of Kerry (AARRGH!), and will now feel that now is the time to rid the country of all the Neanderthal, Nascar loving, Overweight Christian White People With Guns.

/Joking, but, seriously---these guys are starting to scare me!

Piss on Borders bookstores! Where are my rocks, bricks, and anything else that can break glass? I enjoy a nice riot every now and then. HEY here's a match on the sidewalk hmmmmm ;-)

#208

I'm sure Dan Rather/60 Minutes II equally got your panties all twisted up by ignoring Iraq and focusing on Bush's incredibly meaningful National Guard service in 1972.

I don’t care if these Neandertals in fancy suits get mad at me,

Dumb-ass... lizards aren't mammals.

//off

Having previously worked at a Borders, this doesn't surprise me. I felt as lonely there as I did being in the Young Republicans in 1972. Looking for Unfit for Command in local bookstores was like Where's Waldo? This is not unique to Borders-I was in Denver a few weeks ago in an independent bookstore and you wouldn't know that there were any books written by conservatives if you only checked out the front of the store. Ended up buying Unfit for Command at Amazon and received it within 5 days.

#237 Luigi

Seeing as how its the Dems who can't stop talking about 1973, has it ever occured to you that maybe its Kerry who doesn't want to talk about Iraq?

Yes.

Recently, Kerry was interviewed by a journalist who asked him EXACTLY what he would have done differently if he was President. He said it wasn't a fair question as he Wasn't President at that time. She said, okay, then if you were made President TODAY, what EXACTLY would you do differently about Iraq? He hemmed and hawed, said a lot of nothing, then ended with, he'd bring it to the UN.

I think its Kerry who doesn't want to talk about Iraq. Frankly, I don't think he can hold all the nuances about that subject in his head.

#189 Crusader wrote:

After posts #94 and #96, Nodrog still isn't banned because............................why?

To ban him would create hypocrisy, and would drag LGF down to the level of those who seek to ban others' freedom of speech, like JF'nK, the other Fascicrats, and the ignorant emplorees of Borders books. Besides, NoDrOg creates an inflamation that keeps the passion burning...not to mention the arse!

OT

Go here to kick the crap out of John Kerry!